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Speaker 1: The One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, it's Thursday already here on Long Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you as always plenty to

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Speaker 2: get to today and we'll get the rundown to you

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Speaker 2: in short order. And we do want to begin with

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Speaker 2: this week's game sponsor. This week's game against the Patriots

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Speaker 2: is presented by Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster is the official ticket marketplace

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Speaker 2: of the NFL. We've got practice update updates because the

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Speaker 2: team's out on the field getting their first like real

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Speaker 2: practice going. They had a walk through yesterday. Coach McDermott

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Speaker 2: the last two Wednesdays has gone with the walkthrough session

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Speaker 2: on Wednesday because of the funky schedule coming back from

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Speaker 2: London last week. You got a game on Thursday next week,

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Speaker 2: so that's why he's kind of done the walkthrough thing

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Speaker 2: on Wednesdays. As you know, everything is played out in

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Speaker 2: that fashion. He wants to kind of alter the schedule

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Speaker 2: a little bit. So they're on the practice field today

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Speaker 2: as they normally are. And I gotta say it's good

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Speaker 2: without a red non contact jersey. He's out of the

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Speaker 2: concussion protocol, so that's encouraging to see. And among the

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Speaker 2: non participants, as we give you the bills practice updates

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Speaker 2: presented by leecom ther Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine,

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Speaker 2: your non participants are at Oliver with that toe injury,

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Speaker 2: Quintin Morris with the ankle injury, and then you have

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Speaker 2: Damien Harris who remains in concussion protocol. So those are

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Speaker 2: your three non participants. Everybody else on the injury report

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Speaker 2: is practicing in some capacity. Just what capacity we'll find

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it seemed well, despite the guys they've lost

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Speaker 1: back under them health wise. So I'm yeah, I still

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Speaker 1: think I'm you know, I'm still thinking about this game

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Speaker 1: this week as being one that they're going to need everybody,

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Speaker 1: all hands on deck. Yeah, and plus he got a

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Speaker 2: Sometimes as a coach, you have to play your cards

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Speaker 2: right with guys that are little that are a little

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Speaker 2: dinged but can play. Do you play them this week

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Speaker 2: in a game that count it's more for your AFC

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Speaker 2: turnaround because they need a couple extra days and just

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Speaker 2: play them on the following Thursday? Sit them this week.

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Speaker 2: Some interesting decisions that the coaching staff is going to

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Speaker 2: down this week. As for our schedule, today, schedule, as

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Speaker 2: they say in London. In about twenty seven twenty eight minutes,

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Speaker 2: we'll have ESPN NFL insider and football Fantasy football expert

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Speaker 2: Field Yates joining us for his ultimate fantasy lineup for

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Speaker 2: Week seven. Second hour of the show, we'll be talking

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Speaker 2: with Charles Davis, who will be calling the game with

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Speaker 2: Iron Eagle on CBS this weekend, so look forward to

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Speaker 2: that conversation. And then a little bit later in our

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Speaker 2: number two, we're gonna try for the second time to

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Speaker 2: track down one aj Epanessa, who has been on a

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Speaker 2: time have him here in studio, see what has been

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Speaker 2: the difference for him this year and being so dang

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Speaker 2: productive through the first six weeks of the season, as

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Speaker 2: So look forward to catching up with him. And then

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Speaker 2: as players make their way off the practice field to

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Speaker 2: the post practice podium, we will bring you any pertinent

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Speaker 2: lines are open on the Football Relationship Hotline. Eight oh

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Speaker 2: which by the way, is presented by Pepsi, the official

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Speaker 2: soft drink of the Buffalo Bills. You have football viewing

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Speaker 2: priorities this time of the year. Football is number one,

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Speaker 2: so everything else should theoretically take a back seat. But

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Speaker 2: we know there are things in your life that often

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Speaker 2: get in the way spousal relationship stuff, family and relative

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Speaker 2: solve those problems. So if you have an issue, whether

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Speaker 2: it's something compromising this weekend's game at one o'clock or

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Speaker 2: We have often worked out of these predicaments ourselves.

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Speaker 1: I anticipate this is going to be a rough season

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Speaker 1: It's because a lot of times, particularly these family events,

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Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is gonna be a rough year for

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And we've had some challenging calls so far this season.

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Speaker 2: Some of we had one last week we didn't have

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When we don't have a great solutions,

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Speaker 1: because it's your fault.

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Speaker 2: You can't.

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Speaker 1: You can't like you know, if you're it's your problem tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: Dude, what are you doing?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I know your priority right and liv got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you're if it's your fault that

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Speaker 1: So it's not it's a relationship with you and yourself.

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Speaker 2: To go one and six, Yeah, you think, Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: But there's no this is not a team that's also

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Speaker 1: Right, the Patriots of the Jets finished, Patriots were third light.

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Speaker 2: Did you? Yeah? Did you catch the Mac Jones press

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Speaker 2: Talk about a leadoff.

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Speaker 1: That's why players hate the media. You didn't have to

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Speaker 1: But no, he says you've sucked? Does it? Is it

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Speaker 1: Yeah you really think that guy want?

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Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. A reminder, Football Relationship

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Speaker 1: Class since the Raiders did it. Yeah, Raiders Sebastian Janekowski

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Speaker 1: I imagine it was a combination of a lot of things.

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Speaker 2: five fifty two five fifty is the number to get

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Speaker 2: on board. And we lead off with Jim in Jamestown.

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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Jim?

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Speaker 2: You're on one bills live.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't comment on a question. Comment is I

442
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 5: think Steve Sasker should be in the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 5: of Fame?

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Speaker 2: Fair enough, it's a it's a popular comquestion.

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Speaker 5: Is who do you like in the Dolphins Eagles game?

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Speaker 2: And why?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that is the game of the week, probably, right, Jim,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call. I'm obviously rooting for the Eagles

450
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:38,320
Speaker 2: here because you know, we need Miami to get some losses.

451
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: They are a game up on the Bills right now,

452
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Speaker 2: and among the other tie breakers besides head to head

453
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Speaker 2: that could come into play our record against common opponents.

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Speaker 2: So you know, the Bills have to play Philly letton

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Speaker 2: later this year, So you'd prefer that Miami loses to

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Speaker 2: the Eagles. That's the rooting interest. Who do we think

457
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Speaker 2: wins the game?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think Philly has a better roster all around

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Speaker 1: team than Miami. But you've always got to realize that

461
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Speaker 1: Miami is one of those special teams that can open

462
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Speaker 1: it up and open the lid on it.

463
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Speaker 2: And beat anybody run away from it.

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Speaker 1: They scored, and this game is at Philly, which is

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Speaker 1: a good thing for them, because Miami's scoring forty seven

466
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Speaker 1: points a game at home, forty seven points a game

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Speaker 1: in their building for three games. Yeah, so I know,

468
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Speaker 1: I get they got a seventy pointer in there, which

469
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: is you know, that helps the average, But they are

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Speaker 1: you know, run running off and leaving people. So I

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Speaker 1: think I see the Philly game a little bit like

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Speaker 1: I saw the Buffalo game. Miami's offense is better than

473
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Speaker 1: any one of the other four sides of the ball,

474
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Speaker 1: better than better than the Bill's defense, better than the

475
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Speaker 1: Bill's offense, better than the Miami defense. You know, they're

476
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Speaker 1: the best of the four sides of the ball, that offense.

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Speaker 1: But I think Philly is really good on all their's

478
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Speaker 1: two sides, right, So you'd.

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Speaker 2: Rank them Miami offense one, Philly offense two, Philly defense three,

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Speaker 2: and then Miami defense.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe Philly defense two and their offense one

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Speaker 1: or their offense three, those kinds. Yeah, but that's how

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Speaker 1: I see that, And I think Miami's defense is lagging behind.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are doing better rushing the passer of late.

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Speaker 2: I've noticed now they haven't played great teams. Their five

486
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Speaker 2: victories are against teams with a combined record of four

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Speaker 2: and twenty two.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers, the Giants, the Broncos, the Patriots, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the Chargers.

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Speaker 2: Those are four of the five worst teams in football.

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Speaker 1: Right, So I'm thinking Philly is gonna give them all

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Speaker 1: ay a handle, especially at home like that, and in

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Speaker 1: a game where Philly's kind of they're the super Bowl

494
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Speaker 1: team from the NFC last year. They're used to being

495
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Speaker 1: in moments like this. Yeah, I think I think they're

496
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Speaker 1: going to look forward to this game and do it now.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean Miami is not gonna have some success,

498
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Speaker 1: but yeah, I would pick Philly in it in the

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Speaker 1: game at home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder if Philly goes ball control on them,

501
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Speaker 2: because they can, well if they can, yes, just to

502
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Speaker 2: kind of slow them down off the field.

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Speaker 1: The Bills did that a little bit, you know, until

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Speaker 1: they you know, they they got up on them. But

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Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think I think Miami's defense still

506
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Speaker 1: is going to hurt them against an offense as good

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Speaker 1: as Phillies. Yeah, there's there's stepp Miami's a heavyweight.

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Speaker 2: I think Philly could win, but I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 2: if Miami did.

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Speaker 1: I guess, Yeah, I think it's You think it's gonna

511
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Speaker 1: be a close game. Yeah, I wouldn't. Yes, Miami is

512
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Speaker 1: a heavyweight, but they've been fighting lightweights and I think

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Speaker 1: they're finally.

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Speaker 2: There's a good test for them. Yes, this is it

515
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Speaker 2: didn't test up here in Week four, they did not.

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Speaker 2: Let's see what they can do.

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Speaker 1: And this also obviously was a road game too, So yeah,

518
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Speaker 1: I think Miami is a different animal at their place.

519
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Speaker 1: But you know they're not going to go away, right,

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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones and to Mark in

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Speaker 1: New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: What you got for us? Mark?

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Speaker 5: How you doing?

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Speaker 6: Guys?

