Speaker 1: Forever. Look man, oh I see you? Why why? And
Speaker 1: look over there? How is that culture? Yes? Goodness less
Speaker 1: cultures calling? And I have a question. Yes, when are
Speaker 1: we gonna go see Kelly in Vegas? Okay? I just
Speaker 1: learned about this and that's how I know. I'm in
Speaker 1: like a special Kelly bubble. And you're not. Are you
Speaker 1: still that you're you're on the message boards? Is that
Speaker 1: what's going on? I am not frequenting the case mb
Speaker 1: as of late casey MB. Yes, I not a long
Speaker 1: walk to what that is. There's probably a subreddit that
Speaker 1: you love, and there's it's probably toxic, but they probably
Speaker 1: love Kelly as much as you do. I would say
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of toxicity amongst Kelly fans. Say
Speaker 1: they're very, they're very, they're you know, they're a god
Speaker 1: fearing folk and they're really really good, and there's a toxicity.
Speaker 1: And religion, well that's trust. If this is going to
Speaker 1: become a whole other podcast, we can do that. I
Speaker 1: tweeted you want to know before you I'm sorry, before
Speaker 1: you go on, I just have to say that I
Speaker 1: tweeted something that I immediately deleted last night. I said,
Speaker 1: tolerant religious people are hot and or are graded on
Speaker 1: a curve that is very generous. Oh, I might delete
Speaker 1: this and then and then I tweeted, and then I like,
Speaker 1: just to cover my bases, I replied to myself, and
Speaker 1: I go, this is all constant with the idea that
Speaker 1: organized religion has caused war and count immeasurable suffer. Why
Speaker 1: did you delete it? This sounds because then all these
Speaker 1: people were like someone was like, it's you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It's Christianity in particulars like oh God, and then everyone
Speaker 1: and then people just came in and they were like,
Speaker 1: not letting me say that hot, tolerant with just people
Speaker 1: were attractive. But bow and Yan, can I say something
Speaker 1: to you? You're trying it. You were trying to start
Speaker 1: a fight. I was not trying to start Angeles itself.
Speaker 1: You were on fire and I was a gender revealed party.
Speaker 1: Cut the Los Angeles comment. I think that you sometimes
Speaker 1: will just I think you will that light a cigarette.
Speaker 1: Here's what I think you'll do. I think you'll light
Speaker 1: a cigarette and you'll toss it away and you will
Speaker 1: put it out A little fire starts. Who was responsible?
Speaker 1: Never happened anyway? Um? Okay start Yeah, when are we
Speaker 1: seeing Kelly. I can't believe that you didn't know this,
Speaker 1: but she is going to be starting a residency at
Speaker 1: this Appos Theater, which is the same place Christina Aguilera,
Speaker 1: who the vocals are intact. We stand Christina a live.
Speaker 1: We know for a fact the vocals are intact for Kelly.
Speaker 1: So you said aprils when she starts big time, big
Speaker 1: time April first. And then she made a cute joke
Speaker 1: about how this is not in April. Fool's joke. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was lightly funny. Um. And then I
Speaker 1: I said, well, let me go right to the to
Speaker 1: the website for tickets, and I do have like a
Speaker 1: special code that I can type into. I can see
Speaker 1: things before the general public. She's only doing like nine shows.
Speaker 1: She's like, I have a residency. It's like two and
Speaker 1: a half shows, So we have to pick. We have
Speaker 1: to pick. Oh, but it's only in April, April, May,
Speaker 1: in July, September. But I'm telling you, it's like, I
Speaker 1: got it. Maybe I gotta do June sprinkled throughout June
Speaker 1: Vegas trip sounds like a nightmare weather wise, but it
Speaker 1: sounds absolutely inside. It sounds like it could be fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just I don't know. Oh I would love to. You know,
Speaker 1: the last time I was at Vegas, I was in
Speaker 1: Sutie when I was on Who Wants to Be a
Speaker 1: million And well the idea was that, well no, I
Speaker 1: went to PF Change with Dave, So yeah, I did
Speaker 1: make it to PF Change famously. Not a buffet, that
Speaker 1: thing entirely awhere. But the time before that, I was
Speaker 1: a suitie to be on Millionaire. And then we got
Speaker 1: drunk at the pool and our plan was to go
Speaker 1: to the all you can eat buffet together, but I
Speaker 1: ended up going by myself. And let me say that,
Speaker 1: being at all you can eat buffet in Las Vegas
Speaker 1: by yourself at eleven pm on a Tuesday, it is sad.
Speaker 1: It makes you feel bad. Yeah, and I bravely just
Speaker 1: sang in front of our guests, Oh my god, the nerve.
Speaker 1: It's insane. I should be shot in the streets. You
Speaker 1: should be shot in the street, should be hung, I
Speaker 1: should be drawn in quarter. Come on, don't this imagery
Speaker 1: is bad? This makes me This is is violent imagery. And
Speaker 1: our guest, what a damn star. Speaking of Kelly Clarkson. Recently,
Speaker 1: our guests actually had a duet with Kelly Clarkson, wish
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask about we got to ask about
Speaker 1: to do. Here's the thing, loving Kelly as I do.
Speaker 1: She may have been a little bit outshown in that.
Speaker 1: Not that not that singing as a competition. It's act
Speaker 1: a rutal culture number eight, not that singing a competition.
Speaker 1: But our guest is he goes like well sometimes, um,
Speaker 1: our guests is, I think one of the most beautiful singers.
Speaker 1: That one of the most beautiful singers that exists, Tony
Speaker 1: Award winner, Tony Award winner, not even just like not
Speaker 1: even just like a like never nothing like a recent
Speaker 1: Tony wins that are like, yeah, cool, do you have
Speaker 1: to give him one at some point until they want
Speaker 1: for this, But this is like he wanted for an
Speaker 1: iconic performance and you know, iconic that like just hoards
Speaker 1: and hordes of adolescence and we just adults, like we
Speaker 1: just had our guest Taylor Trenchon, who um also did
Speaker 1: the role after our iconic guest. I mean, we've been
Speaker 1: stacking the damn guests later. We've been having a lot
Speaker 1: of Evan Hanson's studio, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I know a lot a lot of Ernst. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: have a lot of art in my contact list. What
Speaker 1: do you think this isn't Ernst? Yeah? What do you
Speaker 1: think that says like Daniels and Earnest? Yes, they go
Speaker 1: I go on, they go on. Taylor was an Earnest?
Speaker 1: Was I think Taylor might have been an Ernst? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: Taylor was a milky difference. Um. Of course, of course
Speaker 1: Haunten is the top Earnst to the bottom, and More's
Speaker 1: is fluid, um fluid like the trees the trees. Um,
Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is a huge, huge deal. Um.
Speaker 1: Season two of the Politician in production now in production. Honey,
Speaker 1: you can watch. He's in One of the Politicians right now.
Speaker 1: He happens to top line in the series. And this
Speaker 1: is one that also has fucking Gwyneth Peltrow and just
Speaker 1: like a lying in it. So imagine to top top
Speaker 1: line that a true star. He's topping too off and
Speaker 1: then he's topping two offscars honestly my dream. And then
Speaker 1: and then god, I just can't wait. What you haven't
Speaker 1: heard the album sing to Me instead? Have you heard
Speaker 1: the single of the rain thing to Me instead? Beautiful album?
Speaker 1: I would say really quickly. I can't wait for the
Speaker 1: technology to be there when someday for it to be
Speaker 1: possible to top two people at the same time. Actually,
Speaker 1: I actually have I have scientists working on that right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: I recently and I have have I have, I have
Speaker 1: my I have used all my resources to give a
Speaker 1: secret code that you can plug into like a promotional
Speaker 1: promotional box or something. What it is is and this
Speaker 1: is how, this is how it is, and stay with
Speaker 1: me here. I don't get a retinal scanner, so you
Speaker 1: look them in their eyes and they get a second
Speaker 1: butth hole, yes, no, that's not no, it's you have
Speaker 1: to get Oh no, let me get to this to
Speaker 1: the lab now. Matt just left. Um okay, I'm so sorry, politician.
Speaker 1: You could you could take a bite out of the show.
Speaker 1: That's how rich it is. And here we go. It's
Speaker 1: a dan cake. Here's the here's the fucking gag for
Speaker 1: me to be in a Songdheim film. I mean that
Speaker 1: is that? That is like that, that is the end.
Speaker 1: I'll be all And can I tell you how we
Speaker 1: stand in this house, Beanie, Beanie, Beanie, We fucking stand
Speaker 1: Beanie in this house and we love book smart we
Speaker 1: love Book Smart, and we love Miss Noah, Miss Molly
Speaker 1: We Stand Miss Noah and they had a nice fourth
Speaker 1: person Halloween costume. Let me tell you something I told
Speaker 1: you about when I saw Miss Noah and a waitress. Yes,
Speaker 1: burned it down. You were blown away, killed, blown away? Oh?
Speaker 1: And can I just out our friend Pat Regan out
Speaker 1: him Pat Reagan's game. Molly Molly Gordon was at What
Speaker 1: We Stand. We Stand was at um the after party
Speaker 1: that I brought Panelong too. My god, whether we And
Speaker 1: then I see Molly Molly and then she comes over,
Speaker 1: says high and likes star struck to see Pat gorgeous.
Speaker 1: She's obsessed and they start talking and then she walks
Speaker 1: away and then Pat runs over to me and goes,
Speaker 1: who is Wait? Who was that? I was like, Pat,
Speaker 1: like you were just a three minute conversation with her asleep,
Speaker 1: And then I told her what she was and she
Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah, I love her. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, um but wait so and also our guests
Speaker 1: will be our guest on the Sea Culture Live event,
Speaker 1: which will happen as of this tapering. It's happening tonight.
Speaker 1: We'll see what's going to go down We're very excited
Speaker 1: and I am so excited, so excited to welcome to
Speaker 1: Last Cultures. Ben Platt even just like it's it's so
Speaker 1: crazy because for you to be here and to know
Speaker 1: there's people out there are like looking for you right now.
Speaker 1: Not really, no, they are there. They were waiting outside
Speaker 1: your dor Havant hit the whole time you were in it.
Speaker 1: That was like chaos with stage door, crazy crazy every night. Yes,
Speaker 1: I stopped going pretty extort after started. It was also
Speaker 1: it was like December is really cold, and like I
Speaker 1: was trying to sing that thing all the time, like
Speaker 1: eight times a week, and it became like such a
Speaker 1: like an event to go out there. And also people
Speaker 1: who didn't see the show would come and just stand
Speaker 1: at the door just to like be like the place
Speaker 1: to be and have me signed the back of like
Speaker 1: Natasha Pierre play though, and I was just like, I'm
Speaker 1: going home, no, honey. So basically okay, so you talk
Speaker 1: about singing it, and we talked with Taylor about this.
Speaker 1: Can you just say about Kelly that when I sang
Speaker 1: with her, she like whispered to me and she was like,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm doing a right Vegas residency like
Speaker 1: I was like, what my god. It was like she
Speaker 1: like led up to it and like it was like
Speaker 1: this big event, and but she doesn't have time to
Speaker 1: really do a residency because she's doing her own Ellen
Speaker 1: grooming to take over Ellen Talk shows the fucking Voice.
Speaker 1: So it's like, Okay, I understand that it's nine shows,
Speaker 1: and like we're calling it a residency, but I'm here
Speaker 1: for it. I'm here for too, and we're gonna go wait.
Speaker 1: But now that you've brought up Kelly, so can you
Speaker 1: talk about the experience of being on the key this
Speaker 1: is this is huge for me, of course, it's it's
Speaker 1: really new, like it's brand new. So like you can
Speaker 1: tell that they're all still sort of like finding their footing,
Speaker 1: but everybody across the board is like just as like
Speaker 1: bubbly and kind and sweet as she is. You can
Speaker 1: you can tell that, like whatever meeting they had at
Speaker 1: the beginning, it was very important to her that like
Speaker 1: everybody be treated like very kindly. It's very colorful, They're
Speaker 1: it's really sweet. It's definitely very like Middle America, like
Speaker 1: let's talk about the state, let's talk about Jesus. Like
Speaker 1: my other guest on my show is Tyler Perry and
Speaker 1: we were talking a lot about like God's intervention in
Speaker 1: our lives. I don't know if I'm on the same page,
Speaker 1: but like I'm here for all of you. Um, and
Speaker 1: it's yeah, it's very positive, very daytime. Yeah, but wonderful.
Speaker 1: That's what Darcy said. Darcy texted me and Darcy Carton
Speaker 1: was also on the show The Best and so she
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, was justin Kelly Carson show. Thought of
Speaker 1: you the whole time and you should know that she's
Speaker 1: the sweetest person ever. And you know Jill Kim Booster
Speaker 1: is going on I think this week. Yes, you need
Speaker 1: to come with me, And I'm like, I'm not coming
Speaker 1: with on his Sunny Side tour on on Sunny Side. Yes, yes, Um,
Speaker 1: Why what we've talked about this at nauseam. What is
Speaker 1: the ideal scenari for you to ever meet her? You
Speaker 1: cannot keep avoiding them. Yeah, well we'll go to the
Speaker 1: show and then you can meet there is that bad?
Speaker 1: I think? I think here's here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1: You will come with us to Vegas. So I'll go
Speaker 1: to Vegas and then it'll be like, well, Ben Platt
Speaker 1: wants to go back to see Kelly, and then I'll
Speaker 1: be like, well, duh, and so I'll be like I
Speaker 1: guess I'll go, and then maybe I'll go back then
Speaker 1: at that time. But here's the thing. I don't think
Speaker 1: you'd want to be around me, or I don't know
Speaker 1: if I'd want you to be around me when it's
Speaker 1: because I will break down and cry. I I definitely
Speaker 1: I absolutely have to be there to see this. And
Speaker 1: then Ben well of course, right, So the light plans
Speaker 1: are we're going to see her on one of her
Speaker 1: light honestly, light plans. When I say light plans, no
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not a light plan. I can go
Speaker 1: to Vegas. No, no, no, it's a light plan because
Speaker 1: the ticket tar and plot. Okay, so just culture right now,
Speaker 1: right off the top. It's a light plan. When we
Speaker 1: say in April is good for me if it's good
Speaker 1: for you April, Okay, what if we go? What if
Speaker 1: we went on April one itself? Is that the first show? Yeah? Okay, great,
Speaker 1: April were here, were literally here in Vegas. Jared is
Speaker 1: gonna die and you know Jared, I do. I got
Speaker 1: to when he was first like chopping around the amazing
Speaker 1: script that he had when when it was going to
Speaker 1: be like a TV situation. We met and talked about it,
Speaker 1: and I was just a fan of how smart and
Speaker 1: funny and great he's he's a very good boy. And
Speaker 1: you also, yeah, and you see that. And you also
Speaker 1: ran into each other at my favorite place, oil Can, Harris.
