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Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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Speaker 2: Arms Strong and Jetty, I know he Armstrong and Yetty.

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Speaker 3: The priority is always going to be public safety, trust

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Speaker 3: in national security. If that's where the problem with that

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Speaker 3: is the sanctuary cities. We can't get our hands on

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Speaker 3: these people in the jail, where one agent can arrest

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Speaker 3: one bad guy in jail. The recent to the communities,

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Speaker 3: and that's why we're flooding the sanctuary cities zones right now.

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Speaker 3: We got to sent agents to the neighborhood. We got

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Speaker 3: sent the whole team for offer safety reasons. So we're

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Speaker 3: going to increase agents in these cities. We're also going

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Speaker 3: to increase worksite enforcement in these cities because we can't

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Speaker 3: arrest them.

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Speaker 2: In the jail.

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Speaker 3: Then we got a golode community and the work site

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Speaker 3: to find these people. So that's what we're going to do.

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Speaker 1: I really like Tom Holman there on the lead with

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Speaker 1: Jake Oh my god, he was senile Tapper, who is

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Speaker 1: talking about a number of immigration topics and really made

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Speaker 1: some major news that I'm not seeing covered very much.

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Speaker 1: A quick aside to the team, and I'm sorry I

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Speaker 1: didn't think of this a few minutes ago. We had

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Speaker 1: some audio a couple of days ago from a special

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Speaker 1: report with Brett baer In one of the correspondents talking

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Speaker 1: about the drop in the numbers at the border. Can

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Speaker 1: we grab that from a last day or two? I

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Speaker 1: can't remember what it was, but so anyway, Tom Holman's

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Speaker 1: on there on CNN and he started with quite a

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Speaker 1: bombshell and that was part of it there. But the

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Speaker 1: borders are revealed that the Trump administration is preparing a

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Speaker 1: federal deportation crackdown unlike anything the country has ever seen.

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Speaker 2: Quote, We're going to ramp up.

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Speaker 1: The number of teams in the interior of the United States.

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Speaker 1: We're building that team now. He explained that multiple agencies

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Speaker 1: has already been mobilized ICE, which includes over fourteen thousand officers,

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Speaker 1: as preparing to redeploy personnel for interior enforcement.

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Speaker 2: Not just ICE.

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Speaker 1: President Trump has all the government on this, he said,

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Speaker 1: pointing the coordination with the ATF, the DEA, the US Marshals,

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Speaker 1: the DOJ, and even the State Department. This isn't piecemeal,

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Speaker 1: it's a full scale federal operation and it's just getting started. Wow,

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Speaker 1: that's big stuff. Then Jake Tapper brings up I hear

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Speaker 1: you're thinking of deporting people of Libya, and Holman said,

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Speaker 1: I don't know specifics about Libya, but we're talking to

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Speaker 1: multiple countries to accept illegal aliens.

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Speaker 2: If their own country won't take them. Well, here's the quote.

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Speaker 1: If their home countries don't accept them, we're looking for

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Speaker 1: a third safe country to repatriate them.

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Speaker 2: But essentially they ain't staying here.

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Speaker 4: We got that clip from the other day. If you

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Speaker 4: want to throw that in as a booster here, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: why don't we uh exam, Yeah, we'll do that after this. Okay,

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Speaker 4: So anyway the conversation. Then Jake, trying to be provocative,

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Speaker 4: confronts Holman with the recent tough talk from ass kicking

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Speaker 4: Representative AOC.

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Speaker 5: If anyone's breaking the law in this situation, it's not

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Speaker 5: members of Congress, it's the Department of Homeland Security. It's

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Speaker 5: people like Tom Homan and Secretary Christy. No, you lay

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Speaker 5: a finger on someone on Representative Bonnie Watson Coleman, on

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Speaker 5: Representative or any of the representatives that were there, you

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Speaker 5: lay a finger on them, we are going to have

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Speaker 5: a problem.

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Speaker 2: What's your response mister Hammond.

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Speaker 3: First of all, you can't intimidate me. Come on, give

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Speaker 3: me a break.

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Speaker 2: You know I was enforcing him.

