WEBVTT - The Mad Baron in Mongolia (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Noble Blood, a production of iHeartRadio and Grimm

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<v Speaker 1>and Mild from Aaron Manky. Listener discretion advised. This is

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<v Speaker 1>the second part of our two part episode on Roman

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<v Speaker 1>von ungern Sternberg, so if you haven't listened to part

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<v Speaker 1>one yet, please start there. Why Roman von Ungernstenberg went

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<v Speaker 1>to Mongolia in October of nineteen twenty remains a mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>Historians now call his eight month stint in the area

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<v Speaker 1>his Mongolian Campaign, but even that label is controversial. Willard

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<v Speaker 1>Sunderland suggests that using the word campaign implies that Roman

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<v Speaker 1>had quote a reason for being there. Instead, the decision

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<v Speaker 1>was haphazard. Roman had originally intended to move west rather

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<v Speaker 1>than east, to cut off the Red Army advancing on Cheetah,

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<v Speaker 1>according to his military orders, but when he found out

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<v Speaker 1>that the Reds had already taken the city, he had

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<v Speaker 1>to change his plans, so he went rogue, leading what

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<v Speaker 1>remained of the Asiatic Division of the White Army south

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<v Speaker 1>across the Mongolian border. His forces included about eight hundred men,

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<v Speaker 1>trailed by horses and a train of carts, covered wagons

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<v Speaker 1>and pack animals. He would later tell the Reds that

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<v Speaker 1>his plan was quote a product of happenstance and fate.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't totally out of the question for him to

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<v Speaker 1>go to Mongolia, since the Whites had an established military

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<v Speaker 1>presence there, But what Roman did next had more to

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<v Speaker 1>do with his own personal politics. He decided to conquer Erga,

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<v Speaker 1>the capital of Mongolia. He concocted this plan in the

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<v Speaker 1>heat of the moment after learning that the Chinese commander

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<v Speaker 1>in Urga had arrested a group of white officers. Roman

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<v Speaker 1>saw Erga as a quote red town, according to an

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<v Speaker 1>account from Roman's aide de camp, because most of the

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<v Speaker 1>Russians that lived there were Bolshevik sympathizers. Moreover, in nineteen nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese Republicans had invaded, holding the city under military occupation

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<v Speaker 1>and putting the Boghda Khan under house arrest. To Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bolsheviks and Chinese Republicans were one and the same.

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<v Speaker 1>He described the Chinese Republican leader Sun Yat Sen as

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<v Speaker 1>quote that famous revolutionary Bolshevik. Even though Russia and China

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<v Speaker 1>were often at odds, Roman saw his fight against socialist

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<v Speaker 1>revolution as a personal crusade that disregarded borders and nations.

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<v Speaker 1>He was going to take matters into his own hands,

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<v Speaker 1>and he didn't care how much force he would need

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<v Speaker 1>to use. I'm Danish worts and this is noble blood.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman tried to take over the Mongolian capital Urga three times.

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<v Speaker 1>The first two times in October and November of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty his army was defeated by the Chinese. Then he

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<v Speaker 1>took a few months over the winter to regroup, stocking

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<v Speaker 1>up guns and other supplies from Manchuria and recruiting additional soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>There were many disaffected Mongolians who were sympathetic to Roman's cause,

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<v Speaker 1>lamas and nobles who wanted to free the Baghda nationalists

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<v Speaker 1>that wanted to kick the Chinese out of the country.

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<v Speaker 1>There were even some stray white officers and Sarist officials

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<v Speaker 1>around the area who were willing to join Roman's forces.

