1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Total disaster. That is what we are witnessing take place 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: in this country right now because of out of control 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: government spending, inflation, and people that are just stopping even 4 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: looking for a job. Now, there are numbers out that 5 00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: are telling us just how bad things are, and I 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: want you to understand exactly what the left will tell 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: you and what Democrats are going to say to make 8 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: this sound better. All right now, before I get into 9 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: all these details about what's happening in the economy, these 10 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: shocking job numbers, in a moment, want to give your 11 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,599 Speaker 1: heads up. We're going to be joined by former presidential candidate, 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: former Senator Rick Santorum, because he is now put together 13 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: an incredible agenda to actually reign in Congress, and Congress 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: if we decide to do this at the state level, 15 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: cannot stop us. This is how we stop the insane 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,560 Speaker 1: government spending of the Republicans as much as the Democrats 17 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,319 Speaker 1: are doing right now trying to bankrupt this country. So 18 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: make sure that you share this podcast right now with 19 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 1: your family and friends at the little forward button and 20 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: share it on social media, because you're gonna want to 21 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: hear this game plan that Rick Santorum is focused on 22 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,040 Speaker 1: right Now it's something that my good friend Mark Levin 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: has also been talking about, and it's a way to 24 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 1: use the Constitution Article five for us to actually we'll 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 1: fight back in an incredible way. And he's going to 26 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: give us the blueprint for this. You're gonna want to 27 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: take notes. Coming up in a moment, he will join us. 28 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: But before we do that, I've got to get these 29 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: updates for you on where we are with this economy. 30 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 1: The US economy added just two hundred and ten thousand 31 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:35,400 Speaker 1: jobs in November. Now, this is normally a month that 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: the number of people that are hired skyrockets because you 33 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: need employment for the holidays. How bad this miss expectations 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: buy more than three hundred thousand jobs. How bad is 35 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: Biden inflation? Let me give you this number. Surging fuel 36 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: prices are now hurting poor Americans more than anybody else, 37 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: which we knew was going to happen, all because the 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: Biden administration deliberately and purpose he decided that we were 39 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: going to arbitrarily make the price of gas and oil 40 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: go up so that people would be forcing the submission 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: to buy electric cars and get on the kumbaya bandwagon 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: of global warming. Therefore, we've seen a surge in fuel prices. 43 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: They undid everything Trump did to give us independence, energy, independence, 44 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: and the rest of the world. And now the terrorists 45 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: in the Middle East are making them more money than 46 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: they know what to do with, so they're going to 47 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: fund terrorism. Just so you know. Now, across the US 48 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: over the past year, these fuel prices have skyrocketed. Who 49 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: is that hurting. It is hitting the poorest Americans, the 50 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: most majority of those people actually voted for Joe Biden. 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: These new report that came out and was published today 52 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: the Financial Times set out price rises and they set 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: them out and that have hit the country's biggest parts 54 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: the economy and where it's the drivers, it's everyday motorists. 55 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 1: It's forcing many to overhaul the way they work or 56 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: ditch their jobs entirely because they can't afford to get 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: from point A to point B. This is also hurting 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: companies like Uber and Left, the two biggest rides sharing 59 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: apps out there. And now they're even trying to use 60 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,919 Speaker 1: the burden by encouraging a switch to electric vehicles for 61 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: their drivers. Now, notice this is exactly what the Left 62 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: wants you to do. It's the same exact thing they're 63 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: doing with COVID nineteen. You're going to submit to the 64 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: way that we're telling you must live your life, and 65 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: if you don't, you will become an outcast. We are 66 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: going to have two different class of citizenship in America, 67 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: those that agree with the tyrants and those that don't. 68 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: So this is no different than their game plan that 69 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 1: they're using with COVID nineteen. You're gonna get the vaccine, 70 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: you're gonna get triple vacs, quadruple vacs. You're gonna do 71 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: whatever we tell you to do. You're gonna wear a 72 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: mask even if even if you're triple vacs, because we're 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: totally in control and we're tyrants over you. That's exactly 74 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: what Fauci's doing. It is no different than their energy policy. 75 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: You know, you have an energy secretary that didn't even 76 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 1: know what the consumption of American barrels of oil were 77 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: per day. That's a pretty normal number that you would 78 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: know if you're the energy secretary. Now the question is 79 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 1: why did the Energy secretary not know this two weeks ago? 80 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: Because she doesn't care, because her job is not to 81 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 1: actually have energy independence or low gas prices or to 82 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: help the American consumer. Her job is to implement what 83 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: you just heard from Uber and Lyft, which they're implementing 84 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: from the federal government. They're trying to tell their people 85 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: that are driving their cars, Hey, you need to switch 86 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: to an electric vehicle. Financial times, as many drivers are 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 1: frustrated as the prices are weighing, particularly on the bottom 88 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: end of the income scale, drivers seem to be driving less, 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 1: said Melissa Berry, editor of The Rideshare Guy, an industry blog. Well, 90 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 1: that's exactly what democrats want, right. They want you to 91 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: drive less because they're trying to save the environment, they claim, 92 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 1: which means they have to dictate to you how you 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:49,160 Speaker 1: live your life and force you into changes. I want 94 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 1: to go back to when you had Barack Obama office, 95 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: and he's not the Keystone pipeline. You have an energy 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: secretary then, who actually said on the record at one point, 97 