1 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bloomberg to Washington, d C, 2 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: Bloomberg to Boston, Bloomberg dwell Under to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: nine to the Country, Channel one, and around the globe 4 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg Radio PLUSAP and Boomberg dot Com. This is 5 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: taking Stock. Coming up on taking Stock. Will be speaking 6 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 1: with Ellen Hughes Cromwick, Chief Economist US Department of Commerce, 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: and shall be telling us all about Janet Yellen's speech 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: and remarks at the Conclave of Federal Reserve Watchers and 9 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,240 Speaker 1: Jackson Hall, Wyoming, site of the Kansas City Federal Reserves 10 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: Annual Symposium. Will also get her comments on Stanley Fisher, 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: vice Chair of the Federal Reserve, his comments on interest rates. Yes, 12 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: Pam are gonna be going to all that and more, 13 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: And of course I was gonna talk a lot to 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: about the the issues that were raised for a low 15 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:02,279 Speaker 1: productivity Connie, what if anything could be done, what could 16 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: be done to get the Fed raising it's rate, getting 17 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 1: off of zero bound and moving ahead. A lot to 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: talk about. We're gonna get right to her, but first 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: to Charlie Pellett. He's back in Bloommick World headquarters. With 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: the bloom big business flash, and I think of Kathleen, 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 1: thank you him watching the numbers for you. We are 22 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:18,679 Speaker 1: seeing a stock market that maybe turning around. Here. We've 23 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: gotten as dak now higher by four points, well off 24 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: our session lows. The SMP five hundred index down two points, 25 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: a drop of one tenth of one percent down, industrials 26 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: down thirty two, a drop there of two tenths of 27 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 1: one percent. So stock slipped back into the three week 28 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: three week old funk after erasing an earlier rally. Those 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: comments from Fed Fed Vice Truman Stanley Fisher boost speculation 30 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: interest rates could rise as soon as next month. Albroad 31 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: Us is the former president of the Richmond Federal Reserve. 32 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 1: He spoke with Bloomberg Television and Radio Today about the 33 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: need for higher rates. I would like to see move up. 34 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: I think if, if, if the data UH justify that, 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: and and the Fed can comfortably do that. I just 36 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: think a higher level of race would be a good 37 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: signal to the public and to the markets that we're 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: beginning to move back to a more normal environment. So 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: I sure hope it could happen. Trading in St. Jude 40 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: Medical shares halted a day after Carson blocked, the renowned 41 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: short seller and founder of research for Muddy Waters take 42 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: announced a short position, and St. Jude Medical denouncing the 43 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 1: security of its cardiac devices. Today St Jude is defending 44 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: of those devices, reinforcing the security devices, saying it has 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: a commitment to commitment to safety. Also refuting Muddy Waters 46 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: device security allegations, says it's not possible for batteries to 47 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: be depleted at a fifty foot range. Now the other 48 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: stories making news, Charlie, Thank you from the Bloomberg Newsroom. 49 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: I Mark Crumpton. This news update is brought to you 50 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: by the Jeep Grand Cherokee, the most awarded suv ever. 51 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: The Grand Cherokee continues to raise the bar with its 52 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: luxurious interior and legendary four by for capability. Drive one 53 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: at your local jeep dealer Today. The Food and Drug 54 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 1: Administration wants all US blood banks to start screening for ZEKA, 55 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: a major expansion intended to protect the nation's blood supply 56 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: from the mosquito born virus. Meantime, Florida Governor Rich Scott 57 00:03:17,440 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: says his state is winning the fight again ZEKEA in 58 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: the Miami Beach area. We haven't had a nude case 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: in Little We almost three weeks now uh down there, 60 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: so that's positive. We have two additional counties we're looking 61 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 1: at um on top of Miami Dade on one is Panellis, 62 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 1: one case in Panellis, one case in Palm Beach, and 63 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: we do thorough investigation. Meantime, US health officials say they 64 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: have the first case of Zekeas spread through sex by 65 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: a man with no symptoms of the disease. Doctors say 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: that's extremely rare. Tensions in the Persian Gulf after US 67 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: warships fired warning shots at Iranian naval vessels this week. 68 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: White House Fronts Secretary Josh Ernest it's unclear exactly what 69 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: the what their intentions were or with their aims might 70 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: have been, but the behavior that we have seen is 71 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: not acceptable. Two congressmen are calling for an investigation into 72 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: the apparent suicide of a former Navy gunner on the 73 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: grounds of the Veterans Affairs Medical Center Hospital on Long Island. 74 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: Peter Cason was found dead of a gunshot wound. On Sunday, 75 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: Global News twenty four hours a day, powered by more 76 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: than twenty six hundred journalists and analysts in more than 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: one hundred twenty countries. I'm more Crumpton. This is Bloomberg, Charlie, 78 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: and we thank you. And one additional headline to pass 79 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: along to the granddaughter of billionaire sum To Redstone has 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: dropped her opposition to a settlement that calls for the 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,799 Speaker 1: ulster of Viacom CEO while resolving disputes over a family trust. 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,599 Speaker 1: Little change now for stocks. The SMP five hundred index 83 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 1: down a point at one seventy one. I'm Charlie Pellett. 84 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: That's of Bloomberg Business Flash. You're listening to Taking Stock 85 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: with Katherine Hasan pim Fox Mine from the Jackson Hall 86 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: Economics and Radio Taking Stock of the Fedder Reservest Annual 87 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: Symposium sponsored by the Kansas City fed here in Jackson Hall. 