1 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the official show on the Fist Stripes podcast. 2 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: It's a solo episode with me Eli Susman, first time 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: in a while that I've done one of these all 4 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: by myself. Recording on December seconds, just a couple hours 5 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: after the passing of the MLB non tender deadline, and 6 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: there was a lot of consequences of this deadline passing, 7 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: specifically for the Marlins, but also across all of Major 8 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: League Baseball that I think is going to have a 9 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: very interesting impact on how the heart of this MLB 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 1: off season goes. The offseason itself is moving at a 11 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: pretty glacial pace for an expected reason, because we're coming 12 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,279 Speaker 1: off a year that was so dramatically altered by the 13 00:00:57,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic. Revenue who across the sport were plummeted 14 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: based on what they were originally expected to be, and 15 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: there's still some uncertainty about what the twenty twenty one 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: season is going to look like. They have a schedule 17 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: in place, everybody's hopeful about getting the whole thing in. 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure if you're not living under a rock, you're 19 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: aware of the progress that's been made in the United 20 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: States on the availability of a vaccine for COVID nineteen, 21 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: but the distribution plans for that vaccine are still very 22 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: much unsettled, so there are still a lot of questions 23 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: about what the revenues of the sport are going to 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: look like and how much these owners are going to 25 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: be willing to spend on their product. Given that uncertainty, 26 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: I was prepared for this to be somewhat of a 27 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: disappointing night. This is one of the first big tests 28 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: for the front office with Kim eng Now as general manager, 29 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: and of course for Marlin's ownership as well, knowing that 30 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: they're coming off a rough year for themselves and seeing 31 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 1: how committed they are to actually continuing to take a 32 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: step forward at the major league level heading into twenty 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: twenty one, and all things considered, I felt this was 34 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: a good night to be a Marlins fan, to feel 35 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: confident in the leadership that they have to make the 36 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: pretty obvious moves and some not so obvious moves that 37 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: I think are very well reasoned. They had eight players 38 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: that were potentially arbitration eligible, and just to give you 39 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: a quick primer on what that means in case you're 40 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: not totally familiar, players within between three and six years 41 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: of major league service time are eligible for arbitration. Means 42 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: that they haven't quite reached unrestricted free agency, but they 43 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: have reached a point in their careers where a third 44 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 1: party panel will be rewarding them based on their actual 45 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: production that they've had during major league games, a lot 46 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: of it compared to previous players at their respective position 47 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: and with their same kind of age and service time. 48 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: In almost all cases, the team and the player will 49 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 1: reach an agreement before it actually has to go to 50 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: an arbitration hearing, but in some cases it goes all 51 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: the way to that level, and that helps guide exactly 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: what these players are worth. What made this year kind 53 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: of unique a couple reasons. Well, one, there was this 54 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: concern that because of the depressed revenues across the sport, 55 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: that we would see a record number of players getting 56 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: non tendered, of teams being unwilling to meet what these 57 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: players would have earned through the arbitration process and cutting 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: ties with them right here and now without owing them 59 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: a cent for the twenty twenty one season. It wasn't 60 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: quite the doomsday scenario that some of the National reporters 61 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: had been hinting. At fifty nine non tenders prior to 62 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: this deadline. That's up slightly from fifty six last year, 63 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: but there were also a record number of of pre 64 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,840 Speaker 1: tender agreements. This is usually the night where if you're 65 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: not non tendered, then what the team does is ay 66 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: begin a negotiation with you on your contract for twenty 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: twenty one, and after some back and forth, that stuff 68 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 1: usually gets ironed out between now and the middle of January. 69 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: But in this particular night, and maybe some of it 70 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: was these players accepting low ball offers to avoid being 71 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: non tendered, there were fifty nine pre tender agreements, which 72 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: is about doubled what were at this time a year ago. 73 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: And that includes two guys on the Marlins that you're 74 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: very familiar with, Hasius Aguilar acgring to a one year 75 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: four point three to five million dollar deal, Garrett Cooper 76 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: agreeing to a one year, one point eight million dollar deal. 77 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,280 Speaker 1: And so that's good for them because in both cases 78 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: it is far more money than they've ever made in 79 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: a single year playing professional baseball, with Aguilar obviously well deserved, 80 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 1: one of the most valuable players all the Marlins in 81 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, and that wasn't always such an obvious expectation 82 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: for him, considering at this time a year ago the 83 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Rays put him on waivers. They weren't willing 84 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: to give him what was his arbitration price his first 85 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,160 Speaker 1: year going through that process, and that ended up being 86 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,839 Speaker 1: two point six million dollars at The Marlins committed to 87 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 1: him in twenty twenty, and that salary was pro rated 88 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: because of the shortened season. Either way, was a huge 89 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 1: bargain for the team. He was the leader on the 90 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 1: team in hits and run, scored in unintentional walks, and 91 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 1: he was great in clutch situations. He was more than 92 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: they could have hoped in the clubhouse, and as someone 93 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: who bought into their culture and preached all these positive habits. 