1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four is going to be a monster year 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: in politics. We want to keep you up to date 3 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 1: on all things election, but you've got live family jobs, 4 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: and he can't always listen every day to the show. 5 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 2: That's why we've created a podcast called twenty four that 6 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: gives a recap of our election coverage from the week. 7 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,320 Speaker 1: Think of it like a highlight reel, a breakdown of 8 00:00:18,360 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: all the plays, analysis and team interviews. 9 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: Twenty four will drop at noon Eastern on Sundays in 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,840 Speaker 2: our podcast feed. You can find it on the free 11 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 2: iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 12 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 13 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition Clay Travis Buck 14 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,479 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I hope you don't have an electric vehicle 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 1: that you're trying to charge while you are listening to us. 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: In much of the country because it is cold and 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: it ain't easy to do. We're going to talk some 18 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: about that. My kids have been out all week from school. 19 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: We got more ice. You know, this is the truth. 20 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't remember the last time it's happened, Buck. I 21 00:00:56,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 1: have not left my house on Sunday. Legitimately, have not 22 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: left my house. Now, I got all the studios I 23 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: can work. It hasn't really changed my ability to do everything. 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 1: But my kids haven't had to go to school. We 25 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: got everything in the neighborhood, have not left. I don't 26 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 1: remember the last time that's happened. I'm not sure that 27 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: that has ever happened. But that's what happens when the 28 00:01:19,760 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: South gets hit with snow and ice and everything else, 29 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: and it's still here because it's stayed cold, and I'm 30 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: over the cold. But we'll talk some about the electric 31 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 1: vehicles because I've been a lot of you who may 32 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 1: have bought electric vehicles or have friends and family who 33 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: have bought electric vehicles. This cold is making those things 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: massive issues. We'll talk about it. Axios has already moved 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: on from Trump is going to be the nominee. They 36 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: put out a list three vice presidential candidates that they 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: believe are at the top of Donald Trump's list, Nicky Haley, 38 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: Elis Stephonic and Ohio Senator jd Vance. We will talk 39 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: about that some because it's got everybody all riled up. 40 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 2: You remember I mentioned that someone said jd Vance last 41 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: summer I heard in a meeting at Marralago. So this 42 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 2: has been that has been in the ether for a while. 43 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like JD. 44 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: We've had him on the show a bunch, smart guy young. 45 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: We'll talk about all three of those contenders and others, 46 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: I would imagine during the course of the show. But 47 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: just so all of you know, we are what four 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: days from the New Hampshire primary, and the polling continues 49 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: to look really, really good for Donald Trump. The most 50 00:02:32,960 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: recent poll that I saw Buck and then I want 51 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: to play an audio which will kind of give you 52 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: a sense of how well the poll is looking for 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. This came out from Suffolk University and USA 54 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: Today earlier today, and it has Donald Trump at fifty two, 55 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: Nicky Haley at thirty five, Ron DeSantis at six. Those 56 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 1: are the only three remaining candidates. That is a huge 57 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: lead for Donald Trump. If you look at the gambling markets, 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: Trump has moved into almost impregnable position in terms of 59 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: he's going to win the New Hampshire primary as well 60 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: if that ends up being the case, and certainly we're 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna talk about it a lot next week. No Republican 62 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: presidential candidate has ever won Iowa and New Hampshire in 63 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: a contested primary since Gerald Ford in nineteen seventy six. 64 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 1: So Trump would have done something effectively that has not 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: been done in fifty years nearly if he goes on 66 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: and wins New Hampshire on Tuesday. And initially you had 67 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a lot of optimism from Nicky Haley. Oh, we're gonna 68 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: be able to win New Hampshire and then we're gonna 69 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: go down and we're gonna win South Carolina and we're 70 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: gonna turn its race on its head. And that's the 71 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: theory for how we're gonna end up winning this nomination. Well, now, 72 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: John's sorry, Christinho new I think is that I always 73 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: get the new News mixed up. But the current governor 74 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire, who is Chris Sanunu, I believe part 75 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: of the sow New family. 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 3: Uh. He now is. 77 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: Saying, oh no, no, we were never planning on actually 78 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: winning New Hampshire. The goal was just to come in 79 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,480 Speaker 1: second and we're in good shape there. Listen to this 80 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: audio from yesterday. 81 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 3: We always wanted to have a strong second. It's the 82 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 3: only expectation we ever laid up. And you can be 83 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: more directed by new Hope. It's an absolute win. 84 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:27,160 Speaker 1: No, it's a win and a reset fund if everyone 85 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: that could vote in the primary comes out and votes. 86 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 3: Not only she's gonna win a landslide. 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 4: And that's not an exaggeration. 88 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: So we're gonna see a bar for you here. 89 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: It's not an expects state better than an ex it's 90 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: people getting excited. 91 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 4: It's exciting. We can feel it on the ground. 92 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. 93 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: Nikki Haley can give Trump that defeat that no one 94 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:47,480 Speaker 1: thought was possible in the next few weeks, and. 95 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: I think that's very likely to happen. I think she 96 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 3: can win. 97 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: She's we've already exceeded expectations in terms of a one 98 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: on one race. 99 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: All right, Yeah, it's. 100 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:56,920 Speaker 1: Never good when you say we're gonna win it's gonna 101 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: be a landslide. Oh no, And then you flip back 102 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks later you're like, we never said that. 103 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: We always said we'd be really happy with second. She's 104 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: gonna come in second. It's not gonna be particularly close. 