Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast. He's more prolific at appro
Speaker 1: creating than Daishi. Welcome to another edition of the Around
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan hansis coming to
Speaker 1: you from a city filled with heroes in Bunker's. Yes City.
Speaker 1: We're all on the same time zone, and it's great
Speaker 1: to be alive. Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, Ricky Hollywood. What's
Speaker 1: up boys and girls? I think that's up for debate.
Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest. I think Damnaschek. One thing
Speaker 1: I love about Damna Check's approach to family is that
Speaker 1: he's taking, um, sort of an ancient approach, which is,
Speaker 1: I will, um, you know, create children with multiple people.
Speaker 1: And that's how they did it back then. That's how
Speaker 1: you created towns and kingdoms, and um. You know, we're
Speaker 1: in a we're in a system where we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to do that, um barring major rules. But I think
Speaker 1: I could, I could follow that path if I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Why am I still talking? What is happening? I am
Speaker 1: letting Mark Well, no, I down this island. We're gonna
Speaker 1: cut this for social Dan and I aren't even gonna
Speaker 1: make a follow up coming. Mark's is gonna live with
Speaker 1: with this, there's probably, like I think a lot of
Speaker 1: people are learning that when you put out statements there
Speaker 1: might be more context to give, more information to give
Speaker 1: before you do that. And I'm learning that right here, somebody,
Speaker 1: somebody on the subreddit. Because I know you guys are
Speaker 1: crazy in a good way. I want you to transcribe
Speaker 1: that last monologue monologue from Mark, and then on Monday
Speaker 1: Show we'll read it back. Can I go now with
Speaker 1: one of those videos where it's it's just like all
Speaker 1: the words are printed over you know, it's you know,
Speaker 1: one of those lyrics sort of videos. We'll do it
Speaker 1: up for social it'd be great. Okay, Yes, I'm back
Speaker 1: in California. I was on a plane yesterday. Everything seems
Speaker 1: okay right now, but see how I'm feeling in a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. I was traveling it in this pandemic
Speaker 1: in the at flights, traveling is more surreal than dangerous
Speaker 1: to me anyway. Um, because if you follow the steps
Speaker 1: or just keep a mask on it all time, don't
Speaker 1: drink or eat at the airport, you're gonna be met
Speaker 1: with an airport that is quiet. I would say the
Speaker 1: capacity is probably about of what we've seen uh this
Speaker 1: time last year and then um, you know, getting your
Speaker 1: own row on an airplane. If there's anything that's good
Speaker 1: that's kind of out of covid, uh, it's that the
Speaker 1: airlines are taking one on the chin here because they've
Speaker 1: been banging us for a long time now, um, making
Speaker 1: the seats smaller, the rows tighter, the the rules and
Speaker 1: the regulations more prohibitive, and just flying in my own row.
Speaker 1: The last um two plane trips has been nice. Um.
Speaker 1: I miss Texas. I will be heading back there because
Speaker 1: my family is still there. Um, but I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: here for a week. And uh, ge wait a minute,
Speaker 1: what I mean? I was lacerated on this show when
Speaker 1: I sent my wife and children on a getaway for
Speaker 1: two days. You're now in your house for a week.
Speaker 1: I'll be there in like an hour. I'll wear a mask,
Speaker 1: but I'm the inspiration come back for a week. I
Speaker 1: didn't know you were going back to Texas. Uh. I
Speaker 1: had to come back because you gotta I follow the
Speaker 1: creedile that you gotta check on the house. You can't.
Speaker 1: You can't just leave your house forever. And we've been
Speaker 1: gone several weeks. So I came back make sure the
Speaker 1: thing was still standing. I got a couple of throwback
Speaker 1: podcasts to get to knock Out with Bob Keshtron, to
Speaker 1: do a few shows here, get back on the peloton.
Speaker 1: It's been it's been just a not a very healthy
Speaker 1: living down there in Texas with all the barbecue and drinking,
Speaker 1: uh and no gyms or exercise equipment. So I kind
Speaker 1: of had to just like, is the house secure? Have
Speaker 1: it is it? Is it standing still? Have you done
Speaker 1: a full inspection? It is? But I mean you say that,
Speaker 1: but we live in the middle of Los Angeles. My
Speaker 1: my neighborhood has quite a bit of crime if you
Speaker 1: look at the old logs. So I I was nervous
Speaker 1: about it the entire time I was gone. So I'm
Speaker 1: happy to, you know, flip on some lights, open some doors,
Speaker 1: show the criminal element out there that the old Zeuser
Speaker 1: is back in town and not to come near uh
Speaker 1: the old homestead. Well, I'm half buying it. But I
Speaker 1: am happy for you. I'm gonna choose to be happy
Speaker 1: for you, which was not your approach when I had
Speaker 1: twenty four hours to myself. But way, John, I don't
Speaker 1: like being away from your way. I don't like the
Speaker 1: I could have if I could have pulled the Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: which is when the family goes to Japan, you know,
Speaker 1: sign up for three weeks on your own. I could
Speaker 1: have pulled that because the wife and kids are supposed
Speaker 1: to come back in August, um beginning of August. But
Speaker 1: I can't do that. I can't just stay here without
Speaker 1: them for that long. Um so I already missed my kids.
Speaker 1: To be honest with you, you're very devoted. Greg comments,
Speaker 1: I like that Mark has held on to uh clearly
Speaker 1: held onto this back you know, backfire. He took a
Speaker 1: few weeks. Well, that was absurd. It's why it's absurd
Speaker 1: because it's totally was totally hypocate and it's proven to
Speaker 1: be right here and now, I mean, it's it's crazy.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do have to report. I have to
Speaker 1: report some disappointment on the Gatesville Messenger front. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: what's up. Maybe I'll save that. I'll save that for
Speaker 1: a little later in the show. Coming up on today's show,
Speaker 1: what a tease. Seth Payne, great radio guy down there
Speaker 1: in Houston, is going to be our guest of honor
Speaker 1: when we talk the Houston Texans on the Wheel of Teams. Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys did it on the Graham when I was
Speaker 1: um off on Monday, and uh, the it landed on
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans football club. So we're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the Texans and where they go in without DeAndre Hopkins,
Speaker 1: and we also will have a special guest at the
Speaker 1: end of the show. Um that. I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: But before any of that, let us hit the news.
Speaker 1: Whitney second pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears select Patrick Mahomes's the second. It is
Speaker 1: the second. You know, the internet could be a cruel place.
Speaker 1: That is a obviously a mash up, edited cut in
Speaker 1: which the Chicago Bears select Patrick Mahomes instead of Mitch
Speaker 1: Drabinski in the NFL Draft something that and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you guys obviously got into it extensively on Monday's program.
Speaker 1: Mahomes signing that mega deal with the Chiefs, and this
Speaker 1: stuff is just gonna keep happening to the Bears and
Speaker 1: their fans, who you know, sneaky, tough road it's been
Speaker 1: for them since the Five one of the great teams
Speaker 1: of all time. Some people think the greatest team of
Speaker 1: all time, The Five Bears under Ditka, it isn't. They
Speaker 1: have not a super Bowl since and there's been some
Speaker 1: lean years over those last thirty five years. And now
Speaker 1: every time Mahomes does something great, whether it's a Super
Speaker 1: Bowl or an m v P or the richest contract
Speaker 1: in the history of professional sports, it's always going to
Speaker 1: connect to the Bears, and that sucks. Well, the thing
Speaker 1: that there are teams that you want to be one
Speaker 1: of those teams that were picking ahead of the Chiefs
Speaker 1: where they traded up to and just didn't take a quarterback.
Speaker 1: They're out there and they're not getting flagged the same
Speaker 1: way and they well, we had a team need left
Speaker 1: and right, please, But I mean Leonard four Nette maybe
Speaker 1: is the one guy that's cat much fire the Jaggers
Speaker 1: had Blake Bortles. Heck, look who the Chiefs traded that
Speaker 1: pick too. I know that Josh Allen fans are are
Speaker 1: gonna come after me, but at some point in the
Speaker 1: next decade you might say, well, maybe we shouldn't have
Speaker 1: traded that pick that turned into Patrick Mahomes as a
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's fan. Next. One of the reasons one of
Speaker 1: the reasons the Jets passed on taking a quarterback. They
Speaker 1: took Jamal Adams, who obviously an excellent player. But one
Speaker 1: of the reasons they passed on a quarterback is because
Speaker 1: they were quoted or it was reported that, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we got Christian Hackenburg and Bryce Petty waiting in the wings.
