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Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show, we take a big

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Speaker 1: picture look of you from thirty thousand feet if you

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Speaker 1: will at the season's first four games, the good, the

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Speaker 1: not so good, my history repeat itself. Don't forget it

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Speaker 1: was at this point in the season a year ago

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Speaker 1: in which the offense transformed itself. Plus we tour around

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Speaker 1: the division. How did the rest of the NFC West fair?

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Speaker 1: In Week four? It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three twenty six,

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Speaker 1: and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with

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Speaker 1: Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented

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Speaker 1: Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight of Fens

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Speaker 1: Here's Craig gril and Mike Jareckie. So, a two and

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Speaker 1: two record isn't great, It isn't bad either. It's how

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Speaker 1: of banks. MJ. You win at San Francisco, you beat

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Speaker 1: Washington at home. Then you'll lose the Lions at home,

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Speaker 1: fall to the Panthers on the road. And when you

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Speaker 1: start two and oz, well, the expectations increase, and now

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Speaker 1: you'll lose two and a row and you feel like

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Speaker 1: you'll never get back into the wind column. And I

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Speaker 1: think that's where the Cardinals are right now. Yeah, And

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Speaker 1: the reason why the expectations were a lot higher this

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Speaker 1: year is because we talked about the stability in the

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Speaker 1: you know, the guys that they wanted were still under contract,

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Speaker 1: including Van's Joseph and then the head coach and the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: There was stability there and you know, unfortunately though they

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Speaker 1: didn't have an offseason, and again no excuses. It was

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Speaker 1: for all thirty two teams. But when you hear veteran

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Speaker 1: players like Larry Fitzgerald who really didn't play in the

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Speaker 1: preseason and Chandler Jones, you know, I think the first

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Speaker 1: month of the season, the first four games, is kind

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Speaker 1: and you know, they're close. They've shown flashes on both

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Speaker 1: out there. And I think what Matt Patricia did to

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Speaker 1: then what happened on Sunday against the Panthers. You know,

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals came out of the game. They got a

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Speaker 1: He forces a throw to Christian Kirk. Three guys were

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Speaker 1: the wrong kind of consistency we saw on Sunday. We

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Speaker 1: put up points, field goals, touchdowns. Again, we'd rather not

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Speaker 1: with his kicks. Yet, this offense, certainly, I think, is

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Speaker 1: I think based on how teams are defending the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: offense saying we're gonna let you throw underneath. We're not

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Speaker 1: gonna let Kyler Murray get out of the pocket. They

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Speaker 1: have to go to Plan B now, and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to see what that is for the next four weeks.

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Speaker 1: And if you dig a little deeper as Tars trying

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Speaker 1: to find positives, I think another one would be Andy Isabella.

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Speaker 1: The numbers aren't astronomical, but I think you are seeing

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Speaker 1: him improve. And I'm gonna point to Christian Kirk only

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Speaker 1: missing the one game with a groin injury that we

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Speaker 1: hope isn't lingering and asn't a factor and slowing him down.

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Speaker 1: But he did have that touchdown catch on Sunday against

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Speaker 1: the Panthers, so it didn't seem to me like it

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Speaker 1: was affecting him any It didn't seem like the ankle

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Speaker 1: issue was much of an issue for DeAndre Hopkins. So

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Speaker 1: if this team can stay healthy on the offensive end

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Speaker 1: and maybe run the football a little bit more, because

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Speaker 1: the run game does set up the pass game, and

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Speaker 1: you can get all these pieces together, then maybe at

448
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Speaker 1: the halfway point, we're talking about how this offense has

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Speaker 1: made a considerable leap forward as far as not just yards,

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Speaker 1: but more importantly points per game. Well, and if you

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Speaker 1: look at the first two weeks that they were averaging

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Speaker 1: over there, maybe seventy snaps a game. This week they

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Speaker 1: only had fifty five. And that's because the Panthers had

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Speaker 1: the ball for almost forty minutes. It seemed like, so

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Speaker 1: you got to have more plays. And if we go

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Speaker 1: back to the first three drives, the Cardinals had a

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Speaker 1: whop in thirteen plays total. You know, they come out

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Speaker 1: and they get the nine yard run, they can pick

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Speaker 1: up the first down, miss Larry. He was wide open.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna get the sidelines excited. And then the next

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Speaker 1: possession he forces a ball to Christian Kirk and three

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Speaker 1: guys were open underneath, and you know, obviously he was

