1 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Devo and Joe. I'm your host, James 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Debo Harrison. I'm here with my co host Joe Hayden. 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: want to miss nothing today. How you're doing the day. 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 2: Joe doing great, Devo lovely, lovely Tuesday, my brother always 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: good time a head with you, my guy. 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, yes, sir man. That was a That was 8 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 1: a game yesterday, wasn't it though? Devo super excited, Yo, 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 1: out of control exciting. I ain't. I ain't never thought 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:35,599 Speaker 1: I would be that excited about a game that had 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: that many turnovers. 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 2: I was winding the game and I'm like this, baby, 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: you gotta see this, you gotta see this stuff like 14 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 2: it was just super exciting, Bri. 15 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: I had a blast watching it, though. Yeah, man, I 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: want to go through this detail. Man. You go to 17 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,640 Speaker 1: get out there. In the very first play, they go 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: deep to aj Man and it was just off his fingertips, 19 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: man and completed that they could have connected. 20 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: That that played the game long foutahol. That was that 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: would have been That would have been huge, That would 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: have been huge for him. 23 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: They go back second down, think Sa Kuan got two, 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: and then third and nine, Hurts hits, Uh what does 25 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 1: it got her? Yeah, he hits got her for nine 26 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: right there. First down they handed to sa Quan again. 27 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: I think he gets like three in a short one 28 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: of Dotson for three and then third down and full 29 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: Hurts gets sacked. More of a cover sack than anything else. 30 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 1: He had to work his way up out of it. 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: Covers in sack, working to guy, covers in rushworking cover. 32 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: For sure, they end up punting the ball chargers get 33 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: out there. Vid All hits the first one for three 34 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 1: second one. I believe it was an incompletion. He just 35 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: he just looked like he dropped that one dead. And 36 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 1: then third and seven, Herbert dumps it to Vdel and 37 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: that boy goes sixty yards to the seventeen of Philly. Dude, 38 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: I don't that was a huge play. I didn't think 39 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: it was gonna get caught. And then the linebacker started 40 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: running it down though, I. 41 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: Was like, man monkey jumped on Vidal bag El boy 42 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 2: started running underwater, his legs start getting heavy. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,959 Speaker 1: They get the rook back he went and he went 44 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: and ran one forbout eleven on the next play, and 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: I think it was maybe two after that, and on 46 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: the third down Herbert he finished it off to to 47 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: Hampton for a four yard touchdown seven zero. That seemed 48 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: like it was very easy for them to get down. 49 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: I kind of thought the game was gonna be higher 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: scoring than that after that first drive, to be honest 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: with you, rather go for sure. 52 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: I mean, especially the way the Chargers they walked it 53 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,639 Speaker 2: down at you know what, walked down super easy. I'm 54 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: hoping that the Eagle was gonna play a little bit 55 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 2: better defense, but uh, yeah, it was. 56 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was a lot more to come. Yeah, 57 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: it was a whole lot more to come. Eagles. Get 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: back out there, say kwan, he gone ahead, get him 59 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: my hot nineteen. Then turn right back around, get get 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Speaker 1: ten back to back. First out whoever ninety nine was, 61 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: he was getting moved around last night, dude. I seen 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,799 Speaker 1: one player he got like double hooked, dude, like he 63 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: got double reached for the charges. Yeah he was, he was. 64 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: He was on the he was on the center and 65 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: got reached by the guard like he was. He was. 66 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: They put him two gaps behind. 67 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's that ain't gonna get it done. They 68 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 2: don't get the job done. 69 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: De box, No, No, they get a holding, it turns 70 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it into second and twenty, say, Kawi, he picks up 71 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: about eight of that. Then third and twelve they convert 72 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 1: Hurts hist it in Dallas again, dude, another it was 73 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: a thirteen on that one. Yep. Then they ended up 74 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: trying to do like a run. Why would they try 75 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: and run that with him? Then? I am no, I 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: don't know. They sometimes they play call him with just 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: a little. That's why they in this house, man, That's 78 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: why they aging it. I'm just trying to tell you 79 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: that why they they need to don't hey, I'm just 80 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: telling you they keep calling that. You keep you keep 81 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,679 Speaker 1: doing like that. That might be you know, hey, Hurst 82 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 1: so fat third down man Smith, I think he only 83 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 1: got like a yard. They just closed in on him 84 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,920 Speaker 1: so fast, dude, them boys just breaking down to him. 85 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 1: Ended up having to settle for a field goal. It's 86 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: three to seven. Then Chargers get back out there. The 87 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: first play, I don't know how Herbert he shook a 88 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: sack man he dumped it to Hampton again. I think 89 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: he got seven on that one, and then second he 90 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: got dropped. I think they dropped the uh him in 91 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: the backfield. Yeah, they dropped him for four dude, Davis, 92 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: he was an issue for them. He was a man 93 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: in there. Broh yeah on that run game, yeah, man, definitely. 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: Then the Chargers ended up false starting. I think that 95 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: kicked him to like third and twelve or something, and 96 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: then they get the interception. I think it was but 97 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 1: because if they was off side Herbert, you know, he 98 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: already knew he had a free play, yep, so he 99 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: just threw it down there. I think the next play 100 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: he eluded like another sack, but it was incomplete. He 101 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: just threw He just threw it away. They end up 102 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: punting the ball again. Yo. They was I don't know 103 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: how long this dude go last behind that offensive line. 104 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Bro Oh my goodness, bro he is a surgery a month. 105 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 2: A week, a week ago, seven days, and he's still 106 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: getting beat up. I was feeling like it still didn't 107 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 2: get to the point he was getting hit running a 108 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: little bit. 109 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: But as the game started progressing, you saw like the 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: hit more and more, more and more. 111 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 2: He started handing it off with the wrong damn hand. 112 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, because he got to that joint. 113 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: He had a little pain for a minute. He had 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: he had to switch hands on there was get back 115 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: out there, and I think it was a pyramid. Ended 116 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: up dropping Sa Kwan for a loss on the first play, 117 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 1: And that's deep. But that's the thing I was saying too. 118 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: A lot of the things when Sakuan was running, he 119 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: was either getting into the secondary or they were hitting 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 2: him before he could get going, hitting him in the backfield. 121 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: It was one one, Yeah, it wasn't It wasn't really 122 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: that much in between. Yeah. I think it was a 123 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,239 Speaker 1: second down Hurts hit. Was it a smith of six? 124 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: Third down? He ended up throwing it high. It was intercepted, 125 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: but on review they saw the ball hit. They got 126 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: lucky on that one because what was that That would 127 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: have been well five, that'd have been five picks. Yeah. Yeah, 128 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:46,479 Speaker 1: So they end they went the ball and then the 129 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: rook get back out there on the first down. I 130 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: think he took it for like fifteen Yeah, but it 131 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: don't man. The next play they ended up getting a 132 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: holding penalty. I think Herbert scramble was for about five. 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: Next two plays was just incompletely. They punted the rock away. Yeah, yeah, 134 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: they punted the rock away. Eagles get the ball back 135 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: the first first run again dropped for a loss. Yeah, 136 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: they dropped him for a loss again, and then second 137 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: down they had an illegal contact untry that gave him 138 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: a first up and then previous and then the proceedings 139 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: second down he hit He hit Dallas again for sixteen 140 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: to get another first down. I think it was second 141 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: to seven eight something like that. They're picking up sixteen 142 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: there and then Hurts hits that man for twenty J 143 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: Brown AJ Brown for twenty two. I believe they get 144 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: to like the third down it was, and they get 145 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: to the third and two. Yeah, go ahead, third and two, 146 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: and in the. 147 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: Wildest play I've ever seen ever my life happens because 148 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 2: I figured out I started realizing how many stats happened 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: in that play. 150 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a pick. It's an assess not to fumble recovery. 