105 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: And I think that ends it. But Buck, this is 106 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: not a good sign for Nicky Haley. When the governor 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: of New Hampshire has gone from oh, she's gonna win 108 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: New Hampshire too. We never even said that we literally 109 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: just played you the receipts he did. 110 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 2: I think this whole thing may officially be over before 111 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 2: South Carolina at this point. I think you may have 112 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,159 Speaker 2: both of them drop before then, which I wouldn't have 113 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 2: thought even in the immediate aftermath of Iowa necessarily, but 114 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 2: based on what the numbers are looking like, because what's 115 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 2: really what's really the point, you know, staying in to 116 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 2: see if you could get a big if you could 117 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 2: make it close, even if you were let's say you're 118 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: Nicky Haley, you're the last last woman standing, last woman 119 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,359 Speaker 2: or man standing against Trump, and you were going to 120 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 2: break that lead down substantially so that maybe Trump set 121 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: you know, Trump set fifty five. You're at forty five, 122 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 2: still still a substantial margin in the in the key states. 123 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,599 Speaker 2: But that's not what's going to happen, as we're seeing 124 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 2: here the moment. If Ron were to drop out in 125 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 2: advance of South Carolina, as we've discussed, most of his 126 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: supporters go to Trump. If most of his supporters go 127 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: to Trump, now he's out ahead of Nicky Haley by 128 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: sixty points. I mean some some huge seventy points, some huge, 129 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: huge number, and I don't think that that's brand enhancing, 130 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 2: which is really what now the second and third place 131 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 2: finishers behind Trump, I think have to have as their 132 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,160 Speaker 2: top consideration. So that's yeah, of course they're doing a 133 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: what is it they're managing expectations now about New Hampshire 134 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: in classic pr fashion? Oh yeah, a second place showing 135 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: if Nikki Haley can't win a New Hampshire, you can't 136 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: win anywhere against Trump. And that's just the way that 137 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: it is. So we'll see how long they decide they 138 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: want to draw this out. I you know, the Axios reporting, 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: it's funny to be clay because you think about who 140 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 2: could they have spoken to that would really have an 141 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,920 Speaker 2: inside track on Trump VP picks. Who would that even 142 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: be At this point, I'm not sure that if you're 143 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 2: Axios and you speak to Trump himself you can consider 144 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: that to be the inside track, because a week later 145 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: he might just or a day later he might just 146 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 2: totally change his mind. 147 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 3: At least Stephonic. 148 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: I understand she's having a moment right now because of 149 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: the testimony of the university presidents, but at least Defhonic 150 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 2: listen to her on climate change. I mean, there are 151 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: a few things where she's a liberal Republican. So the 152 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 2: people that are upset about Nikki Haley because she's an 153 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 2: establishment interventionist Republican. Stephanic very loyal to Trump, as we 154 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: know that's very important. But on policy she's kinda in that. 155 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not gonna say she's like a Tom 156 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,480 Speaker 2: Tillis or. 157 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: Something, but she's in that direction. 158 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this, because this is where I am. 159 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 1: If Trump is going to be the nominee, you and 160 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: I are going to charge and be as aggressive as 161 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: we can to try to beat Joe Biden. And it's 162 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: gonna be a wild twenty twenty four ride, and we 163 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: hope all of you listening will buckle up and come 164 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: along for the ride. But here's where I am on 165 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: the VP. I don't think it matters that much in 166 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: a negative way. That is, I don't and some people 167 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: are gonna, oh, no, no, no, you know, the usual clattering 168 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: chat classes out there. I look at it and say, 169 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: I just want Trump to pick someone that makes it 170 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: somewhat more likely that he could be elected president. 171 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: But that's all I care about. Can we add something 172 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: in that? 173 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 5: Though? 174 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 2: I really do think Clay that there's a different consideration. 175 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 3: Now that that's. 176 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 2: Piece one, but I think we have to think of 177 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 2: this as two pieces because whoever's his VP is pretty 178 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 2: much on the launchpad to run again in two years, right, 179 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: So it's a more substantial pick than it's just you know, 180 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: like Sarah Palin with John mcay, no one even thought 181 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 2: really about like oh an eight year. It was just like, 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: can she help him win this election and we'll figure 183 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 2: the rest out later, you. 184 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 185 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: That's kind of where I am though, because if Trump 186 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: were to win, there are gonna be like, there'll be 187 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: no you know, we know Biden's not running again, like 188 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Trump's not running again. 189 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 3: It basically sweeps the deck. 190 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: I don't know that the VP for Trump is going 191 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: to have that much of a leg up because I 192 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: think there's gonna be twenty or twenty five guys in 193 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 1: gals who all jump in, and I think they're all 194 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: gonna have decent name recognition. Now, if the VP does 195 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: an amazing job, then yes, you would potentially have a 196 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 1: leg up. But the VP could also end up like 197 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: Mike Pence and have basically no political career anymore, or 198 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: like Kamala Harris, where you're in a position. Trump's gonna 199 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 1: be Trump if you don't necessarily excel in that role. 200 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Mike Pence, I think, and I understand there 201 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,319 Speaker 1: are some people out there with big Mike Pence fans. 202 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: I think my penns his political career is over. I 203 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: don't think that he is ever going to be able 204 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: to ascend to any kind of national role. Now, maybe 205 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: he could run for something in Indiana again. And I'm 206 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: not trying to take a shot at him. I'm just 207 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: saying the Trump VP pick comes with a high degree 208 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: of potential outcome. So I'm not sure that that means 209 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: that you're going to be the front runner for eight 210 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: twenty eight. 211 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 3: But who he's picking now? First of all, I don't 212 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 3: think there's anyone that he could choose. 