94 00:05:48,400 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: He admittedly, by his own admission, he was overweight at 95 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 1: the end of his raised tenure, and he took it 96 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: upon himself to get in much better shape. He is 97 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: still one of the heaviest players in Major League Baseball. 98 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: He's not going to be a swimsuit model at any 99 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 1: time in the near future, but he drops between fifteen 100 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: and twenty pounds a bad weight. Heading into twenty twenty, 101 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: he kept it off and it seemed to really help 102 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: his performance. Both offensively and even defensively. Him and Cooper 103 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,719 Speaker 1: pretty much went back and forth between the first base 104 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 1: and the DH spot when they were both healthy. Aguilar 105 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: missed a tiny bit of time with a back issue, 106 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: but didn't need to go on the injury list. He 107 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: still played in fifty two of the sixty games and 108 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: in every postseason game. Garrett Cooper, which is somewhat of 109 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: a theme of his career, had a really rough luck 110 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: getting caught up in the COVID nineteen outbreak that affected 111 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: the Marlins early in the season. He ended up missing 112 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: almost half of the shortened regular season after catching COVID 113 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: in the process of working himself back into shape. But 114 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 1: when he was on the active roster, he was at 115 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: bat pret bat, really one of the most hitters in 116 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: their lineup, if not the most dangerous hitter that they had. 117 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,719 Speaker 1: A couple of their longest home runs of the season 118 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,360 Speaker 1: came off of the bat of Cooper, and their most 119 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: important home run i'd say the entire year during the 120 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 1: wild Card Series against the Cubs in that clinching game. 121 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 2: Darbish Ready here comes the two two uh oh that 122 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 2: one hammered to left Darvish with Schwarber back there looking 123 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 2: and that one is gone. Garret Cooper will touch them all. 124 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: With performance bonuses. He could actually end up north of 125 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: two million dollars in twenty twenty one, so that's great 126 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: news for him, coming just a few days after he 127 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: announced that he got engaged to his longtime girlfriends Erica. 128 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: Congrats to both of them. So this is going pretty well. 129 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: And I would say in both cases, especially though in 130 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: Aguilar's case, that there was real concern about him being 131 00:07:55,280 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: a non tender candidate because well, for a couple of reasons. 132 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 1: I'd say the biggest motivating factor is was the presence 133 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: of Cooper as well as first basement in waiting Leywin Diaz. 134 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 1: Diaz is one of their very top prospects at any position, 135 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: someone that has great offensive potential and who has already 136 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: shown in very limited major league action more defensive aptitude 137 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 1: at first base than either Cooper or Agiler had Last year. 138 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: All three of them were up at the majors at 139 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 1: some point, but Leywin struggled offensively in his very limited 140 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: debut and got sent back down, So that helped clear 141 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: the logjam a little bit, but so did the fact 142 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: that there was a universal DH in twenty twenty. Remember 143 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: that was not the plan when they set out on 144 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season. It was added kind of impromptly 145 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 1: by Commissioner Rob Manfred. He had the power to unilaterally 146 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: establish some rules for that shortened season once the players 147 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: and MLB weren't able to come to a compromise what 148 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: exactly that shortened season would look like. It was ultimately 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: Manfred's decision to go with sixty games in the regular season, 150 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: to expand the playoffs to sixteen teams, to make the 151 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: DH universal, the extra ending rule, etc. So those were 152 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: things that the Marlins did not plan on that they 153 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: couldn't have possibly planned on entering the year before. We knew, 154 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: of course, what the consequences of the pandemic would be, 155 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: and ultimately it ended up being a big positive for 156 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: the team and unintentional positive because they're able to have 157 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,200 Speaker 1: both Cooper and Aguilar in the lineup at the same time. 158 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Both were productive at the same time, and the offense 159 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: for the Marlins was generally a weakness for much of 160 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: that shortened season, but with having both of those guys, 161 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: they helped boost it just enough up to respectability that 162 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: they were able to eke out a lot of one 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: run wins that ended up making the difference between themselves 164 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: and the other while card contenders in the National League 165 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: and the other contenders for second place in the National 166 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: League Geese. I don't think anybody would have expected them 167 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: to finish ahead of the Phillies and the Mets and 168 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: the Nationals, and they did to earn that automatic berth 169 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: into the expanded postseason. The issue is that the rules 170 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty one season are not set in 171 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: stone yet, and it's kind of inexplicable because this offseason. 172 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: There hasn't been much going on during this MLB offseason 173 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: for understandable reasons. Owners are reluctant to spends until they 174 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: know exactly what kind of revenue they're going to be 175 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:39,559 Speaker 1: able to get out of it next year. But during 176 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: that downtime, you'd expect MLB in the Players Association to 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: hammer out the details of whether or not there will 178 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: be a universal DH next year, because it is not 179 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: written in the standard Collective Bargaining Agreement and that agreement 180 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: is not eligible to be changed until a year from now, 181 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,600 Speaker 1: so this would have to be a separate negotiation to 182 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: amend that for the season. The DH seems to be 183 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: something that everybody is on board with the owners and 184 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: Major League Baseball. They want to see more offense in baseball, 185 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: and they don't want their pitchers putting themselves in risky 186 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: positions where they're not comfortable swinging the stick. For a 187 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of these pitchers, if you ask them, honestly, they'd 