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Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Luka Doncik is I think the best player

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Speaker 2: in basketball.

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Speaker 4: For me.

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Speaker 2: The peak of the show was when Fred was trying

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Speaker 2: to remember the name George Gottshe but couldn't, and all

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Speaker 2: he could do was say in his Jimmy Stewart voice

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Speaker 5: He used to call George Gatzi and they accent George

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Speaker 2: I consider Pritchard on the guy that comes off the bench.

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Speaker 5: He is a guy who comes off the bench that

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Speaker 2: Movie that I really liked that all you guys made

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Speaker 2: fun of me about Paul Do you remember wife for Quater?

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Speaker 2: You got it?

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Speaker 5: But what a memory he has as a diehard fan

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Speaker 5: and a Jew.

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Speaker 6: It makes me upset when we sit there and say

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Speaker 6: that all Christmas.

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Speaker 5: Movie like this is my time, It's Christmas season, Okay,

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Speaker 6: You want pizzat reginas, do you want palm?

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Speaker 5: Go to mother Anna's mother? Is it Mother Anna?

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Speaker 5: Right on the tough one.

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Speaker 1: It's pronounced pizza time.

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday, no Thursday,

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Speaker 2: here at a Less stadium.

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Speaker 5: I did the same thing.

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Speaker 2: And we're coming off in O t A yesterday, so

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Speaker 2: I wasn't able to go there. So I'm really excited

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Speaker 2: to hear what the three of you have to say.

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Speaker 2: And Evan, are you still upset? Like you know, tell

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Speaker 2: me everything. It's it's Deuce, it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me.

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Speaker 2: We're here for the next two hours on Patriots Unfiltered,

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Speaker 2: So let's let's get right into it. O t A

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Speaker 2: yesterday we had full access. What do you think? Yeah, Ethan,

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Speaker 6: So first of all, I do want to apologize to

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Speaker 6: Fred about our snarkiness about his NBA takes on Tuesday.

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Speaker 6: I don't I feel as though we we you know,

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Speaker 5: I don't think I made enough for the fun baseball

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Speaker 5: team that I see wanted to come off.

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're fun.

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Speaker 6: Just listening to us just you know, say absolutely not

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Speaker 6: to Luca doct just being the best player in the league.

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Speaker 5: I just felt a little it was a little mean.

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Speaker 6: Anyways, in terms of the OTAs, I like to pace

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Speaker 6: the practice a lot better this week, so I can

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Speaker 6: we can say that they they they checked off that

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Speaker 6: they were splitting up into both fields and running seven

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Speaker 6: on seven simultaneously. That's all I was asking for last week,

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Speaker 6: was you want to get your Koey Brissett ready to

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Speaker 6: be the starter. That's perfectly fine. I think we all

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Speaker 6: see that that that's the path that they're going down.

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Speaker 6: But you still need to find work for Drake May

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Speaker 6: during that time of practice, and you can't just be

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Speaker 2: Amazing. As they have more practices, they pick up the pace.

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Speaker 8: Who would have thought not Evan last week apparently we

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Speaker 8: had to do a show they needed more practices to

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Speaker 5: Maybe they should have come in when they were allowed to. Okay,

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Speaker 5: all right, anyway, well what you're the only one allowed

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Speaker 6: But anyway, anyway, Yeah, that was my my I know,

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Speaker 6: But I feel like if that what we saw yesterday

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Speaker 6: if that was a really good Drake May practice in

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Speaker 6: the day before, he threw six picks and we just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think they'll need to convince themselves. They'll

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Speaker 9: I know.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't you know, I mean, he made some place yesterday.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't anything you know, overwhelming, but it's just there.

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Speaker 2: And everyone glombed down to the no look pass.

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Speaker 1: Know, so overrated these days because you just said wants.

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Speaker 5: But now we have a guy that, yeah, I could anymore, right,

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Speaker 8: There's a couple throws and you know, he had a

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Speaker 1: I think he's got all the talent, you know, he

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Speaker 2: You see him throwing on the mass. I let's just

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Speaker 8: Be he couldn't. He's not that guy.

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Speaker 8: He's not six foot four two twenty super athletic and

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Speaker 5: A Super Bowl. But I'm just excited to watch this kid.

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Speaker 8: I think, you know, we've seen a little bit of

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Speaker 8: He's twenty one it's he's developing. I'm not gonna, you know,

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Speaker 8: And you know, I mean Evan, Evan did take it

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Speaker 8: You've got a quarterback with some potential now, and that

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Speaker 8: So that that's just I just like last night, I

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Speaker 1: I don't know how it's gonna go, but I'm excited

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Speaker 5: Paul, Yeah, I have the similar, similar kind of excitement

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Speaker 5: deep into what Jaws talker. We got interrupted a couple

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Speaker 5: over under on Drake May starts and I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 5: talking about plays. I leave that to the experts that

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Speaker 5: I could not tell you how many catches Javon Baker

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Speaker 5: Watching him move seems very fluid. I thought he showed

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Speaker 5: so he's maybe maybe one of those guys that plays

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Speaker 5: faster than his time. You know, we'll see. I mean again,

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Speaker 8: That was the same kind of feeling I had last

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Speaker 8: week's practice where the first time we watched him, I

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Speaker 8: didntals see, but I kind of felt the same thing

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Speaker 8: last practice and into this practice, and he's another one

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Speaker 8: where I just I want to see him.

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Speaker 1: I want to see the pads come on, you know.

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Speaker 1: That's that's like the.

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Speaker 8: Thing we always talking about, like I can't wait for

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Speaker 5: So in that regard, like on the flip side, fred

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Speaker 5: Mike's not going to let himself get hurt again now

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Speaker 5: I was protecting.

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Speaker 8: I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I mean, guy who from day one is your course?

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Speaker 5: At this stage. Probably, Yes, they tried to do it

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Speaker 2: Gotcha.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I thought his seven on seven session for Drake May,

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Speaker 2: You're getting people excited, You're getting all your minions excited.

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Speaker 5: It's not even So. Now I'm going to make a

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Speaker 5: Last week he wasn't doing it right. This week, I'm

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Speaker 1: Who are you to say he looked good.

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Speaker 5: He was a little in fuego.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the encouraging part you ever played quarterback before.

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Speaker 5: You even know what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: Because we've seen both. We've seen the ultimate accuracy in

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Speaker 1: And he's like, well, you know how it goes here,

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Speaker 1: at the quarterback.

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Speaker 5: And I would say from bouncing around to a handful

442
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Speaker 5: of the defensive assistant yesterday, I didn't hear it from

443
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Speaker 5: pell Agrino, but I would say that was the My

444
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Speaker 5: takeaway from all of them was there was you know,

445
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Speaker 5: it's like the newness Fred, It's like early you know,

446
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Speaker 5: like back. Everybody's sort of refreshed and ready to go.