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Speaker 5: This is Mark from Glen Rock, not not the Mark

526
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Speaker 5: who called you the other day from New Jersey. Okay,

527
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Speaker 5: But my son bought a house a couple of months ago,

528
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Speaker 5: and it was my wife's birthday just the other day,

529
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Speaker 5: and so she was talking to him and she said,

530
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Speaker 5: why don't we come up and you know, can you know,

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Speaker 5: have a little birthday party for me? And they took

532
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,600
Speaker 5: them around. She goes, how about Sunday? And I'm sitting

533
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Speaker 5: on the country saying no, no, no, no, it can't

534
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Speaker 5: be Sunday. The Bills are on Sunday, and she's and

535
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Speaker 5: and and so, and then it turns out she's a

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Speaker 5: Patriots fan because she's from Boston. And so now I'm

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Speaker 5: trying to get her to say, you know, we got

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Speaker 5: to go up on Saturday. So so how do I

539
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 5: how do I change manipulate this so that you know,

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Speaker 5: I can go to the Bills backers bar down the

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Speaker 5: street and watch the game on Sunday and not have

542
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Speaker 5: to go all the way to White Planes. So what

543
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Speaker 5: you know to put spackle on a wall and I

544
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Speaker 5: don't care about.

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Speaker 2: That is a dilemma.

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Speaker 1: Mark, you might have to Yeah. I hate to say

547
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Speaker 1: this because I don't want to. I don't want to

548
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: incite strife into your home. But you got to be

549
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: the squeaky wheel man. You can't let it you don't

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Speaker 1: let it drop.

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00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what I thought.

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00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta you gotta say listen, this ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: let's go. We're gonna we're gonna resolve this and it's

554
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: gonna go my way or is not right?

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Speaker 2: Uh, there's a way to do that diplomatically though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, be full of love and grace, but be

557
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: solid as a rock. Oh yeah, and you can't let

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00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 1: it drop. You got to say, listen this. You know,

559
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: we've got other plans that day. We've got to make

560
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: it another time.

561
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: Or well, there is the option of Saturday that that

562
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: door has been opened, so you have to walk through

563
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,880
Speaker 2: it and say, look, I'm I'm all too happy to

564
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: help with spackle a wall or whatever, but Saturday is

565
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,040
Speaker 2: my day to do that. Sunday is my day. And

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Speaker 2: you know, I think.

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Speaker 5: My wife is trying to get me, so I can't

568
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Speaker 5: wash the game because she's a Patriots fan.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, she's probably not super confident in her team.

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Speaker 1: Okay, if now, if it's a playful you know, jab

571
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: from her that she wants to do that, you make

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Speaker 1: sure it doesn't happen, and you make sure she's at

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Speaker 1: the Bills Bar with you. Oh yeah, turn it around

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Speaker 1: on her. Not only are we not doing this on Sunday,

575
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Speaker 1: you're coming to the Bills Bar with me, you Patriot

576
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: lover you. Oh yeah, so there, yeah, So I mean

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Speaker 1: I'm listen, I'm yes, that's right. I'm all for being

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00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: you know, listen, this is all playful fun. Uh but

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Speaker 1: that's you. You got to be gently immovable.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So that thanks for the call, Mark, hopefully that helps.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, be diplomatic. You know the relationship and what

582
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: buttons you can push without horrible repercussions. So you you

583
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: gauge the relationship and how far you can push it.

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Speaker 2: But as Steve said, Sunday is your day. So if

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Speaker 2: you want to offer up Saturday, do that as a

586
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 2: that's right now, it's also offering.

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Speaker 1: And also now that and it's and the key crucial

588
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: element of this is that it has not been set yet.

589
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: You don't have to. You can set it the way

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00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: you want it don't. You don't have to change it,

591
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: or you have to come up with an excuse or

592
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: whatever you got to. You gotta get out in front

593
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: of it like you are. If it hasn't been changed yet,

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00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: then it hasn't been set in stone yet. Then it

595
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Speaker 1: hasn't been set. Let's make it. We're gonna make it

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Speaker 1: a different time.

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Speaker 2: So good luck with that. Let us know how you

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Speaker 2: make out. We have to take a break here, but

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Speaker 2: we are taking your calls on the Football Relationship online today.

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Speaker 2: When we come back though, ESPN NFL insider Field Yates

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Speaker 2: join us, joins us with his ultimate fantasy lineup that's

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Speaker 2: next here on one Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right,

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: with you, and this time on Thursday can only mean

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Speaker 2: one thing. It's time for the ultimate Fantasy Lineup with

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Speaker 2: the ESPN NFL insider and fantasy football expert Field Yates,

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Speaker 2: presented by Fan Duel, an official partner of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Download the app today and make every moment more. How

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Speaker 2: are we doing, Field, gentlemen?

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Speaker 3: I am doing great. We've got a beautiful fall day

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Speaker 3: down here in Connecticut. I hope the same up there

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo. One of my favorite times of the year

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Speaker 3: is officially upon us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's beautiful here today too, as we so glad

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00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: you're enjoying it as well.

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Speaker 2: We have seen you take this approach before with these

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Speaker 2: ultimate fantasy lineups. It is yet another week where you

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Speaker 2: have decided to stack and it begins at the quarterback position.

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Speaker 3: That's correct, Patrick Mahomes ninety two hundred dollars a hefty

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Speaker 3: price tag for Mahomes, who has not been that good

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Speaker 3: this season. As a matter of fact, he's been very

622
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 3: much underwell in fantasy football for much of this year.

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Speaker 3: But it is a very very good matchup, that being

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Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Chargers, who I do not quite understand

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00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 3: how a defense with Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack and

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00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 3: Derwin James and several blue chip players can be as

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Speaker 3: consistently bad as the Chargers are, and yet there they are.

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Speaker 3: So while Mahomes has had a slow start by his

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Speaker 3: own expectations, I think this could be a get right

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00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: game for Mahomes. While it wasn't necessarily a super high

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Speaker 3: scoring game this past week, the Chargers did allow Dak

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Speaker 3: Prescott to have by far his best fantasy game of

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Speaker 3: the season, so they tend to be the cure for

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Speaker 3: what ails a struggling fantasy football quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll see more of this kc LA Charger

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Speaker 1: matchup later in your lineup. But for running backs, you've

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Speaker 1: got a couple of guys, which a little surprising to

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Speaker 1: me from the teams that they're on.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we're getting a lot of value here. So

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Speaker 3: we're spending less than eleven thousand dollars on two starting

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Speaker 3: running back Zach Evans first one Los Angeles Rams, and

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Speaker 3: with no Kirn Williams and no Ronnie Rivers, it's going

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Speaker 3: to probably be a healthy dose of Zach Evans this

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00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 3: upcoming weekend they play the Steelers. They did sign Miles

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Speaker 3: Gascion off of the Vikings practice squad, but when you

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Speaker 3: arrive to a new team on Thursday, I don't know

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Speaker 3: how much you can reasonably expect by Sunday for a player.

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Speaker 3: So Zach Evans, who was a draft pick out of

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Speaker 3: Ole Miss, pretty impressive player during his time with the

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Speaker 3: Rebels last season, went a little bit lower in the draft.

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Speaker 3: We'll see if he holds up in past protection. That

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Speaker 3: could be a way to get fewer snaps than more snaps.

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Speaker 3: That being said, a good opportunity and a great price.

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Speaker 3: As well as Roshawn Johnson for the Bears, who at

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Speaker 3: last check, is not yet practiced for Chicago. But as

656
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Speaker 3: we know guys with the concussion protocol, once you advance

657
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: out of it, good to go. So and that could

658
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: happen at any moment here with Roachewn Johnson, but again,

659
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: under six thousand dollars for starting running back, that's pretty

660
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 3: hard to ignore. The Bears have Tyson Bagent scheduled to

661
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,319
Speaker 3: be under center on Sunday against the Raiders. It's quite

662
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: logical to me that with an undrafted rookie making his

663
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Speaker 3: first ever started quarterback, you wouldn't turn hand the ball

664
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Speaker 3: off to your running back, even more so than you

665
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Speaker 3: would on a normal game in a normal Sunday, So

666
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: roacheon Johnson if he plays, I would be a valuable piece.

667
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 3: If he does not, of course, there are plenty of

668
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: pivots available for right around six thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we actually saw a Tyson Bagent at the end

670
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Speaker 2: of the preseason. Did a nice job. Was pretty impressed

671
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Speaker 2: considering he's a Division two kid. Did a nice job

672
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: and won that backup job. Okay, So through the wide

673
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 2: receiving corps. You know in the past, in past weeks,

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00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: Field you've you've sometimes spent big on at least one

675
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,839
Speaker 2: of them. This is a pretty budgetary approach though, all

676
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 2: things considered.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, Brownie. And that's in part because we spent

678
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 3: up at quarterback. You know, ninety two hundred dollars for

679
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes is that's two three thousand dollars more than

680
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 3: you could spend on a different quarterback who might be

681
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 3: the value played. But we tap into one of his receivers.

682
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 3: It's for she Rice, second round pick out of SMU,

683
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 3: who's trending up recently for the Chiefs. I mentioned earlier

684
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Speaker 3: just how great the matchup is for Mahomes. That applies

685
00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: to for she Rice and all pass catchers in Kansas City.

686
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: Beyond that, we have Darius Slayton for the Giants. We'll

687
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Speaker 3: see whether it's Tarad Taylor or whether it's Daniel Jones

688
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: on Sunday against the Commanders. But I don't know what

689
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 3: has happened to the Commanders this year. Defensively in the

690
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 3: back end, guys really really poortant performance so far. They

691
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 3: used the sixteenth overall pick on a player, excuse me,

692
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 3: sixteenth overall pick on a cornerback who ends up being

693
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Speaker 3: benched last week. Who would have thought that? Emmanual Forbes

694
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Speaker 3: in a Mississippi state and Kay, who had more picks

695
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:03,280
Speaker 3: six than any other player in D one football history,

696
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 3: was bench played zero snaps last week. That tells you

697
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Speaker 3: just how bad it's been in the secondary for the Commanders.

698
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 3: And then finally, Tyler Lockett and Arizona has been the

699
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 3: gift that keeps on giving to opposing passing games this season.

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Speaker 3: So Tyler Lockett for the Seattle Seahawks should be in lineups.

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Speaker 3: As you guys know from watching that Seattle offense for

702
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Speaker 3: the three or four years at Tyler Lockett and DK

703
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,439
Speaker 3: Metcalf have been together, it's a little bit up and down.

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Speaker 3: You don't exactly know what you're going to get every

705
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Speaker 3: single week, but the boom weeks for Tyler Lockett can

706
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 3: be especially large, and this feels like one where that

707
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Speaker 3: could be the case given how bad Arizona secondary play

708
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Speaker 3: has been.

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Speaker 1: And now you go back to the Seattle, I mean

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Speaker 1: to the Kansas City Charger matchup, and this one too.

