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Speaker 1: From Mediators World News Headquarters in Bozeman, Montana. This is

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Speaker 1: Cal's wee Can Review with Ryan cal Callahan. Now Here's

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Speaker 1: Cal Highway and interstate rest stops have all sorts of

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Speaker 1: stories to tell. Fortunately I found a family friendly one.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife made a stop

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Speaker 1: at the West Sila rest stop to uh pick something

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Speaker 1: up instead of drop it off. You guessed it seems

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Speaker 1: someone abandoned a kinkajew, a nocturnal Central and South American

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Speaker 1: rainforest omnivore with a prehensile tail. The kinkajew aka the

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Speaker 1: honeybear aka Miko de noce aka Potus Flavius and not

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Speaker 1: aka pokemon can rotate their feet one and eighty degrees

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Speaker 1: in order to aid in running either direction forward or reverse,

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Speaker 1: up and down trees. Truth is stranger than fiction. What's

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Speaker 1: even cooler is this little critter is an excellent pollinator

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Speaker 1: as he hunts fruit, honey, and insects. His moniker Honeybear

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Speaker 1: suggests he likes the sweet stuff. As such, kinkajew have

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Speaker 1: five inch tongues for sipping nectar, and their dense fur

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Speaker 1: is a natural barrier to bee stings when they find

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Speaker 1: the honeypot. They get coated in bees and they can't

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Speaker 1: stay them. It's pretty sweet. Although they resemble a small monkey,

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Speaker 1: they are not related. In fact, they are closer to

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Speaker 1: raccoons and kuwatis. Great case of convergent evolution versus divergent

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Speaker 1: evolution right here, which really means Kinkajews grew up living

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Speaker 1: in and going after the same stuff a lot of

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Speaker 1: monkeys do, but that didn't make them a monkey. Wes

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Speaker 1: sila Hego Vikings is located just north of Yakima, Washington. Yakima,

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Speaker 1: a town once described by a former employer of mine

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Speaker 1: as quote a little is roughly two thousand miles north

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Speaker 1: of the northernmost Kinkjew's native range, which almost guarantees that

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Speaker 1: someone was trying to make a number two and left

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Speaker 1: their number one exotic pet behind. By the time Wildlife

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Speaker 1: Department officials arrived, the little fellow needed some medical attention.

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Speaker 1: He was underweight and dehydrated, which means you don't have

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Speaker 1: to be a native species to know the blue water

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Speaker 1: is bad. The IUC analyst the kinkajuw is a species

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Speaker 1: of least concern. However, their habitat is threatened, and as

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Speaker 1: you may have guessed the exotic pet trade is a booming,

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Speaker 1: with this cute little long tunned climbing criter just to

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Speaker 1: adopt an old dog from the shelter folks. This week

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Speaker 1: we've got all sorts of good stuff, regulation changes, wildlife,

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Speaker 1: crime and extirpation versus extinction, plus so much more. But first,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you about my week, and you know,

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Speaker 1: my week as packed as it can be. Currently writing

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Speaker 1: to you for I'm the Error and working my way

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Speaker 1: to Massachusetts to do some angling and work with backcountry

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Speaker 1: hunters and anglers and mass fisheries. I'm hoping to sling

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Speaker 1: some poppers and maybe even run out on a boat

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Speaker 1: for a blue fin tuna. However, the ocean is rarely

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Speaker 1: kind to me, and considering the hurricane activity, I'll keep

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Speaker 1: my expectations low. The point of this excursion is to

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Speaker 1: take a closer look at catch and release angling mortality

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Speaker 1: and its impacts on the striper fishery as a whole. Now,

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Speaker 1: to hedge my bets, I was able to get out

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Speaker 1: in my fly rod this Independence Day weekend and fish

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Speaker 1: some small cold water for trout. This is something I

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Speaker 1: used to do often, and honestly kind of maniacally walking

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Speaker 1: bend after bend and not leaving until the last of

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Speaker 1: the evening hatches were done, or not even them. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: I'd just take advantage of the darkness to drift and

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Speaker 1: swing streamers through the water I'd fished on the way up,

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Speaker 1: all the way back down under the glow of my headlamp,

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Speaker 1: end up back of the truck's sun. I earned bug bitten, tired, wet,

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Speaker 1: and scratched all over. Then I'd get up the next

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Speaker 1: morning and do it all over again. Now, as many

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Speaker 1: of you have found out, adulthood has changed this spectacular

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Speaker 1: and I suppose selfish way of living. More often than not,

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Speaker 1: we spend our angling days helping others, setting aside our