447
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Speaker 5: And I think there is sort of a lot of

448
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Speaker 5: these guys, you know, Pelaguino's not one of them, but

449
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Speaker 5: a lot of these guys it's new for them. Yeah,

450
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Speaker 5: so they are sort of fresh and excited and full

451
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Speaker 5: of hope.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I also would say just a little tip to Evan

454
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Speaker 8: who highlighted saying, you know, Brian Belichick's going.

455
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Speaker 1: To talk today, that's probably And I was like, yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: good idea.

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Speaker 8: So you know, I wrote up Brian, which which got

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Speaker 8: you know a little bit a little bit of traction,

459
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Speaker 8: but it was, you know, good write up.

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Speaker 1: I think like it was just good to hear from him,

461
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Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's a good kid.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, he just seems like he's always bringing

463
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Speaker 8: up his wife and his kid and you know, his

464
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Speaker 8: personal life and how much how important.

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Speaker 3: That is to him.

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Speaker 8: But I thought he did a good job, you know.

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Speaker 8: And it was also weird seeing Steve there yesterday too,

468
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Speaker 8: So it just feels like it's.

469
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Speaker 1: Thawing a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Came to visit all the you know, all the just like, oh,

471
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Speaker 5: you know.

472
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Speaker 8: These two camps, like it just doesn't It feels like

473
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Speaker 8: people are realizing, like, you know, there was going to

474
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Speaker 8: be a period after the last few years that everybody

475
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Speaker 8: kind of was pissed at Bill. But I think we're

476
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Speaker 8: all kind of coming around, and personally, it's just it's

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Speaker 8: it's cool that Brian's still here. It's cool that there's

478
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Speaker 8: still a Belichick in the building, and you know, you

479
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Speaker 8: really you're starting to get that historical perspective of what

480
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Speaker 8: Bill did here for whatever it was twenty three years.

481
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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, that's just it's it's as he said,

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Speaker 8: I think the uh, you know, the standard was established

483
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Speaker 8: here and and that's what they're trying to get back to.

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Speaker 8: So I'm glad that we're getting back to a point

485
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Speaker 8: where we can you know, dismiss with all the you know,

486
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Speaker 8: controversies and all the things that happened and just kind

487
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Speaker 8: of appreciate Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Patty Chung in the house yesterday.

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Speaker 8: Patty Chung. Okay, Paddy Chung. And I've in fears of course,

490
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Speaker 8: just yet.

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Speaker 2: I can't kick him.

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Speaker 5: I'd want to.

493
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Speaker 2: But some people they retire, they go down to the

494
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Speaker 2: neighborhood coffee shop and hang out. You know. He comes

495
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Speaker 2: to the practice.

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Speaker 5: So I didn't see him. Will you with me? When

497
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Speaker 5: I was was I was kind of like busting those

498
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Speaker 5: balls a little bit in the tunnel, probably like two

499
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Speaker 5: weeks ago. He's walking, he's walking back from the field.

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Speaker 5: I go, you know, I don't think you understand how

501
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Speaker 5: this is supposed to work. He just started laughing. I go,

502
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Speaker 5: you gotta leave, know right, like you need to go fishing, right.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's got golf.

504
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Speaker 1: I know his wife wants to be funny.

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Speaker 5: He's here. Where are you going here all the time?

506
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Speaker 5: Go back to the stadium.

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Speaker 1: You know, you just always see him kind of with

508
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Speaker 1: that little amble that he's got.

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Speaker 5: But good, good, good guy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I was surprised though, to see to see Steve pop up.

512
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Speaker 1: We weren't sure it was.

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Speaker 5: I was a little surprised to see him, yeah, because

514
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Speaker 5: it was funny because I said, I go, it looks

515
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Speaker 5: just like Steve Belichick. I said it to Mike, like

516
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Speaker 5: I thought you were kidding, And I'm like, oh, I said,

517
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Speaker 5: that looks just like Steve Belichick. Well, I mean, and

518
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Speaker 5: I do think he looked like he put on a.

519
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Speaker 6: Little weight that or he has got the ponytail, he

520
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Speaker 6: had extra extra hoodie, he had some layers. Oni No,

521
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Speaker 6: I like, he looked just like And I was, like,

522
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Speaker 6: I said to Mike, it was like right away in practice,

523
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Speaker 6: like five minutes into pricice that Belichick.

524
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Speaker 5: Then like ten minutes last like, I think that's Steve Belichick.

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Speaker 2: We're pretty sure Bill will be here for Brady Day.

526
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Speaker 5: You know. I can oh, he wouldn't miss that.

527
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Speaker 2: Percentages that he will show up for a training camp.

528
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Speaker 2: Bill and Paul talked about that.

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Speaker 8: I think, so I bet he does.

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Speaker 5: I bet he does see I don't think he'll be

531
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Speaker 5: on the field so people see him. I think percentages that.

532
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Speaker 5: Do you remember this thing like last week where Mayo

533
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Speaker 5: told some people that Tony Dungee was here. He actually

534
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Speaker 5: talked about it a little, Yes, addressed the team now

535
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Speaker 5: eliminate the Mayo told everybody that Bill Belichick was here part.

536
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Speaker 5: I wouldn't be surprised if Bill came in and saw

537
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Speaker 5: the team talk to the team behind the you know,

538
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Speaker 5: behind the scenes. That wouldn't I'm not telling you it's

539
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Speaker 5: going to happen in year one, but I wouldn't be

540
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Speaker 5: stunned to hear that news. I would be stunned if

541
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Speaker 5: Bill was okay with Gerard talking about it. I don't

542
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Speaker 5: think that would happen. And I'm not sure that we'd

543
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Speaker 5: see him at practice because now everybody sees him, and

544
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Speaker 5: I don't think he wants that.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I put it at zero zero, not because there's

546
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Speaker 6: any like animosity between those two guys, but you got

547
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Speaker 6: to put some separation, like you can't if he's starting different,

548
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Speaker 6: Like if you start like Bill starts coming around practic

549
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Speaker 6: this and stuff like that, Like just.

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Speaker 2: Now you make it like, yeah, I'm just talking about one.

551
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Speaker 5: I'm talking about one day.

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Speaker 6: No, I know, but I just I don't think that

553
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Speaker 6: not this year. Yeah, maybe maybe like in the future

554
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Speaker 6: of Drod has some success, like and you know, the

555
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Speaker 6: thing is starting to point in the right direction.

556
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Speaker 5: Like yeah, I just like I could never see it

557
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Speaker 5: happening the way these things have happened so far where

558
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Speaker 5: they've been so public, right, I could never see that,

559
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Speaker 5: like in other words, it could happen, we would never

560
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Speaker 5: find out about it.

561
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Speaker 2: But I I like the fact that Steve feels comfortable coming.

562
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Speaker 2: I think he should be welcome. Yeah, of course it

563
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Speaker 2: seems like job.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, it seems like he had a few

565
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Speaker 6: Washington staffers with him, so maybe he wanted to like

566
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Speaker 6: show them the NFL practice and you know that sort

567
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Speaker 6: of thing.

