1 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, Luck and load. The 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: Michael vari Show is on the air. Great piece from 3 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: a local staff writer on who writes on the NFL 4 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: talking about how high school football is helping Kerrville heal 5 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: after the July fourth floods. Name's Jonathan Alexander. He writes. 6 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: They arrived nearly an hour before kickoff and took their 7 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: seats in the bleachers wearing cowboy hats, round tow cowboy boots, 8 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 1: and blue and gold paraphernalia. Some of the town's residents, 9 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:15,520 Speaker 1: fresh off work, arrived by bus. Others arrived in cars, 10 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 1: and some in trucks so tall they had to climb 11 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: up just to get in them. It's Friday night at 12 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: Tivvy High School in Kerrville, where high school football has 13 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: become a place of solace for residence as they continue 14 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: to pick up the pieces of what they lost in 15 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: the July fourth flood that devastated not only this town 16 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: but all of the Texas Hill Country. Kerrville, a small, 17 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: blue collar town of a little more than twenty four 18 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: thousand people, is a place where natives often return to 19 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: their roots to settle down and raise families or retire 20 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: after they tire from the big city life in nearby 21 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: San and Tone. It's been two months since that flood, 22 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 1: and though the signs of destruction are mostly gone after 23 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: weeks of rebuilding, the memories won't ever fade. But once 24 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: a week the residents gather to escape the realities of 25 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: their situations. They come here to heal with one another 26 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: and cheer on the antlers. The games at Tivvy High 27 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: School regularly attract between three and four thousand proud Curveville residents, 28 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 1: always clad in blue and gold. Signs with the acronym 29 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: TFND were plastered all around the stadium. It stands for 30 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:25,839 Speaker 1: Tivvy Fight Never Dies and has become this town's rallying cry. 31 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: The people of Curvil are tough, resilient, passionate, lovable, supportive, 32 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 1: said Curtis Neil, Tivvy's football coach and athletic director. It's unbelievable. 33 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: In the days after the storm, Neil and the Tivy 34 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 1: football players helped clean up neighborhoods and passed out water 35 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 1: to first responders involved in the search and rescue efforts. 36 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 1: They helped organize food drives. Most of his players made 37 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: it out okay, though two players lost their homes swept 38 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: away in the flood. Repairing what was lost has been 39 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: a long process for this community in the Texas hill Country. 40 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Healing doesn't happen overnight. It takes time. It is still 41 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: it is still unreal. Alonso, the police officer, said, shocking 42 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: that that had happened, because you never expected to happen 43 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: in your own backyard. But for two hours at least, 44 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: they could forget about it. It served as a brief 45 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: reprieve from the reality is they'll face the next day. 46 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: After the game. They hopped in their cars and trucks 47 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 1: and the and the transportation. They came in. Next Friday, 48 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: after they're done with work, the residents will come and 49 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: do the same. They'll gather in the same spot as 50 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: this high school football field and cheer on their favorite team, 51 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: and once again they'll try to heal. Some more interesting 52 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: that he describes which boot, which toe choice for their boots. 53 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: They arrived nearly an hour before cook kickoff and took 54 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: their seats in the bleachers wearing cowboy hats round tow 55 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: cowboy boots. That's oddly specific. The timing is sort of 56 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: uncus because I went over last night to Republic Boot 57 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: Company and I needed to get a new pair of boots. 58 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: And I Ian Smith, who's actually kind of their their 59 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: events guy and their brand guy. They do a lot 60 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: of events now because they've created a Texana feel about 61 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: the place. And so they had a group of Canadians 62 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: in yesterday and this group was was doing business in 63 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: Houston and they had come they wanted something really Texas 64 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: and really Texan, and so they asked around. People told 65 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: them go to a Republic Boot Company. And they get 66 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: there and then they stay for the day and they 67 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: have they end up canceling their meetings and having their meeting. 