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Speaker 1: and appreciate all you guys watch. Appreciate all you guys interacting.

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Speaker 1: cash offer offered by Seminal Tribe of Florida. In Florida,

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Speaker 1: offered by Seminal hard Rock Digital see in all other states.

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Speaker 1: You must be twenty one plus and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee,

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Speaker 1: and Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply. Concerned about

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Speaker 1: gambling in Florida, call one eight three three play wise.

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Speaker 2: In Indiana. If you are someone you know has a

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Speaker 2: gambling problem and wants help, call one eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: nine with it.

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Speaker 1: Gambling problem call one hundred Gambler.

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Speaker 2: Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia.

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Speaker 1: The other big takeaway is the quarterbacks. And I'm not

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Speaker 1: talking the college quarterbacks. I'm talking the NFL quarterbacks. All

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Speaker 1: signs point to a tongue by low A getting cut

440
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Speaker 1: and if they wanted to take the entire hit right

441
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 1: now'd be it close to one hundred million dollars. I

442
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Speaker 1: personally would do that. I would imagine that they split

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Speaker 1: it into two because teams. I thought the Broncos several

444
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,199
Speaker 1: years ago when they cut Russell Wilson should do the

445
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Speaker 1: same thing and then they cut it into two. But

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Speaker 1: I don't think it would be inconceivable. Given that they're

447
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to kind of reset the franchise. Kyler Murray, he's

448
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Speaker 1: gonna be cut as well. No one is trading for

449
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and all scigns point to Malik Willis. Listen.

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Speaker 1: Timing is a huge part of life, right, I mean,

451
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Speaker 1: I knowing these coaches, they move a lot. Like you

452
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Speaker 1: asked them four years ago, try to sell in your

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Speaker 1: house if you got a new job in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one or twenty twenty two. They're like, God, I made

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Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars and I lived in the thing

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Speaker 1: for eighteen months. Well talk to him now, trying to

457
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Speaker 1: sell their house a little harder, interest rates a little higher,

458
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Speaker 1: not as many people lined up at the front door

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Speaker 1: to buy the thing. So timing matters, and Malik Willis

460
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,359
Speaker 1: really benefits right now from being twenty six years old,

461
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: played at a high level organization, proven he has dramatically

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Speaker 1: improved last year. Was thrown into multiple situations, one just

463
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Speaker 1: as a starter on a given week, excelled another thrown

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Speaker 1: in to the fire in the middle or early in

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Speaker 1: a game where he was not the starter, and excelled

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Speaker 1: against the Bears. So he's got a lot of buzz

467
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Speaker 1: and it's not his fault that all the teams are

468
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Speaker 1: gonna be interested in him suck because you got to

469
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Speaker 1: cash in. This league can turn on you in a dime.

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Speaker 1: And to me, Malik Willis, my guess would be like

471
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Speaker 1: three year, seventy five million dollars, like fifty million guaranteed,

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Speaker 1: and there's a chance that he goes to the Cardinals,

473
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Speaker 1: to the Jets, to whoever's one of these bad teams,

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Speaker 1: and it's just it's a terrible situation. I I would

475
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Speaker 1: kind of bet on that being the case, but he

476
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Speaker 1: doesn't have a choice. This is when you change the

477
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Speaker 1: financial outcome of your life, and those are the teams

478
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Speaker 1: wanting to pay you. So you got to you gotta pounce.

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Speaker 1: And he did enough this year that even if that

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Speaker 1: doesn't go well, Milke wasn't playing the league for a

481
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Speaker 1: long long time and he's gonna be really really rich

482
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Speaker 1: because of this contract. But we all kind of agree,

483
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Speaker 1: like I wouldn't sign to a you probably wouldn't sign

484
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Speaker 1: to a who knows if to a lands anywhere. Kyler's

485
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: pretty interesting, right because there is some physical talent there. Now,

486
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Speaker 1: he's battled injuries, he's obviously battled some maturity questions. But

487
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Speaker 1: you know one thing he's really got going against him

488
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: is Ben Johnson talked about this at this press conference.