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Speaker 1: With your tight end being Travis Kelcey, you spent a

712
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: ton of money on him, as you would think, but

713
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Speaker 1: it's also a point where you think Travis Kelcey might

714
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Speaker 1: be getting healthy. They're going against this defense, it's time

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Speaker 1: for him to kind of get back in the saddle.

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Speaker 1: I think even you know, off to what i'd call

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00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: it a sputtering start for the Chiefs, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's you know, five and one, that's

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Speaker 3: the good part. But it's because of the defense, not

720
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 3: the offense so far. And you know, for me to

721
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 3: spend up at quarterback or tight end is going to

722
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Speaker 3: require a pretty unique circumstance. For me to spend up

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Speaker 3: at both of them has to be a pretty awesome circumstance.

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Speaker 3: That tells you just how much I love this matchup

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Speaker 3: for the Chiefs against that Chargers defense that has just

726
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 3: been so bad all season. So give me Kelsey an

727
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:39,080
Speaker 3: eighty five hundred dollars. As you guys know, the Chiefs

728
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 3: have yet to find a wide receiver really step up

729
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 3: and become their number one, which means that Travis Kelcey

730
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: will continue to be their number one pass catcher by

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Speaker 3: a long shot.

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Speaker 2: In that offense, all right, and then your flex is

733
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Speaker 2: a job share guy, but he usually gets more of

734
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Speaker 2: the work. Been dinged up a little bit earlier in

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Speaker 2: the season. But you're expecting good things against Denver defense here.

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Speaker 3: Yep, that's Aaron Jones, who is going to be healthy

737
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Speaker 3: coming out of the bye week. Of course, missed that

738
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Speaker 3: game last Monday night the agreement Packers played the Broncos.

739
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Speaker 3: As you mentioned, Brownie, and Jones was excellence early in

740
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: the season when he was healthy. As a matter of fact,

741
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Speaker 3: he was the highest scoring running back and all of

742
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Speaker 3: fantasy in Week one. Excellent pass catcher and aj Dillon's

743
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 3: had a pretty unique opportunity with Aaron Jones out, and

744
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 3: I say, for fantasy and perhaps real life purposes, has

745
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 3: really underwhelmed. Has not done a whole lot to make

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Speaker 3: you feel like Aaron Jones is not going to have

747
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Speaker 3: his usual role upon his return. That will be happening

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Speaker 3: this Sunday. So good news for the Packers offense. Seventy

749
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Speaker 3: seven hundred dollars and he fits right into the flex.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe for the first time since we've been

751
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: doing this, you're picking the Bills defense certainly going against

752
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: the New England matchup which the New England offense has

753
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 1: just been abysmoal and the Bills have not been abysmal defensively.

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00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: They're good, yeah, and they keep doing it despite all

755
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 3: these injuries, right, and we'll see exactly how this looks

756
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Speaker 3: without Matt Mlano and Daikwon Jones when the opponents ramp

757
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:16,400
Speaker 3: up a little bit. But the Bills just continue to

758
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 3: find a way. A testament to the personnel that Brandon

759
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 3: Bean has acquired, a testament to the coaching job of

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Speaker 3: Sean McDermott and the entire defensive staff. I mentioned earlier.

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Speaker 3: I don't often pay up for quarterback. I don't often

762
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: pay out for a tight end. I very rarely pay

763
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 3: up for a defense. This is the rare occasion. And

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Speaker 3: that's because the Bills have been excellent on defense and

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Speaker 3: the Patriots have no identity whatsoever on offense other than

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Speaker 3: I suppose being bad on offense. But they're dead last

767
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,840
Speaker 3: and turnover margin as well. They have been a turnover

768
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: machine so far this season, and I'm not talking about

769
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Speaker 3: that in the good way. So this Bill's defense should

770
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 3: be in for a field day down there at the

771
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Speaker 3: Led Stadium on Sunday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, where you know, you're living in the New England area.

773
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Speaker 2: We've seen some rumblings of this already. You know, the

774
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Speaker 2: future of Bill Belichick. He's been stuck on two hundred

775
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 2: and ninety nine wins since like week three and at

776
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Speaker 2: one in five. They haven't been there in thirty years.

777
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:22,320
Speaker 2: What do you sense? You think this is just media

778
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: speculation or do you think it goes deeper than that

779
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 2: concerning his future?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that you have to just look at

781
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 3: the basic realities of the NFL and when a team

782
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Speaker 3: is performing like the Patriots are, unless it's you know,

783
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Speaker 3: year one of a rebuild, when you have a rookie

784
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 3: quarterback or you you know, you don't have a quarterback

785
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: available because of injury, you're gonna be under the gun.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be under fire. And this is not,

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Speaker 3: in my estimation, a conversation that is about looking backwards

788
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Speaker 3: and reflecting on how great of a coach Bill Belichick

789
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: was or deciding whether he was more responded Tom Brady

790
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: like that to me is not at all relevant to

791
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: this conversation. The question going forward that the Patriots have

792
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 3: to ask an answer is is Bill Belichick the right

793
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 3: person to navigate this team? Up from where it is

794
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,399
Speaker 3: right now to where we'd like to get back to.

795
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 3: They are completely beref of talents. I would say they

796
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 3: have two blue chip players, Christian Gonzalez their first round

797
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 3: pick this past year, and Matthew Judon, their best defensive player.

798
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 3: Both of them are on ir right now and not

799
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 3: going to be available for potentially the entire season. So

800
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Speaker 3: major lack of talent multiplied by just like a question

801
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 3: market quarterback that is the size of the entire New

802
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: England region and a division that looks like it's going

803
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 3: to be outstanding for a long time. So there are

804
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 3: some uncomfortable questions that are being asked right now in

805
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: New England that for the past twenty two years have

806
00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 3: been borderline unfathomable. But the NFL has a every clear

807
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: set of circumstances that typically prevail, and that's when a

808
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: team is struggling, the coach is going to be the

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Speaker 3: first person that we are talking about as it pertains

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Speaker 3: to what could change during the off season. So a

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Speaker 3: fascinating a few months ahead in Norland.

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Speaker 2: Right Field, thanks as always, we appreciate it. Thanks for

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Speaker 2: the ultimate fantasy lineup. We'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 7: Lou Hey, good day, good afternoon, gentlemen. First of all,

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Speaker 7: I am a pilgrim in a foreign land. Oh boy,

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Speaker 7: Chris and Steve, oh yeah, and it's worse of that, Steve.

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Speaker 7: And by the way, I'm a big fan of Steve

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Speaker 7: and Chris. I've been listening to you guys for years.

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Speaker 7: Every day I live in Dallas for forty five years.

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Speaker 7: I'm a Bills only fan. After the last playoff, I

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Speaker 7: put my flag out front, and I was proud to

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Speaker 7: keep it up. It's been up all day every day

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Speaker 7: since then. I come home last week and there's a

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Speaker 7: Bills flag down the street. So I'm excited. I've been

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Speaker 7: to have somebody that's gonna be able to enjoy the

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Speaker 7: Bills games with me, and I do have the ticket

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Speaker 7: and whatever you know it is this year. So I

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Speaker 7: go down to my neighbor's door. I knock on it

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Speaker 7: and I said, hey, I noticed you got a Bills fan.

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Speaker 7: I'm really excited. I wanted to invite you your husband

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Speaker 7: over for the game. And she says, oh, he's not

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Speaker 7: a fan. I am, he's he's a Cowboys fan. So

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Speaker 7: I said, well, I'd like to invite you guys both

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Speaker 7: over anyway. So here's my question. I'm married too, by

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Speaker 7: the way, what do I do if she shows up alone?

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Speaker 7: She's a pretty good looking lady, she wants to watch

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Speaker 7: it with me. What do I do?

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Speaker 1: You As fine, as long as you sit there with her,

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Speaker 1: hold your wife's hand while you're doing it, that's fine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think as long as yeah, all yeah, I

869
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: think as long as you're on as far away from

870
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: each other in the seated area of your room, you know,

871
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 2: not getting comfortable, shall we say? I think you're okay?

872
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: And I think the first thing you ask when she

873
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 2: does come over, I think the first thing you ask is, hey,

874
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 2: you know your husband knows he's more than welcome, right,

875
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:49,359
Speaker 2: like almost like lay that out there as groundwork right

876
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: from the jump. Yeah, that's uh, that's an interesting one,

877
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 2: that's that. Yeah, I could see why you called Lou.

878
00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: I don't I don't blame you on that. That's a

879
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 2: tricky one, and I would make sure that you know

880
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 2: your wife is someone you kind of keep in contact

881
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 2: with through the course of the afternoon, provided she's home,

882
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 2: and hopefully she is home, because if she's not, then

883
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,840
Speaker 2: it gets even a little more precarious.

884
00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, as long as it's well, as long as

885
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: everything's appropriate of ave board, no problem.

886
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, that'd be no problem. But I just thought

887
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 7: it wanted to look bad, and you guys have such

888
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 7: great advice for everybody. I figured i'd call you and

889
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 7: do exactly what you tell me.

890
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

891
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 2: No, that's a good one, but yeah I would. I

892
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: would just make sure you're in designated areas in the room,

893
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: and then after that, high fives are cool, but I

894
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 2: don't think we go anywhere beyond high fives. Right, that's

895
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,319
Speaker 2: probably your only physical contact during the game.

896
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 7: If it turns out bad, I'll just say Steve told

897
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:51,360
Speaker 7: me to do it.

898
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: Well.

899
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, whatever works. Good luck with that, Lou. We'd

900
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 2: love to know how it turned out, but hopefully it'll

901
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 2: be you get another fan and to cheer along with you.

902
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 2: It kind of makes the whole experience better. So good

903
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: luck with that. Thanks, I appreciate it, all right, that

904
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 2: was a good one. That's that's unique. Yeah, the spouse

905
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,319
Speaker 2: is on both sides of the equation, not interested in

906
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 2: Bill's football.

907
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: That's that's there's a friendship in there somewhere, there.

908
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 2: Is, there is, and I would like to think that

909
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: at this day and age, people can handle platonic relationships

910
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 2: with people of the opposite gender.

911
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I'm yeah, I'm totally with it.

912
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 2: Let's go to Jack in cheek towagan X. What do

913
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 2: you have for us?

914
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Jack?

915
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 4: Well, I'd like to get out of Dallas as quick

916
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,400
Speaker 4: as possible. Uh. My question asked to do with a

917
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 4: football relationship. That has to do with this past Sunday

918
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 4: Nights game. I always after game, Okay, did not see

919
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 4: the after game exchange between McDermott and davell or Ever.

