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Speaker 1: Yeah, we get everybody, and welcome to another edition of

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Speaker 1: Big Blue Kick Off Live, presented by Corey's White Here

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Speaker 1: on Giants dot Com. It is Monday afternoon in East Rutherford,

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Speaker 1: New Jersey, as the Giants continue training camp. Today was

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Speaker 1: the first morning practice of training camp, as coach Pat

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Speaker 1: Shermer has changed changed up a bit. Instead of a

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks, practice now beginning at ten forty

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Speaker 1: five in the morning, saying that the installations now during

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Speaker 1: the first two weeks have pretty much been completed, so

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Speaker 1: it's easier for them to just start practice earlier and

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Speaker 1: then make corrections later on in the day. Our number

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Speaker 1: hashtag Giants Chat. I will also try to get to

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Speaker 1: some of your questions and comments now before we get

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Speaker 1: to today's phone calls and questions and and and so

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Speaker 1: forth and so on. A couple of business notes to

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Speaker 1: take care of just got done. Talking to coach Shermer

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Speaker 1: at his media availabilities. Um, let's tell everybody that Brian

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Speaker 1: Mhullack suffered a burner during practice. Went down to just

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Speaker 1: own power. Left the practice field. Coach said, it thinks

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Speaker 1: it was only a burner. They'll check on him further

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Speaker 1: this afternoon, but he has been running. It's a giant

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Speaker 1: second team left tackle. During the course of training camp,

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Speaker 1: Giants giving other reps to Chris Slade at the tackle

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Speaker 1: spot extra reps today. Excuse me and also well Paul

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Speaker 1: Adams uh Slade, an NFL veteran at Adams, a rookie

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Speaker 1: excited here if we talked about practice, because it is

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Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Your temperature in the eighties, sunny skies,

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Speaker 1: low humidity would agree. Truly, this was the most perfect

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Other thoughts as we go

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Speaker 1: referred today Zach Piassi and Michael Thomas excuse to tend

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Speaker 1: the silk of his child, which is the course of

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Speaker 1: about his expanding family when he gets back, probably tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I was guilt, but I'm not sure. Giants also Coach

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Speaker 1: Shermer announcing that the Golden Tape we'll be heading to

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Speaker 1: the NFL officers at some point tomorrow to go through

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Speaker 1: his appeal on the suspension over the fertility treatment that

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Speaker 1: sooner rather than later. Other items, let's sit here, I

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Speaker 1: guess Coach shermoer just in terms of some of his

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Speaker 1: A few times you can contact it. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: that was left thumb, and they really don't want him

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Speaker 1: practice field and he has been getting contacted, but no harm,

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Speaker 1: no foul. Coach Hermer said everything they'll stay with him,

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Speaker 1: and actually there is a benefit to him still trying

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Speaker 1: to make one handed catches with his good hand, his

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Speaker 1: for him to practice just trying to catch with one

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Speaker 1: Let's see what else did the coach talk about today.

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Speaker 1: He said, Paul Perkins is doing a really good job.

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Speaker 1: He has shown deceptive speed, He's been catching almost everything

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Speaker 1: I thought there was another great play on defense. The

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Speaker 1: to see him well today. Made a nice play, one

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Speaker 1: number four has John from Pennsylvania, your first on the show. Hello, Hey,

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Speaker 1: how you doing great? How are you doing well? Just

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Speaker 1: negative in regards to Daniel Jones's development, you know, considering

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Speaker 1: I don't know a quarter into the game. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Jones will be facing many of

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Speaker 1: hands in there right at the last second and knocking

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Speaker 1: it down. His timing is impeccable. His anticipation is something

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Speaker 1: to watch, and he's certainly has a lot of speed. Now,

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Speaker 1: I also am very anxious to see him get more

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Speaker 1: physical in the games, because, as you know, in these

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Speaker 1: practice sessions, even when they're in pads, they're not as

435
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Speaker 1: physical as they're going to be once they're in live action.

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Speaker 1: So I'm really anxious to see that. I'm anxious to

437
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Speaker 1: see how his run support is, and I'm anxious to

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Speaker 1: see how well he tackles um. He was very physical

439
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Speaker 1: at Georgia and and when he locked onto somebody and

440
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Speaker 1: wrapped up, he usually brought him down. So I'm anxious

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Speaker 1: to see all that. But until I see him in

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Speaker 1: a game again, Jeff, this is one of those guys.