Speaker 1: We don't want to clutter things up too much. So
Speaker 1: obviously it wasn't just the Bears that made a horrendous
Speaker 1: error in judgment, but it was the way the Bears
Speaker 1: did it, trading up to get to the number two pick,
Speaker 1: to then not pick potentially one of the great quarterbacks
Speaker 1: of all time. But we'll see how that all plays out.
Speaker 1: Let's do some news and we'll start with the Sean Jackson,
Speaker 1: who's in the news for not very good reasons at all.
Speaker 1: The Eagles wide receiver Uh said he has no hatred
Speaker 1: towards the Jewish community, and he issued two statements apologizing Uh,
Speaker 1: saying he had a was giving a promise to do
Speaker 1: better after he posted on social media Monday anti Semitic
Speaker 1: messages that he attributed to Adolf Hitler and also expressed
Speaker 1: admiration for the Nation of Islam leader Louis Farkhon. The Eagles.
Speaker 1: On Tuesday, responded by calling Jackson Pope. Jackson's post offensive harmful,
Speaker 1: absolutely appalling, so the team would take the appropriate action.
Speaker 1: And Um, by the way, Jeff Jeffrey Lori and Howie Roseman,
Speaker 1: the team owner and general manager, are Jewish men, and
Speaker 1: they met with Jackson, And at this point it does
Speaker 1: not sound like or seem like Jackson is gonna lose
Speaker 1: his job over this, but he has created a storm
Speaker 1: of his own doing here. Nonetheless, Yeah, I think my
Speaker 1: biggest takeaway from the Eagles reaction was was what you said.
Speaker 1: They're not gonna get rid of him. They they indicated
Speaker 1: they've talked to him about being a positive voice of
Speaker 1: inclusion moving forward, that they want him to do some
Speaker 1: things promoting equality, which would indicate the even no risk
Speaker 1: of losing his job. It's possible they could find him.
Speaker 1: I don't know. They they have set a precedent here
Speaker 1: that many people have pointed out. UM, you know, after
Speaker 1: Riley Cooper was caught, you know, on on video using
Speaker 1: the N word seven years ago. UM, he stayed with
Speaker 1: the team. He did get a team fine at the time.
Speaker 1: Um eventually signed another contract with the Eagles, and Deshan Jackson,
Speaker 1: obviously a valuable player, he has guaranteed money this year.
Speaker 1: Doesn't look like getting rid of the Shawan Jackson um
Speaker 1: was ever a serious, you know consideration. But you know,
Speaker 1: you you're never in a in a good spot when
Speaker 1: you're when your apology uh starts with I probably should
Speaker 1: have never posted anything that Hitler did because Hitler was
Speaker 1: a bad person. And I know that. I mean, the
Speaker 1: probably in that statement was a little much for me,
Speaker 1: But um, what can you do if you're take incredible
Speaker 1: ignorance and he's he's paying some public backlash for it,
Speaker 1: And that's just how these things go these days. If
Speaker 1: if you're attempting to make a point about society and
Speaker 1: you choose to lean on a quote, an erroneous quote
Speaker 1: by the way, from Hitler, who was probably perhaps the
Speaker 1: most evil man and human civilization over the last say
Speaker 1: two hundred years, well yeah, you're pretty good there, de Sean.
Speaker 1: You messed up pretty good. And and we'll see u
Speaker 1: if this is something that that blows over. But I
Speaker 1: think this is when things get tricky in sports mark
Speaker 1: where the Eagles need to Sean Jackson and they do
Speaker 1: not have a very deep wide receiver group. We saw
Speaker 1: how the lack of weapons. When Jackson went out, when
Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey went out last year, how that led
Speaker 1: to a lot of issues for the Eagles scoring points.
Speaker 1: If Jackson wasn't was on a deeper roster, I would
Speaker 1: imagine there's a chance he's gone. But the Eagles, they
Speaker 1: they're weighing different things here, not just what he said,
Speaker 1: but also what they need. Well, you know, I'd like
Speaker 1: more information. I'd like to hear what the conversation was
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. UM. And and because as you mentioned,
Speaker 1: I mean Howie Roseman, UM would have a right to
Speaker 1: be very offended by that, UM, Lorie and many other people.
Speaker 1: I think that Jeff Schwartz, who you know, former Giants
Speaker 1: lineman who has its own podcast now, came out very
Speaker 1: strongly he's Jewish, and he said that a lot of
Speaker 1: players in locker rooms, UM don't know anything about judaism.
Speaker 1: That it's um where you know, you look at the
Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter movement, there is obviously UM an embedded
Speaker 1: footprint in the league. And uh, it's the league and
Speaker 1: the players have a chance to be uh a very
Speaker 1: important mouthpiece to that. But in this case, UM, I
Speaker 1: thought it fell largely. I mean, certainly it was rightly criticized,
Speaker 1: but the reaction was UM pretty miniscule on that front.
Speaker 1: I think more people concerned about whether he keep his
Speaker 1: roster spot and and the money tied to it, what
Speaker 1: he's bringing up and who it affects, UM didn't have
Speaker 1: the same I guess maybe atomic impact that it should have.
Speaker 1: And I agree with Jeff Sports that it's it's a
Speaker 1: cultural um mystery in many locker rooms. To many people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a blind spot. And I think if you want,
Speaker 1: you know, the people trying to give him somewhat of
Speaker 1: a pass is like, well, he's just ignorant, you know,
Speaker 1: But that's that's not giving to Sean Jackson enough credit.
Speaker 1: You know. It was from he's been watching a lot
Speaker 1: of Louis faircon apparently, and that is on Instagram Live.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, you're you're a grown man in your thirties.
Speaker 1: Ignorance at this level UM about Adolf Hitler and anything
Speaker 1: like it is is not really an excuse. But but
Speaker 1: they move on. You know, they're not gonna do anything
Speaker 1: about it, all right, moving on? All right, it's stuck.
Speaker 1: A little update. As we get closer and closer to
Speaker 1: the start of or the scheduled start of training camp July.
Speaker 1: And there's the business aspect of what's going on here
Speaker 1: with COVID nineteen. UM. We saw how it like ripped
Speaker 1: up baseball, the union and the league fighting it out
Speaker 1: over money, and in a lot of ways, the NFL
Speaker 1: it feels like they were they really were gifted by
Speaker 1: the timing of their season UM where they didn't feel
Speaker 1: like they were affected directly the way it was just
Speaker 1: just rampaging through all the other professional sports. But now
Speaker 1: the bills come and do because the NFL is coming
Speaker 1: back and there are no solutions for COVID nineteen NFL works.
Speaker 1: Tom Pelisero reports the league has proposed that thirty of
Speaker 1: two thousand twenty player salaries be held in escrow, which
Speaker 1: would be a means for the league and owners to
Speaker 1: handle the fallout financially of um, what's to come this
Speaker 1: season and who knows if there will be a season.
Speaker 1: Obviously this is the Unions involved, Greg and this is
Speaker 1: not going to be met very well at all. I'd
Speaker 1: imagine no, and a bunch of players quickly, you know,
Speaker 1: made it clear that there was a non starter. And
Speaker 1: Tom Peliserro's analysis essentially was that this this was something
Speaker 1: maybe they were floating or trying for, you know, and
Speaker 1: and it was never gonna was never really gonna fly.