151 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 1: Let me tell you this right now. As soon as 152 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: dude caught that ball and he started to run, I 153 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: was like, he's about to fumble. He started running like 154 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even know how to hold on to it. Bro, Like, 155 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: what are you doing? I'm like, he ain't even putting 156 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: it away. He holding it straight up and down like 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 1: a loaf of bread. Man. He looked back, got that 158 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: punch directly out punched directly out and then got slung 159 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: to the ground. Hurts, go ahead, he picks it up. 160 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh man, they done got lucky. They done 161 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: got it back. Give me that. Expect him to fumble. 162 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: He fumbles, So. 163 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, my man, Hurts got a fumble, he got a pick, 164 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 2: he got a pick, a fumble recovery and a fumble. 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 2: He got to pick a fumble, recovery and a fumble 166 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: in the same plays the first time in history. 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: And then my man went and I love the way 168 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: they fell on the ball, not having. 169 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 2: His feet out of bounds, looking crazy, not rushing, he 170 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 2: felt right on that ball, drop right on right and bounds. 171 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: I'm like this, thank you. Way to be professional, not panic, 172 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 2: have your legs off, your feet out of bounds, and 173 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: you laying it on the ball. I'm like, what are 174 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 2: they doing? So good job by him falling on the 175 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: ball and not looking crazy. 176 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,959 Speaker 1: Yeah, Chargers get the ball back. I think v d 177 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: All went a hot eight on the first one. Then 178 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: third down herbig hits hairs for like eighteen across the 179 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: body pressure. He's moving around and he's making these throws. Man, yes, 180 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: bro like with the hand jacked and all that, like dude. Yeah, 181 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: they got some protection, do you, Yes, he could do. 182 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: I think some of the I think the linemen are 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: hurt too. But he's back there getting smacked. You gotta 184 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: protect your investment. He's not soft. He's out there fighting 185 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: for his life. So you're right. If they protect them, man, 186 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,680 Speaker 1: it'll be good. Yes. Yes, they handed to v Doll again. 187 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 1: He got six on the first down. They get the 188 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: third down and they sack herb. They end up having 189 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: to settle for the field goal. This is ten to seven, now, 190 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: ten to three. Ten yeah, ten to three, okay, on 191 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: ten to three now, dude, the Eagles get back out there. 192 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: The second play, Hurts is intercepted again. Yes, brother, that's 193 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: just great corner play. Dice concept. Little slip, little slip, 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: little little slip, but great play. Great. He knew it 195 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: was dice. He saw that, he saw that tight end 196 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: to the flat. It's dice. It's just like a five 197 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: people on the lisce. 198 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: You got two curls, you got two people in the flat, 199 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: and you got somebody sitting over the ball. He saw 200 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 2: him sit and I'm like, oh my gosh, he broke 201 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 2: on that beautifully. Man slipped and fell, But that's just unfortunate, 202 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 2: great defensive play. Sorry you had to slip and fall, 203 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: but that was just that's I love that. 204 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: As a dB, I'm like, oh, yeah, go get your money, Yeah, 205 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: go give me, give me that, give me that. Chargers 206 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: get back out there. First play sack fumble recovered. As 207 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: much as Hampton helped him running the ball, he was 208 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: a serious live ability in past protection. 209 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 2: You know what that was, debo, You know exactly, backs 210 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 2: on backers, yes, backs on backers. He saw that man, 211 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: and if you have your back, your backer on the back, 212 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna win that. 213 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: That's what you do, not win. We did not win. 214 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 2: What kind of linebacker are you? You know what I'm saying. 215 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 2: They're like, no, you expected to run. 216 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: Through that man. 217 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 2: So that's exactly what he did. I said, Oh, people's 218 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,199 Speaker 2: gonna love this back. 219 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: No, yes, no question. If you don't do nothing else, 220 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: you gotta at least push him into his lap. You know, 221 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: you see him through that running back. He's a backer. 222 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,959 Speaker 1: Easy first down, Barkley come up out there. He get 223 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: him nine. Then second down he getting five. Yeah, they 224 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: went again, he getting thirteen again. That was the play 225 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 1: ninety nine that got double scooped on like I don't know, 226 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: Like I said, I don't know what was going on, 227 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,839 Speaker 1: but he had he had a tough day. Yeah, second 228 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 1: and seven, Hurts to aj again. Yes, eleven, they get 229 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: to the next second down, Hurts the Dallas got it 230 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: again for eleven and it's another first down, like I 231 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,599 Speaker 1: think they they got like maybe they got to the 232 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: next first down and it was like maybe like they 233 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: got maybe two yards or something like that. They ended 234 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: up coming away with only like a field goal because 235 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: they had a holding on the second and it was 236 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: actually I think it was a touchdown. Yeah, it was 237 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown, and then I called back for holding. Yep, 238 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: Hurts bumbled the joint and from yeah that on the Jones. 239 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,920 Speaker 1: They got lucky all the way through that, everybody was 240 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: getting lucky. It could have been at least four more turnovers. Yeah, yeah, 241 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: I think it ended up getting the field going on 242 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: that and right it was six to ten, six to ten, Yeah, 243 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: it's sixty ten and then Chargers get out there. It 244 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: ain't nothing, but like what fifty seconds left, forty seconds 245 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: left like that, trying to see I they can go 246 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: get some points before halftime, dude, and third down, he 247 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 1: is intercepted and it's having had his arm hit the 248 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: thing just flopped up in there, and then to add. 249 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: To it, you know, running back. But see that, that's 250 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 2: that's the extra. Why are you trying to slam man? 251 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: You hear the whistle blowing, you're frustrated, but that's fifteen. 252 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 2: Like that's the dumb stuff. I hate when people do, 253 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 2: like don you hear the whistle boom? I'm like, what 254 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 2: was that for, coach you? And now you got us 255 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: looking crazy? 256 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: That put him after I think the thirty of LA 257 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 1: when the Eagles got the ball back, but the field 258 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: goal kicker goes out there. They try to play. Field 259 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: goal kicker goes out there and he misses the field goal. 260 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: Halftime still six to ten year and the Chargers come 261 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: out and they work their way down the field. This 262 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: drive was long, long, dude. I think it was like 263 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,719 Speaker 1: sixteen plays or something like that for nine minutes and 264 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,199 Speaker 1: thirty seconds. Yeah, a lot of third conversion. Yeah, yeah. 265 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: Herbert scrambled I think for two of the first downs, 266 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: the longest one being the third down. I think he 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: went for like fifteen and then he got out of 268 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: another sack on that dude. He could they could have 269 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 1: sacked him about ten twelve times for sure, for sure, 270 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 1: and then they go and kick the field goal. It's good, 271 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 1: but dude gets a penalty for leverage. Dude, he didn't 272 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: even try and not leverage. He looked like he actually 273 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: went there to leverage. He was like, what what are 274 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: you doing? 275 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: Like like it was like this, like the coach told 276 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: him what you need to do is go push on 277 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: his back as hard as you can see how you 278 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: could get I was like, what are you doing? 