443
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Speaker 1: He's checking all the boxes so far. Now we got

444
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Speaker 1: to see game boxes. Is that fair? Yeah, that's all understandable.

445
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: It sounds like he's coming along rather well well. Coach said,

446
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,920
Speaker 1: actually yesterday's or two days ago and his last press

447
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 1: or that he was he was doing a good job.

448
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,679
Speaker 1: And there's no question about his stickiness. Let me just

449
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: say right now, he is very very sticky. Good. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 1: And you asked also about hrcas Golden Um Golden. I'll

451
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Speaker 1: be honest, I haven't seen any quote splash plays out

452
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Speaker 1: of him during the early part of training camp. But

453
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Speaker 1: in talking to a coach Dawson, who was the outside

454
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Speaker 1: linebackers coach, the other day, he had a press availability,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's on giants dot Com. He was

456
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Speaker 1: specifically asked about Golden and said, you know what, he

457
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Speaker 1: has seen the burst, he has seen the explosion off

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Speaker 1: the line, and it looks like, you know, he's he's

459
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Speaker 1: got some of that stuff that he had back in

460
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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen with the Cardinals. For me, I need

461
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Speaker 1: to see it in the games because you know, it's

462
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: always hard. The lineman can't do everything they want to

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Speaker 1: do against a blitzer in these practices because again, the

464
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Speaker 1: contact is kind of limited. It's more like flood contact

465
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Speaker 1: where you're you're you're cracking shoulder pads and that's about

466
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Speaker 1: you know, You're really not doing a lot of full

467
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Speaker 1: throttle banging or knocking guys on their butts. I need,

468
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Speaker 1: you know, if I'm gonna look at a pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: I mean I could see some moves, yeah, but is

470
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Speaker 1: it fair to say he's making great moves if I

471
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Speaker 1: know the offensive lineman can't do everything that he wants

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Speaker 1: to do to him right, So so again I'm gonna say,

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Speaker 1: with Marcus Golden, let me see the boxes in the games.

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Speaker 1: Right now, to this point, he's moving around well. I

475
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Speaker 1: don't see any signs of of limping or of gimpiness

476
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Speaker 1: or of him favoring his knee. When you know he

477
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: played with the Cardinals last year. Now, he wasn't very productive,

478
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Speaker 1: but he did play a whole season. This is your

479
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Speaker 1: two after the h c L surgery, so this is

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Speaker 1: the year he's supposed to max out. I'm I'm gonna

481
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Speaker 1: be looking at him very carefully in the games. I'm

482
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Speaker 1: not gonna lie to you because I know the Giants

483
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: need some pressure out of him. It is imperative that

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Speaker 1: he gives them some pass rush. You and I both

485
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: know that I will tell you this. Zimmonez. Zimmonez has

486
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Speaker 1: been the most impressive of all the pass rushers. Okay,

487
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Speaker 1: okay that I will tell you. Let's hope we can

488
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Speaker 1: see some positive things Thursday night, got you Jeff appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Two O one nine three nine four or five one

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Speaker 1: three is the number here on Big Blue Kick Off Live.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Thursday night. For those of you who

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Speaker 1: may be uh not looking at the preseason schedule because

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Speaker 1: maybe it's not as important to you. Yes, the Giants

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Speaker 1: and the Jets will be playing the preseason opener here

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Speaker 1: at met Live Stadium on Thursday night at seven o'clock.

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Speaker 1: Looking very much forward to doing that. In fact, I'll

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Speaker 1: be in the radio booth doing the game with Sean O'Hara,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a very exciting night. We do

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Speaker 1: anticipate Daniel Jones making his professional debut, albeit in a

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Speaker 1: preseason game. We go to line two and Charlie from Portland, Maine.

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Speaker 1: Hello Charlie, Hey, Paul, wonderful today. How are you. It's

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day out there. Oh it is. It's here.

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Speaker 1: It's beautiful here too. And I just want to say something.