188 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: prefer not to put themselves in these awkward positions as 189 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,599 Speaker 1: a hitter when they know that they're going to be 190 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 1: an automatic out. They'd rather have their teammates swinging the 191 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: bat for them. And these players obviously want that extra job. 192 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:43,079 Speaker 1: Essentially that in the National League where half the teams 193 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: will now have these built in play appearances in their 194 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 1: lineup every single game, and that encourages owners to actually 195 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: bring in somebody with real experience and skill to fill 196 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: out that roster and to occupy that spawn the lineup 197 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: on a regular base. So it seems to favor everybody, 198 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: but from MLB's perspective, they probably see it more as 199 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 1: a player perk, and my speculation, this isn't my own reporting, 200 00:12:13,160 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: is that Major League Baseball is going to drag its 201 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: feet on this situation until the players' union agrees to 202 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: some sort of concession that would favor the owners down 203 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: the road. If there is for some reason no DH, 204 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: then that would put Aguilar and Cooper in a very 205 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: challenging position because with the expectation that Lewin Diaz is 206 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: fairly close to being ready to be a major league regular, 207 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: that him and Aguilar and Cooper are not really going 208 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: to be able to coexist all at the same time 209 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: at the major league level, which creates the possibility that 210 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: either one of those veterans could be a trade candidate 211 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: for the Marlins to clear a little bit of salary 212 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: and for them to address other needs or their minor 213 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 1: league depth in the process of trading them. Because in 214 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,959 Speaker 1: deciding to tender contracts both Cooper and Aguilar, they came 215 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,959 Speaker 1: to a determination that both of them have positive trade 216 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: value at this moment that you would be able to 217 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: get something of significance in return, whether it's simple financial 218 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,920 Speaker 1: relief or whether it's an actual young talent to help 219 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: put them down the road. That they made this determination 220 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: that bring them back that committing to give them a 221 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: twenty to twenty one contract would be beneficial one way 222 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: or another, directly or indirectly for them moving forward. So 223 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: we'll have to see how that plays out. But it's 224 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: been in my opinion that assuming there is a DH 225 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: in the National League, that this offense has enough concerns 226 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: in it that you really need all those guys available. 227 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,280 Speaker 1: You need to keep Leywin in the organization. Obviously, even 228 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: if he's not ready for opening Day. He's hugely important 229 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: to have as depth, and he's a guy that I 230 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: could see during the course of the season establishing himself 231 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: as a legitimate middle of the order type of guy 232 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 1: that Cooper earlier in his career. Even the first base 233 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: is his primary position right now. He does have experience 234 00:14:16,920 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: in his career in both left field and right field, 235 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: so there's a scenario where HEYESUS and Cooper can be 236 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: in the lineup at the same time DH or not. 237 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: But especially if there is a DH, then it's super 238 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: cut and dry getting them in the middle of the 239 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: order at the same time. And based on what they 240 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: showed last year, I would say that Aguilar is the 241 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: one I'm a little bit more concerned about. Both of 242 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: them are about thirty years old, more or less in 243 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: the prime of their careers physically and based on what 244 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: we know about aging curves, but with Aguilar there are 245 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: some red flags based on his recent history, because even 246 00:14:55,840 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: though his twenty twenty was inarguably a big success, if 247 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: you expand that sample size to include twenty nineteen, then 248 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: he's been precisely a league average hitter, a one hundred 249 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: weighted runs CRADD plus, and that goes along with his 250 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: lack of defensive versatility. Whereas Cooper, it least has a 251 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: little bit of that, Aguilar isn't going to do anything 252 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: aside from sheer emergency situations where he's going to move 253 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: off of first base, and he's also one of the 254 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: slowest space runners in Major League Baseball as well, So 255 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: that certainly adds up for a guy that was one 256 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: of the premier home run hitters in baseball in twenty eighteen, 257 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: but in both twenty nineteen and even in twenty twenty 258 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: when he was valuable to the team overall, he wasn't 259 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: doing it by hitting it over the fence all that often. 260 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,280 Speaker 1: So that lack of over defence power means that even 261 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: when he's doing something positive, that he's going to have 262 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: to be on the bases where he'll be moving from 263 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:56,000 Speaker 1: station to station and very reliant on his teammates to 264 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: get him around in those situations, I think it's anthing 265 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: guaranteed that he has solved everything or that he has 266 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: truly revitalized himself. There's still some question marks about him. 267 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: And ultimately for one year and for four point three 268 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: five million dollars and for a contract that I should 269 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: know it is not totally guaranteed in these situations that 270 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: for these players heading into spring training, if you choose 271 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: to release a player on a standard arbitration deal, you 272 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: only owe them one sixth approximately of their salary, And 273 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: even if you bring them all the way up to 274 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: opening day and then decide to cut ties, then the 275 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: team is only on the hook for about a quarter 276 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: of their salary. You'll remember this was the case with 277 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,080 Speaker 1: Dan Strayley a couple of years ago, where it seemed 278 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: throughout the process that he was poised to fill out 279 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: their rotation in year two of a rebuild. He didn't 280 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: look all that great in spring