Speaker 1: I think just the story getting out there is is
Speaker 1: somewhat interesting, just because I'm not overly interested in like
Speaker 1: the play by play of how all of this stuff
Speaker 1: ends up getting settled. To me, like the fact that
Speaker 1: they threw this out there apparently in negotiating. Just tell
Speaker 1: me when you decide things, and because even those things
Speaker 1: that you decide are going to be written in pencil
Speaker 1: and you might have to a race and and keep
Speaker 1: changing things as you go. I just think this is
Speaker 1: the start. As you mentioned, like baseball and basketball, they've
Speaker 1: had their own issues between the players and the owners
Speaker 1: that now because camp is getting closer, we're gonna start
Speaker 1: seeing it come to the forefront. And there's been a
Speaker 1: bunch of news the last few days. J C. Tread
Speaker 1: Or the NFL p a UH chief spoke and you know,
Speaker 1: and and really emphasize how they want to make sure
Speaker 1: it's safe for the players. And we talked on Monday
Speaker 1: a little bit about how the players don't want to
Speaker 1: play the preseason and that's one of the things that's
Speaker 1: gonna go back and forth, And I just think right now,
Speaker 1: with all of these conversations, I'm not gonna get too
Speaker 1: wrapped up in in like the back and forth because Okay,
Speaker 1: they maybe they will decide on two preseason games and
Speaker 1: then in a couple of weeks still after adjust because
Speaker 1: the country is not allowing them to play two preseason games, like, well,
Speaker 1: we'll wait and see. I I think they'll be able
Speaker 1: to figure it out. It doesn't seem like, um, like
Speaker 1: any of these issues are are gonna be, you know,
Speaker 1: ones that you can't overcome from from a players in
Speaker 1: the ownership perspective, I think you're right. It's it's definitely
Speaker 1: it feels like, um a wait and see. Twice every
Speaker 1: twenty four hours, we're getting new nuggets. The story is changing.
Speaker 1: And the whole concept that the NFL was in this
Speaker 1: um sweet spot. I mean it certainly was in the
Speaker 1: sense that baseball in the NBA had their regular seasons
Speaker 1: like completely jacked up at a time when I think,
Speaker 1: you know, you look back, two NBA players caught coronavirus
Speaker 1: and they just shut the whole thing down. Now the
Speaker 1: m O is, how do we live with this and
Speaker 1: still have sports? And there is no sweet spot anymore
Speaker 1: in the NFL. People can ask why didn't they figure
Speaker 1: out es, grow and money all this stuff before, Because
Speaker 1: I think that there was um when we started these
Speaker 1: bunker casts and inherent optimism that we would get out
Speaker 1: of this at some point that probably by September with
Speaker 1: what we were hearing, that we'd be on better footing.
Speaker 1: And that's just not the case. And we had like
Speaker 1: almost every like almost every industrialized, you know, country in
Speaker 1: the world, you know, So it really wasn't that crazy
Speaker 1: of a thought that the case load would be so
Speaker 1: low in the country at this point that it would
Speaker 1: be manageable. But because it's not, then the leagues are
Speaker 1: in a tough spot. And because our country specifically, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people We've mentioned this every
Speaker 1: time we do a Corona update. If you're living in
Speaker 1: you know, somewhere way out there where you where Corona
Speaker 1: has died down because your country handle it well and
Speaker 1: you're you're wondering what's going on in the States, or
Speaker 1: you're not checking it out like we are. Country is
Speaker 1: not handling it well. We couldn't be more divided. We've
Speaker 1: turned it into a totally politicized situation. And it's a
Speaker 1: very confusing time because there's no indication that the coronavirus
Speaker 1: is going to ease at all. There to your point
Speaker 1: other pronged aspects of this that they've now talked about
Speaker 1: players um having an avenue like in other sports, to
Speaker 1: opt out of the season. UM. And at the same time,
Speaker 1: you've got people on Twitter debating about where to draft
Speaker 1: Duke Duke Johnson. I mean, it's a totally whacked up
Speaker 1: It's it's it depends on what viewpoint you look through,
Speaker 1: but um, I couldn't be more confused with where we'll
Speaker 1: be three weeks from now. I'm done trying to figure
Speaker 1: it out at this point, and I think the league
Speaker 1: is trying to and J. C. Treader mentioned this and
Speaker 1: others have to fit uh coronavirus into the NFL's plans,
Speaker 1: and it's the other way around. You're not controlling this
Speaker 1: at this point, and I you know, they probably don't
Speaker 1: want us to say things like that, but you are
Speaker 1: not controlling this, and it controls the NFL. We'll see
Speaker 1: where we are a month from now. In that same
Speaker 1: vein Stefon Diggs, who is one of the more well
Speaker 1: known wide receivers in the league spoke out on the topic,
Speaker 1: Um sharing his feelings. I love football with all of me,
Speaker 1: but there's so many unanswered questions with this upcoming season.
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I was comfortable starting
Speaker 1: back up. I've been training my butt off, just trying
Speaker 1: to stay ready and stay prepared. And also, as you
Speaker 1: had said, Mark, in baseball, which is scheduled to start
Speaker 1: in less than three weeks, there have been multiple high
Speaker 1: profile players that have opted out because that was part
Speaker 1: of the agreement between the union and baseball during those
Speaker 1: messy mostly failed negotiations. And uh, we're talking big name guys,
Speaker 1: frontline starters, everyday players. If that starts out happening in
Speaker 1: the NFL, that's gonna become a bigger and bigg story.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I imagine it will happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL. If it's happening we're seeing with the We're
Speaker 1: seeing it, uh in the NBA as well, players opting
Speaker 1: out of the Bubble playoffs down in Orlando, It's gonna
Speaker 1: happen in the NFL as well. Um, And uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and that would be it's almost best case scenario where
Speaker 1: the NFL is dealing with losing stars that have decided
Speaker 1: they need to protect their own safety because the alternative
Speaker 1: is that that they just can't get off the ground
Speaker 1: at all. And there's people testing positive left and right,
Speaker 1: and they have to bring the whole thing to a
Speaker 1: screeching halt, and then all bets are off in terms
Speaker 1: of the future of football and what's going on in
Speaker 1: the sporting world. So we're all the same page with this.
Speaker 1: It is confusing. The early tone is the the NFL
Speaker 1: p A is taking a very strong stance. I mean
Speaker 1: we there was there were whispers, Oh, we're working well
Speaker 1: behind the scenes, We've got X, Y and Z figured out. Um.
Speaker 1: Not the case. These players and all these leagues are
Speaker 1: more empowered than they've ever been there more Um, they're
Speaker 1: reading the same news stories that we're reading. They have
Speaker 1: extended families and the same concerns that we have. Why
Speaker 1: should they be treated differently? And even whenever you tweet
Speaker 1: about this and the players, you immediately get hit with, well,
Speaker 1: I work at this store and they're making me go back. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm not disagreeing with the fact that anyone should be
Speaker 1: forced to go work in a situation they don't want
Speaker 1: to be. But these players and j C. Treader. I thought,
Speaker 1: if you go on to go read as two letters
Speaker 1: over the past two weeks outlines why that's simply not
Speaker 1: the case. That this is an entertainment industry that generates billions.
Speaker 1: The NFL is potentially could potentially lose four billion dollars
Speaker 1: that would have impact on every team, every player, US,
Speaker 1: everyone that covers the sport, and the money is at
Speaker 1: the heart of this. If it were if if you
Speaker 1: had no money attached to this, who would be pushing
Speaker 1: these players back in this? We're beyond the America needs baseball.
Speaker 1: America needs basketball at this point, I am personally maybe
Speaker 1: others just simply want to sit on their couch and
Speaker 1: watch sports while the rest of society is melting down.
Speaker 1: But um, it's much more complex than just having a
Speaker 1: dive version right now. Well, the thing that's happening now
Speaker 1: with with getting close to the season is now teams
Speaker 1: are having to take real steps and this is only
Speaker 1: gonna increase and so quickly. I did think it was
Speaker 1: um important to see what the Ravens sent out today,
Speaker 1: which was a you don't have to pick up your
Speaker 1: season tickets at all. Um, that they're just gonna be pushed.
Speaker 1: I mean everyone's most teams have given their fans the
Speaker 1: option to do that, but the Ravens are just pushing
Speaker 1: all season tickets to next year, just sort of forget
Speaker 1: about them. And they recognized in in a statement to
Speaker 1: their fans, in the best case scenario, they even put
Speaker 1: a number on it, they have fourteen thousand people in
Speaker 1: the stadium, and they said in the statement they recognize
Speaker 1: that there might not be any fans in the stadium,
Speaker 1: so it's not fair to have season tickets. So that's
Speaker 1: the first team sort of taking this step of like
Speaker 1: there's no chance we're gonna have even a half filled stadium.
Speaker 1: And and the timing of everything is really interesting because,
Speaker 1: okay that the teams that are doing camps in New Jersey,
Speaker 1: in New York, those places have two week quarantines. If
Speaker 1: you're coming from California in different places like that, well,
Speaker 1: camp starting in two weeks, like that's now like that,
Speaker 1: like traveling around the country, that's all part of it too.