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00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: I Uh, the Red Sox people did a lot of

505
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 1: talking last week, but they ain't talking this week, which

506
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: is sweet. Cat got their tongue. Huh yeah, exactly. I

507
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: have to pleaded. Yankees team literally buried them under like

508
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Speaker 1: a bulldozer. Yeah, I know, it's so sweet to watch

509
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: and just you know, that's that's good. And then the Giants, hey, like,

510
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: what's happening? We wheel is not practicing. Holes got a stinger,

511
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: which usually means it's a next thing and it's nerve

512
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,959
Speaker 1: nerve pinched or something. And then we got big George

513
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 1: has got a concussion. And now we've got a guard

514
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: we're throwing in his tackle. When aren't we going to

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Speaker 1: bring in a veteran? When are we going to bring

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Speaker 1: in a tackle Charlie ridiculous? You know, they are constantly

517
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,719
Speaker 1: wheeling guys in here to take a look and to

518
00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: give them workouts and tryouts and stuff, because that's what

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00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,040
Speaker 1: pro personnel people do. Uh. During the course of camp

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Speaker 1: and even during the regular season. I assure you, the

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Speaker 1: Giants have their radar out for anybody who they believe

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Speaker 1: can make a push onto this fifty three man roster.

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Speaker 1: I guess all I can say to you is, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna ask you to trust me when I tell you

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Speaker 1: they're doing due diligence and they're trying to find somebody,

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Speaker 1: anybody who they believe is good enough to make this

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Speaker 1: team better. All right, When you walk by hell Hunter,

528
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: just say well D, and then he'll say what, and

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Speaker 1: you say, well D. You might get it. I might

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Speaker 1: add for you, though, here's one thing you may be

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Speaker 1: really happy about. The interior line. My goodness. Uh, I

532
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: really like the way Nick Gates is coming along. The

533
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Speaker 1: Nebraska rookie from last year who was on the practice squad.

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Speaker 1: He is feisty and I saw that on his Nebraska tape.

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Speaker 1: He stays with a block long and he and he

536
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Speaker 1: and he just fights you. He's a scrapper. He's another

537
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Speaker 1: one of those kinds of guys. Are Richie soyber kind guy.

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Speaker 1: I I like him a lot, And uh, why aren't

539
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 1: we just trying him? He's not he's he doesn't have

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Speaker 1: quick enough and athleticism enough to be a tackle in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. He's he's a guard. He is a guard.

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Speaker 1: But between him and then if Pulley winds up being

543
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 1: the backup center, you know, that would be a real

544
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: nice six and seven on the offensive line depth chart.

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Speaker 1: So I just throw that out to you, And at

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Speaker 1: the same time, I understand your trepidation over the third tackle,

547
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 1: because right now it is a question mark going into

548
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Speaker 1: the preseason games. All right, We'll keep me posted. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm always looking online, Charlie, come on my binoculars out

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Speaker 1: all the time, you know that. And thanks for the info. Well,

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00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy out of you have mentioned

552
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: on this program several times, and so when I saw

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Speaker 1: something that was that was on the field, I needed

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00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: to tell you about it. Hey, Wednesday, they just walkthrough. No, no,

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00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: they'll they'll do a card at practice tomorrow, which means

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Speaker 1: they actually will run practice against quote Jets plays, and

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00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: then on Wednesday it will be a walkthrough, as they

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00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: always do a walk through in the twenty four hours

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00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: before a game, and then the game obviously is going

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Speaker 1: to be on Thursday night. All right, I'm excited. I

561
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: can't wait to watch trying to remember the games on

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Speaker 1: NFL Network live as well. If you're in New York,

563
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,959
Speaker 1: it's on channel four w NBC TV. But NFL Network

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Speaker 1: is going to carry the game live on a simulcast

565
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Speaker 1: around the country. And I've just been told Dave that's true.

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Speaker 1: Giants dot Com, i am told, is actually going to

567
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Speaker 1: webcast the live television broadcast a stream on Giants dot com.

568
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: So even if you're having dinner, maybe the lobsters in

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Speaker 1: front of that. Charlie, you can look at it on

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Speaker 1: your phone. Hey, I'll watch it and then I'll listen

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Speaker 1: to you. And oh are you gonna be on the

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Speaker 1: We'll be on w f A N sixty six, me

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Speaker 1: and Sean O'Hara doing the radio broadcast looking forward up

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Speaker 1: here at night. So I'll turn you guys. I think

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Speaker 1: half the country does. It's a great signal. Thank you, Charlie. Okay, guys,

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Speaker 1: have a great day. Two one four, five, one three.