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<v Speaker 1>And I should be clear when I say white in

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<v Speaker 1>this case, I mean the white army as opposed to

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<v Speaker 1>the red Bolshevik army, the white anti Bolshevik forces, not

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<v Speaker 1>with any respect to race or nationality. In February nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty one, with five thousand men, Roman descended on Erga

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<v Speaker 1>in broad daylight. He rescued the Bogda from house arrest

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<v Speaker 1>and occupied the city. By the end of the month,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese had withdrawn entirely. Erga was his Roman reinstalled

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<v Speaker 1>the Bogda as the national ruler, and in return, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bogda gave him the title of Great Hero General builder

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<v Speaker 1>of the state, and the privilege of wearing a three

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<v Speaker 1>eyed peacock plume in his Manchu style velvet cap, a

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<v Speaker 1>symbol of the highest nobility. You have taken Erga, one

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<v Speaker 1>Mongol leader wrote to Rome Roman not long after his

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<v Speaker 1>titling ceremony, Your good deed shall shine across the world

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<v Speaker 1>like the rays of the sun. Tacitly, working under the Boghda,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman's men repaired roads and bridges, reopening the printing press

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<v Speaker 1>and electric plant. Roman seized gold and valuables from Russian

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<v Speaker 1>and Chinese banks and confiscated cars, cannons, rifles, and machine

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<v Speaker 1>guns to shore up his army. But he didn't stop there.

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<v Speaker 1>Upon taking over Urga, Roman launched a pogrom, giving his

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<v Speaker 1>men three days to quote eliminate any Jews and Reds

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<v Speaker 1>they found in Erga. The whites already had lists of

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<v Speaker 1>Jewish families and others they determined to be Bolshevik quote sympathizers.

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<v Speaker 1>While some Jewish people managed to hide or escape the city,

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<v Speaker 1>over three hundred people were killed during Roman's three day rampage.

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<v Speaker 1>One person who managed to escape Urga gave an interview

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<v Speaker 1>to a Bolshevik newspaper describing how Romans men hunted down

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<v Speaker 1>entire Jewish households, slaughtering even their farm animals. By the

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<v Speaker 1>end of Romans campaign, Erga's tiny Jewish community essentially ceased

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<v Speaker 1>to exist. Roman's anti Semitism was deeply rooted in his

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<v Speaker 1>time in the Russian Army, going back to his teenage years,

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<v Speaker 1>when he witnessed the Estonian riots of nineteen o five.

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<v Speaker 1>Aristocrats dismissed the legitimate grievances that fueled various early twentieth

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<v Speaker 1>century rebellions by blaming them on Jewish manipulation. In nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o three, a tract called the Protocols of the Elders

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<v Speaker 1>of Zion was published in Imperial Russia before spreading throughout

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<v Speaker 1>Europe in the nineteen twenties and thirties. The pamphlet is

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<v Speaker 1>a fabricated document that purported to lay out a Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>plot for world domination by steering hapless peasants toward revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman believed this conspiracy wholeheartedly. Like other anti Semites in

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<v Speaker 1>white military leadership, he saw socialists and Jews as one

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<v Speaker 1>and the same. When asked later why he hated Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>people so much, he replied, simply, they caused the revolution.

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<v Speaker 1>He wrote that quote in their hearts, the people remained

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<v Speaker 1>loyal to the Czar, faith and fatherland, but the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>menace had led them astray. Roman's reign of terror continued

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<v Speaker 1>beyond that three day rampage. He set up a security

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<v Speaker 1>office to find quote, unreliables and eventually executed them at

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<v Speaker 1>what was considered one of the worst white torture chambers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Russian Empire, which James Palmer wrote, quote was

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<v Speaker 1>a considerable achievement in the brutal environment of the Civil War.

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<v Speaker 1>This reputation attracted more sadistic officers, as Roman tacitly allowed

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<v Speaker 1>his men to murder whoever they wanted without reproach. One

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<v Speaker 1>official bludgeoned and drowned thirty one hostages in Lake Baikal

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<v Speaker 1>and later earned the nickname quote the Strangler of trans Bacalia.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman enforced military discipline with the utmost brutality for minor infractions,

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<v Speaker 1>The most common punishment was a beating with a bamboo lash,

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<v Speaker 1>and for serious infractions he sentenced his men to the

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<v Speaker 1>death penalty. Roman imagined himself as a new Genghis. He

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to unite the ethnic and religious groups of the

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<v Speaker 1>region into a quote central Mongolian state, one that would

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<v Speaker 1>stretch over most of the steppe region of central Eurasia

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<v Speaker 1>from roughly the western edges of Manchuria to the Caspian Sea.