489
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Speaker 1: I love Tyson badget beajit, but listen, I believe he's

490
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Speaker 1: one of the best thirty two quarterbacks in the league.

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Speaker 1: I think someone is going to trade for Tyson. He's

492
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Speaker 1: under a cheap contract. Even if you got to give

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Speaker 1: a fourth round pick, you would rather have the hope

494
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Speaker 1: of Tyson because, let's face it, I mean, you could

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Speaker 1: argue hope is one of the most powerful things in

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Speaker 1: our lives. What's it feel like when you have no hope?

497
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Speaker 1: What does that usually mean? You're depressed, You're feeling down,

498
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Speaker 1: you feel like crap, what happens even if you don't

499
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Speaker 1: have much going on in life. But it's like, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I got this job interview coming up in a couple weeks,

501
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Speaker 1: or hey, I got this girl I'm taking out on

502
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Speaker 1: Friday night. The power of hope is real, and to me,

503
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Speaker 1: Tyson Bageit allows at least a team to have some

504
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: hope maybe they found a diamond in the rough over

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Speaker 1: Kyler or two. And I also think the comeback of

506
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: Derek Carr dramatically hurts those two guys because he's proven

507
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: to play in the league, a long time, super high

508
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: character guy, been at a ton of different offenses. Now

509
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: Kyler's going to get a spot, but my guess would

510
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Speaker 1: be he's got to be a backup somewhere in last,

511
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Speaker 1: but not least. I saw Florio put this article out

512
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Speaker 1: on Pro Football Talk. In the headline it made it

513
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: was so good it made me click on the article.

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Speaker 1: It said, fear of AI eliminating jobs makes its way

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Speaker 1: to football, And one thing that Florio said was that

516
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Speaker 1: during multiple meetings away from the cameras and microphones, folks

517
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Speaker 1: currently employed by franchises questioned whether and to what extent

518
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Speaker 1: AI will supplant positions currently held by humans. He must

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Speaker 1: have been talking to people that I wasn't talking about,

520
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Speaker 1: because I didn't hear AI come up one time. But

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Speaker 1: I do think brings up a couple good points, he said.

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Speaker 1: He said, we're starting with the scouts. Many of the

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Speaker 1: tasks currently performed by a team's staff of scouts can

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Speaker 1: be performed by AI. As one GM explained it, the

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Speaker 1: reports generated by AI, based on the various data fed

526
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Speaker 1: into the program were early, thorough, inaccurate. I'm gonna sound

527
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Speaker 1: like a homer because these are my people. This is

528
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Speaker 1: that stepping stone led me to this in the life

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Speaker 1: that I have now, which I feel very fortunate to have.

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Speaker 1: Is while I won't disagree that there is going to

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Speaker 1: be some sort of program that is going to be

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Speaker 1: able to take measureables and probably even the film and

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Speaker 1: generate some tape, talk to any of these scouts their

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Speaker 1: job beside maybe like six seventh round picks, the least

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Speaker 1: important part of it is the valuation part, especially as

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Speaker 1: the area scouts. Maybe for pro scouts you'd be in

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Speaker 1: some trouble. You know. The number one job of the

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Speaker 1: area scouts is to get all the information that is

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Speaker 1: not available find out about his character. Well, guess what

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00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 1: that is not public information? When you have guys in

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Speaker 1: this draft, which like every draft, are major question marks

542
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: and have issues, whether it because of the law, whether

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Speaker 1: it be because of maturity issues inside the facility, whatever

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00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: it may be, you know what happens the teams don't

545
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 1: just give that stuff out. You get that information based

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Speaker 1: on relationships, based on other human beings. I saw a

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Speaker 1: great tweet this weekend basically like I'm shorting all this

548
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 1: AI and algo stuff because anytime you go somewhere with family,

549
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Speaker 1: with friends, and interact with humans, how good do you

550
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: feel when you sit and live in the algo? How

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Speaker 1: good do you feel? I even saw Ray Lewis called

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Speaker 1: social media the new drugs. I've said this forever, like,

553
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: remember when all to talk about alcohol, young people don't