Speaker 1: Have you been to Harry's. I've been to one in Austin,
Speaker 1: not the one in l a. It's the only place
Speaker 1: that I can stand to be in Los Angeles. Oh, okay,
Speaker 1: talk about this, talk about this, what's what's what's what's
Speaker 1: it's the same point. It's just like very unadorned, and
Speaker 1: it's very come and be and just like dance and
Speaker 1: have no inhibitions and like not in a place where
Speaker 1: everyone's like daggering me. Yeah, it's like that can happen
Speaker 1: there and has happened there, But that's not like the
Speaker 1: purpose of going. It's so much much freer experience. Also,
Speaker 1: it's in studio city on the street where it's like
Speaker 1: strip malls and everything is closed and it's just oil Can,
Speaker 1: Harry's and nothing else. So it's not like you're going
Speaker 1: to hop from place to place night. And also there's
Speaker 1: like they do a really fun disco night and can
Speaker 1: I tell you who? I ran into a disco night
Speaker 1: at one time. So I'm friends with um Travis Coles
Speaker 1: and Liza Yes the Perfect and Camiko Glem Wow Sam I.
Speaker 1: At the beginning when she was in it, she was great,
Speaker 1: But I've since watched many a YouTube video of her
Speaker 1: when he sees me, which I feel like, is the
Speaker 1: way I love that song, the way in the recording
Speaker 1: she says facts and figures. Yeah, she has this beautiful
Speaker 1: like you're not sure if it's a mix or a belt,
Speaker 1: but it's all in the one place kind of a voice,
Speaker 1: and I really love it. It's like, yeah, it's kind
Speaker 1: of like you you sorry, it's gonna when whenever you're
Speaker 1: around like this is how you know, like we are
Speaker 1: ship singers. It's because whenever you're around like a real singer,
Speaker 1: it's like the sound is like so much smaller than
Speaker 1: you think it's going to be, and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: how it's that easy for you? Like I just did
Speaker 1: we recorded a game show as a series for Quimby
Speaker 1: and our house band. Is this is the joke? Is
Speaker 1: that are the roots? Is this one female singer who's
Speaker 1: a slay, tell me if you remember this person. Her
Speaker 1: name is von Zel Solemn. I think the iconic season
Speaker 1: three second after carrying four. Season four, I'm sorry. Season
Speaker 1: three was of course fantasi a moment um. But she
Speaker 1: like when you listen to her, like when this the
Speaker 1: like recordings of her, you watch her singing American Idol,
Speaker 1: you would think she is like the loudest voice in
Speaker 1: the world. And then I'm around her and I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're like, it's so it's pure and it's not. It's private.
Speaker 1: It's private, and it's it's it's intimate. It's trusting that Mike,
Speaker 1: trusting that Mike, because that's how it makes it sustainable
Speaker 1: to singing. Is you can't you can't always rely on
Speaker 1: your own Okay, Okay, So actually I think it's going
Speaker 1: to be a rule of culture. Rule culture. It's trusting
Speaker 1: that trusting that Mike. Were you because you you start
Speaker 1: you played Winter Up, I did play Win Throw, so
Speaker 1: you were. She's been singing since he was but a child,
Speaker 1: sweet wee child child Like I always think about kids
Speaker 1: singing and how I always think about it's just on
Speaker 1: my way here about a child singing. Singing is not
Speaker 1: no but it's like it's like like where does that
Speaker 1: like when does it become a conscious thing? Is it
Speaker 1: just like you're singing? Right? I I've thought about it.
Speaker 1: I mean I think like it's very instinctual for a
Speaker 1: really long time. And then I just remember doing Oliver
Speaker 1: when I was like seven or eight and singing Wears
Speaker 1: Love and then like hitting the last note and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I know this is a good note. And then I've
Speaker 1: really hit something like that, this is clear, and like
Speaker 1: I've I've reached a register that I like. And then
Speaker 1: from that point on it was like, oh, there's like
Speaker 1: a skill involved. It's beautiful. And then and then all
Speaker 1: I wanted was a vibrato for Christmas. Yeah, honestly, And
Speaker 1: when when did you get your progress Veronica? To be fair, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I got it when I was playing Harold Hill in
Speaker 1: The Music Man when I was eleven years old. Um,
Speaker 1: during seventy six trongd bones that popped out and I
Speaker 1: was like finally wow. And then honestly, you've have to
Speaker 1: say you've kept that gift. Oh my god? And what
Speaker 1: what you were? Like? What hew old are you? When
Speaker 1: that happened eleven years old? Singing you Got Trouble and
Speaker 1: just that's I love that show. I love that when
Speaker 1: I'm sad for Hugh and Sutton. Yeah, you know, I said,
Speaker 1: you know who I saw do the music man, Eric McCormick.
Speaker 1: That's what was my Harold Hill Really Okay, so I
Speaker 1: saw it on Broadway. It was no actually, but no,
Speaker 1: but I would have loved to see that. I saw it.
Speaker 1: Rebecca Luker was mine. Well that's equally gorgeous. Did he
Speaker 1: replace Craig Berco? Is that why? I think so? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But I remember like it was like this, like it
Speaker 1: was Christmas. My parents. We would go until every every
Speaker 1: like Christmas, and we'd see like and I remember we
Speaker 1: were everyone was so excited about Will and then you
Speaker 1: hooked up with Will and Will and Grace kissed him
Speaker 1: on TV Harold Hylen went throp full circle. No, it's great.
Speaker 1: It was like I'm finally grown up, and then I
Speaker 1: just got asked to play a high school student like
Speaker 1: six more times. So then never mind. I fully find
Speaker 1: Eric mccorm to be hot, Yeah, I really do. And
Speaker 1: it's a combination of him actually being very handsome and
Speaker 1: also he's Will, so it's like it's both. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean what he means and what he stands
Speaker 1: for mixed with how actually cute he is. Yes, because
Speaker 1: he's extremely cute and endearing. I've heard very kind, very
Speaker 1: very kind. There was like okay, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: adjust my body to say that. Hettish. There was like
Speaker 1: a magazine cover one time with the four of them
Speaker 1: in like bed sheets, and you remember like me being
Speaker 1: like eleven or twelve, like you saw like Eric McCormick
Speaker 1: and Seawan Hayes is like nipples, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like a little freak. Sean really, Sean really
Speaker 1: did it for me. And still he's still so good looking.
Speaker 1: Um whatever, Still who cares? But like God will and
Speaker 1: grace whatever is happening now, God, God, God blessed. Wait,
Speaker 1: so you were on the first episode of the second
Speaker 1: the first I was this on the second episode? Yes,
Speaker 1: so would we say you were the first guest? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you want to yea, um, that's God. But you're
Speaker 1: but you're not an l a lover. I am not.
Speaker 1: I grew up there until I was like eighteen. I
Speaker 1: went to Jewish day school there in high school on
Speaker 1: top of west Lake with everybody ever and and I
Speaker 1: always kind of knew, I mean on like a superficial
Speaker 1: level that I wanted to come here for the theater
Speaker 1: and like for for being near Broadway and all that.
Speaker 1: But I think also just like energy wise and like
Speaker 1: being an anxious, like neurotic person, I feel like since
Speaker 1: everybody else here is also anxious neurotic, it like feels
Speaker 1: really good. And la, it's like I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: against the grain of everybody being very calm. And yeah,
Speaker 1: also it's very like disparate in l A, like everything
Speaker 1: is very and then New York. You can like make
Speaker 1: the choice every day New York, like, do I want
Speaker 1: to feel like surrounded by a million things and part
Speaker 1: of a giant thing or do I want to feel
Speaker 1: totally anonymous and like isolated? And then la, I feel
Speaker 1: like it's only isolated unless you're gonna like drive half
Speaker 1: an hour and page twenty dollars for parking. The parking
Speaker 1: of it all is but it's really nice all the time.
Speaker 1: So that's nice the way, but the way we just
Speaker 1: distilled that beautiful but truly like, but I haven't heard
Speaker 1: someone like put it in those terms. That's great. Where
Speaker 1: Beanie located here based here, I mean we're both by coastal,
Speaker 1: but it's great to have by visibility. She's here when
Speaker 1: she's not being a full blown movie star. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, did I mean all my best friends are
Speaker 1: in books. It's so and it was incredible. I mean
Speaker 1: it was incredible. I'm just it's amazing to watch her.
Speaker 1: We were best friend since her fourteen, always knew that
Speaker 1: she'd be I think we both like assumed that we
Speaker 1: would just be doing the theater like Broadway thing, and
Speaker 1: we both have which was amazing, and we did at
Speaker 1: the same time, which was great. But now to see
Speaker 1: like all the different things she's doing in the way
Speaker 1: that she's like blowing up as like a film person
Speaker 1: is like. But then I think the first time I,
Speaker 1: I like, I like clocked her was probably Ladybird, of course,
Speaker 1: and they just had along with the nation, we fell
Speaker 1: in love. They had such a good, like lived in relationship,
Speaker 1: and I was like, that's her biggest strength. I think
Speaker 1: he can make everybody, anyone she's working with, feel like
Speaker 1: she's known them forever and inside her not that was
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, but there. Yeah, yeah, you can feel
Speaker 1: like you're inside that's what that's what. No. But but
Speaker 1: Basically my favorite thing about Lady Bird was I felt
Speaker 1: like every single role was so perfectly cast, Like it
Speaker 1: just felt like every single person there like like if
Speaker 1: there should be an Oscar for casting, because even Timmy
Speaker 1: as the French, like, yes, what is that? What does
Speaker 1: he correct her? I mean he's outside the coffee shop
Speaker 1: and she says the name of the book wrong and
Speaker 1: he's like it's called something French. Ye. Yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: the sexiest person I've never seen or whatever. Yeah. He
Speaker 1: actually does be shut up, stop, I hear to have
Speaker 1: you have you seen Little Women yet? No, I'm dying too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's amazing. Yeah, but I just hear that.
Speaker 1: It's like someone tweeted, um, little women suffers from the
Speaker 1: same problem read Lady Bird. Um, it's this beautiful movie
Speaker 1: that like has that expresses all these different things, that
Speaker 1: these ideas that you think could be expressed, and then
Speaker 1: you go back to living your sad, pathetic and then
Speaker 1: you have to go do laundry. Yeah that's what the
Speaker 1: tweet was. Yeah. I was like, oh, that's that. It's true,
Speaker 1: a perfect ad for Little Women. I'm kind of like
Speaker 1: loving the sar shut Timothy like sort of moment that's
Speaker 1: happening where they're in filmically or do you mean like
Speaker 1: you want them to like date? I mean, I guess
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind if they dated, But I love like
Speaker 1: the sort of like um like the way that they're
Speaker 1: being sort of that they do stuff together. I like that.
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of who would be like
Speaker 1: a parallel from the past of like people that consistently
Speaker 1: like like bum free and I'm free and boar. I
Speaker 1: know people are like allergic to Laila Land, but I
Speaker 1: feel like, God, can I say something? I am not
Speaker 1: allerged to thank you very much? And I also know
Speaker 1: we gotta get that. Did that produced that? We got
Speaker 1: to get over it? No. I have said from the
Speaker 1: beginning that I stand Land on this podcast, I also
Speaker 1: in the very beginning. And also people need to be
Speaker 1: less crazy. When there's a movie that you also like
Speaker 1: and then you call the other movie trump, it's like,
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I'm glad we're as a nation
Speaker 1: moving forward. Absolutely, it was such a moment, But I mean, god,
Speaker 1: I'm a she's hosting the met thing. I did? I mean,
Speaker 1: And it's like when we think about fashion, do we
Speaker 1: think about Meryl and then you think about that question,
Speaker 1: You're like kind of yeah, I think about anything it
Speaker 1: can get to Meryl. You know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like maybe one degree of separation for any topic together,
Speaker 1: everything is an estuary to Merrow, absolutely, thank you, because
Speaker 1: esther means that it has salt water in it and
Speaker 1: it leads back to the ocean. And I knew that
Speaker 1: the whole time I said it. Thank you. Um Meryl
Speaker 1: fucking War Remember that year at the Oscars when she
Speaker 1: was nominated for Devil Wars products more like ombre glasses
Speaker 1: and chunky turquoise necklace or some ship and She's just like,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna win, But yeah, what is the what
Speaker 1: is the theme? Oh, it's stick duration. It's like time
Speaker 1: fashion in time. But it's also like inspired by the
Speaker 1: aesthetic of this movie that's very like, uh, it looks
Speaker 1: like a Victor not Victoria. Yes, Marian Toinette, Like everyone's
Speaker 1: just going to come in like those kinds of sounds,
Speaker 1: I guess, and then all the men will just wear tuxed, doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you been a few times. I've been twice. The
Speaker 1: first time I went alone and I was like very
Speaker 1: a place. It was when Evan Hanson was off Broadway,
Speaker 1: and it was only because Anna Winter had come to
Speaker 1: see the show and was like, you should come to Matthon.
Speaker 1: I didn't know a single soul right, and I like
Speaker 1: walked around alone for the whole Cotil hour and then
Speaker 1: left because I was just too intimidated. But then the
Speaker 1: second time I went with Cynthia Rivo and I was
Speaker 1: a little more unbeliefe And it was was that the
Speaker 1: camp one that no, I didn't get to go because
Speaker 1: I was on tour for the camp one. That one
Speaker 1: was like the maybe the Christianity thing, Oh yeah, that
Speaker 1: was I like that. So I just were a suit case.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm very Jewish and I'm not going crosses.
Speaker 1: But anywhere she there's pictures like a gorgeous white thing.
Speaker 1: She had like a head dress moment and jewels, and
Speaker 1: she's she always she never disappoints. What I need to see, Harriet.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet. I know I can't wait.
Speaker 1: I hear she's amazing. Did you I heard it's really good?
Speaker 1: Do you see Jojo Rabbit? No? Okay, did you see
Speaker 1: you have? Grett? I was just saying it's like so good,
Speaker 1: and I was like afraid because like I was afraid.
Speaker 1: It's Nazis is tough, especially when there are Nazis all around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but like it just as perfectly he done and little
Speaker 1: and nothing. There's nothing I love more than a brilliant
Speaker 1: young kid performance. And he's so unbelievably good. Is like
Speaker 1: special special talent, Like really is that what like Jacob
Speaker 1: Tremblay situation, but like a little bit, what's the kid's name, Thomas?
Speaker 1: Isn't that the girl? That's the girl? Yeah, I forget
Speaker 1: his name. I just remember that his dad's like a
Speaker 1: famous DP I think, and like has been done like
Speaker 1: a lot of amazing movies, and like he's always been
Speaker 1: around sets his whole life. We never acted and of
Speaker 1: course he's like magically, yes, he really want to see marriaged.
Speaker 1: I keep getting I need Cato icon no a bomback.
Speaker 1: And also can we say like this moment that is
Speaker 1: happening with Adam Driver where all of a sudden he
Speaker 1: is the superstar literally superstar. But this is the most
Speaker 1: interesting narrative in Hollywood to me, like where he kind
Speaker 1: of girl You're you're relating back to girls? Though, yes,
Speaker 1: because I think about the way he was he was
Speaker 1: a starring girl. He was a starring girls. Amazing. No
Speaker 1: one can be the performance. But to be introduced to
Speaker 1: the mainstream as like the weirdest funck boy in green
Speaker 1: Point and now for him to be Kylo Wren, I
Speaker 1: think that's great anything what do you mean? But like
Speaker 1: that that that's not like Kyla Wren should be the weirdest.