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Speaker 1: own fish catching so that a newcomer can feel that

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Speaker 1: tug have an experience that we've got to enjoy so

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Speaker 1: many times for the first time. It's pretty cool. I

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Speaker 1: was fortunate enough to grow up on the edge of

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Speaker 1: a trout stream just a short bike ride from home,

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Speaker 1: and I could be standing in a creek watching trout

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Speaker 1: rise anytime I really wanted to. I had a few

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Speaker 1: folks in my life that I could bug four bugs

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Speaker 1: and for the how to knowledge of tie in knots,

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Speaker 1: and that was really about it. It was left to

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Speaker 1: me to figure out a bunch more of the other

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Speaker 1: stuff that you know, you got to stack up in

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Speaker 1: order to learn how to catch fish. And I think

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Speaker 1: that was a good way to learn. It takes time,

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Speaker 1: but it makes the whole fishing game about figureiguring it out,

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Speaker 1: not catching. But we always try to get people hooked

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Speaker 1: on the catching, then ease them in to the figuring

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Speaker 1: it out part. The stream I was fishing was a

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Speaker 1: good example of decades of Montana bucket biology or fisheries

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Speaker 1: management from a bygone era. We caught rainbows, browns, brook trout,

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Speaker 1: and cutthroat trout. The bug life was prolific stone flies,

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Speaker 1: including a few giant late salmon flies, caddus and mayflies

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Speaker 1: of all sizes. And even though a general attractor pattern

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Speaker 1: like a chubby chernobyl perhaps would have caught plenty of

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Speaker 1: fish for the passing angler, what those trout really wanted

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Speaker 1: were emerging caddis and mayflies cripple patterns. If you will,

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Speaker 1: if you watch closely in between the smaller fish splashing

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Speaker 1: on the surface, you could see larger brown backs rolling

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Speaker 1: like Orca's nose just under the waters mouths open. It

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Speaker 1: was pretty magical, boys and girls, And boy did I

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Speaker 1: have the old feeling of just wanting to keep going.

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Speaker 1: Bend after band, logjam, beaver, pondek mouth, corner after corner.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is that might be my last day

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Speaker 1: of trout angling of the summer. In fact, I saw

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Speaker 1: Montana Fish, Wildlife and Parks just started rolling out the

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Speaker 1: old hoot owl restrictions, meaning that the water temps are

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Speaker 1: climbing and the water levels are dropping. Moving on to

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Speaker 1: the regulation desk, Illinois Governor JB. Pritzker permits four to

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Speaker 1: ten shotgun shells to be added to the acceptable sizes

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Speaker 1: of turkey shot in the Illinois state, which is a

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Speaker 1: great reminder for those who are already a fan of

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Speaker 1: subgages to be sure to check your and every other

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Speaker 1: state's regulations for lawful means of take or lawful harvest. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: the Land of Lincoln did not account for the four

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Speaker 1: to ten shot shell in its previous regulations regarding turkey hunting,

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Speaker 1: and now it does. Next up, the US Fish and

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Speaker 1: Wildlife Service just released Recovery Action thirty, or, as I

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Speaker 1: like to call it, a Tale of a few hooters.

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Speaker 1: Here's a quote from the recovery action, which is to

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Speaker 1: manage to reduce the negative effects of barred owls on

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Speaker 1: spotted owls. US Fish and Wildlife Service is implementing this

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Speaker 1: management through the development of a barred owl strategy. The

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Speaker 1: strategy will cover the ranges of the Northern and California

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Speaker 1: spotted owl subspecies using a landscape perspective. The approach and

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Speaker 1: recommended actions will vary across the landscape as appropriate to

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Speaker 1: the conditions and urgency in each region. Which doesn't sound

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Speaker 1: like a lot of real information, but more like a

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Speaker 1: lot of words. So here's the gist. We talk about

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Speaker 1: non native and invasive species a lot. Typically what comes

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Speaker 1: to mind is that a foreign species from other continents

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Speaker 1: have established them here on the ground or in the

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Speaker 1: soil of the United States. In this case, the barred owl,

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Speaker 1: which is also labeled as non native and invasive in

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Speaker 1: Recovery Action thirty, is in fact, as you all know,

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Speaker 1: native to the United States, specifically the Eastern United States,

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Speaker 1: not the Western United States. Barred owl has expanded its

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Speaker 1: range along with European settlement as we humans changed the

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Speaker 1: landscape and habitat that provided for the expansion of barred owls,

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Speaker 1: which seems natural enough until that range impacts the native

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Speaker 1: western owls, in this case, the spotted in California spotted owls,

