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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: after pleading guilty to accepting bribes in exchange for rigging

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it?

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Speaker 3: I did it because I was foolish.

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Speaker 2: Listen to how to Bribe a Judge on Revolver podcast

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Speaker 2: dot Com, Apple podcast, Stitcher, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 4: The John Annick and Kenny Florian Podcastle's Guy, John Annick,

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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian. He you're your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Oh, is it great to be here? Is it great

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Speaker 5: to be here? It's always great to be here. Hope

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Speaker 5: the start of your week is going well. It is Monday,

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Speaker 5: September twenty four to twenty eighteen, Episode one seventy two

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Speaker 5: of the anikin Florin Podcast.

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Speaker 6: No Ken Flow today, folks.

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Speaker 5: If you're on the video side, you can already see

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Speaker 5: that we have no Kenny Florian today. Something more important

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Speaker 5: going on evidently I don't know exactly what it is,

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Speaker 5: but you know what the rest of us are here

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Speaker 5: Ben Wassoor.

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Speaker 6: The crew Fox Sports. Everybody's here ready to go.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people on board today to talk about

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Speaker 5: a lot of different things. Will recap the UFC sal

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Speaker 5: Polo Show, UFC commentator Jimmy Smith back in the States

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Speaker 5: just called the fights in Brazil. Also going to get

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Speaker 5: his thoughts on some other things called Biebnermaco, mettav and

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Speaker 5: Connor McGregor. Of course, also the devastating reality that hit

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Speaker 5: the MMA world last week with the news that MMA

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Speaker 5: legend nor of whom he kid Yamamoto, had passed away,

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Speaker 5: and we'll try to sort of pay proper tribute over

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Speaker 5: the course of the show as best we can. The

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Speaker 5: greatest living American, Brian stand turns thirty eight years old today,

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Speaker 5: so we'll bring him on, wish him a happy birthday,

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Speaker 5: get his thoughts, ultimately a prediction from him too on

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Speaker 5: Bib Normaco, mettav and Connor McGregor, because that is less

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Speaker 5: than two weeks away.

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 5: Ray Longo coming up as well, and we'll see which

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Speaker 5: group of people Ray Longo can offend this week.

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Speaker 6: But joining me off the top today.

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Speaker 5: You've seen his work at MMA Fighting dot Com for

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Speaker 5: LEESPN dot com the Ringer, perhaps the most talented sports

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Speaker 5: writer that I have come across in my lifetime, the

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Speaker 5: man in the Hat Chuck Minen Hall filling in for

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Speaker 5: the Flow off the top of the show today. Good

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Speaker 5: day to you, sir.

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Speaker 3: How you doing good man? Well, that's some tough shoes

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Speaker 3: to fill, huh, jylenon for Kenfillow.

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Speaker 5: I'm filling in for Kenflow or being perhaps the most

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Speaker 5: talented sports writer that I've ever come across. You hate

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Speaker 5: to tell talented people that they have a gift, right,

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Speaker 5: but I got to think at some point in time

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Speaker 5: you recognize that maybe there was something special about a

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Speaker 5: words on paper in a way that maybe average men

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Speaker 5: like me cannot.

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Speaker 3: Oh, man, I appreciate that. John Obviously, working with you

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Speaker 3: back in the day at ESPN, that was really where

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I found your voice for sure.

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Speaker 5: I mean from the time that I could read I

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Speaker 5: I don't know how much news I did, but I

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Speaker 5: kept I've said it before on this show, I kept

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Speaker 5: microphone and pivoted. At that point, all right, a lot

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Speaker 5: And let's start, of course, with the biggest fight in

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Speaker 5: UFC history, at least to date, Goby Mimago metav and

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Speaker 5: Conor McGregor twelve days away. I know you've covered this

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Speaker 5: fight extensively, and you will leading up to showtime. The presser,

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Speaker 5: is out there at MMA fighting dot com. I will

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Speaker 5: refer to it as needed, but for those that haven't

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Speaker 6: At least we got something to chew on.

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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, I mean it was the first I mean,

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Speaker 3: and it was really interesting to see Connor McGregor have

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Speaker 3: that kind of presence there. I was pretty impressed with it,

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Speaker 3: He's created his own energy.

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Speaker 5: Right. We could probably spend fifteen minutes dissecting every utterance

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Speaker 5: impressive for me is that Connor McGregor, while well researched

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Speaker 3: No, I agree with you one hundred percent. And it's

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Speaker 3: the Proper twelve, or he you know, he says something

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Speaker 3: It's fun. It's fun to have what I consider now

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Speaker 6: Talk, yeah, I think the comparisons appropriate.

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Speaker 5: You injected the proper twelve virus whiskey into the conversation,

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Speaker 5: sation and such and so and so I'll go back

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Speaker 6: You have a bottle of this rightactly? Look at this

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Speaker 5: You know I was hoping it was going to be

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Speaker 6: I couldn't find it. I probably should have called first, but.

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Speaker 5: I think I have to go into the deep south

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Speaker 6: I know you've tested. I've tested it. At this point.

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Speaker 6: How is it you know what I actually have not.

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Speaker 3: I I've kept it sealed so far, but I was

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Speaker 6: Oh, you gotta do it. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And you can be sure next week, when we really

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Speaker 5: be drinking no matter the hour. You describe Kabib that

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Speaker 3: That's the beauty of it, right, because this is the

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Speaker 5: Well, and how you put it, you said more to

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Speaker 5: Mattow and give him a peaceful demeanor, right, just excited

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Speaker 5: against Connor McGregor. Now, pay per view naysayers and some

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Speaker 5: people are projecting north of two point five million pay

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Speaker 5: you that. But five point eight million on the Instagram followers, right,

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Speaker 3: was guys who you know, had deflected from or affected

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Speaker 3: from one gym or another and ended up with Glenn

436
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Speaker 3: Robinson and you know, in in Florida. And it was

437
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,200
Speaker 3: funny how they they were really a tight knit group.

438
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Speaker 3: And I felt like everybody at that time when they

439
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,399
Speaker 3: were running that they're at their strongest. That he was

440
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Speaker 3: a true benefactor. I thought he was a He was

441
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Speaker 3: a big boon for the sport and launched so many careers.

442
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Speaker 3: So very sad news man. I know it didn't end

443
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Speaker 3: quite the way, you know, in terms of the way

444
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Speaker 3: things went with the Black Zionians down the down the

445
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Speaker 3: stretch of time, but ultimately I think he still had

446
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Speaker 3: a lot of people who were good friends with him,

447
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Speaker 3: and uh and you hear it kind of in the

448
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,679
Speaker 3: outpouring from the from the from the people now what

449
00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,919
Speaker 3: he meant to their lives. So he's he certainly he

450
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:40,720
Speaker 3: was always good to me. He always answered, you know,

451
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Speaker 3: I tried whenever I tried to get in touch with him,

452
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:45,080
Speaker 3: he always was there. He'd always give me little insights

453
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Speaker 3: into what was going on. So I'll miss him, man.

454
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Speaker 3: He was one of the he was one of the

455
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Speaker 3: good guys in the game.

456
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Speaker 5: I think I think so too, and I think he

457
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Speaker 5: kind of felt perpetually misunderstood by the masses and maybe

458
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Speaker 5: that that perception became the reality of the way people him.