577
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: Plenty of lines open if you want to get in

578
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 1: and talk Giants football. Will be here till the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour. And now we go to line for it.

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Speaker 1: Coach Marvin in Delaware, you're next on the show. Hi,

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Speaker 1: I'm great, coach. How are you? I'm doing good? I

582
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Speaker 1: see you there about yourself today. Yeah, we were a

583
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: little bit short staff, but that's okay. I think I

584
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Speaker 1: can hack it. Oh, I know you can handle it. No,

585
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: big bill, Um, what I wanted to talk about you

586
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: were talking about. I know we don't know how much

587
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: time they're gonna play on Thursday. Yeah, we just don't.

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Speaker 1: But but me miss, just my thinking is I would

589
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: put I would tiple put them out there longer than

590
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: a two possession game where sometimes Feelie doesn't play. I

591
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: think I think we're at the point now that those

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00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: guys need to get out there because in the practices,

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00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: you know, there's no live hitting, there's no tackling, none

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00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: of that that is stugging. And now you get a

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00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: chance to go out there and play and um, and

596
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: each team is trying to learn um, their teammates us

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00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: their plane. So this is a good game to play.

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00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 1: Maybe a quarter. I would like to see them play

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00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: a quarter. I no normal if that's not the norm

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00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 1: for most things. They just go out there and play

601
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: one or two possessions, especially if they're well established. Um.

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00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: If you're talking to somebody like just using them for

603
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: an example New England, they really the way they play

604
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: is pretty much they keep the rosters pretty much the same,

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00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: so they don't have to uh play their started as much.

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00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: I think one of the positions we may need to

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00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: play the offensive line for a quarter until leots they

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00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: go out and they played well the first to see

609
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: you take them out. Um, But coach, I get I

610
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: get your point, and I actually leaned towards what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: But there is one other side to this dilemma, and

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00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:20,720
Speaker 1: that is the Giants starting five is real solid on paper,

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00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 1: but then when you get behind those guys. As I said,

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00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: you know, Gates is an experience, but I think he's

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00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,799
Speaker 1: gonna probably make the team if it all goes well

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00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I think he'll make the team as

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Speaker 1: a backup interior guy. And obviously if Polly doesn't beat

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00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:39,160
Speaker 1: up Halla Peo, He's gonna make it as a backup

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Speaker 1: interior guy as well. But the two tackles, I'll be honest,

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a jita thinking about

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Speaker 1: playing Solder and Remors a lot during the preseason. Given

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Speaker 1: the state of the third tackle spot. We know that

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Speaker 1: Wheelers nicked up. Now we see maholiks nick up, Big

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00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: George is nicked up. I mean what we're trying guys

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00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: like Slade and Adams out there today, giving them extra

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00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: reps at the spot. It's a it's it's more than

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Speaker 1: thin behind the two starters at the offensive tackle spots.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not I don't think I'm I'm talking out

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Speaker 1: of turn when I say to you, the Giants need

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Speaker 1: both of those tackles to play sixteen games. Okay, as

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Speaker 1: you're saying that, I would have to agree with you,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I wasn't looking at it in that manner.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking at it that way, if my

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00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,839
Speaker 1: tackles are not healthy and I'm I'm trying to bandiating

635
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: the offensive line to get into the game, then you

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00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: get a point that you don't want your starters plan

637
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 1: behind unproven tackles, And um, I can agree with that

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 1: well and and yeah, and that's the hard party here,

639
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Speaker 1: Coach Marvin, because you know, if Daniel Jones, we look,

640
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty safe bet Daniel is going

641
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: to play some against the Jets. I think we can

642
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: all pretty much assume that. I don't think it's a reach.