279 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:45,960 Speaker 1: What in the world is he doing? Bro? Didn't even 280 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: go high. They ended up getting lucky. Well, defense stood 281 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: up to it, and then they got lucky. But they 282 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:56,160 Speaker 1: get to like nine, that's bro, they dna standing up. 283 00:14:57,160 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: They end up holding them to a field goal. So 284 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: don't it. Don't it. Don't crease them too bad. It's 285 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:05,600 Speaker 1: six to thirteen now, yes, sir, And this is when 286 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: Philly came out on the kickoff return they fumbled it. 287 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 1: They got lucky on that return that it was that way, 288 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 1: but to bounce if it bounced any other way. He 289 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: just was lucky, dude, very very very lucky. Dude. First 290 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 1: down I think hurts its aj for like twenty six. 291 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Chargers end up being able to hold. They hold them 292 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: to a field goal. It's nine to thirteen now right, yep. 293 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: And the Chargers come out there and they basically go 294 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: three and out with a sack fumble. They that's the 295 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 1: lucky to recover. That's the one almost who really mess 296 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: his hand up. And then you know the uh the 297 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: second down again, you got to do that beat again 298 00:15:58,200 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: for the sack. That was the sack of like he 299 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: get Hampton was he was, he helped him running, but 300 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: that was another back on backer. Yes, he was the 301 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: serious liability in the man that's fast protection. Like it 302 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 1: looks like everybody liability in the past protection. They out 303 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: there running for his life. Uh, running for his life? Yes, yes, 304 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: to skip back out there and second down finally McConkie 305 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: getting one for twelve. Then the next second down Herbert 306 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: ends up affording another sad scrambles for seven. 307 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 2: Talk out we after after they got the back to 308 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 2: back the back some backers and they punted it to 309 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 2: the Eagles. That's when they got the That's when when 310 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 2: the Eagles. 311 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 1: End up scoring. Oh, you're right, they had touchdown. 312 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: We had the fake toush push the fake to push 313 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 2: on thirty one, I call that the toush toss. 314 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: Yes, because the time got loose on them. Oh yeah thirteen. 315 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, I was waiting on that toussy. 316 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: Yes. I said, oh that was nice. Yeah. So they 317 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: go stop. Yeah, they're gonna stop holding that, you know, 318 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: putting everybody up in there. Hey, I ain't gonna lie. 319 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:14,879 Speaker 1: It looked like he might have got away with a 320 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: little hold over there. Tool for sure he did, Hey, 321 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:20,480 Speaker 1: for sure he did. He hold he held ma. He 322 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: was he he he had ma. He had him by 323 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: his back like. They didn't call it. So that's why 324 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: I didn't acknowledge it. My bad. I'm just saying I 325 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: seen it. I seen that too. I think I seen it. 326 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: I see Yeah, now the charge get back out there. Yes, 327 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: takond down Herbert Gone's head and he hits Conky, getting 328 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: my hot twelve. There we go, get involved with Conky. 329 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: I was looking on Conkey. Yeah. The next second down 330 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:47,480 Speaker 1: Herbert a voice another sack. I think he gaged seven. 331 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: But the Eagle Stephens was able to do what they 332 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: need to do, hold him down, get them to punt 333 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 1: the rock. Yes, sir, Eagles get back out there, man, 334 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: I think it's the punter when they punted it to him. 335 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 2: He almost he was bobbling it and got face mask too. 336 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how he kept the ball. I don't 337 00:18:05,920 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: know how they didn't call that face man. I think 338 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: because they get't called another one, and it looked like 339 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:13,120 Speaker 1: it could have been fast the same way. Crazy. That's crazy. 340 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 1: He got a call. Yeah, look what are y'all looking at? 341 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,439 Speaker 1: He's the only person that got the ball and head 342 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: he turned that whole head. 343 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, Refereez needs start getting fined. First down hurts. 344 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,880 Speaker 1: I think it was Cooper for nineteen and then he 345 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: proceeds to throw another innerception. But I'm gonna say this, 346 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 1: that wasn't all his fault. Heck no, it wasn't. AJ 347 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: got them Gator on side. That boy come down there 348 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: and he said, I got to get my hands down 349 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,640 Speaker 1: faster than I got to worry about catching this ball, 350 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: so I don't get my MiG session lit up. 351 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,440 Speaker 2: Thousand percent debo as that receiver and you're making thirty 352 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: five million dollars a year. I need you to expose 353 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,960 Speaker 2: yourself to that hit. You know what I'm saying it is? 354 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: You know, maybe he was thinking if I do that, 355 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: who knows next time? Man, de bo, don't even do that. Man. 356 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: Everybody got dirty stuff to their job. Man across that 357 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: million to catch that rock, you know what I'm saying, 358 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: bomb because he can't, he can't, he can't fold it in. 359 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 1: That was that was a man. You gotta go ahead 360 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: get that. But that's it. 361 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 2: But then look, if you don't get it, it's a pig. 362 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Speaker 2: And now you setting your team up for failure. And 363 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,360 Speaker 2: you want the rock. H you the man, I love you, 364 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 2: but you gotta have your quarterback feeling like this. If 365 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: I'm throwing over there, worst case scenario, if it's a 366 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: bad ball, I don't want it to be picked. 367 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: But that's okay, that's okay ball. You gotta go get 368 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: that for me. Please, all dudes, keep the hands up 369 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: a little higher. And actually, like as soon as he 370 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: went the junk to get it, he looked to see 371 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 1: where somebody was at and that was immediate note returning 372 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: that one thing. I think it was to the Philly 373 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: like thirty five. And then Chargers get out there and 374 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: I think the first play Herbert got sacked sack number six. 375 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: By then, you know, they completed maybe one more first 376 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: down and again they had to settle for a field goal. 377 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: Defense was able to do what they needed to do. 378 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: Eagles defense was answering calls and putting out forest fires 379 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: the whole game. Bro Oh, dude, he was them dudes 380 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 2: was hooping offense. Did not put them any good positions. 381 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: No, they they helped the cause too much. I think 382 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 1: it just tied up sixteen sixteen now and then basically 383 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Chargers. I think they traded back 384 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: and forth three and outs. Then Philly ends up getting 385 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 1: it and starting at the forty after that punt return, yep, 386 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: and it's I think it's only like three a little 387 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: over three and a half minutes left to play. Second 388 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 1: down hurts his AJA again sixteen But he actually broke 389 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: that one, broke the tackle, get held on to him, yay. 390 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: And now I thought he was about the hurdle, buddy, 391 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,679 Speaker 2: and stay in bounds and just get all the way 392 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 2: up to the sideline. 393 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 1: Looked like I thought he had jumped it. But when 394 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: he jumped in, I guess he jumped and slid out 395 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: a little when he jumped instead of going instead of 396 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: going in for sure. And then the next second down 397 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 1: hurts his AJ again. Big boys in that time, big 398 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 1: boy slams dude. The following second down, guess guess who 399 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: guess who? Oh to aj Yes had the ball. Man 400 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 1: that dB made a hell of five play, bro, come on. 401 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,920 Speaker 2: Come on, de bo, that's that's how you. It was like, 402 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 2: oh he dropped it. He didn't drop it. The defensive 403 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 2: back ricked it, put his hand in that bucket the same. 404 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: Time and got that arm yep. So that's why he 405 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: was looking at you get that chance to actually get 406 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: it fully locked in so he could squeeze zepp in 407 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: the arm off. So now you can't catch the ball. 408 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: That was perfect. dB played perfect time and AJ Brown 409 00:21:57,640 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 1: knew he was like this. He knew. He was like, 410 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: that's just a great play. 411 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: I gotta have that for show. But he knocked it out, 412 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 2: so like great ball, great right there. But the defensive 413 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 2: back like, ah, that's how you make a play. That's 414 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 2: a pass breakup. Yeah, definitely. 415 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: The competitor and the way he see himself, he wants 416 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: to be great. He gotta have that. He said it himself. 