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<v Speaker 1>This had almost nothing to do with Russia. In nineteen fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>the Russians had agreed to leave Mongolia alone, and the

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<v Speaker 1>newly ascendant Bolsheviks had other priorities instead. This idea seemed

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<v Speaker 1>like a relic from Roman's childhood, where he believed that

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<v Speaker 1>native Estonians and Germans, like his own family, should submit

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<v Speaker 1>to the ideals of whoever showed the strongest force, which

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<v Speaker 1>just so happened to be Russia, but curiously diverging from

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the White Army. He also felt that

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<v Speaker 1>those on the outskirts of the U Empire were superior

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<v Speaker 1>to the Russians themselves. Roman believed that people like him

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<v Speaker 1>who had grown up on the Imperial frontier, whether they

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<v Speaker 1>were Mongols Cossacks or members of the nomadic step societies

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<v Speaker 1>preserved a strength and purity that the center of Russia

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<v Speaker 1>had lost. He figured that while Mongolia would be a

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<v Speaker 1>mostly politically independent state, Russia would serve as a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of feudal overlord, like a king ruling over his vassals.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to imagine how this plan would have actually

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<v Speaker 1>worked in practice, but that was no problem for Roman.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of his plans were pretty fuzzy and abstract anyway. Nevertheless,

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<v Speaker 1>Roman wanted to extend his territory by invading Kiakhta, a

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<v Speaker 1>strategically placed town en route back to Siberia, creating a

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<v Speaker 1>white stronghold in the region. He told a Chinese ally quote,

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<v Speaker 1>all my efforts are directed to the north, where I

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<v Speaker 1>shall move to break through to Russia as soon as possible.

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<v Speaker 1>He distributed a formal manifesto known as Order Number fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>in which he expressed his desire to destroy communism and

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<v Speaker 1>restore the Russian monarchy by appointing Czar Nicholas the Second's brother,

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand Duke Michael, as the new ruler of the empire.

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<v Speaker 1>A campaign against Siberia also made sense because Roman was

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<v Speaker 1>vulnerable to attack in Erga, either by the Reds or

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<v Speaker 1>the Chinese Kaki. From his victory in Erga, Roman thought

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<v Speaker 1>that his next steps would be easy. He believed that

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<v Speaker 1>anti Bolshevik sentiment in Siberia remained strong and that his

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<v Speaker 1>invasion could inspire other uprisings across the area. Later, he

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<v Speaker 1>said that his impending attack on the Reds would ignite

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<v Speaker 1>a quote powder keg of popular resentment in Siberia that

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<v Speaker 1>would gather these scattered White units still operating there into

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<v Speaker 1>a single, unstoppable force. But by nineteen twenty one, the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Army was much stronger than he had anticipated. The

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<v Speaker 1>Whites had lost control of the trans Siberian Railway and

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<v Speaker 1>dispersed east. Only a few stragglers remained. Roman's monarchist ambitions

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<v Speaker 1>and sadistic reputation did not land well with the Russians

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<v Speaker 1>still living in Siberia. Meanwhile, after Roman took over Erga,

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<v Speaker 1>at least eight thousand Chinese soldiers and refugees had fled

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<v Speaker 1>to Kiyakti, meaning he had even more opponents there than

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<v Speaker 1>just the Russians. The Kalkas, the largest Mongolian subgroup, refused

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<v Speaker 1>to work with Roman. Even the nobles of Erga feared

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<v Speaker 1>Roman's threats to their privileges and were not entirely committed

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<v Speaker 1>to his cause. Roman was aware of these obstacles. The

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<v Speaker 1>daughter of a former Tsarist official recalled how her father

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<v Speaker 1>tried to dissuade him from going to Kiakta by saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>here you have fodder for the horses everything, whereas out

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<v Speaker 1>there they will destroy you. But despite the warning, Roman

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<v Speaker 1>went anyway. He had internalized his role in World War One,

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<v Speaker 1>where the best soldiers went into battle even when the

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<v Speaker 1>odds were stacked against them. His attack on Kiacta in

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<v Speaker 1>May nineteen twenty one failed. His force was too small

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<v Speaker 1>and poorly organized, and he couldn't get very far without

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<v Speaker 1>local support. Roman spent the next three months on the

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<v Speaker 1>road with his regiment, wandering aimlessly through Siberia and Mongolia.