459
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Speaker 5: But yeah, he was a good egg and it's been

460
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Speaker 5: nice to see, certainly some of those former fighters come

461
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Speaker 5: out and say some nice things in the wake of

462
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Speaker 5: his passing. All right, Chuck Mindenhall on Twitter. You can

463
00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:12,399
Speaker 5: find him at Chuck Mindenhall. How easy is that? No

464
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,480
Speaker 5: underscore anything like that. You can see his work on

465
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Speaker 5: the ring or MMA Fighting dot com and as you

466
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 5: heard there in the teas from Chuck, maybe some more

467
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Speaker 5: enhanced coverage at the Ringer dot com leading up to

468
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Speaker 5: October sixth and the megafight between Habibnrmago Medov and Conor McGregor.

469
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Speaker 5: My man, my first choice to lead the show today.

470
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Speaker 5: Thank you for coming on. I appreciate it, sincerely.

471
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Speaker 3: Always an honor John. Thanks brother. There.

472
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Speaker 5: He is my former colleague, the great Chuck Mendenhall, And

473
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Speaker 5: we will get to kid Yamamoto, and of course we

474
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Speaker 5: just referenced Glenn Robinson there. I remember in twenty fifteen

475
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Speaker 5: after the Black Zillions beat American Top Team on the

476
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Speaker 5: Ultimate Fighter, Kamara Usman winning that final fight I believe

477
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Speaker 5: over Hyder Hassan interviewing Glenn inside the octagon, and this

478
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,200
Speaker 5: was really the crowning achievement for this man.

479
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Speaker 6: He had a lot of business success.

480
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Speaker 5: I believe he founded a tool company that ultimately lee

481
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,040
Speaker 5: resulted in some wealth that he parleyed into doing this

482
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 5: mixed martial arts thing. But Glenn really started this thing,

483
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 5: this MMA team, the Black Zillions, by accident right that

484
00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 5: there were some defections from American Top Team and he

485
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 5: was bringing guys together and eventually had big names like

486
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Speaker 5: Eddie Alvarez and Rashad Evans. Vitor Belfort was one of

487
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Speaker 5: the first guys to sort of represent the Black Silions.

488
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 5: Of course, Anthony Rumble Johnson, and he was a unifying

489
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Speaker 5: force for these guys for a while. Then there was

490
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Speaker 5: obviously a fallout that we're not going to dig too

491
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Speaker 5: deep into, but really sad news. And Glenn was just

492
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Speaker 5: so happy for Camorrow at that time and was just

493
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Speaker 5: so happy to have sort of gotten over that att hump,

494
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Speaker 5: even though at times things didn't go well for them

495
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Speaker 5: during that season. That was huge for Glenn Robinson and

496
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Speaker 5: his daughter Sam I know, has been out there on

497
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Speaker 5: social media and we're thinking about her and the rest

498
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Speaker 5: of the family is as they mourn the loss of

499
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Speaker 5: the great Glenn Robinson. All Right, a lot more to

500
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Speaker 5: get to today. Let us bring on the great Ray Longo.

501
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Speaker 4: It's now time for the Ray Longo minutes.

502
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Speaker 8: I'm gonna pin so.

503
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Speaker 9: That's what I want with.

504
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:07,359
Speaker 4: The Ray long a minute during the John nik and

505
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Speaker 4: Kenny Florian podcast.

506
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Speaker 5: You know, I never want to start with you on

507
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Speaker 5: a somber note, but as we do get older, I

508
00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 5: think one of the harsher realities is that a lot

509
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,640
Speaker 5: of people our age tend to pass away for one

510
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Speaker 5: reason or another. And I know I've experienced a lot

511
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Speaker 5: in my personal life and for MMA in the past week,

512
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Speaker 5: Ray h Glenn Robinson, who we were just talking about,

513
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Speaker 5: and of course Kid Yamamoto U, the Japanese mixed martial

514
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Speaker 5: arts legend. I don't know if you had any dealings

515
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Speaker 5: with Glenn or with Kid in the past, but uh,

516
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 5: you know, felt like a couple of body blows over

517
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Speaker 5: the last week since we were last on the air.

518
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

519
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Speaker 10: No, death is never never a good thing, and uh,

520
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Speaker 10: I don't know about your age. I think my age people, Yeah, yeah,

521
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,840
Speaker 10: kind of you know, that's a that's like get carried away, John,

522
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 10: You're still in the prime of life. Uh, you know,

523
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Speaker 10: I'll take seventh I'm in the seventh inning. It's not

524
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Speaker 10: looking good. But I say, kid Yamamoto, man, I mean,

525
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,040
Speaker 10: just too young to go. That's the first thing that

526
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 10: was That one actually hit harder because just when when

527
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 10: when people are young, that really bothers me, you know,

528
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Speaker 10: when you know, I'm going through my mom now. But

529
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Speaker 10: she's had a really good, full life and she's at

530
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Speaker 10: peace with everything.

531
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Speaker 3: Man.

532
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Speaker 10: She's really made me see how you know, there's some

533
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Speaker 10: grace and dying. She's just ready to you know, to

534
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 10: check out, and she's you know, still having a great time.

535
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Speaker 10: Her mind is good, her body's bed. I don't want

536
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Speaker 10: to make it about my mother, but I'm saying that

537
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Speaker 10: I try to talk to her every day and go

538
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Speaker 10: over and see her, and she's really I mean, it's

539
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Speaker 10: just it is what it is.

540
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Speaker 3: Man.

541
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Speaker 10: It's a it's definitely a different look for me to

542
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 10: see that. But uh, you know, I didn't know Glenn

543
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Speaker 10: Robinson and uh but again he wasn't that old either,

544
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Speaker 10: and that kind of thinks.

545
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Speaker 3: Man.

546
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Speaker 10: It's just you know, because you do leave behind you know,

547
00:23:57,040 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 10: kids that are younger and sometimes don't have the well,

548
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 10: you know, they're not have the maturity to deal with it.

549
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 10: And I just hope it doesn't affect everybody and they

550
00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 10: recognize that it is a part of life and just

551
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,760
Speaker 10: to move on and live in their honor and do

552
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Speaker 10: the right thing.

553
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

554
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Speaker 5: Well, no, I'm glad you sort of brought your mother

555
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Speaker 5: up because that's very relatable to this audience that swears

556
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Speaker 5: by you. Although I know you've come under attack recently

557
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 5: for some of your comments. I love how you're just

558
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,640
Speaker 5: not afraid to let it ripman, you know, and stay

559
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,399
Speaker 5: true to who you are. You miss one of the

560
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 5: most epic NFL Sundays of all time. But I digress

561
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 5: in terms of Ebnmago metav and Connor McGregor, and we're

562
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Speaker 5: gonna spend probably the entire Ray Long Goo minute next

563
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Speaker 5: week on this fight and get your final prediction. But

564
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Speaker 5: do you feel like people are talking about this fight

565
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Speaker 5: that when you're going out and pumping gas, people are

566
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Speaker 5: asking you about this fight. To what extent has this

567
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Speaker 5: fight resonated with sort of the casual American masses leading

568
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Speaker 5: up to October sixth, at least from your standpoint.

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Speaker 10: I mean, from my standpoint, the answer is no. I

570
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 10: mean it's not. I mean when McGregor forught Mayweather, there

571
00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 10: was way more. You know, what do you think is

572
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 10: gonna happen From the casual fan? I mean, I think

573
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 10: anybody who's into MMA is definitely buying this fight. I

574
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Speaker 10: don't know, I'm not feeling it, but this, you know,

575
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Speaker 10: I could be perfectly wrong. I'm sure the fight's gonna

576
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 10: do big numbers, but I'm not hearing it like I've

577
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Speaker 10: heard other fights. Definitely not. But you know, I mean

578
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Speaker 10: I was. I had a crazy couple of weeks, so

579
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Speaker 10: I haven't really been around too much either.