920
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 4: I saw film clips of it, and it seemed like

921
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:07,839
Speaker 4: a very cold, quick exchange, and it seemed to have

922
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 4: been initiated by McDermott. He was in and out of

923
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 4: there in a flash. Davo seemed a little surprised. So

924
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:19,919
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering whether Steve has any input on what

925
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 4: could Davo have done from a coaching standpoint that might

926
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 4: have violated some gentleman's agreement about what happens when an

927
00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 4: offensive coordinator and some coaches and some players leave for

928
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: an opposing team, you wind up playing a game the

929
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 4: next season. And I just was kind of left wondering,

930
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:46,319
Speaker 4: you know, about that exchange or non exchange, and what

931
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 4: might have caused that stealing signals whatever. And that's why

932
00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 4: I'm thinking Steve might have some you know, input into that.

933
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 4: There's anything and all answered or listen to your answer.

934
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything you can read into it,

935
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: like something happened during the gamer and the lead up

936
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: to it. I don't think any of that's going on.

937
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: I think it's more one thing. It's what a bitter

938
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: game it was for you know, it was hard for

939
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: the Bills fans to watch, and particularly the way it left,

940
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,720
Speaker 1: the way it ended for Giant for the Giants, particularly

941
00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 1: with the fans thinking that there should have been a

942
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,399
Speaker 1: penalty on that last play and given him one more

943
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: shot at winning it, and day Ball looked like he

944
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 1: was when I saw Dabele before the handshake with McDermott.

945
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 1: He was not a happy camper in that moment anyway,

946
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: so I wouldn't read too much into it. Although you know,

947
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: who knows how their personal relationship is. I certainly don't.

948
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: I have no reason to think they hate each other.

949
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: But that was a tough game, and I think there's

950
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: probably that as much to do with it as anything.

951
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:51,439
Speaker 2: And I would say I think Sean McDermott, like most

952
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: coaches in the league, has as much respect for his

953
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: adversaries as anybody else, and he's been on the wrong

954
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 2: side of those games too, And and I think to

955
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: be all happy, go lucky, handshakey conversational after a game

956
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 2: like that is probably not the right move. So I

957
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 2: think if you're on the right side of that game,

958
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 2: and if you've coached as long as Sean McDermott has,

959
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: which is over twenty years in this league, he's been

960
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,919
Speaker 2: on the wrong side of those games too. He knows

961
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,440
Speaker 2: that people aren't much for talking when you lose a

962
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 2: game like that, and so I almost think, out of

963
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: respect for the situation at hand, in how the game ended,

964
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,760
Speaker 2: it's probably best to just do a quick, cordial handshake

965
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 2: and move on and I think that probably had as

966
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 2: much to do with it as anything.

967
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: I don't know that I doubt this happened, but you

968
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: in regards to how coaches handled that kind of stuff,

969
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:52,400
Speaker 1: I know Bill Belichick has been caught when he was

970
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: miked up for a game that he told Josh McDaniel

971
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: think to where a Denver McDaniel's first go around, and said, hey, listen,

972
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,480
Speaker 1: i'll call you after the game. And I don't want

973
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: to make too much of this handshake after the game,

974
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: no matter how this goes, okay, so I'll call you later.

975
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 1: So they kind of set that up. I don't know that,

976
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,799
Speaker 1: and I'm sure I don't think that happened between day

977
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: Ball and McDermott, but they're we out here tend to

978
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: put more in those handshakes than the coaches actually do.

979
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 1: I think it's more perfunctory. I remember one time when

980
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 1: I was a rookie, no, I was a second year player.

981
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: We were playing the Raiders. Now I might have been

982
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: a rookie year laid in my rookie year, and Jerry

983
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: Glamville was the head coach of the Oilers, and and

984
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:41,040
Speaker 1: Tom Flores was the coach of the Raiders, and they

985
00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: never got within fifty yards of each other after the game.

986
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 1: But Jerry looked at him and went like and just

987
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: kind of waved his hands at Ay. And Tom had

988
00:51:49,840 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: this clipboard and you know, had some paper his cards

989
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: in his hand. He like waved. He just went their

990
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: separate ways and there was nothing, you know, animosity, joint,

991
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: no big thing like hey, I got you, you know,

992
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:07,240
Speaker 1: and that was it. I think these days.

993
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 2: Treated a lot differently by the media.

994
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,840
Speaker 1: Now, Yes, it would, and I think it's it's almost

995
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: it's customary now to expect it has not always been

996
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: that way.

997
00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 2: That's interesting. I did not know that. Uh, And that's

998
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: one to grow on everyone. We have to take a

999
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 2: break here our number two, though, we will have one

1000
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: of the men in the broadcast booth who will be

1001
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: calling the game for the NFL on CBS one, Charles Davis,

1002
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: will be joining us in our number two. We look

1003
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 2: forward to that conversation coming up here shortly on One

1004
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,840
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1006
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1007
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,080
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1008
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you good to have you with us.

1009
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: The Football Relationship Hotline is open for you at ATO

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1011
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 2: five fifty. We will have Charles Davis joining us in

1012
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 2: just a little bit. Look forward to that conversation. He's

1013
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 2: calling the game on the NFL on CBS this Sunday

1014
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 2: in Foxborough. Bill's Patriots, So we'll talk to him about

1015
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: the match up here shortly. But let's get back to

1016
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: the phones open line for you at ATO three oh

1017
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 2: five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty.

1018
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 2: But we go to Bob in Buffalo next. What do

1019
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: you got for us? Bob?

1020
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 8: Gentlemen? You the guy that invited the couple over for

1021
00:53:57,719 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 8: the Bills game. My wife was watching segment with me

1022
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 8: and she said, if that lady shows up alone, it

1023
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 8: will not go well for that guy, no matter what.

1024
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 8: That's right, Because I asked her, I said, what would

1025
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 8: you think about that? And she goes, don't you remember

1026
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,640
Speaker 8: the White on twelve episode two weeks ago? And it

1027
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,960
Speaker 8: did not go well for him. It wouldn't go well

1028
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:20,799
Speaker 8: for you either.

1029
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 2: So what are you what are you referring to the

1030
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 2: old sixties cops.

1031
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 9: Show oh yeah, Yeah. It was an episode where guy

1032
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,240
Speaker 9: in waited a lady he used to ride the bus

1033
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 9: to work with and she loved football. He loved football.

1034
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:37,120
Speaker 9: His wife did that and she she's they call the

1035
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: cops because the wife thrown out.

1036
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 2: Oh oh boy.

1037
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 1: I hope that everything we said, if yeah, this is

1038
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,399
Speaker 1: to be there.

1039
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know, granted it was fifty some years ago,

1040
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 8: but my wife goes it still goes.

1041
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 1: It still goes there. Well, that's the thing. You gotta

1042
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 1: you gotta get it, okay from both spouses.

1043
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: That's sure, right, all right, that's that's a that's a

1044
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 2: good warning to heat there. Bob well taken. Yeah, I was.

1045
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,319
Speaker 2: I'm kind of hoping I think it was lou right

1046
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 2: low and Dallas. I'm kind of hoping his wife is

1047
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: in the house just kind of puttering around and stuff,

1048
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, or doing something else if

1049
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 2: she's not watching the game with them, Because yeah, I

1050
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 2: want to believe people can just have a platonic relationship

1051
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: and share the joys of Bill's football. But maybe I'm

1052
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 2: a little too naive. I don't know. We do want

1053
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 2: to get to the tweetsheet because we did have some

1054
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 2: submissions there for the Football Relationship Hotline people that could

1055
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 2: not call in, and as we said, Football Relationship Hotline

1056
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 2: is presented by Pepsi, the official soft drink of the

1057
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. Jeremy has this one, Steve. He says, I

1058
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 2: will be doing military the next three games. I will

1059
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: be in a classroom setting. Fortunately, How should I go

1060
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:57,520
Speaker 2: about having the game on my phone all while simultaneously

1061
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,120
Speaker 2: paying attention in class and not having an outburst of

1062
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 2: joy or anger depending on the play this military? Yeah,

1063
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you want to mess with military exercises.

1064
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: And I would do all, I wouldn't do it.

1065
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're gonna have to hit the old d

1066
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 2: v R on that one, I think, or if you

1067
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 2: have NFL Plus watch it back on replay, that that's

1068
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 2: probably going to be your course of action. I don't

1069
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 2: think we we want to advocate you shirking your military

1070
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 2: duties for the sake of football. That might be where

1071
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 2: we have to draw. Sure, Yeah, I wouldn't advise that one, Jeremy.

1072
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: I'm sorry we don't have a better answer for you,

1073
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: but that that might be.

1074
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that's a little bit of a trump card.

1075
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 2: That Yeah, I think you've got to stick to what's

1076
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:58,640
Speaker 2: going on in class with that respectively. A lot of

1077
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 2: these a lot of people are gonna have prob because

1078
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 2: you got a lot of these primetime games coming up,

1079
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,440
Speaker 2: and they are going to present issues for people, especially

1080
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 2: next Thursday. Next Thursday is going to be a major

1081
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 2: scheduling conflict for some people from nowhere times anywhere. They say,

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Speaker 2: here is my request for help. I live in New England.

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00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 2: I drove to see the Bills crush the Raiders, an

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00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 2: eight hour drive for me, and got to meet Chris

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00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Brown in early tailgate mode. Oh okay, I can't find

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Speaker 2: a wingman to join me. I'm assuming for this week's

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00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 2: game at Jillette. Why shouldn't I drive three hours to

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Speaker 2: watch the Bills at you' let solo. I don't think

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Speaker 2: there's anything that should keep you from going to a

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Speaker 2: Bills game by yourself. I would like to think you'd

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Speaker 2: be able to find some Bills fans in the parking

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Speaker 2: lots and then maybe just latch onto them, at least

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00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:52,560
Speaker 2: for the tailgate, because as we know, Bill's mafia is

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 2: oh is very welcoming to other Bills fans, no matter

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00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 2: where you're coming from, the only risk you run is

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00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 2: if you your seat is in a section where there

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00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 2: are zero Bills fans, which could happen at you. Let

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's a distinct possibility. I would say

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Speaker 2: that is the only risk you run, especially if you're

1100
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: gonna come deck down in Bills gear.

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and that's then it's on you to behave

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Speaker 1: in a manner that doesn't get you tossed over the side.