554
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: drink alcohol. Remember the Thunder won the NBA Championship and

555
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: like half the team had never tried a beer. One

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Speaker 1: takeaway I have from the combine is I saw a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys twenty thirty years old, some people that

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Speaker 1: I had taken calls from and given advice to that

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Speaker 1: are now scouts and playoff teams. Is really cool to

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00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: see all having details, all having beers, enjoying themselves. Didn't

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Speaker 1: see any algos, didn't see any AI humans interacting with

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Speaker 1: humans that bring and fill your cup. I promise you,

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Speaker 1: if you need a lift in life, go interact with

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Speaker 1: other humans. Cause I did more than I typically do

565
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Speaker 1: at the combine. I felt great despite having six hours

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Speaker 1: of sleep. That shit works. Get yourself into the sun,

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Speaker 1: talk to other people. And the thing with AI when

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Speaker 1: it comes to the scouts getting the information on the people.

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Speaker 1: Cause if it was just player drafting would be easy.

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00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: Why do most of these guys in the NFL fail

571
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: because the person, because the wiring, because the focus. Shit,

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Speaker 1: you can't measure. One of the guys who's one of

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00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 1: my best buddies in the league, who's a coach assistant coach,

574
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: we went out and I was just picking his brain

575
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: because he's so good with players, and he was just

576
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 1: telling me the different players he was interviewing, and he's like,

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00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: out on this guy, out on this guy. He's like,

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00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: one thing I've learned is like, this is a serious

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00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 1: ass league and guys that excel in this league are

580
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: serious ass people. So when now I get it, you're

581
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 1: in the draft class, you're still young and immature, but

582
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: like dilly dagger, dilly dallying and being like, well figure

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00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: it out, like I'm a like that doesn't work in

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00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: the league. It is a league full of bad motherfuckers

585
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: who are very very serious about their craft. And you

586
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: can you can luck into a year, but you can't

587
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: have a high end career without being all your chips

588
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: in the middle of the table. The media has fought

589
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: this forever. They love the word balance. You need to

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00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,480
Speaker 1: be balanced. Balance doesn't fucking exist. There is The way

591
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: I lead my life is different than the way you

592
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: lead your life, and there is no right or wrong.

593
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: But for most of us that you know, whatever you know,

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00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 1: certain jobs you have a little less balance with. Maybe

595
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: your family comes with the territory. Ask NFL coaches, ask

596
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: Wall Street bankers. It's part of the gig. And I

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00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 1: just think when you look at what people are asking

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00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: from the scouts, a lot of people can I could

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00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: teach anyone listening to this to evaluate some players. Now,

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00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: some of you might be better than others, but I

601
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: can't teach you all to go into programs where you

602
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: need to develop long standing relationships to find out, well, actually,

603
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: this guy was involved in a car accident where someone

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00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: was left paralyzed. But because we live in this small

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00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: town and control, it's never gotten out. No one knows

606
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: about it. Do you think the computer program can do that?

607
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: Because I'm not sure they can. Now here's where I

608
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: think I'd be a little nervous and listen. Coaches make

609
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: more than scouts, so if you are a quality control coach,

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Speaker 1: that means you're the lowest guy in the total pole.

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Speaker 1: For example, when I worked with the Eagles my first year,

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00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Doug Peterson was our quality control coach. My second year,

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00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: Matt Naggi was the quality control coach. A couple of

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00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: years before I got there, Sean McDermott had been the

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Speaker 1: quality control coach. If you become a quality control coach

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Speaker 1: for the right person, and you are a good coach,

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00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 1: you are a lock to have a great career. Kyle

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Speaker 1: Shanahan and Sean McVay started being quality control coaches for

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Speaker 1: John Gruden. Like if you get with the right guy,

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Speaker 1: it propels your career. So here's what Florio wrote. For

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Speaker 1: coaching staffs, the quality control position is typically held by

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Speaker 1: a lower level employee whose job it is to compile

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Speaker 1: information and clips requested by the head coach or typically

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Speaker 1: the coordinators. Typically these are labor intensive exercises, requiring more