417 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 2: So the offenser side, yes, that was it touched both 418 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: your hands. So you feel like I need that. That's 419 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 2: my ball for show. As a dB, I gotta have 420 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: that pass breakup. That's real fight to the last last tex. 421 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: Yes, right there. They ended up, you know, keeping him 422 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: to only a field goal. That's an extra four points 423 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: not on the board, nineteen to sixteen Chargers get back 424 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: out there, ended up getting to I think it was 425 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 1: third and ten. It was incomplete, but it was a 426 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: pass and I gave him a first down. That's huge, 427 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,360 Speaker 1: bro that it would have been over. It was a rat, 428 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: it would have been over over. Then that first down 429 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: Herbert scrambles, Hey for seven. I'm gonna tell you right now, 430 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: he is not stepping out of bounds right there, that's me. 431 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: He is in bounds. Oh no, no, for she isn't 432 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: that right there? I would have felt like he's after 433 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 1: the outcome had happened, that I just lost us the game, 434 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: because that right there, you would have to be like, Nope, 435 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: you can finish next week. 436 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 2: No, because at the end of the day, what you're saying, 437 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 2: my man was running out of bounds to the angle, 438 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 2: where like, there's no way because if he would have 439 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,959 Speaker 2: hit him at the angle he was running, they were 440 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:35,640 Speaker 2: out of bounds. 441 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: But if he was coming he was he was already 442 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: out of bounds. So when he came down, his foot 443 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: would have been in bounds when he hit him. 444 00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: No, No, I'm saying if he would have came at 445 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,080 Speaker 2: an angle to hit him, he could have hit him 446 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 2: straight and busy for sure. But I'm saying he was 447 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 2: running out of bounds, like just someone seeing he was coming. 448 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 1: He was running out of here talking about good play. Nice. 449 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: No, it's not you think he should have found him. 450 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: He should have just found him. What he in bounds? Dude, 451 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: you need to get out faster. Same thing with with with. 452 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: Dark, with dark, No a thousand percent. I just want 453 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: to protect that hand and everything else. He went. Yeah, 454 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: he looked out. 455 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: He just looked out because the d ran out of bounds, 456 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: like I know where you're running. 457 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: I see somebody chasing you. I could from you, but 458 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm just like gonna run in front of you, out 459 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: of bounds, run in front of you, out of the dude. 460 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,639 Speaker 1: Look he looked at He had a whole footing bounds 461 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: when he went past him. He could have I'm not cold, 462 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: he could have Fon next play, Videl goes what eight 463 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 1: and then third and four? Who scrambles for another first 464 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: down her mind? That shouldn't he probably even been in 465 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: the game. No broken hand, like broken hand, like you 466 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:53,399 Speaker 1: stumming shot anything like anything that that hand would have 467 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: been tingling so bad he wouldn't have been able to 468 00:24:55,200 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: even try and throw it. Like, yeah, he got it's 469 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: been able to at least be there for the next 470 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: couple of plays. Take away to scramble that led to 471 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a first down on third four, and then he gets 472 00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 1: another nine pull, pulled it again. He started doing that leg. 473 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 1: Yes it's again, Eagles able to hold him. They tie 474 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: it up. It's nineteen nineteen. We get into overtime. Yes, 475 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: Chargers get the ball to start and now we're pulling 476 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: it again. Herb's like, well win this. I'm trying to 477 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: win this thing. Well, then Hampton go eighteen. Yes, they 478 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: get able to they you know, they able to stop it. 479 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: They got a great kicker over there. They get the 480 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: field goal twenty two to nineteen. Yep. I'm like, I'm 481 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: just thinking, like, yo, if that's me and we get 482 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: to the points of where Philly is at now and 483 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: we lose this game, I am never doing that again. 484 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: I Am never. I ain't sparing nobody. Oh I can't. 485 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: Oh you're talking about that? Yeah, you still I ain't 486 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: spirit due, I ain't spirit All these players he done 487 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,040 Speaker 1: did he ain't supposed to even be in there doing them. Yeah. 488 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would have been the finisher for Shure because 489 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: he did debo. You're exactly right when I'm looking at 490 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 2: the game. He could have peeled on them, but he 491 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,719 Speaker 2: didn't have that. He didn't even have the intentions to 492 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 2: peel on him. He just wanted to. He just ran 493 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 2: in front of him like, oh, I could have hit you. 494 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: Like just basically showing him. But like, I know what 495 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: you're saying. I did idea, like right across from mid 496 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,239 Speaker 1: section bomb. He could have Philly get out there. I 497 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: think third and six hurt scrambles for what seventeen But 498 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 1: they get a whole, They get a whole self inflicted 499 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: wounds man, Yes, and then they let them convert. Boy, 500 00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: that was the best ball. He threw it a day, 501 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: twenty eight yards dude. First down. I'm like, oh, man, 502 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: they I'm like, yo, they must be trying, they trying 503 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: to get in this. Yeah, they trying to go ahead 504 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: and give them in this game. Man. They get them 505 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,239 Speaker 1: down the fourth and four, I think it was. Now. 506 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: They really tried to give him the game this the 507 00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Illes stuff in Nebraska. What is she doing? Bro? It 508 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: just called a time out because the snap was gonna 509 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: be too fast. You know, they got more time. They're 510 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: going too hard. Count They got a kicker that can 511 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,440 Speaker 1: make that kick. Do they really want to snap that ball? 512 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 1: If they ain't got too probably let the kicker go 513 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: do it. It ain't your water hold your water? Right? He 514 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: goes and gets into the neutral song tackle, does the 515 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:49,639 Speaker 1: responsible thing that crazy yeah, gets the moving Then second 516 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: down hurts hit Dallas again for sixteen. I think the 517 00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: next play he uh he get uh what was it? Oh? No, 518 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: was it was it that person? It was it was 519 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: the next play. What happened in the next play? Oh yeah, 520 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: the next place? What happened? I'm trying to get you 521 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: to the place. What did the corner do? 522 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 2: I want you to tell me everything in the corner 523 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 2: played it just like you know who did it? 524 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: You know who did it? Like James Pierre. That's that 525 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: cover too, that's that high low. You got the you 526 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 1: got the flat round in front of you, and you 527 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: got a seven route behind you. At the end of 528 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:28,480 Speaker 1: the day, he could have got to the low, but 529 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: he was playing right there right in between perfect coverage. 530 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,880 Speaker 1: So he tell you that deep the short I'm right here. 531 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: I'm right here. I can bite the cheese, as Buss 532 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: would say, but say, hey, don't bite the cheese the time. 533 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: If it's something short in front of you, it's something 534 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: deeper behind you. They want you to come up to 535 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,480 Speaker 1: it to clear. He hadn't did that, he wouldn't have 536 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: got a hand on the ball because it was beat. Yes, 537 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: he was beep because like broke, big dog right. 538 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: That's not because in cover two, that's not the A 539 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: seventh route is not the safety's play. He's got to 540 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: be able to come there and make help you. But 541 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: the corner the seven round is a corners playing cover too. 542 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 2: You got to make that play. So if he tapped it, boom, 543 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,160 Speaker 2: safety is right in enough position to make the tackle. 544 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: They be able to make the play on the ball. 545 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: They called the right play for it. They just didn't 546 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: count on that corner doing exactly what he did. He 547 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: got that hand on that ball, safety was able to 548 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: get to it. Game over, game over. That's the way 549 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: you do it right there. Bo No, the Eagles, man, 550 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,239 Speaker 1: they just that they didn't they do I think they 551 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: kicked what so many field goals in the red zone. 552 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 1: They they ain't converted enough of their red zone possessions 553 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: into touchdowns. It was too many field goals they had 554 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: to settle for it, along with too many turnovers period. 555 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, like untimely turnovers, you know, for interceptions. This 556 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: dude got an interception, a fumble recovery, and a cause 557 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: like you you fumbled it, you recovered it, and you 558 00:29:55,160 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: intercepted it all and you got intercepted all them. Yeah, 559 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: the Chartist defense just played situationally better. That's what it 560 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: come down to. Better in the rear zone and holding 561 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: the field goals. Third downs. I think there was only 562 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: four or thirteen, you know, Philly was this, you know. 563 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: And then dude, Herbert, dude, he yo, he just toughed 564 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: it out. Seven days after having your hands surgically repair 565 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 1: this boy got metal in his hand. Like, but I'm 566 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,600 Speaker 1: gonna tell you this, Like they gonna need to get 567 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: him some protection. He go get killed out there, man, 568 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:43,720 Speaker 1: one thousand percent. You got a gladiator. 