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<v Speaker 1>Even worse, the Red Army was closing in on him.

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<v Speaker 1>They partnered with an army of Mongols and took over

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<v Speaker 1>Ergo while Roman was away. The rest of Roman's men

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<v Speaker 1>had already fled the capital by the time the Reds

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<v Speaker 1>had arrived with no pushback. The invaders established a pro

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<v Speaker 1>communist government while keeping the Bogda Khan on as a figurehead.

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<v Speaker 1>As one Red Army writer put it, quote, Roman wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to move against us, but the opposite occurred. We moved

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<v Speaker 1>against him. By August, Roman's army was still wearily marching

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<v Speaker 1>through Siberia. Resentments had been building. As Roman's plan it

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<v Speaker 1>seemed harder and harder to grasp, let alone execute. Roman's

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<v Speaker 1>brutality towards his own army, including regular beatings and executions,

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<v Speaker 1>no longer inspired the same fear and discipline that it

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<v Speaker 1>had back in Erga. Finally, one night, a few of

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<v Speaker 1>Roman's officers snuck into his camp. They fired shots and

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<v Speaker 1>tossed grenades at what they believed was his tent, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had picked the wrong one and killed one of

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<v Speaker 1>his orderlies instead. Hearing the commotion, Roman managed to escape.

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<v Speaker 1>He hopped on his horse and rode into the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>By mourning, he had run into his Mongol unit, and

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<v Speaker 1>together they began marching west. But it turns out the

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<v Speaker 1>Mongols were in on the assassination plan. After they lulled

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<v Speaker 1>him into a false sense of security, they jumped him

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<v Speaker 1>and tied him up. One Mongol soldier, perhaps exaggerating his

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<v Speaker 1>role in deposing Roman, said that he distracted Roman by

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<v Speaker 1>asking him for a light as they were riding. While

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<v Speaker 1>Roman looked for a match. The soldier says he tackled

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<v Speaker 1>Roman off his horse. In any case, Roman's once loyal

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<v Speaker 1>army turned on him, capturing him and turning him in

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<v Speaker 1>to the Reds. Roman expected that he would be executed

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<v Speaker 1>rather than submit to the same kind of torture he

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<v Speaker 1>perpetrated on his political enemies. He tried to take his

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<v Speaker 1>own life multiple times while in captivity. He tried to

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<v Speaker 1>drink the poison he always kept in his uniform pocket,

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<v Speaker 1>but it fell to the ground out of his reach

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<v Speaker 1>before he could grab it. He later tried to hang

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<v Speaker 1>himself with a pair of horses reins, but they were

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<v Speaker 1>too thick to budge. The Bolsheviks did not immediately call

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<v Speaker 1>for Roman's execution. Instead, they brought him back to the

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<v Speaker 1>western Siberian city of Nova Sybrisk for a trial. There

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<v Speaker 1>was no doubt that he would be found guilty, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had already admitted his guilt in their initial interrogation.

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<v Speaker 1>His death seemed so inevitable that, citing a Soviet news bulletin,

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<v Speaker 1>the New York Times reported his execution four days before

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<v Speaker 1>his trial. Still, the Soviet government wanted to use Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>who represented the most extreme version of the White cause,

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<v Speaker 1>as an example. Thousands of onlookers filled the Summer Pine

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<v Speaker 1>Theater on September fifteenth, nineteen twenty one to watch his trial.

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<v Speaker 1>He arrived on stage in an embellished yellow kaftan, the

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<v Speaker 1>same one he had worn when he had first invaded Mongolia.