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Speaker 1: trying to get the ball there, but you know, take

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Speaker 1: what the defense gives you. I'd rather go with a

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Speaker 1: guy that's opened then trying to force it. And again,

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Speaker 1: he's only played twenty games, but these are great learning

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Speaker 1: experiences for a guy like Kyler Murray and Cliff Kingsbury. Now, defensively,

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Speaker 1: I think we're all in agreement that despite what happened

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. You know, we're only reacting to the last

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Speaker 1: image and the last performance of a defense. But overall,

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Speaker 1: I think this is a much improved defense from a

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Speaker 1: year ago. The free agent additions have certainly all been benefits.

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Speaker 1: Devon Knar, Jordan Phillips, and deve Andre Campbell have all

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Speaker 1: added something to this defense. Now, it's just about being consistent.

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Speaker 1: And what was alarming on Sunday it was just the

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Speaker 1: number of miss tackles and then, as you pointed out,

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Speaker 1: the third down defense, the red zone defense, all those

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Speaker 1: numbers that had been good through the first three games

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Speaker 1: kind of went the other way on Sunday. But you

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Speaker 1: have to be able to tackle, which everyone understands and

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Speaker 1: knows about. But tackling is a want to. It's not

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Speaker 1: something that it should be encouraged or coached. You just

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Speaker 1: just do it. And that was something Jordan Hicks brought

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Speaker 1: up on Sunday. Yeah, I mean, and you know, I

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Speaker 1: want to give the Panthers credit because they wanted the trenches.

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Speaker 1: They were pushing the envelope. But the Cardinals took some

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Speaker 1: bad angles, especially on the Teddy Bridgewater run. You know,

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Speaker 1: Campbell was trying to reddick. We're trying to seal the edge,

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Speaker 1: and then you had some miss tackles and you know

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Speaker 1: they clearly miss Pouda Baker. I mean, I'm staying the obvious.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's one of the best players on the team.

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Speaker 1: I think now he's in the same conversation with Chandler Jones,

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Speaker 1: probably ahead of Patrick Peterson when you started talking about

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Speaker 1: what you gotta look for in the cardinal defense, and

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Speaker 1: he would have made some of those plays in that game.

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Speaker 1: And you know, everyone has injuries. But this year, every

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Speaker 1: year there's a certain position. A couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: it was an old line. Last year it was a

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Speaker 1: running back position when they brought in Zach Center and

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Speaker 1: Alfred Morris and they made a trade for Kenyan Drake.

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Speaker 1: This year it's a safety head of your top three

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Speaker 1: safeties that were not playing, and we look at Buddha

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Speaker 1: Baker and Jalen Thompson, the strides that he's made, and

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Speaker 1: then you're throwing Chris Banjo, where more of a special

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Speaker 1: teams guy, and you're having your fourth and fifth safeties

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Speaker 1: out there, and then Patrick Peterson has to go play

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Speaker 1: a little safety. There was just too much real estate

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Speaker 1: and too many mistackles. And the Cardinals want to play

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Speaker 1: a certain defense, but based on the personnel not having

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Speaker 1: Buddha out there, they're playing a shell zones and they

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Speaker 1: were picking them apart, so they got to tighten that up.

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Speaker 1: But just getting back Buddha Baker, you know, Well, the

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Speaker 1: injury report comes out Wednesday, that's a big day, but

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Speaker 1: also Thursday and Friday, Karris to see where Jayalen Thompson

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Speaker 1: is and Kurs Banjo because that would go a long

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Speaker 1: way to this defense kind of getting back to the roots. Well,

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Speaker 1: and two players in particular, as far as you always

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Speaker 1: say the five star players, I need to see more

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Speaker 1: out of Chandler Jones, and it's not so much the

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Speaker 1: sack total, but just be disruptive in the backfield, whether

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Speaker 1: that's stripping the ball out or hitting the quarterback. I

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Speaker 1: think he's been a little bit too quiet. And then

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Speaker 1: Patrick Peterson, he needs to step up this redemption tour

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Speaker 1: that he talked about all season long. I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's started yet, to be honest. I mean, outside of

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Speaker 1: the interception, there were a lot of plays on Sunday

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Speaker 1: that we saw Number twenty one kind of avoid the play,

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Speaker 1: avoid the contact as opposed to being in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the play. Yeah, and that's happened two weeks in

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Speaker 1: a row with Terry mcclarn and then he's throwing Robbie Anderson.