569 00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: They got a gladiator out there, Herbert, that's fighting for 570 00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 2: his life. He know that they ain't gonna really do 571 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: too much without him, but for his safety. 572 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: That's why you playing with a surgely repaired hands seven 573 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: days later, no days after done. 574 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 2: It's fresh wounds under that hand, under that but it's blood. 575 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Man. You can knock something loose in there. That stuff 576 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: ain't stable. And they talking about something gallus stuff and all. 577 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, and the bones hardened up around 578 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 1: those plates, boos and stuff. 579 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 2: Man, they talking about something. Yeah, it's just some swelling 580 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: and scarring. 581 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 1: I say that he just had this turn some some 582 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: It told me somebody had surgery in seven days and 583 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: they listen. He got open wounds still, That's what I'm saying, Deebo. 584 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 1: He's bleeding out on the on the field. He got 585 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: open wounds. Man. Yeah, they gotta relax. They gotta stop 586 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,640 Speaker 1: tripping on that man like that man was going hard. 587 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 2: He got hit to just getting hit too many times. 588 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 2: And I love the way he plays too, like he 589 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: knows he uses his legs. He's not gonna he's trying 590 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 2: to help the team out, you know what I'm saying. 591 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 2: So some of those hits he's gonna be taking them, 592 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 2: but just the ones in the pocket where he's just 593 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: getting smacked, we just need. 594 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: To He is running around. He ran into a couple 595 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 1: of sets because he just thought somebody was gonna come. Yeah, 596 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 1: and he was like, the time is over with, I 597 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: gotta run because that clock in his head yea off, Yeah, 598 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,280 Speaker 1: I know how much time they normally give me. He 599 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: like there's one, two, somebody's for right now. Yeah. 600 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 2: And then but with with with the Eagles, like you said, 601 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 2: it's too many, too many, too many turnovers like that 602 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: was that was crazy, you know. And then the ricochets, 603 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 2: a lot of the pad the overthrown balls that could 604 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 2: have been picked. And with that run game, I love 605 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 2: the way they was getting Sakuan gone. But it's like 606 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 2: either bang or bust, you know what I'm saying. 607 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: It's a lot of them. He's getting hit four yard, 608 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: three yard losses, one yard losses, the lines just getting 609 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: beat like a drum sometimes, so I mean, and then 610 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: a lot of the offense, my man Jalen Hurts was 611 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: back there like running full blown five wides a lot 612 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,600 Speaker 1: of the times too. They just had him spreading it out. 613 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: Like they were just calling it, had him out there dealing. 614 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: So I mean, I didn't I didn't see any real consistency, 615 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying to the office, They don't 616 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 2: have really had no flow, so it just looked like okay, step. 617 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: Any time they got a little flow, it was like, 618 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: oh turnover. 619 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah you know, No, for sure that was not That 620 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 2: was not a good showing by Jalen Man, just because 621 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 2: all them, all them picks. 622 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 1: You can't do that and expect them in the game. Yeah, 623 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie. I don't think the difference gonna 624 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: play that good. Though. They defense balled out. Yeah, they 625 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: defense balled out. I didn't think they was gonna play. 626 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna be a like, you know, 627 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:26,880 Speaker 1: one of those where you just get you get knocked 628 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 1: all over the place. I mean they what's my man 629 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: named Davis ninety. 630 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he's a trouble body, bro trouble he's a big body. 631 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 1: He was. He was super trouble for that man. And 632 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: it's like he's stout. You're not you know, you said. 633 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 2: People are just coming over and taking over, Like if 634 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,640 Speaker 2: he had the gap over there, he's letting the lineman 635 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: come get him. No, he's not getting cross faced, he's 636 00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: none of none of that's happening. He's remaking the line 637 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 2: of scrimmage. 638 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: Oh easily easily slicing through there like he like he thinned. Though. 639 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 1: Sometimes that's crazy. That's that was a good game, man. 640 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: They say that still is just you know, they say 641 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: they got lucky. Man, they say, still just got lucky. 642 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: But it's hope that you know, the rivalry provides, and 643 00:34:11,920 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 1: that Aaron provides a little bit of a rivalry. I mean, 644 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: it's you know, they say it's water down in the 645 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: AFC over here with us in the North. That's what 646 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: they're saying. But Mike did say, hey, you go into 647 00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 1: business with Aaron Rodgers for days like this. I agree 648 00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 1: with him one hundred percent because that's that's what I 649 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: thought we was getting all day you first signed him. 650 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I ain't gonna say like two 651 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,960 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five yards at a game. But I 652 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: thought we was gonna get something that was effective. You know, 653 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: I don't. My thing is this though we had we 654 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,759 Speaker 1: got him for days like this. I thought we got 655 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: him just for the season to play like this all year. 656 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 1: But with that being said, I don't want to feel 657 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: like we got to wait till we get to the 658 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 1: twelfth hour to make the necessary changes that we saw 659 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,719 Speaker 1: was needed the previous twelve weeks, and we just did 660 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: nothing about it. So if that's the case and we 661 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,320 Speaker 1: continue to, like, you know, the offense continues to play 662 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: like this, you know, like they did last week or 663 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: somewhere around it close to it, you know, then somebody 664 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: got to be responsible for not changing that the previous 665 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 1: first weeks, right, and then you know, I'll say again 666 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: the defense. Hold up, let me say this, If the 667 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: offense continues to play this way, okay, and the defense 668 00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: continues to play the way they played, giving up the 669 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: numbers that they did against the Ravens, the outcome will 670 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,439 Speaker 1: not be the same. And I highly doubt we'll get 671 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: calls you know that we did against them that essentially 672 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: helped us win the game. Like and to think about this, like, 673 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: the crazy thing is the offense played the best game 674 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: they done played all year, and without those two questionable calls, 675 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: we could have still lost the game. 676 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,279 Speaker 2: No for sure, for sure, we could obviously do better. 677 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 2: And this is the thing too, The division is you 678 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,240 Speaker 2: can only be who you play. The Ravens are leading 679 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 2: in the division, so us being in a sorry division 680 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 2: right now is I mean no, no. 681 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. 682 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,879 Speaker 2: Once we once we beat them, but I'm saying us 683 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,360 Speaker 2: being able to lead the division. Now, it's good because 684 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,839 Speaker 2: end of the day, you got to be who you play, 685 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 2: and that's who we That's that's our littleness right now. 686 00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 2: To be able to get in the playoffs, we had 687 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 2: to beat them, no matter how. 688 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,279 Speaker 1: We beat them, ugly, good defense, do good whatever, whatever. 689 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 2: We got out of that stadium with a dub So 690 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,440 Speaker 2: I feel you. But moving forward, I know our defense. 691 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 2: I've seen us play at a very very high level. 692 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: And offense too, even not even this game was really good, 693 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 2: but I seen a Rod doing the scramble he threw 694 00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:05,960 Speaker 2: before touchdowns no picks before this season, so I seen 695 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 2: him do that also. So I'm like a Rod having 696 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 2: him And he says we're going in the business because 697 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: later on in the year when it's getting cold, when 698 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: we're trying to make the playoffs, win, it doesn't matter 699 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 2: how you win, but you just better make sure you 700 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 2: do win, you know what I'm saying. So I understand 701 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 2: what he's saying that going into these games with a 702 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 2: Rod having a vet quarterback defense, I've seen him do 703 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 2: it before. To offense that I like it. I've seen 704 00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,399 Speaker 2: him do this before too. It's just our team needs 705 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 2: to have way more consistency. We don't know which team 706 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 2: is going to come into the stadium, just come in 707 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: that stadium team. 708 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: As a I want to know what's stopping that. What 709 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: do you think is stopping that consistency? Do you think 710 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:43,640 Speaker 1: it's played? Do you think it's played? Play? 711 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 2: I think it's played because a lot of the times 712 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 2: that I'm seeing things debo, it's somebody getting beat, it's 713 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,800 Speaker 2: somebody dropping the past. It's a lot of the stuff 714 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 2: is self wounds. Like my man echoes. I'm gonna speak 715 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,800 Speaker 2: on him because a lot of the time I be 716 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,800 Speaker 2: on them because I'm like, dude, I see the coverage. 