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00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. So that's that's the only risk you run. But hey, man,

1104
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: if you're confident enough to go by yourself, go ahead.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll have a good tailgate experience because I

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00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: would expect there to be a healthy number of Bills fans.

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Speaker 2: We know there are a lot of transplants in the

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Speaker 2: Boston and New England area from Buffalo and western New York.

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,560
Speaker 2: The game is the only situation you have to be

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00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 2: mindful of and just conduct yourself in a way that

1111
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 2: doesn't draw unwanted attention to you, because we know the

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Speaker 2: nickname for a lot of people up in the state

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Speaker 2: of Massachusetts, and they tend to surface at Patriots games,

1114
00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 2: especially when things aren't going right. Time for us, Now, though,

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Speaker 2: to turn to the guy who's gonna be calling the

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Speaker 2: game for the NFL on CBS with Iron Eagle and

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Speaker 2: sideline reporter Evan Washburn. It is Charles Davis joining us

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00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: here on the show. Okay, Charles, we got to begin

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Speaker 2: with the Bill's opponent here, the Patriots. They are one

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Speaker 2: in five through their first six games for the first

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Speaker 2: time since nineteen ninety five. It's been a minute. There's

1122
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 2: a lot that's not right to What do you attribute

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Speaker 2: the biggest what's the biggest attribute to the struggles that

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Speaker 2: the Patriots are experiencing right now?

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Speaker 6: Chrissy, one in five?

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Speaker 10: It just doesn't roll off the tongue when you said

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00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 10: one in five New England Patriots, does it? I mean,

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Speaker 10: it's just it's hard to fathom. But when you're asking what,

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 10: you know, what we can attribute it to? I said

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Speaker 10: last year when we watched them play and we had

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Speaker 10: them a couple of times down the stretch, I'm gonna

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Speaker 10: stay on the offensive side of the ball to begin

1133
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Speaker 10: because defensively, they've continued to be good even with the struggles.

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Speaker 10: You know, they's still, believe it or not, a top

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Speaker 10: ten ranked defense. So somehow they've managed to do that

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Speaker 10: with Matthew Judon being hurt, you know, with with with

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Speaker 10: with josh Uce not being able to play full time

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Speaker 10: yet but still getting it done. But offensively, they have

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Speaker 10: players you respect, but do they have players you fear?

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Speaker 10: And that's where I think the issue is for them offensively.

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01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:28,800
Speaker 10: The offensive line shuffle well documented now, all right. I

1142
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Speaker 10: think they've started five different combinations or they have used

1143
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Speaker 10: five different combinations of offensive linemen. Two rookie guards have

1144
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 10: been on the field a lot in Antonio maffe and City,

1145
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:43,880
Speaker 10: so you know, left tackle Trent Green's there for the

1146
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Speaker 10: most part, missed a game they had to use Vederian

1147
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Speaker 10: low of it left tackle. He's also played right tackle

1148
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Speaker 10: a lot. Riley Reef, who you guys know from various

1149
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,440
Speaker 10: teams and a former first round pick, has played guard

1150
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Speaker 10: this year. He's never played guard in his life before

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01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:59,800
Speaker 10: he's had to play guard. The only guy who's been

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Speaker 10: insistant and played it all the way there, it's been

1153
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 10: David Andrews. He's taken every snap at center, so that's

1154
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 10: been an issue running it. Ramandre Stevenson not at the

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Speaker 10: same level he was last year, but we know he's capable.

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Speaker 10: Ezekiel Elliott, we know how great he's been in the past,

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Speaker 10: but they haven't had that consistency throwing it. Mac Jones

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Speaker 10: hasn't had time to throw it. And then when he

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Speaker 10: is throwing it, who's making the plays? Who's breaking things

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Speaker 10: for them?

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Speaker 6: Again? Plenty of players you know, plenty of names you respect.

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Speaker 6: Who do you fear? And if you don't fear someone in.

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Speaker 10: This league, it's really hard to get a defense back

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Speaker 10: on its heels.

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Speaker 1: And if you continue to down that road and you

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Speaker 1: look at you, you haven't done the Bills yet this year,

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Speaker 1: and they've had gotten two games out of the blocks

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Speaker 1: where they've been a slow start offensively, and they're playing,

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Speaker 1: like you said, a top ten defense. I mean, how

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Speaker 1: does this game go? I mean, if you're the Bills

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Speaker 1: walking in there, you can't be thinking, despite what the

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Speaker 1: gam everybody think, this is a top ten defense. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna it's gonna be a dogfight. It's a division game.

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Speaker 1: They know you very well. The Bills have had a

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Speaker 1: nice run against the Patriots six out of the last seven,

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Speaker 1: but rarely do they run off and leave these guys.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what do you think this game is gonna

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Speaker 1: look like?

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Speaker 2: Steve?

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Speaker 10: You've been involved in these so many times, right, especially

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Speaker 10: with the offenses you played with in Buffalo. How many

1182
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Speaker 10: times did you run into teams that just wanted to

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Speaker 10: make it as grimy as possible for you?

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Speaker 6: Right, They wanted to muck it up as much.

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Speaker 10: Right, it's not just being physical, but also if their

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Speaker 10: offense can do anything to possess the football, slope, things down,

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Speaker 10: limature possessions, all of those things, that's what kicks in.

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Speaker 10: The Other part is you remember last week Denver and

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Speaker 10: Kansas City. I'm the Thursday nighter. Remember early in the ballgame,

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Speaker 10: Kansas City drives and it comes up a fourth down.

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Speaker 10: Instead of kicking the field goal, they faked it and

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Speaker 10: didn't get it. I think part of it is just

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Speaker 10: not pressing, you know. Sometimes I think Kansas City was like,

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Speaker 10: we just need to knock these guys. They're not that great,

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Speaker 10: let's just knock them out. And you mentioned pressing before, Steve.

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Speaker 10: I think Kansas City pressed it. I don't know that

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Speaker 10: Buffalo needs to do the same thing. Because you look

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Speaker 10: at New England. You've got them in a position where

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Speaker 10: you feel like you have them out talented, but you

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Speaker 10: don't have to go down there on your first possession.

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Speaker 10: If you don't get a touchdown all of a sudden

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Speaker 10: going to, oh my god, what are we going to do?

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Speaker 6: That plays in the New.

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Speaker 10: England's hands, because if I'm New England, you know how,

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Speaker 10: I'm playing this game like it's the Windy Game on

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Speaker 10: a Monday Night during COVID where Mac Jones threw it

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Speaker 10: three times. I want to play that type of a

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Speaker 10: ball game. I want that game close to the best.

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Speaker 10: I want physical, I want slow. I can't let Buffalo

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Speaker 10: sprint out, and Buffalo, I think their mindset just has

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Speaker 10: to be we don't have to go out and make

1212
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Speaker 10: it a track meet right away. It can naturally take

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Speaker 10: take its own, take take that, take that aura on itself.

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Speaker 6: If we just do the things we normally.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So with that in mind, flipping it over to

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Speaker 2: Buffalo's defense, they are trying to kind of triage a

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Speaker 2: situation of losing three players that were playing at an

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Speaker 2: all pro level over the last three weeks from their

1219
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Speaker 2: lineup indefinitely. You know, in Daikwon Jones, Matt Mulano and

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Speaker 2: Trudevius White last week, I mean they won the game

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Speaker 2: for all intents and purposes against the Giants, did not

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Speaker 2: give up a touchdown and they're playing an offense that

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Speaker 2: has had some similar struggles in the Patriots to that

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Speaker 2: of the Giants. What do you believe because their run defense,

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Speaker 2: Charles like, statistically it doesn't look good. I would say

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Speaker 2: on the whole, it's been pretty good against the run.

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Speaker 2: They just they let these big plays leak out every

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Speaker 2: once in a while and exkews the stats. So do

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Speaker 2: you think that this Bill's defense, as they're filling in

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Speaker 2: roles here from players they've lost, is capable of slowing

1231
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Speaker 2: down this Patriots run game that's gonna want to carry

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Speaker 2: them through the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think they certainly are, because I think you're

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Speaker 10: right about it, Chris, about the plays that leaked out

1235
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Speaker 10: like laid in the game in London etn. Coming out

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Speaker 10: of the backfield and getting a chunk play. You know,

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Speaker 10: the backs that New England we expect to present would

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Speaker 10: be Remondre Stevenson, Ezekiel Elliott. They're not going to fool

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Speaker 10: you a heck of a lot. They're coming at you right,

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Speaker 10: so you know what you're dealing with there. I think

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Speaker 10: what'll be interesting for me is to see what the

1242
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Speaker 10: defensive tackle rotation is for Buffalo because Ed Oliver I

1243
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,760
Speaker 10: think is playing his best football. But how many snaps

1244
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 10: did he play? You know when people got hurt? Can

1245
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 10: they continue to limit that a little bit? So he's

1246
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:48,560
Speaker 10: not playing eighty five percent of the snaps in a

1247
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Speaker 10: ball game. And then you look up in December January

1248
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,919
Speaker 10: and he doesn't have what he normally has. That's where

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,400
Speaker 10: Jordan Phillips has to fill in and play well. That's

1250
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Speaker 10: where Tim Settle has to come in and play well.

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Speaker 10: Gotten what they've wanted out of poona Ford yet he's

1252
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Speaker 10: been inactive a lot. I don't think they're going to

1253
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 10: be in active for a while now. He's got to

1254
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,640
Speaker 10: come out and play. I think you're right about it.

1255
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Speaker 10: Some of those runs have leaked, but the numbers don't

1256
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 10: look great. But to me, if I'm New England, I

1257
01:06:14,200 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 10: don't have a lot of choices. I've got this offensive

1258
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 10: line that's unsettled. Sometimes the best way to do it

1259
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 10: is guys fire off and hit somebody and let's see

1260
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Speaker 10: if we can possess the ball and get some third

1261
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Speaker 10: and shorts and keep keep possession and make sure Josh

1262
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Speaker 10: Allen doesn't have the ball in his hands.

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Speaker 1: And your experience and you know, you've been You've been

1264
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Speaker 1: around this game almost as long as me, right, I mean,

1265
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Speaker 1: what do you think is the cure for a team

1266
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Speaker 1: that has gotten off to a slow start offensively in games?