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Speaker 3: I was wearing a green uniform borbitual agent for five

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Speaker 3: years before she was even born. I had more than

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Speaker 3: three decades enforcing immigration law before she became a member

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Speaker 3: of Congress. I worked for six presidents. I've seen policy.

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Speaker 3: I've seen hundreds of policies. Some work, some didn't. But

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Speaker 3: you can't deny the success of the Trump administration when

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Speaker 3: it comes to border security again, the most secure board.

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Speaker 2: In history of this nation.

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Speaker 3: And I said from day one, and she knows this,

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Speaker 3: you can not support ICE, Shame on you. You can

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Speaker 3: support sant shore cities, shame on you. But you can't

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Speaker 3: cross the line. You can't knowingly impede at ICE law

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Speaker 3: enforcement officers. That is a felony. You can't harbor and conceal.

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Speaker 3: Knowingly harbor and conceal it will go alien from ICE.

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Speaker 3: That is a felony. And you certainly can't commit criminal trespass.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: And as far as New York her district, this administration

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Speaker 3: has done more to protect her districts than she has

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Speaker 3: the number of criminal islands we took off the streets

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Speaker 3: to New York made her community much safer. She ought

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Speaker 3: to be thanking the members of this administration, the men

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Speaker 3: and women of ICE who protect this country make her

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Speaker 3: It's just ridiculous. She alt to love her community more

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Speaker 3: than she hates Trump, because we're doing a lot to

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Speaker 4: I am, I would guess at public policy wise, he's

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Speaker 4: on the right side of this, even in New York.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, if Disney had congresswomen instead of princesses, AOC would

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Speaker 1: be a Disney Well Congress princess. She was referring specifically

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Speaker 1: to several lefty Democrats who are desperately trying to rebrand

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Speaker 1: themselves or have a brand at all, showing up to

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Speaker 1: impede ICE and chanting and demonstrating, and they jostled some

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Speaker 1: cops and ICE officers and got jostled back. And so

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Speaker 1: AOC is trying to whip up some narrative where indeed

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Speaker 1: it's the brutees of ICE, the fascists of ICE, that

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Speaker 1: are trying to assault brave left wing representatives, and we

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Speaker 1: won't have it. You're going to have a problem, mister

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Speaker 1: and Tom Holman says, yeah, give me a break. So

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Speaker 1: Holman's point there, other than shut up AOC, was wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, We've accomplished great things.

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Speaker 2: How great? Listen to this.

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Speaker 6: We are getting a first look of the Southern border

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Speaker 6: immigration numbers for April. Southern border in the US, the

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Speaker 6: government reporting a ninety three percent drop in apprehensions from

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Speaker 6: nearly one hundred twenty nine thousand a year ago to

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Speaker 6: just under eighty four hundred last month. Lasts average forty

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Speaker 6: three hundred per day this year's two hundred and seventy

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Speaker 6: nine last year. Sixty eight thousand illegal immigrants released into

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Speaker 6: the US during April this year five Also, drug seizures

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Speaker 6: were up fifteen percent over March. Seven hundred and fifty

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Speaker 6: eight pounds of fentanyl seas in March, about one hundred

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Speaker 6: and seventy two million lethal doses.

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Speaker 4: Well, so hardly actually anybody's actually getting across. But it's

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Speaker 4: amazing to me that there's still several hundred people trying

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Speaker 2: They must not read the paper, right I guess not.

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Speaker 1: Or the coyotes said hey, we've got a contract, let's

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Speaker 1: give it a try. I want to repeat a couple

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Speaker 1: of those numbers, it's a ninety three percent decrease year

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Speaker 1: over year. That is fantastic. The apprehensions numbers really what

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Speaker 1: they reflect is the number of people trying, and that's

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Speaker 1: declined from one hundred and twenty nine thousand to eight thousand.

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Speaker 1: But this is this is the number that ought to

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Speaker 1: be greeted with parades in the wave of flags released

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Speaker 1: into the country last April under Biden, sixty eight thousand

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Speaker 1: human beings with no right to be in the country,

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Speaker 1: sixty eight thousand this April five five, not five thousand five,

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Speaker 1: like the starting lineup for the New York Knicks.