568
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Speaker 5: So left the meadowlands. Oh no, sorry, that was that

569
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Speaker 5: was snarky Fred again.

570
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, all right? Eight five five paths five hundred.

571
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Speaker 2: Is the a stick and outline web radio at Patriots

572
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Speaker 2: dot com? Is it mail address? Anything else? Patriots wise?

573
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

574
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Speaker 8: I mean, there's always like little nuggets that I feel

575
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Speaker 8: like I jot down that probably might or may not

576
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Speaker 8: be interested to anybody.

577
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Speaker 5: But produces dimebag.

578
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Speaker 8: Deuce's dimebag didn't happen yesterday. But you know, I just

579
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Speaker 8: I would say Juju Douglas and uh and Thornton and

580
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Speaker 8: Osborne kind of with the top group, you know, rookies,

581
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Speaker 8: notok Hall of.

582
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Speaker 2: Fame group, not the Hall of Fame group anymore. When

583
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Speaker 2: Gronk and Moss.

584
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Speaker 5: And was separate thing with just Brady when like they

585
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Speaker 5: were doing special teams right Like Brady was like me,

586
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Speaker 5: he had no time.

587
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Speaker 1: For it was like this is the witch.

588
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Speaker 8: Veterans can actually play group, but you know, just for

589
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Speaker 8: people for for people wondering, you know, or always.

590
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Speaker 1: Polk and Baker in the mix with the not yet.

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Speaker 8: Really so that's one thing. It's you know, it's good,

592
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Speaker 8: they're gonna make fun of it. But I I just

593
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Speaker 8: I like seeing Drake may work with Polk and Baker.

594
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Speaker 8: After every practice they seem like they're out there having

595
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Speaker 8: a great Baker.

596
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Speaker 5: Fun of that. Everybody records like breathlessly on Twitter every

597
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Speaker 5: time it happens. No, like it does numbers.

598
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Speaker 1: So no, I just said that, you know, those are

599
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Speaker 1: the kind of things that.

600
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Speaker 8: Not that they're doing it to be showy, but I

601
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Speaker 8: feel like people use that almost like the no Look past,

602
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Speaker 8: as examples of well that was cool, this must be great, right,

603
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Speaker 8: and it's like cool things don't necessarily make me quality.

604
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Speaker 2: I mean, they want to have as much time together

605
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Speaker 2: as possible to get it. But like I remember when

606
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Speaker 2: the Texans were here for uh or, I don't know

607
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Speaker 2: if they were here, or it was just reporting on

608
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Speaker 2: the practice. JJ Watt would stay after practice with the

609
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Speaker 2: tire and like just myself doing those things.

610
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Speaker 1: Performative, and you know he was a little that way.

611
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Speaker 11: You know, I don't think this is performance certainly, whether

612
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Speaker 11: there was no no so one of the best NFL

613
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Speaker 11: the only one, just one of the best NFL defensive

614
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Speaker 11: linement of all time was performative.

615
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Speaker 5: But the rookie is working with the rookie receivers.

616
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Speaker 2: Does he does he really have to stay after practice

617
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Speaker 2: to like turnver?

618
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Speaker 6: You know, maybe that's why it's gonna be a first ballot.

619
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Speaker 8: I hear what you're saying.

620
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Speaker 6: I know you.

621
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Speaker 5: I just I would just separate the like the sort

622
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Speaker 5: of insufferable personality that you probably don't like with him

623
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Speaker 5: and actually working hard and being a good player.

624
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Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, well sometimes it was it was on hard

625
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 8: knocks what we're talking about.

626
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Speaker 6: And and I will I agree with you, but I

627
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 6: think they made him do it again, you think to

628
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: film it with it like I think they might have

629
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Speaker 6: missed it.

630
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Speaker 5: So it was like it was like the sun was

631
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Speaker 5: setting that that's going anywhere to go? Do you remember

632
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 5: the Tim Tebow stuff like when he was with the Jets,

633
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 5: and he'd have like you know, the you know, the

634
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Speaker 5: span dex top on and it be raining and he's

635
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Speaker 5: running like it's like on a like a Danielle Still

636
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Speaker 5: novel from like you know, Fabio days.

637
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Speaker 2: Right, the winds blowing is much hair. But you know

638
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Speaker 2: what I mean, I know what you exactly what you mean.

639
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: It was very dramatic.

640
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Speaker 5: Dramatic is a good word, dramatic. But I do like it.

641
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I do like that he's trying to form some time.

642
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 5: I like our drama.

643
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: I like our drama.

644
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 2: I like it just it's useful drama.

645
00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, but it makes forget no, it makes

646
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,440
Speaker 8: for It could actually help them, it makes.

647
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 5: For great you know.

648
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 8: The final tweet Mike Reese, like you know, twenty minutes

649
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 8: after practice, you know, like those kind of scene center

650
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Speaker 8: right right.

651
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 5: I don't like this.

652
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Speaker 6: I don't like that Mike is off limits for the

653
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 6: rest of the media bashing. We do not do that toshing.

654
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:34,680
Speaker 6: I tease Mike for that stuff all the time.

655
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Speaker 2: Is Mike still reporting on the music being played?

656
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: Or Oh, that's a good question. I haven't seen it.

657
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 6: You can't step into that territory or the people will

658
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 6: come after.

659
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 5: You, I know, but are like, that's Mike.

660
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it though. No, that's a good question.

661
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 5: I wonder if he's a go's some rolling Stones yesterday?

662
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, you know they are. Of course, they're here

663
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 5: here to perform tonight.

664
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,200
Speaker 6: They usually they do that a lot, Like if there's

665
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 6: a concert, they'll play the music.

666
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 8: It's a theme, yeah, a theme going.

667
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I'm over sixty, so I was offered a seat

668
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 2: up front, but I'm gonna go.

669
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 8: Yeah, I've seen the Stones. You seen the Stones? Stones?

670
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: You've never seen the Stones?

671
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 5: No, I don't see anybody you know that?

672
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 2: Really? I thought you used to go to concerts.

673
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 5: No, No, I've been to like two two once. You've

674
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 5: seen like both both under duress.

675
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: If you were allowed to be live at the concert,

676
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 2: but in a recliner with a remote control, would you

677
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 2: go that sounds nice?

678
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 6: I just.

679
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 5: I love I would never go see them in concert, Yeah,

680
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 5: some some close. I saw them after a super Bowl

681
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 5: a concert. No, No, but you're super Bowl.

682
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: It's a private their point of view, You're you're like

683
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: one of the band.

684
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 5: Though, right, And I just don't really love live music.

685
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 5: I know people swear by it like Matt Matt Smith,

686
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 5: I've had some will be staying here tonight. You know

687
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 5: it probably in the uh the AARP section that Fred

688
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 5: talked about.