580
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Speaker 6: Sure, no, I think that's fair. Did you watch any

581
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Speaker 6: of that press conference.

582
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Speaker 10: I saw about three quarters of it. Man, I thought

583
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 10: it was just fucking bonkers, you know, But I mean, yeah,

584
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Speaker 10: I gotta tell you, I mean, I look the guy.

585
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 10: There was a stroke of genius in there. Because I

586
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 10: gotta tell you, I like to be I think the

587
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 10: guys stand up dude. I think he shoots from the

588
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 10: hip guys type of guys that I really like, always

589
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,360
Speaker 10: enjoy seeing I might. I'm not saying I know him well,

590
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:04,200
Speaker 10: but always nice to say hellodu, And I feel this

591
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 10: sincerity there and he's a good dude. And man did McGregor.

592
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 10: I think Conna knew that he couldn't get under this

593
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 10: guy's skin for the fight. So what does he do.

594
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 10: He takes a good guy and he attacks viciously the

595
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 10: people he's surrounded by. Like I mean, he came in prepared.

596
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Speaker 10: I mean, the biggest loser in this thing is that

597
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 10: poor Ali. I don't even want to say poor, but

598
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,879
Speaker 10: I know Ali. I found out things about him I

599
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,479
Speaker 10: didn't even know, and I know the guy, so I

600
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Speaker 10: think he comes out. I mean, he got slaughtered in

601
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 10: this thing because you know, I don't think anybody likes

602
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 10: a snitch, you know, and this guy put everything out there,

603
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 10: and then the thing with his son. I didn't even

604
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Speaker 10: know he I don't even know, you know anything, you know.

605
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:50,640
Speaker 10: So he attacks the credibility of the people he's around,

606
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 10: which could create some doubt as to you know, guilt

607
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 10: by association type of shit that I don't buy into.

608
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Speaker 10: But man, did he come prepared with some shit with

609
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 10: even all the the oie gonks and all of the

610
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 10: other crap and crazy crazy that he did his homework.

611
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 10: So he's not stupid, you know what I mean, whether

612
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 10: it's he's well a good tactic or a band tactic,

613
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 10: don't He's not going to get sued for libel, you

614
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 10: know what I mean. He's not going to get sued

615
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 10: for defamation of character or whatever, you know, whatever would

616
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 10: be the legal recourse on that, I guarantee is so crazy,

617
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 10: crazy crazy. I don't know what effect they'll have on

618
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 10: the fight, but man, it was. It was bonkers.

619
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Speaker 6: John h He's good man. You know.

620
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 5: He parlays that preparation into performance too, right, I mean,

621
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 5: he has all his cards there and the way he

622
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,560
Speaker 5: uses them and seamlessly works everything in.

623
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Speaker 10: Uh.

624
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Speaker 5: He is one of a com man and we're certainly

625
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 5: lucky to have him. But that gives me a little indicator.

626
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 5: The fact that you sat down and watched forty five

627
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Speaker 5: minutes of a press conference. You know, Ray Longo's got

628
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 5: a lot of irons in the fire, you got a

629
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Speaker 5: lot of things going on. The fact that you sat

630
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Speaker 5: down and gave that a half an hour of your

631
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Speaker 5: time tells me a little something.

632
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Speaker 6: Leading up to October six, all right, I have an opportunity.

633
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Speaker 10: But I don't want to I don't want to write

634
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 10: I don't want to rain on that comment, Joan. But

635
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 10: I was driving to Atlantic City for a fight, so

636
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 10: I was in the car, so that's when I listened

637
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 10: to Would I have listened to it otherwise, probably, But

638
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 10: I mean it was just like, let's get something to do.

639
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 10: It's a three hour ride, so you know whatever. But

640
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 10: you're right though. Anyway, I got I got skin in

641
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 10: the game either way because Al for Kabeb, and you know,

642
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 10: I think there's an interesting fight. Let's see. You know,

643
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 10: he brought up ballan a you be a real estate agent.

644
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 10: You know which book was hysterical, you know what I mean.

645
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 10: But uh now he's got to back it up. You know,

646
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 10: he made the comments, let's see if he could do

647
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 10: better than that. I say, I say unequivocally no.

648
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, well I think we know which way you're going

649
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 6: next week.

650
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, I would imagine there's heightened interest for you

651
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Speaker 5: in this fight because of what Al was able to

652
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Speaker 5: accomplish in those twenty five minutes against Kubie, most recently

653
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Speaker 5: in April. So all right, we'll get a prediction from

654
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Speaker 5: you next week. Also, An opportunity for you to win

655
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Speaker 5: five hundred dollars. You got to give me your answer

656
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Speaker 5: next week, okay, five hundred dollars. See, I don't know

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Speaker 5: how long Santa Can Floran podcast is going to be around,

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Speaker 5: so we're raising the stakes. Okay, if you can correctly,

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Speaker 5: if you can correctly predict Ali A Quinta's next opponent

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Speaker 5: by the end of next week's show, five hundred bucks.

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Speaker 10: I already have the answer to that, but I'll let

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Speaker 10: I'll see if I can say it next week.

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Speaker 5: But all right, So okay, so you wow, all right,

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Speaker 5: because the reason I bring it up is because you

665
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666
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667
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668
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Speaker 5: Quinta that at least maybe a verbal agreement might even

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Speaker 10: Well, this is like a poker game. You're buying that

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Speaker 10: I have a straight flush or I have a good hand.

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Speaker 5: Right now, might be Well, let's see if you can

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Speaker 5: get clearance by next Monday, exact, and then an opportunity

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Speaker 5: thank you for the time. We will talk to you

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Speaker 6: Thank you very good.

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Speaker 5: To the guest line now and joining us a dear

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Speaker 5: friend of mine. We're happy to have him. Pretty fine, analyst,

714
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Speaker 5: I might add as well. Just off the boat back

715
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Speaker 5: for Brazil. As he continues his globe trotting in his

716
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Speaker 5: first year as UFC commentator, the Great Jimmy Smith now

717
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Speaker 5: joins me live from the Great State of California.

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Speaker 6: We got video, my man, welcome home. It's good to

719
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Speaker 6: see you.

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Speaker 7: How you doing, my man? The Great State mans A

721
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Speaker 7: great introduction. I gotta say, I thought I was fine,

722
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Speaker 7: but to hear you say it, man is awesome.

723
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Speaker 5: Yeah fine, probably not as strong enough adjective. Nice work, man,

724
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Speaker 5: So do you hit that? Did you just get back

725
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Speaker 5: this morning or last night?

726
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Speaker 6: Have the traveling one in.

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Speaker 7: The morning one this morning? I got back so yeah,

728
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Speaker 7: two seven hour flights so yeah, man, today's gonna be

729
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Speaker 7: a lot of resting.

730
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Speaker 10: All right.

731
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Speaker 5: Well, I appreciate you burning it at all ends and

732
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Speaker 5: waking up early for us. As you know, I've been

733
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 5: to Brazil for more than twenty live UFC events. I

734
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 5: know you're starting to dip your toes in the water.

735
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Speaker 5: I know you've been there in the past obviously and

736
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Speaker 5: your mixed martial arts training and where your life has

737
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 5: taken you. But overall assessment of sal Polo and how

738
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 5: things went for you over the weekend, it was awesome, man.