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: we America US do what Europe has done, and we 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: must make a gallon of gas as high as it 99 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: is in Europe to force people into submission so they'll 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: start taking public transportation, ride sharing and electric vehicles. Now, 101 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 1: when that was said back in twenty ten, whenever that 102 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: was all right? Early first first part of Obama's presidency, 103 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: the price of gas per gallon in America was like 104 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: two forty two thirty a gallon, and people were getting mad. 105 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: The price of a gallon of gas in Europe was 106 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: like seven to eight dollars because they selling leaders, so 107 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: a couple of several leaders to make a gallon. You 108 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: get the point, and their price per gallon over there 109 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: was like eight plus dollars. And that was back in 110 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: O eight oh nine. So imagine now what they want 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: gas prices to get to so that you'll be forced 112 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: to do what ubern Lift is telling their clients, right, 113 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: are their workers to do? Go get you an electric vehicle? 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: Suck it up. Now. The fact that Melissa Buried, the 115 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 1: editor of ride share Guiss drivers seem to be driving less. 116 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: That should tell you something as well. It's working. What 117 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: the Left wanting to do is it's working. This change 118 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: in the way the gig economy works in response to 119 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: fuel prices quote has no doubt exacerbated the drivers shortage 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: that Uber and Lyft have been periodically finding themselves in. 121 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: Did you know recently Uber and Lift or having problems 122 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: finding people to drive cars? Why? Because of gas prices? 123 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: The price posts at corner gas stations is killing the 124 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: ride sharing business. They're fine with us. They want you 125 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: to travel less, they want you to ride in fewer cars, 126 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: and they want to control every aspect of your life. Now. 127 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: Retreating the old market over the past week may bring 128 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: down retail petrol prices some, but so far drivers have 129 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: yet to see that price drop be actually passed them 130 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:48,640 Speaker 1: at the pump. It takes a week or two to 131 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: get through the system now to cover extra fuel costs, 132 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: many gig drivers have adopted adapt to what changes, including 133 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,640 Speaker 1: rejecting more customers who are far away. Others are just 134 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: quitting altogether. Quote. Some drivers have been decreasing the amount 135 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 1: of hours that they do. Some drivers have gone looking 136 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: for other jobs. That's what Beth Griffin, a former Uber 137 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 1: and Lyft driver who heads the Boston Independent Drivers Guild, said. 138 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: An online poll conducted this week by The Rideshare Guy 139 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: found ninety one percent of rideshare drivers worry about petrol prices, 140 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: and about half of drivers were driving less. Again, mission accomplished. 141 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: This is music to your ears if you're a tyrant 142 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 1: in the Biden administration. In fact, twelve percent of firm 143 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: they stopped driving entirely as a result of the high 144 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: gas prices. Again, this is exactly what the left wants. 145 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: They are going to celebrate this, this is good news. Now, 146 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: let's go back to the economy here. ABC News had 147 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: it this way when they were talking about the American 148 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: public being forced to try to figure out ways to 149 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 1: not only save money right now, but also the rising 150 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: prices at the pump, from the supermarket to retail stores 151 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: and the stops at the gas pump in between. Americans 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: are keenly aware of rising prices. What's currently driving a 153 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: lot of the increase now are things you've probably been 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: hearing a lot about supply chain glitches, lack of available 155 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: truckers to deliver goods and services, and short of workers 156 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: to produce a lot of those goods and services. There 157 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: it is right, a lot of goods and services. In 158 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: other words, the economy is going to crap and everybody 159 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: knows it. And all of this directly connects back to 160 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the president. Now, Bloomberg said, the job numbers are a 161 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: real surprise, only half of what we actually anticipated. And 162 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 1: the reason why is because there are a lot of 163 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: people that said, screw and I'm just going to stand 164 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 1: the government. Diamond definitely. It's too expensive to try to 165 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: get a job, too expensive to get there, too expensive 166 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 1: drive there, can't afford it, so you just keep sending 167 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: me free money from the taxpayers. A change in non 168 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: farm payrolls comes in only half the level we anticipated 169 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: two hundred and ten thousand. That's a real surprise, and 170 00:08:57,400 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: that is going to cause some head scratching at the FED. 171 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: What do we do about that? I say, exactly what 172 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,959 Speaker 1: the head scratching is it the Fed? They're saying, holy crap, 173 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: people are just saying we're not working anymore. Wall Street 174 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: Journal reporter on MSNBC this morning put it this way, 175 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: what's your gut first reaction to the job stomp them? Well, 176 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: this is a miss. You know. It's economists. As you said, 177 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: we're expecting around five hundred and seventy three thousand jobs. 178 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,319 Speaker 1: We got significantly less than that. I think what you're 179 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: seeing here is what economists have been talking about throughout 180 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:33,359 Speaker 1: the entire pandemic, which is that, you know, the trajectory 181 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: of the economy is really gonna depend on the trajectory 182 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: of the virus and how people are responding to that. Now, 183 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: this is where I have to call BS. This is 184 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: the bailout that the media is going to keep using. 185 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: If the economy is bad for Joe Biden. It's really 186 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: because okay, it's really because quote the pandemic. White House 187 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:58,440 Speaker 1: Press Secretary Jansaki was on set on MSNBC this morning 188 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: and they asked her about the job numbers. She didn't 189 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: want to talk about it, so she deflected by saying, 190 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: this jobs number just crossed two hundred and ten jobs. 191 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Just to add it, so two hundred and ten thousand. 