689
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: But everybody's gonna be saying he.

690
00:28:59,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 5: Loves live music.

691
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 2: We were, we were at how many times has he

692
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 2: seen Springsteen?

693
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 12: Oh?

694
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: A lot thrown men about the Springsteen. Though Springsteen, they

695
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 2: have no right to make fun of the Swifties because

696
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 2: these Springsteen guys are just as bad as the teenagers.

697
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 5: Now, I will defend Matt a little bit. I don't

698
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 5: think you'd see Matt making fun of Swifties. I think

699
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 5: he understands the same along what you just talked to

700
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: me gets it. It's the same.

701
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,239
Speaker 8: I got some of those guys, and they're about as

702
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 8: far from like blue collar Jersey Shore as you could

703
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 8: ever get. And I'd like if there's always a discons.

704
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 5: Well, if you've ever covered Major League Baseball, for example,

705
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 5: you're one of those guys.

706
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 6: Pete Abraham's been to like seventy gives you the set list.

707
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I never got it. I mean, I like, I

708
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 8: like Bruce Springsteen. I like a couple of the songs,

709
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 8: but I you know, I don't have a.

710
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 5: He just speaks to my soul.

711
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,360
Speaker 8: I don't. I don't know.

712
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: I get to be honest, you you tease me about that.

713
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 5: I kind of I'm jealous of that that it doesn't

714
00:29:57,240 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 5: speak to me in that way. I don't hear this, Yeah,

715
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 5: and you know, in this desire to hear it live

716
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 5: and listening to Jimmy just here.

717
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 8: Yes, you can't hear Jimmy's perfectly.

718
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: I've been to a Springsteen concert with one of those people,

719
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: me too, and it's it's it's more a revival than

720
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 2: a concert. Like everybody in the whole place. This is

721
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: that the TV Garden is singing every song like it's

722
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 2: it's a revival. It's not, you know, it's like a

723
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 2: community type of feeling. I didn't care, but I.

724
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:33,720
Speaker 1: When were you in New Jersey?

725
00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 8: Like you didn't you live in Jersey for a bit?

726
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,239
Speaker 5: Like it was when did a New Jersey team win

727
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 5: the title? Yeah, sixty nine.

728
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 2: I moved out of New Jersey? What was it seventy two?

729
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 8: All right, so a little bit before he was kind

730
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 8: of coming in. Yeah.

731
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: Now, no, I saw I saw Bruce in Jersey, which

732
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: is with some of those people, And.

733
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 5: This wasn't like a Bruce specific thing. I'm just jealous

734
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 5: of the people that feel that, like they that the

735
00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: entered Mike Reese. Back back to Mike Mike Reese to

736
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 5: see all different kinds of people, very eclectic music taste

737
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 5: seventy four. He loves the live aspect of the music

738
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 5: and he just appreciates you saw the musicians and you know,

739
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 5: the ambiance, the atmosphere. It's lost on me. I'm kind

740
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: of jealous about like, I don't I know, you make

741
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 5: fun of me all the time. I literally I went

742
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 5: to a Journey concert when I was in college my

743
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 5: freshman year of college, only because everybody was going and

744
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: I had nothing else to do, and I was like,

745
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 5: all right, I'll go. It was a free ticket, and

746
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 5: under duress, I had to go see the Dave Matthews

747
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 5: band because my girlfriend loved Dave Matthews and she made

748
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 5: me go Oh's and that led to the and that

749
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: was the beginning of the end of that marching live

750
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 5: Oh that he's great live.

751
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 6: Yeah.

752
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 5: I mean again, I'm jealous of it that someone could

753
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 5: not actually hear that and say, oh, that would be

754
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 5: great if you're at.

755
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: A concert where you like the music and you and

756
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: you have good seats Yeah, it's it's fun.

757
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 8: I would say eighty percent of the concerts I'd go to.

758
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 8: By the time I'm there, I'm like, I can't wait

759
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 8: to get out of here. There's a small number of them,

760
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 8: Like there was one I saw at the Greek Theater,

761
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 8: which is awesome, sat thing, but that was it, like

762
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,960
Speaker 8: good seats, sat down, not crowded, good music did wasn't

763
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 8: like crowded by tons of people and mosh pits and

764
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 8: all that.

765
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 5: But yeah, it's rare.

766
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 2: I don't cat it.

767
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,360
Speaker 8: I'm the same way you are. Probably I wish I

768
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 8: wish I could go to a concert meeting. This is

769
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 8: an amazing experience with most of them. Kind of like, man,

770
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 8: I'm a concert guy. I've seen a lot of concerts,

771
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 8: music festivals, not as music festivals. I've retired from Newport

772
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 8: Jazz Festival.

773
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, I've retired from that.

774
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 6: They can't do music festivals anymore. That was my my

775
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 6: younger years.

776
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: Lollapalooza.

777
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 1: I saw a Lollapaloozer too.

778
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it's great Woods.

779
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: It is fun.

780
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 8: So it's great Woods.

781
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 2: All right. So back to football. So Mike had a point,

782
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 2: what's on's the next open?

783
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 8: Practice Tuesday, Tuesday, which will affect our show.

784
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 2: He's the fourth.

785
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, uh yeah, yeah, it's the fourth.

786
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're gonna have to We'll probably start the

787
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: show late that day so that we can come right

788
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 2: off the field and talk about.

789
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: There you go talk about it, see some progression.

790
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 5: So, speaking of things that we just talked about, I

791
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 5: thought Mike brought up a good point. Ev and I

792
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 5: didn't touch base with you on this.

793
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 6: To see if you have watched practice separately, Yes.

794
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: But I think sometimes you get different perspectives when you

795
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 5: do that. The Jalen Hawkins guy, now he's not a

796
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: you know, a young guy. He's not. He's like a

797
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: fifty year guy. He's been been in the league a

798
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 5: little bit. There's a lot of talk not I mean

799
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 5: not a ton, but some talk about still searching for

800
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: that mccordy type free safety, and it looks like he

801
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 5: might be getting some opportunities to fill that kind of

802
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: wearing thirty two. Yeah, that's how this all started because

803
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 5: we actually, Mike and I determined that he's actually wearing

804
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: Devin mccordy shirt.

805
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: They didn't even watch it.

806
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 2: I like that.

807
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 5: I hate that even more. It's actually the same thing.

808
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 5: I think I have a problem with this.

809
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: Now.

810
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: Granted it's ninety man roster, it's it's it's OTAs. They

811
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 6: have to hand out numbers to everybody.

812
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: I get it. Nobody should be wearing thirty.

813
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Two or eighty seven. Okay, well Fred, they should be

814
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: wearing proceeds. Yeah, I mean come on, like, where do

815
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: you draw the line?

816
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 5: I mean draw the line. There's only one number that

817
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:09,560
Speaker 5: should never be won, twelve.

818
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 6: Anyway we're speaking up, I should be yesterday.