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<v Speaker 1>Because he had already admitted guilt, the prosecution did not

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<v Speaker 1>spend much time grilling him about his military career. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>they attacked him personally. The prosecution asked if his family

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<v Speaker 1>owned large estates in the Baltic to which Roman responded,

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<v Speaker 1>probably not anymore. He then asked how long Roman's family

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<v Speaker 1>had held its noble status, and Roman replied one thousand years.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor's closing argument extended this line of questioning. He

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<v Speaker 1>said to the crowd, this trial of former Baron Ungern

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<v Speaker 1>is not only a trial of the person of Baron Ungern,

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<v Speaker 1>but a trial of an entire class of society that

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<v Speaker 1>is accustomed to ruling and would not give up its

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<v Speaker 1>power even if it were to mean the destruction of

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<v Speaker 1>half of humanity. Baron Ungern, who sits here on the

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<v Speaker 1>defendant's bench, is the main inspiration of countless others who

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<v Speaker 1>are tearing to pieces not only the body of the

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<v Speaker 1>Russian people, but of the peace peoples of the whole world.

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<v Speaker 1>He ended his speech with his preferred verdict, the death penalty. Quote.

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<v Speaker 1>This verdict must resound as a verdict of death on

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<v Speaker 1>all noblemen who tried to raise their hands against the

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<v Speaker 1>power of the workers and peasants, said the prosecutor. In

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<v Speaker 1>the face of such an impassioned political speech, and given

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<v Speaker 1>that Roman already pled guilty to the charges, the defense

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have much to work with. They mounted a flimsy

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<v Speaker 1>attempt to plead Roman's insanity, which Roman himself denied. Changing tactics,

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<v Speaker 1>the defense suggested that Roman had never been a great

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<v Speaker 1>danger to Soviet power in the first place. His attorney

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<v Speaker 1>dismissed Roman's ambitions as quote chaos, the products of quote

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<v Speaker 1>a sick imagination. But even the defense was resigned to

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<v Speaker 1>Roman's execution, saying it would be the easiest way to

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<v Speaker 1>end his sufferings, resembling the sympathy that we would show

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<v Speaker 1>for a sick animal end quote. The judge gave Roman

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<v Speaker 1>the last word before the verdict would be announced. He stated, simply,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot say anything more. Roman was sentenced to death

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<v Speaker 1>by firing squad, and he was shot the next morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Although both the prosecution and defense were ostensibly positioned against

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<v Speaker 1>each other, their accounts of Roman's life work well together.

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<v Speaker 1>Historians broadly agree with the defense's portrait of Roman, as

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<v Speaker 1>to put it, mildly, a chaotic person. His poorly thought

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<v Speaker 1>out plan in Mongolia was doomed from the start. He

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<v Speaker 1>was neither a particularly dangerous threat to Bolshevik Soviets nor

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<v Speaker 1>an asset to the Tsar. He was never a great tactics,

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<v Speaker 1>a great leader, or even a great soldier. The only

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<v Speaker 1>quality that his officers commended him for was his willingness

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<v Speaker 1>to dive headfirst into seemingly fruitless missions, which overall didn't

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<v Speaker 1>bode well for a long term military career. In the

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<v Speaker 1>face of his apparent mediocrity, Roman clutched onto his aristocratic

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<v Speaker 1>lineage for meaning. In every battle he fought in from

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<v Speaker 1>World War One to his disastrous campaign in Mongolia, he

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<v Speaker 1>believed that he was defending the monarchy. In his mind,

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<v Speaker 1>hierarchy was the only thing preventing the world from devolving

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<v Speaker 1>into utter disorder. This was certainly true for Roman himself.

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<v Speaker 1>He had spent his entire life coasting on his elite status,

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to do anything that seemed beneath him, even elementary

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<v Speaker 1>school homework, any political eye, ideology or religion. He entertained

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<v Speaker 1>worked downstream from his fundamental belief in his own superiority.