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Speaker 2: Five humans who were surely.

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Speaker 1: Vetted, because you can look at five people and say, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: they've got a right to be here.

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Speaker 4: Number of fingers on your right hand is a non

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Speaker 4: inbred human.

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Speaker 1: As a non railroad worker, that's correct, non shop teacher.

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Speaker 4: If you will, Oh, I was going with extra fingers,

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Speaker 4: you were going with fewer fingers.

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Speaker 2: Right, Well, either way worthy of discussion.

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Speaker 1: Right So, anyway, I tell you what is I always

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Speaker 1: say when I criticized Trump, it's you know, it's because

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Speaker 1: it's what I think is legit.

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Speaker 2: But it's also the good stuff is so good. Please

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Speaker 2: don't screw it up.

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Speaker 1: Please don't open the door for Democrats to rush in

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Speaker 1: and take back the reins of power and trag us

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Speaker 1: back to the Biden years in its policies.

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Speaker 4: Oh so, the Supreme Court's hearing arguments as we speak

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Speaker 4: on the whole ken Trump and birthright citizenship on his own.

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Speaker 4: But what seems to be coming up as like the

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Speaker 4: crucial I don't know if it's the crucial issue, but

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Speaker 4: a crucial issue is whether or not a single judge

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Speaker 4: can hold up stuff a president does around the country.

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Speaker 2: I hope they finally figured this out.

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Speaker 4: As Axios was just reporting, there are six hundred federal judges?

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Speaker 2: Are there not really that many? Yeah? Wow? Six hundred

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Speaker 2: federal judges?

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Speaker 4: And the question is being asked, do we want a

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Speaker 4: system where one of these people could say, nahe, I

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Speaker 4: don't think that the president's doing is okay and stop

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Speaker 4: it all the time, because it does in reality, gumma,

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Speaker 4: the work so much that you practically the end result

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Speaker 2: The ability to issue executive orders. Right. It almost takes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the window dressing is the birthright citizenship thing, and

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Speaker 1: it's an important question and a really really interesting one,

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Speaker 1: but it's one I think we can all understand and

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the underlying question, because this is a two

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Speaker 4: Yeah, about nation wide in junctions, and that's huge. I'll

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Speaker 4: read what CNS has up there right now, Supreme Court.

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Speaker 4: Here's arguments on whether lower courts have authority to block

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Speaker 4: orders from the president.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we do have to figure that out.

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Speaker 1: And Preme Court justices have across the ideological spectrum have

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Speaker 1: said they are troubled by at least some nationwide injunctions

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we would need like Tim or one of our

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Speaker 4: I'll bet it is on the rise. So I'll bet

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Speaker 4: back in the day you were really hesitant to jump

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Speaker 4: in and say no, I'm going to stop this. And

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Speaker 4: now people are much more comfortable holding up the whole

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: I think Trump supporters would say, yeah, the woke courts

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Speaker 1: The response from the courts would be well, Trump is lawless.

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Speaker 1: So the counter to that claim would be shut up

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Speaker 1: your lefty jackass.

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Speaker 4: So I can tell you a little of the stuff

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Speaker 4: So I'm just looking at Jonathan Turley's Twitter feed and

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Speaker 2: He said, Wow.

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Speaker 4: Justice Roberts just jumped in and asked, Soda Moyer, can

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Speaker 4: I think, to make it like a yes or no.

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Speaker 4: Can individual federal judges hold up a president's order all

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Speaker 4: across the country sometimes they probably should, but not all

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Speaker 4: So right, there's so.

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Speaker 1: Can we come up with a rule, because I was

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Speaker 4: Hey, Los Angeles in San Francisco, where we are both

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Speaker 2: We'll get to that later this hour. Stay here. Did

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Speaker 4: It was Oh my god, I'm gonna when I get

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Speaker 4: the little review thing they always send you after a delivery.

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Speaker 4: They WNBA tips off tonight for a new season. There's

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Speaker 1: My life will not change in iota. So I was

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Speaker 4: If it's popular and lots of people watch, advertisers want

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Speaker 1: Well? And if your average ticket price is one hundred

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Speaker 4: Anyway, I heard the number on NPR and I didn't

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Speaker 4: which is a lot of money, but it's not the

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Speaker 2: It's utterly irrelevant to the question, right.