717 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 2: You need to be just in your assignment and then 718 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,239 Speaker 2: then then you can make the play like it's not 719 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: all about you, like having to be perfect. It's just 720 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,840 Speaker 2: about you not blowing anything. Everybody needs to not be 721 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,960 Speaker 2: out there doing any Mays. If we don't have any 722 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,120 Speaker 2: amas and somebody just beat you at that play, then okay, 723 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 2: I can live with that. I can't live with us 724 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: doing Mays, turnovers, dumb things. 725 00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:22,600 Speaker 1: So I think it's the play. Dudes, y'all better go 726 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 1: out there and no matter what the what, the. 727 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 2: Play is being your gap do what the job is 728 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,080 Speaker 2: said to do, and if the job then is bad, 729 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: then we'll go and we'll figure out the call. 730 00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 731 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 2: But a lot of stuff I see more is player 732 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 2: base some stuff. Then I'm like, y'all done it before. Good, 733 00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 2: stop getting hit out your gaps. You know what I'm saying, 734 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,640 Speaker 2: Catch the ball, don't turn it over. So with this 735 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,479 Speaker 2: with a rod I love, I just don't. 736 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: I want us to. Don't try to do crazy things. 737 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,919 Speaker 1: Just don't offense. I'll say this. I think it's more 738 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 1: of what they're called or allowed to call, because we 739 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: ain't never threw the ball down the field that much. 740 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 1: Mm hmm okay, you never threw the ball down and 741 00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:00,799 Speaker 1: feel that much. Period, Like if it whatever it's called, 742 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: that's the route they gotta run. So obviously it was 743 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 1: something that was said or done that changed how the 744 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: offense operated. When it comes down to the defense, A 745 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 1: lot of what I saw, not this game, but previous 746 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,640 Speaker 1: games was just scheme schematics. I'm seeing people doing the 747 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 1: same thing, different people doing the same thing, and it's 748 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: not that everybody's doing something wrong. That's how you're done. 749 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: Scheme it out and it wasn't working, you know, having 750 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 1: last week, you know, having our corners and safeties trying 751 00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: feel down in the line that was not happening. Like 752 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: they tried it for a hot second with Baltimore, and 753 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,399 Speaker 1: you know, we changed it up and figured out how 754 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:49,760 Speaker 1: we're going to adjust to it. But I just feel 755 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,319 Speaker 1: like it's a combination of the two and when you 756 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: are not put in the positions to be able to 757 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,720 Speaker 1: be affected, because it's not every man with a gap. 758 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,839 Speaker 1: It could be somebody that has two gaps. It could 759 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: be somebody where, oh, well, we're worried about that if 760 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: it ever, if it ever comes to it. And I 761 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,800 Speaker 1: know it's things like that that's going on. So guys 762 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: have to play, yes, But at the same time, they 763 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,240 Speaker 1: got to be put in positions that, yeah, make those 764 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:29,239 Speaker 1: plays No. A thousand what said, Yeah, So that's let 765 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 1: me see. Like I said, it's it's it's for me, 766 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,839 Speaker 1: it's it's a combination of the both. But looking back 767 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: on what we've seen, not including this game, due it 768 00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: was times where I'm just like, yo, they don't know 769 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: a schematically when you say that thing of schematically. 770 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 2: Part that I understand is when they ran that play 771 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 2: on us twenty nine times the same play, and here's 772 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,400 Speaker 2: the thing to play. 773 00:40:54,640 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: Was actually zoned out that if they fitted exactly how 774 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: it's supposed to, then they would be able to make 775 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: that play. It's just the guys were not in their gaps, 776 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 1: and then when it came down to it, it was 777 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 1: like it was usually like a gap left open that 778 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: he didn't take it too because we weren't really getting 779 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: down to it anyway. But you're asking us, you know, 780 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: you're asking a corner to come down here and play 781 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: like a linebacker. Snap. What it was it twenty thirty snaps? 782 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: Come on, when they got big bodies. We need big bodies. 783 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 1: We have to figure out how to cover that some 784 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: other way. I don't I just and like I said, 785 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 1: all that that they were doing there, I think it's 786 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: just from you know, trying to tweak the defense here 787 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,280 Speaker 1: and there to make it work better for the talent 788 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:48,720 Speaker 1: or for the skill set of players that you got. 789 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,360 Speaker 1: I think what we've been doing a lot of over 790 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:56,839 Speaker 1: the last ten years is we've been we've been we've 791 00:41:56,920 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: been drafting. We've been drafting players. We've been drafting players 792 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,080 Speaker 1: and not players for the position that we need them 793 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: to feel I need a D lineman that's going to 794 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: be able to hold up in the run game because 795 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: he's an interior D lineman, Like I need, you know, 796 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: an outside guy that can can can be able to 797 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: you know, rush the ball. We don't drop anymore anymore, 798 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: so we used to have to have guys that, you know, 799 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: had to be able to drop, curl flag, had to 800 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: be able to cover scene at least, you know, be 801 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,720 Speaker 1: able to chase with the number two. Like it's times 802 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 1: where like I said, you look and I'm locked on 803 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: I'm locked on the slot receiver and I'm going like 804 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,319 Speaker 1: this looking back at r see, like, hey, you see 805 00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 1: them all too by myself? Right, yeah, you know for sure, 806 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, but that was something that with Dick Larbos 807 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,480 Speaker 1: defense man, it was a it was a lot of 808 00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: nuances of it that you know, you had to know 809 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: everything about it. And when it got to I think 810 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 1: when I went to Cincinnati in thirteen, you know, it 811 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: just turned into like it was a lot of players. 812 00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:05,799 Speaker 1: I won't say a lot, It was like just a 813 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,399 Speaker 1: few players that were young and they were they were 814 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: they were in their starting and you know, it's hard 815 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 1: to learn that defense, and they were they were making 816 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: big mental error small mental errors, and when you do 817 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,800 Speaker 1: that in Coastal the Bolls defense, it strikes up the band. 818 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: But that's not how I know coast le Boll operated 819 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,480 Speaker 1: for the most part, Like I think the only person 820 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,760 Speaker 1: that ever started as a rookie in Coastal BOS defense 821 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:31,680 Speaker 1: was Kendro Bell, and we ran all those MAC defense 822 00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,400 Speaker 1: like the gap mac guns all that stuff. So it 823 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 1: basically just told the mac a get out of here 824 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 1: and blitz abc D, abc D, and then the linebackers 825 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,759 Speaker 1: or whoever else would pick up whatever his coverage work was. 826 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: But you know, when we got to the position I 827 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,480 Speaker 1: think where we just started, you know, we started drafting 828 00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: for for the player and not the position that the 829 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: player needed to feel. I think it's when, you know, 830 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,880 Speaker 1: things started going downhill a little bit. And then we 831 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,919 Speaker 1: had a point where, you know, I think between two 832 00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen to about twenty Yeah, that's when I 833 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: back up. Yeah, I got the round team. We was 834 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,239 Speaker 1: in there like five, we went three, we did real 835 00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,200 Speaker 1: good Man right right, and they were back up there 836 00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: and then I think in a twenty one thing started 837 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,920 Speaker 1: going down again, and from there it just continued to 838 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:31,000 Speaker 1: go down I don't know if it was just more 839 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 1: changes because I'm not there to see it, I don't 840 00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 1: know if that's what it was, but looking at it now, 841 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: like I know, just from looking at the scheme of 842 00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,040 Speaker 1: like this stuff is just it's not correctly dapped out. 843 00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,480 Speaker 1: The one thing that you said, big, big time that 844 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: hits me hard, like when I went there and it 845 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,719 Speaker 1: ended up being a really good defense, was if you 846 00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: don't have that that. 847 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 2: Really kind of you got to know football. You got 848 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,680 Speaker 2: to be able to communicate and like be able to 849 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 2: talk to linebacker, be able to talk to the safeties 850 00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,120 Speaker 2: and know what do we see and we see the 851 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: same things. You know what I'm saying, So if there's 852 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 2: any they can't be gray. So we would do some 853 00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,280 Speaker 2: extra meanings. So like you said, it wasn't just exactly 854 00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 2: black and white. I would have to do meanings me, Minka, 855 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,520 Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. With Vince Williams, I love Vince, 856 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 2: because Vince, if you didn't know something, thisn's gonna come 857 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,759 Speaker 2: ast you. Min's gonna like this. I don't like the grade, Joe, 858 00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 2: like I might need to do ivents. So we need 859 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 2: to figure this out. So we're gonna write. 