192 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,000 Speaker 1: So if we look at that breaking news right now, 193 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: that's a number that feels a little what a little off? Well, 194 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: I know this sounds a little archaic, but I can't 195 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: comment on them until nine thirty by rules not work 196 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: at Yeah, but there you go, and they all laugh, 197 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,680 Speaker 1: they all laugh. I can't comment on that till nine thirty, 198 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: even though we know exactly what the numbers are. Really, 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 1: So do the American people know what's going on right now? Yes? 200 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 1: And don't blame it on COVID. You can't blame this 201 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 1: on COVID, CNBC. Santelli said, the American public knows what's 202 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: going on. It's Biden inflation. Don't blame this on COVID. 203 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: You've made and done things policies that have made prices skyrocket. 204 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 1: You did this. This has nothing to do with COVID, 205 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: because prices were low with COVID when Trump was the president. 206 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: It's American public knows, they know what's going on. You 207 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: know how many times a week or a month do 208 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: you fill your car up? You know how many times 209 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: do you get the bill for your kids at school, 210 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: whether it's private or college. You know these prices. I 211 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: just had a furnace go out. I was shocked. I 212 00:11:20,160 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 1: was shocked at how much some of this stuff has 213 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: gone up in the last couple of years. This is 214 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: a multi millionaire on CNBC saying he's shocked at how 215 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: bad prices have gotten, how much stuff has gone up 216 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. That should tell you 217 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,319 Speaker 1: everything you want to you need to know. And people 218 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: aren't buying this. You can't blame COVID forever for everything 219 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: when you're the president. I taits American. By the way, 220 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: when you ran, you actually said, you actually said that 221 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: you were gonna fix it all. Ron Brownstein at CNN said, quote, 222 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: inflation is a very clear and present danger for all Democrats. Now, 223 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: I hope so I hope people get their heads other 224 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 1: ear end and realize just how bad things are. So 225 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: the question now becomes, what do we do in states 226 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: to fight back? How do we fight back against this 227 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: insane spending that's going on. We had another stop gap 228 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:16,560 Speaker 1: bill filled with port Beryl's spending that took place where 229 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: we won't have a government shut down, and there's tons 230 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 1: of crap in there that have nothing to do with 231 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: anything that's going to benefit you or me. Port Beryl 232 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:27,559 Speaker 1: spending their whoring out. The government right now is being 233 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: hoard out by these old men and the Republican and 234 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: the Democratic side who say, I'm not gonna have to 235 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: pay for this disaster. I'll be dead when hell comes 236 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: and when there's hell to pay for all of this. 237 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: And they're just spending money because they know they'll be 238 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: dead before they have to pay it back. How do 239 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: we stop them? Joining me to talk about this, Like 240 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 1: I said, as former US Senator and former President kenned 241 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 1: Rick Sentorium senator, we were talking this week a conversation 242 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: that was started very organically about what's going on the 243 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court and with abortion and what looks to be 244 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: a significant victory for protecting life and I literally said 245 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: to you. I was like, all right, tell me everything 246 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: you're doing now, and you said, I'm working on something 247 00:13:14,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: and I'm working hard because I think there's a real 248 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: chance that we can have victories when it comes to 249 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,679 Speaker 1: states being able to fight back against the government in 250 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,800 Speaker 1: DC and the extreme overreach is taking place. And you 251 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: actually said we're very close. I said, all right, hold on, 252 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 1: I gotta get you on the podcast because I wanted 253 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: to talk to you about how this is working. So 254 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: if you'll lay it out, and I say this, everybody listening, 255 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: Number one, share this. If you get to hear this, 256 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: share it. Okay, share it with your family, Share it 257 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: with your friends. Grab a pencil and paper, and start 258 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 1: taking notes right now because you're gonna want to otherwise 259 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna go, oh my gosh, I miss that. And 260 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: good news as you can rewind and go back in 261 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: the podcast and listen again, but make sure you share this. 262 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: So how did you even get involved in how did 263 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 1: this get started? What you're doing now? Well, first off, 264 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: thanks Ben, thanks for the opportunity. And I'm excited about 265 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: this because I think that everyone knows that Washington is broken. 266 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: Everyone knows that it has accumulated power. It is. The 267 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: foundational structure of our government has been shifted over the 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: past really a hundred years by the Supreme Court who 269 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: has basically reinterpreted, as we see in ro versus Way, 270 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: reinterpreted the Constitution to mean whatever it wants, and so 271 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: doing has dramatically expanded the power of the federal government. 272 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: You know, the commerce clause, for example, now means the 273 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: federal government can basically do anything. And that's not the 274 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: way our country was set up. That's not what made 275 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 1: our country great. It's not how our federal federal system 276 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: of government was designed to work and has worked so well. 277 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: And it's the reason we see the division in our 278 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: because the federal government is now trying to make every 279 00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: American from someone living in rural Montana to someone living 280 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: in New York City, played by the same rules. You've got, 281 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: everything has to be the same. Everything's guided out of Washington, 282 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 1: and our founders understood that people living in different places 283 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: with different values, if we were going to live together, 284 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: we had to have the freedom to live our lives 285 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the way we want to live in as much, you know, 286 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: within certain broad structures, but to give flexibility between the 287 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: states and between localities, you know, for differences, and that 288 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: we could have certain shared values that unite us, but 289 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 1: there would be other things that wouldn't. And that's why, 290 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: for example, you see people moving from California to Texas 291 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: or moving from New York to Florida because they they 292 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: understand that there are differences, but the federal government, the left, 293 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 1: the progressives over time have tried to minimize those difference 294 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: and impose their values on the country. And so when 295 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: people come to me and say, you know, what can 296 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: we do about it? I say, well, you know, we 297 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: need structural reform. We can't just you know, expect Washington 298 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: and Congress when we happen to get power maybe again someday, 299 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: to fix it. Because you know what, every time we've 300 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: gotten power, we haven't fixed you know, Ronald Reagan was 301 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: a great president. We had majorities in the House and Senate. 