213 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: I believe that generally vice presidents, I mean, look at 214 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: the look at the whole Sarah Palin situation, like oh, 215 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:37,559 Speaker 2: the Game Change movie and all this stuff. Vice presidents 216 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: don't win you the election, and I'm not even sure 217 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 2: they I'm not even sure they matter very much at 218 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: all in terms of the way electoral politics actually plays out. 219 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: That all said, uh, this pick is for a Trump. Look, 220 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 2: I think I said it on the air heard from 221 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: people who heard Trump atmar A Lago talking about this, 222 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 2: and he said he wants someone that he likes. 223 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: To hang out with as VP. 224 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: Yeah that was that was this story, I mean, or 225 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,240 Speaker 2: that that was what was circulating in political circles. This 226 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 2: is maybe last July, I want to say, and that's 227 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: when the JD. Van's name came up for the first 228 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 2: time as a VP pick, because people are like, wait 229 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: a second, what it's like, Yeah, Trump likes him, he's smart, 230 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 2: he's young. 231 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 3: Guys. By the way, this is also a good JD. 232 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:22,760 Speaker 1: Vance said awful nasty things about Trump in like twenty sixteen, 233 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: And when are you. 234 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 2: Telling me that people are welcome back on the Trump train, 235 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 2: even if at one point they weren't on the Trump 236 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 2: This is one thing that I will say is very 237 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 2: positive about Trump. He is not some some politicians. You 238 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 2: know this buck some people in general, but we're talking 239 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: about politicians. If you ever say a negative word about them, 240 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 2: they never forget it for the rest of their life, 241 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 2: and they have massive grudges and they will try to 242 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 2: end you eight years later because you said something they 243 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:50,840 Speaker 2: didn't like. You know that that that barely got any 244 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 2: attention eight years ago. There are a lot of politicians 245 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 2: like that, score settlers, so to speak. 246 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: I don't think Trump is not like that. Trump will 247 00:11:57,800 --> 00:11:59,959 Speaker 1: not hold a grudge beyond look at what happened to 248 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: he takes shots at Viveik. Twenty four hours later, Viveke's 249 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: up on stage and Trump is saying and people will 250 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: now want him to be VP. Right, Like, whatever Trump says, 251 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 1: his base will follow. But also jd Vance said a 252 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: lot of negative things about Trump, and sixteen he said, 253 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: to jd Vance's credit, hey, I was wrong. Trump was 254 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: a better president than I anticipated. And so he then 255 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: got Trump's endorsement. In twenty twenty two, he's now a senator. 256 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: He's done well. But my point on this is six 257 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: years ago jd Vance was not a Trump guy, and 258 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 1: so this idea that Trump isn't able to just go 259 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: out and find somebody, dude. This is why I don't 260 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 1: think Nicky Haley's off the table. And some of you 261 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 1: out there are fired up. I was tweeting about this 262 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: last night. If Trump picks Nicki Haley, within twenty four hours, 263 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: all the people saying Nicky Haley is an awful human 264 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: being and there's no way she should ever be representing 265 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: the Republican Party will be praising Trump for playing four 266 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 1: D chess and making such an astute VP pick. 267 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: So I agree with you on this, yes, and so 268 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: I think we should and I know a lot of 269 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: the folks listening do not. So let's let's have a 270 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 2: let's have a fight on this one. Call us, let 271 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: us know why we are wrong that if Trump were 272 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 2: to pick nikkiy Haley. Our contention, we both we both 273 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 2: see it this way, and that doesn't mean that we're right. 274 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 2: Sometimes we've both been wrong on things before. Our contention 275 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: is everybody who would vote for Trump would still vote 276 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: for Trump, even if you could hav There would be 277 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: a zero noticeable change. I mean, don't tell me you've 278 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: got like one neighbor that you're sure. I mean, in 279 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: the polls, in the numbers, nothing changes. 280 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: People like to get fired up and claim that something's 281 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: going to be transformational. If you won't vote for a 282 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: president because of a vice presidential pick, my contention is 283 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 1: you were never voting for the president in the first place. Now, 284 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: I do think you can make a vice presidential pick 285 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: that could make someone who wouldn't otherwise be voting for 286 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: you be like, Okay, maybe he's not so bad. I 287 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: would consider it somewhat. I don't think that your pick 288 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: in somebody voting for you. So that is my thesis, 289 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,599 Speaker 1: and I'm very sound on it. I don't think the 290 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: numbers would change at all in a negative way for Trump. 291 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: Who wants to fight? 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Speaking Truth and having Fun. 324 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Second Hour. 325 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 3: Clay and Buck kicks off right now. 326 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 2: We're talking a lot about New Hampshire because we're just 327 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,560 Speaker 2: days away from the first of the nation primary, and 328 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: it's looking like it's going to be a two person 329 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: race right now, really between Nicki Haley and Donald Trump. 330 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: So what's going to happen here in the final stages? 331 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 2: What are some of the closing arguments going to be 332 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 2: from both camps? Nikki Haley upset here and even naming 333 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 2: Fox in the process because she claims that the assertion 334 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: that she is not a conservative is false, is unfair. 335 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: Let's talk about it, play one. 336 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: I think it's irresponsible for the press to say this 337 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 4: because Democrats can't vote in this primary. They haven't been 338 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 4: able to change their registration for months. He's going out 339 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 4: saying I want to cut social security. I've never once 340 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,760 Speaker 4: said I want to cut social security, And everybody's talking 341 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 4: about the fact is she a conservative? I want you, Ainthley, 342 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 4: You've known me a long time. How am I not conservative? 343 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 4: I was a Tea Party governor. I passed voter ID, 344 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,719 Speaker 4: I passed the toughest illegal immigration law in the country. 345 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,200 Speaker 4: I cut taxes, I passed tort reform. We paid down 346 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 4: our debt. I went to the UN we cut a 347 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 4: billion dollars. Just because the media says it because Donald 348 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 4: Trump says it, it's wrong. I've been a conservative all 349 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,200 Speaker 4: my life. No one can mention one thing that says 350 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 4: I'm not a conservative. 