Speaker 1: So the time is now of where teams are going
Speaker 1: to have to start making decisions, which is really tough
Speaker 1: because especially in Texas and California and in some other
Speaker 1: places where there's NFL teams in Florida. You know that
Speaker 1: it's going out of control. In more traditional football news,
Speaker 1: the Titans have been kicking at tires on Jadeveon Clowney
Speaker 1: for some time, it sounds like. And the pass rusher,
Speaker 1: who's still, of course, a free agent, was the subject
Speaker 1: of a conversation between Paul KUCHARSKWS covered the Titans down
Speaker 1: there Forever, and um John Robinson, the team's general manager,
Speaker 1: and Robinson, Hey, he sees what he sees the videos
Speaker 1: being posted of Clowney. He looks good, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: mean they're going to give him a multimillion dollar contract
Speaker 1: without meeting with him first. Um, here's what he said,
Speaker 1: what I've seen on Twitter him rushing off the edge
Speaker 1: and hitting that bag. Anytime you're dealing with whatever the
Speaker 1: contract is going to command, you want to make sure
Speaker 1: that the player is healthy, that you were able to
Speaker 1: allow your doctors to see him, to look at it,
Speaker 1: to make sure everything is going to be good. Mhm.
Speaker 1: We tried to send this story into the sun on
Speaker 1: our broadcast on our TV show, I guess, but it's
Speaker 1: slipping through the cracks of Clowney. I guess we know
Speaker 1: where he's not going though, which is the Browns. Um
Speaker 1: that that was one takeaway I had this week with
Speaker 1: Olivia vernon signing a restructured contract basically a pay cut.
Speaker 1: They're really nice now. They never call him pay cuts anymore.
Speaker 1: They just call him, oh, they signed a new contract. No,
Speaker 1: well he took a huge pay cut. The Browns are
Speaker 1: gonna still a haircut to me, right, all right, He's
Speaker 1: not going to the Browns. And people seem to think
Speaker 1: the longer this goes on, the more likely it is
Speaker 1: he just stays with Seattle because there is definitely a
Speaker 1: level of interest. They've offered him a contract, and there's
Speaker 1: familiarity and with this crazy off season stuff that that
Speaker 1: could go a long way. I mean, the only thing
Speaker 1: to your point, Greg, that you know it's the time
Speaker 1: is now for players to get to places, and um,
Speaker 1: it seems like if you want to see clowning, if
Speaker 1: Clowney wants to be seen, that you're not waiting another
Speaker 1: three weeks on this. That. Yeah, he sort of sat
Speaker 1: out off seasons before a little bit in terms of
Speaker 1: like being careful about his injuries. I believe last year
Speaker 1: he sort of just practiced a few weeks and then
Speaker 1: he got ready to go. By the way, Olivia Vernon
Speaker 1: had a nice season last year. I think it's just
Speaker 1: like the fact that he was dangled his trade bait
Speaker 1: and everyone's little columns all on a lot of little columns. Well, no,
Speaker 1: because it's like, now we're at the point this is
Speaker 1: normally when we were getting real news and real information,
Speaker 1: and some of the stuff that we're generating feels like,
Speaker 1: didn't I just write this three weeks ago, or for
Speaker 1: the third time this year, it's like, please, all right,
Speaker 1: in uh, I'm glad you got that off your chest.
Speaker 1: In the other duds, the Kansas City Chiefs have a
Speaker 1: head coach, Andy Reid, who's one of the best in
Speaker 1: the sport. He's coming off finally his first super Bowl
Speaker 1: title at sixty two years old. You would think, oh,
Speaker 1: what else does he have to prove? I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy's got a ring, he's got one of the best
Speaker 1: resumes of any coach in the past thirty years. Well,
Speaker 1: he's not ready to quit yet. He spoke with our
Speaker 1: old buddy, Herbie Tiopi, who was around the NFL writer
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and a good dude. Love
Speaker 1: catching up with him whenever we bump into him at
Speaker 1: league events. He spoke with Andy Reid and read, uh,
Speaker 1: if he stays for the duration of this new mega
Speaker 1: deal for Patrick Mahomes, it would take him almost into
Speaker 1: his mid seventies. Is that something he would ever think about?
Speaker 1: And he had this to say in the young seventies. Huh, listen,
Speaker 1: I haven't got to that point mentally where I'm looking.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about retirement. One of the great things about
Speaker 1: this job is when you look forward to coming to
Speaker 1: work and to deal with the players and coaches. I'm
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be around good players and coaches. And
Speaker 1: you know what, Mark, if Patrick Mahomes was my quarterback
Speaker 1: and he was twenty four years old and uh, I'm
Speaker 1: tracked to be one of the greatest of all time,
Speaker 1: I'd feel pretty good about coming to work too. As
Speaker 1: a head coach. I mean, you're Andy Reid. You have
Speaker 1: three losing seasons since wait, you waited this long to
Speaker 1: get a Super Bowl? Why not get three more? Four more?
Speaker 1: I mean here here every player that says, when I
Speaker 1: walk out of that locker room into normal life, Um,
Speaker 1: it's different. You miss it. Andy Reid is sitting at
Speaker 1: the precipice of what could be a legendary run here. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe they don't win any We've seen that happen with
Speaker 1: teams that we've touted endlessly. Twill with Andy Reid though,
Speaker 1: I mean I I trust this coach versus like a
Speaker 1: coach that lucked into a Super Bowl with a great quarterback.
Speaker 1: He is going to make this team different every year. Um.
Speaker 1: He is the most innovative guy out there with now
Speaker 1: with someone not Alex Smith, I mean, coach till you're eighty,
Speaker 1: I mean people are living longer anyways, what is seventy?
Speaker 1: What is getting retired at sixties something or sixty five?
Speaker 1: When you got this sitting in your lap, roll with it.
Speaker 1: He's got a big and he's got to take care
Speaker 1: of himself. Big Andy the coach into his seventies is
Speaker 1: gonna have to watch the way and take care of
Speaker 1: those knees. But I don't see any other reason. The
Speaker 1: guy is the epitome of the football lifer. You go
Speaker 1: all the way back to Monday Night Football in nineteen
Speaker 1: seventy that off repeated clip of him blowing away fellow
Speaker 1: nine year olds in the past Putton Kick Championship. Uh,
Speaker 1: this guy loves he loves ball. He shows it in
Speaker 1: in in the in his play call. I really think
Speaker 1: he has sort of a joy. You don't see it
Speaker 1: on his face all the time, but you can tell.
Speaker 1: You know a lot of coaches they're just running, they're
Speaker 1: running back the old plan, and their plans get a
Speaker 1: little stale, and they say the same speeches. Andy Reid
Speaker 1: comes up with new new plays, a new scheme, new
Speaker 1: wrinkles every year as much as any coach in the league.
Speaker 1: You can tell he's he's like invigorated just being a
Speaker 1: football coach. And then having Mahomes. It's like Mahomes hasn't
Speaker 1: even scratched the surface of what he might do. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's like it is amazing. And the contract, which we
Speaker 1: went over a little but we got more details in between.
Speaker 1: To me, it's very team friendly. Ultimately, to me, Mahomes
Speaker 1: stands out more as a player than this contract will
Speaker 1: um compared to other great quarterbacks. So to me, that's
Speaker 1: that just me. And yeah, they'll they'll sign another contract
Speaker 1: in four or five years. That's just that's just how
Speaker 1: it works. Like they'll sign it halfway through this they'll
Speaker 1: have a little leverage. But man, it's almost all all
Speaker 1: good and no risk in this contract for the Chiefs,
Speaker 1: because it's just like roster bonuses that they have to
Speaker 1: decide as they go, basically a year ahead of time.
Speaker 1: And it's like, Okay, yeah, I'll sign up for Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes every year for the next ten years at a
Speaker 1: pretty good rate. Yeah. I thought the same thing too.
Speaker 1: You wonder how the contract will look in five years.
Speaker 1: But then again, the way contracts are built in the NFL,
Speaker 1: we'll probably at that point the restructured. Anyone it, it
Speaker 1: won't matter. So let's stop getting hung up on it.