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Speaker 4: And why would I just give this WNBA player another

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Speaker 4: what's what's the reasoning here?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's non reasoning, it's emotional reasoning. We talked

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Speaker 1: the WNBA players get paid disproportionately too much.

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Speaker 4: The WNBA is being subsidized by the NBA to a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's it's a good thing that that,

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Speaker 1: Sports wise, I don't mind it. The NBA subsidizes the

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Speaker 4: But if the WNBA was completely on its own, it

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Speaker 2: A long time ago. It couldn't stay open on the

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Speaker 1: It would just be, you know, a very low profile,

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Speaker 4: Caitlyn Clark against that Reese girl tonight. They did a

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Speaker 4: good job scheduling that for Night one for people who

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Speaker 4: like that sort of thing.

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Speaker 2: Because those are the biggest games last year.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's smart. Yeah, but the idea that this is

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Speaker 1: grow up? Would you please grow up?

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Speaker 2: Dumb?

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Speaker 4: Is the California bullet train and no matter where you live,

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Speaker 4: some of your tax pay your money has probably already

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Speaker 8: More on that on the way Marstrong and Getty.

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Speaker 9: The jurors were able to see still images of these

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Speaker 9: going through the binder that was set out before her

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Speaker 9: looked quickly and looked away. Another one, Drew notes it

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Speaker 2: Of her fear. I'd like to read those notes. Here

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Speaker 2: we go with what happened yesterday. There's some interesting stuff

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Speaker 10: And then there were, as you noted, these bombshell emissions

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Speaker 10: did He actually in twenty eighteen forced his way into

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Speaker 10: She even testified about him, you know, threatening to blow

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Speaker 10: up rapper Kid Cutty's part to learn that she started

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Speaker 10: for Kid Cutty later confirms The New York Times that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so she breaks up with did He starts bringing

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Speaker 4: up his car And the next day the guy's.

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Speaker 2: Car pulls up. That's a coincidence.

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Speaker 4: She breaks up with him out of fear, as you

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Speaker 4: might do. That was pretty interesting, And then we learned yesterday.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: If the question is, how long can you have an

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Speaker 1: you're a big, rich star, A long.

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Speaker 2: Damn time is the answer? Apparently?

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Speaker 4: Apparently, yeah, especially if you're willing to pay him a

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Speaker 4: with a bunch of this stuff years ago.

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Speaker 2: And it was revealed yesterday that he paid.

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Speaker 4: Her twenty million dollars to keep quiet, and she did

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Speaker 2: Whoo.

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Speaker 4: Anyway, here's some of the stuff from the day that

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Speaker 4: First of all, this video of people waiting in line

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Speaker 2: Let them vote, please, What the hell?

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Speaker 4: He's got a bunch of family members, all kinds of

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Speaker 2: I like this from The New York Post.

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Speaker 4: Diddy's mother, Janiscomb's eighty four arrived and, as the New

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Speaker 4: York Post said, she appears to be wearing a new

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Speaker 4: wig from other days she's been at the trial.

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Speaker 2: You thank you for that, Just stop and thank you

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Speaker 4: So Diddy's ex girlfriend, who is the key witness to

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Speaker 4: Alex Fine in the courtroom looking stoically as his wife

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Speaker 4: describes how she fell in love with Sean Ditty Combs

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Speaker 2: That would be a tough situation.

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Speaker 4: Good for him for being there and supporting his wife

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Speaker 4: that I'm sure he loves, and she's pregnant and all

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Speaker 4: that sort of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But man, listening to these would not be a.

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Speaker 4: Pleasant especially as today the cross examination is going on

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Speaker 4: in there getting into Cassie Ventura, that's the former girlfriend's

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Speaker 4: text messages that she had sent to Diddy. The jury

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Speaker 4: allegedly sent to Sean Ditty saying that she was excited

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Speaker 4: to partake in freak offs. Including one that said I'm

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Speaker 4: always ready to freak off lol. She wrote to Combs

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Speaker 4: back in August of two thousand and nine, roughly two

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Speaker 4: then decided through text to hold one of their marathon

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Speaker 2: Night that next week. She works for me too.