Speaker 1: I'm not disputing it. I'm just saying, like, and so
Speaker 1: should the Monk and whatever weird excent movie he did
Speaker 1: with Andrew Garfield. Yes, yes, yes, that um, but I'm
Speaker 1: just saying, like, it's just so fascinating to me how
Speaker 1: he's made that transition, because he's just like really good act,
Speaker 1: so good, he's so good. I feel like, I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, hopefully, I seem I feel like very encouraged
Speaker 1: that we're moving towards like individuality, weirdness, uniqueess, like what's
Speaker 1: making people big and not just like everybody is Matt
Speaker 1: Damon and Bratt Pitt. Not that we don't love Matt Damon,
Speaker 1: but yeah, that it's nice that especially in musical theater
Speaker 1: and theater. Yeah, well that's also why I feel like
Speaker 1: the reason I always come back to. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just levet theater because I left theater and all all
Speaker 1: of us guys love the theater. But it's also like,
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, like the skill just
Speaker 1: has to win out in the theater because like there's
Speaker 1: just no where to hide, and there's so many places
Speaker 1: to hide on a set of any kind, like on camera,
Speaker 1: like and even be a brilliant like while hiding, like
Speaker 1: in the theater, I feel like it's put upper shot.
Speaker 1: You're out there. That's that feels very real. Yeah, even
Speaker 1: if you have like a strange lazy eye or like, yeah,
Speaker 1: like you still can belt. Yeah, you can still get
Speaker 1: it together. Oh yeah, lazy, I won't get in the
Speaker 1: way of belting. You know, you could have what they
Speaker 1: call a stage face, a face to be seen from
Speaker 1: and being truly iconic. You know, wait, I don't know
Speaker 1: why this person does not have a do you know?
Speaker 1: I just remembered that I saw this person on Broadway
Speaker 1: and gagged for a week. I saw Tony Braxton, and wow,
Speaker 1: is that not iconic I've never seen I never got
Speaker 1: to see. It was good, And I remember I cried
Speaker 1: and felt so emotionally if I did buy Aina and
Speaker 1: we all left and my dad was like, oh, that
Speaker 1: was okay, my mom and my mom goes, My mom goes.
Speaker 1: I was like, I said where I was like, fully twelve.
Speaker 1: I was like, wasn't Tony Braxton amazing? And she was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, she could tell that if she told
Speaker 1: me that, she didn't think so she hurt my feelings. Matthew.
Speaker 1: I think she has a beautiful voice. I just couldn't
Speaker 1: really understand what she was saying, but she has a
Speaker 1: beautiful voice. Well, Heather is similar. Heather is brilliant, just
Speaker 1: a little bit of peanut butter on the roof of
Speaker 1: the manta. So she Have you ever seen the performance
Speaker 1: of her singing memory, Yes, of course, yes. It's that
Speaker 1: kind of thing with girls in the mirrors who like
Speaker 1: aren't great. But she's amazing. She's stunning, and there's a
Speaker 1: moment when she goes Hollo, she's like kind of just
Speaker 1: like really her phrasing is like wow. There's also a
Speaker 1: video of her singing um in the arms of an
Speaker 1: Angel with a giant choir. Have you seen this? And
Speaker 1: at the end she really she goes for it and
Speaker 1: just really eats it, and it's it's as a singer
Speaker 1: really wonderful to see someone as amazing as other headly,
Speaker 1: just go for it and eat it. I want them
Speaker 1: to go for it every single time and honestly, but
Speaker 1: but you tell me, like, when you're like doing a
Speaker 1: show on a Friday night, are you giving it a
Speaker 1: little bit more than you are on a Sunday. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it repends. It's so sites it's like very specific to
Speaker 1: the actual night. It depends who's who I know is
Speaker 1: in the audience. It depends like how many shows are
Speaker 1: left in the because sometimes obviously because it's Friday night
Speaker 1: it's exciting, it is like easier to give more than
Speaker 1: on Sunday. But also Sunday you have thirty six hours
Speaker 1: ahead of you that are free, so like you can
Speaker 1: kind of abandoned. So it depends. I would say, like
Speaker 1: a Wednesday Matt is not ideal to come to unless
Speaker 1: you're like up, yeah, but like you get that little
Speaker 1: discount ticket. There's definitely like an ABC version of the
Speaker 1: show that you have to have, which is like this
Speaker 1: is what I'm doing if I feel completely healthy and
Speaker 1: I have all of the faculties and then be as
Speaker 1: like I'm trying to save a little for something exciting
Speaker 1: at the end of the week and see is like
Speaker 1: I can barely be bothered to be yourself. So like
Speaker 1: when you like very clearly delineated all these scenarios, yeah,
Speaker 1: I spent a lot of times and that wonderful, that
Speaker 1: and that show. So basically wait, wait, hold on, okay,
Speaker 1: So do you usually know when someone notable is coming?
Speaker 1: And do you prefer to know? I asked to know
Speaker 1: so I would receive a like a literally like an
Speaker 1: itemized list before like a half hour every night of
Speaker 1: everyone that was there, because at the beginning it was
Speaker 1: you don't want to go out on stage and then
Speaker 1: see one million percent, Like I don't want to I
Speaker 1: don't want to clock Merril like mid number. And also
Speaker 1: like in that show in particular, like I spend so
Speaker 1: much time just like out at the like out at
Speaker 1: the fourth Wall or whatever, so like I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: and it's a small house, I'm gonna see whoever it is,
Speaker 1: and they're always in the same like nice house seats.
Speaker 1: So I love to have all That's like a theme
Speaker 1: in my life in general, is like I'd like to
Speaker 1: have all the information because anything unknown is far more
Speaker 1: anxiety provoking to me than just like dealing with what
Speaker 1: the actual reality is going to be, and whatever I
Speaker 1: imagine is going to be way worse than like what's
Speaker 1: actually true. So I love to just see like, okay,
Speaker 1: so tonight it's like Ben Stiller and like Hooper great.
Speaker 1: Basically everyone saw that. Every person. I remember, like, I
Speaker 1: think I would see you on your Instagram or like
Speaker 1: maybe it was the Dear of Enhancement Instagram because I
Speaker 1: remember like following it like at the time, because I
Speaker 1: was just like, I won't get tickets to the normal way.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll catch like some inst story or whatever. That's
Speaker 1: just like if you like here at this time, a
Speaker 1: magic elf will give you a ticket, Like I never
Speaker 1: saw it because I couldn't get tickets. I was poor
Speaker 1: at the time too. If only we'd all meant sooner.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, when when you when you do it again,
Speaker 1: I have a bootlega Okay, so I maybe there's there
Speaker 1: may be a scenario where I'm going to do it
Speaker 1: against We'll have to wait and see. Um. But wait,
Speaker 1: I I feel as though Beyonce I had to be
Speaker 1: the number one most intimidating, most intimidating. Yes, yes, with
Speaker 1: a tie and a totally different arena of life with
Speaker 1: Mandy be Tickett. Damn. Of course, of course, because George
Speaker 1: is my number one dream, yes, like forever, and I
Speaker 1: would be amazing. I just have to wait a few
Speaker 1: years till the memory of this jake one phase away
Speaker 1: and then I can give it. But he was great.
Speaker 1: But because he was great exactly, yeah, we have to
Speaker 1: let it have its doum. But that I was really
Speaker 1: scared because I used to watch that PBS like taping
Speaker 1: of Sunning the Park all the time. So those two
Speaker 1: but yeah, Beyonce, Beyonce, I had a warning. I had
Speaker 1: like four days warnings, so I like haircut, had an
Speaker 1: extra voice lesson. I like really was prepared mentally, physically
Speaker 1: because he met her afterwards. I did meet her afterwards.
Speaker 1: She came backstage. Was that brief it was it was
Speaker 1: like four to five minutes, but she had just had
Speaker 1: the twins like a month ago. She was like glowing
Speaker 1: and her boobs looked amazing most the most like woman
Speaker 1: version of mother, like just and she was wonderful and
Speaker 1: everybody was like really paralyzed by her. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: because you just don't know what, like, what do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do? She she is the icon, this
Speaker 1: is this is this is just such a dumb weird share.
Speaker 1: But when when jay Z hosted or not Jaz when
Speaker 1: j was musical guest a couple of seasons ago. It
Speaker 1: was when Solange was musical guests. Yes, um, she came
Speaker 1: to the after party because because I went to that
Speaker 1: show and then she and jay Z walked through and
Speaker 1: everyone like, the whole room stops. But when she passes you,
Speaker 1: but you feel something, You feel an energy and energy
Speaker 1: crazy anyway you want to do? You want to know
Speaker 1: one celebrity I saw in person one time and I
Speaker 1: felt an energy. At the time, I was like that
Speaker 1: person is a superstar and now saying it is fully crazy.
Speaker 1: I'll touch on Gina later. Um, remember I'm a breast
Speaker 1: to this drama. But continued Jessica Simpson. Wow, I believe
Speaker 1: that I went to a concert. I was sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: I was straight, straight presenting. I was at an Ashley
Speaker 1: Simpson concert, was my first of two. And I turned
Speaker 1: around and there was Jessica Simpson like standing like by
Speaker 1: the tech booth in this little rope stuff area and
Speaker 1: she was luminous. Yeah, and I was just like, that's
Speaker 1: a star. Yeah, and then two years later like then
Speaker 1: now she like runs her empire. I think it doesn't
Speaker 1: really do much, but she's like, she's like like a
Speaker 1: formidable person. At the time, I was like, that's what
Speaker 1: it's like to be in the presence of a superstar
Speaker 1: there looks like And then I got a picture with
Speaker 1: her dad, who is gay. Now I know I know
Speaker 1: who was like dating like twink models. Really yes, oh
Speaker 1: my god, this is like a thing. He was like
Speaker 1: he was like a pastor or something. And then like
Speaker 1: later on in year and she was like her thing
Speaker 1: was like the chastity of it all. And then later
Speaker 1: on I'm so sorry, I caught Boone on the shirt
Speaker 1: behind you just giving me this what. I didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: He's looking at the stage. Oh, just doing my face, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: with them on it, and I just noticed. I was
Speaker 1: just feeling very this is the seakh culture T shirt.
Speaker 1: And then I want you to know that Boe has
Speaker 1: designed the shirt. It's gorgeous. Think truly just did. But
Speaker 1: we should we should get we should let the readers
Speaker 1: be able to buy this. I know they're limited editions
Speaker 1: to show exclusive though it exclusive, you can have one.
Speaker 1: Speaking of your fashion yes, what was that. That's that's
Speaker 1: sweater that you've been wearing recently. It's like yellow on
Speaker 1: the top with the v oh. Oh, yes it's His
Speaker 1: name is Victor Glamad. It's or to the CFD, a
Speaker 1: thing where it's like a bunch of like upcoming young designers.
Speaker 1: And I have a stylist his names Jason Rembert, and
Speaker 1: I just do what he tells me to do because
Speaker 1: you working really great, like when you were doing the
Speaker 1: pressure of the Politician. You've been looking stunting and also
Speaker 1: you are coking, rocking highwaysted. Oh yes, it's it's changed
Speaker 1: my life. I have such a pooch and it's just
Speaker 1: like I feel so much better. It just it just
Speaker 1: makes everything feel better. I feel like freer, I can
Speaker 1: eat what I want. It's great. See I've been like
Speaker 1: a low rise bitch for for too long and now
Speaker 1: and now as I approach thirty, I'm getting a pooch.
Speaker 1: But there's nothing to my whole family. All the men
Speaker 1: in my family are shaped this way, so like regardless
Speaker 1: of how so you can see your future. Emay see
Speaker 1: that I tried to It's like no, it's just here. Yes,
Speaker 1: So that was that sweater was to like whear, to
Speaker 1: like show off this guy who was being who was
Speaker 1: like being celebrated, so it was his event to celebrate him.
Speaker 1: Well a bunch of people. You know, uh, you know
Speaker 1: he just said that, Victor. I'm telling you you, I
Speaker 1: know I'm listening. I'm just doing I'm connecting different times.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I know you're listening. I know you're listening.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like this sweater, and I know that
Speaker 1: Ben Platt was wearing it, but these are these I
Speaker 1: feel it was a very mat Roger's sweater. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: it was a very what mat Rogers. It was something
Speaker 1: I would wear, and so I might be thank you,
Speaker 1: I might be sending a text message to Mr Glamas
Speaker 1: r M. I'm sure he would love to dress you
Speaker 1: sweater your friend event one day when I pop off. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's been very fun to where things that actually make
Speaker 1: me feel excited and happy and not just have to
Speaker 1: be like I'm in a suit because I'm trying to
Speaker 1: convince everyone that I'm a leading man. No, but you
Speaker 1: it's a it's a fashion it's been a fashion event.
Speaker 1: It's fun and speaking of fashion event, just like the
Speaker 1: way like the politician like looks. The fashion, it's that's
Speaker 1: got to be so funmu and costuming has to feel
Speaker 1: like a dream, particularly the costumes. The Claire Parkinson, who's
Speaker 1: the costume desentner, is the only kind of major crew
Speaker 1: member that we're bringing over to season two because it's
Speaker 1: all New York people this time, because we're shooting in
Speaker 1: New York. Yes, obviously everyone in the agreement that we
Speaker 1: could not veer from the clothing because it was so
Speaker 1: well great. But it's great. I mean, she's she gives
Speaker 1: us such like particular like human beings to be. Like,
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of us didn't really fully
Speaker 1: understand who we were until we like went in and
Speaker 1: started putting on all these clothes. And she's very everybody
Speaker 1: gets a very particular flavor, and everybody gets to be
Speaker 1: like somewhat aspirational, even if it's like a really bizarre way. Sure,
Speaker 1: but I love it. I get to wear nice suits
Speaker 1: all the time and glasses, and I always have wished
Speaker 1: that I needed glasses, but I don't. Thank you so much,
Speaker 1: very good. And all of my siblings use glasses or
Speaker 1: contacts and the only one doesn't, So I think I
Speaker 1: feel like a weird complex about it, even though even
Speaker 1: though it's a good is actually a crutch back. It's
Speaker 1: keeping abound. I'm just trying to raise awareness. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Bowen is the king of glasses, but the cop But truly,
Speaker 1: Like the more the more I like see how departments
Speaker 1: work around around stuff like this, the more I'm like
Speaker 1: costumes and wardrobe are like huge, but they have to you.
Speaker 1: It's this, it's the first thing people see. It has
Speaker 1: to communicate so much. And also like the way things
Speaker 1: look on camera is so different than the way they
Speaker 1: look in real life. Like we just we just did
Speaker 1: game show for Quimby, and like we had eight different
Speaker 1: books and I didn't realize what the word more raying is.
Speaker 1: Like they came over to me and he's like, they're like,
Speaker 1: he's more raying. I was like, do I have to
Speaker 1: like go back to make up and it's like the
Speaker 1: two small pattern things. Yeah, it's like something when it's
Speaker 1: like it's it's vibrating on screen. Yeah, yeah, it just
Speaker 1: creates like a like a weird static. But the club
Speaker 1: but like literally when I said you could take a
Speaker 1: bite out of the show, I mean like the show
Speaker 1: looks like delicious yeah, it'll be more of that. We
Speaker 1: love that, like a more of an East Coast de
Speaker 1: fall kind of at this time, but but a lot
Speaker 1: of the same and plus Judith in that. Yeah, not
Speaker 1: for nothing. I saw I saw your I saw your
Speaker 1: tweet or is the instagram about just working with Judith? Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: it was the best. I was having like a iffy
Speaker 1: week and then we had to finally got our first
Speaker 1: day together and like it was just it solved all
Speaker 1: of my problems and made all of my worries go away.