68 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: They have like an awesome boardroom there, but it's all 69 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: very Texas. The whole theme of everything, the smell when 70 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: you walk in. You know, there was a what was 71 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: it the horsemen in Orange on I tend just before 72 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: Simmons Drive. You were headed eastward to Louisiana, and I 73 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: remember going there to get my belt, and you know, 74 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 1: they'd have the the you could have your name punched 75 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: into the back of it. And I can remember as 76 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: a kid going there Western where it was real big. 77 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: And I can remember as a kid going there and 78 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: getting my pearl snap shirt or you know, your new 79 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 1: pair of Wranglers jeans or whatever that would be getting 80 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: that belt. And I can remember the smell when you 81 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: would go in, well, this has that great smell and 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: they've taken care of It's like a movie set, except 83 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: it's real. It's like what you would hope a Texas 84 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: boot company would be if you made it in a movie. 85 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: But it's that in real life anyway. So I had 86 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: to choose my toe. And I had a pair of 87 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: boots years ago. I can't remember the name, but it 88 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: was that squared off front and I'd never owned a 89 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: pair of boots since I was in second grade when 90 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: Dingo boots. You remember Dingo boots. Dingo boots were all 91 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: the rage, and I had a pair of tan Dingo 92 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: boots with the squared off front cap toe. I forget 93 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: what they're called. You you real cowboys will know what 94 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. But anyway, I chose the most traditional, 95 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: as he says, here, the round toe front. And you've 96 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: got choices on. You know what your upper is gonna be, 97 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,040 Speaker 1: what your vamp is going to look like, what's your everything? 98 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 1: Every detail? And I got to watch boots actually being made, 99 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 1: which is a fascinating process. I don't know if you've 100 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: ever seen this from moment, but all of the So 101 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: there was a guy, there was one guy whose job 102 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,799 Speaker 1: it was when the boots would come through the stitching 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: on the inside of the boot, it's going to touch 104 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: your upper calf. That's touching right against your skin. But 105 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,719 Speaker 1: because it is stitched through there and then cut when 106 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: you threw with the stitch, you know they got swy machines. 107 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of stitching going on. Well, where you 108 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: leave the end of a stitch can create like a 109 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: little burr. So there's a guy who's one of he 110 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: is a finisher. One of his jobs is to take 111 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 1: the boot, which at that point is turned inside out. 112 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: It's not attached to the heel and the sole until 113 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: the very end. So the part of your boot that 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 1: is wearing against your leg is very very carefully curated 115 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: because you want that to be comfortable. You don't want 116 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: to scratch against your against your leg. That would be uncomfortable. 117 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: So the boot is the upper of the boot. Everything 118 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: from your your ankle. H what's that bone that comes 119 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: out of your ankle bone or your ankle right there, 120 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm talking about what it's not the patellion goofball? 121 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 2: What is that call? 122 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: Right there? You know the ball? What is it? It 123 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: is a joint. But there's a term for that. What 124 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 1: is it name for the ball? You know you go 125 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: up from your heels right there on there. Anyway, So 126 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: this guy's job. He sat there with a lighter and 127 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: he would burn anything that was off and he would 128 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: take you, rub it down and make it smooth. I thought, man, 129 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: that's a nice that's a nice little attention of details. 130 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 3: Berry list to the beery shine. 131 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 1: Well, of course you know the story of George Jones 132 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: and his wife taking away the keys so that in 133 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 1: his drunken stupor that evening he couldn't drive to the 134 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: bar to have more to drink. So he slipped out, 135 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: went out to the garage or the woodshed, and took 136 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 1: the riding lawnmower up to the bar. There have been 137 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: songs made about it, there are many document minories. It's 138 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: taken on a life of its own. Well. A Canadian 139 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: man in British Columbia has been arrested for DWI the 140 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: driving while intoxicated charge. He was driving his child's Barbie 141 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: jeep on a seven eleven run the story from Oh Sorry, 142 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: I didn't tell you which one. This is clip number 143 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: fourteen from News Nation. The