351 00:17:25,560 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 2: A few things here, Clay, Let's try to analyze this 352 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 2: as honestly and dispassionately as we can. She when she 353 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: was a governor in South Carolina, governor of a very 354 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: red state, and so yes, she governed as a conservative. 355 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 2: But then again, I don't think you have much choice 356 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 2: in South Carolina. You know, it's I think it's also 357 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: true for example of South Dakota. If you're going to 358 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: govern there, it's very red, so you're probably going to 359 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: push Republican policies. The hits on Nikki Haley, for example, 360 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 2: to me seems to be the place is where, you know, 361 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: because people are upset. We've seen this online. They're upset 362 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 2: at the notion of a Nicki Haley VP. So I 363 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: want to dive into a little bit of forget about 364 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: whether Trump will or won't. Why does that bother people 365 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 2: in the Republican Party, in the base, people who are 366 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 2: going out to vote. I think it's primarily a couple things. 367 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: Let me know if I'm missing anything, or if you 368 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 2: think there's something else to throw in here. I think 369 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 2: Nikki Haley is very much an establishment Republican on foreign 370 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:34,919 Speaker 2: policy and the usage of US military force abroad. I 371 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 2: think she's considered establishment insofar as the donor class tends 372 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 2: to really like her. 373 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 3: What is it that she has done? 374 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: She served under the Trump administration, As I've said, US 375 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 2: Ambassador to Medinations is almost. 376 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 3: A ceremonial post. It's just the truth. 377 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 2: But anyway, what has she done in office that is 378 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: not conservative? I mean, she said she was bad I 379 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: think on an answer about transgender things that she gave recently, 380 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 2: but she really just evaded. She didn't give an incorrect answer, right, 381 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: Like what people the notion that she's not like, let's 382 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 2: take this at face value, that she's not a conservative, 383 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 2: Where does that really come from? 384 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 3: Is it fair? 385 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 1: So? I think Nikki Haley has not been very good 386 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 1: at answering questions. She didn't handle a question on the 387 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 1: Civil War very well. She didn't handle the question on 388 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: transgender issues very well. And those have bubbled up and 389 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: become stories right because she hasn't handled them as well, 390 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 1: and now they don't do very many public forum questions 391 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: as a result. 392 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 3: I think is one of the outcomes of that. 393 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 1: I think if you ask people, a lot of it 394 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: would come after she left the UN with the way 395 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 1: that she immediately kind of jumped right into bed with 396 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: what global business interest, that would be the attack. 397 00:19:57,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 3: I think that. 398 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: The reality is that is a line of attack that 399 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has been able to take advantage of because 400 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: she has been supported by people who are otherwise Democrats. 401 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,000 Speaker 1: I think that's really where it comes from more than 402 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: anything else. I think it's also the idea in many 403 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: of the debates she has been more prone to advocate 404 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: using American military than the less activist base of the 405 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: Republican Party would be right. She's more aggressive on Ukraine, 406 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: She's more aggressive on how to use military force, which 407 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: would have actually been sort of the Bush Cheney style 408 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party. She would have been probably an 409 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: interventionist on Iraq. And then the other thing I would 410 00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: say is I think a lot of people feel like 411 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: she goes whatever way the wind blows. And her response 412 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: in South Carolina when they had the shooting at the 413 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,440 Speaker 1: Ebenezer Baptist Church and she's suddenly says, oh, we've got 414 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: to take down the Confederate flag immediately, I actually think 415 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: that's why she didn't handle the slavery question very well, 416 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: because she is particularly apprehensive about how to handle issues 417 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: such as those, and that kind of put up her 418 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: guard antenna. When she got that question about the Civil 419 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: War at all. She just doesn't want to really kind 420 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: of dive into it. That's not a difficult question to answer, 421 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,239 Speaker 1: but she was more particularly sensitive to it maybe than 422 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: most would be. 423 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 2: So she It's interesting because most of your most of 424 00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 2: the things you point out, and I agree that she 425 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: has handled some questions badly. It feels like that's more 426 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: a function of her inauthenticity as a candidate and what 427 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 2: she's expressing than it is a lack of conservatism, do 428 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like it's she's messing up, 429 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: But she's messing up not because she's actually a lib 430 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: or she's you know, she's a centrist or whatever. It's 431 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: because she doesn't want to tell people what she really thinks. 432 00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: She wants to tell them whatever is going to help 433 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: the most in that moment. I did think this was 434 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 2: interesting as well. She says that while Trump's cases should 435 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 2: play out, she did pledge to fully pardon him, and 436 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: we haven't talked about the Fani willis the latest there, 437 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 2: which I think this ties into this. But let's play 438 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 2: this is cut two promising to pardon Trump. 439 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 3: Play it. 440 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,160 Speaker 4: You know, you only want to talk about a pardon 441 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,399 Speaker 4: after someone has been convicted, So I would assume that 442 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 4: we'd let that play out, and I would think he 443 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 4: would want that to play out. 444 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 3: If you were convicted, Would you then pardon him? 445 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: I said, I would pardon him with this simple reason 446 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 4: of you know, when you talk about a pardon, someone's 447 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 4: already been found guilty. But for me, the last thing 448 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: we need is an eighty year old president sitting in jail, 449 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 4: because that's just going to further divide our country. This 450 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 4: is no longer about whether he's innocent or guilty. This 451 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 4: is about the fact, how do we bring the country 452 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 4: back together? And I am determined to make sure all 453 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: of this division, all of this chaos, goes away. And 454 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 4: I think a pardon for him would make all of 455 00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 4: that go away. And I think, can I just. 456 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 2: Say the country what she just said there, I went 457 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 2: to I thought about this right away is what Mike 458 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 2: Pence should have said on this show when you kept 459 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 2: asking him about a pardon. It's not even about notice 460 00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 2: she didn't go to I mean, if you or I rass, 461 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: I'd be like, these charges are preposterous, This is all 462 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 2: at political hit job. She didn't even go there, but 463 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: I think it's sufficient for her to say that in 464 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: this context. Yes, of course I would pardon Trump. He's 465 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: still one of our former presidents. May still be a 466 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: future president, but one of our former presidents sitting in prison. 