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Speaker 1: And these are young receivers, but that's the league. I

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Speaker 1: know Patrick's first time in his career, along with Chandler

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Speaker 1: and Jones, that they're playing at the age of thirty,

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Speaker 1: but I still think Chandler's in his prime and Patrick

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Speaker 1: obviously needs to play better. Again, I think they want

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Speaker 1: to play man, but they're playing zone. And Robbie Anderson's

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Speaker 1: a young quick receiver and he was getting open. The

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Speaker 1: same thing with the Washington football team. But I agree

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Speaker 1: with you that the five star players got to play

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Speaker 1: a lot better. And then you need some other guys

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Speaker 1: to make plays, you know, whether it's rotation guy. So

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Speaker 1: those guys get paid well and they know that they

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Speaker 1: got to perform, but they need some other contributors, not

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Speaker 1: on maybe some household names, the guys that make some

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Speaker 1: plays like Andy Zabella can do or Chase Edmonds, even

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Speaker 1: though we know who they are, but they need other

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Speaker 1: players to step up, and you're wondering who's that next

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Speaker 1: guy going to be? And that's what you know you're

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Speaker 1: looking for in game day because if they can force

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Speaker 1: more turnovers, that would give them a ton more opportunities

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Speaker 1: on offense. Well, you get pressure on the quarterback, then

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Speaker 1: you don't have to ask your guys in the secondary

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Speaker 1: to cover a lot, and I think that was the

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Speaker 1: big issue on Sunday. And then when you have your

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Speaker 1: fourth and fifth strength safeties doing a lot of the

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Speaker 1: covering or in the secondary as your last line of

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Speaker 1: defense and there's no push up front or on the

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Speaker 1: outside and Bridgewater can just stand in the pocket and

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Speaker 1: pick you apart. That I think, more than anything is

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Speaker 1: what we saw against the Panthers. Yeah, I should say

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Speaker 1: three games that I went back to the Galliday game

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Speaker 1: too with going against Patrick Peterson. So yeah, again it's

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Speaker 1: it's a catch twenty two eight. You got to contain

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Speaker 1: the run. You got to try to force him in long,

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Speaker 1: third and long, and you need to get pressure up front.

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Speaker 1: And if they can play the defense the one, I

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Speaker 1: think they'll be much better for it. But again, guys,

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Speaker 1: this is something that you know, it was a big

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Speaker 1: deal yesterday when it came to when you start looking

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Speaker 1: at the film, is we heard a ton of us

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Speaker 1: under Steve Wilks. They didn't have gap integrity and there

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Speaker 1: was no gap discipline up front, and it showed. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Mike Davis was running all over these guys. I mean

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Speaker 1: they ran inside, they ran outside. They threw a couple

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Speaker 1: of slant passes next thing, you know, yards after catch.

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Speaker 1: So gap discipline was an issue. And I think Brinston

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Speaker 1: Buckner will get on these guys about that last point

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Speaker 1: on Chandler Jones and how quiet he's been with regards

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Speaker 1: to sacks. He only has the one and that was

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Speaker 1: week one. Looked it up. The last time Jones went

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Speaker 1: three games without a sack weeks thirteen, fourteen and fifteen

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Speaker 1: and twenty eighteen that season, he finished with thirteen. The

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Speaker 1: last time he had a four game stretch without a

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Speaker 1: sack his first season with the Cardinals in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 1: That season, he finished with double digit sacks with eleven.

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Speaker 1: So I think it's all going to happen. It's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of we would certainly like to happen it

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. And we've been waiting right now

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Speaker 1: for Chandler Jones to be Chandler Jones that we all

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Speaker 1: heard from and have seen so far in a Cardinals uniform. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We talked to Bertrand Berry on the Red Seat report

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Speaker 1: and I asked him, it's not the first time in

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Speaker 1: his career he's getting double teamed and they're chipping him

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Speaker 1: and they're trying to do a good job moving him around,

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Speaker 1: even though you didn't have Kenard out there last week.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Bertrand said, maybe you try to bring

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Speaker 1: him up the middle a little bit, you know, where

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Speaker 1: the quarterback Obviously, I always talk about get the quarterback

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Speaker 1: office spot. I know, to me, sacks are misleading. He

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Speaker 1: does have seven quarterback hits, you know, and he also

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Speaker 1: has a fumble recovery or a forced fumble. But also,

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Speaker 1: you know, we talked about another guy needs to step up.