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: I want to get right to our guests, right, special guest, 89 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 1: who is an attendee at the symposium as I have 90 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: been this year. Fascinating discussions, a lot of high level 91 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: academic papers. But Ellen Hughes Cromwick is just the right 92 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: person to break all of this down for us. She 93 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: is the chief economist at the US Commerce Department, formally 94 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 1: the chief economist of Ford Motors. Ellen, welcome, Thank you 95 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 1: very much. Katherine. Now we know that Jenny Allen has 96 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: opened the doors like Stanley Fisher did to the conditions 97 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: being right for another rate increase. Night other people have 98 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: are weighing in on the debate. I want to get 99 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 1: more broadly and deeply into what is important about what 100 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: we the things that are debated. At the top of 101 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 1: your list, Ellen is is you leave this conference in 102 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: a couple of days, what do you think is most 103 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: important you've learned here? Well, Kathleen, great question. I think 104 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: this morning's sessions provided us with some really good information 105 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: about what's happening in the economy. Chair Yelling gave us 106 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: a great summary indicating cautious optimism about the near term 107 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: outlook for the economy, and I think she really focused 108 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: on the fact that the economy has begun to show 109 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: some signs of resiliency um in in the near term, 110 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: and uh she mentioned a couple of uh facts around that. 111 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: I really urge all the listeners out there to grab 112 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: the text of the speech because it is very well grounded. 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: And I think what we learned over the course of 114 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: the morning is that, uh, there is a substantial amount 115 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: of research that is underway right now to look at 116 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: what is the appropriate monetary policy tool kit for the future. 117 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: We know that we had a conventional tool kit. That 118 00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: tool kit changed measurably during the financial crisis, and UH 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: the Central Bank did provide a substantial new UH interventions 120 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: to help stabilize the economy. And going forward, we need 121 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: a new UH and a well research tool kit. And 122 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: we talked a lot this morning with these UH sessions 123 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: on on a variety of those UH those tools, Ellen Hughes, Chromwick. UH. 124 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: We may get some new tools, but they haven't necessarily 125 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: repealed the concept of the business cycle. We're about seven 126 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: or eight years into an upturn in the business cycle. 127 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Do you foresee a time when the economy will produce 128 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: even more sluggish growth than the most recent one point 129 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: one percent print for GDP PIM the Yeah. The expansion 130 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: we're in the eighth year. This is the fourth longest 131 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: expansion since the mid eighteen hundreds, and it has been 132 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: quite a modest one average anual growth of about two 133 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: point one percent. Expansions don't die of old age. I'm 134 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: sure you've heard that from many of your guests, and 135 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: I think that's quite accurate. We think that, UH, you know, 136 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: we've got good fundamentals, especially in the labor market right now. 137 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: So with the non financial business sector representing about two 138 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: thirds of g d P with the latest data, um, 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, we've got some good prospects here for the 140 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 1: second half well. And in fact, when we spoke to 141 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: Denni's law carterlier today on Blueberrick Television and Radio, we 142 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 1: addressed specifically the question though business investment has been so 143 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: weak quarter upon quarter Ellen, Uh, do you see anything 144 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 1: that is going to turn that around apart from more 145 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 1: aggressive fiscal policy from a government. In fact, with the 146 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: revised GDP data this morning, we saw again a reinforcement 147 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: of that Kathleen, that the investment picture has been weak, 148 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: and we did see as well, you know, a weakening 149 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: off on corporate profits in the data that we're released 150 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: this morning. Clearly we are seeing some compression in profit 151 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: margins in the most recent data, and with the global 152 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: economy still slogging around along, Uh, the impetus for investment 153 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: is just uh not there at this point. Do you 154 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: believe that we are going through a secular change in 155 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: the way that the economy works and that we could 156 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: be stuck in a slow growth mode for quite a 157 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,319 Speaker 1: long time PIM. That's a great question, and I know 158 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: Kathleen mentioned low productivity. That is a very important challenge 159 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: that we all face. Without that stronger productivity, Uh, the 160 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 1: low growth track is is just more probable and in 161 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: current conditions, there's nothing in what we're seeing an incoming 162 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: data that would dispute that at this point. So bottom line, Ellen, 163 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: as as you look ahead to the rest of the 164 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: year early next year, is they're kind of gonna be 165 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 1: strong enough to encourage event sitters at the FED to 166 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: say time to make another Reheck, well, I'll leave that 167 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: to the experts. I think we've got many here and 168 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 1: you'll be interviewing some this afternoon that might like to 169 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: weigh in on that. Suffice to say that with the 170 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: incoming and indicators that we are seeing, and I just 171 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 1: want to get this out because a lot of people 172 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: haven't seen this wholesale inventories coming down, i S ratio 173 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: coming down, so there are some early signs of improvement. 174 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: I want to thank you very much for spending time 175 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: with us. Ellen Hughes Cromwick, Chief Economist, US Department of 176 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,560 Speaker 1: Commerce from Jackson Hall, Wyoming, site of the Federal Reserves. 177 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 1: Annual symposium you're listening to Taking Stock. I'm PIM Fox 178 00:10:55,640 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: My co host Kathleen Hayes, This is Bloomberg coming up. 179 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: Endowments and institutional investors. How do they deal with low 180 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: and negative yields on many of their investments? Will find 181 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: out more next