302 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 1: We didn't fix it. You know, George W. Bush the 303 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: same thing, had majority, we didn't fix it. Donald Trump, 304 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: we didn't fix it. And when you're talking about fixing it, 305 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: we're talking about basic things like for example, Republicans have 306 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: run you've you've seen this when you were running right 307 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: repeal Obamacare, we don't do it, or they say things 308 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: like we need to balance budget amendment, and they never 309 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: do it when they have the opportunity to do it. 310 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: And now look at where our deficit is exactly, and 311 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: look at where the concentration of power is. It's now 312 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: almost all in the executive. The Congress is feckless, they 313 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,600 Speaker 1: can't do anything, and the courts simply, you know, step 314 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: aside and let frankly, now both parties sort of get 315 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: away with with doing whatever they want out of the 316 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: out of the presidency. And here's why I came to 317 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: this moment is when I and look, I supported every 318 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: almost everything Donald Trump did. I mean, there are a 319 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: couple of minor things, but by and large I thought 320 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: he did a great job. But a lot of what 321 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: he did he did out of the executive orders and 322 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: rules and things, and and we cheered along and said, yeah, 323 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, let's do it. Let's stick it to them. 324 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: And we said, well, wait a minute, you know, the 325 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: constitution doesn't allow him to do some of this these things. 326 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: And we're now of the have gone I think almost 327 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: as bad as the other side, which is, if we 328 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: get power, we're going to force our agenda and we're 329 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: going to ignore the Constitution and let the president do everything. 330 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: That's just not a good idea. And well, and it 331 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,400 Speaker 1: also president, as you know, is everything. If you do something, 332 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: then the other side feels validated in doing it again, 333 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: and then you fast forward ten years and it's totally 334 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: out of control. It's the same conversation that we were 335 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 1: having about court packing recently, where are like, well, fine, 336 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 1: if they packed the court, referring to when we'll just 337 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: pack the court back again, and then before you know, 338 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: we got fifty Supreme Court justices. Yeah, wrong, and and 339 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: so so the question is structural, how do we do it? 340 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: And and and here's the here's the great thing to 341 00:18:13,359 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: the constitutionalists out there, people who love our constitution. The 342 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,919 Speaker 1: constitution provides a way for us to fix this. And 343 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 1: people say, oh, I love the Constrent, I love you know, 344 00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, the First Amendment. Uh, well you also 345 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,679 Speaker 1: should love Article five because Article five was in the 346 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: original constitutions, not an amendment. It's part of the original Constitution. 347 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: And it's a it's a provision that says, here's how 348 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: we can amend the Constitution going forward. And and and 349 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: there's two ways. One is the way it's always been done, 350 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,719 Speaker 1: which and by the way, let me hit pause itive 351 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: real quick, because you may have heard a lot about 352 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,359 Speaker 1: Article five if you listen to our good friend Mark Levin. 353 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: He has been talking about this for eight for I 354 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 1: would say decades, and there are so many people in 355 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: politics that said, no, no no, no, I'm not going to 356 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,600 Speaker 1: have to waste my time legal and waste my time 357 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: with you article five. I'm just going to win an election, 358 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: get elected, and then and then basically do nothing, which 359 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: is what you were just referencing. And the reason why 360 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: Article five, I think now is so important that people 361 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: are paying attention to it is that we're starting to 362 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: see that the only way conservatives are winning on government 363 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: overreach when it comes to COVID nineteen and these mandates 364 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,360 Speaker 1: and forcing people to get a vaccine, to keep their 365 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,080 Speaker 1: job and to do certain things, and I call it 366 00:19:29,119 --> 00:19:32,879 Speaker 1: COVID racism. We are witnessing with this administration COVID racism 367 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: where they're trying to make two set different sectors of society, 368 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: two different classes of citizens. And the only way that 369 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: we're winning right now is through actually fighting in the 370 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,199 Speaker 1: legal system with the constitution, which goes back to the 371 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: point that I think you're about to make, which is, 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: forget screwing around in essence with politics for a moment. 373 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: We can totally fundamentally get the game change back to 374 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: what it was supposed to be. We're not We're not 375 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: changing something moving forward, just going back to order. Found 376 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: their wanted and the abuses that have happened over the 377 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: last decade after decade after decade, getting away from the 378 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: Constitution by specifically focusing on Article five. Yeah, using the 379 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 1: constitutional remedy that the founders put in place to fix 380 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,439 Speaker 1: what they thought was going to happen someday. And I 381 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: mentioned the first way to amend the Constitution was for 382 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: Congress to do it. But they realized that at some 383 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: point the federal government was going to get out of control. 