739
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 7: It was great. Fans were into it, everybody was really excited.

740
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Speaker 7: People on the street were really jazzed about it. And

741
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 7: the Brazilians did well. I mean, the local guys did

742
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: well and the crowd had a lot to cheer about.

743
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 7: Of course, you know, little Nog got incredible ovation. Tell

744
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 7: us lay just going out the way he did on

745
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Speaker 7: the win over. Actor Lombard. So it's a lot of

746
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 7: the emotional stuff that the fans were into. That's what

747
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 7: they came to see, man, and it worked out great.

748
00:32:58,320 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 7: It was fantastic.

749
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Speaker 5: So a lot of different things I want to get

750
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 5: to with you. And I think sometimes in these UFC

751
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 5: main events, the storyline sometimes becomes the guy who didn't win,

752
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 5: and there are a lot of angles to attack Eric

753
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 5: Anders accepting this fight and the ramifications of that. But

754
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 5: can we talk about Thiago Santos for a second and

755
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 5: the body of work that he's put together over the

756
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 5: last two years. He's won six of seven go to

757
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 5: guy for the UFC, you know, made weight another time

758
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 5: that we're not even talking about as a backup opponent.

759
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 5: I just think the world of this guy and Eric

760
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 5: Anders is a tough out and I thought my head

761
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: to in a showcase performance for him really put it to.

762
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Speaker 7: Him, and he really did. And it's not just what

763
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Speaker 7: he's done in terms of opponents in the runs and

764
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Speaker 7: how busy he's been over the last couple of years. Man,

765
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 7: he has exciting fights. He's the guys just not capable

766
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 7: of having a fight that is an exciting, great and

767
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 7: medium range. He switches dances a lot, he throws a

768
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 7: lot of power shots. So is everything both a seasoned

769
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 7: fan of the UFC and a newcomer wants to see,

770
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 7: is that, you know, this monster slinging bombs and trying

771
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 7: to take guys out of everybody loves everybody's stands. And

772
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 7: I think what he did a great job with for

773
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 7: the San Pablo Show was focusing on his community works

774
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 7: stuff like that, working with kids. I mean, he's an

775
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 7: easy guy to like, is an easy guy to get behind.

776
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 7: So all the way around, he's fantastic.

777
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, don't let them Ahza tattoo fool you. There's really

778
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 5: a nice guy in there, you know.

779
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

780
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 5: So in terms of Eric Anders, and I know some

781
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 5: people are maybe sick of us talking about the college

782
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 5: football accolades in the two thousand and nine National Championship

783
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 5: with Alabama, But this guy's a fighters fighter and he

784
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 5: may not realize the UFC Championship, But I would imagine you,

785
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 5: as a former MMA fighter yourself, have a lot of

786
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 5: respect for everything that the last eight to ten days

787
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: held for Eric Anders.

788
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Speaker 7: One hundred percent. I mean, he came in to fight,

789
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 7: he didn't have to take he didn't need it, and

790
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 7: it's at a different weight class. Two of five, going

791
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 7: into hostel territory and last minute, and he went out

792
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 7: there and did it. The biggest myth or the biggest lie,

793
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 7: how do you want to put it in mixed marshal

794
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 7: Warts is while I'm always in shape, you're not always

795
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 7: in fight shape. There's a big difference. It's just like

796
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 7: the NFL. Just like the they're designed to peak your

797
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 7: work at a certain time, for a certain day, for

798
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 7: a certain guy. And he didn't have that camp. And

799
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 7: I think in this fight it showed a little bit

800
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 7: because at the you know, he was just out of

801
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 7: gas at the end, exhausted. And I guess the guy,

802
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 7: uh likes Santos, Who's gonna make you work so hard.

803
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 7: He's not gonna give you any breaks, He's not gonna

804
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 7: let you implement his game. He got a couple of takedowns,

805
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 7: couldn't hold him down. It's a guy you need a

806
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 7: lot of gas to take on. And I think in

807
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 7: the end he really didn't have it. But you know,

808
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,760
Speaker 7: as we said, Uh Santos is a tough out for anybody,

809
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 7: and Anders did the best he could under the circumstances.

810
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 7: He was very candid about this being a stop to

811
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 7: a five. This isn't my natural weight class. I don't

812
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 7: plan to stay here. I don't plan to put my

813
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 7: flag here. So he went into a difficult situation with

814
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,400
Speaker 7: a nothing to lose attitude. I thought, put on a

815
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 7: great fight and down at five. I think that's where

816
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 7: he really belongs and he can be he can do

817
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 7: a lot of damage a twenty five.

818
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: You have see commentator Jimmy Smith with us here on

819
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 5: the annak Emplorian podcast. You mentioned sort of a nothing

820
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 5: to lose attitude, and I think that is the rub

821
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 5: for a lot of people when it comes to Eric

822
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: and did he actually have nothing to lose? You know

823
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 5: when he took that fight with Lioto Machida in belaying

824
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 5: an exciting opportunity for him. But some suggested at eleven

825
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 5: and zero or so at the time that maybe he

826
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 5: was biting off more than he could chew. Some managers

827
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 5: would have pause throwing a guy into sal polo up

828
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,360
Speaker 5: a division against Thiago Santos in terms of career trajectory.

829
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to put you on the spot,

830
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 5: you know, to throw his manager, Jason House under the

831
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 5: bus because he has a fighter I know you don't

832
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 5: give a shit about that. But he has a fighter

833
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 5: in Eric Anders who trains, you know, to be ready

834
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 5: forty five weeks a year and is going to put

835
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 5: himself out there for the next one of these. So

836
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 5: as manager, I mean, do you have an obligation to

837
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 5: try to get a guy on a championship trajectory or

838
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 5: to just take each guy on a case by case basis.

839
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:48,720
Speaker 7: Here's one of the things in my personal my personal

840
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 7: fight trajectory. You know, for any fighter, I think it's

841
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 7: important to get if not a loss, that really challenging

842
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 7: fight in your first ten or fifteen fights. I don't

843
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 7: think you want to go fifty people who have gotten

844
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 7: over like ten and oh, fifteen and h In the

845
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 7: Big Show, they talk about the pressure of being undefeated

846
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 7: and now not knowing how to deal with a loss

847
00:37:09,640 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 7: and the ability to come back. You have to kind

848
00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 7: of let your guy know you're gonna have tough opportunities.

849
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 7: You have to roll the dice. It might not work

850
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 7: out your way. You get back on the horse, you

851
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 7: get back on the gym, you get there and win.

852
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 7: It's not you know, it's not the end of the world.

853
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 7: Losing a tough fight to Leoti Machida by decision in Brazil.

854
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 7: It's the kind of thing you just move past, and

855
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 7: you're if your guy can't move past that, he doesn't

856
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,840
Speaker 7: deserve to be in the championship conversation. He doesn't deserve

857
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 7: to be amongst the leader. If you can't come back

858
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 7: from a loss and learn from it, you're in the

859
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 7: wrong sport. So there are those times talk about no

860
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 7: management getting you gut ready in an era of in

861
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 7: the UFC, that that's become kind of a super fight

862
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 7: era where you wait for that one big opportunity to

863
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 7: make ten million bucks. The fighters that want to stay

864
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 7: busy and want to keep fighting and want to keep learning,

865
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 7: I think are becoming appreciated by the fans. He's not

866
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 7: waiting around for that one opportunity to fight that one

867
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,359
Speaker 7: guy that might get me in line for table shott.