819
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 5: I'm not saying you have to retire it.

820
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 2: I'm officially yeah, maybe seventy six, seventy two, what was Hannah,

821
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: seventy three, seventy three.

822
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 8: No, we were doing attendance yesterday and Paul's you know,

823
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 8: calling out numbers, and I was like, yeah, I just I.

824
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Just don't see twelve out there yet, like making the joke.

825
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 5: And yeah, and I go, we have I go, they

826
00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 5: gave twelve? Weelve?

827
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 2: Who's twelve?

828
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 5: Like that's how little did you see twelve? O them?

829
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 5: I'm like, I said it like four times. I literally

830
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,759
Speaker 5: said it four times. And I was like, they didn't

831
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 5: go out twelve.

832
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: And then you like the look on your faces like

833
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: oh you playing me like that, guy roll A Fred,

834
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't like.

835
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:47,879
Speaker 5: I don't like you got eighty seven either.

836
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: Just for the record, Yeah, I don't know that one.

837
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 5: But is there ever going to be a time where

838
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 5: you were allowed to do that? Like twelve? I get yeah,

839
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I'm over it. I'm forty. I mean love Devin. Yeah,

840
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 5: at least it didn't even played last year.

841
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,600
Speaker 6: It's to me, Devin McCarty is bigger than football. Like,

842
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 6: I think Devin McCarty is like one of the best

843
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 6: people that's ever walked through this building.

844
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, and I think that there's and he's recognized

845
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 5: as such.

846
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 6: I think that in other sports that would be recognized

847
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 6: even bigger.

848
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 2: If this is not one of your argument, no one

849
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 2: ever should be Devin mccorty. I get that, But his

850
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:22,400
Speaker 2: number is different.

851
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:23,759
Speaker 5: That's just the way I feel.

852
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 6: I just feel that his number, like I feel Devin

853
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 6: McCarty is like one of the an all time great Patriots.

854
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Agreed.

855
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I have no argument on that. I love.

856
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 2: But to me, the retiring of a number is here,

857
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 2: it has to be on the pantheon, it has to

858
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 2: be Mount Olympus.

859
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 6: You know.

860
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: Ring of honors are different. Halls of fame are different.

861
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 2: But when you retire a number, it should be the

862
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 2: elite of the elite for the team. Yeah.

863
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 6: I don't think Jalen Hawkins is gonna is gonna wear

864
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 6: thirty two in a game. I don't think that necessarily,

865
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 6: And but if he did, I'd at least like to

866
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 6: hope that he would like call Devid and be like, hey,

867
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 6: is it cool?

868
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 5: If I were you, this is like, really, this is

869
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 5: really getting fre it. I could just see Fred's face.

870
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 2: I dis.

871
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 5: Here's what one observation though from this stuff and related

872
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 5: to numbers, they clearly have gone out of their way.

873
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 5: In the past. There used to be numerous duplicate numbers,

874
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 5: and it wasn't just because of the rookies in the fifties.

875
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 5: There's only one set of duplicate numbers right now, twenty nine.

876
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: There's a twenty nine offense and defense. So you know,

877
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 5: part of that is you have to make sure that

878
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 5: someone's wearing eleven and someone's wearing thirty two. And absolutely,

879
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 5: you know, I totally agree.

880
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 6: Whatever else, I think, I feel the same way about

881
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 6: watching who's a tight end that's wearing it? Now? No

882
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 6: Will Cox we running around wearing eighty seven.

883
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: Do you think we'll ever get to the point in

884
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: the NFL where they have triple numbers, I'm number one,

885
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 2: thirty two.

886
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 6: Or like put a put a descipel point. Yeah, well

887
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 6: that might be thirty three point five.

888
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 2: That'd be hard to read.

889
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: But you just have hard work some letters and maybe

890
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: like I'm thirty two b pi PI, yeah.

891
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: Three point one four, I'm thirty two squared.

892
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 8: Oh man.

893
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean like if people keep if Evan was

894
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: on GMS of these teams with all the numbers you've retired,

895
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 2: you'd have to get into the trouble.

896
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 5: No, no, I just think that there's a lot of teams.

897
00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: I'm negative four.

898
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 6: There's a lot of teams, like the Houston Texans are

899
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: not going to have a bunch of numbers retired because

900
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 6: they don't have a bunch of Hall of Fame level players.

901
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 5: The Patriots are not one of those teams.

902
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 2: But if you were, you were, if you were, you know,

903
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: Art Rooney, you wouldn't have any numbers left in the Steelers.

904
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: Could you retire them all?

905
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: I no, No, you like the Steelers.

906
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 6: If we're gonna let all those guys in the Hall

907
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 6: of Fame, then wiring our guys in the Hall of Fame.

908
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 8: Yeah, although I say, I will say there are playing

909
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 8: some random Patriots games the last couple of days on

910
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 8: NFL Network, which I flipped onto the two thousand.

911
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: And one Space Odyssey a C Championship.

912
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 8: But it's funny because like I'm like, oh, Richard Seymour

913
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 8: Hall of Famer, Tyler hall of Famer.

914
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,720
Speaker 1: You know, all of a sudden, just like that, you realize,

915
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: like and just like that, this is a this was

916
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, a lot of Yeah, there was

917
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: a lot of talent.

918
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 8: It was as much as you kind of wanted to

919
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 8: be like, oh, they were all right, but now in

920
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 8: perspective they are one of the all.

921
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: Time great defenses.

922
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: And wait, which team was this?

923
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 8: Sorry one against Pittsburgh game was on, and man Cordell

924
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 8: Steort was getting frustrated, like he just I mean, I

925
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 8: like throwing those games on every once in a while

926
00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 8: where you get the broadcast so you know, you get

927
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 8: the whole feel of the game, and you know, it's

928
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 8: not just like watching the highlights.

929
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 2: So I remember being at that game here at Foxborough

930
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: and the amount of Steelers fans that were here, like

931
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 2: just so confident.

932
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 8: Which game is out in one against the Steelers.

933
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 6: No, this on Pittsburgh, the Tory Brown and the part

934
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 6: he's talking about it regular season game.

935
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 2: No, when we played them in the playoffs. Oh that

936
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 2: was ninety six, Yeah, ninety six, when we played the

937
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 2: Steelers in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The amount of

938
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Steelers fans that were here, like and loud and proud

939
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 2: and they had their you know, their steel helmet on

940
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: and you know, the beer can on the top and

941
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,959
Speaker 2: just like, you know, this is our house.

942
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 5: This is one I can't remember this because I was

943
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,919
Speaker 5: here and it's one of my very foggy as a fan,

944
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 5: like you know, fanboy, it's one of my favorite games.

945
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 5: I go all Evan on this one.

946
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that.

947
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 5: That game, it was incredible.

948
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: I think one of the fair was wasn't one of

949
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: the first plays the bomb to Terry Glenn.

950
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

951
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: You couldn't really see anything though, was.