384 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: And because it happens in every society, there is the 385 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: concentration of power. People who are in power seek more power, 386 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 1: and that's what's happened. And so they provided a second mechanism, 387 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: and that's for the state legislatures to ament to propose 388 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:48,159 Speaker 1: a Convention of the States, to propose amendments to be 389 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 1: sent to the states for ratifications. So let me just 390 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: sort of walk that back. So the provision in the 391 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,479 Speaker 1: Constitution says that if two thirds of the states, in 392 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: this case thirty four states, legislatures governors have nothing to 393 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 1: do with this. If the legislatures in thirty four states 394 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: pass a resolution, that all of them are the same, 395 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 1: so it's the same resolution. Pass a resolution to call 396 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 1: for a Convention of the States, then automatically it is called. 397 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: Congress has to certify it. But the thirty four states 398 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 1: did it, but they have no role in it other 399 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: than that. So thirty four states have to pass it. Now, 400 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: what is the Convention of the States resolution we're proposing. 401 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: We're proposing three things that there'd be a convention held 402 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: with all fifty states participating. And by the way, the 403 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: states participating would be appointed by the state legislature. Every 404 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: stake gets one vote, so California doesn't get anymore votes. 405 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: In Alaska, every stake gets one vote. And the purpose 406 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,640 Speaker 1: of the convention is to propose amendments that cover three areas. 407 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: Number one, and I think this is the most important 408 00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: to limit the power of the federal government. All right, Rick, 409 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: I want to go back to what you were saying 410 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: a moment ago. I want to go over these three 411 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 1: different ways that we can use Article five that you 412 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,199 Speaker 1: just started in. Let's start all over article five. What 413 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: are the three things that you're trying to accomplish to 414 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: actually get this done. So the resolution that we are 415 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: asking state legislatures to adopt, and fifteen states have adopted 416 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: them so far. We need thirty four. But the resolution 417 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: calls for three types of amendments that will be in order, 418 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: in other words, to be able to be proposed at 419 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: at the Convention of the States that will be called 420 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: if we get thirty four states to pass this resolution. 421 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: One is to limit the power of the federal government. 422 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I think it's the most important because what it says 423 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: is that we can pass amendments that return the power 424 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: to the states and to the people that has been 425 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 1: now userved by the federal government. For example, education, it 426 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: is very clear from the Constitution that education is a 427 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 1: state and local function, but the federal government through that 428 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 1: through you know, the commerce clause or whatever clause the 429 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: Screenport figured out, decided note we can let the federal 430 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: government legislated mandate and tell everybody how to run their schools. 431 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: We can pass an amendment or propose amendment that these 432 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 1: states could ratify that says the federal governments to spend 433 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: no money on primary second education, or can spend no 434 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: money on higher education. Think of what what how how 435 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: higher education has been corrupted because the federal government just 436 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: funnels billions and billions of dollars in there uh to 437 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: and to to prop up what is the ballwork the 438 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: think tank for the left wing in the United States 439 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: of America. So that's one example, but there's a whole 440 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: host of other areas where the federal government has intruded 441 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,239 Speaker 1: on state and local authority and on individual rights that 442 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: you could propose amendments to limit that authority. So that's 443 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,719 Speaker 1: number one. Number two and this is one that's been 444 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: around for a long time, to limit the spending power 445 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: of Washington. Other words of balance. So I really, I 446 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: really want to dive into that for a second because 447 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: number two is I think, actually for my kid's future 448 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: and the future of this country, and where it's just 449 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: seeing that you have being honest, it's a it's a 450 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: Joe's Basically, they're saying, we'll do whatever the hell we 451 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: want to do and spend as much money as we 452 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 1: want to spend to stay in power, and because we 453 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: don't have to pay for this because we're gonna die 454 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: before that. You know what hits the fan the fact 455 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: that we've gone from spending billions to hundreds of billions 456 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: to now trillions of dollars of money that we don't have, 457 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: paying hundreds of billions of dollars in debt on the 458 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: debt that we're borrowing, and giving places like China the 459 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: power over us because of our debt load. Should scare 460 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: the hell out of everybody. Unfortunately, doesn't seem to rick 461 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: because the word trillion, it is impossible to get your 462 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: head around how much money that actually is exactly exactly, Yeah, 463 00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 1: And so this provides an opportunity to put a balanced 464 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,960 Speaker 1: budget amendment before the states. Are tax limitation amendments, you know, 465 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 1: only certain levels of taxation spending limitation. So any type 466 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: of amendment that would would constrain the spending of the 467 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: federal government would be in order to be proposed for 468 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: ratification to the states. And the third is a term 469 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: limit amendment. Now, most of the term amendents you've heard 470 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: of as a term limits on members of Congress. I'm 471 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,360 Speaker 1: someone ambivalent about that. There's some good sides and bad 472 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: sides of it. But this is not just term limits 473 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: of members of Congress, it's term limits of all federal 474 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: efficial So what does that mean. That means potentially justice, 475 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: this is free court or judges, and it also means 476 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: the deep state. You can actually, we can actually propose 477 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: amendments that actually could limit the amount