868
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:05,439
Speaker 7: He's fighting anybody in front of him, and I think

869
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 7: fans appreciate that kind of mentality. In today's dan Ara.

870
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 5: Dan as No, I think it's beautifully put and I

871
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: think the promoter appreciates it as well. And Jessica on

872
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 5: joj Israel, lot of Sonia, some other names I would

873
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 5: inject into that mix of fighters that always stay ready,

874
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 5: and you know Atasania could have avoided a guy like

875
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:21,760
Speaker 5: Derek bruntaid.

876
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 6: He wants to take on all comers.

877
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 5: You know, let me go through the top ten and

878
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 5: try to get there on my own. All right, a

879
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 5: few other things on Brazil. I don't want to spend

880
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 5: too much time on Salpaolo, but Henn and Burrow, it's

881
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: crazy how the narrative has changed for this guy. And

882
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 5: we could talk about a lot of fighters. You know,

883
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 5: Jake Ellenberger most recently right at one point twenty nine

884
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 5: and six retires thirty one and fifteen, right, Rashad Evans.

885
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 5: The whole narrative on a career can change with how

886
00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 5: you go out. Hen and Burrow at one point thirty

887
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 5: two and one now thirty four and seven, missed weight

888
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 5: famously this weekend on the wrong end of a split

889
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 5: decision here against Andre Yule. You were there on the

890
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 5: ground and saw Paulo rough fight week for the Baron.

891
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, there are two signs when and I

892
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 7: hate to say this but I have to, when a

893
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 7: fighter is done, there are generally two signs. Number one

894
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 7: is don't have a chin anymore. They can't take the shot.

895
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 7: They take punches that would not have even stopped them,

896
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 7: you know, one of even given pause in the beginning

897
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 7: of their career, and they get rocked and hurt by

898
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 7: those punches. The second one, which is a little more

899
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 7: subtle and in many ways a little more dangerous. They

900
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 7: can't pull the trigger. And I saw a guy in

901
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 7: Hannon Barrow who couldn't pull the trigger, who had him

902
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 7: put him in front of him, hands down, obviously working

903
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 7: the outside, a fast, athletic guy, but this is a

904
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 7: guy who in his prime never hesitated. He was like

905
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 7: a tiger shark man. He saw vulnerability and he just

906
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 7: went right after you. And that inability to kind of

907
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 7: get his offense going, that's the sign of a fighter

908
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 7: who just who's confidence is there, whose timing isn't there.

909
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 7: You know, probably the most instances Pacio de la Joya

910
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 7: and dale Hood didn't throw any punches. He was just,

911
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 7: you know, just standing there, and that looked like Hennon

912
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 7: Brow is kind kind of deer in the headlights. It's

913
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 7: the success he had was on top with his jiu jitsu,

914
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 7: which you know he's always gonna be be good at that,

915
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 7: But when it came to the stand up. That guy

916
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 7: who just ripped the head off heads off opponents in

917
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 7: his prime was not there and and and that was

918
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 7: that was the disappointing point is you know people talk

919
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 7: about the Evan Dunham fight and dude, dude went out

920
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 7: on a shield. You know, it took it took an

921
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,479
Speaker 7: eat the ribs and that was it. Hennen Brow got

922
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,799
Speaker 7: caught looking. He struck out, not swinging. And and that's

923
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 7: a tough thing to watching a guy who's as good

924
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 7: as Henny.

925
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 5: Burrow, right, and that's bizarro barraw. I mean that just

926
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 5: flies on the face of everything that he was in

927
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 5: his prime. All right, last thing, uh, because you are

928
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 5: a Carlson Gracie.

929
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 6: I believe fourth degree Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt? Is

930
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,200
Speaker 6: that accurate? Did I get that right?

931
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I say it one more time.

932
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 5: I hope I got that right. Carlson Gracie, fourth agree

933
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 5: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt?

934
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 6: Is that accurate?

935
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 10: But me?

936
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 6: Yes, black belts so.

937
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, I didn't know how many are. Sorry,

938
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 5: So the Carlson Gracie Brazilian black belt. Jimmy just witnessed

939
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: Charles Olavera record his eleventh submission in the UFC, and

940
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 5: we have watched this guy grow up. Made his UFC debut,

941
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 5: I think he was twenty years old. I don't know

942
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 5: if I'm asking you to put into context what he

943
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 5: has done, but when you talk about the all time

944
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 5: great submission guys in the UFC, this is a guy

945
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: who's going to be firmly in that convo.

946
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 7: Has to be there, has to be there one underdercent.

947
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 7: And what I what I love about this performance is,

948
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 7: you know I said that on air, is that he's

949
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 7: so talented and so good, but he's had trouble stringing

950
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 7: together performances in a row. Well, he'll look fantastic in

951
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 7: one and then and then have a setback in another.

952
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 7: And uh. The the amazing thing about that fight was

953
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: he was so consistent that there were probably you know,

954
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 7: I thought Iago's fought a great fight on the feet,

955
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 7: nice shark combinations.

956
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: Uh.

957
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 7: Olivera never panicked. He never went for any takedowns that

958
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 7: weren't there. He never made any mistakes to get into

959
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:02,279
Speaker 7: the ground, He never threw any big punches to kind

960
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 7: of let Yao's land that knockout shot. He stayed composed

961
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 7: long enough to get the job done. And I think

962
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 7: that's even more impressive than the finish. I mean, he's fine.

963
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 7: I was talking to his young's coaches are Kenny Johnson

964
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 7: and Jeevas Santana to one great wrestler, one great jiu

965
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,319
Speaker 7: jitsu guy, and uh I was talking to him in

966
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 7: the cage as we're standing there and Kenny goes, man,

967
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 7: OLIVERA takes your back, It's done. I'm like, yeah, nobody

968
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 7: gets out of that. So the finish was great, but

969
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 7: it was more the fact that he stayed so composed

970
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 7: waiting for that takedown, didn't make the common mistake we've

971
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 7: seen him make, and you've seen him make in other

972
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 7: fights where he seems to have it, you know, he

973
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 7: seems to have it done. And I thought he had.

974
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 7: I love Paul Felder. I thought he had Paul.

975
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 9: Felder three or four times Paul Felder came back and

976
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 9: beat him.

977
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 7: He didn't make those kind of mental mistakes. So when

978
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 7: he take his talent and add a little bit more

979
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:51,240
Speaker 7: consistency and octagon IQ, that dude's hard to be for anybody.

980
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, it was fun to watch you from here

981
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 5: in South Florida. You did a great job on that show.

982
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 5: I know you did it somewhat with a heavy heart.

983
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 5: I saw your Instagram posts after the passing of Kid Yamamoto,

984
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 5: and I know the MMA historian, and you took this

985
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 5: one pretty hard man, you know. I remember staying up late,

986
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 5: obviously to watch this guy in his prime when I

987
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: was just getting into mixed martial arts. And this is

988
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 5: a guy that really made an impact on a lot

989
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: of people. There are a lot of highlights that you

990
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 5: can reference, but just a guy who was must see

991
00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:21,840
Speaker 5: television really every step of the way in his fighting prime,

992
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 5: and a huge loss for the MMA world.

993
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,359
Speaker 7: It almost feels like the hard part about this is is,

994
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 7: you know, the people who didn't appreciate the sport maybe five, six,

995
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 7: ten years ago. He's almost the end of an era

996
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 7: in a sense. He was so much a part of

997
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: Japanese MMA and so much a pioneer and a weight

998
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 7: classes you know, I don't say taken for granted, but

999
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 7: it is almost like, oh yeah, I'm on forty five.