952
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, but luckily that bomb came in my side. The

953
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 5: one I lost was the Curtis Martin long touchdown run.

954
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 5: He ran around the end and then all of a

955
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 5: sudden we lost him and then we heard this like

956
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 5: roar from the other end of the stadium, like, I

957
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 5: guess he scored. It's like a seventy five yard touch.

958
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: It's been some huge plays that you have been in

959
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: the stadium for Paul.

960
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 2: That you never never saw see.

961
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, but there was another game like that with the fog.

962
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 5: It was like a random Thursday night game against Atlanta.

963
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I remember that because you'll know too is ruined.

964
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 5: Oh I remember, Yeah, that's right, there was there was

965
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 5: stuff that you couldn't see in that game.

966
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I remember skycamp You had to use this.

967
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, for a while in that game,

968
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: the only one the network could use was the skycam

969
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 2: camera because it was low enough.

970
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 6: Where what year was that twenty sixteen, fifteen, like somewhere

971
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 6: in that range.

972
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was before Atlanta got pretty good. Oh, Julio Jones,

973
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 5: because Jones was there.

974
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 6: It was the game after twenty was after okay, Julio Jones.

975
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 6: Most Malcolm Butler in that game, And I think I

976
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 6: want to say it was twenty sixteen.

977
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: I think it might be seventeen.

978
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 5: Was Malcolm Butler still here in seventeen? Well, Butler definitely

979
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 5: got he got beat. It was an unbelievable catch by

980
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 5: who true.

981
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 2: L from Wisconsin. All right, I have a hot take

982
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: a number retiring. You shouldn't do it. I don't mind this.

983
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: Someone has d max number. I don't mind that someone

984
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 2: has eighty seven. In fact, I think it would be

985
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 2: cool if we have an established quarterback. They gave them

986
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: twelve as a rite of passage. Number traditions are way

987
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 2: cooler than retiring numbers.

988
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 5: I wholeheardly agree with that.

989
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: I thin fifty five they do a nine backer at USC.

990
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 5: The way they do it in college, I think is

991
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 5: the right way. Forty four at Syracuse is the special number.

992
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: And they kind of have to do that because they

993
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 2: have one hundred guys on the.

994
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: Team, right, but they're actually allowed to have doubles.

995
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was seventeen seventeen.

996
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I obviously wholeheartedly disagree twenty three with the number retired.

997
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, the Patriots. I mean you can beat them

998
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 5: soundly that night.

999
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 2: Yea, you can disagree, but you're wrong, but you can.

1000
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: I just you know, like I said, I'm four number retiring,

1001
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 2: but it has to be reserved for just you know,

1002
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 2: the best of the best.

1003
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, No, I'm with you, not good guys.

1004
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 2: I think we're on Ti guys are great. Put him

1005
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 2: in the Patriots Hall of Fame.

1006
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, we're team just twelve, right, like we just

1007
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 1: will I'm.

1008
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 6: Not necessarily even to retire thirty two or any I'm

1009
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 6: just saying, like I it's like one of those things,

1010
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 6: like like Tip's number is not technically retired, but no

1011
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 6: one ever wears it, right, you know, like it's just

1012
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 6: like it's that sort of thing where it's just like

1013
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 6: if you're gonna wear that, you're.

1014
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 5: Sure on that.

1015
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,319
Speaker 1: It's a weird thing.

1016
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 5: It's a weird it's not in the book.

1017
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: It's weird.

1018
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, they thought I thought it was. They stopped

1019
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: doing it. They stopped retiring.

1020
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 5: At Armstrong, right. I think Tip was before that.

1021
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: No, No, he was still wasn't he kind of still

1022
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:31,880
Speaker 2: doing something.

1023
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: I'm strong played when Belichick was here, I know.

1024
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1025
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:36,760
Speaker 5: Tip didn't play for Belichick.

1026
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 2: I don't think.

1027
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 5: I don't know, but he was. I don't think Tip's

1028
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 5: number hips last year was ninety three.

1029
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,920
Speaker 2: We've talked about this, Yeah, we have talked about it. Yeah,

1030
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 2: but he was in the scouting department for a little bit.

1031
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:46,439
Speaker 2: I don't know how long that lasts.

1032
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 5: Think it's but that has nothing to do with his numbers.

1033
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 5: I know, but this is a stacy question, I thinkyeah, yeah, no,

1034
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 5: I mean, if you could throw me that book.

1035
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I love.

1036
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 8: I'd love to get firm confirmation because we've had this

1037
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 8: conversation a couple of times and there's it's seems something like.

1038
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 5: But I don't like maybe they're retired or don't time right,

1039
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 5: And to me, the cutoff should be Hall of Fame.

1040
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like pro football Hall of Fame. The mistake

1041
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: was made with the Sullivans. They started doing this before

1042
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 2: the team had ever done it.

1043
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 6: If you get a number, that's right, Fred's absolutely, you know,

1044
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 6: just I do agree with Fred's take on because they

1045
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 6: had no they had no tradition, and they tried to

1046
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 6: they tried to develop one. Like I love watching it all.

1047
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 6: Flip through this book right now.

1048
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 5: This is classic. I mean, instead of just going to

1049
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 5: like the table contents, which would be easier.

1050
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 1: Googling, it never really works out when tried.

1051
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,840
Speaker 5: I do not trust Google at all. I don't Google.

1052
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 6: Well, yeah, I know that's yeah. No, no one's ever

1053
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 6: worn fifty six ince tip.

1054
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: Everyone's just afraid of them.

1055
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 8: That hasn't even been retired.

1056
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: That's fair.

1057
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to tell them it's not retired.

1058
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: All right?

1059
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 6: Eight should be retired by five past five hundred.

1060
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 2: Sounds like a good time to open it up to

1061
00:43:57,320 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 2: our listeners. Alan is in Chicago. What's up, Allen? Alan?

1062
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 8: I'm just not there.

1063
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 2: Can't wait to get the new phone system. What's the

1064
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 2: timetable on that? Matt Morrell just.

1065
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 7: Got the last letters of authorization for our international numbers

1066
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 7: put into John o'holler and up top.

1067
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 2: Okay, and then once we have that, how long it.

1068
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 5: Should be up after that?

1069
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: As soon as vonage processes of that, So like in

1070
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: ten minutes or.

1071
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 5: And I mean I don't know.

1072
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 7: I'll have long vanage takes.

1073
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,280
Speaker 2: It could be ten minutes, it'll be twenty days, all right, Okay,

1074
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: so so.

1075
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: It might be the end of the show it's inmin it,

1076
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,439
Speaker 1: but maybe not till camp right.

1077
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 7: Okay, the paperwork has officially been filled out, all of it,

1078
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 7: all right?

1079
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 2: Triplicate can't wait?

1080
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 5: Nice?

1081
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 2: So when that happens, do we get a new contract

1082
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,879
Speaker 2: system or how does that work?