incident occurred on a busy 144 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: street in Prince George, British Columbia, on September fifth, around 145 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: nine am local time. How you gonna be hammered? At 146 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: nine o'clock in the. 147 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 4: Morning a drunk man and a child sized battery powered 148 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 4: pink barbie jeep. Casper Lincoln told the CBC that he 149 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 4: just wanted to buy a slurpee, but was too lazy 150 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 4: to walk to the seven eleven, so he helped himself 151 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 4: to a ride in a vehicle belonging to the little 152 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 4: daughter of his roommate. This happened about a week and 153 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 4: a half ago. A friend decided to walk beside him 154 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 4: as he hugged the curb on a major thoroughfare in 155 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,079 Speaker 4: that barbie jeep. Lincoln says he was going less than 156 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:12,680 Speaker 4: two miles an hour and signaling with his hands, yet 157 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 4: those police still pulled him over anyway, And then he 158 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 4: learned it. In British Columbia, any conveyance with the motor 159 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,120 Speaker 4: is considered a car and that the driver has to 160 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 4: have a license, which in Casper Lincoln's case was suspended, 161 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 4: and much to his shock and dismay, I'm guessing he 162 00:10:28,440 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 4: failed two breathalyzer tests. 163 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: So he was. 164 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 4: Arrested for DUI and given a ninety day driving band 165 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 4: Barbie jeep or otherwise, both of which he plans plans 166 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 4: to fight. There is no word on how he plans 167 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 4: to get there though, to that December court gate. 168 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: So it's funny, especially if you see the pink Barbie car. 169 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 1: But honestly, these are the sorts of things that make 170 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 1: people hate cops. These are the sorts of things that 171 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: you wish you could be the good boy on the 172 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: shoulder of the cop and go. You realize if you 173 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: write that ticket that a lot of people are gonna 174 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: think that what you just did was stupid. Nobody believes 175 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: that a guy riding along with his buddy walking beside 176 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: him to the seven eleven in his daughter's little Barbie 177 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 1: at two miles an hour is a danger to anyone. 178 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: Nobody believes that, now did he pull up, all right, guys, 179 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: what's going on here? And the guy mouthed off to him, maybe, 180 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: in which case you got a DWI. But that's not 181 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 1: what you did to deserve it. What you did to deserve. 182 00:11:54,320 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: It was the drunken mouth off. But if we're going 183 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: to be writing tickets for nonsense like that, you end 184 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: up losing a lot of support from the public. Not 185 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: every little tiki tac thing needs to be ticketed or 186 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: charged or arrested. There's just no way around that. And 187 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that I've argued. I've argued with 188 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: cop friends of mine, i argued with my brother about it. 189 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 1: I've argued with a lot of people over the years. 190 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: I'll pose it to you. So let's say a guy 191 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: goes into a bar. He has a lot to drink. 192 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:47,079 Speaker 1: He is clearly incapable of operating a motor vehicle safely, 193 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: which endangers him and a lot of other people that 194 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: are out on the road. So, whether he intends to 195 00:12:56,000 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: or not, he falls asleep. Officers come up. He's clearly 196 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: passed out. He's behind the wheel, the car is in park, 197 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: he's in a parking lot, and he's asleep. People get 198 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: charged for that. Now. Officers will tell you, and criminal 199 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: defense attorneys will tell you, take the keys and put 200 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: them in the trunk. Take the keys, put them in 201 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: a separate place, so that it would have been impossible 202 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: for you to drive. So now you're sitting in a 203 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 1: car drunk, which if they want to get you for 204 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: public intoks, they could try, but you're probably going to 205 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: beat that. But it's not a moving violation. It's not 206 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: going to hound you for years away. A DWI is 207 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: and so that that advice is often that advice is 208 00:13:55,240 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: universally given. Well, let's go back to this case. Let's 209 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: say a guy just passes out. He doesn't make a 210 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: conscious decision that I'm going to sleep it off. Well, 211 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: whatever you do there, it's probably not going to the 212 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: fact that he didn't intend to pass out. He would 213 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: have rather driven home and possibly killed somebody on the way. 214 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: And it is a really bad thing. But let's say 215 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: a guy says to himself, you know what, I've had 216 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: too much to drink. It's unsafe for me to try 217 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: to drive home. If I sleep a few hours, I 218 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: will wake up in a better state that I'm in now. 219 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: It'll be light out and it'll be safer for me 220 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: to drive home. We want people to make that decision. Now, 221 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: I've had people say should have been drunk, and you 222 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: shouldn't be a dumbass, But here we are. You're right, 223 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:56,440 Speaker 1: shouldn't be drunk, but he is drunk. So now, to 224 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: the extent a drunk person can make a decent decision, 225 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: some people still can't. When he gets to his car, 226 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: here are his options. Drive home, it'll take him fifteen minutes, 227 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: risk killing himself and other people on the way, but 228 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: only expose himself to arrest for fifteen minutes. Or sit 229 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: here drawing attention to himself in a vehicle that's the 230 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: only vehicle in the parking lot for the next four hours. 231 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 1: Will the odds say you're better off risking the drive 232 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: home if you're talking about avoiding an arrest. We should 233 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: make laws and enforce laws that encourage safer behaviors without 234 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: infringing on people's freedom of choice. Movement thought we should 235 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: encourage a guy, if you've had too much to drink, 236 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: sleep it off in your car. But officers have said no, no, 237 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: we're writing a ticket. I think that's a horrible, horrible, stupid, 238 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: bad approach, not good at all. So now you're saying 239 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: to the guy, I can't fall asleep. If I fall asleep, 240 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: they'll catch me here. So I'm going to try to 241 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: risk it and go home. That's not what any of 242 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: us want. 243 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: Well, this is Niki Gilly and the girls all get 244 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 4: pretty at closing time when you're listening to the Michael 245 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: Berry Show. 246 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: So I was talking about the Walmart's the other day, 247 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: and I had a fellow He couldn't understand why I 248 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: was criticizing Walmart. He goes to Walmart almost every day. 249 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: He loves Walmart. Walmart it's a good place. Walmart brings 250 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: him joy. And he clearly lived out in the country 251 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: where you can go to Walmart and it's not a 252 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 1: BLM convention. But if you are inside the Beltway in 253 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Houston or any other major city in the country, large 254 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: urban core, you steer clear of the Walmart because that's 255 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: where the public housing project residents go. A Walmart employee 256 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: has been arrested for shooting a woman during a fight 257 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: inside of Walmart in Northeast Terrace County. Popo say the 258 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: female employee got into a scuffle with several other women 259 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 1: outside the store, then moved into the store, where she 260 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 1: pulled a gun and shot one of the women she 261 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 1: was fighting with in the arm ramone, I think there 262 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: might be Wigsnatchy. The story from Khou. Twenty two year 263 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 1: old brig Shawn Manu. Wow. 264 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 5: She's the Walmart employee who was booked into the Harris 265 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 5: County jail yesterday after investigators say several women, including Manuel, 266 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 5: got into a fight Thursday afternoon. That scuffle started in 267 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 5: the parking lot, then moved inside near the cash registers, 268 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 5: and deputy say that's when Manuel pulled a gun and 269 00:18:08,320 --> 00:18:11,600 Speaker 5: opened fire, hitting one of the women in the arm, 270 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 5: leaving many customers in the store, as you can imagine, 271 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 5: running for their lives as investigators work to piece together 272 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 5: exactly what happened. 273 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: The other three females, I think came to complain. 274 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 6: To management about her nothing to do with Walmart. 275 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 5: Soon we heard the shots. Everybody likes to start running, 276 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 5: so yes, that's the only thing that I thought of. 277 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 5: I wasn't gonna come out of his Now this morning, 278 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: we're told the woman who was shot is expected to 279 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 5: be okay. Wutysa, the employee immediately surrendered to law enforcement 280 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 5: after the shooting occurred, and as of right now, there's 281 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 5: no word yet on when Manuela is expected to make 282 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 5: her first court appearance, but we do know that state 283 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 5: prosecutors are asking she be held on a sixty thousand 284 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: dollars bond in this case, of. 285 00:18:55,840 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: Course, and they wonder why people or shopping online. 