467 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: Antley would have been able to continue. He wouldn't have 468 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: won or anything, but I think you would have been 469 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: able to continue his campaign a little longer. The lack 470 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 2: of that vision, for me, blew away all this. Oh 471 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 2: I'm the guy standing on principal thing. What about the 472 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: principle of you're trying to not rip the country apart? 473 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I mean this is what I would 474 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: have said if I was Rn DeSantis from the start. 475 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: I think Vivek was the only person who said it ever, 476 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: at like just right out of the gate. 477 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 3: And I give credit to the did He did say it, 478 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 3: but he didn't say it right away. He coote up 479 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 3: to it. 480 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: He didn't really We asked him when he right after 481 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: he launched he came on the show. 482 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 3: To me, that's an easy question. It would have put 483 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: it behind. 484 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: And Nicky Haley's gotten finally to the right place at 485 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:21,120 Speaker 1: a minimum on that answer. But my concern is when 486 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: it takes you a long time to get to the 487 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: right answer, you're ultimately being hired for your judgment. And 488 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: this was an easy call for me. And and by 489 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 1: the way, I would say that some people are gonna 490 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: be upset about this. I would say the same thing 491 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: if it were a Democrat. I don't think you benefit 492 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: unless it's like you are committing a murder, right like 493 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: something that is a direct violent act that you undertook. 494 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 2: I would not want Joe Biden sent to prison for 495 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,199 Speaker 2: process crimes. And that is what they are trying to 496 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: do to Donald Trump for documents or for yeah, for 497 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 2: this classified thing that he's being investigated for. Right Like, 498 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,160 Speaker 2: let's pretend that Trump comes into office beats Biden. 499 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: I don't don't think that whoever the new Attorney general 500 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: is of the United States should try to put Joe 501 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: Biden point out for the rest of his life. 502 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 2: Donald Trump feels this way too about or felt this 503 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: way about Hillary Clinton, correct, who. 504 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 3: Clearly broke the law. It was as obvious as can be. 505 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 2: But I think Trump recognized in you in a moment 506 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: that is you'd have to describe as magnanimous Trump. Better 507 00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 2: for the country, not to lock up my previous political 508 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: competitor and obviously one of the most famous people in 509 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 2: American politics, and Clinton's the last name. 510 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: The whole thing. Better for the country. 511 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,119 Speaker 2: Not to your point, if if you should go away 512 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,679 Speaker 2: on state charges for a long time because of violent 513 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 2: crime or something I do. And this goes to the 514 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: argument that has been talked about a little bit with Trump, 515 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 2: and you know that can't actually be true because if 516 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: that is, you know, the notion that you can't go 517 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 2: to prison for anything or you can do anything as 518 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 2: the president, and it's okay because then anybody who becomes 519 00:25:56,359 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 2: president could eliminate all their rivals and it would be 520 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 2: something that we would have. 521 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, just ye take it outside of like 522 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 1: an actual attack on your political rivals, which right, I mean, 523 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 1: but I'm talking about something not even that you order. 524 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,920 Speaker 1: To me, the easiest call is something that you directly do, right, 525 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 1: Like let's say that the President of the United States 526 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 1: got into an argument with his son and picked up 527 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: a you know, I don't know, like candlestick in the 528 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: solarium and yes, and hit his son in the head 529 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 1: and killed him. Like the president should be prosecuted for 530 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 1: that direct physical violent act. 531 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: You aren't above that. Right now. 532 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: You could say, oh, you're driving a car and then 533 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,359 Speaker 1: you're drunk, but the president never drives a car. 534 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: Right. 535 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: The number of things that a president could do that 536 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 1: are physically violent is relatively limited because they're constantly surrounded 537 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: by Secret Service protection, right, drive cars like all those and. 538 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 2: You know, a presidential immunity, I mean this has been 539 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,440 Speaker 2: talked about a little bit recently. You can't order drone 540 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 2: strikes on your political opposition in this country, right, that 541 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,159 Speaker 2: would be first of all, people don't even talk about this. 542 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 2: You know, there is whether it's military chain of command 543 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 2: or you know, intelligence, you're not allowed to There are 544 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 2: unlawful orders. Yeah, just because someone can give an order 545 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: does not make the order lawful, and not all presidential 546 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 2: orders would inherently be lawful either, So, I mean, you know, 547 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 2: it's been more of an intellectual debate than I think 548 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: a real debate recently, although it has come up in 549 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: court and some of the Trump lawyers were raising this 550 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 2: to see the extent of presidential immunity and to test 551 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: this out because we've never been here before. 552 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 3: But I think it's interesting as well. Clay. 553 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: The reason we have to have this, or that we're 554 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,000 Speaker 2: even talking about testing the length of presidential immunity or 555 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: the extent of presidential immunity, is because Democrats are trying 556 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 2: to throw a presidential candidate into prison. That's why we're 557 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,880 Speaker 2: having the conversation totally. And I'll give you an example 558 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,640 Speaker 2: from recent history. Right, they didn't find weapons of mass 559 00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: destruction in Iraq? Should George W. 560 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: Bush be prosecuted because he relied on his intelligence agencies 561 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,120 Speaker 1: and they ended up being inaccurate for purposes of why 562 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,000 Speaker 1: he decided to invade Iraq? 563 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:09,239 Speaker 3: Right? 