1267
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Speaker 1: Is there? And I know it's hard to generalize because

1268
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: every team's different, every game is different, every opponent's a

1269
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: little bit different. But the Bills still have a big

1270
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:55,439
Speaker 1: engine under the hood, but sometimes they have trouble getting

1271
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Speaker 1: it to turn over.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, Steve, You're right about that. Each game

1273
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Speaker 6: is different.

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Speaker 10: But you guys, remember Al maguire, the great basketball coaching broadcaster.

1275
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Speaker 10: I was a kid watching and you know, Al was

1276
01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 10: like must see appointment.

1277
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Speaker 6: TV because he had those great folksy you.

1278
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Speaker 10: Know, comments and different things that he had, and he

1279
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Speaker 10: had the New York cool that went with it, and

1280
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Speaker 10: you know, all those things. I remember watching him one

1281
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 10: time and he said, with certain teams, what you want

1282
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 10: to do right out of the gate is get touches.

1283
01:07:25,480 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 10: He used to call it, Hey, I gotta get touches

1284
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 10: for my guys. In other words, don't just shoot the

1285
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Speaker 10: first shot you have. And again he wasn't doing hoosiers,

1286
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,800
Speaker 10: pass it seven times before you shoot. What he was

1287
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 10: saying is make sure everyone touches it, get him into

1288
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 10: the flow of the game. I think for the Bills offensively,

1289
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Speaker 10: diversification and touches might be a pretty good idea for.

1290
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Speaker 6: Them right now.

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Speaker 10: Now why that hasn't happened, I can't begin to say.

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Speaker 10: But on Sunday night, sixteen targets for Stefan Diggs, the

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Speaker 10: next five guys c cumulative. I believe we're fourteen targets.

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01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 10: Can we get more diversification cans a few other guys

1295
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 10: touch it, make a few plays, take a little pressure

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01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 10: off of Digs, give Josh Allen a few outlets, and

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01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:15,439
Speaker 10: maybe they can start to zoom a little bit more,

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01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 10: because weeks two through four there's a whole lot of

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Speaker 10: zooming going on leading there.

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Speaker 6: I mean, points galore, yards galore.

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Speaker 10: The track meet with Miami started that way and by

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01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 10: the time it was over they couldn't see Buffalo up

1303
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:31,680
Speaker 10: because the defense took over and they went. But the

1304
01:08:31,800 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 10: last two weeks, as you've noted, been a little bit

1305
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 10: of a struggle out of the gate, and they don't

1306
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 10: want that. But I'd like to see them diversify a

1307
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 10: little bit more, if indeed they're able to do so.

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01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 2: Right and that's been you know, the headline grabber for

1309
01:08:45,439 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 2: fans and you know the media here in Western New York.

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01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, the slow starts by the offense. Meanwhile, the

1311
01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 2: defense is tied for the lead in sacks and von

1312
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 2: Miller isn't even one hundred percent ready to roll yet,

1313
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:59,320
Speaker 2: he don't even have his legs under him yet. So

1314
01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 2: you know, Leonard Floyd, Rousseau, Ajpanessa, even this young kid

1315
01:09:03,640 --> 01:09:07,759
Speaker 2: Kingsley Jonathan's done shown some promising signs as a reserve player.

1316
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:11,120
Speaker 2: And then Vaughn said this week he's starting to feel

1317
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 2: a little bendy again. I know they may not have

1318
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 2: a whole lot opportunity to rush the passer this week

1319
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 2: based on the game plan you're anticipating from New England offensively,

1320
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 2: but still in all I mean, this is a group

1321
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 2: that they look pretty intimidating and nobody seems to be

1322
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 2: talking about it much.

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Speaker 10: You're right about that, And because the offense dominates. We

1324
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 10: know that Josh Allen, heck, he's the cover guy for everything.

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01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 6: He's doing every ad under the.

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01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 10: Sun, and he's a phenomenal football player, so everything's going

1327
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 10: to lead with that.

1328
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, they may.

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01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 10: Very well still be able to get a few sacks

1330
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 10: in this game, even with the game plan I'm anticipating

1331
01:09:49,160 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 10: because if they dominate them in the line of scrimmage

1332
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:52,479
Speaker 10: and they have to throw the.

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Speaker 6: Football off, you go.

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Speaker 10: And I love that you brought up Kingsley Jonathan because

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01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,599
Speaker 10: I always feel like when I'm about to say his name,

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01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,360
Speaker 10: I should have a comma after Kingsley, you know, Kingsley

1337
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:08,120
Speaker 10: Jonathan because I feel like it's backwards, which we know

1338
01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 10: it's not, but he's got such a regal name, but

1339
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 10: he's playing, well, what do you have twenty six twenty

1340
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,639
Speaker 10: seven snaps in a game recently filling in when Shaq

1341
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 10: Lawson was out and Rousseau was out.

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Speaker 6: I think that was over in London.

1343
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 10: But all the guys what they're doing and the ability

1344
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 10: now with Rousseau back that in sub situations when you

1345
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 10: have third and long and he can go inside and

1346
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 10: rush over guards, people can't stop him that way. And

1347
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 10: as you said, if von Miller is starting to feel

1348
01:10:33,439 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 10: bendy and adds to the pass rush because Leonard Floyd's

1349
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 10: been a house of fire right out of the gate, lookout, folks.

1350
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 10: But it all comes back to me in this game,

1351
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 10: forcing New England to have to throw the football against

1352
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 10: their will, because I think Bill O'Brien's gonna want to

1353
01:10:49,560 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 10: take this thing and put it in dry dock man,

1354
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,120
Speaker 10: if at all possible, because every time you give it

1355
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:58,760
Speaker 10: to Buffalo, you're worried about what seventeen can do with it.

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01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,640
Speaker 1: Charles, always great talking to you. Good luck with the

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01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 1: game this weekend. Appreciate you, Thank you.

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01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 6: Look forward to seeing you guys. Take care of yourselves.

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01:11:07,360 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 2: All right. So that's Charles Davis. He'll be calling the

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01:11:09,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 2: game for the NFL on CBS with Iron Eagle and

1361
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 2: with sideline reporter Evan Washburn. Bill's Patriots kickoff obviously on

1362
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:21,719
Speaker 2: Sunday at one pm. We want to work in another

1363
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 2: question on the football relationship hotline. This one comes from Hanny,

1364
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,599
Speaker 2: who says, I have a daughter who is a senior

1365
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 2: at university in Saint Catherine's excuse me, Brock University. She's

1366
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 2: captain of the varsity soccer team and as a game

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 2: this Sunday at one pm. Uugh, this may be her

1368
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 2: last game as a varsity athlete. I don't miss her games,

1369
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,920
Speaker 2: and this will likely be emotional help. Yeah, that's a

1370
01:11:50,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 2: tough one. I would have football is a top priority,

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01:11:56,240 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: but families.

1372
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,960
Speaker 1: I would have a hard time putting that ahead of

1373
01:11:59,000 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: the Yeah game, yeah you yeah, catch up with the

1374
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:04,479
Speaker 1: game later.

1375
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got a DVR it. Otherwise, if you can multitask,

1376
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: you know, maybe just listen to the radio broadcast, put

1377
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,280
Speaker 2: the ear piece in your ear, listen to the game,

1378
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: you know, on your phone, but watch your daughter's game. Yeah,

1379
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 2: that's probably the best way to play that.

1380
01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 1: Yeah. To me, that would even doing what I do,

1381
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: the bills would take kind of a back seat to that.

1382
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I know I took a weekend off on

1383
01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,559
Speaker 1: my son's senior day when he was finishing up his

1384
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 1: college career. Two of my sons did that and I

1385
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 1: took a day. Yeah, now that was supposed to be

1386
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 1: working the game.

1387
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean if live coverage of the game,

1388
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:45,799
Speaker 2: if you want it, I think you just do audio

1389
01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 2: earpiece in your ear, through your phone, you know, put

1390
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 2: an AirPod in. But watch your daughter play because you

1391
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: never getting You're never getting that back, especially knowing it's

1392
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 2: your senior year. So that that's the way I would

1393
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 2: play that. So hopefully that's a good enough for you.

1394
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: Eight h threeh five point fifty one eight eight five

1395
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 2: fifty two five fifty is the number to get on

1396
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:11,680
Speaker 2: board if you've got a football viewing habit dilemma that

1397
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 2: you want to share with us. I'm surprised people haven't

1398
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: run into problems for next Thursday night, because sometimes the

1399
01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 2: week night streames are harder than the Sunday games. People

1400
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 2: come to expect, you know, the Sunday watching. You know,

1401
01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:29,840
Speaker 2: it's it's habit. When the game is not typically on

1402
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:32,720
Speaker 2: a Sunday, that's when people tend to run into more

1403
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 2: issues with family relatives, friends, job responsibilities.

1404
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: What have you.

1405
01:13:39,360 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 2: Surprised We haven't got more responses on that, but maybe

1406
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,880
Speaker 2: we'll get more next week on that when the game

1407
01:13:44,920 --> 01:13:49,400
Speaker 2: comes up. Everybody's thinking about Patriots right now. Practice is

1408
01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 2: just about wrapping up here for the Bills, which means

1409
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 2: we anticipate having won aj epinessa in studio here shortly

1410
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,400
Speaker 2: fresh off the practice field. So we'll take a break

1411
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:03,200
Speaker 2: here and hopefully have aj with us when we return here.

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Speaker 2: On One Bill's Live, presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

1413
01:14:06,160 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 2: Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

1414
01:14:24,360 --> 01:14:26,479
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you and joining us in

1415
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 2: studio fresh off the practice field. Guy hasn't even taken

1416
01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,880
Speaker 2: a shower yet, poor man. It's aj Epanessa tearing it

1417
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:35,640
Speaker 2: up here through the first six games. Everybody got a

1418
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:38,960
Speaker 2: nice dose of aj over there in London at the

1419
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: end of the first half. Took points off the board

1420
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,120
Speaker 2: for the Jags in a strong defensive effort. In week five,

1421
01:14:44,200 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 2: they doubled down. In Week six held the Giants without

1422
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:51,519
Speaker 2: a touchdown. I know Micah says it all the time.

1423
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:54,960
Speaker 2: You know, there could be given weeks where it's on

1424
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 2: the d to kind of pull the game out. You know,

1425
01:14:57,120 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 2: offense might be having a little bit of a sputtering

1426
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 2: start or whatever. You guys got to pull it out.

1427
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 2: There's other weeks where it flips the other way. I

1428
01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 2: think there have been enough of those instances though, that

1429
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,840
Speaker 2: when they do come up, you guys just say time

1430
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 2: to handle business.