training, and the Marlins 281 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 1: were very pleased with the progress that their other young 282 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 1: arms were making during camp, so they caught everybody off 283 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: guard and they released Strali right before twenty nineteen opening day, 284 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 1: and they ended up saving close to four million of 285 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:12,399 Speaker 1: the five million dollars that Australi was originally owed. So 286 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: with the Marlins. Even though these numbers are significant raises 287 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: compared to what these players made the previous year, it 288 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: is not at all a overwhelming commitment for them, especially 289 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: considering that there are so few other contracts that this 290 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: team has on the books right now. To get to 291 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,359 Speaker 1: the rest of the arbitration class, the team had eight 292 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,199 Speaker 1: total players that were eligible heading into this night, and 293 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: seven of those eight were tendered contracts in some form. 294 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: As we just said, we have specific pre tender deals 295 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: ironed out with Cooper and with Aguilar, with Brian Anderson, 296 00:17:47,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: with Jorge Alfarrow, with Richard Bleier, with new guy Adam Simber, 297 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: and who's the last guy I'm missing here, gimme Garcia. 298 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 1: With those five guys, they've all been tendered contracts, meaning 299 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:05,199 Speaker 1: that the negotiations for their twenty twenty one contracts have 300 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 1: officially begun. There's still some time for that to go 301 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: back and forth between now and usually the middle of January, 302 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and then after which point you begin to schedule actual 303 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: arbitration hearings. If the player in the club are totally 304 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: unable to find common grounds on that price, then it 305 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: goes to a third party panel of arbiters to look 306 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: at past president president and come to a decision on 307 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: what that player will make before moving forward to things. 308 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: Number eight. The eighth and final guy that would have 309 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: been eligible is the one that is for this moment 310 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,439 Speaker 1: no longer with the Marlins organization. That is right hander 311 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: Ryan Stanek, who was part of that pretty big trade 312 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: at the twenty nineteen trade deadline with the Rays. Acquired 313 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 1: along with outfielder Jesu Sanchez and heading to Tampa Bay 314 00:18:54,160 --> 00:18:58,160 Speaker 1: was Nick Anderson and Trevor Richards. The early returns from 315 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: that trade at the end of swayne nineteen were pretty mortifying, 316 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: where Nick Anderson totally ascended into being perhaps the elite 317 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 1: reliever in all Major League Baseball. He was untouchable down 318 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the stretch in twenty nineteen for that Tampa Bay Rays team, 319 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: and it was a little embarrassing to see the way 320 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: that he took off immediately after being dealt, whereas Stanic 321 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: was immediately plugged into high leverage opportunities in the Marlins 322 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: bullpen and he cratered in a few situations on the stretch. 323 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: Granted that team was not in contention there wasn't very 324 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: much on the line, even though it was quote unquote 325 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: high leverage, but he did not take well to that role. 326 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: He was coming off a minor back injury and simply 327 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: didn't look quite right for the rest of that season. 328 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: Now the problem is heading into twenty twenty, he had 329 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: a long offseason to bounce back and to figure things out, 330 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: and he didn't do it. He really struggled in his 331 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: limited action in twenty twenty, just like Cooper and just 332 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: like what about eighteen players. Early in the season he 333 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 1: tested positive for COVID and it ended up keeping him 334 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: sidelined for close to a month, and so the sample 335 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 1: on him in twenty twenty is really almost irrelevant. But 336 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: in that small sample size, he did nothing to install 337 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: confidence in his team that he could actually get the 338 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: job done. They even moved him out of those high 339 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: leverage situations. He was more of a mop up guy, 340 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:39,679 Speaker 1: certainly behind blier In, behind Jimmy, behind Brandon Kinseler, behind 341 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: James Hoyt in the pecking order. He was not under 342 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: all that much pressure, even for a team that was 343 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 1: in the postseason hunt throughout the summer, and yet he 344 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: really struggled to He was not missing bats the way 345 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,920 Speaker 1: you thought he could. He was. He didn't have the 346 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: same command that you were hoping for. And one thing 347 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: in particular that jumped out to me was his His 348 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: splitter was perhaps his signature pitch, even for a guy 349 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 1: that throws high nineties. The splitter was one of his 350 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: main putaway pitches, one that opposing batters historically were really 351 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: struggling to make quality contact against. But in twenty twenty 352 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: limited sample, again, I'll remind you, the spin rate on 353 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: that pitch was totally off. The movement on it was 354 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: not the same, and as a result, hitters were able 355 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: to collaborate and did a lot of damage in very 356 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: small sample against that pitch. And it's enough doubt that 357 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:39,159 Speaker 1: I can understand the decision. I was frankly petitioning for 358 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: him not to be involved during the postseason because I 359 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: didn't feel he could be be trusted based on what 360 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: he had showed during the regular season, and now heading 361 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 1: into what would have been what fourth year in Major 362 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: League baseball, he had enough service time to be eligible 363 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: for arbitration. It was to a pretty modest raised from 364 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: the league minimum to about eight hundred thousand dollars, only 365 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: a couple hundred thousand dollars difference over the course of 366 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: the year. But just as much as it was a 367 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 1: money thing, this was more about simply turning the page 368 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 1: and clearing a spot on the roster for a younger 369 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: pitcher to step up into that situation because Stanik was 370 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: not the same guy who was advertised when the Marlins 371 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: acquired him from the Rais, So there was a number 372 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,680 Speaker 1: of factors contributing to that. Craig Mish, for one, has 373 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,760 Speaker 1: always been a big advocate for Stanek, and I believe 374 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Speaker 1: he correctly points out that if he was totally healthy 375 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: for an extended period of time, that you would see 376 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: much better results out of him. But one of the 377 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,679 Speaker 1: big red flags for me was that splitter and the 378 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: fact that the pitch was not the same and he 379 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: needs to go back to the workshop moving forward, even 380 00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: his fastball veloscity was down, and for a guy that 381 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't have a ton of major league experience, but 382 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: he's ready in his late twenty that for a lot 383 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: of pitchers of that age, your fastball velocity begins to 384 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: steadily decline, even if you're only pitching in very limited 385 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: samples one ending at a time out of the bullpen. 