643
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,720
Speaker 1: I don't know when it's going to be and who's

644
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: going to be in there with him. Now to this

645
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,840
Speaker 1: point in training camp, he has taken snaps, uh, some

646
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,720
Speaker 1: are with the third team early on during the off season,

647
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 1: and now mostly with the second team during camp. He

648
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: has not taken any snaps with the first team. So

649
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: so you know, on one hand, I'm like, Okay, if

650
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: you put him in with the first team, he's in

651
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: with all these unfamiliar guys that he hasn't worked with before,

652
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know if that's fair to him. And

653
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: then the other thing is, though, if you put him

654
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 1: in with the second team and we know that the

655
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: tackles behind the two starters are let's just say question marks.

656
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 1: My goodness, I mean, is Daniel Jones going to be

657
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: running for his life every time he drops back to

658
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: pass if he's in there with the backups? So you know,

659
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm you know, But and again, it's football. These

660
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: guys are men. You gotta be tough, you gotta play

661
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 1: the game. And you can't put him in Bubba wrapped

662
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: the entire month of August's right, you can't. And this football,

663
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 1: regardless of who where are you planning, who you're planning,

664
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: you always get that chance of getting hurt. My guys

665
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,280
Speaker 1: said once you once you go out here and play,

666
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: there's that chance you're gonna get hurt, regardless of how

667
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: your plan. You can be playing two hand touched. Somebody

668
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: take this serious, and somebody, I just I just thought

669
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: that Daniel Jones has enough sense that if he does

670
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: have to drop back to pass a lot behind the

671
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: backup blindman, that he's able to run out of bounds.

672
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: Because I don't really need to see any Jets defenders

673
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: taking some hits on him. Well, if he Lie is

674
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: only gonna play one or two serious, I would like

675
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,840
Speaker 1: I mean, he's the six overall pickup instead of Fanny.

676
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Unless ELI wasn't planned, then I wouldn't mind Danny starting

677
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: Elie is gonna play. I think I would rather go

678
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: to Daniel Jones after Eli. I mean, he's the sixth

679
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 1: overall pick and I'm not looking for him to light

680
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,799
Speaker 1: it all up, So I'd like to see him as

681
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: far as does he making right decisions. I'm not going

682
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: to question his arms. I don't know who's questioning if

683
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: he can throw these throws. The guys the number six

684
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: six overall, you have scalps watching them, and and these

685
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: guys know more than just as much as anybody. You

686
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 1: got to be able to throw. So there's no way

687
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 1: he could be a six overall pick and don't have

688
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 1: the arm. So I'm not worried about his arm. I'm

689
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: warning about his decision making. Is he can he make

690
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 1: the right decisions, like the right read and throw in

691
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 1: the right area. Um, if he's off a little bit,

692
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: that's expected because it's the first thing is that the

693
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: right decisions he's making and you're looking at the tap

694
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: and said that's where he should be going. That left

695
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: what he text, you know, And that's all I wanted

696
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: to see. The other thing I want to know, because

697
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: we're talking about exhibition games, how they I haven't seen

698
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: anything about joint practice. Do they ever lined up to

699
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: your practice or no? No, the Giants are not having

700
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: any joint practices this season. Oh. I thought that would

701
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 1: be a pretty good practice to have a joint practice

702
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: that they were coming to do. Yeah. I think coach

703
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: Sherman explored it, but I don't think the schedule worked

704
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: out well enough that they were able to make it happen.

705
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if they tried it again next year. Yeah. Yeah,

706
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,719
Speaker 1: And the other one I wanted to go, I wanted

707
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 1: to I haven't heard much about Bill Bill I right

708
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: or well? He tweaked his hammy and his growing about

709
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: a week ago, and and as he has come off

710
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: the field to nurse his injuries, it has allowed Corey

711
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: Valentine to get extra snaps. In fact, he even got

712
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: a few snaps with the ones today and he has

713
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: been outstanding. Yeah, I read I read about him. I

714
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: do like the secondary that we have, even though they're

715
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: young guys, unproven, but they have the skills. But the

716
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: Bill wants I don't know if you remember last year,

717
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: he was the one I was asking or dating the

718
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: supplemental jack and in Bill like, I think he does

719
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: have to talent. But I think so too. The injuries

720
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: now is concerning me a little bit. I'm not gonna

721
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:14,919
Speaker 1: worry too much about it right now, but he didn't

722
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 1: play last year because the injury shoulder. That was a shoulder,

723
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: though this is different. This is a lower tissue, a

724
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: lower body, a soft tissue injury. So I don't want

725
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: to equate it to the shoulder, and I I don't

726
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: want to call him injury prone. And in fact, coach

727
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 1: Summer was asked about him today and said, well, you know,

728
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: he's getting better and when he gets in there, he's

729
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: just gonna have to catch out, right right. That's that's

730
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 1: the part that concerns me, because he has to catch up.