Speaker 1: And what's a guaranteed mechanism anyway? I don't care. Stop
Speaker 1: telling me to care. I don't care. All right, that's
Speaker 1: what's happening in the news. It's time to get to
Speaker 1: the wheel. Teams hit it. Ricky wants it from his
Speaker 1: hand shone, and he wants it all for and all
Speaker 1: your construssure off the edges. Pod Billy gets ruddy Downy
Speaker 1: Kenny spells welcome to the tempts, he falls and love,
Speaker 1: saying this is gonna have more than just on coasting
Speaker 1: beings line touchdown Houston Rushing, touchdown Sea. The Houston Texans
Speaker 1: up next. On the Wheel of Teams tenants six. Last
Speaker 1: year a f C South champions won a playoff game
Speaker 1: and then lost the playoff game. Uh oh, yes they lost.
Speaker 1: And to talk about what's happening in Seth Payne Joys
Speaker 1: joins us a sports radio six ten down in Houston,
Speaker 1: also ten years playing four those Texans and the Jaguars,
Speaker 1: and now he joins us on the Around the NFL podcast,
Speaker 1: What's up, Seth? Hey, That that got me psyched up
Speaker 1: for the season. That was a good in That's that
Speaker 1: felt nothing like January in Kansas City. Thank you for that.
Speaker 1: By myself newly energized when they when they were up
Speaker 1: twenty four nothing were you were you thinking like, Wow,
Speaker 1: they really might do this, they really might go to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl? Or did he not run yourself? Oh?
Speaker 1: I let myself go there, I was. I was talking
Speaker 1: all kinds of smack. That was it. Oh we had this.
Speaker 1: I ignored the fact that, you know, I'd never heard
Speaker 1: of half the guys playing in the secondary or or
Speaker 1: the Pat Mahomes has made a business of Pemmos is
Speaker 1: a new Tom Brady right where forever with Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: you'd say, oh, okay, it looks like, there's no possible
Speaker 1: way they're gonna win this game. But let's just wait
Speaker 1: and see into the second half and and lo and
Speaker 1: behold he did it, so so good for good for
Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes well seth Like when you typically the way
Speaker 1: this works is if a team is coming off a
Speaker 1: division title and they had that nice overtime win against
Speaker 1: Buffalo and they had things start off very well against
Speaker 1: the defending champs on the road, you would look at
Speaker 1: the next season as Okay, that was the building block.
Speaker 1: Now we take the next step. But is that the
Speaker 1: vibe right now in Houston? Because, of course, and we
Speaker 1: don't need to dwell on this because it's been covered
Speaker 1: at nausea at this point, the DeAndre Hopkins trade, but
Speaker 1: you have Hopkins out of town. The way that they
Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs really kind of suggests that they're
Speaker 1: not even close to being at that level. Is there
Speaker 1: a level of optimism that this team is ready to
Speaker 1: take the next step? Um? I don't. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I'm sure within NRG Stadium and within Bill O'Brien's you
Speaker 1: know skull, there is, And I think the question just
Speaker 1: becomes it's a tempestuous place it's very it's funny. Uh look,
Speaker 1: I I saw that a couple of you guys followed
Speaker 1: me on Twitter before I came on here, because you're
Speaker 1: doing what good host do and you're trying to look
Speaker 1: for information about any of my recent opinions. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I added you this morning, So guilty has charged. And
Speaker 1: I thought to myself, Man, I I have had nothing
Speaker 1: but fluff on there since I believe it was March
Speaker 1: twentie when I said, all right, that's it. I'm done.
Speaker 1: The DeAndre Hopkins trade has broken me. I'm not tweeting
Speaker 1: about the Hopkins trade anymore. Uh. Three days prior to that,
Speaker 1: on March seventeenth, I had said, fire Bill O'Brien today, wow,
Speaker 1: And uh, look, I have come off from that because,
Speaker 1: for one, it's an it's an idiotic opinion to fire
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien the day that the owner Cal McNair definitely
Speaker 1: signed off on the trade of DeAndre Hopkins. But I
Speaker 1: think that that was that was an emotional blow to
Speaker 1: the fan base. DeAndre Hopkins is one of the guys
Speaker 1: that the team in the fan base has been proud
Speaker 1: of for the last few years. Is one of the
Speaker 1: best wide receivers in the NFL, and and it felt like, Okay,
Speaker 1: this is Bill O'Brien, with his scheming and his master plan.
Speaker 1: He's somehow better and smarter than having DeAndre Hopkins on
Speaker 1: the football team. And one time out of ten in
Speaker 1: the last twenty years that a team is willingly let
Speaker 1: go of a of a top ten wide receiver, the
Speaker 1: offense has been good just one time out of ten
Speaker 1: the next season. It's just it's it's not a recipe
Speaker 1: for success any optimism. And and I've look I've Stockholm
Speaker 1: syndrome to myself into this. I've talked my way back
Speaker 1: into you know, being optimistic about this season. The biggest
Speaker 1: thing is that you've got a ton of speed on
Speaker 1: the field. Brandon Cooks um Randall Cobb, aging though he is,
Speaker 1: is the first actual veteran slot receiver that Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: has had in Houston. And as much as they're trying
Speaker 1: to emulate the New England formula of success, he's done
Speaker 1: it that entire time with Braxton Miller, Kiki Qt all
Speaker 1: these other guys who are just young, raw, ultimately unproductive
Speaker 1: slot receivers. Uh. I think now what Bill O'Brien's vision
Speaker 1: is whether it works out or not, is to have
Speaker 1: speed all over the place. Will Fuller, Kenny Stills, that's
Speaker 1: a lot of speed in the backfield. You've got Duke Johnson,
Speaker 1: You've got David Johnson, who, despite not being anything like
Speaker 1: he wasn't two thousands sixteen, is still fast and slippery
Speaker 1: as a wide as a receiver. So that's that's where
Speaker 1: the optimism comes that Deshaun Watson still has probably the
Speaker 1: the best selection of veteran fast receivers that he's ever had.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you this question and number one
Speaker 1: on I did do a little research on you. My
Speaker 1: my grandparents lived in it. The guy. I see that
Speaker 1: you're a Cornell guy. So I went to a lot
Speaker 1: of Cornell games in the nineties and wonder if I
Speaker 1: ever maybe caught you plane there, probably all over the place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I also noticed that a mark just getting wild at
Speaker 1: the Cornell games in the It was a pretty good scene.
Speaker 1: It was a pretty good scene. But the other thing
Speaker 1: I noticed about Seth we're looking at your some research
Speaker 1: on your Wikipedia pages says that you're descended from a
Speaker 1: long line of farmers outside of Victor, New York. That's
Speaker 1: the first line in your Wikipedia entry, which I find
Speaker 1: um an intriguing way to open up that in the
Speaker 1: in the in the personal section, or literally the opening graph.
Speaker 1: The first thing I saw it says Pain is descended
Speaker 1: from a long line of farmers outside of Victor, New York.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this is the right seth Pain.
Speaker 1: It was, Yeah, it is because if you look at
Speaker 1: his Twitter profile, he was drooling over one of those
Speaker 1: machines that picks up the haystacks or whatever the hell's
Speaker 1: going on out there on farms. I will ask you
Speaker 1: a football question, though, um you. I don't want to
Speaker 1: corner you with that one. But the long line of
Speaker 1: farmer things, that is true. It is a weird thing
Speaker 1: to have is your first line in a Wikipedia page.
Speaker 1: But that's been there for like twenty five years. So
Speaker 1: one of one of my twenty seven cousins in Farmingtoner, Victor,
Speaker 1: New York, has kept that alive, and I've gone in,
Speaker 1: I've had my listeners go in and edit that. Like
Speaker 1: usually before every Super Bowl, I'll have our listeners go
Speaker 1: and turn it into like I'm a five time All Pro,
Speaker 1: three times Super Bowl champion, because that gets you a
Speaker 1: lot of attention, right, on radio road. They just want
Speaker 1: the guys that have to bling and uh yeah so
Speaker 1: I but but I did. I I bought a hay
Speaker 1: bine last week and uh it was a big, first
Speaker 1: actual piece of farm machinery I've ever owned. I'm returning by.
Speaker 1: I don't even what does it do. It's if you're
Speaker 1: in the city, you've got a big building right behind you,
Speaker 1: then this is I'm actually up in my in laws
Speaker 1: hometown of only in New York. So that was that
Speaker 1: was a skyscraper in eighteen seventy three. Um, yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: I come from a family of farmers. What was the
Speaker 1: question mark? Well, then I was just gonna Bill O'Brien topic,
Speaker 1: because you know Bill O'Brien, I mean I I see
Speaker 1: him as a I think it's a good game day coach.