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00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: elbow grease than brain power, and it would be very

626
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: easy to develop a tool to pull the same kind

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Speaker 1: of information together without having a quality control assistant in

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Speaker 1: place to perform that work. I think I saw this

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Speaker 1: special on the ramps. And typically when you get the

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Speaker 1: lowest position, the quality control position or the offensive assistant

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Speaker 1: for Sean McVay, your job is to draw all the place,

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Speaker 1: and on Monday and Tuesday you're working like twenty hour

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Speaker 1: days drawing the place. I don't disagree with this because

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00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: these are positions now that pay one hundred and fifty

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Speaker 1: two hundred grant and you're basically just drawing stuff into

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00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: a computer program where you're not coaching a position, you're

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00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: not coaching a unit. You're on the field, but you're

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00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: not doing anything. So I agree here the quality control

639
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: position would be in major trouble if you can develop

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Speaker 1: a program that you can just say what you need

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Speaker 1: When it's not public information? And it actually makes the

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Speaker 1: A couple other highlights from Mike Mike Combine. For those

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Speaker 1: of you longtime listeners, remember when Brandon Staley was the

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Speaker 1: head coach of the Chargers. I used to make fun

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00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: of his coaching a lot and kind of make fun

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Speaker 1: of the person. I thought he was a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a a little bit of a politician, not my

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Speaker 1: type guy. Not my type guy. But I don't know

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Speaker 1: from a character standpoint, it'd be some bad guy. What

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Speaker 1: I I've never tried to be too personal. Besides like,

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Speaker 1: I'm out on this guy, and the Chargers were too

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Speaker 1: that they were out on him. They fired him. Well,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday night, I went to dinner with Jackson and we

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Speaker 1: were having We had a bunch of beers and cocktails

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Speaker 1: and ate some dinner, and then we were both gonna

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Speaker 1: you know that we shut down the restaurant bar at

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Speaker 1: about ten o'clock and we were staying at different hotels.

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Speaker 1: I changed my hotel last minute, so he was walking home.

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Speaker 1: I was walking home and as I'm walking home, I

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Speaker 1: have to go through the JW. Marriott where all the

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Speaker 1: action is happening. So as I'm walking home and I

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Speaker 1: was I had a plane flight early at six am

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Speaker 1: the next day out. I was honestly planning on just

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Speaker 1: going home to bed. But you know, you've had four

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Speaker 1: or five vodcasts. You know you're feeling pretty good. You're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: let's just do one round. So I do a round.

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Speaker 1: See some people I know start talking. I get very

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Speaker 1: excited with some of the guys that young guys that

711
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: I've known are having a lot of success and just

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00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: talking to some different young scouts. One guy came up

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Speaker 1: to me, is with a really good team now, is

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Speaker 1: really cool. But I text a good buddy. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you going out tonight. He's like, yeah, I'll be at

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Speaker 1: the JW in five minutes. So I waited. So I

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Speaker 1: spent the night with him, and then about an hour

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Speaker 1: in he's like, Hey, we're going to this other place.

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Speaker 1: So I'm like, this is probably not the best idea.

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Speaker 1: But I go to the front of the hotel. I'm like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you guys, have a water. They hand me a bottle

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Speaker 1: of water. I'm like, I just maybe I have a

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00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 1: course light or something at the bar, but I'm just

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00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 1: gonna go. And so we're there. You can barely move.

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Speaker 1: And I don't even think I've ever beside a strip club.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever been to a club in

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Speaker 1: my life. I'm not a club guy. Now this is

728
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Speaker 1: a steakhouse, but it essentially turns into a club during

729
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 1: the combine. You can't move. It's one of those. But

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Speaker 1: it's not big at least from what I see online,

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Speaker 1: of like a club. It's a restaurant. So now they

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Speaker 1: take out all the table so it's just shoulder to shoulder.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys are NFL coaches or

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Speaker 1: you know, NFL people. It's bigger people, so you can't

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Speaker 1: fucking move an inch, so you're just trying to make

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Speaker 1: your way or see, oh, there's that guy. There's that guy.