731
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: I know I would say it this coach Marvin. If

732
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 1: the other three rookie corners are all really doing well

733
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: and they all see time once the regular season starts,

734
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's a crowded secondary. Now, you know, it

735
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: would be a luxury, to be honest with you, if

736
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: all four of those guys are ready to do immediately,

737
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: that would be outstanding. Right now, it looks like that

738
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: the other three already, which is which is really terrific,

739
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: and it's gravy if Bill can catch up and also

740
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: be ready by the Dallas game, right and and and

741
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: I think that can be a I mean, that's a

742
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: good point that I really like the secondary even though

743
00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: they're not experienced. I do like the talents that they have.

744
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing they had was college, so

745
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: that's all. We can look at what they did in college.

746
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: And when they did play in college, they played it

747
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 1: well at the top level in college, so that there's

748
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: some skills there. Well, Bill didn't Bill Bill, Bill Bill

749
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,800
Speaker 1: was He was not at a power program, right but

750
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: but but nonetheless, I mean, you're right, his skill set

751
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: is there. I have every confidence that that he can

752
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: play in this league. But right now he's fallen behind

753
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: a bit. That's all that's okay, right, right right, Thanks Harving,

754
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 1: be great to talking up today, you too, call again

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00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 1: two O one nine three nine four five one three.

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00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: Our lines are open. There's plenty of room to get

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00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: in here. On Big Blue Kick Off Live. We are

758
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: here Monday through Friday at one pm Eastern time. We're

759
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: on for one hour to take your calls and your

760
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: comments about the New York Football Giants. You can hit

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00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: me up personally at Giants w f A N on

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Speaker 1: Twitter or at hashtag Giants Chat n y G. T.

763
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 1: Blair says about Paul Perkins, he had a big he

764
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: has a big opportunity with the upcoming preseason games. I

765
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,720
Speaker 1: think if he plays above average, he sticks and Wayne

766
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: Goldman is gone. Uh. I don't agree with that. He

767
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: says old management team drafted Goldman, not this regime. Well,

768
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 1: that's true, but I do think that Wayne Goldman is

769
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,320
Speaker 1: the second running back on this depth chart, and I

770
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: don't see him necessarily losing that position. I don't think

771
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,640
Speaker 1: he's done anything at training camp that would knock him

772
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: down a notch. However, I do believe very strongly that

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00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: Paul Perkins is solidified as the number three running back.

774
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,320
Speaker 1: And as I've said many times on this show before,

775
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: he has caught more passes out of the backfield than

776
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 1: any of the Giants running backs, at least by just

777
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: I I the eye test during the spring and the summer,

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00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: and we already know that from his rookie season when

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00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 1: he averaged ten yards to catch and when he was

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00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 1: able to pick up the blitz on throw down, which

781
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: we also saw that he is fully capable of becoming,

782
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: at the very least a productive through down specialist. At

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00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: the very least. I'm a big Paul Perkins guy because

784
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: I do like him in space and again throw down back.

785
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: You get about in space he can do damage by

786
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: cutting and weaving his way through people. Not the fastest

787
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 1: guy straight on, not the most powerful guy straight on,

788
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 1: but you get him in space, he makes people miss.

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00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: That's what That was his specialty at U c l A.

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00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: When I think one of the analytic services had him

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00:44:56,760 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: with the most uh juke yardage, if you will, UH

792
00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: in in his class when he came out like three

793
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: years ago. Oh, I see the line starting to ring

794
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: a little bit. That's good. Two one four, five, one three.

795
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: Let's see if we've got a a tweet on Giants

796
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 1: Chat that we can get to uh. Alex Wilson says

797
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: kindly as earned first team repsolately quickly rising B J.

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00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: Goodson better watch his back Well. Connolly, the rookie out

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00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,919
Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, the fifth rounder, has been earning first team

800
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: reps mostly as a sub package when they go first

801
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 1: team with the sub because of his quickness and athleticism.