Speaker 1: And for all the Bill O'Brien critique, you know he
Speaker 1: Larry Tunsel for the expensive cost to attached to that,
Speaker 1: he did help that line a lot. You look at
Speaker 1: some of the things that he's done, and I can
Speaker 1: approve of some. I don't I found on others, but
Speaker 1: I do wonder because I think Bill O'Brien also in
Speaker 1: a in a very interesting offseason was one of the
Speaker 1: most outspoken coaches to say I'm gonna kneel with my players.
Speaker 1: He didn't hesitate or wait to see what anyone else
Speaker 1: said inside that locker room. For a guy that stripped
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins out of there, you know, probably caused a
Speaker 1: lot of internal having on a skill of one to
Speaker 1: tend like, how popular is he with Texans players right now?
Speaker 1: Do you think that's a that's a really interesting question
Speaker 1: because I think, you know, even though we were joking
Speaker 1: about it earlier, I think Bill O'Brien is a complex dude.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's very bright, but he's also very
Speaker 1: impulsive at times. You know, multiple times he's benched his
Speaker 1: starting quarterback on the first game of the season. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know he went for it on fourth when
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have, and he didn't go for it on
Speaker 1: fourth when he should have in that Kansas City playoff game.
Speaker 1: I think within the team, I think he's like a
Speaker 1: lot of NFL head coaches. It's that some guys like him.
Speaker 1: Some guys could do without him. Brandon Brooks famously said
Speaker 1: that he didn't want to play football anymore when he
Speaker 1: was playing for the Texans, Deshaun Watson great player too,
Speaker 1: you know, he turned off some great players. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And and sometimes you wonder, Okay, when trades like the
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins trade or the Jeneveon Clowney trade go through,
Speaker 1: how much of that is a calculated general manager decision
Speaker 1: versus a head coach who's acting as a general manager
Speaker 1: and just wants to get rid of a problem as
Speaker 1: fast as possible. So I think that's a complicated question.
Speaker 1: I think the biggest the biggest thing that you have
Speaker 1: to be concerned about is how does Deshaun Watson feel
Speaker 1: about Bill O'Brien. And Deshaun Watson has been very complimentary
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien. He says that that's his guy. He's he
Speaker 1: loves that man. He said, he literally used the word
Speaker 1: loves that man. Um. But I think Deshaun also reportedly
Speaker 1: only wants a three year contract extension. Pat Mahomes wants
Speaker 1: to spend the rest of eternity in Kansas City. Patahomes
Speaker 1: wants to be buried in either Missouri or Kansas whichever
Speaker 1: one you choose. Their Yeah, he signed a ridiculous contract
Speaker 1: that basically gives Kansas City the right to franchise tag
Speaker 1: him for ten consecutive years, and Deshaun's not wanted do that,
Speaker 1: So I think it's very much right now. Of Okay,
Speaker 1: Deshaun right now is good for at least three wins
Speaker 1: over replacement in any given year. You know, he takes
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien from me in a seven and nine coach
Speaker 1: to its ten and six coach at least, and perhaps
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to make a truly genuine long term
Speaker 1: commitment until he really figures out what is Bill O'Brien
Speaker 1: and and Tim Kelly the new offensive coordinator, what can
Speaker 1: they really do for me? I I think the offense
Speaker 1: is going to be fine. That's why I think DeAndre
Speaker 1: was it was a crazy trade, especially because David Johnson
Speaker 1: was a big part of it. But I'm not that
Speaker 1: worried about their receiver corps who who you talked about, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about their passing game because of
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and the receiver carps. I think their offense
Speaker 1: will be good because it's always pretty good even when
Speaker 1: he had case Kdum. Bill O'Brien can cook up a
Speaker 1: pretty good offense. I'm worried about their defense. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the reason they lost the a f c uh,
Speaker 1: you know, playoff game against the Chiefs, And there's I
Speaker 1: look at it and and maybe what is going to
Speaker 1: be better? You know, you you're a defensive lineman, maybe
Speaker 1: if you have a lot the whole season, that obviously
Speaker 1: helps a lot. But I look at the defense and
Speaker 1: the secondaries more or less the same, and I don't
Speaker 1: see a lot of pass rush. You know, they gave
Speaker 1: Merciless a lot of money and he was okay in
Speaker 1: terms of his path. Do you think the defense is
Speaker 1: is gonna be competitive enough too for them to actually
Speaker 1: be a real deal contender? Right? And that's I guess
Speaker 1: competitive enough would be the key phrase, because they weren't
Speaker 1: competitive at all, especially in terms of pass rush. When J. J.
Speaker 1: Watt went down last year, the pass rush really plummeted.
Speaker 1: I think that the key they're one of the big
Speaker 1: keys is gonna be Anthony Weaver at the new defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: And I think Anthony who played in Baltimore for Rex
Speaker 1: ryan Um, who coached in Buffalo with Mike Petton, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to be a bit more creative and
Speaker 1: a bit more aggressive than Romeo Cornell. And if you
Speaker 1: think about some of the things that the Ravens defense,
Speaker 1: which still has a lot of those same elements. You know,
Speaker 1: the Ravens defense is kind of stayed the same. Think
Speaker 1: about the Ravens defense this year where Matt Judon had
Speaker 1: a hell of a year, but a lot of that
Speaker 1: was because they they manufactured one on one's form. They
Speaker 1: figured out ways to get him opportunities. I think that
Speaker 1: Anthony is going to be more creative with that. And
Speaker 1: then you're right though, when it comes to the secondary,
Speaker 1: Bradley Roby showed signs of being like good Radley Roby.
Speaker 1: You know, Bradley Roby has these like ye on again
Speaker 1: offing in years. Um, the secondary has some potential between
Speaker 1: Gary and Conley, Bradley Roby, all these former first rounders
Speaker 1: they brought in. But really I think it's gonna be
Speaker 1: on Anthony Weaver to scheme their way to being a
Speaker 1: more respectable defense. What makes the hay Bonds so important. Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is what you do, Dan and Dan by
Speaker 1: the way, UM, I don't know if you're gonna take
Speaker 1: this as a compliment or an insult. I mean it
Speaker 1: is a genuine compliment. You could be a radio host
Speaker 1: you do a really really good job running point on
Speaker 1: all this stuff, and and and for whatever, for whatever
Speaker 1: it's worth, if if it ever goes south for you
Speaker 1: here or anywhere else, I think you've got a future
Speaker 1: in that. If you be a compliment. Well know what,
Speaker 1: this show is gonna go down probably no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. You know this sports radio, the hot take
Speaker 1: stick and all that stuff, it's not It doesn't always
Speaker 1: have the best reputation. I will and I'll say that
Speaker 1: despite your clear disdain for former athletes in the media.
Speaker 1: Um but I can look past that. And that's not
Speaker 1: a shot. That's not a shot. Um but no, they
Speaker 1: mind mind you cut the hay, then Hey Ray comes
Speaker 1: through and puts it into windrows, and then Hey Balor
Speaker 1: puts it into bails and throws it into a wagon,
Speaker 1: and then off you go. What are you doing? You? Um?
Speaker 1: I was? I bought that. I'm I'm kind of a
Speaker 1: half part time farmer with my father in law, So
Speaker 1: I bought it, and I planned to never actually operate that.
Speaker 1: I'm never doing manual labor again. I'm committed to that.
Speaker 1: Oh I shouldn't have said that. Now I'm gonna get fired. Crap,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the farm. I'm gonna be on
Speaker 1: a farm tomorrow. It feels like something I would hire
Speaker 1: someone to do. I don't think I would be trusted
Speaker 1: with that piece of equipment exactly. That's uh, that's that's
Speaker 1: I plan. He's a man's man. Seth see pain as
Speaker 1: I said, the co host of the morning show on
Speaker 1: Sports Radio six ten. Follow him on Twitter. Seth ce Payne, sir,
Speaker 1: thank you. Good luck in the field. Remember you say
Speaker 1: hydrated that son be brutal this time of year. You
Speaker 1: know that. Yeah, I know nothing about farming, but I
Speaker 1: just send right this time of year down where you are.