564 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: Like that to me is an easy example of him 565 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 1: acting within his presidential authority and the result ending up 566 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: being something that wasn't what he sold to the American public. 567 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,959 Speaker 3: That shouldn't be prosecutable. Right. 568 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: There are people out there who say, oh, George W. 569 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: Bush should have been charged with war crimes over that. 570 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: That's clearly to me, within the scope of making decisions 571 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,720 Speaker 1: I was going to That's the critical The critical thing, though, 572 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 1: is within the scope of your employment. Right, So you know, 573 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: when I was in the CIA. They always made that 574 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: very clear to us. You know, where where are you 575 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: you know where would you have some protection and some 576 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: qualified immunity or you know, same thing at the NYPD. 577 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: You know, if you're a cop and you're on the 578 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: job and you do something and it's within the scope 579 00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: of your employment that goes under a different set of rules. 580 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: Then you're off duty, you're at home. 581 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 2: You know, you get into an argument the delivery driver, 582 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 2: you punch him in the face and say, hey, I'm 583 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 2: a law enforcement officer. 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It 620 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: will continue to take your calls on this as we 621 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,720 Speaker 1: sit here four days from the New Hampshire primary. News 622 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,239 Speaker 1: that is out there. Tim Scott, according to the New 623 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 1: York Times, senator from South Carolina, set to endorse Donald 624 00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: Trump for president tonight at a rally in New Hampshire. 625 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: That is the report from the New York Times. Now 626 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: that is somewhat significant in that Tim Scott had not 627 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: endorsed anyone since he dropped out of the presidential race 628 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: before any votes were actually cast. But if you're looking 629 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: ahead to South Carolina and stepping beyond where we are 630 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: right now, this would mean that Trump has been endorsed 631 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: in South Carolina by the governor Henry McMaster, by Lindsey Graham, 632 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: of course, and now by Tim Scott. In the event 633 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: that Nikki Haley is going to take the fight to 634 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: Donald Trump in South Carolina, all three of the statewide 635 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: elected officials in that state have now lined up behind 636 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. 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Nicky 649 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 1: Haley won that battle, and now it feels like Tim 650 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: Scott maybe paying her back by deciding to endorse Donald Trump. 651 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, it's also the smart play at this point, well, right, correct, 652 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 2: And nobody's going to say it himself. 653 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but there's you know, there's no. 654 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 2: One who's going to be surprised at all at endorsement 655 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 2: for Trump at this point, for from from anybody, I 656 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 2: would say, and you know, we're gonna have to. We 657 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 2: got producer Ali thinks Tim Scott's going to be Trump's VP, 658 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 2: so we we we're gonna have to start keeping track 659 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 2: of all of these projections on this. 660 00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,360 Speaker 3: It's just it's it is interesting. 661 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: It's almost more interesting to think about the possibilities than 662 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: I think it actually matters who ends up being the VP. 663 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 2: In some ways, at least in terms of the election. 664 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,479 Speaker 2: It's a bigger thing to see down the line how 665 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 2: it's all going to go. 666 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: Producer Ali really likes Tim Scott as the potential VP choice. 667 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: She wants to make them be on it, right, Did 668 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: you say that already? 669 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 3: I just I think so. 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Appreciate all 703 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:05,759 Speaker 1: of you hanging. 704 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 3: Out with us. 705 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: Final hour of the week, fourteen hours up, fourteen hours down. 706 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 3: This will be the last hour and we go up 707 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 3: to New Hampshire. 708 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,640 Speaker 1: A lot of different stories that we've been tracking so far, 709 00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: but we want to join our friend Caroline Levitt, who 710 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 1: is a New Hampshire height We have learned that that 711 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 1: is how you define someone from New Hampshire over the 712 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 1: course of this show, after much error in ways, I 713 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: think probably would be fair to say, Caroline, how is 714 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: the weather in New Hampshire? We know it was brutal 715 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: in Iowa? And what do you expect turn out to 716 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 1: look like on Tuesday? And for people out there who've 717 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,440 Speaker 1: never been through the primary season, you grew up here, 718 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: what is it like when it comes to the New 719 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: Hampshire primary for residents of New Hampshire. 720 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, the weather here compared to Iowa 721 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: is a treat. In fact, some of our Team Trump 722 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:02,280 Speaker 5: groundstaff from Iowa has joined us here in New Hampshire 723 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 5: to ensure another big victory. And they're saying they feel 724 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,440 Speaker 5: like they're on vacation, but it is still cold. It's 725 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 5: like thirty degrees, but that's not stopping the enthusiasm on 726 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 5: the ground. I'm calling you live actually from the Trump 727 00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 5: campaign headquarters, where we are making sure that Republicans across 728 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 5: the state, in common sense, independents who are in fact 729 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,520 Speaker 5: allowed to vote in our primary on Tuesday, get out 730 00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 5: and vote for President Trump. We've made hundreds of thousands 731 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 5: of direct voter contacts across the entire state. We got 732 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 5: door knockers on the ground, we have two hundred and 733 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: fifty town captains deploying their armies in their respective towns. 734 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 5: So we are feeling very confident that President Trump remains 735 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,439 Speaker 5: in a good position to win on Tuesday. And I'll 736 00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 5: tell you, Clay, since you asked, being so in New Hampshire, 737 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 5: this first of the nation primary week is really so special. 738 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 5: I actually just got lunch with someone from the team 739 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 5: in a local diner here in Manchester, New Hampshire, and 740 00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 5: our waitress had a forty five I'm to shirt on, 741 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,279 Speaker 5: so she was ready for the primary. I talked to 742 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 5: a great couple guys in Duncan Donuts this morning who 743 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,080 Speaker 5: were telling me they'll be at the rally and conquered 744 00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 5: tonight for President Trump. So you can steal a buzz 745 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,279 Speaker 5: of excitement in the air. The media ascends on this 746 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,720 Speaker 5: state and it's a lot of fun for the voters 747 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,640 Speaker 5: here and they take their jobs seriously at electing the 748 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 5: next president of the United States. 