802
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Um he has h certainly gotten some opportunities in that regard,

803
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 1: so very good for him as he continues to prove

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00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 1: that he may have a chance to be more than

805
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: just a special teams player during his rookie season. We

806
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 1: do our own to mind people and being told by

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00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Dave that again the Giants game on Thursday night, if

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Speaker 1: you want to listen to it, it's only on w

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Speaker 1: f A N six six a m. Because on the

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Speaker 1: other side of the dial for w f A n

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00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,080
Speaker 1: FM one on one point nine, they'll have the Yankees

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00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: game on. So the Yankees will be on f A

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00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 1: n f M. The Giants will be on f A

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00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: N A M on Thursday night, So in case you're

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00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 1: trying to find it on your radio dial, you understand

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00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 1: why you may not find the game on the FM dial.

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00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: That's where the Yankees will be. Also, it has been

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00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,600
Speaker 1: confirmed that sometime in the next twenty four hours or so,

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00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 1: we expect to see the Giants first unofficial depth chart

820
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: which comes out with the PR staff's blessing. It's not

821
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: necessarily the official coaches blessing, but the PR staff has

822
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: to put something out to prepare people for the football game,

823
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: so you know, the game's gonna kick off at seven

824
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: o'clock on Thursday. They do have a too deep that

825
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: will be coming out probably in the next twenty four

826
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: hours or so, but don't put much stock in that.

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00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 1: It's more of just for people to prepare to announce

828
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 1: the game or cover the game as a writer or

829
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: fan instant, get an idea of of who may get

830
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: some more snaps. It doesn't necessarily have anything to do.

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Speaker 1: What's what's going to happen in Week one of the

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00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: regular season against the Dallas Cowboys. All right, let's go

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Speaker 1: back to the phone lines online. Three. It's Brian from

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Speaker 1: Alabama and Brian is next on Big Blue Kickoff Live. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hey Paul, first time calling. You'll do a great job.

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00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Just a couple of quick questions. One,

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Speaker 1: if you were the GM, given Eli's door ability, would

838
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 1: you just keep two quarterbacks? That's just one question. And

839
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,479
Speaker 1: then the other question, uh, kind of a two parter.

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00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 1: Rod Smith have you seen him take any reps at

841
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,439
Speaker 1: fullback and do you do you think they'll they'll keep

842
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: Penny as a fullback or try to do without it. Yeah, okay, Brian,

843
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: I think if if they do keep a fullback, it

844
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: will be Elijah Penny. I don't think it will be

845
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: Rod Smith. He's been in there in some one back

846
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 1: situations and so forth. Um. I have Paul Perkins being

847
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 1: the number three running back and I think Rod Smith

848
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,800
Speaker 1: is veteran insurance and right now he's bringing up the

849
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,120
Speaker 1: rear is number four. Now, whether you keep four halfbacks,

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00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 1: I I don't see that happening. I think you keep

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Speaker 1: three halfbacks. And if you're going to keep a fullback

852
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Speaker 1: in Elijah Penny, well then that's the end of the

853
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: running back depth chart right there. There's just no point

854
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Speaker 1: in going any further. The question becomes do you keep

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Speaker 1: a fullback per se? And that's an interesting debate. Part

856
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 1: of the problem here is also going to involve your

857
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 1: first question, how many quarterbacks do you keep? Um? I

858
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: think the Giants are going to try to keep extra

859
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: defensive backs because they have so much young talent back there,

860
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't surprise me if they try to keep

861
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Speaker 1: an extra guy in the trenches, either whether it's the

862
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Speaker 1: defensive line or the offensive line. Uh, they may have

863
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: to keep an extra wide receiver. I mean understand, Golden

864
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: Tape may or may not be suspended for the first

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Speaker 1: four games of the regular season. So oh, I think

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Speaker 1: we uh, we got a dial him here, Dave. We

867
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Speaker 1: got to get that line off the air. Dave, They've

868
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: got to get that line off the air. There you go.

869
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Speaker 1: I understand you are, but you know the title tones

870
00:49:09,840 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: Schmelk sticking his nose in here to the studio as

871
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: we're doing the show. Um, here's the thing. So you're

872
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: gonna have to probably keep an extra wide receiver because

873
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: Tate's going to be out of commission in all likelihood,

874
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: although you never know for the first month of the year.