1083
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, you'll have a new screener in there, a new screener.

1084
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 2: I have to learn that it's just a mouse. Still,

1085
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: I still make mistakes. Eldred's in North Carolina? What's up,

1086
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 2: Eldred bigg Day?

1087
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 8: All right, all right?

1088
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 5: It says on on for whatever it's worth on the

1089
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 5: Internet that fifty six is retired, but doesn't say when.

1090
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 5: But Bruce Armstrong it doesn't say when either, and Fred

1091
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 5: and I were there when that happened, because that was

1092
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 5: a mistake. Yeah, well I grew.

1093
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 13: I grew. Brady number should be repaired or retire. Excuse me,

1094
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 13: because he's the best of the best ever. I gotta

1095
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:30,240
Speaker 13: just greet you by mc cordy.

1096
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 6: I'm sorry if I'm not saying you should be retiring.

1097
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 6: I've said this multiple times. I've said I don't want

1098
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 6: it in circulation.

1099
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 2: We yeah, wearing it. Yeah, that's it. You don't need

1100
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: to do the whole ceremony. It's fine.

1101
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 13: He's one of the guys, one of the guys. He's

1102
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 13: not the Joe like like Brady would. I gotta disagree

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Speaker 13: is a degree, okay, But Paul, you'll take earlier about

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Speaker 13: all the positive you know, people gonna change mine mind

1105
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 13: still will be the same, because in short, wait till

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Speaker 13: the past, when the Buddhist plot.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I was just talking about Evan liked the practice today.

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00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 5: Last week he got a lot of static because he

1109
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 5: didn't like the practice, didn't care he wasn't doing he

1110
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 5: wasn't doing it right last week.

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Speaker 2: This week he is.

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Speaker 13: I agree with him. Last week, I agree with the

1113
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 13: same thing. You got ninety players. Let nobody stand around.

1114
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 13: They got to do throw, you know, especially him because

1115
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,800
Speaker 13: he needs some work. But if you come out like

1116
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 13: I told Evan the other day, if you come out

1117
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,879
Speaker 13: like ever, say what, I'd be the first to get

1118
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 13: my personal apology, be the first to do it. But

1119
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 13: if he does it my way, I want the same

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Speaker 13: thing in return.

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Speaker 14: But it is I did.

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00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 2: But I'm more.

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Speaker 13: Interested in the wide receivers. Heard just this something about

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00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:43,839
Speaker 13: Pope and Baker. So what about uh the other guy

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00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,919
Speaker 13: they got Osborne, And I ain't worry about Pop Pop

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00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 13: Pop showed me something last.

1127
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 2: Year Osborne about Osborne?

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Speaker 13: How they do?

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Speaker 8: I think he looks I was born, was fine and drills,

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Speaker 8: But I haven't really seen him too much in any

1131
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 8: of the on the team sessions.

1132
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: We've talked about the guys that have catched.

1133
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. He's been kind of invisible to.

1134
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 12: Me so far.

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00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's a lot of the guys that

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00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 6: I would just put in the same bucket that just

1137
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 6: kind of looked all the same, and not necessarily in

1138
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 6: a super positive way. I think kJ Osborne, Juju, you know,

1139
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,280
Speaker 6: some of the guys that are really fighting for roster

1140
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 6: spots that are probably not going to make this team

1141
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 6: practice squad guys, I mean obviously, Like I just think that,

1142
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 6: you know, like I said earlier when Fred asked about

1143
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,640
Speaker 6: how you can see Higgins right now, the Patriots got

1144
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 6: a lot of bodies at receiver. I don't know if

1145
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 6: anybody has really separated themselves as like, oh, that's that's

1146
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,240
Speaker 6: the top flight NFL receiver.

1147
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 5: Not that necessarily we expected that.

1148
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: No, I mean, say what we will about Juju.

1149
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 8: At least he looks different and he has a little

1150
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 8: bit of, you know, some different elements to his game

1151
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 8: than those guys who you and I think.

1152
00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 2: I don't.

1153
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put Pop in that in that group. He

1154
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: moves pretty well, He's he stood out to me, Yeah, is.

1155
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: He still standing out? But now I haven't. I haven't

1156
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: any movie made a great catch from Would you come

1157
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 2: if the season started today? Who would be your slot receiver.

1158
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 8: Pop, Yeah, I mean if it started today, it'd probably

1159
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 8: be Thornton and Juju.

1160
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 6: You know.

1161
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 5: And would you be disappointed by that that no one

1162
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 5: was better than Douglas in the slot? Yeah?

1163
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 1: Well, it depends on how big of a slot really has.

1164
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 8: I mean, I think if he's a pure slot receiver

1165
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,080
Speaker 8: and he comes down, you know, comes in specific place,

1166
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 8: if he's in every you know, if he's playing like

1167
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:26,440
Speaker 8: sixty six percent.

1168
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 2: When I when I think of slot, I think of

1169
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 2: that binky chain mover, you know, dependable on third down,

1170
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 2: a guy that gets a lot of catches.

1171
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, would you be disappointed if it was him.

1172
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: No, I'd be'd be great. I don't care who it is.

1173
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: I just hope we have one.

1174
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: I would hope that we have one better than that.

1175
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I I don't know.

1176
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:46,879
Speaker 5: I'm not I'm not disagreeing with anything the boys said.

1177
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 5: And I was going to say they have three practices

1178
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 5: to go on. I only have one, So I'm not

1179
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,359
Speaker 5: disagreeing with any of the assessments. I was hoping kJ

1180
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 5: Osborne as an example, was going to be markedly better

1181
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 5: than to Mario Douglas. Oh No, and I you know,

1182
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 5: I don't. I don't know yet. Well, I was hoping

1183
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 5: he's an NFL player. Pop Douglas is an NFL player.

1184
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 5: We'll see, we'll see, we saw.

1185
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 2: I'll go back to what I always say, Paul, you'll

1186
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 2: make fun of me. If Pop Douglas ends up being

1187
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 2: the slot receiver, then I'm okay with it because the

1188
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 2: coaches will know they you know, they know what they're doing,

1189
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 2: you know.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean I get what Paul's kind of getting

1191
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 8: out though, and like I would, I would kind of

1192
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 8: make this comparison, like.

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Speaker 1: I like Pop as Danny A. Mondola. I don't want

1194
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Speaker 1: him as Julian Edelman if that makes sense.

1195
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 5: Well that's what he gets me, so well, like I'm

1196
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 5: not willing to do. Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way.

1197
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Speaker 6: You know.

1198
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 2: Amandola was obviously clutch, good player, really good, but he

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Speaker 2: wasn't a slot in my mind, he wasn't the slot

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Speaker 2: receiver that I'm thinking about.

1201
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Speaker 5: You know, well, he was a slot recet, but not

1202
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,520
Speaker 5: being slot receiver a bad error?

1203
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 2: Was that, all right? And then before that it was

1204
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: Welker and then it was Troy Brown.