386 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: I support the decision to just cut ties with him. 387 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 1: I hope they left the door open to maybe negotiate 388 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: a minor league deal where they can invite him to 389 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: spring training, just get a look and see what more 390 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: he's doing, because the bullpen continues to be a very 391 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: big concern moving forward for this team. Meanwhile, around the majors, 392 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: there were a lot of prominent names that were let 393 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: go for these financially motivated reasons. The Cubs, in particular, 394 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: were a team that was in the middle of the 395 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: action as they start what could be a quasi rebuild 396 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: at the end of the theo Epstein era. At the 397 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: end of last year, they had Jose Martinez on their team, 398 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,400 Speaker 1: and he slumped towards the end of the year. He's 399 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: someone that is had his glory years with the Saint 400 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,440 Speaker 1: Louis Cardinals, as I'm sure you remember only a couple 401 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 1: of years ago, one of the more dangerous bats against 402 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: left handed pitching. He got non tendered by the Cubs, 403 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: as did Kyle Schwarber, who was the World Series Hero 404 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen. Former early first round pick, and 405 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: even now I think it's hard to argue that he 406 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 1: has some of the best raw power in all the majors. 407 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 1: He's not someone that really sticks out to me as 408 00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: a great fit for the Marlins, given that he was 409 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 1: kind of mediocre last year Defensively. The only position that 410 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 1: he's somewhat competent at is left field, and the Marlins 411 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: have Corey Dickerson more or less entrenched in that spot 412 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,360 Speaker 1: for one more year. But still someone that I'm sure 413 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: is going to command a lot of attention for good reason, 414 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: and someone who has been marketable along the way. I mean, 415 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: no doubt, somebody that is a good ambassador for the game, 416 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: but someone who never quite fulfilled his huge potential that 417 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: he had when he was first breaking into the majors. 418 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: Left Hander Chasen Shreve was non tendered by the Mets, 419 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: and Shreve is someone that is on my radar a 420 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: little bit because he had a couple really solid years 421 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: early in his career with the Yankees at the same 422 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: time when Gary Denbow and Dan Greenley and others were 423 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 1: part of the Yankees organization, and as we've seen, those 424 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: connections can go a long way in terms of who 425 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 1: the Marlins pursue. So I would just keep that name 426 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: in mind Chasen Shreve for a Marlins team that still 427 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: has room to improve in the bullpen. He did strike 428 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:52,119 Speaker 1: out about one third of all the batters he faced 429 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: last year, even though his bottom line stats were more 430 00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: or less right around the league average. But given his 431 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: fairly long track record in the fact that he does 432 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 1: miss bats, I would just keep him in mind. No, 433 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: mar Mazara was a name that we heard at this 434 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 1: time a year ago that, if I remember correctly, Craig 435 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: Mish was reporting that there were actual trade talks involving 436 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: the Marlins. He ultimately went from the Rangers to the 437 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 1: White Sox, then had a disappointing year, somewhat in the 438 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,359 Speaker 1: same vein as Kyle Schwarber, where his raw power is 439 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: immense and he has great prospect pedigree. He's even younger 440 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: than Schworber, I think, only twenty six years old, and 441 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,879 Speaker 1: his raw stats earlier in his career were pretty solid 442 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,920 Speaker 1: with the Rangers. But then you have to count for 443 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:47,159 Speaker 1: the fact that they were compiled over the course of 444 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,640 Speaker 1: a long season and that he was playing his home 445 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: games in a very hitter friendly environment. That once you 446 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: actually get things adjusted, then all of a sudden, he's 447 00:26:55,960 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: not exactly a very impactful hitter at at all. Is 448 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: someone that is not even league average once you take 449 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: everything into consideration, and simply not quite as athletic as 450 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: he looks and not as impactful as he looks. So 451 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that he's another name that will come up 452 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,760 Speaker 1: being linked to them, to the Marlins because of those 453 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: negotiations that happened to year ago, and that his is 454 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,400 Speaker 1: like cost will be pretty low. I imagine he'll get 455 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: a major league deal, but not a substantial one coming 456 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: off the kind of year that he had in Chicago, 457 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: but not someone that I feel is a particularly good 458 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: fit with the Orioles. They cut costs tonight trading their 459 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: shortstop Hoose Gilesias and non tendering infielder hanser Alberto, who 460 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: has nice bats ball skills. Another name to keep in 461 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: mind for a Marlins team that still has some question 462 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: marks at second base, in particular with Jazz Chisholm and 463 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:03,240 Speaker 1: Is Diez in the mix, but neither of whom have 464 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: much of a major league track record at all, and 465 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: they'd probably like to fill that second base position with 466 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: some sort of everyday caliber player of some kinds, whether 467 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: it's they put their trust in those young guys, or 468 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: they go out and acquire a veteran that would free 469 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 1: up John Birdie to move into a super utility role 470 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,359 Speaker 1: instead of holding down second base, which he did for 471 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: a good portion of last season. Outfielder Brian Goodwin got 472 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: non tendered. He does a little bit of everything in 473 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: terms of having decent pop, decent plate discipline, outfield defense. 