Speaker 1: And Bet is just brilliant and Bet is there too.
Speaker 1: Bet is there too, let me tell you. And Bet
Speaker 1: and I just saying together with Beanie at this like
Speaker 1: Halloween Haulloueen and your Halloween thank you. Oh my god. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's I mean, that's like every thing you hope, like
Speaker 1: like constantly in the middle of a vodvillact like at
Speaker 1: all times, you know what I mean, just like a
Speaker 1: Pratt fall could happen at any time, just exactly, and
Speaker 1: just like calling herself a home and just like it's
Speaker 1: she's the best on the Twitter, Twitter, on her people
Speaker 1: to people Twitter. But y'all need to get on board
Speaker 1: between we have more Gwanathan season two. Yes, everybody is
Speaker 1: back except Jessica was a one season situation, right, uh,
Speaker 1: and we've added obviously to that, but everyone else is back. Great.
Speaker 1: Was that your first time working with Ryan? Yes, it
Speaker 1: was great. It was I mean I loved Glee the
Speaker 1: way everybody else loved. I went to see the tour
Speaker 1: at two different stops. Wow, naturally and also Spring Awakening
Speaker 1: was like my shame music. That was like my rent whatever.
Speaker 1: Evan Hans so Leah, I was big on Leah. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget the first time I saw Lea Michelle when
Speaker 1: the Worse performance, when you're saying, Mama, who bore me?
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I was like, I was like, we're
Speaker 1: going to be seeing a lot of her. She just
Speaker 1: something happened on camera, like that's there's something very interesting
Speaker 1: going on. And then a few years later to bravely
Speaker 1: sort of parade throughout Radio city singing during my parade,
Speaker 1: so many people are present, like that deserves commendation, AC
Speaker 1: and also a scary thing to do, and that sound great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she's I think she's she's stunning. Jonathan Groff
Speaker 1: is my celebrity question mine too? Oh, I've tried, and
Speaker 1: I've tried, We've all tried. Yeah, we're gonna fin Actually
Speaker 1: we met him, we interviewed him at Vulture Festival, and
Speaker 1: we had we were doing like a bit with every
Speaker 1: guest because we're dumb, we're not actual journalists, were very
Speaker 1: stupid ask people questions like we were like nobody any
Speaker 1: of those things actually wants to answer any questions, just
Speaker 1: want to play again. And so everyone usually liked us.
Speaker 1: But John John Jonathan was there ter Um. They were
Speaker 1: there um doing press for mind Hunter, and so it
Speaker 1: kind of wasn't really the vibe like anatur was there
Speaker 1: and like you know, the other cast members, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure their name is like serious acious actors. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: in my notes was like I was going to ask him, um,
Speaker 1: what would you do if you found out someone had
Speaker 1: a crush? And then he like asked you what he
Speaker 1: said and then be like and then he's like, what
Speaker 1: if someone had a crush? I knew that was like
Speaker 1: right here, right now, and I was gonna be like
Speaker 1: I was gonna shoot my shot into a cute bit
Speaker 1: with it and then maybe like thanks for doing that anyway.
Speaker 1: My name is Matt and damn me, why did you
Speaker 1: do it because he was he I will say, the
Speaker 1: other guy hijacked the conversation totally. And then but I
Speaker 1: will I will remember. I will say that Jonathan was
Speaker 1: very just like so just like easy going and was
Speaker 1: just like, oh, just like very like huh like just
Speaker 1: just was just like getting picking up on our body
Speaker 1: that we were not like typical journalists, and he was
Speaker 1: just kind of like adjusting to that, and he might
Speaker 1: have been a little out. It was it was just
Speaker 1: like a little bit of an awkward view. He nothing
Speaker 1: he did, but I remember he did have a really
Speaker 1: good handshake and contact during the handshake, and I was like,
Speaker 1: you know, exactly how hot you are. He's frustrating he does.
Speaker 1: And also he's he's a lovely person and also very
Speaker 1: inspiring in the sense that like he did this like
Speaker 1: incredibly specifically gay kind of graphic amazing show. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: that was like a straight up straight leading man on
Speaker 1: like a David Fincher beautiful drama and just it's amazing,
Speaker 1: and it's it's encouraging to see that, Yeah, he's done
Speaker 1: so much ship because he's like he's done. He's definitely
Speaker 1: publicly been you know, out and proud gay like did
Speaker 1: gay Roles, but also you're right, Mine Hunter Minor has
Speaker 1: its fans. Also Frozen will pay for whatever you want
Speaker 1: the rest of his life. And I just saw him
Speaker 1: do Seymour and he was great, a little bit more
Speaker 1: like hotter than most like still hilarious and sounded like
Speaker 1: a dream. And I just saw I just saw Little
Speaker 1: Shop in Pasadena. How was it? It was good. It
Speaker 1: was really cute and um MJ was great and our
Speaker 1: friend Matt Wilkes was amazing. He was the dentist and
Speaker 1: he also did like a bunch of littler parts and
Speaker 1: it was really sort of like a showcase for his skills,
Speaker 1: Like he's really funny comedic actor. And that was the
Speaker 1: first time I had seen him on stage. I didn't
Speaker 1: really know he was. I didn't know he came from
Speaker 1: he was He's a real sweet and his stuff online
Speaker 1: is so funny. I love the man dan Um. But
Speaker 1: it was I had never seen Little Shop on stage,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how it ended. It is. We
Speaker 1: won't spoil for anyone that doesn't know how it ends,
Speaker 1: but let's just say it's actually out of control, insane.
Speaker 1: What happens. They're making a film now a little shop. Yes, really,
Speaker 1: who's in? I don't know? Do you not know? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'll say this, I sadly wish that I
Speaker 1: did know, but I sadly and decidedly do not know.
Speaker 1: You decidedly do not decidedly? Well, that is foolish of
Speaker 1: them to not well that they would. What can you do?
Speaker 1: That feels like such a stupid thing? Oh wait, really quickly? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's because you guys shot some of Merrily already? Right,
Speaker 1: we did shoot some of Mary too much. No, it's okay.
Speaker 1: It was so wonderful. I mean, it's like crazy. It's
Speaker 1: also like a lot of people don't really know what
Speaker 1: merely rolls. Actually it's a pretty so you know it's
Speaker 1: on time? Yeah, And it's about it's it's about these
Speaker 1: three friends in the fifties who meet and they're in
Speaker 1: college and like two of them are writers, one of
Speaker 1: them is a composer, and they become like best best friends.
Speaker 1: It's two guys, one girl, and they over time like
Speaker 1: the composing duo, the two guys that become really successful
Speaker 1: and like the woman sort of uh like deals with
Speaker 1: like alcoholism and like they become like really jaded and
Speaker 1: they girl apart and like all this ship over the
Speaker 1: course of eighteen years, and it's the show happens backwards,
Speaker 1: so like it starts and you meet them when they're
Speaker 1: like in their forties and they hate each other and
Speaker 1: like two of them don't even speak, and then like
Speaker 1: every sequence there's nine sequences moved backwards a few years,
Speaker 1: and then by the end they're like these naive, idealistic
Speaker 1: best friends will love each other. So it's like really
Speaker 1: upsetting and heartbreaking but very beautiful. But the issue on
Speaker 1: stage has always been like either there's people at to
Speaker 1: begin playing like way too old and you don't really
Speaker 1: believe them, or there's people at the end playing like
Speaker 1: young college kids and you're like, no, you're not. So
Speaker 1: this is the way. So I really think this is
Speaker 1: like has the potential to like solve some of the issues.
Speaker 1: And because the score has always beautiful, there's always been
Speaker 1: great large Yeah that's the beautiful that's what we did
Speaker 1: because that's the last first sequence. Um, but it's great. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we'll follow the map of the show, like it
Speaker 1: starts in fifty seven and seventy something, and so like
Speaker 1: if there's three years between a sequence, then will wait
Speaker 1: three years or if there's two years, so you are
Speaker 1: doing the like period of it all. Yeah, it takes
Speaker 1: place starting in fifty seven, and then we'll follow because
Speaker 1: then whatever the world is in twenty whatever it comes out,
Speaker 1: it's still the periods will have remained. This very smart
Speaker 1: um God, and that's that's that's perfect for link Later.
Speaker 1: It's perfect for you guys. And it's the fact that
Speaker 1: it's being A and I together is also just like
Speaker 1: truly bananas that just gives us an excuse every few
Speaker 1: years to hang out. Not that we don't hang out
Speaker 1: every day, but it's like how fortunate that is is that?
Speaker 1: But like God, link Later, Like I, what are my
Speaker 1: favorite directors? I think School of Rock is when movies
Speaker 1: Absolutely We just talked about School of Rock with at
Speaker 1: length with Heidie Gardner. It's like, I listened, we love
Speaker 1: that movie. Before we go any further, I just have
Speaker 1: to shout out the person that turned me onto this
Speaker 1: podcast way too late. Her name is Francesca Carpannini. She's
Speaker 1: a very brilliant actress. She was just in All my
Speaker 1: Son's on Broadway with a net bending Oh my god.
Speaker 1: That and she is a big lover of both the show. Later,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I said, who's who are you coming
Speaker 1: to the show? Noah? Oh my god, oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank god, we know who's in the audience for our show.
Speaker 1: So wait, I didn't get to meet Noah after the
Speaker 1: show that I saw him in because that was the
Speaker 1: night that that engine backfired in times. So Jared and
Speaker 1: I were going backstage just say hey to Noah because
Speaker 1: and he was so it was the thing where people
Speaker 1: started banging on the door of the theater and stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so basically like this engine backfire. My sister was there
Speaker 1: and I really waitress, Oh my god, Well that was
Speaker 1: a great performance. And also, by the way, sidebar, but
Speaker 1: you know who I really want to see do it?
Speaker 1: Who's in it right now? Jordan's Of course I did.
Speaker 1: I thought it's one of the better renditions. Okay, we
Speaker 1: love Jordan's. You know who does I think my favorite
Speaker 1: rendition of it? Yeah, like Sarah. I feel so insane
Speaker 1: for saying this, Jeremy Jordan's. Oh, Jeremy Jordan does such
Speaker 1: as been fun. I'm gonna have um no, But I
Speaker 1: mean Sarah is Sarah? So do you love his It's
Speaker 1: all coming back to me now then also, I actually
Speaker 1: I do love It's off back to me. Now, I
Speaker 1: like that, and I like this. I don't usually stand
Speaker 1: Jeremy Jordan's, but I have these two performances that I saw.
Speaker 1: I like, I'm absolutely obsessed with because I usually just
Speaker 1: love my lady is singing and you, of course, um,
Speaker 1: but you're one of my ladies though good. But miss
Speaker 1: Gendering Ben It's okay. Controversy um no, but um Jordan's
Speaker 1: like rips it apart, right. Yeah. I was going to
Speaker 1: go backstage to say hey to Noah, who I haven't met,
Speaker 1: and then that thing backfired in Jared and I had
Speaker 1: to run to tenth Avenue and getting a taxicab because
Speaker 1: we were positives that something was going down. And that's
Speaker 1: the fucking world is. Like we saw people running from
Speaker 1: Times Square and we were just like, yep, cool, we
Speaker 1: gotta go. We know what everyone was just like keyed
Speaker 1: in the world we live in. That is the current world.
Speaker 1: Every time I go see a movie, I like check
Speaker 1: where the exits are and try to sit near them.
Speaker 1: And horrible last night for our show at we did
Speaker 1: game show last night at the Grammarcity Theater at midnight
Speaker 1: and we were getting like in order to get in,
Speaker 1: we got like fully wanted and everything. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm happy this is happening, like
Speaker 1: because you just never know. Oh my god, not to
Speaker 1: turn it in this direction. Wait, I was just gonna
Speaker 1: say before Sunrise, Sunset and I and before Midnight that
Speaker 1: that trilogy link later, Yeah, girl before Sunrise, before Sunset,
Speaker 1: before midnight for midnight. Um like perfect, beautiful, lean concise
Speaker 1: films like and boy, I fucking was obsessed with boys beautiful,
Speaker 1: took it, took it to took it. Took my parents
Speaker 1: to see it, and they, like are two very culturally
Speaker 1: averse people in general, and they just like, my dad
Speaker 1: hates movies, except he loves share. He loves he loves share.
Speaker 1: He just doesn't like like films or places like why
Speaker 1: are people doing that? Like whatever. I can't explain it
Speaker 1: to him, but boyhood, he was just like, So I
Speaker 1: think like with like Merrily, it's like that's that thing
Speaker 1: again where it's like you the passage of time it's happening.
Speaker 1: It's so powerful, it really is, especially if there's the
Speaker 1: right reason to do it. But it is the right reason.
Speaker 1: It's not a gimmick, it's not. That's what's nice about
Speaker 1: this particular one is that, like I really think it
Speaker 1: actually is like asking to be this kind of thing,
Speaker 1: and he just seems like a really easy going guy,
Speaker 1: the loveliest, like sweetest, not stoner stoner, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like all the energy of one without actually
Speaker 1: being One's amazing. The thing about Stoner's, because I can say,
Speaker 1: because I'm one of them, is we are not low
Speaker 1: key people. No, we're not. We smoke And because are
Speaker 1: you a stoner? Now? Okay? Can I ask you a questions?
Speaker 1: Do you find singing? Unfortunately I can't. I mean while
Speaker 1: I'm working in general, it's too hard because like unless
Speaker 1: it's for writing music and which it's very helpful, but
Speaker 1: like doing any kind of show or shooting or anything
Speaker 1: like that, it's just I get to like hypochondriacle about
Speaker 1: my voice and stuff, especially for pronouncing that I've had
Speaker 1: to learn. He literally he actually read through the dictionary
Speaker 1: before coming. Thank you for doing that. Um. But then
Speaker 1: but then like like now, like this is like a
Speaker 1: lull where you get to smoke more. Yeah, like on
Speaker 1: days when I'm not shooting or like when I'm working
Speaker 1: with co writers and stuff, and I feel like being
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, like it's so dry there that like
Speaker 1: I feel completely insane, And so for those shows that
Speaker 1: I'm doing in this but I'm like already worried about
Speaker 1: it because it's like water water water, water, water water, water,
Speaker 1: like throw drives you the funk out, and none of
Speaker 1: that water water water, and there's no replacement for water.
Speaker 1: I even tried doing coconut water instead of water for
Speaker 1: a while and that was not the move. What about
Speaker 1: the whole honey and tea of it all in a
Speaker 1: very particular situation, it's nice, it's I find it's more
Speaker 1: for just like my own sensation, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like for me to feel like everything's going well.
Speaker 1: It doesn't actually make everything go well, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Like if I'm hydrated and I'm warmed up,
Speaker 1: then like regardless of whether I drank the tea or not,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna sound the same, but I'll maybe feel nicer
Speaker 1: when you drink the cheese. So by all means, actually,
Speaker 1: Manuka honey is really good honey. That's like actually medically
Speaker 1: like good good for like staying well and like fancy nutrition.
Speaker 1: It's a flower New Zealand. A lot of it is
Speaker 1: okayphy and the flowers grown in New Zealand, but most
Speaker 1: of it's important from New Zealand and um the beast plant,
Speaker 1: and there's all these like crazy crazy crazy anybodies and
Speaker 1: all these good things. You. Yeah, hoplefits with high content.