Speaker 1: The kalyus is on my hands. Can you see them
Speaker 1: through the computer screen. It's amazing. And Dan, Dan, okay,
Speaker 1: see how I feel bad? That was a genuine compliment.
Speaker 1: I really I like I think you know it was
Speaker 1: that you Did you say that I didn't like athletes
Speaker 1: that were have become analysts or was it our show? No?
Speaker 1: You know what you don't like and I agree with
Speaker 1: you on this. It's it's athletes who think they're funnier
Speaker 1: than they are. Um because they kind of get the
Speaker 1: press corps laughter. So they tell us tramulti joke and
Speaker 1: then they and I feel like, because because you're a
Speaker 1: funny guy, I feel like you kind of get offended.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you'll have a much better joke. You don't get
Speaker 1: to have everything, Like I didn't get the body of
Speaker 1: a Greek god. I didn't get to get rich playing sports.
Speaker 1: You don't get to be funny too, all right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're funnier than those guys. So it's I'm living
Speaker 1: with this this anger inside me that I can't get
Speaker 1: out well. And my takeaways, my takeaways, you don't feel
Speaker 1: that Greg and I belong in radio or maybe even
Speaker 1: in the spots that we're in. I'll be thinking about
Speaker 1: that for the next seven or I knew it circled
Speaker 1: back that way, and I anticipated that coming up, and
Speaker 1: partly because I wanted to be subject to to Sessler's
Speaker 1: kind of can't take chrousness. I'm a big fan of
Speaker 1: this podcast. I was up all night nervous about it
Speaker 1: was like my first game in the NFL that I
Speaker 1: was gonna be on this podcast with you guys. Do
Speaker 1: you ever hear about Randall McDaniel's routine the night before
Speaker 1: the game? Random McDaniel, not the player Randall McDaniel Hall
Speaker 1: of Famer, right, Hall of fame, offensive lineman. He would
Speaker 1: stay up all night drinking coffee. The night before the game.
Speaker 1: He would like drink, like drinking entire pot of coffee,
Speaker 1: then eat a bunch of candy bars, and then go
Speaker 1: wreck shop with a jan Kiss stance that he had
Speaker 1: that didn't make any sense at all, as almost impossibly
Speaker 1: still alive. Randal mccannon driving. All right, so thank you, buddy.
Speaker 1: We really appreciate it. You killed it and we'd love
Speaker 1: to have you on again down the road. Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 1: Thanks guys. There he goes to great seth Pain and
Speaker 1: a great name too. You know, I you're a defensive
Speaker 1: you have to be a defensive lineman. If you're a
Speaker 1: farmer with the last name of Pain, you're down in
Speaker 1: Houston where they had the old House of Pain. I mean,
Speaker 1: he came a little bit along after that, but it
Speaker 1: would have been perfect had he been about ten years younger.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm like falling into my old throwback podcast
Speaker 1: habits when immediately was like no House of Pains from Boston. Anyway.
Speaker 1: All right, before we say goodbye, it's time to welcome
Speaker 1: on one of one of the great people, one of
Speaker 1: the people that we a person that we've missed so
Speaker 1: much during his time away from the show, and uh
Speaker 1: with the great link Westling joining the world. Chris Westling,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Around the NFL podcast. How the
Speaker 1: hell are you pal? It is great to see you, guys.
Speaker 1: I forgot what you looked like it we look better
Speaker 1: or worse than you? Better? Shocking, sucking you all look better.
Speaker 1: Dan's got something to blow, some kind of tan. Greg's
Speaker 1: got this jawline thing going on and trapped muscles that
Speaker 1: I don't remember. And Mark looks about ten years younger.
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Wow, buttering us up? West? What is
Speaker 1: going on with the trap us here? What? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's talking about, but I like it.
Speaker 1: What am I gonna do? Argue? What am I gonna
Speaker 1: It's like that fourteen year old picture he has with
Speaker 1: the long hair and he's in the band and he's
Speaker 1: got these outrageous trap muscles. Maybe maybe it's Tennis haven't
Speaker 1: playing a lot more. Maybe Tennis really works on those tracks.
Speaker 1: I think Western specifically speaking to a broadcast where the
Speaker 1: lighting in Greg's um studio. If you want to call.
Speaker 1: That room was darkened and he had a I mean,
Speaker 1: according to people on Twitter, latino esque like look to him.
Speaker 1: You did not look like he looked like you were
Speaker 1: from Uh. I don't know. Remember those old Barbara remember
Speaker 1: those old Barbara Walters specials from the eighties. And it
Speaker 1: had that weird filter that made Barbara look about thirty
Speaker 1: years younger. And the guest it was very flattering. I
Speaker 1: think Greg got the filter great. He does have a
Speaker 1: new background since last time I've been on. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: has all right. I also put a little picture of
Speaker 1: myself and my brother as I noticed that too. That
Speaker 1: is that you and your brother? Well, that'll be on Friday.
Speaker 1: I just yeah, I want I want deem to see.
Speaker 1: I want to send a little picture that there you are, buddy.
Speaker 1: You made it about you, very weird about you. I
Speaker 1: just spent some time with my brother Kevin Danger and
Speaker 1: you forget about um how much you missed your family
Speaker 1: and you're not with him. Chris Westling, You're like family
Speaker 1: to us. What's going on with you, buddy? Well? I
Speaker 1: planned on being back sooner, but um, like a week
Speaker 1: before Link was born, I went in for my regular
Speaker 1: CT scan and it showed some uh lymph note activity
Speaker 1: at my abdominal cavity, so uh they arranged for a
Speaker 1: PET scan about a month later, and UM, about three
Speaker 1: weeks ago, my doctor told me that I've got another
Speaker 1: pretty serious fight on my hands. Cancer has returned UM
Speaker 1: in my abdominal cavity and several places on my skeleton.
Speaker 1: They are eminem sized lesions. UM. So my doctor is
Speaker 1: telling me that we've got the luxury of time because
Speaker 1: we caught it early. So UM, starting hopefully late this
Speaker 1: week early next week, I'll be doing a combination of
Speaker 1: chemotherapy and targeted therapy UM for a month and then
Speaker 1: another month of treatment, so two months total, and then
Speaker 1: we're gonna run some scans and hopefully it will be
Speaker 1: last time where we find out the cancer has been
Speaker 1: obliterated and I can get back to a normal quality
Speaker 1: of life and continuing to um be with my lovely
Speaker 1: wife and my son. Mhmm, yeah. Thinking about like the
Speaker 1: timing finding that out like a week before you know,
Speaker 1: Lincoln was coming at You know, it's tough. Obviously when
Speaker 1: you first told us that it took it took the
Speaker 1: air out of our sales for a bit. But just
Speaker 1: just seeing how Keisha response and how this this baby
Speaker 1: and have been over there a couple of times quickly
Speaker 1: just outside just how you guys are. It hasn't slowed
Speaker 1: your glow, you know, I mean like and especially Keisha,
Speaker 1: you said it to me West, I don't think your
Speaker 1: mind sharing just when when times are tough, she's even
Speaker 1: more positive, she's even um more of a rock and
Speaker 1: and helping and and looking at all the blessings you
Speaker 1: guys have, uh in life, which is just you know,
Speaker 1: amazing and as a friend, Uh, you know, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: I'm sad that you have to go through this battle again,
Speaker 1: but I'm I'm happy. I'm happy she's alongside with you,
Speaker 1: and I know you're gonna you're gonna be great, and
Speaker 1: you've got us, and you've got you've got the listeners
Speaker 1: to who I know sent you a lot of support
Speaker 1: to the first time around. Well, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: hell of a brutal fight. And well I like to
Speaker 1: say that I've got the best corner man in the
Speaker 1: business with Keisha. She's um tougher than I am. And
Speaker 1: we had a good cry when we found out. But
Speaker 1: then immediately it's like okay, now, it's time to fight,
Speaker 1: and you mentioned the listeners. I know this from experience.
Speaker 1: You do not get through something like this without love
Speaker 1: and support from other people. It brings you down spiritually, psychologically,
Speaker 1: and you have to have a positive attitude. You have
Speaker 1: to live in the present because you can't. You can't
Speaker 1: decide that your best moments are over um, and you
Speaker 1: can't decide that the future is scary. So you live
Speaker 1: in the present. And the listeners help me do that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and West, I mean that is Keisha's superpower and we
Speaker 1: saw that firsthand, and you lived at first hand the
Speaker 1: first time around. And I mean I think experience shows
Speaker 1: everyone here and anyone listening that I learned. I learned
Speaker 1: a lot from you, um the first the first battle
Speaker 1: that you that you went through. And I really and
Speaker 1: I mean this, I don't think I know of anyone
Speaker 1: who exhibited more strength, UM in the face of it.