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Speaker 4: She says, I'm already I'm always ready for a freak

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Speaker 2: I'm down now.

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Speaker 4: No, but that is even if you don't get into

444
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Speaker 4: the violence and some of the other disgusting stuff we've

445
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Speaker 4: heard only weeks.

446
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Speaker 2: They had a outside of.

447
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Speaker 4: Standard sexual relationship going fairly early, we would see. Not

448
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 4: that that means anything legally speaking, but the jurors also

449
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:54,479
Speaker 4: heard more explicit messages in which venturers seem to express

450
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Speaker 4: excitement about taking part in the twisted freak offs and

451
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Speaker 4: all the things that she has done in his willing

452
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Speaker 4: to do. At that point, after they were reading these

453
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Speaker 4: texts out loud, Ventura asked for a break, grabbed her

454
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Speaker 4: eight month pregnant belly with both hands, and was given

455
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Speaker 4: a break. I'm surprised this. I did not expect that

456
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Speaker 4: the media is holding back on the lurid details. I

457
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Speaker 4: thought all those would come out, we would all be

458
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Speaker 4: reading them, they'd be everywhere.

459
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Speaker 2: But they're not.

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Speaker 4: I mean even the New York Post doesn't have what

461
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Speaker 4: these explicit texts were that they read out loud in

462
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Speaker 4: the courtroom. Are you happy about this level of restraint

463
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Speaker 4: or I'm just surprised. I've got to believe they're out

464
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Speaker 4: there somewhere. Well, if the New York Post doesn't have them,

465
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Speaker 4: and that's the that's their ground, isn't it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you'd think they'd at least give you cleaned

467
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Speaker 1: up versions of it. I don't necessarily need it, but yeah,

468
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Speaker 1: they're they're gonna be out there.

469
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you talk a lot about jurors and

471
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Speaker 4: the way they look at things. I mean, if some

472
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,920
Speaker 4: fifty two year old married woman who's raised two kids,

473
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,440
Speaker 4: here's this young woman describing all the things she has

474
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Speaker 4: done and is willing to do, that might change her

475
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Speaker 4: view of the whole completely sympathetic feelings she had previously.

476
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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, well, the jury, the jur ors are the

477
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 1: sole arbiters of whether someone's telling the truth or not.

478
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Speaker 1: They decide that, and often part of the jury instructions is,

479
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: if you found this person lied about one thing, you

480
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Speaker 1: can assume they're lying.

481
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Speaker 2: About everything if you'd like.

482
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Speaker 1: And I can absolutely picture, because not every juror looks

483
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Speaker 1: at the evidence rationally. I've seen personal prejudice and stupidity

484
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Speaker 1: and just weird beliefs get.

485
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Speaker 2: In the way.

486
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Speaker 1: But yeah, to your point, that galley you described might

487
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Speaker 1: think this chick is a crazy ho. I'm not listening

488
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Speaker 1: to anything she says.

489
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Speaker 2: And that's it.

490
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Speaker 4: I hope that doesn't happen. But Katie, any comments on

491
00:24:59,119 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 4: this a woman's person.

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Speaker 8: I'm reading through the texts that they're coming through. I'm

493
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Speaker 8: just thinking of how young she was, Oh yeah, when

494
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Speaker 8: all of this was being sent, and she's dating this

495
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Speaker 8: guy that she has an element of fear involved with.

496
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Speaker 2: Of course she's.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, at first, awe and respect for to that point. Yeah,

498
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 4: when she just first, I mean, so Diddy is her

499
00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 4: manager and she's you know, a singing star, whether or

500
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Speaker 4: not he actually believed in her talent or not or

501
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: just thought she was hot as a different question, of course,

502
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Speaker 4: But Cassie told the jury that did he brought Britney

503
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Speaker 4: Spears to her twenty first birthday party.

504
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Speaker 2: This is before they ever started dating.

505
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Speaker 4: That's where did he made his first move on her

506
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Speaker 4: and kissed her for the first time.