of tenure of 478 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: the deputy assistant Secretary of State or or you know, 479 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: somebody somebody deep within the bowels that we know has 480 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 1: been there and will be there, you know, for ten 481 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 1: presidents and doesn't pay any attention to what the president 482 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: once does what they want to do and has their 483 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,439 Speaker 1: own agenda. And so having the ability to attack the 484 00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:13,360 Speaker 1: deep state by limiting terms of executive branch officers, not 485 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 1: just Congress and judges, I think is a very important 486 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: part of reforming Washington, DC. You mentioned, you mentioned these things, 487 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: and let's just look at applying them today. You know, 488 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,399 Speaker 1: the House Republicans are divided on the purpose of a 489 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,800 Speaker 1: vaccination database bill, and the question was asked, which is it? 490 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:37,880 Speaker 1: Burgess asked us, will this ensure that information remains confidential 491 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: and kept private. Many believe this is a complete government overreach. 492 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: It's a violation of you know, of your medical records. 493 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,119 Speaker 1: By the federal government. This is a perfect example of 494 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: what you could reign in if we accomplish what you're 495 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,199 Speaker 1: talking about, the same thing where the Senate Republicans just 496 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: cave to help pass a you know, the stop gap 497 00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: funding to avoid a government shutdown, which is just filled 498 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 1: with insane amounts of spending. I mean, it grants seven 499 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 1: billion in funding for the resettlement of Afghan refugees, for example, 500 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: but money's not going directly to Americans and citizens that 501 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: were hurt because of the COVID lockdowns. It makes no sense. Well, 502 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean all of these things. I mean, obviously they've 503 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 1: got a lot of current issues, but you know what 504 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,920 Speaker 1: this will get at is just limiting the power, the scope, 505 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:30,640 Speaker 1: and the concentration of power in individuals in Washington. All 506 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: of these are problems that are reflected by some of 507 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 1: the examples that you're giving right now. So those are 508 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: the three things that this resolution would call for. And again, 509 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,479 Speaker 1: the process how that would work is we get thirty 510 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: four states. You say, wow, thirty four states, you only 511 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: have fifteen, you have nineteen states to go. Here's here's 512 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: the interesting thing that most people don't realize. Thirty one 513 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: of the fifty state legislatures are now controlled by Republicans 514 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 1: in two states are divided. Minnesota and Virginia have one 515 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 1: House Republican, one House Democrat, which we have very confident 516 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: given the twenty two twenty two elections coming up in 517 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty three if in the case of Virginia, 518 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: we have a lot of confidence that we're going to 519 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: flip both of those states, so we'll be at thirty three, 520 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: will be one state short of the thirty four we need. 521 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: And we have several states everywhere from Washington to Maine. 522 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: Those are two of them that if we could flip 523 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,919 Speaker 1: one of about four or five states that are actually 524 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: fairly close right now, closely divided in an election year 525 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: which looks to be a landslide type of election for Republicans, 526 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: we can get the thirty four thirty five states and 527 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, if every Republican legislator in 528 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 1: those states votes to support this. And by the way, 529 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: every progressive group is vehemently against this, George Soros vehemently 530 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: against it, every left wing group is against it, every 531 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 1: conservative group is for this. So there's no reason for 532 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: any Republican moderate to conservative not to support restoring federalism, 533 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: not to support limiting the power of the federal government 534 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: over the individuals and try to make everybody conform to 535 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: what Washington believes as best for everybody. So if we 536 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: can get to thirty four, which I think we can 537 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: either next year or the year after, then all of 538 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: a sudden, the safety on the gun is off and 539 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: we can fire and get this thing done. Not ten 540 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: years from now, but in a year or two. We 541 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: can actually get a convention of the States called under 542 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: these under this resolution that allows for these types of amendments, 543 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: have a convention, and let's have a real great national 544 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: debate as to what we want for the future of 545 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: our country to the power to be invested in Washington 546 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: and the power to be invested states, localities, and individuals. 547 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: All right, let me play pessimist here because I just 548 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: don't trust Republicans for good reasons that are in power. 549 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: Why would somebody in the legislature in these states and 550 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 1: why what would be their logic or their reasoning for 551 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 1: fighting against this, Because you know there's Republicans they have 552 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: either they have you know, the dream of serving in 553 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: Congress where they wouldn't want to be quote term limited 554 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: or not be able to do their port rail spending 555 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: to hook up their buddies. I mean, Republicans sucked just 556 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: as much as Democrats do many times. I know hardcore 557 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: conservatives are in favor of this, but but you know, 558 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: there's going to be some pushback. So what are their 559 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,720 Speaker 1: arguments going to be and how do we prepare for 560 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 1: those on the front end. Yeah, the arguments that I've 561 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: heard so far against them is actually it's interesting, almost 562 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: all the arguments that are used are arguments that were 563 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: put forward in a law review article opposing this, this 564 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: Convention of the States, I think about twenty years at 565 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: the moment, it was maybe as ten years ago. That 566 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: was put together by and you see these arguments and 567 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I and I pull out this law review article and say, oh, 568 00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: by the way, you know who made this argument initially 569 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: Larry Tribe. Now you know who Larry Tribe is. Lawrence 570 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Tribe is an is a progressive law professor who's who's 571 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: been one of the great you know, uh, you know, 572 