1000
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 7: There was a time when that weight class didn't exist

1001
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 7: the United States, and it was overlooked in the United

1002
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 7: States in my opinion, and Kid Yamamoto was kind of

1003
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,120
Speaker 7: the flag bearer of that division. When Japanese mma, it

1004
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 7: was really outstanding and really fun to watch. And the

1005
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 7: death of kid yam Moto as hard as his person

1006
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 7: and what a great guy he was and bothered everything.

1007
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 7: It's also almost like the end of an era where

1008
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 7: the Japanese ran that weight class and you have to

1009
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 7: do the japan really fight the best in weight classes,

1010
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 7: and he was a symbol of that, and to lose

1011
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 7: that really really sucks as an old school fan person.

1012
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 5: And it seemed like maybe he was diagnosed with cancer

1013
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen, but then sort of announced it to

1014
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 5: the world in August, and then you know, his demise

1015
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,879
Speaker 5: came shortly thereafter. But I thought you tributed him nicely man,

1016
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 5: as only you could do. And you know, hopefully, well

1017
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,840
Speaker 5: I don't just say hopefully. His is certainly a legacy

1018
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 5: that will live.

1019
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:41,879
Speaker 6: On, all right.

1020
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,720
Speaker 5: I'll let you go on this Pittsburgh Steelers Monday Night Football.

1021
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 5: It's September twenty fourth, and the AFC, well, I don't

1022
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,080
Speaker 5: want to say the favorites, but one of the AFC

1023
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 5: favorites going in has yet to get a win. I

1024
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 5: think you and I need to bet on this tonight.

1025
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 5: It's a pick him game essentially Tampa Bay and Pittsburgh.

1026
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 6: Would you like to put something on the line here,

1027
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 6: my friend?

1028
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 7: All right, well, okay, let's are you in Vegas. You're

1029
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 7: in Vegas four obviously for the big fight. You're staying out.

1030
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 10: Till till Sunday?

1031
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1032
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:12,759
Speaker 10: Yeah?

1033
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 7: Are you staying out till till Sunday?

1034
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 6: Yes?

1035
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 10: All right?

1036
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 7: How about how about meddle of your choice on Sunday

1037
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 7: in Vegas?

1038
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 3: Buddy?

1039
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 7: What do you say?

1040
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 5: Let's do it. Let's do it. Go Buccaneers. And if

1041
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 5: you don't know, Jimmy Smith has a dog named Steelers.

1042
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 5: So even though this is a life yeah, he's a

1043
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 5: lifelong Californian, but he's a Pittsburgh Steelers fan and we

1044
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:31,759
Speaker 5: love him for it.

1045
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: Hey, yeah, Lake show there right there. That's good. That's

1046
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 6: a good shirt for you.

1047
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 5: Hey, uh, sorry, we didn't have time to get too

1048
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 5: deep into Kabeb and Connor. We'll talk to you on

1049
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 5: the other side of that fight. Sincerely, appreciate your time,

1050
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: my man. Great stuff in Seal Polo and uh I

1051
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 5: will see you October sixth, if not sooner.

1052
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 7: My friend can't wait to see you there, buddy.

1053
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 5: All right, there, he is UFC commentator Jimmy Smith with

1054
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 5: us here on the Anak and Florian podcast and really

1055
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 5: wanted to actually get his expectations for Tony Ferguson's return

1056
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 5: as well, because I think one guy that is going

1057
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 5: to be shortchanged leading up to October sixth, the z el

1058
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 5: Kukui who returns against Anthony Showtime Pettison the comin event

1059
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 5: against UFC two twenty nine. But that is just a

1060
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 5: huge fight and it's shaping up is one of the

1061
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 5: biggest nights, if not the biggest night in UFC history,

1062
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,359
Speaker 5: and I'm excited to be in the building. You know,

1063
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 5: it's fights like this that really get the blood boiling.

1064
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 5: So we will see how it goes for Connor McGregor,

1065
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,479
Speaker 5: for Eibnrmago Metap. All of that can flow back next

1066
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,040
Speaker 5: week and we'll get a prediction from him as well.

1067
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 6: Back out to the guest line. Now it is time

1068
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 6: to take a stand. He's now time to take a

1069
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 6: stand with the all American. Brian Stands on the Anakin

1070
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 6: Flowing In podcast.

1071
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 5: And joining us on what is his thirty eighth birthday,

1072
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 5: the greatest living American Brian Stan, Happy birthday, my man.

1073
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,720
Speaker 5: You don't strike me as a guy who loves birthdays,

1074
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 5: but we wish you very happy thirty eighth.

1075
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I appreciate it, buddy.

1076
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll be You know, I don't remember the last

1077
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:05,959
Speaker 8: time I celebrate ah, but you know I should actually start,

1078
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 8: maybe for two years, celebrate them before I hit the

1079
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 8: big four to zero and and then I officially become old.

1080
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 5: I guess it's true because I just turned forty and

1081
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 5: I hate birthdays to begin with, right, and forty was

1082
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,759
Speaker 5: a tough one, man like, there was nothing easy about it.

1083
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 5: You really feel old, and I appreciate you not mincing

1084
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,359
Speaker 5: your words there and telling me how old I am.

1085
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 5: You also don't strike me as a guy who would

1086
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 5: respond too well to a surprise party, Like if all

1087
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 5: of a sudden there was a surprise party tonight, so

1088
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 5: hopefully nobody has one and the works for you.

1089
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 8: Oh well, I could tell you there's no way if

1090
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,840
Speaker 8: he hasn't been the works for me, I'm going home to.

1091
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 5: Out so uh that part of the impetus, part of

1092
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 5: the impetus for getting you on today was to talk

1093
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,280
Speaker 5: about Kabeb and Connor. It's also, of course your birthday,

1094
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 5: but it has been over a year, just over a

1095
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 5: year since you called your last UFC fight, So I

1096
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 5: just want to start there. I'm sure at times you're

1097
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,879
Speaker 5: too busy to miss it, but at other times, maybe

1098
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 5: when you're sitting around watching fight, you sort of wish

1099
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 5: you were, you know, still in the game.

1100
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 9: Oh absolutely, you know.

1101
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:08,439
Speaker 8: I mean it's yeah, there there's been conversations here there.

1102
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 9: Could I fit it in? Could I do this? Because

1103
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 9: I do that.

1104
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 8: It's really tough, you know, my current role, I am

1105
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 8: extremely busy, but man, you can't help but miss a

1106
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 8: job like that. I mean, there is no there was

1107
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 8: no doubt. I think everybody around me, everybody who heard

1108
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 8: me call fights, knew it that. I absolutely loved it.

1109
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 8: You know, at the end of the day, it was

1110
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 8: it was pulling me away from my family. I was

1111
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,240
Speaker 8: traveling a little too much, and you know, it did

1112
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 8: the switch to a new job. It didn't matter in

1113
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 8: that regard. But looking back on it now, you never

1114
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:39,439
Speaker 8: want to close the door completely. You know, I'm only

1115
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:41,919
Speaker 8: thirty eight. You never know what could happen, and maybe

1116
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 8: four or five years from now, I'd like to go

1117
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 8: back to doing some television. I definitely miss it. Love

1118
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,760
Speaker 8: doing the job. And really, of course, you know, misworking

1119
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 8: with you. You and I had you know, an awesome chemistry.

1120
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,320
Speaker 8: We had a lot of fun exploring these different countries

1121
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 8: we went to. We made a lot of close friends

1122
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 8: with these fighters and coaches and so it was.