507
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Speaker 2: But so to impress this.

508
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Speaker 4: Hot young girl that he's managing, he shows up to

509
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Speaker 4: her twenty first birthday party with Britney Spears to show

510
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Speaker 4: what a big deal he is.

511
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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that's very impressive.

512
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Speaker 4: And then he kisses you later that night as a

513
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Speaker 4: forty year old dude, And you know, I mean, that'd

514
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Speaker 4: be an intoxicating thing to have happened.

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Speaker 1: That was back with Brittany was a giant pop star

516
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: and a shaven headed, wacked Yeah, you.

517
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Speaker 2: Can bring Brittany to my birthday party. Now it's like,

518
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 2: what the hell invited her? Boy? That poor thing?

519
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably half naked, danced around with a knife. Hey

520
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,160
Speaker 1: you put that thing away.

521
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah you're looking a little methy there, Brittany.

522
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Speaker 2: Have you come.

523
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 4: Across and I don't I don't need them, but have

524
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Speaker 4: you come across anybody who's reporting on the details of

525
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 4: these lurid texts that they.

526
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Speaker 2: Read in the courtroom today now good on the media.

527
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Speaker 4: Maybe we're sliding back to the old days where we

528
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: feel like this is not something anybody needs, even like

529
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Speaker 4: I was just surprised, even on the ABC Evening News

530
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Speaker 4: that she said in graphic testimony that we're not going

531
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Speaker 4: to explain. I thought, Wow, when did when did this start? Yeah?

532
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: Well, I think it's just way, way, way too graphic.

533
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Speaker 1: Is there a way because I mean, if a lot

534
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 1: of people are paying attention to a trial and getting

535
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Speaker 1: very very you know, just a fraction of the evidence

536
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: and then running around shouting their strongly held opinions, that

537
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: always bothers me. So I would like to know the

538
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: nature of the testimony just you can characterize it. But no,

539
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,760
Speaker 1: we don't need the filthy details. I can imagine them.

540
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: How do you think it landed?

541
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Speaker 4: The fact that she got twenty million dollars to keep

542
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Speaker 4: her mouth shut with the jury.

543
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Speaker 1: And then did well, she had to by the terms

544
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: of the agreement. It doesn't help your credibility. I could

545
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: see somebody, Well, there are a range of opinions from

546
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: look for twenty mil I mean that like changes your

547
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: life and your children's life and your grandchildren's life and

548
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: blah blah blah.

549
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Speaker 2: Her.

550
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Speaker 1: On the other hand, a person could say, all these

551
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: people are getting like raped and sex trafficked and beaten

552
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: and jabbed with drugs and the rest of it, and

553
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 1: you're giving your mouth shut for money. Huh Okay, I

554
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: could see either.

555
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: Her poor husband. I hope they make it. I mean,

556
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 2: because I mean, this would be a stress on any marriage.

557
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: And you know what he already knew in what he

558
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 4: didn't I mean, he might be sitting there in the courtroom.

559
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 4: You never told me that that you like, were into

560
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 4: it or whatever.

561
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 2: Really, I don't know.

562
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't mean to be childish or

563
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: idiotic about this because it's you know, troubling case.

564
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

565
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:17,879
Speaker 1: But if she's like particularly conservative and demure in the

566
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: bedroom these days, and you know there are text messages

567
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Speaker 1: about her enthusiasm for running through the entire Comma Sutra,

568
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, her current man might think wait a minute.

569
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Speaker 8: He apparently asked her to refer to him as pop Pop,

570
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 8: which was the nickname she used for her grandfather. Ooh ooh,

571
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 8: and she said, quote, I thought it was weird.

572
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: You know why it is uber weird?

573
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: Wow, Wow, that's a pretty good flex showing up with

574
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 4: then at the time, very big deal Britney Spears and

575
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 4: just so it's your birthday, I thought you might think of.

576
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,960
Speaker 2: This was cool. Did she pop out of a cake?

577
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 2: That's what I want to know. And then that's when

578
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 2: the whole thing started. Everybody got covered with baby oil.

579
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: And you know the rest who the.