749 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 2: Hey, Caroline, it's Buck. Can you tell everybody we see 750 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: some of these reports and trying to explain what the 751 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:35,319 Speaker 2: rules are in New Hampshire and how it might make 752 00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 2: things a little bit different than they may expect in 753 00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 2: terms of who can vote independence, like you can register 754 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 2: the same day as something else. What are the specifics 755 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 2: of how the New Hampshire primaries going down this year 756 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 2: that people should be aware of about who's eligible and 757 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:50,399 Speaker 2: how they can vote. 758 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm glad you asked. So we have a semi 759 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,640 Speaker 5: open primary system, so it's a little bit unique from 760 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 5: other states that just have a regular open primary. The 761 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,239 Speaker 5: way it works that is, registered Republicans, of course, can 762 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 5: vote in the Republican presidential primary on Tuesday. Unaffiliated voters 763 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 5: aka independents, whichever you choose to call them, Those words 764 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 5: are synonymous here. Unaffiliated slash independents are also allowed to 765 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 5: vote in the primary. Now, voters in New Hampshire had 766 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 5: a chance to switch their party affiliation. That deadline was 767 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,840 Speaker 5: October the sixth, So that deadline has passed. However, we 768 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 5: do know, based on the data from our Secretary of State, 769 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,520 Speaker 5: that three thousand Democrats did in fact switch their party 770 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 5: affiliation to be unregistered voters. And we know for a 771 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 5: fact that Nicki Haley's campaign and also our Governor Kristin Nunu, 772 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,319 Speaker 5: who's been touting around with Nicki Haley in our state 773 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 5: of the past couple of weeks have really been focused 774 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 5: on getting those Democrats really to get out into vote 775 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 5: in our primary on Tuesday. So what we are saying 776 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 5: from Team Trump is, if you are a registered Republican 777 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 5: in this state, you better get your butt to the 778 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 5: polls on Tuesday and vote for the man who will 779 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 5: deliver on his promises as he did before. And if 780 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,800 Speaker 5: you are an unaffiliated voter, yes, you can still go 781 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 5: to the polls. Choose wisely, you know, again, choose the 782 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 5: candidate who's going to secure the border, rebuild the economy, 783 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,120 Speaker 5: reinvest in our energy. We have some of the highest 784 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 5: energy cost utility bills with any seat in this country 785 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,719 Speaker 5: thanks to Joe Biden's Warner Energy. It wasn't that way 786 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 5: a few short years ago. So unregistered voters can get 787 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,920 Speaker 5: out and vote on Tuesday. Of course, registered Republicans we 788 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 5: encouraged to get out as well. But Nikki Haley is 789 00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 5: harping on the fact that she wants those former Democrats 790 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 5: to get out and vote for her, and that tells 791 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 5: you everything you need to know about her and where 792 00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:44,360 Speaker 5: she stands on the key issues. 793 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 3: Caroline, For people who don't know you, we've had you 794 00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 3: on the show a bunch. You ran for Congress. 795 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: I think you're now twenty seven years old, and you 796 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: might sole only be twenty six, super young. Tell people 797 00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: about your background, and you got this new job after 798 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,480 Speaker 1: we'd already booked to you. I want to say congrats, 799 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,120 Speaker 1: you're now the national press secretary for the Trump campaign. 800 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: Before you cann't say we were early believers here because 801 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 2: we were trying to help Caroline be the youngest to 802 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:14,959 Speaker 2: ever win in the state of New Hampshire congressional seat. 803 00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 2: I think you actually would have been the youngest member 804 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 2: of Congress of all time. So I'm just saying some 805 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 2: of us, some of us saw talent early. 806 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:21,920 Speaker 3: Carolyn. 807 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 5: Yes, that is right, and I appreciate it. You guys 808 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 5: very much for always having me on the show. It's 809 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 5: a pleasure, and I will tell you I speak to 810 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,879 Speaker 5: a lot of great folks here in New Hampshire who 811 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 5: listened to you guys often. But I did run for 812 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 5: Congress in twenty twenty two. We had a huge primary 813 00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,800 Speaker 5: victory and then unfortunately fell short in the general election. 814 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 5: But hey, one door closes, another one opens. 815 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 3: Now. 816 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 5: I'm just so honored and thrilled to be part of 817 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 5: President Trump's team and I started a job officially. My 818 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 5: first full day was Tuesday, and it actually happened to 819 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 5: be the day that President Trump hosted his first rally 820 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,440 Speaker 5: of the primary week post Iowa, and it was in 821 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 5: my great hometown, the town of Atkinson, New Hampshire, a 822 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,719 Speaker 5: tiny farm town of two thousand people. So it was 823 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 5: a serendipitous, full circle moment for sure, and I'm just 824 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 5: very excited. You know, I did start my career in 825 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 5: politics at the White House working for President Trump and 826 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 5: then decided, of course to run for Congress after Joe 827 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,440 Speaker 5: Biden was installed in the White House and I saw 828 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 5: the destruction happening to our country very quickly. So it's 829 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,840 Speaker 5: an honor to be on the Trump team for this 830 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 5: just historic election that we have coming up. And you know, 831 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,279 Speaker 5: there's so much talk about this primary, as there should be. 832 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 5: Republicans need to get out and make their voices heard. 833 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 5: We also got to keep our eyes on the ball 834 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 5: focused on November because we cannot afford four more years 835 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 5: of sleepy Joe calling the shop in the White House, 836 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,359 Speaker 5: if he's even calling them. 837 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,440 Speaker 1: At all, Caroline, is this the first primary that you 838 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,960 Speaker 1: will be involved with when Bill Belichick was not the 839 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,719 Speaker 1: coach of the New England Patriots? And if so, how 840 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:58,080 Speaker 1: is that brutal reality setting in for all of the 841 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: New England Patriot fans as Mary Day gets closer and closer. 