474 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 1: He's played all three outfield spots. Probably profiles best in 475 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: a corner spot, but can give you that versatility a 476 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: little bit. Adam Duvall someone that we got painfully familiar 477 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: with in twenty twenty playing against the Braves. He hit 478 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: more home runs against the Marlins last year than any 479 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: other player during that shortened season, including three home runs 480 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: during that epic twenty nine to nine blowout loss. He 481 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: is a little older than these other players, thirty two 482 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: years old, and someone that even though the power has 483 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: been extremely impressive, especially since he joined the Braves organization, 484 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: that his on base skills have been severely lacking, and 485 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: before he arrived with Atlanta he was not a consistent 486 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: producer of any kind. So someone to keep in mind, 487 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: but somewhat of an awkward fit given that his primary 488 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: position is left field, and his age and his kind 489 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: of struggles to get on base when he's not hitting 490 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: the ball over the fence. David Dahl, outfielder for the Rockies, 491 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: former first round draft pick that put up somewhat like Mazare. 492 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: He just put up really good raw numbers early in 493 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: his career, and he's one of the younger players that 494 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: was part of this non tender wave. But simply put, 495 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: he's coming off a lost year with the Rockies last year, 496 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of time missed to injury, and when 497 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: he was healthy, he was an automatic out in their lineup, 498 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,479 Speaker 1: and even early in his career, once you put those 499 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: stats in context, you look at the home run road 500 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: splits and you consider the park factors at play in 501 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: Colorado home games, that his peak performance really wasn't all 502 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: that much better than your average outfielder. So he's someone 503 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: to take a flyer on. And with players like Doll 504 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: and with Mazara, these are ones that have multiple years 505 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: of arbitration eligibility remaining, and that's something to keep in mind. 506 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: This is certainly something that came up with the Marlins 507 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: last year when they signed Jimmy Garcia, who had been 508 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: non tendered by the Dodgers. He of course had a 509 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: lights out year in their bullpen, almost perfect during the 510 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: regular season, and the reason why he's still in the 511 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,040 Speaker 1: Fold for twenty twenty one one is because he had 512 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: that extra year of arbitration eligibility remaining. It's like having 513 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: a club option on a player that if they do well, 514 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you really reap the benefits 515 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: of keeping them in the Fold the following year. So 516 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: if someone like Mazara or Dall really puts it together 517 00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:22,120 Speaker 1: and lives up to their potential in twenty twenty one, 518 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: whatever team has them automatically has this flexibility to renew 519 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: them for the following year. And with Doll, I mean, 520 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: he's a really exceptional case where he actually has three 521 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: total years of control coming up on him, so you 522 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: can actually have him under control for twenty twenty one, 523 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, and twenty twenty three if his production 524 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: merits that. Getting back though, to the three players of 525 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: these non tenders that I feel are an especially good 526 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: fit for the Marlins, one that I'm sure you've seen 527 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: discussed on our website fishtrips dot com. We had an 528 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 1: article from Hector Rodriguez about it, and even more loud 529 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,640 Speaker 1: conversation on social media is former Twins outfielder Eddie Rosario. 530 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: Rosario has been a really good power hitter for the 531 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: Twins the last four seasons or so, and the three 532 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 1: of those seasons came under the tutelage of hitting coach 533 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,680 Speaker 1: James Rawson. James Rawson, who has since been hired as 534 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:26,160 Speaker 1: the Marlins bench coach and offensive coordinator, reportedly their personal 535 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: relationship is a very close one as well aside from 536 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: working well on the field together. So the fact that 537 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: the Twins are parting ways with Rosario that has sparked 538 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: some expectation that he could be a target for the Marlins. 539 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: Though over the fence, power is a pretty safe bet, 540 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 1: the arm is strong, the tools are there. Someone that 541 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: is not as disciplined at the plate as you would 542 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: hope for, and despite his athleticism, his defensive instincts have 543 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,120 Speaker 1: been somewhat lacking. He's not a perfect player, and I 544 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: don't find the upside to be all that amazing, but 545 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: it's the Marlins are at a stage where if there's 546 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: someone out there that they can get on a short 547 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: term deal who is in the prime of their careers, 548 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: and who is a clear upgrade over their existing in 549 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: house options. They need to seriously consider it. I mean, 550 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: that's it's the best of all worlds to have somebody 551 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: like that, and Rosario is potentially a very good fit 552 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: for them. He was due to make somewhere in the 553 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: neighborhood of nine to ten million dollars had he gone 554 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: all the way to arbitration this year. And I'll be 555 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: curious to see what exactly he's seeking in free agency, 556 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: because he's young enough and he has that recent track 557 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 1: record that's good enough that I think he would be 558 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,880 Speaker 1: able to get a two year contract in free agency. 