580
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Speaker 4: Us who are the enthusiastically show up with puff hats,

581
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Speaker 4: puffy hats dancing to music supporters.

582
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Speaker 2: I guess you're the same that the same crowd that

583
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 2: showed up to.

584
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson's trial, all excited about supporting their almost completely

585
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 4: obviously pedophile hero.

586
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I've read debate on that point recently, but I

587
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: don't want to relitigate that one. But yeah, you're you're

588
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: you're a softhead. You're an oddball. Do you have real friends,

589
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: actual friends, family? Don't you have a job?

590
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 2: Right? There are some crowds out gently.

591
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Speaker 8: There are some cracked out homeless guy yelling at the

592
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Speaker 8: news outlets. I can't remember if it was yesterday or

593
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Speaker 8: if it was on Tuesday, but he ran up without

594
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 8: a shirt on. He's like freaky and he started telling

595
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 8: everybody shut up, b and like just going off.

596
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 2: He got arrested. That sounds about right.

597
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 4: So they're going after her today to try to make

598
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 4: her look well, what are they trying to make her look?

599
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 4: You almost went to law school. What is their number

600
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 4: one thing? Make her look like a liar or like

601
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 4: a money She hasn't doing this for money. She got

602
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Speaker 4: twenty million.

603
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Dollars, a willing participant and somebody who didn't feel strongly

604
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: enough about all of this to not take the money

605
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: and shut up. They're just trying to impeach her credibility

606
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: in general, you know, and accomplish something very much like

607
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: you described, just make the jury think, I don't want

608
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: to listen to this woman.

609
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 2: She's half a nut herself.

610
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Speaker 4: And you could also get to an emotion perhaps where

611
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Speaker 4: you'd think she got twenty million dollars. So it's not like,

612
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 4: you know, come on, it's not like she got her

613
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: life ruined or whatever. She because a lot of people

614
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 4: feel like money fixes everything and everything will be happy

615
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: for the rest of your life if you have enough money.

616
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 4: So she has twenty million dollars, So what's the big deal.

617
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Speaker 1: Yeah, for the record, We're not defending these notions. We're

618
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Speaker 1: just saying that's what the defense is trying to put

619
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Speaker 1: into people's heads. Because I would say, somebody's forcible raped

620
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: and compelled to commit bizarre sex acts over an extended

621
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Speaker 1: period under thread of beatings, that's gonna have an effect

622
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Speaker 1: on their life.

623
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Speaker 2: No matter what their check account, checking account.

624
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Speaker 4: They're gonna be the headline being Diddy's mom showed up

625
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 4: with a new wig. Oh it did say that Puff

626
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: is taking notes for the first time in the trial.

627
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 4: I don't know what his notes are. Oh, that was

628
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,040
Speaker 4: a good one. I forgot about that one. Let's do

629
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: that one again Friday.

630
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Speaker 2: If I ever get loose.

631
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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, if I'm ever out of jail, and he

632
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 4: may never be ever again in his life, which is

633
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: sat wherever you're living. Some of your taxi when he

634
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 4: went to the California High Speed Rail already maybe more.

635
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,480
Speaker 2: It's stupider than you even thought.

636
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Speaker 4: I'm glad national organizations are starting to look into this.

637
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 4: This is quite an update on the high speed fail.

638
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Speaker 4: Stay tuned.

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00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 7: So no matter Tayman News that's the streaming service Max

640
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Speaker 7: is now changing its name back.

641
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Speaker 2: To HBO Max.

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00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 7: People were like well, as long as my parents keep

643
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Speaker 7: paying for it, you can call it.

644
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: So there's been a couple of great government works, things

645
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 4: that got out of control and cost gazillions of dollars

646
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 4: and never got finished in my lifetime. I remember Boston's

647
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 4: big dig, hearing about that my whole life, decades and

648
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 4: decades and decades of wasted tons of money, Alaska's famous

649
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 4: bridge to nowhere. But they're all paling in comparison to

650
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 4: California's high speed rail project, which goes back to two

651
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Speaker 4: thousand and eight, and if it's not already at the

652
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Speaker 4: end of the day, will be the biggest government sinkhole

653
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Speaker 4: of bureaucracy and waste as an example of how democracy

654
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Speaker 4: keys can fail in our nation's history.