875
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: So you have positions you're gonna want an extra guy.

876
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: Where do you steal it from? Like I said, Rob

877
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: Peter to play Paul. That's always a good thing, since

878
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm a Paul. Uh. In any event, you also have

879
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: to understand part of the questions or part of the

880
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: dilemma with the quarterback thing is this coach Sherman really

881
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:52,800
Speaker 1: really really admires Alex Tanney because of his veteran leadership,

882
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: his football acumen, and his ability to run the offense

883
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 1: cold with hardly any preparation, in fact, no preparation at all.

884
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: That's valuable to the coach and he constantly tells us

885
00:50:10,760 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: about that. He praises to any time and time again

886
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: for that. Now do you keep that around even if

887
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,319
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has shown enough and right now he's shown

888
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: an awful lot to make you believe that he should

889
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 1: be the number two opening day. And I think right

890
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 1: now the arrow is going in that direction. I think

891
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is progressing towards being the number two quarterback

892
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 1: on this team Week one against the Cowboys. I think

893
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 1: that's the way it's pointed. He's really looked that good.

894
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 1: The preseason games will probably tell us if Jones does

895
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: belong as the two or if he does not. If

896
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: he does not belong as the two, well then maybe

897
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 1: you do to keep Tanny and you have to go

898
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 1: with three quarterbacks. It's an interesting dilemma, it really is,

899
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: because the Giants are unbalanced and that some positions they

900
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,799
Speaker 1: know they're gonna want to keep an extra guy or two,

901
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: and another positions you're gonna have to slice two one

902
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 1: four or five one three. We got about seven minutes

903
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: left on the program, and the lines are open if

904
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: you want to get in very quickly, we will definitely

905
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: get you in as we get set for the Giants

906
00:51:27,360 --> 00:51:29,320
Speaker 1: and the New York Jets and the preseason opener on

907
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: Thursday night. Funny, that the the only time, and they

908
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 1: had mentioned this to me, I'm the fan the other day,

909
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: and I had originally forgotten about it. I was asked

910
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: about the Giants and Jets always playing the third or

911
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:41,439
Speaker 1: fourth preseason game, and it always really is that way,

912
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 1: except for the one time which I had mental block

913
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: for a moment when they cut the ribbon on MetLife Stadium.

914
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: That was the only time when the Giants and Jets

915
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: played in the first weekend of the preseason. Because this

916
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: way the Giants and Jets could both say that they

917
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: were involved in the first ever football game in the

918
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 1: new building. And as you will remember, the Giants won

919
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,439
Speaker 1: that game. And uh, you know, subsequently, the preseason rival

920
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,479
Speaker 1: we continues and they flop home team and road team

921
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 1: every other year. This is a Giants home game, uh,

922
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: coming up on on Thursday. Let's take a look at

923
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: Twitter and see if there's anything here that that you

924
00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:25,800
Speaker 1: folks wanted to chime in about. Uh do do do?

925
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:33,720
Speaker 1: Do do do? Looks like we've got uh Chino. Chino

926
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:38,120
Speaker 1: likes the opportunity to use extra defensive backs in a

927
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Speaker 1: sub package more often. I don't have a problem with that.

928
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Speaker 1: It's something that I've been advocating now for several weeks,

929
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: so that's not a bad idea. Big Blue View says

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00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: nice to see Wesley finally getting some work during team periods,

931
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: and Brian says, uh, let's see. I'm not sure who's

932
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,160
Speaker 1: referring to. Always referring to the Lattimer catch the bomb,

933
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 1: which was the play of the day today. He said

934
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 1: it was a nice deep pass. I bet the ELI

935
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 1: haters will comment, uh that they only want to they

936
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 1: only see him throw short passes all the time. Well, hey,

937
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: you know you can't see if your eyes aren't open.

938
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Speaker 1: That's that's right. The only thing I'll say about that.

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Speaker 1: Um Oh, we got a call, Dave, we get one

940
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: more call in here. Let's let's sneak him in one

941
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: more phone call on Big Blue kick Call. Oh we

942
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,880
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Speaker 1: the subway or on the bus, so driving your car home.

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