Speaker 1: I honestly think a lot of his mind over matter
Speaker 1: for me, where it's just like if I'm fixating and
Speaker 1: like worried about the way that my throat feels, it's
Speaker 1: like I'll be insane and then all you have to
Speaker 1: do is drink water and like because sometimes I'll like,
Speaker 1: remember when I was in college and I was like,
Speaker 1: whenever I was doing a show, I would always like
Speaker 1: drink a lot of vanilla chi because I like the
Speaker 1: way it made my throat feeling. I'm like, well, now
Speaker 1: my voice is healthy because I've had my chie It's
Speaker 1: like milk. Dary is detrimental and darius detrimental. Do you
Speaker 1: write a culture number seventy is detrimental? Do you find
Speaker 1: yourself like when when you're singing, are you also dieting? Yes? Well,
Speaker 1: I yes, I mean I think there's two different times
Speaker 1: at which I'm dieting. One is like for for like,
Speaker 1: what's going to help me saying like no dairy, you know,
Speaker 1: like acidic stuff like for like cook and ship in
Speaker 1: my throat. But then there's also just like the we
Speaker 1: live in a world of Lucas Hedges and Timmy Challa
Speaker 1: may dieting where it's like I have to be a
Speaker 1: small wave where it's like I don't like that part.
Speaker 1: But I mean, is Lucas Hudges really really slender? I
Speaker 1: mean not unhealthily neither of them are? They both are
Speaker 1: you know, beautiful, and how like it's just like you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's like there's no like it's
Speaker 1: hard for them to be a space between like a
Speaker 1: built man and like like a little bit yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm like I live very much in between, so I'm
Speaker 1: always feeling like I need to be leaning into one.
Speaker 1: And I'm also always playing a eighteen year old so
Speaker 1: as soon as that's done, I feel like that will change.
Speaker 1: With probably season two of Yes Politician. I'm now twenty three,
Speaker 1: so it's like whatever, like I can have stubble, this
Speaker 1: is great and how old you actually? Um? And then
Speaker 1: I think I'm done except for one possible thing, going
Speaker 1: to high school forever. I think. I wonder what that got.
Speaker 1: I wonder where that could be bit okay, title of that,
Speaker 1: I what that could be? Beat? I wonder what dot
Speaker 1: dot bitch. I wasn't gonna ask. I was gonna ask something. Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was not gonna I was just
Speaker 1: gonna volunteer this. Um, And you guys don't have to
Speaker 1: reactually at all. UM, I can't fucking smoke anymore. I
Speaker 1: smoked for the first time in months last night, and
Speaker 1: like it just and drank and truly was never more
Speaker 1: nauseous on the combo is it? It can go either way,
Speaker 1: You guys just gotta take it. I got crost fated.
Speaker 1: But then it was also like, yeah, hand smoked weed
Speaker 1: in months, and then it was just that mixed with like,
Speaker 1: does it generally like fan the flames of your anxiety?
Speaker 1: Do you find make you more? Because it can go
Speaker 1: both ways. Both ways. For me, it's either like this
Speaker 1: was a bad idea and I have to abort, like
Speaker 1: as soon as possible, it's like this was everything I wanted. Well,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's like I remember back in my days when
Speaker 1: I was like single, I found like it could really
Speaker 1: kind of like use you into situations and then others.
Speaker 1: Then I was like in a more bad place than
Speaker 1: that didn't work, and I was like, you have to leave,
Speaker 1: you have to leave my apartment and I'm sorry. And
Speaker 1: then so then I was like, okay, so this doesn't
Speaker 1: do just one thing for me. It's fully matt and
Speaker 1: fully just as like what mind space you're in, and
Speaker 1: also not for nothing. But the indica versus the Tiva
Speaker 1: of it all is huge. We can't pretend that it's
Speaker 1: not a huge differ. It's a different experience. It's a
Speaker 1: completely different thing. And like I just can't take anyone
Speaker 1: to weed anymore. Now now I'm like the kind of
Speaker 1: like medical stone er, like Apple store medman of it.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, and what strain is this? And where
Speaker 1: did we get it? And where is it? Excuse me?
Speaker 1: And generally I feel like I feel like I need
Speaker 1: to be either I enjoy doing it alone, but also
Speaker 1: like if I'm going to be with people's people that
Speaker 1: I actually have to know no, yes, because I can't
Speaker 1: be any kind of filtered human being. No, Like like
Speaker 1: drinking is fine with people like that I find is
Speaker 1: very like you can ease, it loosens you up, but
Speaker 1: weed is like we we does any different. It's like
Speaker 1: it makes you like it, it puts you up. That
Speaker 1: is pointing from like a little bit around the arch
Speaker 1: of his eyebrows and putting down Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
Speaker 1: I wish you could see it misplaced contour like about
Speaker 1: yeah on contour, but like, um, I am now, I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm now dating the biggest sowner I've ever met life.
Speaker 1: You're always so emphatic about that's all you do. Smoke
Speaker 1: every day, and I like have been around some legendary
Speaker 1: like people that just like our functional functionally addicted to weed.
Speaker 1: Jared he smokes all the time, and he's so productively
Speaker 1: and so yeah, I can only be productive if it's
Speaker 1: like a situation where I'm not being pressured to be productive.
Speaker 1: So if it's like I have a day where I'm
Speaker 1: with like a friend of mine who I write songs with,
Speaker 1: and I know that, like we could write a song
Speaker 1: today if we want. Then we smoke, and like that's great,
Speaker 1: and it sometimes leads to and it's something amazing. Words
Speaker 1: sometimes lead just like a completely bizarre song about like
Speaker 1: my grandfather. But if it's like if I'm smoke and
Speaker 1: going into like you have this many hours to accomplish
Speaker 1: something that it's gonna be. Sometimes I think, I don't
Speaker 1: know why I think this, but sometimes I think that
Speaker 1: smoking will help me learn lines. Like Okay, I can
Speaker 1: reveal that because I did not get the part, but
Speaker 1: I just um the ANNADELVI Shonda Rhymes show, Yeah, Netflix,
Speaker 1: and like it was truly it was fun to do
Speaker 1: because it was like Shonda Dialogue. It was like five
Speaker 1: or six pages of like, was there a lot of
Speaker 1: excellent gratuitous case X in it? There was not. I
Speaker 1: didn't I'd have to put myself on tape doing that. Um.
Speaker 1: But like basically it was just like a lot of crazy,
Speaker 1: like exactly what you think her scripts are gonna be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was like I run it a bunch, and
Speaker 1: then I was like maybe if I smoke, and it's
Speaker 1: like and then it's such a stoner mentality, which like,
Speaker 1: well maybe if I smoke, it's just like, no, you
Speaker 1: just wanted to smoke to baill. I think in the
Speaker 1: context of like if you already have learned it, like
Speaker 1: in a normal mind and like worked on it, and
Speaker 1: then sometimes like if I like learn lines for the show,
Speaker 1: and like I'm like getting ready to do it, Like
Speaker 1: in a couple of days, I will get high and
Speaker 1: then like just try and like recording myself doing it
Speaker 1: high and see, like, out of the nine like hundred
Speaker 1: weird bizarre choices I make, maybe one of them is interesting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you will find something, but only if I've already actually
Speaker 1: learned it, because if I only learned it high, then
Speaker 1: I'll remember a weird version, right right, it's not. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's like psychedelics where you have to send an intention
Speaker 1: where it's like you you set the parameters down, You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll just record myself saying this, and maybe something cool
Speaker 1: comes out of it instead of just being like okay, um,
Speaker 1: I need to learn lines, so that's the express purpose
Speaker 1: and then you just don't. It's also just so funny,
Speaker 1: what like I learned all the lines that I was
Speaker 1: doing this with Gerald, like he was reading with me,
Speaker 1: and I had I had this whole choice I was
Speaker 1: doing like I like had beats planned out and everything,
Speaker 1: and then I smoked and then I read the lines
Speaker 1: and I was kind of like dropped in like all
Speaker 1: of a sudden doing it like this, and he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: whatever this is is like not so if you're going
Speaker 1: to now change into like this high serpent to your
Speaker 1: becoming with like bedroom minds, that's not what you should do.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, wow, or maybe that's the
Speaker 1: choice that would have gone either room. And honestly, I
Speaker 1: should have done it more like that. I should have
Speaker 1: done it more like a gay snake, which is a type.
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, the whole tribe on grind it's close
Speaker 1: to a gas Lytheran, but not quite. Yes, gays Lytherans
Speaker 1: they're out there, not necessarily raven claw. That's fantasis. That
Speaker 1: totally trapped. Say what you are hufflepuffin proud? I'm a hufflebuff. Two,
Speaker 1: that's what I That's what I got. Yeah, I'm a hufflebuff.
Speaker 1: But can I say you my trajectory? Of course? Sure?
Speaker 1: I was born a griffin door. Oh wow, what does
Speaker 1: that mean? Born a griffin? I was born a griffin
Speaker 1: door and I was at birth. I was like, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say, they put a tiny one. You know, No,
Speaker 1: I was born in you can imagine I was, you
Speaker 1: are well, I was born in I think it was.
Speaker 1: I wasn't on the Long Island. Okay, yeah, so local
Speaker 1: not sign what is your birthday? What's your scorpio sign sign?
Speaker 1: My scorpio sign is Libra. Okay, very scale September. I'm
Speaker 1: on the cost I'm lib You're a libricosum Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: not Pisces. So basically I was born a griffin door.
Speaker 1: In my early twenties, I was a slytherind and now
Speaker 1: I'm a hufflepuff. But I will die at raven Cloth.
Speaker 1: All right, So you're sort of cheating, yeah, because you
Speaker 1: just wanted like a bit of everything. I think that
Speaker 1: in my heart, I've always been the hufflepuff, and I
Speaker 1: am a hufflepuff. You are, yeah, but I have a
Speaker 1: griffin properties. I'm not sorry about saying. Let me so
Speaker 1: do I but I'm not nearly courageous enough in general
Speaker 1: to be a griffin. I guess that doesn't make your
Speaker 1: griffin door. Then the whole point of these alignments is
Speaker 1: that it's it's too It's just it's for you and
Speaker 1: me to say that we are not multituded as people,
Speaker 1: that we are one thing, and for you to just
Speaker 1: jump around and think that you can like it's it's
Speaker 1: cheating the system. Fine, I would say that I am
Speaker 1: a hufflepuff, thank you Okay, there you go good to
Speaker 1: centric degrees. Wow, well that's huge. That is huge. Isn't
Speaker 1: that sad that that's the only Hufflepuff character you can
Speaker 1: really say? I will say like, I think it was
Speaker 1: really cool of J. K Rowling to like throw ful
Speaker 1: puff of bone. Yeah. I'm like, well, you guys have
Speaker 1: and he's amazing, and he's like everyone wants to do him,
Speaker 1: and Cho chengg is like wants him and not Harry
Speaker 1: who's a griffin door. I have a question when you
Speaker 1: did you do you read the books of absolutely when
Speaker 1: you think to the books or if you've ever for
Speaker 1: some reason read a part of the books or the books.
Speaker 1: Since the movies have existed, do you see the people
Speaker 1: from the movies in your mind or do you see
Speaker 1: your own versions of the character. That is so interesting,
Speaker 1: very interesting now I see them, But I remember when
Speaker 1: the movies were like introduced to me, I was like
Speaker 1: a little angry because I had such a specific vision
Speaker 1: in my mind of what it was and there were
Speaker 1: like real people in my mind. I don't know where
Speaker 1: they came from, but I very clearly saw it. And
Speaker 1: this is also very weird, But I remember at the
Speaker 1: time of reading the Harry Potter books. The song That's
Speaker 1: the Way It Is by Celine Dion was like huge,
Speaker 1: So I would always listen to that song and there'll
Speaker 1: be like a music video in my head of like Hermiami,
Speaker 1: like hitting around with a pillow and like I'm having
Speaker 1: times very three company. I don't know, it's a very
Speaker 1: psychotic thing in my brain, but like I associate that's
Speaker 1: the way it is with the Harry Potter books. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm realizing we didn't do what
Speaker 1: I didn't spend the question we can have, we can
Speaker 1: ask the questions, but we're having We're having such a
Speaker 1: grand time, and I think this actually might be the answer.
Speaker 1: What what was the culture that made you? Said culture
Speaker 1: was for you? Whoa? Because they know you're a Harry Whoa. Okay,
Speaker 1: you forgot. This feels surreal to me in this moment,
Speaker 1: and I'm not and I'm now also remembering that there's
Speaker 1: going to be something later that I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I prepared, I prepared today. I have
Speaker 1: a couple of things that I'm thinking about, so absolutely
Speaker 1: so okay, So culture wise, I think the obvious thing
Speaker 1: I need to say, is like Sudden Foster singing show
Speaker 1: off like Chap. I saw it at the Ammondson before
Speaker 1: it moved to Oh Mark, I saw that out of
Speaker 1: time Tryout. So she's someone else. We interviewed at Vulture Festival,
Speaker 1: and our whole interview with the younger cast was do
Speaker 1: you understand who she is? People don't, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't understand like that she's in. She's in
Speaker 1: like the Bet Bernardine. She's in the top Tattie like
Speaker 1: world top ten's in that pantheon. So like yeah, that
Speaker 1: like you know the Funny Girl soundtrack and like on
Speaker 1: my boom Box, like you know Gypsy, the Bette Miller
Speaker 1: TV movie, um, that world of culture. And then also
Speaker 1: in a very separate way, Harry Potter was like the
Speaker 1: thing that was like that was the only thing where
Speaker 1: like everybody was also in on that so that I
Speaker 1: could bond with like also like my male friends and
Speaker 1: like my cousins and stuff over it and not just
Speaker 1: like the four gay people slash women that wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about. And everyone loved Harry Potter largely unless you like,
Speaker 1: we're in a reader as a kid, But did I
Speaker 1: talk about my talk about my calling the cops. Have
Speaker 1: I told you about the cops? Please? Gobblet of Fire
Speaker 1: was coming out. This is a huge era, a huge era. Yang,
Speaker 1: my older sister was begging my parents to go by it.
Speaker 1: And I had just learned what Harry Potter was like
Speaker 1: two days. I know this and had not read any
Speaker 1: of the prior three books, but was just high off
Speaker 1: of like the idea of it, yes, and just the
Speaker 1: peripheral buzz from my sister. She was the cultural phenomenon
Speaker 1: had got you have internalized. We went to Walmart one
Speaker 1: day and we saw like a big sign with the
Speaker 1: cover and it looked like the most amazing thing. That's
Speaker 1: the best cover, because that's the best absolute filmic it's
Speaker 1: it's amazing favorite book. Yes, and the sort of subdued Phoenix.
Speaker 1: But we can continue. Oh yes, I mean, of course
Speaker 1: that's like monotone and I like Halt Present and deathitely
Speaker 1: holl is amazing amazing. Anyway, Um, I see this sign
Speaker 1: for for Goblet of Fire and then Yang's like, please, Mom,
Speaker 1: can we please go at midnight to buy this? My
Speaker 1: mom was like, no, your mom didn't understand that it
Speaker 1: was like a thing. She just thought she was just
Speaker 1: like it's it's just a book, will buy it. We'll
Speaker 1: buy it on Saturday or whatever. She didn't get it.