559 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,760 Speaker 1: It's just that the average annual value would be significantly 560 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: low than that nine to ten million dollar range. So 561 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: is he looking for this nice one year pillow contract 562 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: to really establish himself as a star outfielder, or is 563 00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: he maximizing his total earnings with a two year deal. 564 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 1: Let's say a two year, thirteen two year, fourteen million 565 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:20,560 Speaker 1: dollar deal. 566 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 3: Oh my high fly right field. Going back as gamble, 567 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 3: there's another one for Rosario. His third of the series, 568 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: a two run home run at it's four to one. 569 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: That's why I always say Eddie Rozari is just a 570 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 4: tough guy to pitch too. You saw him swinging a 571 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,440 Speaker 4: pitch in that at bat at his neck neck high, 572 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: and so you think, Okay, he's not ever going to 573 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: get to it. He throws another one up on the 574 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 4: zone and Eddie just hammers this thing. 575 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 1: Reliever Archie Bradley highly regarded prospect when he first broke 576 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: through to the majors. Previously was regarded as a starting pitcher, 577 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,400 Speaker 1: but they made the decision pretty early on to actually 578 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: convert him to a reliever, and he took off as 579 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: a premier setup man for the Dim way back in 580 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,320 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. He's been staple in their bullpen ever since, 581 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and his production hasn't quite matched that twenty seventeen level 582 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: ever since. He doesn't miss as many bats as you'd 583 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: want from like a true lights out reliever. But I 584 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: see some similarities to like a Yimmy Garcia for sure, 585 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: someone that it's fairly reliable at pounding the strike zone, 586 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: and that was especially true last year, only walking one 587 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,960 Speaker 1: and a half batters per nine innings and keeping the 588 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: ball in the ballpark too, So I guess that's one 589 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: key difference from Yummi where that was red flag on 590 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: La Marlins signs Garcia last year, but with Archie Bradley, 591 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: he's been pretty consistent year to year at preventing home 592 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,839 Speaker 1: runs and we know how that is increasingly becoming such 593 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,919 Speaker 1: a critical part of how Major league teams score run 594 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,440 Speaker 1: that if they're not hitting the ball over the wall, 595 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: that you can as a pitcher, you can dance around 596 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 1: putting on free base runners or balls in play, because 597 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 1: as long as the ball is not getting over the wall, 598 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 1: you're not going to give up a crooked number. So 599 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: he's coming off a season in twenty twenty where he 600 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: had a two nine to five ERA. He was traded 601 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: mid season. Excuse me, he was traded mid season from 602 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks to the Cincinnati Reds. That's where he finished 603 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: the year because the Diamondbacks were out of contention, But 604 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,120 Speaker 1: prior to that, he had spent his whole career in 605 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 1: the d Backs organization. If the Marlins signed him, all 606 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: else being the same, it's pretty clear that he would 607 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: be their closer. With him, It's a similar situation with 608 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: Rosario where I feel like there will be opportunities for 609 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: him to get a two year deal, and in this case, 610 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: I feel the Marlins would be more receptive to offering 611 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: a multi year deal for him. There is no super 612 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: obvious Marlins connection with him personally to this organization that 613 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: would necessarily show that the Marlins are a favorite for 614 00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,480 Speaker 1: him or that he has a preference for them, But 615 00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: it seems to be a pretty good match between them. 616 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: And then there's left hander Carlos Rodon, formerly of the 617 00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: Chicago White Sox. If you've been a Marlins fan for 618 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: a while, then you may remember the expectation that he 619 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:26,280 Speaker 1: would be their top draft pick way back in twenty 620 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,800 Speaker 1: fourteen with the number two overall pick. The Marlins stuns 621 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,400 Speaker 1: pretty much everybody by reaching to get Tyler Colek with 622 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: that pick. Colek, who recently became a minor league free 623 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: agent and is officially out of the organization finally, but 624 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,799 Speaker 1: during which time Rodon with the White Sox, he had 625 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 1: an up and down career with them. At least he 626 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,120 Speaker 1: made it to the majors, which is something that you 627 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,839 Speaker 1: obviously can't say for Colek, appearing in parts of six 628 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 1: seasons with them, missing a significant amount of time with injury, 629 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: especially in twenty seventeen and in twenty nineteen. He barely 630 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,799 Speaker 1: pitched at all this past season in twenty twenty, just 631 00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 1: seven and two thirds endings, including two games out of 632 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen. Rodin has that standout slider dating all the 633 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: way back to his amateur baseball days. The thing is, 634 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: his control has been kind of inconsistent. His fastball velocity 635 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: has been waning, no doubt, with the injuries playing a 636 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: role in that, and you're certainly buying low off of 637 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:31,280 Speaker 1: him just because he pitched so little in twenty twenty 638 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:35,080 Speaker 1: and in twenty nineteen when he did pitch, he struggled. 639 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: For his whole major league career. Overall, he is a 640 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 1: four to fourteen ERA, a four to twenty six FIP 641 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: that's solid for at starting pitcher, and especially if you 642 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: believe that limiting him to a bullpen roll will be 643 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 1: able to even accentuate his strengths and get better results. 644 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,880 Speaker 1: I think that's the most likely route that his career 645 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: takes at this point. In order to minimize his workload 646 00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: and focus more on that slider, that you put him 647 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: in a relief role where he gets to focus on 648 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,280 Speaker 1: what he does best. Again, for those previously mentioned reasons, 649 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: the Marlins still have opportunities available in their pen, and 650 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: Radon is somebody that has that kind of upside, even 651 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: more swing and mispotential than Archie Bradley does. It's just 652 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,080 Speaker 1: that he has less familiarity with bullpen. The other angle 653 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: to look at it is as somebody to partially fill 654 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:35,280 Speaker 1: out the starting rotation with the Marlins dfaing Jose Urania. 