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Speaker 1: It can't just be Chandler Jones and the defensive line.

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Speaker 1: As you pointed out initially, they have more sacks than

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Speaker 1: the entire defensive line in sixteen games last year. So

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Speaker 1: you're getting from other areas, but clearly Chandler Jones has

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Speaker 1: to be that guy. And I like the front seven.

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Speaker 1: I like the rotation. I think they got some physicality

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Speaker 1: and grit there. You got guys like you know, Jordan

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Speaker 1: Phillips and Corey Peters and Jordan and Zach Allen. They're

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Speaker 1: making plays, but they also need to make plays, tackle

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Speaker 1: for losses and quarterback hits. Get him off his spot.

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Speaker 1: Don't let them get comfortable. And I thought Teddy Bridgewinter

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Speaker 1: was too comfortable in that game, Bird Gang. If you

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Speaker 1: here on this Tuesday edition of Cardinals Cover two, let's

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Speaker 1: tour the NFC West. How did the rest of the

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Speaker 1: division fair in Week four? And this is why there

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Speaker 1: is I would say a sense of urgency with the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals because as you look at the division right now,

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Speaker 1: everyone is at or above five hundred, the Seahawks leaving

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Speaker 1: the division at four, and oh they beat the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: twenty one twenty three, leading wire to wire just the

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Speaker 1: second time mget that the Seahawks are four and o

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Speaker 1: and franchise history the first time twenty thirteen when they

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. Yeah, and you know, obviously starts

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Speaker 1: with Russell Wilson. I mean, this guy's been in udine.

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Speaker 1: And the fact is that defensively they're not a you know,

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Speaker 1: a top ranked defense. The running game could be hit

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Speaker 1: and miss. A lot of it predicated on Russell Wilson.

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Speaker 1: Their offensive line has never been the greatest, but they

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Speaker 1: find ways to win. And they've they've gone the road.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's a lot. That's the longest trip in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, Seattle to Miami, and they go there and

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Speaker 1: you know, they didn't run away with the game, but

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Speaker 1: they end up winning thirty one twenty three. And we're

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Speaker 1: going to see the Seahawks in a few weeks here.

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Speaker 1: So I just think they got a balanced team. They're

645
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Speaker 1: not gonna will you, but at the end of the day,

646
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,160
Speaker 1: they get the job done. Wilson two more passing touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He has six team on the season, which ties Peyton

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Speaker 1: Manning's twenty thirteen mark for the most through a team's

649
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Speaker 1: first four games. And we actually finally saw a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a ground game by the Seahawks Chris Carson

651
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Speaker 1: two rushing touchdowns. He had one hundred all purpose yards,

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Speaker 1: eighty of those coming on the run. Yeah, and one

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Speaker 1: thing they have acquired over the last few years, including

654
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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf, is they got some weapons. I mean, Tyler

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Speaker 1: Lockett probably an underrated players in the shadow of Doug

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Speaker 1: Baldwin for all those years. You know, you look at

657
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Speaker 1: DK Metcalf and then you know, I also look at

658
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Speaker 1: Greg Olson, a great safety ned for Russell and he

659
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 1: had five coutches in that game. So they're spreading the

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Speaker 1: ball around. Will Disneys is one of their tight ends.

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Speaker 1: So I think they do a good job with balance,

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Speaker 1: and you know, you look at it. They ran the

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Speaker 1: ball twenty six times ninety eight yards, but they had

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Speaker 1: to throw it thirty four times three hundred and sixty yards.

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Speaker 1: But the way Wilson's playing, why not. We will all

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Speaker 1: see the Seahawks in action this weekend. They host the

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Speaker 1: Vikings on Sunday Night Football. The Rams second place in

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Speaker 1: the division. They are three and one. They beat the

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Speaker 1: still windless Giants seventeen to nine, an ice bounce back

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Speaker 1: from the loss of the Bills the week prior. Once

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Speaker 1: again the Rams, like the Seahawks, never trailed Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: two hundred yards passing and a touchdown overall, though the

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Speaker 1: Rams offense just two hundred and forty total yards. That's

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Speaker 1: why they only scored seventeen points. Yet when you hold

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Speaker 1: the opposition to under double digits, I like your chances. Yeah,

676
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Speaker 1: and you know Jerikoff twenty five or thirty two, two

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Speaker 1: hundred yards a touchdown. Now, running wise, they only average

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Speaker 1: about two point five yards twenty three carries fifty eight yards.