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Speaker 1: those owls cannot hold their own against the larger and

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Speaker 1: more aggressive hooter. As such, and after the completion of

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Speaker 1: studies which determine that habitat work alone will not curb

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Speaker 1: the downward population trend of the spotted owls, it was

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Speaker 1: determined that barred owl population controls, as in shooting them,

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Speaker 1: would need to occur in the areas where the hooters overlap,

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Speaker 1: including Washington, Oregon, and northern California. If this action sounds extreme,

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of you wrote in saying that it

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Speaker 1: does sound extreme, you got to put it in the

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Speaker 1: context of our best guess is that if we don't

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Speaker 1: do something, the California spotted owl and the Northern spotted

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Speaker 1: owl will go extinct, which, if you want my opinion here,

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Speaker 1: it is we can't let species go extinct or go

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Speaker 1: on the list at bare minimum or a face value assessment.

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Speaker 1: We have an abundance of one hooter and not so

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Speaker 1: much of the other. We can run this experiment of

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Speaker 1: reducing one in order to help the other without causing

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Speaker 1: population level harm to the abundant species. Earlier in the year,

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Speaker 1: one of the population control options on the table is

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Speaker 1: to also include hunters in the program, but the public

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Speaker 1: hunting of bart owl's option appears to be well barred

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Speaker 1: for now. Currently, the maximum number of bart owls to

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Speaker 1: be killed would be four hundred and fifty thousand, which

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Speaker 1: is a lot. If this sounds like news to you,

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Speaker 1: it's not. The wheels of government move slow, and each

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Speaker 1: action has an associated public comment period. Those public comment

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Speaker 1: periods are included in the decision making process for this action,

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Speaker 1: going all the way back twenty twenty two. The next

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Speaker 1: step is the final review and an issuance of a

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Speaker 1: federal permit to carry out the action under the the

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Speaker 1: Migratory Bird Treaty Act, as well as state permits for

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Speaker 1: the removal of barred owls jumping north to Alberta residents

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Speaker 1: were recently informed that the province has just amended the

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Speaker 1: Wildlife Act to include the hunting of quote problem grizzly bears.

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Speaker 1: This controversial move is extremely interesting from my side of

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Speaker 1: the border. Here's why Alberta and Montana share a border

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Speaker 1: and we share grizzly bears as the Northern Continental Divide

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Speaker 1: Ecosystem or NCDE is and has been a free roaming

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Speaker 1: grizzly population stronghold. Alberta put a moratorium on the hunting

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Speaker 1: of grizzly bears in two thousand and six and listed

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Speaker 1: them as threatened in twenty ten after a population estimate

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Speaker 1: of only eight hundred and fifty bears was released. But

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Speaker 1: bears have been rebounding north and south of the border,

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Speaker 1: and as such, so have bear related incidents involving humans, vehicles,

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Speaker 1: and livestock, which reportedly is why the Alberta side of

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Speaker 1: the line is reopening for the hunt of problem bears.

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Speaker 1: And this is what makes my hairy eyebrows rays when

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Speaker 1: I hear this. And keep in mind, I want to

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Speaker 1: see this critter, which I find to be amazing, delisted

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Speaker 1: and huntable, and I would love to have a State

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Speaker 1: of Montana tag for the grizzly bear in my own

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Speaker 1: pocket one day, just for starters. If the Province of

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Speaker 1: Alberta is opening the door to utilizing licensed and legal

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Speaker 1: hunters for the removal of problem bears, how does the

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Speaker 1: licensed and legal hunter know what the problem bear looks like.

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Speaker 1: I'll more or less leave the rest up to you.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see the bears utilize for the meat

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Speaker 1: and the hides and everything else we can instead of

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Speaker 1: hit by a truck or a train or killed for

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Speaker 1: killing beef then thrown in a landfill. But I do

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Speaker 1: see pitfalls. As this thing is released, we'll learn more.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure Albertons who are in the know please write

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Speaker 1: in to ask cal at themediator dot com and let

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Speaker 1: me know. I am sure positive even that there will

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Speaker 1: be a lot of clarification on this one coming out

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Speaker 1: in the near future, if you can bear to wait

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Speaker 1: that long. From the State of Utah. This is just

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Speaker 1: a why regulations are the way they are PSA. Over

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Speaker 1: the fourth of July weekend eighteen thousand, eight hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty one boats were inspected for aquatic invasive species like

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Speaker 1: the quagga muscle, and nearly four hundred to decontaminations of

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Speaker 1: vessels were conducted, while only one hundred and sixty one

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