Speaker 1: It's fine. We just moved to the u S. It
Speaker 1: was just like, there's a lot, There's a lot going on.
Speaker 1: It was a crazy time for for our family. But
Speaker 1: I remember Yang so so emphatically excited about this, and
Speaker 1: I was, and I was feeding off of this too,
Speaker 1: even though I hadn't read the books post I'm gonna
Speaker 1: start with this one. It makes sense. I'm gonna start
Speaker 1: with this one. I'm gonna start with book four. Um
Speaker 1: my parents, because I was immediate and then my parents
Speaker 1: were like, we're not going, like end of discussion, We're
Speaker 1: not going. And then it got super heated, so heated,
Speaker 1: and I thought, how old are you really quick? I
Speaker 1: was nine? Two thousand? Yeah, I was nine. And then
Speaker 1: and then I go, I got so heated. And then
Speaker 1: and then Yang was just being histrionic and dramatic, and
Speaker 1: it was like, I'll call the I'll call the police.
Speaker 1: If you don't let us come, I'll call and tell
Speaker 1: them your abuse, that there's child abuse at this house.
Speaker 1: And then and then I was truly like in Yang's
Speaker 1: corner and I was like, yeah, I'll do it. I
Speaker 1: was like, it was like, I'll do it. And then
Speaker 1: you called the police. And then I picked up the
Speaker 1: phone and dialed nine one one. I hadn't ever done
Speaker 1: it before. Dispatrick answer is nine one what's your emergency?
Speaker 1: I get too spooch and I hang up and then
Speaker 1: they of course called back. They're like, hig is everything okay?
Speaker 1: And my parents had to explain in broken English to
Speaker 1: this dispatchao, um, there's our our children or said that
Speaker 1: they can't buy this book that's coming out. It was
Speaker 1: like watch when that person was a huge like you're
Speaker 1: abusing them, sending people now the children terrible terrible turn. Okay,
Speaker 1: wait that was I just had a show that what
Speaker 1: was your favorite? Well, I have to tell you have
Speaker 1: a very similar story. I'm telling my concert that is
Speaker 1: the like kind of rapid need for the books when
Speaker 1: they come out. A lot of them come out the summer.
Speaker 1: And I went to jew a summer camp every summer,
Speaker 1: and I was there when the I think it was
Speaker 1: the sixth one came out and mine was not coming
Speaker 1: in the mail and time and like all of my
Speaker 1: friends were getting it and reading it and finding things
Speaker 1: out and I was getting really upset with my parents.
Speaker 1: And there was another kid in my bunk whose name
Speaker 1: was also Been and so, and like literally in the
Speaker 1: dead of night, I got up and stole his copy
Speaker 1: from his bed the side of his bunk and wrote
Speaker 1: plat and and kept it and fully got away with it.
Speaker 1: Just was a great actor, slash liar and like was
Speaker 1: I had never done literally any like I would never
Speaker 1: get in trouble like I was not. I was very
Speaker 1: good too, like at school end camp. So no, everyone
Speaker 1: believed me and I have not never searched, like suffered
Speaker 1: any consequences. And I got that, I mean time you
Speaker 1: should be thrown in prison. That other best in a
Speaker 1: way like my mental prison of anxiety gives me serving
Speaker 1: time for that. There you go. Um. But yeah, and
Speaker 1: but then what actually no, I had there was current
Speaker 1: retribution because then like two days later, the big like
Speaker 1: prank that the oldest age group pulls, they always pulled
Speaker 1: like a big prank towards the end of the session
Speaker 1: was to write the ending of the book all over camp.
Speaker 1: So we woke up one morning and in chalk all
Speaker 1: over the roads and the backup no it said it
Speaker 1: said snaps the half flood friends and Snape kills Dumbledore
Speaker 1: like literally everywhere and people. It was like literally the
Speaker 1: morning after like a like an attack of some kind,
Speaker 1: like literally it was like everybody showed up for breakfast,
Speaker 1: like really, like I will never forget see. I think
Speaker 1: like for some reason, like when Snap killed Dumbledore, I
Speaker 1: was kind of like numb to it because I never
Speaker 1: really could get with Dumbledore. But when Cedric died at
Speaker 1: the end of the fourth book, a part of me
Speaker 1: died too because it was a hot person. Because no,
Speaker 1: can I just say you want a hot person? I
Speaker 1: just saw a lighthouse and it's also amazing, really really okay.
Speaker 1: But I remember when Cedric died, I was just like, oh,
Speaker 1: kids can die. And I remember I put the book
Speaker 1: down and I walked around my pool and it was
Speaker 1: just like, kid's gonna die outside of the pool, or
Speaker 1: you were in the pool walking around. No. I actually
Speaker 1: filled my poppets with rocks and walked into the Virginia
Speaker 1: w Virginia Wolf, Nicole Kid in the hours. Anyone, Oh,
Speaker 1: I wish I had a hiver. You know what's gross?
Speaker 1: I have a sony not gross. Everything's nice, everybody's beautiful,
Speaker 1: thank you. That's very kind but young. A lot of
Speaker 1: young people who watched the show have either tweeted or
Speaker 1: said to me like, amazing song. It's like this is
Speaker 1: painful and I feel like I'm not doing Joni any favors,
Speaker 1: but well, look it up the children. I want to
Speaker 1: say one thing. The guy who plays whatever on The
Speaker 1: Politician absolutely the hottest person I've ever seen in my
Speaker 1: entire life. And it's actually sick and ready for me
Speaker 1: to break your heart. He's also the best kindest person
Speaker 1: in the whole entire world, like literally a hero in
Speaker 1: every way UH and straightest can be. Um no, but
Speaker 1: he he was. I I'm an EP so I got
Speaker 1: to watch all of the tapes and stuff, and he
Speaker 1: was going in for Ricardo the whole time, which is
Speaker 1: the weird boyfriend of UH. And the whole time I
Speaker 1: kept writing it all emails like why is this guy
Speaker 1: in here? Like he's literally like the dreamy person that
Speaker 1: you keep talking about for this like river Phoenix role,
Speaker 1: Like that's what Ryan would call it, like the river Phoenix.
Speaker 1: They saw River Phoenix type. They didn't see him Superman type.
Speaker 1: He was like, We're gonna get to me. I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get to me and then eventually, eventually,
Speaker 1: like a month, like we had to start making decisions.
Speaker 1: He was like, actually, we've decided that, like we're gonna
Speaker 1: have David come in and read Forever. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: great idea. And then of course he came in and
Speaker 1: booked it. And now he's already the lead in Ryan's
Speaker 1: Other showed he is, well, he's very much a Ryan
Speaker 1: Murphy type. That's that's first, and we celebrate. That's okay.
Speaker 1: So before we move on to um other other um
Speaker 1: pursuits of the pod, I do want to ask about
Speaker 1: Miss Lang. Okay, this is an icon for all time,
Speaker 1: and what is it like to be in the presence
Speaker 1: of him? Miss Lang. It's scary at first because she's
Speaker 1: just a very intimidating persons, has to be overbearing, but
Speaker 1: she's like so funny, like so like Zoe Dorge put
Speaker 1: to the best because we worked with for the most
Speaker 1: it's like it's hard to feel like scared or intimidated
Speaker 1: when you're laughing, Like it just kind of creates like
Speaker 1: a very comfortable space. And she just as soon as
Speaker 1: she sees that, like you can come to the table too,
Speaker 1: and like show up. Then she's like the absolute warmst,
Speaker 1: most wonderful person and she's a she's just brilliant and
Speaker 1: she's son and like doesn't consider herself funny or or
Speaker 1: a comedian by any means. And she's just like, I'm
Speaker 1: just playing it real, and it's like that's the truth. Really,
Speaker 1: she's just playing. But she's playing it so really remember
Speaker 1: like that in her first or second scene, there's a
Speaker 1: scene where she says something and the other character is
Speaker 1: talking and just in the middle of their sentence, she
Speaker 1: goes m And I was just like, WHOA, she's really
Speaker 1: there because to miss Lank she's probably thinking how funny
Speaker 1: as in broad which I mean she but she's not
Speaker 1: playing it broad. No, she's just playing it perfect. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's just like being true to the insane character that
Speaker 1: she's given and then it's perfect. Um. But she's amazing
Speaker 1: and she she made everybody laugh and I ruined a
Speaker 1: lot of like she like did a lot of improv
Speaker 1: that like Brad encouraged her to do and and like
Speaker 1: a lot of it didn't make it A because the
Speaker 1: show just like it is a really particular clip, but
Speaker 1: B because I truly like there wasn't any that I
Speaker 1: didn't ruin. There was just a lot of the like
Speaker 1: she serves us Blogney cups in one of the scenes,
Speaker 1: and she did this a long bit about how like
Speaker 1: her recipe is all about the fact that it's Velvita
Speaker 1: and Blogney, like it would have been really wonderful in
Speaker 1: the show every Sorry everyone, Wait, so you mentioned that
Speaker 1: you deal with a little anxiety, Like so when someone
Speaker 1: is that in regards to like just like like is
Speaker 1: that like social anxiety like performance? Like what is It's
Speaker 1: kind of the opposite. I feel like when it's the
Speaker 1: most like completely out of sight, out of mind, is
Speaker 1: when I'm like working or focusing on something or shooting
Speaker 1: or performing or like that's that's the great like easy area.
Speaker 1: So when someone like like someone like Gwyneth Paltrow being there,
Speaker 1: that doesn't give you exacting, No, No, that's just like
Speaker 1: exciting and like the good kind of like stomach flip
Speaker 1: like cool. I think for me anxieties more or either
Speaker 1: like really site specific like I'm a terrible flyer, like
Speaker 1: horrible on planes, or hypochondriacal situation where like every time
Speaker 1: there's even like a little something wrong with him, like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fully going to die tomorrow. It's it's about
Speaker 1: about mortality exactly. I woke up with like a big
Speaker 1: bump on the back going neck one morning and I
Speaker 1: like had a full break down a client mom and
Speaker 1: like just go to doctor, see what it is. And
Speaker 1: so I like made an emergency appointment, went to the
Speaker 1: doctor and he looked me for like us and I
Speaker 1: was like that's a pimple and then sent me home
Speaker 1: and that was it. But it felt like really rough. Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: I get like all of that. And then sometimes we'd
Speaker 1: either like helps that a lot or like exacerbates that. Um,
Speaker 1: but it's I haven't under control most No, I think
Speaker 1: that has it has we'd helped you overall. Did you
Speaker 1: get into it because of that? No? I got into
Speaker 1: because I was just in high school in l A.
Speaker 1: And like that's you did. And like the into the
Speaker 1: Woods cast party, someone was like, do you want some weed?
Speaker 1: And it's like, of course I do. I was the baker.
Speaker 1: The culture can get this bread aft up. Um. But
Speaker 1: the culture in l A really does like give people
Speaker 1: this comfort with weed. Like I remember like on Long
Speaker 1: Island everyone was just like fully an alcoholic. In high school.
Speaker 1: It was just like very like the alcohol consumption was
Speaker 1: so overwhelming, and I had no language for marijuana until
Speaker 1: I went to n y U. And then there because
Speaker 1: there was a lot of California people, most of the
Speaker 1: people I know went did think. You know Serena, Yes,
Speaker 1: she was the witch in that same production. She played
Speaker 1: the witch in Into the Woods. She was a little
Speaker 1: she's a little bit of dat. She's so funny, she was.
Speaker 1: We love Serena. We did comedy with sa. Serina was
Speaker 1: also like an excellent improviser. We were both in Sea Monkeys,
Speaker 1: the improv group group. Of course I was. I was
Speaker 1: like one of the only two tenth graders that was admitted. Honey,
Speaker 1: oh yes, and that's a very hairy Potter narrative like
Speaker 1: quich As the first year. Yeah, he was grabbing the
Speaker 1: little bool. Um wait but okay, so your short form. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Beanie was in it too, and I love that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like you know, like inner song blogue or
Speaker 1: like where you're like stopping thing where you're thinking, or
Speaker 1: like you know, like vignette was this thing where you
Speaker 1: like the lights come up and you're allowed to say
Speaker 1: like three things and the lights come back down, like
Speaker 1: kind of like the end of oh hello, the thing
Speaker 1: they do or like you know, like the arms thinging,
Speaker 1: or like you know, to be quite fucking honest, I
Speaker 1: miss short forms. What do you want to do some
Speaker 1: short form? Why is it? Is it nowhere to be found?
Speaker 1: No one does? It hasn't that it has like a
Speaker 1: sort of rap of like short form amongst people who
Speaker 1: were like long form elitists were from UCB. So it's
Speaker 1: like were just never done. And Bellin was an improviser
Speaker 1: in college in Danger Box, but high school. But high
Speaker 1: school we did short form and it was Yes, it's
Speaker 1: really fun when it's done well, it's great. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's not sustainable, like you can only watch it for minutes,
Speaker 1: but like still that's great. Can I say one more
Speaker 1: thing about Serenament amazing amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing, amazing,
Speaker 1: and would be a greater mine would be Okay, So
Speaker 1: what I'm about to say is Sudie Green and I
Speaker 1: went Sudie was in the same improv group Captain Silder
Speaker 1: as Serena, and we went to uh Serena wasn't capped
Speaker 1: twenty one, and so we went to go see they
Speaker 1: did um like a night where they were all going
Speaker 1: to sing song time songs and Serena Dream did a
Speaker 1: performance of with so Little to be sure of. Wow,
Speaker 1: that was so good that afterwards, after I looked over
Speaker 1: to studio and we were both crying, Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I feel like a two minute version of the song
Speaker 1: because there was like fourteen kids in the class and
Speaker 1: had to be an hour. But it was like a
Speaker 1: showcase moment or like us some something like that. And
Speaker 1: I remember like I turned to her and we were
Speaker 1: both trying. And afterwards I went back and was looking
Speaker 1: for the song, like specifically trying to find like an
Speaker 1: arrangement of a song like that, and lo and behold,
Speaker 1: I found Bernardette doing it and I preferred Serenas. I
Speaker 1: was like, this isn't the same thing, okay, but I
Speaker 1: do think I I think I've even told her that
Speaker 1: I haven't seen Serena, but I always told her. I
Speaker 1: was like, you give me Brandonette energy, Well you should
Speaker 1: see some. There's no like I've spent my life searching
Speaker 1: for bootlegs of this into the woods because it was
Speaker 1: like Beanie has little ed riding hood Maker. My best
Speaker 1: friend Nick was Jack my best friend Natalie was Jack's mother.
Speaker 1: Like it was like a very special and the last
Speaker 1: nobody took any video because of m T I M
Speaker 1: Musical Theater International. That's like where you licensed the shows
Speaker 1: from when you But then by senior year we were like,
Speaker 1: funk that and my Pippin is fully recorded. Well, my
Speaker 1: Pippin is recorded to Pippin. No, I'm just I was
Speaker 1: making an innuendo. I got excited. No, I didn't be
Speaker 1: on that one too. She's Bertha. Oh and my friend
Speaker 1: Katherine Gallagher who's now in Jagged Little Pills. Katherine Gallagher,
Speaker 1: Why do I know that name? She's she's on you.
Speaker 1: I just heard the arrangement of you learned from Jagged
Speaker 1: Little Pill. I think that's going to be a good show.