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Speaker 1: And it's probably already be in Richmond too. I must

656
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Speaker 1: point out part of.

657
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Speaker 4: The reason it's getting a bunch of a national attention now.

658
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 4: New York Times did a story last Sunday, the Associated

659
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Speaker 4: presses on it, and The Dispatch did a story yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Is the c HSR. That's the California High Speed Rail Authority.

661
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 2: They put out.

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Speaker 4: New numbers just recently, and their own new numbers have

663
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Speaker 4: now increased the total cost to one hundred and thirty

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Speaker 4: five billion dollars. When taxpayers agreed to this, it was

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Speaker 4: thirty three billion. It's now one hundred and thirty five billion.

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Speaker 4: It's more than one hundred billion dollars more than originally

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Speaker 4: proposed it was. We were supposed to be writing it

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Speaker 4: five years ago. It's supposed to be done in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 4: I have not written into view. They're now saying it.

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Speaker 2: Comes anywhere near the original promise.

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Speaker 1: It will be north of two hundred billion dollars, mark

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Speaker 1: my words.

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Speaker 2: And they and they said in their most recent.

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Speaker 4: Statement it may take two more decades to complete most

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Speaker 4: of the San Francisco to Los Angeles segment, two more

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Speaker 4: decades to complete most. So they're not even saying in

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Speaker 4: two decades they.

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Speaker 2: Can complete it, right.

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Speaker 4: And I don't know if you know about travel, but

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Speaker 4: you need the whole thing. Like if I'm going to

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Speaker 4: New York this summer, I need to get all the

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Speaker 4: way there. Most of the way doesn't do any good.

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Speaker 4: It's either get you to Indianapolis. It's really an all

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Speaker 4: or nothing proposition. Whenever you travel somewhere, Am I going

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Speaker 4: there or not? But I thought this was really interesting,

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Speaker 4: and I can't believe this hasn't gotten more attention. This

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Speaker 4: is from the chsra's own plan. It is now going

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Speaker 4: to connect to towns on the outskirts of both major metros.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna take you from San Francisco to Los Angeles.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna take you from Gilroy, which if you live

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Speaker 4: in the area, you know very close to San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: And that is the outskirts of the outskirts of the out.

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Speaker 4: It's seventy miles southeast of San Francisco.

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Speaker 1: To check, it will take you just under two hours

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Speaker 1: to drive from Gilroy to San Francisco as we speak.

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Speaker 4: To Palmdale, which is thirty seven miles northeast of the

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Speaker 4: edge of Los Angeles, and in Los Angeles traffic, it

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Speaker 4: would take you several hours to make that drive. So

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Speaker 4: instead of the city centers, it's going to take you

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Speaker 4: from Gilroy to Palmdale. That will save construction time and money,

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Speaker 4: but it will need mean the writers will need another

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Speaker 4: hour or more to get into the cities. That is

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Speaker 4: an incredibly generous statement. I would say a minimum of

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Speaker 4: three to four hours on a good day, all.

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Speaker 1: Told, an hour and a quarter from Palmdale to La

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 4: All told economist Scott Summer estimates that this new setup

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Speaker 4: would require at least a seven hour series of trains

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Speaker 4: or cars for someone to get from downtown San Francisco

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Speaker 4: to downtown Los Angeles. Instead of the original promised three

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Speaker 4: hour one train trip and seven hours on the best

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Speaker 4: everything broke your way.

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Speaker 1: It would take seven hours for seven times the budget

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Speaker 1: over fifty years of construction.

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Speaker 2: Right, So that's the current statement.

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Speaker 4: That And and when Trump cut off federal funding or

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Speaker 4: said he wanted to cut off federal funding a week

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Speaker 4: or so, go to people rally, how dare you.

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Speaker 2: You don't believe in high spreed rail or whatever?

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Speaker 4: And Gavin Newsom is still touting this is something to

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Speaker 4: be proud of.

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Speaker 1: It is the greatest failure of democracy. I've ever witnessed

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Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff coming up an hour four.

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