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00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: They go weren't it back by committee with Malcolm Brown Henderson.

680
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,280
Speaker 1: They also try to use Robert Woods in that area.

681
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Speaker 1: But you know, Cooper Cup's one of the better slot

682
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Speaker 1: receivers in football. He's always gonna put up numbers. But Woods,

683
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a you know, a Christian Kirk

684
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: where he can do a lot of different things. He

685
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: provides a lot of stuff to their offense. But you

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Speaker 1: know the fact that you know they were at home

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Speaker 1: after a long road trip to Buffalo. You know the

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Speaker 1: Giants are going to try to go in there and

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Speaker 1: pull off the upset. So I don't I really don't

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Speaker 1: look at the score. The fact is they continue to

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Speaker 1: win is impressive. Well, they won with their defense. Daniel

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00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: Jones was sacked five times, picked off once, and no

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Speaker 1: Giants touchdowns and three red zone trips. So and we

694
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Speaker 1: know that's a lot on Aaron Donald, but that is

695
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: a very good defense that could be getting their safety

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00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 1: Jordan Fuller back this week and also getting running back

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Speaker 1: Cam Acres back as well. Those two both miss the

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Speaker 1: game against the Giants because of injury. Yeah, it looks like,

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00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: you know, Golf, he's relying on the run game. But

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Speaker 1: you know, between you know, Tyler Higbee and Gerald Evert

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Speaker 1: and suing Cooper Cup and Robert Woods, it looks like

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Speaker 1: Golf's comfortable in the pocket where I think the first

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Speaker 1: couple of years he was benefiting from Sean McVeigh and

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Speaker 1: his headset. But if they could protect Golf and they

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Speaker 1: do a good job, he gets rid of the ball.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's better than I thought going in because I

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00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: think a couple of times he looks scared when he

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Speaker 1: was feeling any kind of pressure. And I do think

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Speaker 1: they got exposed in the Super Bowl. But you can

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Speaker 1: see Sean McVeigh is kind of more committed to run

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Speaker 1: on eleven personnel because of Cooper Cup, but he's not

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Speaker 1: afraid to go with twelve personnel because he's got two

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Speaker 1: tight ends that can stretch the field. Rams on the

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Speaker 1: road this week, starting a two game road trip, they

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Speaker 1: will play at Washington. Now that brings us to the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers. They are two and two. They were

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Speaker 1: losers on Sunday Night Football, falling to the Eagles twenty

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Speaker 1: five to twenty Interesting the forty nine Ers two and

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Speaker 1: oh on the road, oh and two at Levi's Stadium,

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Speaker 1: which you never want to see from any team, just

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Speaker 1: because it's always about protecting your home field, even if

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Speaker 1: there are fans or no fans, as the case is

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Speaker 1: right now with San Francisco. Well, you knew Philadelphia is

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Speaker 1: a desperate team and they still believe in their quarterback

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Speaker 1: in Carson Wentz. And you know, there was a nice

726
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,440
Speaker 1: little wave that Nick Mullins was riding there, and there

727
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: was speculation or they're going to try to get a

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Speaker 1: fourth round pick next year. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the game starts and he short passes the first guy

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Speaker 1: and then he misses Kyle Uschek on a wheelhouse route

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Speaker 1: which would have been a touchdown. And eventually they went

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Speaker 1: to CJ. Bethard, who obviously has been in the system

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Speaker 1: for a long time. He went fourteen for nineteen, So

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get Jimmy Garoppolo back. What can you say

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Speaker 1: about George Kittle, He's finally healthy. He was targeted fifteen times.

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Speaker 1: He caught fifteen passes for one hundred and eighty three yards.

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Speaker 1: He was a beast as long as ketch was thirty

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Speaker 1: eight yards and a touchdown. They're getting some production from

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Speaker 1: Jared McKinnon. They ran the ball twenty times. So Philadelphia

740
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: was desperate and that was a disappointing loss because they

741
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 1: were playing without their starting quarterback. They get Garoppolo back,

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Speaker 1: I think things will settle down for them. Yeah. Garoppolo

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Speaker 1: right now, still dealing with that high ankle spraying. Kyle

744
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: Shanahan would not commit to either Nick Mullins or CJ.