Speaker 1: I think I'm very excited. Yeah, and there's not a
Speaker 1: lot of musicals period this year. What's been your favorite
Speaker 1: thing you've seen recently in the past several years. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, wow, I don't I would imagine you don't
Speaker 1: get to see a ton I see everything you do everything.
Speaker 1: When you were on during that year, I couldn't see much.
Speaker 1: But since I've been out from late seventeen two now
Speaker 1: I've tried to see literally everything that I could possibly see.
Speaker 1: I really loved Haiti's town, but I also saw downtown
Speaker 1: and in London, so like I sort of was invested
Speaker 1: in the journey, right, Um. I really loved that. I
Speaker 1: really love the Inheritance, which is gonna be about to
Speaker 1: open here that I saw in London as well, very
Speaker 1: for it to come here. I really love Mockingbird, particularly
Speaker 1: Celia Kinda Bulder and Gideon Gideon another Gideon also Arnest,
Speaker 1: although I have not met Gideon in in person maybe
Speaker 1: in passing. Once. We used to go out for a
Speaker 1: lot of the same like I would see. I thought
Speaker 1: you were telling me we used to go out, and
Speaker 1: I was like, but you haven't seen I haven't used
Speaker 1: to go out. Used to absolutely bang um no, but yeah,
Speaker 1: let me did you're just bragging that you're the same
Speaker 1: type and a strange loop? Did you see strange Loop? Yes?
Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't see It'll go somewhere somehow,
Speaker 1: some absolutely amazing Larry. And I can't believe it's not him,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like like I couldn't believe
Speaker 1: that he didn't also write it because it just feels
Speaker 1: like like con of the whole thing. It was really
Speaker 1: it was really something else. Have you seen slave play?
Speaker 1: I have seen slave play? Yeah, I really it's hard
Speaker 1: to say that you like slave play because it's like
Speaker 1: more than that. I certainly thought it was fascinating the
Speaker 1: whole time and like really worth seeing in every way,
Speaker 1: but it more so just made me want to like
Speaker 1: talk about things and think about Yeah, I wasn't like
Speaker 1: I don't know, like it's more than like a narrative.
Speaker 1: That's just like something to be involved in emotionally in
Speaker 1: like a normal way. It's provocative and everyone it's very
Speaker 1: literally provokes you, but the writing like backs up how provocative,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Sometimes things are just sort
Speaker 1: of like this is crazy, deal with it. But it's
Speaker 1: so fully explored, fully thought out, agreed, it's great. I
Speaker 1: have to see it still, But what even else besides
Speaker 1: that Little Pill and Muang are the musical and you
Speaker 1: know honestly that that's a good question. And that's why
Speaker 1: I mean Mulan Rouge too. It's like when I heard
Speaker 1: about I did not go just because actually when Jared
Speaker 1: and I were going to go see a show, we
Speaker 1: ended up really wanted to go see Waitress because we
Speaker 1: wanted to see No but we it was either that
Speaker 1: or Mulan Ruge and it was going to be opening
Speaker 1: night and it was like we we for some reason
Speaker 1: we're able to get tickets, um, but we did not,
Speaker 1: and I just thought it's definitely worth going to. Okay,
Speaker 1: I want to go on a normal time because I've
Speaker 1: heard the soundtrack and I'm kind of I'm kind of
Speaker 1: a gag like by what they included in the know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like also the thing that Karen Leave
Speaker 1: always doing, She's kind of giving you like this oddest
Speaker 1: sort of like I I found a reference for it
Speaker 1: when I was first It's like theater doing pop. It's
Speaker 1: like it's like that's like making firework into a three
Speaker 1: beat like narrative song. Yeah, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: but but it's really fun. It's I mean, you go,
Speaker 1: you have to go like ready to get on board
Speaker 1: with like shut up and dance with me being part
Speaker 1: of your evening. And I love that, like you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. But if you're on that level and
Speaker 1: like then it's like gorgeous looking and I love Mr
Speaker 1: Beautiful and he sounds like career good, like the best
Speaker 1: he's ever seen. He's such an incredible singer and so handsome. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean yes, oh Mr, Mr, Mr Mr it's it's
Speaker 1: Mr Tivate Tate sid dumb. I was one time leaving
Speaker 1: a show, like some random place that I was seeing.
Speaker 1: An old woman came up to me afterwards. She goes debate,
Speaker 1: not almost like maybe you're one. Um, Okay, listen, I
Speaker 1: think it might be freaking time for I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: isn't it set well? You can come back when every
Speaker 1: okay door is fully open. Maybe next time I can
Speaker 1: come together. Oh my god. Wait, we would absolutely gag,
Speaker 1: but then I would feel like be So, here's what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, Beanie. You come from her own episode?
Speaker 1: Does Beanie know of the pod? Yes? She does because
Speaker 1: of Molly and Francesco, because they've really brought it to
Speaker 1: the crew. Now, okay, so I feel like Beanie being
Speaker 1: the raven Claw is like, I don't do podcasts. I
Speaker 1: read books. No, she does. She was. She went on
Speaker 1: like Ron and Beverly was the old podcast that we
Speaker 1: everyone there. She went on Jackson's podcast. She she'll come
Speaker 1: on Okay, great when I'm not looking her like she like,
Speaker 1: I don't speak for her, but she does have a
Speaker 1: pub but um, well have you are you close to Jonah? Yes? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean like our family. And he's a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's really he's really good friends with Greta.
Speaker 1: I know because because she's best friends with her fiance.
Speaker 1: His fiance, Yes, which Greta titlemn? Okay, yes, okay, no
Speaker 1: we we we love Jona, like casually in passing discussing
Speaker 1: Gretig Gig, like, are we just going to pretend that
Speaker 1: you know Greta my girl Greta? Um no, I have not.
Speaker 1: I have not met and spend time with and lived
Speaker 1: with in the house of Greta Growig the way I
Speaker 1: live with credit titleman, that's where I live in the
Speaker 1: alley beautiful, thank you Okay, so listen. And by the way,
Speaker 1: that's Greta literally your background. That's how iconic she is.
Speaker 1: That's the kind of energy I'm trying to serve every
Speaker 1: single marry. What's that guy who draws all the gay
Speaker 1: men in pools? Oh? You know the guy? The artist?
Speaker 1: The artists know the like beautiful cockney alright, someone knows
Speaker 1: art someone absolutely those are two things and he just
Speaker 1: used one of them. The other one is Sunday on
Speaker 1: the Island of the Grand Job George because of Sunday.
Speaker 1: Saark Okay, he's flexing for for the producers of Sunday
Speaker 1: and that's it. Whose producers? It's there's nothing happening. Well,
Speaker 1: someone get it together, will be the last George, no bitch,
Speaker 1: And I have to wait for this amazing Katrina Lank
Speaker 1: production of company to pass that. Oh my god, yes,
Speaker 1: but it's amazing. I saw in London. It's Katrina Lank. Bobby. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is what I wanted to ask you. What you
Speaker 1: mentioned Funny Girl before we were a Funny Girl house.
Speaker 1: I actually have never even seen sound of music. To
Speaker 1: this day, I know they're not stop it for a second.
Speaker 1: Everyone to stop yelling. Everyone's throwing darts at me and
Speaker 1: trying to kill me in this room. Everyone's biting me.
Speaker 1: Everyone stopped, get your teeth away, stop it alright. So
Speaker 1: here's what the t music. Yeah, out of music is
Speaker 1: something I feel that it's exposed to you at a
Speaker 1: young age. The only movie that my mom would tell
Speaker 1: me was Funny Girl watching whenever I watched it recently,
Speaker 1: and I was like, this is if you bite me again.
Speaker 1: So okay, Funny Girl is the only thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: Did you see you've not seen West Side Story Cabaret.
Speaker 1: It's like you've never seen West Side Story. Henry used
Speaker 1: to kill me whatever, their friend would killed me before
Speaker 1: whatever this is going to be, this movie comes out,
Speaker 1: you have to watch through. You have to watch just
Speaker 1: so you have the context and also because it's one
Speaker 1: of the best music movies of all time. Can I
Speaker 1: tell you how I'm shocked they didn't cast in that
Speaker 1: movie Maria. And also I'm shocked Camilla. I had heard
Speaker 1: that Camilla Kabo wanted to do it, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm shocked I didn't put her in it just because
Speaker 1: she was that really, yes, I just do that as
Speaker 1: a joke. No, I know that she was. Who knows,
Speaker 1: there's a million like studio people who could have been, Like,
Speaker 1: had some weird reason, Steven Spielberg. Maybe it was like
Speaker 1: I'd like to cast an unknown and that girl's amaze.
Speaker 1: It looks like she's amazing. Oh yeah, I'm sure it's
Speaker 1: going to be stunning. And Mr Ansel who we've also
Speaker 1: who we also interviewed from. Yeah, a lot of side
Speaker 1: story either, I haven't seen it, Okay, so you have
Speaker 1: to watch Sound of Music and West Side Story and
Speaker 1: you've seen Cabaret though I've seen Cabra. Okay, yes, I
Speaker 1: love Cabra. Actually I did go to opening night of
Speaker 1: the Michelle Williams and Coming Revival. I thought a lot
Speaker 1: of thoughts about that particular situation where it was like
Speaker 1: going to be Emma, but then it was Michelle, and
Speaker 1: then it was m after and it's like put her
Speaker 1: in a tough position, and we love Michelle. Michelle is amazing,
Speaker 1: but Emma was. I didn't get to see Ema, but
Speaker 1: I heard it was plastic. It was everything I saw there.
Speaker 1: There was like a bootleg video someone recorded her doing
Speaker 1: in here. There's a cabaret to you can watch her
Speaker 1: do Life's Cabaret. Oh great, not that I could done bootlegs,
Speaker 1: but I do. But yeah, yeah, I mean that was closed. So,
Speaker 1: like I said, I've said on this podcast, you can
Speaker 1: go to Lincoln Center and they have you can. I
Speaker 1: flew here in eleventh grade because we were doing City
Speaker 1: of Angels for our school musical. I wanted to know
Speaker 1: what role to audition for, so I went and watched
Speaker 1: City of Angels at the library to see, like what's
Speaker 1: my role? And I found it and it Yeah, you
Speaker 1: go pitch on the commitment this. Let me finish this
Speaker 1: fucking sentence. Okay, Well, funny Girl is not does not
Speaker 1: exclude a preclude you from watching Sound of Music. Just
Speaker 1: saying there's a crazy narrative that's Barbara versus Barbara versus Julia.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying. I'm not putting women against each other
Speaker 1: and apples and Judaism. Yeah, well apples and Judaism, m HP.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's your name. Um. Okay, Wait, what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is there's like a space that your parents show you.
Speaker 1: There's a movie musical that the imprints on you. I understand,
Speaker 1: and for me that one was Funny Girl, and I
Speaker 1: just haven't seen it since. So what I'm asking you is,
Speaker 1: did you see the production in London? Yes? I did? Um,
Speaker 1: I don't really know what to say about it. Way,
Speaker 1: I loved it. Really a funny Girl is Sound of Music?
Speaker 1: Funny Girl. Here's the thing. The production was great and
Speaker 1: I love seeing that show in any respect. For me,
Speaker 1: I only want to hear Fanny or not even just Barbara.
Speaker 1: I want to hear somebody scream the song it's like
Speaker 1: eight huge numbers. It's not even it's not like it's
Speaker 1: not like a Harold Hill situation where you can talk
Speaker 1: through most of it, right, It's like huge, big, big
Speaker 1: torch songs. And she was super funny. And I've seen
Speaker 1: other things and Sheridan's yeah, I saw the understudy. So
Speaker 1: basically never all that drama where Sheridan was like in
Speaker 1: and out of it because of whatever was going on.
Speaker 1: So there was like some drama because Sheridan Sheridan Smith,
Speaker 1: who's like this like star in England I had never
Speaker 1: heard of. She's sort of like a tabloid figure too.
Speaker 1: I think she's had some demons. Everyone's like a tabloid
Speaker 1: figure in the UK. Well, the UK is like their
Speaker 1: taboloids are like verrazy, and that's why I think I
Speaker 1: hadn't really understood what Megan Marco was going through until
Speaker 1: I really understood like the tabloid sister, like how vicious
Speaker 1: it is. But it's very dark. But um, what's the
Speaker 1: crazy one? Is it the sun or um? I think?
Speaker 1: But basically like she was out of the show because
Speaker 1: of some personal problem. And I remember these like hoity
Speaker 1: toity theater people in London were like we paid to
Speaker 1: see Sheridan Smith, We're not couldn't stay here this story
Speaker 1: of my and then so then she went on and
Speaker 1: she was stunning and she actually had like a voice
Speaker 1: that Ben wants her to scream the songs I felt
Speaker 1: she screamed the song like that. That song is not
Speaker 1: what I don't say. I don't mean scream, I just
Speaker 1: mean like full voice, belt beautifully Like I want her
Speaker 1: to be an amazing scene. She should well to be
Speaker 1: Fanny Bryce on stage effectively, you have to be an
Speaker 1: amazing singer and dramatic actress, an incredible physical comedian. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you who's born to Fanny? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: saying just just saying, just sing beat Fanny and as
Speaker 1: George that's too. You know remember when like it was
Speaker 1: like very much talked about, like for Leam Michelle to
Speaker 1: do it. I haven't seen it. I don't see that
Speaker 1: for I don't either. I feel like there's a phase
Speaker 1: of every major musical project where there's a moment where
Speaker 1: it's like, is it going to be Lea Michelle? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like there was an alphabet in
Speaker 1: the movie moment where it's like, is it gonna be
Speaker 1: Leo Michelle. That moment passed, but I would like to
Speaker 1: see her come back to Broadway. Oh. I would love
Speaker 1: to hear singing in any capacity. Yeah. I love Liam
Speaker 1: Michelle's voice. I I think that she I think if
Speaker 1: she were to come back to probably everyone would be
Speaker 1: so excited. I agree. She's probably just waiting for the
Speaker 1: right thing, right, Yeah, I'm turning what even is a
Speaker 1: good as as the role? Maybe something original, maybe something original.
Speaker 1: That's see. That's the thing too with all the ladies
Speaker 1: is like when Sutton was doing like Shrek and Ship,
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, do something original. But
Speaker 1: that it's like you realize how hard it's so hard
Speaker 1: to get something like that. Like's not everything is just
Speaker 1: this like next to normal where it just like it
Speaker 1: happens and it's incredible and its perfectly one every like
Speaker 1: six or seven years. Yeah, totally. I mean Evan Hanson
Speaker 1: is one of Everything's damn dear Evan Hanson. Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: But anyway, it's just I would I would love to
Speaker 1: see better, not better stuff, but just like more stuff
Speaker 1: that's original and thought provoking and like in musical theaters
Speaker 1: because there are a lot of you know I'm talking
Speaker 1: there's a lot of experts. Well, no, but I agree,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of like there's a lot, a large
Speaker 1: percentage of it. That's one type of thing that sometimes
Speaker 1: people will see and then write off musical theater in
Speaker 1: general as an art format like something that they're not into,
Speaker 1: and it's like of all of the like obviously there's
Speaker 1: a millions of different kinds of films, intelligent shows, whatever.