655 00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the gray beard on their rotation as it 656 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: currently stands, would be Sandy al Contra, someone that is 657 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,759 Speaker 1: just twenty five years old and perhaps not even in 658 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,360 Speaker 1: the prime of his career yet. It's exciting that the 659 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 1: Marlins have so many options, both on their major league 660 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 1: roster and at the high levels of their minors that 661 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: you think still have the potential to develop into top 662 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,759 Speaker 1: the rotation kind of arms. But that lack of track 663 00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 1: record outside of Sandy and Pablo is kind of frightening, 664 00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: and it leaves open the possibility that things really fall 665 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: apart for them if they have some bad luck with injuries, 666 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: or those players face adversity early in the year and 667 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,239 Speaker 1: don't have a veteran to go to. So Rodon is 668 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: somebody that has more experience than those other guys and 669 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,320 Speaker 1: at various points in his career, he has been really 670 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: solid in the rotation. Rodon I think even more so 671 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: than Bradley or Rosario. You're getting this guy as a flyer. 672 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: I think he's somebody that'd be able to ink for 673 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,839 Speaker 1: no more than two to three million dollars guaranteed, with 674 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: a lot of performance bonuses stacked on top of that 675 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: if he actually stays healthy. As mentioned in an article 676 00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: that I put up here on Wednesday night on fish 677 00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: strips dot com, the latest payroll projection for the Marlins 678 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,920 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one is fifty eight point five million dollars. 679 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,480 Speaker 1: For contexts, they were heading into twenty twenty spring training 680 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,920 Speaker 1: with about low seventies million dollars in commitments. Entering twenty nineteen, 681 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,640 Speaker 1: they were in the mid seventies. The first year of 682 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: the rebuilds, they were closer to one hundred million dollars, 683 00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: although that was weighed down by some very undesirable contracts. 684 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,040 Speaker 1: This is poised to be the lowest payroll that they've 685 00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: had for a team since twenty fourteen. And you know, 686 00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: that's hard to imagine considering that the expectations for this 687 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,200 Speaker 1: team are going to be much higher for twenty twenty 688 00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,239 Speaker 1: one than we've seen ever since new ownership took over. 689 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,360 Speaker 1: You could justify it for some of the reasons I 690 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, with the pandemic limiting revenues and all the 691 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:56,160 Speaker 1: uncertainty about what those revenues are going to look like 692 00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: moving forward, that the majority of teams around baseball be 693 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,959 Speaker 1: spending less on players than they did the previous year. 694 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: That being said, if they want this fan base to 695 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: truly support them and believe in the vision that this 696 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: organization has, it takes some actual It takes some moves 697 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: that show your true commitment to winning. You can't look 698 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 1: at this team honestly and feel confident in them replicating 699 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,120 Speaker 1: what they did in twenty twenty over the course of 700 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,800 Speaker 1: a full length season and keeping pace in a highly 701 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:37,440 Speaker 1: competitive National League East Division unless they do a little 702 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:42,040 Speaker 1: bit more. So, I would hope that we see them 703 00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:47,520 Speaker 1: really seriously pursue one of the couple hundred players that 704 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 1: are available in free agency. It doesn't have to only 705 00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:52,880 Speaker 1: be limited to these recent nontenders, but all the guys 706 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,279 Speaker 1: that were out there to begin with who already had 707 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: their contract expiring earlier in the off season. Those three 708 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: that I went to detail about Eddie Rosario, Archie Bradley, 709 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: Carlos Rodon. I would say it's more likely than not 710 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,520 Speaker 1: that they get one of those players before this offseason 711 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: is through, at least if they're listening to this podcast 712 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: and taking my opinion for what it's worth, I see 713 00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,919 Speaker 1: potential fit for those guys in this situation. It's gonna 714 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,640 Speaker 1: be a tricky balancing act. You gotta give them credit 715 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: that we're at this point with a forty man roster 716 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: that only has one vacancy. Thirty nine players on forty 717 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,720 Speaker 1: men at this moment. So if you're to add multiple 718 00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:43,880 Speaker 1: players of this caliber, and if they're gonna really shock 719 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,239 Speaker 1: us and make a big splash, Marlins don't have a 720 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: lot of fat left to trim. A good problem to 721 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:53,319 Speaker 1: have that all these are gonna be tough decisions. So 722 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,200 Speaker 1: we have the Virtual Winter Meetings only a few days away, 723 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have coverage throughout it on fish stripes 724 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: dot com. I'm sure we're going to be recording some 725 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 1: podcasts next week with either Fish Stripe staffers or maybe 726 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,799 Speaker 1: even some special guests from outside the website, so stay 727 00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: tuned for that. I always eager to answer your questions 728 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 1: either here on the pod or on the website, or 729 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,480 Speaker 1: on social media at fish Stripes on Twitter and on 730 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,960 Speaker 1: Instagram and on Facebook. You can find me personally on 731 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,320 Speaker 1: Twitter at real Eli e l Y. So excited to 732 00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 1: recording consistent pods for you the rest of this offseason one. 733 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:39,320 Speaker 1: You know, there's hopefully actual material to discuss. So we 734 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: had some good topics coming out of this non tender deadline, 735 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: and it should be even more compelling rumors and possibilities 736 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: for us to explore next week as well. Stay tuned, 737 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,799 Speaker 1: Please subscribe if you don't already, if you have the time, 738 00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 1: rate and review the pod as well. We appreciate all 739 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:19,440 Speaker 1: of that. Go Fish