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<v Speaker 1>Fitting then that the prosecution convicted him not for his

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<v Speaker 1>actions as an individual, but as a symbol of his class. Ironically,

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<v Speaker 1>the very thing that animated his life, his devotion to

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<v Speaker 1>representing and defending his noble status, ultimately ended it. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the brutal Roman Ungern von Stenberg. But

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<v Speaker 1>stick around to hear how Roman may have used fortune

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<v Speaker 1>tellers to guide his military decisions. Roman Ungern von Stenberg was,

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<v Speaker 1>by all accounts a superstitious person. A number of memoirs

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<v Speaker 1>from his orderlies and contemporaries tell anecdotes about drawing playing

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<v Speaker 1>cards and meeting with psychics in order to determine his

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<v Speaker 1>next moves. He was even said to have included a

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<v Speaker 1>number of fortune tellers and prophets in his retinue during

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<v Speaker 1>his Mongolian campaign. Polish writer Ferdinand Osandowski, who traveled with

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<v Speaker 1>Roman throughout Mongolia, wrote that Roman left Urga for Siberia

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen twenty one, in part because of the interference

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<v Speaker 1>of fortune tellers. Osandowski apparently accompanied Roman to see one

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<v Speaker 1>fortune teller in Erga. According to him, quote, the fortune

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<v Speaker 1>teller was a little woman of middle years who squatted

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<v Speaker 1>down Eastern style before the brazier, bowed low and began

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<v Speaker 1>to stare at baron Ungern. She drew a small bag

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<v Speaker 1>very slowly from her girdle and took from it some

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<v Speaker 1>small bird bones and a handful of dry grass. She

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<v Speaker 1>began whispering at interval's unintelligible words as she threw occasional

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<v Speaker 1>handfuls of grass into the fire, which gradually filled the

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<v Speaker 1>tent with a soft fragrance. After the fortune teller had

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<v Speaker 1>burned all of her grass, she placed the bird bones

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<v Speaker 1>on the charcoal and turned them over again and again

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<v Speaker 1>with a small pair of bronze pincers. As the bones blackened,

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<v Speaker 1>she began to examine them, and then suddenly her face

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<v Speaker 1>took on an expression of fear and pain. She said

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<v Speaker 1>in fragments quote, I see, I see the god of war.

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<v Speaker 1>His life runs out. And it was at that point

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<v Speaker 1>that she fainted and was carried out by two of

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<v Speaker 1>her assistants. A long silence followed. Apparently Roman got up

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<v Speaker 1>and paced around the tent, saying to himself quote, I

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<v Speaker 1>shall die. I shall die, but no matter, no matter,

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<v Speaker 1>the cause has been launched and will not die. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>will extinguish the fire in the heart of the Mongols. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>apparently Roman raised his hand above his head, shouting, my

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<v Speaker 1>time has come. In a little while, I shall leave Erga.

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<v Speaker 1>With that, he exited the tent, slamming the irth door,

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<v Speaker 1>and Osandowshka wrote that he never saw Roman again. It's

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<v Speaker 1>hard to know what to make of this story. The

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<v Speaker 1>memoir that we're citing is a dubious source full of

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<v Speaker 1>sensational details and exaggerations. Historian James Palmer adds further ambiguity,

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<v Speaker 1>floating the idea that the fortune teller in Osandowska's story

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<v Speaker 1>may have been purposely trying to manipulate Rome. He wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible that the Mongolians played Ungern's own suspicions against him.

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<v Speaker 1>Eager to see the city rid of his men, it

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<v Speaker 1>would have been relatively simple and with some precedent, to

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<v Speaker 1>influence the oracles to push him in a certain direction.

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<v Speaker 1>End quote. Regardless of whether the story is true or

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<v Speaker 1>whether the fortune teller was purposefuly manipulating him. The story

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<v Speaker 1>aligns with how Roman viewed his military ambitions in extreme,

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<v Speaker 1>almost religious terms. He believed he was fighting a holy

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<v Speaker 1>war on behalf of the Czar, describing himself as someone

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<v Speaker 1>who quote strongly trusts in destiny. Noble Blood is a

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