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: thorns in the sides of of conservatives for for probably 573 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:18,719 Speaker 1: forty years. And so every argument are the arguments the 574 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 1: left makes about it, and for some reason we adopt 575 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: and the other person who's come out and did and 576 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: did a long treatise on this was believe or not 577 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,479 Speaker 1: Justice Warren Burger. Now, most of the people who you 578 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: you are listening to the show, don't know who Justice 579 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Warren Burger is. But Justice Warren Burger was the chief 580 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: Justice of the Supreme Court and was and voted with 581 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: the majority and Row versus Wade. And so this this 582 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: is who conservatives are using to say, Oh, look at 583 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: what these people say could happen, and and the reality 584 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 1: is the things that they're saying. One is that oh well, 585 00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 1: once once the convention is called, all these were opening 586 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: up everything that constant that you know, we could have 587 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: a runaway can mention and all these terrible ideas could 588 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: be put forward. Well, Number one, that there's law. It's 589 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: called the Article five, has court cases and history both 590 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,720 Speaker 1: as states and even before that when we were colonies. 591 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: How conventions of States operate and they are operated under 592 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: the rules of the resolution that calls it. And so 593 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: these are all three of the points that I talked 594 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: about before. Limit the power of the federal government. So 595 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: no amendment that expands the power of the federal government 596 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: would be in order. Number one. But even if let's 597 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: say a convention called by the way, when thirty four 598 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: states are controlled by Republicans, and those thirty four states 599 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: are appointing delegates to that convention. So again, I mean, 600 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: you've got a super majority of Republican legislators who are 601 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: going to be the delegates at this convention. But assuming 602 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: they you know, go crazy and they you know, you know, 603 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 1: disseminate drugs there, and something crazy happens and they ignore 604 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: the law of the Article five and they pass some 605 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: crazy amendment, it still has to go to the states 606 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: and be ratified by thirty eight state legislatures, again, thirty 607 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: four of which are controlled by Republicans. So the idea 608 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,200 Speaker 1: that this is going to be a runaway convention is 609 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: just folly. I mean, the reality is that there is 610 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,720 Speaker 1: an appetite in this country to constrain the power of 611 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: the federal government, and we are providing the only mechanism 612 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: that could in fact do that. And Rick, you go 613 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: through this game plan of how to take back our 614 00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: power and from a state's perspective, takeaway power from the executive, 615 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:43,120 Speaker 1: takeaway power from Washington, be able to do things like 616 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: get our country spending under control. And there's two questions. One, 617 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,000 Speaker 1: no matter where you're listening right now, what do you 618 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: need to do now? How do you get this playbook? 619 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 1: Where do you get the guidance that you're describing. Let's 620 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: deal with that one first, and I want to deal 621 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: with the how do you fight back against Republicans are 622 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna do anything they can to try to screw 623 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 1: this up. Go ahead first with how do we find 624 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: out more? How do we get more information? How do 625 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: we start working on this. It's called Convention of States 626 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: dot com. That's the that's the website. You go to 627 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: Convention State dot com or US on Facebook, your rumble 628 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: LinkedIn everybody, I mean, all these all the social media 629 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: sites were on. So it's Convention of States dot com 630 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 1: and you can you can sign up to volunteer. There's 631 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 1: all sorts of information you can dig into, all of 632 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: the great details, get all the questions answered that uh 633 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: that that you're going to be confronted with by folks 634 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: who are skeptics. Look, you know, I was, I was 635 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: a congressman, I was a senator. Lots of people brought 636 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: really big, great ideas, and the initial thing, if it's 637 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: a big idea, I'm really skeptical that has any chance 638 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: of passing. But I think we're in a unique moment 639 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: in history right now. We're in a unique moment where 640 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: we have It's a really interesting thing. Even though the 641 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: country is very deeply divided when it comes to state legislatures, 642 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 1: Republicans are actually a approaching supermajority control, which means we 643 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: can do things that you know, our constitution was set 644 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: up for supermajorities to make make decisions. We're actually in 645 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: a position way because we have on the preciss of 646 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,919 Speaker 1: being a supermajority to actually start this process. And so 647 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: what that means is people have to get you know, 648 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 1: go to Conventional States dot com, sign up and get 649 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: active in your state. Every state their fifteen states have 650 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: passed it. But even those states are active. Why because 651 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: the people in Texas, for example, which has already passed this, 652 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: or Florida, which has already passed this, actually make calls 653 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,960 Speaker 1: into the states that haven't and do work that help 654 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: help the other states that are in the process of passing, 655 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 1: like Wisconsin, which we expect to vote in January February. 656 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: North Carolina, another state that's passed one house, is waiting 657 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: for the other House to pass Iowa, another state, Pennsylvania. 658 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: I can go down the list. I mean, there's there's 659 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: a lot of states that right now that one house 660 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: has passed or both, they're considering very seriously of doing something. 661 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 1: That is Nebraska another one And this gave is great 662 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: because there's only one house in the Bransco. So there's 663 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 1: no there's not two bodies, there's only one. And so 664 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,719 Speaker 1: those are the states that are I guess teed up 665 00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: for next year. So we can get a few more states, 666 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, in line before the twenty twenty two elections. 