1431
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1432
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:12,080
Speaker 11: I've been a huge believer, and you know, you don't

1433
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 11: ask who starts the fire, you just go and put

1434
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 11: it out. So whenever things are are maybe not going

1435
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,760
Speaker 11: our way and defense needs to step up, I'm confidence

1436
01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 11: in myself and then my teammates and everybody, the whole

1437
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 11: defense to just kind of stick stick their ground, stand

1438
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 11: the ground, and just make them play whenever we need it.

1439
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: Most most people who watch the team play, we kind

1440
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 1: of especially guys like Brownie, and we kind of tend

1441
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: to oversimplify things. And and one of the things that

1442
01:15:36,160 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 1: you know, people might think is that now that there's

1443
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:40,519
Speaker 1: a new guy calling defensive plays, that's made all the

1444
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: difference for you. But it's a really complicated equation getting

1445
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:46,519
Speaker 1: you know, because it's been a growth for you throughout

1446
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 1: your career. Now here you are, I mean, you're you're

1447
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,760
Speaker 1: having the season of a lifetime. And it's not just

1448
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:53,840
Speaker 1: about Sean McDermott calling plays right.

1449
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,800
Speaker 11: Right right, that's definitely a part of it, giving us

1450
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 11: calls to put us in positions to give us success,

1451
01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 11: but also just the accountability help that I hold myself

1452
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 11: to and the help for my teammates, you know, I

1453
01:16:06,479 --> 01:16:11,479
Speaker 11: mean it's cliche to say that, but it's the ultimate truth.

1454
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 1: You know.

1455
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 11: Without the other three technique to my side helping me,

1456
01:16:15,080 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 11: you know, that wouldn't influence one block the way that

1457
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:19,360
Speaker 11: it did to help me get back there to get

1458
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:22,679
Speaker 11: the sack. So it's truly a team sport. And without

1459
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 11: these guys around me, none of it would be possible.

1460
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 2: You think about the young players in this group on

1461
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:34,559
Speaker 2: the defensive front, and I think people were just idly

1462
01:16:34,680 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 2: waiting for whether it's your personal game, Ed's personal game,

1463
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,720
Speaker 2: Greg's personal game to hit like critical mass, for lack

1464
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 2: of a better term, where we see the plays that

1465
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 2: everybody knows you guys are capable of making not just

1466
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:56,840
Speaker 2: here or there, but week after week after week. And

1467
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 2: it feels like this year, all three of you are

1468
01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 2: are putting that week to week consistency out there in

1469
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:06,760
Speaker 2: a way that is more frequent than maybe we've ever

1470
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 2: seen it before. From each and every one of you.

1471
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:13,679
Speaker 2: What has clicked that has lent itself to that week

1472
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 2: to week consistency not just for you. Greg's doing it,

1473
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 2: Ed's doing it, and you guys are like the young core.

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01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,200
Speaker 11: I mean, I'm sure you've heard our our position group

1475
01:17:23,760 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 11: throughout the building just we're allowed group. We're a rowdy group,

1476
01:17:27,880 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 11: and I think a lot of that success goes to

1477
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 11: our our cohesion, our our unity as a group, and

1478
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 11: how close we are. I mean, I could go from

1479
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 11: the top of the list to the oldest guy from

1480
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:39,479
Speaker 11: Vaughn all the way to the youngest guy in Kingsley

1481
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 11: or Greg even because I think I think he's the youngest,

1482
01:17:41,400 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 11: but right, yeah, right, But from the oldest to the youngest,

1483
01:17:45,560 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 11: I mean, we all have the utmost respect for each other,

1484
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:50,840
Speaker 11: each other's game, and you know, we're a bunch of brothers.

1485
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,559
Speaker 11: You really see that dynamic back and forth with our group,

1486
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 11: and it's it's so fun to be around as well.

1487
01:17:57,160 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 1: Give us an idea too of if you can quanti

1488
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,479
Speaker 1: what maybe Vaughn will bring to the group after he

1489
01:18:03,479 --> 01:18:05,200
Speaker 1: gets back to one hundred percent. I know he took

1490
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:09,920
Speaker 1: quite a few snaps this last week. And how that

1491
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 1: in season, you know, you don't know who's gonna get hurt.

1492
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,639
Speaker 1: You know somebody probably will, you know, kind of miss

1493
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,719
Speaker 1: a game here at least you're there switch shifting around.

1494
01:18:17,720 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: How does that morph throughout the season? You keep that

1495
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,400
Speaker 1: cohesion going even when you don't know about the rotation

1496
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 1: that's coming.

1497
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 11: I mean that our cohesion goes from even from the

1498
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 11: starters to even our practice squad guys from like I said,

1499
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,280
Speaker 11: top to bottom, and I mean to shout out Cam

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Speaker 11: and Kingsley real quick. You see those guys working at

1501
01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 11: practice even though they're they're on the practice squad. Those

1502
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,160
Speaker 11: guys are working and they're working against our offensive ones.

1503
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 11: So all that hard work that they're putting in making

1504
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:47,439
Speaker 11: our offense better is getting them better as well. And

1505
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 11: I know that. I'm confident, my coaches are confident that

1506
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:52,160
Speaker 11: if they need if need be, they could come in

1507
01:18:52,160 --> 01:18:53,639
Speaker 11: and step in just as good as we could.

1508
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 2: I know Vaughn's been here a little over a year now.

1509
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if you've been out if you

1510
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 2: had been out to his past summit prior to him

1511
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 2: becoming a bill, I think you were going out there right, So,

1512
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 2: just in the time you've been out there, and not

1513
01:19:06,360 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 2: just the input you get from Vaughn, the value is

1514
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 2: you can pick a bunch of different guys, like you

1515
01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 2: can find a guy with a similar body type as

1516
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 2: you that's got eight years in the league and say, hey,

1517
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,640
Speaker 2: what works for you at this size and length, and

1518
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 2: then incorporate it into your game. In the years that

1519
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 2: you have gone out there, to what degree would you

1520
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 2: say your repertoire has increased. I don't need to know

1521
01:19:28,360 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: what you think your best move is now. I'm not

1522
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,240
Speaker 2: having even to give it away state secrets, but from

1523
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 2: what your repertoire was, your pass rush repertoire was coming

1524
01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 2: into the league to where it is now? Has it

1525
01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 2: increased twofold, fourfold, tenfold? Like where do you think it

1526
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:41,760
Speaker 2: is right now?

1527
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,920
Speaker 11: Yeah? I've been going to Vonn's summit since since high school.

1528
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,439
Speaker 11: Oh okay, yeah, he I mean it's been going on

1529
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 11: for about six years now or seven eight. It's going

1530
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 11: on for a while, and I think my senior year

1531
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 11: was the first year started and I was able to

1532
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 11: attend there, And I mean I've benefited from it every

1533
01:19:59,880 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 11: year year all the way from then to now, learning

1534
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 11: something steps hands. Like you said, asking anybody someone who's

1535
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,439
Speaker 11: a taller, skinnier guy with length, someone that's a little

1536
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 11: more like myself, just what do they use? Like you said,

1537
01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 11: like what do they use? What can I incorporate? And

1538
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:19,280
Speaker 11: we're obviously still not the same person, so I have

1539
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 11: to use what I do and kind of just maybe

1540
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 11: add a tidbit of what they got and just kind

1541
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,320
Speaker 11: of throw it in there, just to throw a mixup

1542
01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:25,599
Speaker 11: as well.

1543
01:20:25,640 --> 01:20:28,240
Speaker 2: So would you say, but the repertoire, how much bigger

1544
01:20:28,240 --> 01:20:30,080
Speaker 2: do you think it is now? Then maybe you're even

1545
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:30,960
Speaker 2: your rookie season.

1546
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 11: I mean, even if you look at my moves now,

1547
01:20:32,840 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 11: I use the same moves I used in college. My

1548
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 11: repertoire is about this. I'd say, maybe doubled. I'll go

1549
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 11: and double it and say and just move like.

1550
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 2: You feel comfortable with like I believe in this, and

1551
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 2: I believe I can win with this.

1552
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 6: Right.

1553
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 11: Yeah, But as a passworder, you only really need about

1554
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:51,519
Speaker 11: three four and I stick with those three four. And

1555
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 11: obviously there's been some things added, you know, some things

1556
01:20:53,920 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 11: that I throw out every once in a way exactly,

1557
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,080
Speaker 11: but at the very minimum, or at the very simplest form,

1558
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:02,160
Speaker 11: they're all relatively the same. It's just disguises.

1559
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: Give us a little insight into the conversations that are happening.

1560
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:09,360
Speaker 1: You guys are in the league lead in sacks. This

1561
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,920
Speaker 1: team hasn't done that for a while. Give us a

1562
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 1: how does the conversation go when you're watching the game

1563
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: film about when a guy like you the sack, strip,

1564
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:18,160
Speaker 1: fumble and all that. You know, a couple of plays

1565
01:21:18,160 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: you've made that have not only been big but timely.

1566
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:25,760
Speaker 1: How's that conversation go when you know Vaughn, who's you know,

1567
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,760
Speaker 1: you've been there since high school? How do those conversations

1568
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 1: go uh huh.

1569
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:32,720
Speaker 11: I think coach e our d line coach says it best.

1570
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 11: You know, he says, we're not surprised, but we're not satisfied.

1571
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:37,800
Speaker 11: You know, like these things don't surprise us. We've every

1572
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:39,559
Speaker 11: single one of us have been doing these in camp

1573
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 11: and practice every single day, learning from Vaughn's summit, and

1574
01:21:44,240 --> 01:21:46,639
Speaker 11: then just being able to come and operate in the games.

1575
01:21:46,680 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 11: You know, like he always says, we're not surprised, but

1576
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:51,200
Speaker 11: we're never satisfied. So we're going to keep pushing to

1577
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,880
Speaker 11: make that lead a little bit more.

1578
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: Not to again ask for a game plan here, but

1579
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,799
Speaker 2: when you face a human the size of Trent Brown,

1580
01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 2: who's six eight three seventy, the approach has to change

1581
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:05,880
Speaker 2: a little bit, right, right, I mean that's what you

1582
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:07,800
Speaker 2: got this weekend with him at left tackle, right.