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Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I turn around and my guy goes,

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Speaker 1: I want to introduce you to my buddy middle Cough.

739
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: He's a massive podcaster, and I lock eyes and at

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Speaker 1: first I didn't recognize him because Brandon Staley is now bold.

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00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: But Brandon looks at me, I look at him. It

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00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 1: was almost like we both knew you're in these weird situations.

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00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: You just kind of say, hey, nice to meet you.

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Speaker 1: But it was and it's one of those I have

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Speaker 1: said forever you feel a little fraudulent. Now, if you

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00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: would have asked, I would have said, but it wasn't

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Speaker 1: really the point. You can't even hear anyone talk. But

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm being introduced in the middle

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Speaker 1: of this bar club to Brandon Staley, who is now

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Speaker 1: completely bald. And one thing I heard is obviously in

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Speaker 1: New Orleans he's a good defensive coach did a good

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Speaker 1: job for them. They got If they get Jeremiah Love

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Speaker 1: in the in the draft, they would be a sleeper

754
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Speaker 1: playoff team next year the New Orleans Saints. They got

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Speaker 1: a lot going for But I met Brandon Staley and

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, this is kind of awkward. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: Other two guys I met, which probably not my finest hour.

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00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: I'd had a few too many. One Anthony Weaver, who

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Speaker 1: is the Ravens defensive coordinator, who was the Dolphins defensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator last year, who was interviewed for head coaching jobs.

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Speaker 1: I as I told him because I watched the Ravens

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Speaker 1: press conference. I'm like, bro, you're a lot now he didn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean he is. He's a massive former NFL defensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: He's huge, he's good looking, he's well spoken. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: you're the total package, bro' you're gonna be you feel

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00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: like a lock to be a head coach and just

767
00:41:17,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: a really impressive guy. And Joe Brady was the other

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Speaker 1: guy who has a, you know, a young millennial feel.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's got the chain. He just kind of

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Speaker 1: looks cool. He just he doesn't feel like most of

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Speaker 1: the other coaches. I would say, like when you see

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Speaker 1: John Harbaugh or Mike Vrabel or just most of these guys.

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Speaker 1: I met Mike McDonald, who the guy I was out

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Speaker 1: with Wednesday night, worked with him and goes Mike because

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Speaker 1: I was like, hey, can you introduce me to Mike?

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Speaker 1: So he's like, hey, hey, Mike was walking into the

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Speaker 1: hotel room as we were leaving, and he introduces me

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Speaker 1: to Mike. And Mike's you know, is unassuming and under

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Speaker 1: the radar. I mean, he'd be the last if you

780
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Speaker 1: didn't know football and you said, which guys do you

781
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: think won the Super Bowl? It would be all these

782
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Speaker 1: guys puffing their chest out walking around the JW. Marriott

783
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 1: that are like dB coaches on the Jets. You know,

784
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Speaker 1: I'm not like, whoever the dB coaches on the Jets.

785
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that guy specifically. I'm just saying random guys,

786
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: big egos, like who the fuck are you? Mike McDonald

787
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Speaker 1: walked in, He's like, oh uh me, I forget the

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Speaker 1: guy's name. He's like, meet James. We went to high

789
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: school together and they were just like out of dinner.

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00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, you, guys, you and John Snyder got to

791
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: be the most low key Super Bowl champs in the

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Speaker 1: history of the league. I mean easily the history of

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Speaker 1: the league. They just the way they carry themselves, The

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Speaker 1: way they act, how nice they are to people, very

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Speaker 1: very impressive. And the way it was described to me,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, why is he so impressive? We know how

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Speaker 1: good he is as a defensive coach right as like

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Speaker 1: a schemer, but the way it was described to me,

799
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,359
Speaker 1: he's like, you don't understand when he went with Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh to the Michigan Wolverines. Well, when he got rehired

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00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: by the Ravens, they named him the defensive coordinator. They

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00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 1: had Anthony Weaver on the staff, They had Zach Orr

803
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: on the staff, who was the defensive coordinator last year.