860 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,320 Speaker 1: So you know, but who who Why wouldn't that be told, 861 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: you know, to Vince by this coach. You see what 862 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like you got to sit down. I know 863 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,720 Speaker 1: I'm with you, because there was just like you said, 864 00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 1: there there were certain things that was being told that's 865 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:39,520 Speaker 1: different and there's people for the same defense. And it 866 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,560 Speaker 1: was like, yo, just because again, as you said, just 867 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: because you did it this way, don't mean that's what 868 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,879 Speaker 1: we do it. They want to do it this way, 869 00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: We can't do it that way. But what makes what. 870 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 2: Makes you good is if you have to have people 871 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 2: that end up being like there's there there sometimes has 872 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 2: to be some extra like if everybody's not seeing things 873 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 2: the same way, you have to get onto the same 874 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 2: core because today you're on the field, you know what 875 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 2: I'm saying. 876 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: So I would hope. 877 00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,680 Speaker 2: That the coaches and everybody was setting this stuff up right, 878 00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 2: but I just know when I was there, we would 879 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,200 Speaker 2: have to have a little bit of extra meetings just 880 00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,319 Speaker 2: so there's no grade, making sure linebackers and corners see 881 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,279 Speaker 2: things the same way. 882 00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:16,440 Speaker 1: Is this getting passed off? Is this high low? You 883 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Are you taking this or not? 884 00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:18,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. 885 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,239 Speaker 2: So the extra stuff to it because when you know, 886 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:23,360 Speaker 2: like Udbo. 887 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,880 Speaker 1: We do. When coach Lebaul was there, we didn't have that. 888 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: We knew what it was. Everybody coached the same thing. 889 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 1: This is exactly what it was, you know, And now 890 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 1: you think, look look at this. So in thirteen, I 891 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: think I ended up going to Cincinnati and twelve we 892 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,680 Speaker 1: were number one defense. In thirteen I think they ended 893 00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: up dropping to thirteen ranked, and then in eighth, and 894 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: then in fourteen it was eighteen, and then coach Lebaul 895 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: wasn't renewed and it was said that his defense was old. 896 00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: It was getting No, that's not what happened. It was 897 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: younger players been putting because positions to play that weren't 898 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:08,160 Speaker 1: necessarily ready to play. And with that, you know happening, 899 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,280 Speaker 1: you lose the knowledge of the position you're playing because 900 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:16,239 Speaker 1: now this player hasn't been there long enough to know 901 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: everything that's going on, but they're forced into playing now 902 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: because they may be a higher draft choice or something 903 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: like that. And you've seen that happen thirteen, seen it 904 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:30,000 Speaker 1: happening fourteen, and then when I came back in fourteen, 905 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm like Okay, it's sort of like the same defense. 906 00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: It was pretty much the same and then when the 907 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: fifteen road, it just totally changed. It was supposed to 908 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,680 Speaker 1: be the same defense, but they were changing parts of 909 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: the defense to fit what it is that they want 910 00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,040 Speaker 1: to do. And you can't do that. When you do that, 911 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,479 Speaker 1: you mess up the whole up each right, because each 912 00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: defense has a weakness just as each offense does, and 913 00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:59,480 Speaker 1: they have checks and adjustments to it. So for us, 914 00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 1: when you do that, you need to added another hole 915 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,560 Speaker 1: to the defense. If not two or three, and now 916 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: you have guys out of position, you have guys you know, 917 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: or not even out of position. It's just that the 918 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,200 Speaker 1: change puts them out of position and they can't get 919 00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:18,680 Speaker 1: to something else that would have been covered, you know, 920 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: otherwise Coach Bowl would tell us, Okay, we know what 921 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: this weakness is. I know what this weakness is. If 922 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,600 Speaker 1: this happens a we just got to rally to the ball. 923 00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:29,279 Speaker 1: They may get, you know, eight ten yards, you got 924 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: to make the tackle. And I think us trying to 925 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,239 Speaker 1: change that just you trying to cover up. You can't 926 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: cover up that play. You got, you got everything else cover. 927 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:38,840 Speaker 2: But if they get this one we might got to 928 00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:42,080 Speaker 2: just rally, catch and tackle quite another down, But trying 929 00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 2: to cover up everything is going to make a whole 930 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,520 Speaker 2: nother problem. Will I'll get you one thousand percent? 931 00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so, but uh, let's going on here that 932 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: Cleveland Cleveland say hey, should don't, should don't go be 933 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,560 Speaker 1: number one for the rest of the season. Joe, how 934 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: you feel about this? What took him so long? 935 00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 2: Joe? You tell me, I'm just as confused as you. 936 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:15,160 Speaker 1: Man. Listen, they had to have undeniable proof numbers. Yeah, 937 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,760 Speaker 1: where they could not. They could no longer say hey, 938 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,480 Speaker 1: it's week the week. Well, this man just went out 939 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: here and did something y'all ain't had done since nineteen fifty. 940 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: If you going there and say it's week to week, 941 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: we know you ain't for him, no, and like it's 942 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: just now. 943 00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 2: I mean, the good thing is Dylan Gabriel, he got 944 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 2: his starts out there, he had his chance to see 945 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:40,040 Speaker 2: if he could be the guy he ended up going 946 00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 2: down with a concussion. Now my man should gets the 947 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,399 Speaker 2: same opportunities. It's only his third start, and I'm not 948 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,520 Speaker 2: not this is from no practice with the first is 949 00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 2: none of that stuff. He's just showing that he has 950 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,600 Speaker 2: the ability to if he gets reps and continues to play, 951 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:55,799 Speaker 2: He's going this way. 952 00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: He's getting better. 953 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,400 Speaker 2: And I'm not saying none of these games have been perfect. 954 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 2: He still got things. He can do a whole lot better, 955 00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,960 Speaker 2: and I know that, and I know he knows that. 956 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 2: Pocket presence, being able to make a little bit quicker decisions, 957 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,719 Speaker 2: being able to spin out that slow spin, it just 958 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 2: gets me every time. But eyes down field being able 959 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,120 Speaker 2: to make those passes, I love it. 960 00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: So, I mean the good thing. 961 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,640 Speaker 2: It's gonna be a tough schedule coming ahead. I just 962 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,959 Speaker 2: wanted the team to be there for him because they're 963 00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,760 Speaker 2: mathematically eliminated right now. Debo, there's nothing that the Browns 964 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: can't go to the playoffs. I don't want people to 965 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 2: start cashing it in on them. He needs them and 966 00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,279 Speaker 2: needs everybody to be trying to go at the best 967 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:31,960 Speaker 2: of their abilities. 