1583
01:22:07,880 --> 01:22:10,519
Speaker 11: Yeah, No, NFL linemen are on a different level when

1584
01:22:10,560 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 11: it comes just to physicality, size, athleticism, So you have

1585
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 11: to get creative when it comes to moves, comes to

1586
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 11: things to beat him, and sometimes being creative is simplicity.

1587
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 11: Simplicity is sometimes the fastest and easiest way to make

1588
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:29,360
Speaker 11: something happen. So, yes, he's a big he's a big

1589
01:22:29,400 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 11: target or he's a big he's a big body. But

1590
01:22:32,160 --> 01:22:34,040
Speaker 11: we'll hopefully have a good plan for him this weekend.

1591
01:22:34,200 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 1: I know, you guys watch a ton of film, a

1592
01:22:36,120 --> 01:22:38,720
Speaker 1: particularly guy against individual film like what did this guy

1593
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,639
Speaker 1: do to the you know, the left tackle I'm facing?

1594
01:22:40,680 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 1: What did this guy use? How did he do? And

1595
01:22:42,720 --> 01:22:45,680
Speaker 1: there's and I do you ever get to the thing

1596
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:47,599
Speaker 1: where it's a little bit like the movie Princess Bride?

1597
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: Have ever seen where he goes? I know that, you

1598
01:22:49,280 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 1: know that, I know you're gonna do this.

1599
01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 11: When they're drinking the poison, right exactly?

1600
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,759
Speaker 1: I know that movie. For the first rep he started thinking, Okay,

1601
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 1: he thinks I'm thinking this, but I know he thinks that,

1602
01:22:59,120 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna you know what I mean, there's a

1603
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: ton of that going on. It's an unspoken conversation you

1604
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: have with yourself and he's having with himself about each other.

1605
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:08,160
Speaker 2: Right.

1606
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: It's the weirdest thing ever.

1607
01:23:09,560 --> 01:23:13,559
Speaker 11: We call that the game within the game. Vaughan's kind

1608
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:16,000
Speaker 11: of brought that idea over here, and I've always had

1609
01:23:16,040 --> 01:23:17,720
Speaker 11: that kind of the thought of how that goes, but

1610
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 11: he put a vocab word behind it. I guess the

1611
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 11: game behind the The game within the game is kind

1612
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 11: of the head game within the whole game of football.

1613
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,880
Speaker 11: So I know how this man has been beaten before

1614
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:30,719
Speaker 11: in front of me, and he knows how I've been beaten.

1615
01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 11: And now it's it's kind of that battle between each

1616
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,200
Speaker 11: move counter. He's counting what I'm doing. I'm counting what

1617
01:23:38,240 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 11: he's doing with the objective of getting to the ball

1618
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 11: and stuff like that, and him keeping me away. So

1619
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 11: it's that subtle chess match within the overall game that

1620
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 11: makes this game so unique as well.

1621
01:23:48,720 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 2: Well. Listen, thanks for spending some time with us. We

1622
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 2: appreciate it, and stay healthy the rest of the way

1623
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 2: and have fun storm in the castle this weekend in Foxborough.

1624
01:23:58,080 --> 01:24:00,840
Speaker 2: That's aj Epanessa joining us here on one Bill's Live.

1625
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:02,479
Speaker 2: We will take a break be back with some more

1626
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:05,040
Speaker 2: post practice sound as some of the players are addressing

1627
01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:07,040
Speaker 2: the media at the post practice podium. We'll have that

1628
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 2: for you in a second here on one Bill's Live.

1629
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:08,960
Speaker 4: Stay two.

1630
01:24:15,520 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to one Bill's Live. I want

1631
01:24:21,240 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: to get right out to the post practice podium where

1632
01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:25,960
Speaker 2: Gabe Davis is addressing the media.

1633
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 12: An offensive standpoint kind of I know the emphasis is

1634
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 12: finding the rhythm earlier in games and that sort of

1635
01:24:33,479 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 12: a thing. What's the process this week and how close

1636
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 12: do you feel you guys are to achieving that as

1637
01:24:38,760 --> 01:24:40,480
Speaker 12: you look toward this matchup with the Patris.

1638
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 13: For us, I would just say it's keeping it simple

1639
01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 13: more in the playbook, just us just doing what we

1640
01:24:51,240 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 13: do best and not trying to overcomplicate anything and just

1641
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,599
Speaker 13: going out there and playing ball. I mean, it's really

1642
01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 13: that simple of an answer, nothing really much to it,

1643
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:03,360
Speaker 13: but again and lighting the load in the in the

1644
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:06,519
Speaker 13: playbook and kind of just let guys play as fast

1645
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 13: as they can could.

1646
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 6: A straight line a game.

1647
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 13: Short, yeah, yeah, just overall, Yeah, just shorten everything a

1648
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 13: little bit and run what we know best and be

1649
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 13: able to go out there and fly around and it will

1650
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:24,679
Speaker 13: help everybody.

1651
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: I felt.

1652
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:28,120
Speaker 13: That's a great approach to anything when it comes to

1653
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 13: this is just the less you have to worry about,

1654
01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 13: the more free you can play, if that makes sense.

1655
01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,599
Speaker 13: And obviously that comes with preparation as well.

1656
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:39,400
Speaker 14: So early in your career, a lot of talent in

1657
01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,519
Speaker 14: the wide receiver room and you weren't, you know, as

1658
01:25:41,600 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 14: high up on that chart. What are the challenges of

1659
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:48,280
Speaker 14: finding a role in a very offensively a talented offensive

1660
01:25:48,320 --> 01:25:51,760
Speaker 14: group and then knowing and how important is it to

1661
01:25:51,840 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 14: know that role to achieve success as a whole.

1662
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 13: Yeah. I feel like when I was first here, my

1663
01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 13: role was get in where you fit in, and whenever

1664
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:04,920
Speaker 13: your number is called, just be prepared. So I was

1665
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:07,639
Speaker 13: able to, you know, my whole process coming in here

1666
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 13: was to be able to know each and every position

1667
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,719
Speaker 13: because you never know what happens in football. You can,

1668
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:14,800
Speaker 13: you know, be studying for one position, turns out this

1669
01:26:14,840 --> 01:26:16,439
Speaker 13: guy goes down and I gotta play this And that's

1670
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,519
Speaker 13: kind of how my process was was just being able

1671
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 13: to understand that. I got to know everything on the

1672
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 13: field to be ready, And I feel like that should

1673
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:27,240
Speaker 13: be everyone's process on especially when you coming to an offensive,

1674
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 13: a talented offense. Yeah, you may not be on the

1675
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:34,559
Speaker 13: field right now, but again, anything can happen and you

1676
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:36,599
Speaker 13: know your use will come when it comes.

1677
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 14: What challenging is it to make the most of the

1678
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 14: limited opportunities and understand and find your goal?

1679
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I feel like I guess it's tough sometimes. You know,

1680
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 13: for some guys, you know they can make a mistake

1681
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 13: and know that, why don't get the opportunity to make

1682
01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 13: it again because I know it's gonna come back to me.

1683
01:26:57,760 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 13: And you know, sometimes, uh for some for some guys,

1684
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 13: you can't think that way, you know, because you know

1685
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 13: you're gonna get little opportunity and you know you're not

1686
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 13: gonna get as much as the next guy. Uh So

1687
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 13: it could be mentally tough sometimes too. If you go

1688
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 13: out there and make a mistake, that could be your

1689
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 13: last time ever having the opportunity and that's the last

1690
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:22,760
Speaker 13: player everyone's gonna remember you by. So it definitely can

1691
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:25,639
Speaker 13: be a struggle at times when it comes to stuff

1692
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 13: like that. But just gotta find ways to not focus

1693
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,760
Speaker 13: on the negative and focus on, you know, the the

1694
01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:34,920
Speaker 13: positive that you do.

1695
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,040
Speaker 6: After that mistake, if that makes sense.

1696
01:27:39,080 --> 01:27:41,640
Speaker 3: What Big the Cat and Josh said of the preseason

1697
01:27:41,720 --> 01:27:43,519
Speaker 3: is they wanted to get you some shorter passes and

1698
01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,000
Speaker 3: get the ball in the defense. Is taking that away

1699
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:49,800
Speaker 3: or just have you guys haven't got.

1700
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:55,840
Speaker 13: I don't think defenses are taken away. I mean the

1701
01:27:55,880 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 13: passes that I caught, you know, last week were all

1702
01:27:58,680 --> 01:28:04,879
Speaker 13: probably under seven yards. I mean there were nothing too crazy,

1703
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:09,479
Speaker 13: But uh nah, I mean I don't think I've I

1704
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 13: don't think anybody has taken that option away from us.

1705
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,960
Speaker 12: Way, but just I'd follow up what you said off

1706
01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:20,240
Speaker 12: the top by playing free and screenwining the playbook. Whatever

1707
01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:25,080
Speaker 12: the does that speak to maybe the overall approach, the

1708
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:30,240
Speaker 12: mentality of focusing on you as an offense, yourselves and

1709
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 12: kind of executing as opposed to allowing a defense with

1710
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 12: whatever they're trying to do, to maybe dictate your.

1711
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 13: Approach, Yeah, I mean I feel like for for us, right,

1712
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 13: we we prepare for each and every game. We study

1713
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,720
Speaker 13: each team, you know, individually, but at the end of

1714
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:49,000
Speaker 13: the day, you know coverages and coverages same people that

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01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,479
Speaker 13: there's gonna be people in the spot. Obviously there's little

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Speaker 13: differences here and there, but there's a there's usually an

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Speaker 13: I like a basic way of how things are on right,

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Speaker 13: so you don't want to overcomplicate it when you're looking

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Speaker 13: at when you're looking at defenses in that way and

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Speaker 13: sometimes maybe for offense. Uh, And obviously it goes both ways,

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Speaker 13: right guys, At the end of the day, no matter

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Speaker 13: what's put in the playbook and what happens, like, guys

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Speaker 13: have to be prepared to run it and execute at

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Speaker 13: a high level. I don't care if there's five plays

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Speaker 13: or two hundred plays, right, But at the end of

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Speaker 13: the day, it also can do you good if you

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Speaker 13: kind of just shorten it just a little bit, giving

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Speaker 13: guys what they know to be able to go out

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Speaker 13: there and execute.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Gabe Davis addressing the media, and that's

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Speaker 2: just about all the time we have today, Steve and

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Speaker 2: I'll see tomorrow for a Friday edition with NFL Films,

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Speaker 2: Greg Cosell and the obl Friday Fan mail Bag. We'll

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Speaker 2: see it one