842 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 5: You know, I tend to be one of those Patriots 843 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 5: fans life long, okay, And since you mentioned I'm in 844 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,560 Speaker 5: my mid twenties, that is true, So I have never 845 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 5: really known a losing Patriots team. I've grown up here 846 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 5: my whole life just thinking that we're going to make 847 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 5: it to the super Bowl every season, and many of 848 00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 5: seasons that came true. But I'm of the camp that 849 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 5: I think Bill Belichick was nothing without Tom Brady. He 850 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 5: never would have been without Tom Brady. I love Tom Brady. 851 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 5: I think he's great. He's also a big fan of 852 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,200 Speaker 5: President Trump too, so that's a plus. But it has 853 00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,879 Speaker 5: been sad news in New England to see Belichick gone, 854 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:41,120 Speaker 5: because now it truly feels like Patriots dynasty is over. 855 00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,880 Speaker 5: And that's about as hard as news as one New 856 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 5: Englander can take. So it's been a couple of depressing weeks. 857 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 5: We'll have to see what comes next for our great patriots. 858 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 3: So back to politics if I can for a second. 859 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 2: Although for a moment there I thought you were going 860 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 2: to tell us that Tom Brady's a huge Clan Buck fan, 861 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,839 Speaker 2: So I got very excited. It'll be nice to hear. Yeah, 862 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 2: apparently he's a big Trump fan. Which that's the next 863 00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 2: best thing. Yeah, ask him. The next best thing is 864 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,080 Speaker 2: to be a Clay and Buck fan, or to be 865 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,959 Speaker 2: a Trump fan. So you guys look like you're gonna 866 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: you're gonna run the table here looking good in New 867 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,440 Speaker 2: Hampshire and elsewhere. I mean, the numbers are the numbers. 868 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 2: We're all familiar with them. You're probably more familiar that 869 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,120 Speaker 2: than pretty much anybody else. 870 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: Uh. 871 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 3: At this point, is Trump just is it a message 872 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,960 Speaker 3: of unity? And it's all over? I mean, is is he? 873 00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 2: Can you speak on his behalf to say that he 874 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,359 Speaker 2: welcomes any Republicans, independence, or even former Democrats into the tent. 875 00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:41,280 Speaker 5: Now, of course we need to unite, and as President 876 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,440 Speaker 5: Trump said in his speech two nights to go in 877 00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 5: New Hampshire, the greatest unifier in this country will be 878 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 5: six sess and there's been so much chaos and division 879 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,800 Speaker 5: because of Joe Biden's policies. But also, you know, he 880 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,839 Speaker 5: he campaigned as being a unifier in chief. He's been 881 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 5: anything but that. He is administration is stetfast on dividing 882 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 5: Americans based on race and gender, religion, creed, whatever it is. 883 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 5: If President Trump said it the other night, success will 884 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 5: be the greatest unifier in this country. And that's all 885 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:14,360 Speaker 5: the man wants to do is bring success back to America. 886 00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:15,839 Speaker 5: He said it the other night. He wants to make 887 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,600 Speaker 5: America rich as hell again. I mean that sounds pretty 888 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,719 Speaker 5: good to me. Who could disagree with that. He wants 889 00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 5: to keep our border security, he wants to make sure 890 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,560 Speaker 5: our police are funded. He wants to bring peace back 891 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 5: to the world stage. As you guys know well, Joe 892 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,799 Speaker 5: Bien's weakness is barreling us into a World War three. 893 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 5: And so I think that's a unifying message that will 894 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 5: exceed through this primary into the general election. So yes, 895 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 5: it is time to unify. Absolutely. There are still two 896 00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,680 Speaker 5: other Republicans in this race, though, who have refused really 897 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 5: to take a hard look in the mirror and see 898 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 5: this for what it is. Neither of them have a 899 00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 5: practical pathways denomination. And you know, there's been this spotlight 900 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,120 Speaker 5: shown on by the mainstream media in the last few 901 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 5: weeks on Nicki Hayley, and the truth is she cannot 902 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 5: be trusted on the issues that matter. She is more 903 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,120 Speaker 5: of a liberal than she is conservative. She's made egregious 904 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,760 Speaker 5: statements on the border. She supports amnesty, she's four open borders. 905 00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 5: She said that illegal immigrants in many cases are more 906 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 5: patriotic than hardworking Americans. I mean, that's insulting to so 907 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 5: many hardworking Americans who feel ripped off by the open 908 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:22,920 Speaker 5: border policies of the Biden administration right now. So, I 909 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 5: think as more and more people come to understand Nikki 910 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 5: Haley for who she truly is, her chances are diminishing, 911 00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 5: and she chooses to not drop out. After another devastating 912 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,760 Speaker 5: loss in New Hampshire, I think you'll see her political 913 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:39,919 Speaker 5: best certificate will be signed in her own home state 914 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 5: of South Carolina. And so, you know, it's time for 915 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 5: Republicans to unify. I realize President Trump's the presumptive nominee, 916 00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 5: and again we have a real hard fight on our 917 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,760 Speaker 5: hands in November that we need to win. And President 918 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 5: Trump is the man for the job. 919 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: Caroline, thanks for joining us on the way out. Report 920 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,440 Speaker 1: from the New York Times that Tim Scott is going 921 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:04,560 Speaker 1: to be at tonight's rally in New Hampshire endorsing Donald Trump. 922 00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 3: Do you think that's true. 923 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: I will tell you this. 924 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,719 Speaker 5: I have been bombarded at the Trump campaign headquarters in 925 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,439 Speaker 5: the last couple of hours, so I can't confirm whether 926 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 5: that is true or not. But as I just said, 927 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 5: we welcome all people to Team Trump, so that would 928 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,799 Speaker 5: be in great news if it is in fact true. 929 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 5: If you hear the clapping behind me, that's actually our 930 00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 5: Team Trump headquarters clapping for Senator jd Vance who just arrived. 931 00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:33,879 Speaker 5: He's here something for the president. We have a least 932 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 5: dephonic coming in tomorrow, so we welcome any and all 933 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 5: people who want to join the Trump train all the 934 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,480 Speaker 5: way to November. Get yourself up here to New Hampshire 935 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 5: and let's go win. 936 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: I think there'll be a special guest there tonight. I'm 937 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,399 Speaker 1: just saying, maybe not jd Vance, maybe not, at least 938 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: maybe somebody else. Thank you for hanging out with us, Caroline. 939 00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: Tell jd and Elise we said hi, and thanks for 940 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: coming on the show in. 941 00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 5: The past anytime, guys, thanks so much. 942 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 3: That is Caroline Levitt. 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