Speaker 1: But in theater, it's like you can have such vastly
Speaker 1: different experiences going to see like street to like you know,
Speaker 1: having like an emotional involving like narrative experience, like and
Speaker 1: knowing that that's possible when people are singing, and like
Speaker 1: knowing that it doesn't take you out of reality and
Speaker 1: in fact like can bring you like deeper into reality,
Speaker 1: but it's so for you and far between the shows
Speaker 1: that actually successfully do that. And also I would think
Speaker 1: I I also think that when you have like a
Speaker 1: movie that's making me a musical oftentimes it's just very
Speaker 1: easy to just try to transplant that, like you know,
Speaker 1: like The Pretty Woman of It All, etcetera, etcetera. And
Speaker 1: then you have like Legally Blonde, which was like really
Speaker 1: fun and like that was great. But then did you
Speaker 1: see Bridges of Madison County? I did see Bridge of
Speaker 1: Madison County? Did you did you like it? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that as a show it could have used
Speaker 1: other things, but the two of them and the and
Speaker 1: the score and the both performances and the direction of
Speaker 1: the two of them, all of that was unbelievably. It
Speaker 1: was so beautiful. But I what I really appreciated it
Speaker 1: was it felt like its own thing. And I mean
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like the movie I put on stage.
Speaker 1: I felt like a piece that was a piece of
Speaker 1: art that was like and honestly, I almost thought that
Speaker 1: my note for it was I thought it could have
Speaker 1: just been the two of them. To be honest with you,
Speaker 1: that's exactly what I meant. I would say, I think
Speaker 1: that's your exactly right. Either, either just fill it out
Speaker 1: a little bit more and make that stuff that wasn't
Speaker 1: the two of them kind of matter more literally a
Speaker 1: teta tet because it's anyway, like I don't necessarily like
Speaker 1: need like a beautiful, gorgeous Derrik Klanna coming in and
Speaker 1: singing about like being a teenager in Iowa. I don't,
Speaker 1: I'm not, I don't care as much as I care about,
Speaker 1: like Kelly's incredible Italian accent and like, yeah, getting out
Speaker 1: of the tub. Can I tell you a Derek Klein
Speaker 1: of story. Of course, my friend Luke Marinkovic's bachelor party
Speaker 1: was paintball gunning. Oh my god, and me and Derek
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Speaker 1: finger blast on on Breakable Kimmy Schmidt, that is true.
Speaker 1: And he does an amazing impression of Steven Sader if
Speaker 1: you ever meet him, who is the writer of Springwakening. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Derrek klennon Instagram. He's inject a little pill too. Is
Speaker 1: he works? Yeah? And I thought he was great. Kim
Speaker 1: Schmidt so funny, I love Okay, So it is now
Speaker 1: time for I don't think so um and I don't
Speaker 1: think it's funny. Is of course our segment on Last Cultures,
Speaker 1: where we take one minutes to rent against something in
Speaker 1: culture that we're just thinking it thinks it's this. We'll
Speaker 1: guess what we're going to say this. I have to
Speaker 1: find a new way to describe it. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: On this the bend Platt episode of Last Coulturess, which
Speaker 1: will be called Apples or Judaism, time starts at I
Speaker 1: don't think so. Honey, perishable foods, Bitch, this stigma on
Speaker 1: preservatives has to stop. We have to end the stigma
Speaker 1: on preservatives. Canned food is where it's at. I want
Speaker 1: all food to be canned from now on. Fruits and vegetables,
Speaker 1: you're You're done, You're busted, You're canceled. I hate when
Speaker 1: I buy a bunch of strawberries or a bunch of grapes,
Speaker 1: and three days later they wither and die and I
Speaker 1: can't even eat them anymore. I put them in my
Speaker 1: crisp and I might make sure they're taken care of,
Speaker 1: and yet they die on me. No, no, no, no, no, sweetie.
Speaker 1: Better be fresh all the time. And if nothing can
Speaker 1: be fresh all the time, then that means it better
Speaker 1: be unspoiled. So it's either honey or canned shipped for
Speaker 1: me from now on until the rest of time. Look,
Speaker 1: I'll find like veganism, gray, gluten free gray, let's the
Speaker 1: next scene set. Movement in food ethics is for all
Speaker 1: food and not be perishable. And and I think that
Speaker 1: that that is the next runt here and mark my words,
Speaker 1: five seconds. The science has to get there to um
Speaker 1: for for for me to not I have to worry
Speaker 1: about things expiring. And that's one minute. Can I say something,
Speaker 1: I kind of want you to end every one of
Speaker 1: your I don't think so, Honey's with I'll Sue, because
Speaker 1: you were here before we had Benito skinting around and
Speaker 1: he ended up with being su and I kind of
Speaker 1: love everyone. Remember that. Remember that? And then before end
Speaker 1: the other one, he went, remember that? And I love
Speaker 1: that for you, and I also love Sue. I like
Speaker 1: for you are like small, short powerful declaration. Wow. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. Well that
Speaker 1: was very good. I mean, the thing about perishable foods
Speaker 1: is they perish, and I therefore I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And I don't think That's why I think it's so
Speaker 1: hard to cook too, because you have to think so
Speaker 1: in advance to buy things that are going to die
Speaker 1: by the time you're ready to cook them. Yeah, thank you,
Speaker 1: and get out of here. Get out of here with this.
Speaker 1: Here's here's here's a list of Pansy, Honey, I'm on Quimby. Honey,
Speaker 1: I'm on Quimby. I'm a Quimby girl. Guys, wait listeners, readers,
Speaker 1: can you please download CIB please? I want you, guys.
Speaker 1: So many things I've already heard that are happening on
Speaker 1: there that I want to see. It's there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some cool stuff and we just wrapped a game show
Speaker 1: and I think it's going to be really good. Guys,
Speaker 1: So I want everyone to please download Quippy. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be so fun. They put so much work into this,
Speaker 1: it's so great. The whole crew is on it. Ben
Speaker 1: Platt was un a veil Lyn Stinkole. Ben p was unveil. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm here now. Yeah, you're here now, and I'm coming
Speaker 1: to your goddamn show. I was coming anyway. I had
Speaker 1: tickets as an audience member. So it's just well, and honestly,
Speaker 1: by the time this episode is that, you'll have stunned
Speaker 1: the crowd because we are as a surprise. No, they'll
Speaker 1: be very Are you kidding me? All of it's gonna
Speaker 1: be Maybe I should hide backstage. We'll talk. We'll talk. No,
Speaker 1: I want you to do whatever you want to do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my friends can come hang and then we can all
Speaker 1: compig but we'll talk. You can, they can absolutely come hang. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe we'll do that. We're gonna be we're gonna be
Speaker 1: tending to our friend. Oh yeah, we'll figure it out alright.
Speaker 1: But for now, this is ben plots. I don't think, honey,
Speaker 1: is he ready? Yeah? This is gonna be amazing. This
Speaker 1: has been plots. I don't think so, honey. As time
Speaker 1: starts new, I don't think so, honey. Live theater audience
Speaker 1: etiquette in general, it's gonna say, just phones, because that's
Speaker 1: the biggest one. It's like the one decision you have
Speaker 1: to make when you sit down and said, turn your
Speaker 1: phone off. And if there's something so urgent going on
Speaker 1: in your life that you need to have your phone
Speaker 1: on because you're worried about checking it, don't come to
Speaker 1: the theater, darling. Don't come in a room for two hours.
Speaker 1: If you can't stand to be in there without checking
Speaker 1: your phone, turn it off. We're doing so much work
Speaker 1: for you. The least you need to press one button
Speaker 1: before we start. Um. The other one is coughing. I
Speaker 1: understand if there's something in your throat that's impeding your
Speaker 1: ability to breathe, that you need to release, But cops
Speaker 1: are going to bigger who it is there sounds like
Speaker 1: just to fill space and to let us know that
Speaker 1: we're not keeping your attention or that the tension in
Speaker 1: the room caused about the drama is not enough for you.
Speaker 1: Every More do you make affects the people on stage
Speaker 1: to think about everything that's coming out of your mouth
Speaker 1: just for this hour and a half, for two hours,
Speaker 1: it's not that hard of a request to make. Don't
Speaker 1: bring any fucking food in either way, Like I don't like.
Speaker 1: I understand that there's like concessions that you can buy
Speaker 1: the intermission, eat them intermission, that's great. Do not be
Speaker 1: unwrapping skills while I'm crying for you seconds and um. Also,
Speaker 1: don't talk to each other. Thank you, thank you so much.
Speaker 1: And you know what I have to tell you. I've
Speaker 1: done a similar one just for unwrapping food. But this
Speaker 1: coming from you is going to make Patty Lapone headlines.
Speaker 1: This is akin to Patty Lapone saying are you are
Speaker 1: you ready? I was at the performance where she held
Speaker 1: the photographer. God, I was in the house, and did
Speaker 1: you love it? I loved every minute of it. I
Speaker 1: believe that now it's pretty clear that it was a
Speaker 1: hired photographer that she just wasn't aware of because it
Speaker 1: was my because because it wasn't man taking photos very
Speaker 1: very like daciously in the aisle with a real camera,
Speaker 1: and it's just hard for me to believe that that's
Speaker 1: just someone in the crowd who So I think it
Speaker 1: was like, that's something that should have been brought by her,
Speaker 1: and that was and was not. But I lived for
Speaker 1: every minute of it. Unbelievable to be their live when
Speaker 1: she turned her damn you thank's on one of that.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing that you stand the Barbara Cooke Kennedy Center.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? It's the only video I'll ever watch,
Speaker 1: is that? I mean? Also, Sutton, don't be off. I
Speaker 1: was just like way up there, so very new to me.
Speaker 1: Everybody is so perfectly used in that medley too. The
Speaker 1: like is to be part of a Kennedy Center medley
Speaker 1: for someone you that'll that's that's coming wow. Honestly. Also,
Speaker 1: here's the thing about coughing. You can almost always just swallow, correct,
Speaker 1: That's what I mean, unless it's gonna like threaten your health.
Speaker 1: Even if it's gonna make you momentarily uncomfortable. Do not
Speaker 1: make a noise. Don't make a noise. There's so many
Speaker 1: effective ways of muffling this down, covering your mouth, like
Speaker 1: like doing it in your exactly in your elbow. Everything.
Speaker 1: There's so many just like really very like reckless. Just
Speaker 1: like it's like that that affected me. Yeah, I hear that,
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking about that and not Jennifer Laura Thompson.
Speaker 1: So like conscious watching. Yeah, we barely gonna watch movies anymore,
Speaker 1: and like that's so this is the only time most
Speaker 1: people are sitting in a dark room and have pay
Speaker 1: attention anyway. So it's like just just the money that
Speaker 1: everyone else paid to their experience and it's just like
Speaker 1: it's so expensive and like just for me to remember.
Speaker 1: I think it was, you know what it was, it
Speaker 1: was um towards the end of I think it was
Speaker 1: skin tight. I saw like the plan that was in
Speaker 1: it was like truly they were having like it was
Speaker 1: like the emotional climax of it and someone was just
Speaker 1: coughing and coughing to the point where everyone in the
Speaker 1: theater was like, Oh, if you're that, don't come, don't come.
Speaker 1: And I went to what the Constitution means to me.
Speaker 1: It was great and there it was me and her
Speaker 1: was her, Me and this older gentleman who took about
Speaker 1: twenty minutes to take off his coat to twenty minutes,
Speaker 1: just like, and it's like a noisy, noisy, noisy coat,
Speaker 1: just like. And then I was like, I was fine
Speaker 1: with it. I was like, it's a little distracting, but
Speaker 1: study just like, yeah, And it was really funny to
Speaker 1: see her that piste up but to play that's advocate.
Speaker 1: I also did once get mad at someone who was
Speaker 1: sitting in front of me at Wicked for turning to
Speaker 1: me and glaring at me while I was gasping at
Speaker 1: the defined gravity vocals. But that's fine. That's a totally
Speaker 1: different type of was there with non and Jessica Votsk
Speaker 1: was singing like so if you're good if me and
Speaker 1: we were like and this guy was like, like, you
Speaker 1: don't understand Wicked, sir, Yes, you you don't for the
Speaker 1: right reasons. You can't feel in your throat what she's doing.
Speaker 1: You're like a bad bachelor contestant. The wow that is
Speaker 1: the transaction though the theater is that you you get
Speaker 1: to respond as an audience member. Yes, the response is different,
Speaker 1: like standing during fucking I'm here, like in color purple
Speaker 1: and that's amazing. I'll be in the aisle full fanta
Speaker 1: do that ripped it up. I wish I wish I could.
Speaker 1: I wish you could have done it in the production
Speaker 1: that was the later production. I think they really got
Speaker 1: the world right the second time that, even though the
Speaker 1: songs and the material already great. So I would have
Speaker 1: left to see that. So did you see it with Cynthia,
Speaker 1: Danielle and Jennifer I saw five times because it was
Speaker 1: right before I was about to Evan Hanson and I
Speaker 1: was getting really scared about it. And I saw Cynthia
Speaker 1: once the first time I went, and I was so
Speaker 1: like blown away by she was able to do that.
Speaker 1: I was like, I have to go see her on
Speaker 1: five different days of the week and see if she's
Speaker 1: really always doing this, And she always was doing that performance.
Speaker 1: So I saw her with Jenniferson twice. I saw Heather
Speaker 1: Headley twice, and I saw Jennifer Holiday once. Whoa, I
Speaker 1: forgot that Jennifer Holiday stepped into that for how long?
Speaker 1: I feel like it. It was a very different experience,
Speaker 1: but a very special one. I mean, Heather was the
Speaker 1: was the best. I love the way the way that
Speaker 1: she chooses to like express words that are not really
Speaker 1: the words she's saying. Have you heard the concert version
Speaker 1: of dream Girls? I do Dina and Lilias as um White.
Speaker 1: I've at least seen bit parts Heather is um Laurel
Speaker 1: in it, and it's really funny. What about the porters
Speaker 1: James Sounder early, that's amazing. What about the concert where
Speaker 1: Lilias is Fanny Brice? Have you ever seen that? I've
Speaker 1: seen that one, because that didn't it wasn't it like
Speaker 1: they were all a bunch of different Vanny Brices. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And she does dominated My Parade, which is amazing because
Speaker 1: Edina was in that one. At the end she goes
Speaker 1: parade and you're like that before we before we um
Speaker 1: cap this off. Have you seen the Brandy chevon Massey
Speaker 1: Defined Gravity? I think so? Okay, Well, usually I just
Speaker 1: want Esac over and over again because to me, she's
Speaker 1: locally maculate. There was this there was the stand by
Speaker 1: her understudy um named Brandy chevon Massey who got her
Speaker 1: shot at define Gravity, and what she does at the
Speaker 1: end was absolutely it's we think, we think about constant.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite thing that's ever happened on the Browler stage.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, have you heard the bell Jean, the Hungarian
Speaker 1: bel Jean eat it at the end of who am I?
Speaker 1: It's crazy? It's crazy. No, Brandy side Messy didn't even
Speaker 1: eat it. She just like slayed it in a way
Speaker 1: that's like so different, so different. We can't wait. Okay,
Speaker 1: so literally we have to we have to stop. But
Speaker 1: this was so fun to have true underplayed like I
Speaker 1: truly often I've I've said this embarrassingly and I think
Speaker 1: in a d M too, But truly, when I'm feeling
Speaker 1: like anxious or sad or like about the world, I
Speaker 1: listened to this podcast to walk around the city and
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