667 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 1: And then the second thing is you can get involved politically. 668 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 1: We're going to be working hard in a handful of 669 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: states to flip state legislatures so we can get in 670 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,760 Speaker 1: we can get into position to get to that thirty 671 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,359 Speaker 1: four in the next couple of years. Wow. All right, 672 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,480 Speaker 1: so there's a real chance of this. That's part of 673 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: the reason why you're spending. Yeah, there are five Convention 674 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: of the States has five million people, five million people 675 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: who have who have who support this cause. And literally 676 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: we have volunteers who are designated who are captains in 677 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: every state legislative district in America. Everyone. We have people 678 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: who are working in the in those areas. So this 679 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: is a I was surprised at the length at the 680 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: strength of this organization. There's like some paid, full and 681 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 1: part time people in the organization. We're all over the 682 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: place every single day in American I'm not exaggerating this. 683 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,879 Speaker 1: Every single day in America, we're doing an event. I mean, 684 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: this is this is a This is the conservative grassroots 685 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 1: premier grassroots conservative organization in the country where they are. 686 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 1: They are on fire because they see the potential of this. 687 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,560 Speaker 1: They have a lot of people, as I think you, 688 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,600 Speaker 1: and I was one of them, who was feeling somewhat 689 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,879 Speaker 1: helpless that we could ever steer this ship and turn 690 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 1: it around. And this is the mechanism to do it. 691 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,840 Speaker 1: And look, I'm as skeptical as anybody you'll find in 692 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: politics about these things, but to me, this I see 693 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 1: a path. All right. Now, you know the question I'm 694 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:46,440 Speaker 1: going to ask you. Republicans in Congress are going to 695 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: probably fight this and tell you every reason why you 696 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 1: shouldn't support it, mainly because they're going to be terrified 697 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:55,879 Speaker 1: that they're gonna lose their jobs over this exact. It's 698 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 1: the it's the old bulls it's it's the folks who've 699 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: been around a long long time who who think this, 700 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 1: you know, we can't let those states, you know, tell 701 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: us you know what we can and can't do. This 702 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: is a threat to Washington. I mean, this is a 703 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: serious threat. And I can tell you that there are 704 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: folks in Washington and certainly in the Democratic side, all 705 00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,399 Speaker 1: of them, but even some on the Republican side who 706 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 1: are because I was just at ALEC, which is the 707 00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: American Legislative Exchange Council, which is the conservative state legislators, uh, 708 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 1: you know national group. Uh. And so I just met 709 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 1: yesterday in San Diego with with hundreds of state legislators 710 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,960 Speaker 1: and you know, some of them walking say, you know, 711 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: my senator doesn't support this. I said, yeah, Jay, I'm 712 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:40,720 Speaker 1: not surprised. And that's a Republican senator. Uh and and 713 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: and and I said, well, we're you so I disagree 714 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 1: with them. I said, well great, I said, you know, uh, 715 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, and it's not just because a term limits, 716 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: it's it's because of power. It's because they want to 717 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: be able to spend, they want to be able to 718 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: get involved in every aspect of your life. Even as 719 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: a Republican that's the sad part. We've sort of we've 720 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 1: sort of lost our bearings in Washington, DC. And that's 721 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: why the founders gave the authority of the states people 722 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 1: closer to the people to make this decision and to 723 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 1: curb this power. It's incredible. Senator. Lastly, again one more time. 724 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: If people want to go to the website, they want 725 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 1: to get involved, they want to do this in their state, 726 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: where do they go. Convention of States dot com is 727 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: the website. You can go sign up. Let me assure 728 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,759 Speaker 1: you one of the things I will guarantee you we 729 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: will be in touch. I mean, they are really The 730 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:38,160 Speaker 1: team is terrific. It's it's large, and it's growing, and uh, 731 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 1: you know, one of the one of the things that's 732 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 1: great about this is that people see a path now, 733 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: there's a runaway to get this done, and there's just 734 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: a tremendous amount of exciting right now. We're being able 735 00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: to frankly, we're doing we're being very successful in raising 736 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 1: money right now, and we're building the organization out so 737 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: so joined be a partisan. And by the way, the 738 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,840 Speaker 1: great thing about this organization is we just don't do 739 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: Convention the States, particularly in states that have already passed it. 740 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: These are these people. These these folks are out there 741 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: in the grassroots. Are the ones who are involved in 742 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 1: the school board elections, the fight's transgender policies, and CRT. 743 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: They're the ones who are out there, you know, working 744 00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: in Virginia. We had literally hundreds of people here in 745 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:20,800 Speaker 1: Virginia to not just to help Glenn Young can get elected, 746 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,840 Speaker 1: but to win the delegate races. We picked up the 747 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,520 Speaker 1: House of Delegates here in Virginia and and Convention of 748 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 1: the States. Not the nonprofit side, but we have a 749 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,479 Speaker 1: political arm that that did a lot of the work 750 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,799 Speaker 1: that helped that help that be become a reality. It's 751 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 1: great work. We'll have you back, I'm sure very soon 752 00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,640 Speaker 1: with updates Former Senator Rick Santor and former President You 753 00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:43,640 Speaker 1: can thank you, sir. Always a pleasure chat with you, 754 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: and we'll do it again soon, my pleasure of friend, 755 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,759 Speaker 1: God bless all Right, we'll take a break, we'll come back. 756 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,080 Speaker 1: I'll get some of your reaction to this, anything that 757 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,400 Speaker 1: you just heard that if you missed anything or you 758 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,360 Speaker 1: want to share this with others, it will be in 759 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: our podcasts up tomorrow. So it makes you grab our 760 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: podcast and you can share it that way easily,