1123
00:48:59,120 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 9: It was a great environment.

1124
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 7: Man.

1125
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 8: I had a good time. It was like family. When

1126
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 8: I left that role, it was like leaving a piece

1127
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 8: of family.

1128
00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 10: Man.

1129
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 9: That was tough.

1130
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, no it is.

1131
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 5: And I know you called one by one a lot

1132
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:11,399
Speaker 5: of members of the staff, and I know they appreciated that.

1133
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,840
Speaker 5: And a show doesn't go by where someone isn't asking

1134
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 5: me about you. So there's no denying the impact that

1135
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 5: you made. How close are you to the sport in

1136
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 5: terms of following the day to day headlines like when

1137
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,440
Speaker 5: this whole Jackson Wink Mma thing starts to bubble and

1138
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 5: Donald Serni and Diego Sanchez are getting into it and

1139
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 5: the Mike winkle John backdrop. I mean, I'd imagine a

1140
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,959
Speaker 5: headline like that at least still crosses the COO's desk.

1141
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 8: I would tell you that I tend to on a

1142
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,240
Speaker 8: lunch breaker at night. I will look at the major

1143
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 8: websites every day. Ye me, you can't help like. That's

1144
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 8: still a big part.

1145
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 10: Of me, right.

1146
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm forever going to be a martial artist,

1147
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 8: and I'm a huge Eagles fan, but I'm a huge

1148
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 8: mixed martial arts fan, and so when I had the

1149
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 8: time and I'm trying to consume that and watch those fights,

1150
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 8: so it definitely hit me. I think that that was

1151
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 8: a situation that was brewing for a long time, you know,

1152
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:04,480
Speaker 8: the minute the minute the bmf ranch opened up, and

1153
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 8: even even before then, when when Cowboy and Leonard Garcia

1154
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 8: started making money and opening up their home to other fighters.

1155
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 9: It was a great business idea.

1156
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,680
Speaker 8: They bought a Cowboy bought a bus and he would

1157
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 8: bust in all these fighters who paid a certain amount

1158
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 8: of money to stay at his place every month, and

1159
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 8: he would give Greg Jackson a piece of it. I mean,

1160
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 8: it was a great value proposition for him. He made

1161
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 8: a ton of money doing it, and that really led

1162
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,879
Speaker 8: to what was the creation of the bmf ranch. And

1163
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,000
Speaker 8: there was going to be some divide there, and I

1164
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 8: see both sides of it. One thing I would tell

1165
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 8: you is that coaching fighters is really tough to be

1166
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 8: profitable because when they lose, it's always somebody else's faults.

1167
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 8: They leave the gym, they don't pay very well, or

1168
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 8: they don't pay on time. You know, you got to

1169
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 8: you gott to hassle them to pay the money that

1170
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 8: they owe you for the percentage of their purse. So

1171
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 8: it was really tricky. And I would say that Greg

1172
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 8: Jackson is a sweet person. He's a very good coach.

1173
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,520
Speaker 8: He's a great guy. And one of the things he's

1174
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 8: not good at is telling fighters like, hey, you owe

1175
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 8: me money.

1176
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 9: It was never important to him.

1177
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 8: So you know, when it came to actually running a

1178
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 8: profitable gym, that wasn't a strength as strengths coaching fighters.

1179
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,440
Speaker 8: So Wink watched that and said, look, I'm gonna we're

1180
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 8: gonna move it to my building. I've got bills to pay.

1181
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 8: So I kind of understand both sides. It just crushes

1182
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 8: me that they can't sit down and come to an

1183
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:28,879
Speaker 8: agreement because regardless whether cowboys, you know, help that gym

1184
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 8: be profitable or not on a balance sheet or an

1185
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,840
Speaker 8: income statement, he damn sure has helped builds some the

1186
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 8: fighters that have been there that have right, whether.

1187
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 9: He's training with them, he's teaching him.

1188
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 8: Certainly helped me while I was training, so it's it's

1189
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,640
Speaker 8: hard to see a guy who I consider like a

1190
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 8: brother and then my coach, you know, Gregan and Wink

1191
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 8: was really, you know, my my main guy. I hate

1192
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 8: seeing that divorce there because and I want to take

1193
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,800
Speaker 8: both sides. I wish I could get them on a

1194
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 8: table and get them to come to an agreement because

1195
00:51:55,880 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 8: they have both.

1196
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 9: Contributed so much to that team.

1197
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 8: And it does sting to see, you know, Cowboy not

1198
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 8: chosen over another athlete to coach, you know, when when

1199
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 8: he's getting ready to fight.

1200
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 5: That that's wild, right, And I'd imagine you would not

1201
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 5: be one of those lining up to see Cowboy Seroni

1202
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 5: and Diego Sanchez settle this inside the octagon right at

1203
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 5: this stage.

1204
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:18,439
Speaker 6: There respected careers, you know, And.

1205
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 8: If if I were still training there, this this conversation

1206
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 8: would have happened around a roundtable like this before it

1207
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 8: ever hit the media, and we would have tried to

1208
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 8: solve it that way. It's the same way that a

1209
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 8: Joey vas senor Keith Jardine when they were leading that

1210
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 8: gym would have done it.

1211
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 9: But you know, it's tough. It's a tough, tough situation.

1212
00:52:36,080 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 5: Brian stand with us on the Anak and Florian podcast.

1213
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,000
Speaker 5: One thing that is missed in the lead up to

1214
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,279
Speaker 5: Kabib and Connor's your analysis. So I want to get

1215
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 5: a little bit of it here. I think there are

1216
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 5: so many angles at which you can attack this thing, right,

1217
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 5: But among them, I mean, what are you most interested

1218
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 5: to see in what, at least on paper looks to

1219
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 5: a lot of people like a classic striker versus grappler confrontation.

1220
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 10: It doesn't.

1221
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 8: I would say that it goes a little a little

1222
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 8: beyond that in terms of, you know, conditioning. The conditioning

1223
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 8: is going to be a big factor of this contest

1224
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 8: as well, and not just you know, everybody knows that

1225
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,320
Speaker 8: in the first two rounds.

1226
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 9: Is when Connor's going to be the most dangerous to beat.

1227
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 8: Kabebe and we saw could be very susceptible to straight

1228
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:18,760
Speaker 8: left hands when he fought Michael Johnson.

1229
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 9: He ate a number of them. He doesn't move his

1230
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 9: head real well.

1231
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 8: How fast will could be want to close the distance

1232
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 8: and get in on Connor's legs, And if he chooses

1233
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 8: that route, how well will Connor maintain his energy? Because

1234
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 8: we know if anything tires Connor rout, it's wrestling and

1235
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 8: he comes in great condition, but just because of the

1236
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 8: way he's built as an athlete, He's not a guy

1237
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 8: who's going to be conditioned to where he can wrestle

1238
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 8: for five straight rounds.

1239
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 9: He's just not going to be able to.

1240
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 8: He's got to keep his distance, he's got to land

1241
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 8: big left hands, and he's got to hurt Kabeb early.

1242
00:53:49,640 --> 00:53:50,399
Speaker 10: But he's got to be.