286 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 7: Nowadays September means flash deals at Walmart for the first 287 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 7: time ever, we're begging you to shop online. Well, we're 288 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:13,400 Speaker 7: slashing prices, but we don't want to slash ard customers. 289 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, give me that ipay for my dead mondy Oh, hell, 290 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 3: I don't mean stam. Yeah, that's right. Can't believe you 291 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 3: felt it with your nannitude in moody. Fact, skip the 292 00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 3: crime and shop online. It's the big Walmart online sale, 293 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: same cheap Chinese crap without the wick snatches, hocke outca 294 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 3: Baltimore gay bag, or flat out. 295 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: Getting We caught it the Walmart welcome. 296 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: Look, we realize you voted for Trump and doesn't want 297 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,320 Speaker 3: to step foot in our stores. But the same reason 298 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 3: you avoid carnival cruises and Chuck e Cheese reminds you 299 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 3: of shopping at Walmart. So bypass the tight short to 300 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 3: Shonda's and the meth in Fetamie Marlowe. I know you 301 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: got the more of that red boat up in a 302 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 3: com on. I need a limit that more up. I 303 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 3: need a zambamiggy damn. Come on, let's go for. 304 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,960 Speaker 8: A limited time only dog owner can take advantage of 305 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 8: our ol Roy dog food special, named after our founder 306 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 8: Sam Walton's favorite good boy, Roy Well. We guarantee a 307 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,679 Speaker 8: little bit of old Roy and every day to anyone 308 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 8: with the right mind. Shop online and skip the crime 309 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 8: at Walmart dot com. 310 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: So Robert Reese is one of our sellers here on 311 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the show, here at the company. He doesn't work for 312 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: our show. He works for the company, but our show. 313 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: He primarily sells our show and garden line on the weekends, 314 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: although he does sell some other things. And for at 315 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:40,399 Speaker 1: least ten years, every time I would draw past an 316 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Ace Hardware, I would send him a message, how come 317 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 1: Ace Hardware Texas dot Com is not a show sponsor? 318 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: And he would politely, if slightly irritatingly clinched mouth, say, 319 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: because each one is individually owned, and it's like herding cats, 320 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: and it's hard to get everybody together to agree on 321 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: one thing like this. And over the years, each time 322 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: I will you at least ask them. I don't typically 323 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 1: go out looking for show sponsors. They come to us 324 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 1: and then if it's a good fit, I'll say yes, 325 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: and if it's not, then I wouldn't feel comfortable talking 326 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 1: about that. But you kind of slightly fall in love 327 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:27,159 Speaker 1: with these businesses once they become show sponsors because you 328 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: want to help them succeed, and they have the human 329 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: story behind it. Their owner operated the family. Maybe the 330 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: father started the business, passed it to his son and 331 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: now his son operates it. Or maybe this was the 332 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: guy that started the business himself in Daniel Deane's case, 333 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: in high school, and now he's built up this business. 334 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: He's buying these big pieces of equipment, do amazing things 335 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 1: to clear all this's not help when it's a lake. 336 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what it's called. When it's a lake, 337 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: the vegetation out of your lake. He's so proud of it. 338 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: He's putting our stickers all over his be You know, 339 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: you get really interested in those sorts of things. So 340 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 1: at some point I think it was probably Bill Murph, 341 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: one of the one of the Ace Hardware Texas owners 342 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: at their meetings, said look, this guy is this guy 343 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: would be an ACE Hardware Texas owner if he could. 344 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: This guy believes in what we're have. Y'all have got 345 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: to listen to his show. So over the course of 346 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: a period of time, the owners did, and they realized 347 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: that if you want a particular customer at your ACE 348 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: Hardware because you or your wife or your adult kids 349 00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: are going to be working there, you want Michael Berry 350 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Show listeners. It's a widely known fact in the Houston 351 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: business community, retail community that our listeners, which is you, 352 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: is the people that businesses want. You don't want every 353 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: person that comes in. Walmart takes every person that comes in, 354 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: and that's when you end up with Wigsnatch. Cartoon network 355 00:22:54,920 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: Spongebobbery runs. Right now, what I am about to reveal 356 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: some very shocking news, something we don't do very often, 357 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: breaking news on The Michael Berry Show that will be 358 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: at a minimum surprising for some people. This news will 359 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: be shocking, but not yet. I'm gonna take phone calls first, 360 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: just to hang around, get your mind right, get in 361 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,679 Speaker 1: a place where you're ready to receive, because this is 362 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: going to be interesting and for some, as it was 363 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: for me, mildly disturbing. I will tell you as a 364 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: sort of hint, today is National Butterscotch Pudding Day, so 365 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 1: it will relate to butterscotch pudding. But let's get to 366 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: the calls first. We will start with Randolph the first 367 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 1: name of one of my favorite people ever to live 368 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: in Orange, Texas, and that was the Great Randolph Nip 369 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,360 Speaker 1: or Canip also known as Spots. 370 00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 6: Yes, Randolph, Michael So, and you piach my interest with 371 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 6: the story about the ticket. You always do, but that so, 372 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 6: what do they give you a ticket for? I mean, 373 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 6: you're not driving, so it can't be driving under the influence? 374 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 6: Is it public intoxication? If you're on a private property, 375 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: it can't be trespassing unless the owner called and said, hey, 376 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 6: this guy has parked out. 377 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: My I'm just I've known people to get a DWI. 378 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,919 Speaker 1: Driving does not necessarily mean in motion if you're in 379 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: operation of the vehicle, as I understand it. It doesn't, 380 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 1: as I understand. 381 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 6: Because it's a verb, it doesn't. It doesn't it imply 382 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:47,480 Speaker 6: act Well. 383 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: Listen, I I yes, Randolph, I one hundred person agree 384 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,360 Speaker 1: with you. I think it's ridiculous. Interesting since I made 385 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: that comment, I received over ten emails from well a 386 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: lot of emails from listeners, but over ten emails from 387 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: law enforcement, and every single one of them has said, yes, 388 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: some officers do that. I never do that. One saying 389 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 1: that he takes the keys and puts them in a 390 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: different part of the vehicle so that the guy can't 391 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: drive and kill himself, rather than write him at DWI. 392 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: But I agree. 393 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 6: I mean it would seem like you'd pat him on 394 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 6: the shoulder and say, hey, thanks for not driving. 395 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: Right, thank you for sleeping where you can't kill someone. 396 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:39,919 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people are not deeply philosophical 397 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: about inputs and outputs, incentives consequences. They don't think through. 398 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: I think there are probably some law enforcement officers who 399 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: lose sight because it's a tough job and your abuse 400 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: daily and there's generally off's greatest aggravation is the department 401 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: they work for, not the people they have to arrest, 402 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: the departments they work for that become highly politicized, and 403 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: the crap they have to put up with, which is 404 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 1: why you ask an HPD officer and there will be 405 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 1: a lot more job dissatisfaction than a sheriff's officer out 406 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: in the country. What was old boys name that we 407 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: talked to the other day, McDougall, that was out in Molton. 408 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's one hundred and fifteen years old. Was 409 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: he sixty seven? 410 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: And he. 411 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: Decided to go back and be or Wayne Stanfield with Carol. 412 00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,719 Speaker 1: And you know these old codgers that have a background 413 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: good judgment and they're not going to outrun anybody. They 414 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,639 Speaker 1: may not be able to outfight anybody, but they're going 415 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: to make good judgment in administering the law. And that's 416 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: in enforcing the law, and that's worth you know, you 417 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: get a young buck coming straight out out of Afghanistan 418 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: or Iraq get himself in trouble because he's used to 419 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,959 Speaker 1: using his physical sense to resolve problems when you're going 420 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,959 Speaker 1: to have to learn to use some other tools to 421 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,479 Speaker 1: get people to do what you want them to do 422 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: and to avoid conflict and things like that. But a 423 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: good officer understands. Good officers applied discretion and that's just 424 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 1: a fact. They don't say, ah, it's watch the law 425 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: says I got to enforce a law. There is a 426 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: tiki tak law for everything out there, many of which 427 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: you don't know about. Your job is to make good 428 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 1: decisions to increase overall safety while protecting and preserving our 429 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 1: freedoms and liberties. And you know, a good lawyer is 430 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,439 Speaker 1: I mean, a good cop is a golden thing. And 431 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,879 Speaker 1: occasionally you get the random guy who he is just 432 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: a little too excited about enforcing the law and hoping 433 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 1: that you'll you'll resist. But good officers, which is the 434 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: vast majority, would make a good decision, a common sense 435 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,480 Speaker 1: to At that point, let's go to Pete. Pete, you're 436 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,479 Speaker 1: on a Michael Berry show. Go ahead, brother, how are 437 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 1: you doing? 