968 00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,160 Speaker 1: Right now. You can't. The season's kind of over. 969 00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,360 Speaker 2: But dudes, you better go play for the name on 970 00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 2: your back and play for you know what I'm saying, 971 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 2: just for the next team you may not be with 972 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,359 Speaker 2: the Browns or whatever. This is when you start having 973 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,400 Speaker 2: these are the talks, Gibo that we used to have 974 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,160 Speaker 2: to have. When you're mathematically eliminated, people get to worry 975 00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,280 Speaker 2: about the offseason, what they're about to do next year, 976 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,880 Speaker 2: Like no, no, no, no, no, for your door right now. 977 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,480 Speaker 2: He's gonna have a tough stretch of these last five games, 978 00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 2: so he's gonna need that for. 979 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,360 Speaker 1: Real, had a team with him, have everybody really locked 980 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,239 Speaker 1: in fighting for him and for their own job because 981 00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: you're pros and this is what you do. 982 00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,840 Speaker 2: Because I say that being in locker rooms that have 983 00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 2: been mathematic eliminated, you see people checking out. That's not 984 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 2: cool And I've never been that person. You are the 985 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,800 Speaker 2: guy don't lie. You are what you put on tape, 986 00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 2: and I never want to be that person. Like try 987 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,160 Speaker 2: to solve. No, what you see is what you get. 988 00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:21,919 Speaker 2: You want to do what you can do every single 989 00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,040 Speaker 2: time you put your best foot out there. But shit 990 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 2: gets weird when you're in locker rooms that are losing 991 00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,880 Speaker 2: and mathematic eliminated and people are looking. 992 00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:29,320 Speaker 1: For their jobs. 993 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,560 Speaker 2: Coach are trying to protect their jobs and really, like 994 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,560 Speaker 2: she gets weird in those locker rooms. So I just 995 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,040 Speaker 2: want them to stay motivated, still fight for your door, 996 00:51:36,080 --> 00:51:38,359 Speaker 2: because it's time. Like I think he can be the 997 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:41,400 Speaker 2: quarterback for the leading the leading quarterback for this franchise. 998 00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't know if the coach is going to be 999 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,359 Speaker 2: there with them. I think they need somebody who's going. 1000 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 1: To support your door be full, all in, want that swag, 1001 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,759 Speaker 1: want to help him be successful. So that's just a 1002 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,319 Speaker 1: whole nother thing for next year, but just continuing with 1003 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: this season, I need them to go out there and 1004 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 1: fight for him because you know, once you get mathematic eliminated, 1005 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:03,000 Speaker 1: people start acting funny, and I need them to block form. 1006 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: Protect them. Everybody try to get deals. Man, you may 1007 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 2: not be with the Browns, but just fight for that 1008 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:08,280 Speaker 2: next team. 1009 00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:10,840 Speaker 1: So that's what I got to say. Just trying to 1010 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: give my Browns some some hope, some love because your 1011 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:15,719 Speaker 1: door is gonna need it. You know what I'm saying 1012 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: For these next couple of games coming up. I understand 1013 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,600 Speaker 1: what you're saying, but I don't know the feeling of 1014 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,440 Speaker 1: it because I've never been in that situation where you're 1015 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,960 Speaker 1: just playing for nothing. You know, Bobobo, you're supposed to 1016 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 1: be my friend. I mean, can you I'm just saying, 1017 00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,399 Speaker 1: I know you know what? You know what Debo Joe, Joe, 1018 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: what Joe. You know what. That's why I know I'm 1019 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:43,200 Speaker 1: a real. I'm a real I am. I'm okay, Joe, 1020 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonnagg your house. You gonna my Wow. If you 1021 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: don't want nobody egging your house, then you go egg 1022 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: my house. I'm joking, Depot, I'm joking. You may me 1023 00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:54,239 Speaker 1: feel some type of way. You just let's get this. 1024 00:52:55,040 --> 00:52:57,479 Speaker 1: Let's get to the Super chat Man. Covenant Life is Bad. 1025 00:52:57,520 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 1: Covenant Life seven seventy three nine to seven donated fifty dollars. 1026 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:09,280 Speaker 1: I said today on watching from Saint Louis. From Saint Lucia, 1027 00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: Oh oh, she said today she watching from Saint Lucia. Ooh, 1028 00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:18,520 Speaker 1: send me some of that over here. Man that needs 1029 00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:24,040 Speaker 1: a great dB camp. Please please start and prepare yourself 1030 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:29,239 Speaker 1: for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. What's 1031 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,920 Speaker 1: the steal she say? Is she saying that we need 1032 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: to throw camp? Please start and prepare yourself for a 1033 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,720 Speaker 1: for the Steel Curtain Camp for Teenagers. Thank you. Hope 1034 00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,480 Speaker 1: to see you guys for the Steelers Baltimore game in January. 1035 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,960 Speaker 1: Are you ready for Miami? Of course, we are ready 1036 00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 1: for Miami. Yes, yes, yes, we are ready for Miami. 1037 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,480 Speaker 1: So are we to start a camp where she wanted 1038 00:53:59,520 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: to start? 1039 00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 2: She want It's either she wants us to start a 1040 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 2: camp devot or she's inviting us to the still curtain camp. 1041 00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 1: One of the two. We're gonna have to find out 1042 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,200 Speaker 1: letting to find out, you know what cover they is 1043 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,799 Speaker 1: gonna let us know, Yes, yes, coming to go. Let's 1044 00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,799 Speaker 1: know we're still praying for you now, definitely always so uh. 1045 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: Danny du Bois seventeen twelve. He donated fourteen bucks. He said, 1046 00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: Debo and Joe, you both have played for multiple teams. 1047 00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,520 Speaker 1: Do you still care about the other teams? Or are 1048 00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:35,040 Speaker 1: you both just black? And dude? You know we know, 1049 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:37,480 Speaker 1: we know Joe's answers. Go ahead, Joe, he does he 1050 00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: watch the show? You must not. 1051 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: You know I am split loyalties. I keep on saying it. 1052 00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 2: I got the Stealers and I got the Browns. I 1053 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:52,600 Speaker 2: love both. Now, Debo, what about you? 1054 00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:55,680 Speaker 1: Debo me? Huh Yeah, I'm black and gold all day? 1055 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,399 Speaker 1: You black and gold all day? You know I'm black 1056 00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: and gold all day. You ain't right going? So you 1057 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: I ain't got got I ain't got no. You have 1058 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,680 Speaker 1: no loyalty to them? Up, I ain't got Nathan non 1059 00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:07,520 Speaker 1: dollar zero. I ain't got you know what I'm saying. 1060 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,759 Speaker 1: I appreciate what they did for me. You said, okay, 1061 00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate all that. Now look here. If we can't 1062 00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,759 Speaker 1: get it, do I want one of them? GINTI yeah, 1063 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 1: because I feel good about you know what I'm saying. Yeah, 1064 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:26,800 Speaker 1: you gotta like if it's me, if if the steal 1065 00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: the black and Gold against Cincinnati back and Gold England, 1066 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,439 Speaker 1: I gotta go black and gold. Now, if they ain't 1067 00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,759 Speaker 1: in it, then I'm gonna go with the other. But 1068 00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:48,640 Speaker 1: if we going, we're going, You're going black and gold. Okay, 1069 00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,279 Speaker 1: no respect. Yeah, I got I got. I got to 1070 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,719 Speaker 1: go black and go. Look here, man, look Danny du 1071 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: Boys came back. He said, hey, Joe, you gotta pick one. 1072 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:58,839 Speaker 1: He donated fourteen for this. You gotta pick one, Joe. 1073 00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 1: He said, How you gonna make me pick something? How 1074 00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:09,560 Speaker 1: are you gonna make me pick something? I like both, 1075 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:14,359 Speaker 1: mister the boy, Hold on, Joe, what's up? Tell them? 1076 00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: I got your hat for you. So Geebo showing my hat. 1077 00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,680 Speaker 1: I just hope that teams have fun that that that's 1078 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 1: Joe right there, and and Covenant Life said she want 1079 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,919 Speaker 1: us to start the camp twenty. She says she wants 1080 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:31,680 Speaker 1: us to start the camp. We need to start the camp. 1081 00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 1: I'm more of a linebacker, but I'll help him out 1082 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:35,839 Speaker 1: if you want to start it though. 1083 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,719 Speaker 2: You know, I'm good with the quick feet. I'm you know, 1084 00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:41,160 Speaker 2: let me what's we're. 1085 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: Gonna say something this off season. We'll figure something out, Debo. 1086 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna figure it out for show. 1087 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:47,560 Speaker 2: Fish and I'm not against that. I love I love 1088 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,200 Speaker 2: doing the look. I love the camps. I did a 1089 00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:49,879 Speaker 2: couple of them things. 1090 00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 1: You had you a good time over there in Saint Lucia. 1091 00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:54,719 Speaker 1: Now look here, guys, we want to thank you for 1092 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,160 Speaker 1: joining us on this episode of Debo and Joe Hey, 1093 00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:03,880 Speaker 1: please liking subscribe. We're gonna be back here on Friday 1094 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:11,040 Speaker 1: after Thursday night. Yes, sir, we're talking more football. And 1095 00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:17,360 Speaker 1: you know what, I got two we got two sets. 1096 00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:23,080 Speaker 1: The two tickets come on Debo Monday nine for about 1097 00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:29,760 Speaker 1: us still as against the Miami Dolphins. And you know 1098 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:38,640 Speaker 1: what we don't like it? Dolphins. No, we train them 1099 00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 1: to do what we want, like Sea World, and we're 1100 00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: gonna be training some dolphins on Sunday. Oh sorry, on 1101 00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: Monday night. We go to night Dolphins on Monday night. 1102 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: They getting them ready for us. We're having jumping through hoops, 1103 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: we grab them doing things for us, like doing it. Joe, 1104 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 1: you ain't lying, de Bo, you ain't lying. We're gonna 1105 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,680 Speaker 1: whoop the Dolphins on Monday and we're gonna talk about 1106 00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:14,560 Speaker 1: it on Tuesday. Yes, sir, he me hoity mm hmm