1243
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,439
Speaker 8: Smart about how he expends his energy. And he does

1244
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 8: have the power to knock Kabeebe out. We've seen Kabib

1245
00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:59,239
Speaker 8: get rocked. He's a human being. For Kabeb, you know,

1246
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,640
Speaker 8: for me, he needs to move his head and he

1247
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 8: doesn't need to go in there and try and prove

1248
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 8: that he can strike with Connor. He needs to use

1249
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,400
Speaker 8: his bread and butter. He needs be able to get

1250
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 8: him down. What I'm watching for when I've seen kabee grapple,

1251
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:14,680
Speaker 8: in my eyes, he is the best at controlling someone

1252
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 8: on the ground with one hand and being able to

1253
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 8: punch almost continuously with the other hand. That is so

1254
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 8: hard to do when you're grappling with good guys at

1255
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 8: this level, the championship level, you get to use two

1256
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 8: hands to control them, and Connor can grapple people forget

1257
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:29,959
Speaker 8: that the kid can grapple and he's good on the ground.

1258
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 9: He's a big, strong guy.

1259
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 8: Can could be control him with one arm and land

1260
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,239
Speaker 8: sufficient shots with the other arm before a referee wants

1261
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 8: to stand him up. Because if I'm connor and I

1262
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,720
Speaker 8: want to manage my energy, if I do get taken

1263
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,279
Speaker 8: down early, I want to tie kabibap. I want to

1264
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 8: make it boring and force them to stand me back

1265
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 8: up rather than expend the energy myself to have to

1266
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 8: wall walk and work my way back up. I don't

1267
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 8: want to have to do that because it's gonna it

1268
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 8: will reduce my punching collar.

1269
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 3: Overtime.

1270
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 8: Michael Bisbane used to employ a great strategy. He would

1271
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 8: shoot takedown guys even if he didn't land them. He

1272
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 8: would force you to defend them, and he would steal

1273
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 8: your punching power. He did it to me, he did

1274
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,200
Speaker 8: it to vander Lay, he did in a lot of

1275
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 8: his fights. Or he would make you wrestle and he

1276
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 8: would use his pace as a weapon to slow you

1277
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 8: down in the later rounds and take away your punching

1278
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 8: power because for him, he could punch the same power

1279
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 8: for all those rounds. You know, Kabeeb has got to

1280
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 8: be smart close the distance, get this kid down and

1281
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:26,200
Speaker 8: wear him out over the first two rounds and then

1282
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 8: you know, look to be dominant in the third, fourth,

1283
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 8: and fifth. For Connor, I want to see, you know,

1284
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 8: can can he land the big left? Can he move

1285
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 8: and avoid the takedown early? And then can he manage

1286
00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 8: his energy efficiently so he doesn't fade in the later

1287
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 8: rounds if he can't knock this kid out in the

1288
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:39,960
Speaker 8: first two.

1289
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 5: Right, So, if someone's given you a thousand bucks to

1290
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 5: bet on one side of this, Kubib's the favorite right

1291
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 5: now about minus one seventy Connor McGregor holding a plus

1292
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 5: one forty, do you have a lean here twelve days out?

1293
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 10: I do.

1294
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 8: I'm leaning Versu Kabeeb, and you know, all forget all

1295
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,760
Speaker 8: the things I said. This game is very much about

1296
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Speaker 8: mental and I look, I have not been around either

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Speaker 8: fight or for sometimes. I have no idea where they are.

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Speaker 8: But I'm going to make my best educated guess. When

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Speaker 8: you've made north of one hundred million dollars, your your

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 8: level of hunger, that the level you're willing to go

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Speaker 8: to to suffer to win a fight is different than

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Speaker 8: a kid who's maybe got fifty grand in the bank

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Speaker 8: from Dakistan, could be may have more money than that

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Speaker 8: in the bank.

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Speaker 9: But that's a different level.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 8: This this kid comes from a place. It's different, but

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Speaker 8: similar to the place that Connor came from. To Connor

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00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 8: came from a hard upbringing. It wasn't easy, right, He

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Speaker 8: was trying to be a plumber and couldn't make it

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Speaker 8: as such. Came from a blue collar family and he

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Speaker 8: was hungry. That's where Kabibi is now, and he's going

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Speaker 8: to be more primal. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 8: willing to go to a certain depth of exhaustion and

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Speaker 8: pain to win this fight. And Connor as tough as

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Speaker 8: they come as well, I don't know if he's willing

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Speaker 8: to go that far now, having lived so comfortably for

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Speaker 8: the last year. Hunger is a big is a big

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Speaker 8: part of these big fights, and I give the advantage

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Speaker 8: that could be there, and I think that he's able

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Speaker 8: to out wrestle Connor early, wear him down, and as

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Speaker 8: Connor begins to fade a little bit, he doesn't fade much.

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Speaker 9: But we saw a little bit in Na dz fights.

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Speaker 5: Kuldibe takes over there and it sounds like you don't

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Speaker 5: at all worry about the big fight atmosphere Forbib her

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Speaker 5: Mango Metof. If anything, it sounds like you think he

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Speaker 5: might be buoyed by it, or I just think this

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Speaker 5: is a different walk than he will have ever experienced prior.

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Speaker 8: And you make a phenomenal point. And the one thing

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Speaker 8: I said this to somebody this weekend, you know, I said,

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Speaker 8: look on paper, and as I analyze the fight, I

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Speaker 8: think that Kabebe wins this fight. But I can never

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Speaker 8: count out Connor. When the lights shine brightest, the kid

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Speaker 8: just shows up.

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Speaker 10: He just shows up.

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Speaker 8: But I can't forget that first night DS fight. I

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Speaker 8: can't forget. You know, he is a human being. The

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Speaker 8: kid is human and this is a guy and could

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Speaker 8: be Hermaga Metov that, in my eyes, some of the

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Speaker 8: things that hurt him against Nate diez Kuldbib is a

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Speaker 8: little better at.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: Very interesting stuff, Brian Stan, great stuff, continued success, my friend,

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Speaker 5: thanks for hopping on with us. Happy birthday Red with Uh.

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Speaker 5: I miss you too, man, And hey, if you ever

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Speaker 5: want to call live sporting events, you know we'll leave

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Speaker 5: the light on for you, right Moti, I'll.

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Speaker 6: Sit back in the saddle.

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Speaker 9: Awesome, my pleasure.

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Speaker 6: All right, thank you buddy.

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Speaker 5: There he is former UFC commentator, UFC veteran Brian Stan

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Speaker 5: with us here on the Anak and Florian podcast. That's

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Speaker 5: a good egg right there. Seems like some of the

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Speaker 5: early experts and ex fighters that I'm talking to are

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Speaker 5: Lean and Hubbibnrmago Metoffs. So we're gonna see how many

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Speaker 5: expert picks we can get between now and fight night.

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Speaker 5: But you know, long Go and Stan are both going

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Speaker 5: that way. I think Kenny's gonna come on here and

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Speaker 5: pick Connor McGregor one week from today if he shows

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Speaker 5: up for the podcast. Just kidding, Flow, I love you,

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Speaker 5: but really, realistically, I think Kenny's gonna step on these

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Speaker 5: air waves a week from now and he is going

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Speaker 5: to pick Conor McGregor to win the fight. We'll see

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Speaker 5: how it plays out, but we got to get out

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Speaker 5: of here for this week, ladies. Thank you to our

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Speaker 5: guest Chuck Minenhaul, Ray Longgo, Jimmy Smith, Brian Stan. Thank

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Speaker 5: you to Ben with Sorek, the crew behind the glass

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Speaker 5: at Fox Sports. So next week, do you believe it?

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Speaker 5: It will be fight week? Already UFC two twenty nine

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Speaker 5: could be versus McGregor. So we'll previe you the big one,

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Speaker 5: and that podcast is coming your way Monday, October first.

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