438 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 2: Michael? I'm good about the cancel culture thing. I got 439 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760 Speaker 2: a little different take on it. You know, they're they're 440 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 2: saying that everything that's happening, like with the Kimmel and 441 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:19,439 Speaker 2: stuff like that, is cancel culture, and they're trying to 442 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: get us to buy into that. I don't really think 443 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,439 Speaker 2: it's cancel culture. I think cancel culture is you know, 444 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: finding a picture of me at a you know, a 445 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: protest fifteen years ago where somebody burnt a flag and 446 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 2: they dredged that up, and you know, they tear you 447 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 2: through the mud, you know, or you know some twitter 448 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 2: you did ten years ago. But I think Kimmel is accountability. 449 00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 2: I don't think it's cancel culture. I think since it's 450 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 2: the time and the place and current, it's not cancel culture. 451 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 2: I think it's countability, and I think people need to 452 00:28:56,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: be held accountable for their their actions on the spot. 453 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: So these teachers and lawyers and nurses and you know 454 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: Hollywood folks that lose their jobs. It's accountability. And I 455 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: think it's about time that people are held for that 456 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 2: because they just randomly just go off. And you know, 457 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: Trump's a hitler, He's a Nazi. I mean, you have 458 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: to have some accountability for that. And if you lose 459 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,959 Speaker 2: your book deal or you lose your day job because 460 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 2: of it, that's not cancel culture. Cancel culture's digging up 461 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 2: from the past. 462 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 5: I think. 463 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: I would agree with some of what you said, probably 464 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: even most of what you say in the main But 465 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: whatever term you want to apply when you say that 466 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: people need to be held accountable, I think that's a 467 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: very very slipper who will hold them accountable? And for 468 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: what we hold people accountable. I believe in absolute free speech, 469 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 1: short of yelling fire in a crowded movie theater, As 470 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: a Supreme Court famously said, I believe in being able 471 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: to criticiz criticize the president. I believe in being able 472 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:25,360 Speaker 1: to call any president, whether it be Trump or Obama hitler. 473 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: I believe in the freedom to call anyone anything without limit. 474 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: I also believe in the forces that informally operate as 475 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: an invisible hand to move not just our economic system, 476 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: but our society. I don't think we have any right 477 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: to be protected from offensive speech. I hate the term 478 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: hate speech. And by the way, so did Charlie Kirk. 479 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: If we're going to invoke the name of Charlie Kirk, 480 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: let's talk about what he really believed. What happened to 481 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel is not, in my opinion, accountability. If he 482 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: wants to say that Charlie Kirk's assassination was a great 483 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: thing and dance on his grave, so be it. The 484 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: marketplace responded, and the marketplace is not always perfect, but 485 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: in this case, it is the marketplace. What we're finally 486 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: beginning to see when you talk about accountability, we don't 487 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: need laws to say you can't dance on the grave 488 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: of a person who's been assassinated. That's not wrong. You 489 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: have to lose your job. Well, I don't believe that. 490 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 1: What we're finally seeing is that Americans are speaking out 491 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: and that businesses are beginning to recognize. As the Yankees 492 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: led the charge with putting the vast majority of Americans 493 00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: think that Jimmy Kimmel's comments and Jimmy Kimmel generally that 494 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: he's crass and he's unfunny, and we're not going to 495 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: tolerate it, and so we don't react in a governmental 496 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: sensorial sense. We react as a marketplace. You lose your 497 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: job because you don't. You're not even good at it.