Speaker 1: And so I know you can do it again. I
Speaker 1: think everyone else does. To UM, keep your spirits up
Speaker 1: and don't be afraid to ask us to help in
Speaker 1: any way or just to listen, because UM, you know
Speaker 1: we're here for you until until through the whole thing.
Speaker 1: That's all I can say is that as friends will
Speaker 1: just will be with you the whole way. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: is such a great support system that you have behind you,
Speaker 1: and Keisha's right at the front, and I just know
Speaker 1: you and um, what a fight are you? R Wes,
Speaker 1: And you also have all the this is this is
Speaker 1: obviously a different type of fight in terms of the cancer.
Speaker 1: You've been through this before and I know that you're
Speaker 1: I would imagine part of what made it so scary
Speaker 1: the first time was the unknown of it all. And
Speaker 1: and it's I mean, it's stopped me in my tracks
Speaker 1: when you sent us the text a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: ago that this had come back. Um, but yeah, I
Speaker 1: think cancer doesn't know that was the cancer made a
Speaker 1: bad decision to come back on you. Because it's gonna
Speaker 1: get its ask kicked again and we're gonna celebrate just
Speaker 1: like we did the last time. And I can't wait
Speaker 1: for that. I miss you, guys. I know not everyone
Speaker 1: has great friends in the world, you know, And the
Speaker 1: value of true friends is it's up there among the
Speaker 1: things I cherished most in life, and I'm I'm thankful
Speaker 1: for it. Well, Plus you don't have to we we
Speaker 1: do love you and you are getting out of having
Speaker 1: to talk about like alleviate Vernon's contract restructure in the
Speaker 1: middle of a global pandemic. So there's some bright side
Speaker 1: for you. That is a bright John Robinson West just
Speaker 1: so you know, uh, wants to sign Jadavan Colannie maybe
Speaker 1: to the Titans, but he wants to get a look
Speaker 1: at him in the facility before doing that. That was
Speaker 1: that was my pairing back in March. I mean, this
Speaker 1: fight isn't going to take his love for the Titans
Speaker 1: less West Nail. It takes parishute in and nail it
Speaker 1: takes Yeah, alright, West, Well, well, I'm sure the the
Speaker 1: listeners appreciate your candor and this. That was the other
Speaker 1: thing that I was so impressed and um by the
Speaker 1: first time, was that how open you were about the battle.
Speaker 1: And um it takes a special person to be that open. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's almost it's equality in you that I've always envied,
Speaker 1: how open you are with people. So you're gonna get
Speaker 1: an outpouring of support like did last time, and uh,
Speaker 1: you know it's coming from us too, So it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a wave wave of positivity coming down at west
Speaker 1: manor I'm already tired of like stretching the truth and
Speaker 1: off you skating what's going on when people send me
Speaker 1: d m s on Twitter and on Instagram where you've been,
Speaker 1: and it's like, I want to tell you, but I'm
Speaker 1: not there yet. I want to know more about what
Speaker 1: I'm fighting before I tell people when I'm fighting. My
Speaker 1: doctors are they're optimistic that I'll be back in remission
Speaker 1: within a couple of months, and I hope so too. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm hoping to be back on this podcast within a
Speaker 1: week or two. Um, Shadowy League HR figures have kept
Speaker 1: me away from just joining it, you know, for ten
Speaker 1: minutes here, a half an hour there, which I'd like
Speaker 1: to be doing in the last month and a half,
Speaker 1: but it's against the rules, so I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to do it. I like to see that you're still
Speaker 1: battling entities and um, you know, authority figures within the
Speaker 1: NFL media realm. That's that's says you're not you're fighting,
Speaker 1: You're not done fighting. Hopefully in a few months, I
Speaker 1: can say they'll never tell a two time cancer survivor
Speaker 1: to wear a stupid lanyard. I'm just gonna ask you
Speaker 1: if if the hospital makes you were a Laniard tail.
Speaker 1: The man does not wear lanyards. And that's final, it's
Speaker 1: not happening. Well, I love you to love you, buddy,
Speaker 1: and and spend that time with Lakeisha and Link and uh,
Speaker 1: hopefully the Reds come back in a couple of weeks
Speaker 1: and your treatments gone well and away we go. Hopefully
Speaker 1: the baseball season means something, because that would be nice
Speaker 1: to take my mind off at things. And I won't
Speaker 1: even bring up the fact that there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: d H in the National League because you don't need more.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we don't just just labeled a slow
Speaker 1: pitch softball, just relabeling game. I'm miss up. Plus you
Speaker 1: gotta get better for that too. We gotta get back
Speaker 1: on the softball field. I gotta get you out of retirement.
Speaker 1: But there's another roadblock there as well. Now loved. There
Speaker 1: he goes the great Chris Westling. And yes, that is
Speaker 1: the uh the update, like I had mentioned a couple
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, West of Texas has just let us know.
Speaker 1: And obviously it's something that you know, took the wind
Speaker 1: out of our sales, and you know, quite Frank, and
Speaker 1: I know I'm not alone in on this that the
Speaker 1: last couple of weeks of doing the show has been
Speaker 1: not great. It's been kind of knowing that the unknown
Speaker 1: of it all and that the West is sick and
Speaker 1: not feeling well. It's you know, the show is not
Speaker 1: whole when he's not there, and to know that he's
Speaker 1: in this tough situation. It's been very tough, tough sledding,
Speaker 1: but just seeing him just now and hearing and knowing
Speaker 1: he's optimistic and getting great treatment with a great support
Speaker 1: system that that makes that makes your day. It's been
Speaker 1: it's been like an off season of compartmentalizing and this
Speaker 1: I agreed, Dan is sort of the toughest that you know,
Speaker 1: you gotta put that to the side and you know,
Speaker 1: pretend that uh, you know, some camp battle is you know,
Speaker 1: really is meaningful in the scheme of things in the
Speaker 1: middle of a pandemic and our friends going through this,
Speaker 1: but we we know, we know it's not we know
Speaker 1: it's entertainment. We know it's fun. Doesn't mean you don't
Speaker 1: take our our jobs seriously and that like we're grateful
Speaker 1: to have it, but it's also you know, a reminder
Speaker 1: of of where it is in the scheme of things.
Speaker 1: All right, Um, you know what, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: stick a pin in the update on the Gates vill
Speaker 1: Messenger talk about it now, so I'll have to tease
Speaker 1: that for next week and uh, not excited to discuss
Speaker 1: whatever um the update is, but I'll I'll put it
Speaker 1: this way. I'm not If it seems like I'm putting
Speaker 1: it off on purpose, I'm not. It's just the way
Speaker 1: it's been working out schedule wise. But yeah, I have
Speaker 1: something to get off my chest about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: thrilled about it, but let's stick a pin on that
Speaker 1: until Monday. Maybe me and the Gates Sell messenger I'm
Speaker 1: seeing so I had I right now. Who knows. It
Speaker 1: probably won't pop up on our NFL network broadcast. We
Speaker 1: are back this Friday, but uh, you never know, So
Speaker 1: check that out six pm Eastern, three pm Pacific the
Speaker 1: around the NFL broadcast, and then we'll be back with
Speaker 1: another show on Monday. And yes, again, we're just like
Speaker 1: the NFL usually we tell you around this time of
Speaker 1: the year, Hey we're getting close to training camp and
Speaker 1: going back to three times a week. Well let's just see,
Speaker 1: that's that's our plan. If training camp kicks off and
Speaker 1: it goes to schedule. Uh, we're gonna get back to
Speaker 1: a three times a week cycle, but we don't know yet,
Speaker 1: so we're not gonna tell you that. So just know
Speaker 1: that next time you hear from us for the podcast
Speaker 1: is Monday, NFL Network Friday, and that is it. This
Speaker 1: is Dan Hansas signing off for Quiet Storm, the old Boss,
Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, and yes, the mailman Chris Westling. Love that
Speaker 1: guy until Friday