745
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,800
Speaker 1: Bethard when he was asked as far as a backup

746
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Speaker 1: quarterback is concerned. Mullins through two interceptions including a pick

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00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: six plus lost a fumble, certainly would be a great

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Speaker 1: benefits and a nice positive note if Garoppolo is able

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Speaker 1: to return. If not, then, of course there's a decision

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Speaker 1: that needs to be made. Whether it's Mullins or Bethard.

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Speaker 1: Quick note, Brandon Ayook the former as U Sunduble probably

752
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Speaker 1: with the highlight of the weekend, maybe hurtled his way

753
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Speaker 1: to a thirty eight yard touchdown run on a lateral

754
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: and people, if you didn't follow the draft, I mean,

755
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: there was so much talk about the top three receivers

756
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: of Henry Ruggs and Jerry Judy and he's throwing um

757
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: cde Lamb and Justin Johnson. I know the Cardinals like

758
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: because of Jerry Sullivan's ties, but according to Kyle Shanahan

759
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: and John Lynch, Brandon I Yuk was the number one

760
00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: wide receiver on their board and they decided to take him. Now,

761
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: he had some offseason hamstring injuries, but now you could

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00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 1: see the upside, and you know they're gonna get some

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Speaker 1: of the receivers back. They let Mohammed Sanugo during the week,

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Speaker 1: but Brandon I Yuk, I mean, I want to see

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Speaker 1: this guy play sixteen games. He's a stud out there.

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Speaker 1: Some guys are getting healthy, some guys are not. Zigianza,

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Speaker 1: who was just signed because of injuries along that defense,

768
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 1: suffered a torn biceps, and then Kigwan Williams with a

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Speaker 1: knee injury. Those two players added to injured reserve. It's

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Speaker 1: a good thing for the forty nine ers that the

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Speaker 1: ir rules were chained to just a minimum of three

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Speaker 1: games because they've had guys go on come off, But

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00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: they are certainly wearing out the injured reserve list right now. Yeah,

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00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: and that's and I know people are going to say, well,

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Speaker 1: they beat the Jets and the Giants. They had well,

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Speaker 1: both of those games were on the road and they

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Speaker 1: stayed at the Greenbrier in West Virginia. They thumped those teams.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they want to won the last second

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Speaker 1: field goals. So you know, I think they prefer to

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Speaker 1: have their injuries early in the season. But when you

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Speaker 1: lose guys like Nick Bosa for the entire season, those

782
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Speaker 1: are tough to overcome. Now, Craig, you start looking at

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Speaker 1: the conference as a whole when you look at the standings.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's feasible that you know, when you

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Speaker 1: look at the NFC right now, the Cardinals coming off

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Speaker 1: back to back losses, they've dropped to a nine seed.

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Speaker 1: We know the NFL in both conferences are going to

788
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: take seven teams this year. So they're kind of right

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Speaker 1: there with the Saints, who are two and two and

790
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: people think they're off to a slow start. Carolina obviously

791
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Speaker 1: has won a couple in a row. They're two and two.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco's two and two Cardinals one that had had tiebreaker,

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Speaker 1: and so those are the teams are dealing with right now, Washington, Dallas,

794
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Speaker 1: Minnesota to Detroit Giants in Atlanta, they're gonna have a

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Speaker 1: hard time claiming. So the Cardinals are in that striking distance.

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Speaker 1: But you gotta start winning football games. I gotta hand

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00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: it to you, m J. Four games in and we're

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Speaker 1: already looking at the playoffs seatings, well, just twenty five

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Speaker 1: percent of the seas, that's true. So then we come

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Speaker 1: back after, you know, fifty percent, and we'll see are

801
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 1: they a six or seven seed? Because that's encouraging. That

802
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: means you're winning football games. I feel a little bit

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00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: better today than yesterday, and maybe that will keep getting

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00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 1: better as we get closer and closer to Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the life in the NFL. You can't be

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00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: too high and you can't be too low. Monday obviously

807
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: you're disappointed, you know, Tuesday you kind of figure I

808
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: gotta get going again. Wednesday, it's onto the New York

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Speaker 1: Jets and we will touch on them both Wednesday, Thursday

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Speaker 1: and Friday. The Cardinals return to the practice field on Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and on that note, we will put a lid on

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Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Honday, proud

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Speaker 1: partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always, special thanks to

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Speaker 1: our executive producer Jim Amahundro or Mike Jarecki. I'm Greg

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Speaker 1: Rael Loeu. We'll talk to you next time here on

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