804
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 1: They had all these established coaches on the staff that

805
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: he basically left as an assistant, went with John's brother

806
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 1: Jim to be a coordinator for one year, and then

807
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: just jumped above when he got rehired. And he's like,

808
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: how impressive he was dealing with those guys. He's like,

809
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: it was a seamless transition and right when that happened,

810
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: in the respect those guys had for him and the

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Speaker 1: way he handled kind of a delicate situation because we're

812
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: all human beings. If you're somewhere and you get passed

813
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: over for a gig, especially one that pays as much

814
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: as that and as prestigious as that the defensive coordinator

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00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 1: for the Ravens, there could be a lot of animosity,

816
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: a lot of hostility. Last time I checked, Zach Orr

817
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Speaker 1: and Anthony Weaver played in the league. Mike McDonald didn't

818
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: play in college, and he's like, it didn't even phase

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Speaker 1: any of them. And you look at Anthony Weaver, You're

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00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,759
Speaker 1: like fuck. I mean that guy was taking orders from

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Speaker 1: Mike McDonald's like, yeah, he did, no problem, So hey

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00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,959
Speaker 1: left that combine, Like I'll buy more Mike McDonald's stock.

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Speaker 1: Just a high level, easygoing cat. Obviously, he's good with

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Speaker 1: the players, great with the coaches, which is an underrated

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00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,600
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Speaker 1: the other coaches. Because I've said it forever. The money

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Speaker 1: these guys make is enormous. Like if you're a position

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Speaker 1: coach and you're making half a million dollars, you're in

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Speaker 1: the low end. I mean I heard stories of offensive line

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Speaker 1: coaches making two three million dollars getting mad and other

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00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: coaches on their staff not showing up to meetings. It's

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00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: just like egos with the assistant coaches is as big

833
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: as the players, which is ironic because they constantly preach

834
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Speaker 1: to the players like the team, the team, be a

835
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Speaker 1: good teammate, be all in. It's like, well, you guys, aren't.

836
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: You guys are backstabbing everyone trying to make it so.

837
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: The NFL is a crazy place. It's like it's like

838
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: a millionaire high school with the gossip, you know, and

839
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,040
Speaker 1: these guys are public, famous people. It's like a Bravo show.

840
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: Each UFC meets like Wall Street. It's just a weird combination.

841
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: It's hard to even describe. But when you're there, it's like,

842
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen anything like it. And

843
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: when these guys go to the combine, they really just

844
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: let loose. So one piece of advice if you ever

845
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,840
Speaker 1: want to break into football, there was not an easier

846
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 1: way to meet people that you would basically have a

847
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: very difficult time ever getting around than just going to

848
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 1: Indianapolis for several days and whether you drink or not,

849
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: just going out at night and just being social. Just

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Speaker 1: going out at night and being social. I mean there

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Speaker 1: were times where I had friends I was waiting on

852
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Speaker 1: that were interviewing people and I was kind of in between,

853
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: like I didn't really have anywhere to go. I'd already

854
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: eaten dinner. Jackson was getting up early the next day,

855
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: so he was already in bed. I'm like, I'm only

856
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: here for a couple of Jacksons, say, the whole week.

857
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: So I was like, I was like, I just got it.

858
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: I started rolling around by myself. Shit, I would never

859
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Speaker 1: do now ever, It honestly kind of brings you back

860
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Speaker 1: to like when you were like young and hungry, and

861
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Speaker 1: I'm forty years old. That's stuff I would have done

862
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Speaker 1: when I was like twenty four. I can't even imagine,

863
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: but it kind of makes you feel good. You feel accomplished.

864
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Speaker 1: When he left, like I started talking to people that

865
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 1: I talked to more people in two days than I

866
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,400
Speaker 1: probably have in six months. Beside you people, I have

867
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 1: more people listening to me, but I don't actually get

868
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: to interact with most of you guys. So combine man

869
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley. He would have been pretty low in my

870
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: bingo card of people not only would run into but

871
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: then have an interaction with uh. And I do think

872
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:26,439
Speaker 1: he's part of a team. Is gonna be really good.

873
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Speaker 1: The volume