1205
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I'd say I want him to be

1206
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 8: the fourth receiver. You know, I want when we go

1207
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 8: four wide, I want him in the slot. But I

1208
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 8: want Baker. I want Baker to be that guy. I

1209
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:01,160
Speaker 8: get it in a perfect world, you know.

1210
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 5: But Everan just threw Dion out there, Like that's what

1211
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,880
Speaker 5: we're talking about, is Dion and Brown, Just like what

1212
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 5: Mike just mentioned with Edelman and a Mondola. I would

1213
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,360
Speaker 5: like that there to be something like that. Yeah, yeah, No,

1214
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:13,080
Speaker 5: I think Pop.

1215
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 6: I don't think Pop is a high volume guy just

1216
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 6: by nature, just because I worried about Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well that's why, Like I don't I don't question the talent.

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Speaker 5: I questioned the durability and the entirety, and like that's

1219
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 5: part of being an NFL player. Yeah no, I don't

1220
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Speaker 5: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 15: And we're back with another edition of the PU Halftime Show.

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Speaker 15: Matiz Bauman here with Chris Cassidy. Chris, it's been a while.

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Speaker 15: We're gonna get more. We're gonna get out. It's the

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Speaker 15: off season. We got to joy ourselves, of course. Yeah

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Speaker 15: all right, but guy, we're back on video. All right,

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Speaker 15: let's run through some trivia. As always, Send your answers

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Speaker 15: to Ebreo Patriots dot com. This first one's absolute layup

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Speaker 15: by Cassidy over here. So question one, who was the

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Speaker 15: last top three draft pick for the New England Patriots?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: Question two?

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Speaker 15: What number did Vinny testa verity were for the New

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00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,279
Speaker 15: England Patriots? And question three how many rushing yards did

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Speaker 15: Sony Michelle have his rookie year?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 15: Those are answers. Are your questions? Send your answers to

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Speaker 15: Webree at Patriots dot com.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure we have T shirts.

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Speaker 3: Might get some new ones, something like that's a T shirt?

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Speaker 6: Guy?

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Speaker 10: I changed?

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Speaker 15: Okay, perfect, guys. Today we're gonna talk about out of

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Speaker 15: the top ten teams that drafted in the league, who's

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00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 15: gonna have the quickest turnaround. Let's just say, you know,

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Speaker 15: not picking in the top ten again. So let me

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Speaker 15: run through the list real quick. We got the Bears,

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Speaker 15: the Commanders, the Pats, the Cardinals, the Chargers, the Giants,

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Speaker 15: the Titans, the Falcons, the Bears again, and then the Viking.

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Speaker 15: So we'll just switch the Bears the second time.

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Speaker 3: With the Jets. Will do that, all right?

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Speaker 2: It counts all right?

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Speaker 3: So Chris, you go first?

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Speaker 2: Who we think? Who thinks?

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Speaker 3: Again? Now that top ten gonna change it completely.

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Speaker 10: I mean, I think the Bears are set up for

1279
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 10: some success here with Caleb Williams, Ramadunza, both of them

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Speaker 10: just solid pieces to the puzzle.

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00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 5: There's still Dj Moore out there.

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Speaker 10: Like, they have some dynamic playmakers there in Chicago, and

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00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 10: they've continued to improve their offense. You know, they're very

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00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 10: uphill team. They like the deep ball. Cayleb can get

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 10: it down there. He also has some good mobility with

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00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 10: his feet. I mean, Roam another threat again. I mentioned

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00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 10: him already at wide receiver, But like you just think

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00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 10: about what they have for weapons and it's they really

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00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 10: do have the pieces to be a solid, solid team

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Speaker 10: this season.

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Speaker 15: Yeah, it's it's it's interesting because that's such a tough division.

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Speaker 15: You know, you got the Vikings who like they still

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Speaker 15: justin Jefferson there. Don't forget the Packers. The lines are

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Speaker 15: just a couple of plays away from being in the

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Speaker 15: super Bowl. So I'll put them there too. I'm gonna

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Speaker 15: go with the Falcons, and I'm not doing that because

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Speaker 15: of the Pennix pick, which I do like the pick

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Speaker 15: in the long run. I just think, you know, they

1299
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Speaker 15: have the pieces there and new coach I like Raheem Morris.

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Speaker 15: I think Kirk Cousins will be able to if he's healthy.

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Speaker 15: They got they got.

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Speaker 3: Something to work there. The division is not too tough.

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00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: I think they can get out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 10: I also want to say that the Giants could do something.

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00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 10: I mean, it's a stretch, it really is.

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Speaker 3: At you think the Giant are gonna turn around more

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Speaker 3: than the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: It's hard to say right now, I think, but overall,

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Speaker 10: I think the Giants, with the addition of Laite neighbors,

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Speaker 10: if Daniel Jones can somehow figure out how to.

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Speaker 3: Be who he was in twenty twenty two off the ACL,

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 10: I mean, we'll figure it out. But all I'm saying

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Speaker 10: is if he can figure it out himself, I think,

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Speaker 10: you know, it could definitely be a little more interesting.

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Speaker 10: They're in the NFC North, all right.

1319
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Speaker 3: What about the Titans.

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Speaker 15: Will levis pretty solid rookie campaign. They got Calvin Ridley, yep,

1321
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Speaker 15: they got the tackle which guy I forget Latham?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: Is that him? Yes?

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Speaker 3: Yes, yep, JC Latham yep. So I mean they still

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Speaker 3: have d hot so that might be.

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Speaker 10: I think they they have a little bit of a

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Speaker 10: jo wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: I think it's hard to.

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Speaker 15: Just be as Ridley said, he's twenty six even though

1330
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Speaker 15: he's twenty nine exactly.

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Speaker 10: I mean he did, he did, but no, he's he's

1332
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Speaker 10: kind of up there. Same with the hop I don't

1333
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Speaker 10: know if they have the speed at wide receiver. I

1334
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 10: don't think they have the playmakers at running back. I

1335
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 10: think they have Tajy Spears still at running back. I

1336
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 10: think is one of their top guys. So who's again solid,

1337
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Speaker 10: But I don't know. We'll see if he can fill

1338
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 10: a void of Derrick Henry. I mean, King Henry is

1339
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:21,080
Speaker 10: still a beast.

1340
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Speaker 3: Here's the question. Ever wants to know, Well, what the

1341
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 3: pats We'll see, We'll see.

1342
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Speaker 5: We'll see.

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Speaker 10: I mean, everybody's excited about Drake. I don't think he's

1344
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Speaker 10: your day one starter. I think Jacoby is your day

1345
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 10: one starter. Quite frankly, I think they already they still

1346
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,279
Speaker 10: have four quarterbacks on the roster. It will come down

1347
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Speaker 10: to three. I think they picked Joe Milton for a reason.

1348
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 10: They like what they see in Joe Milton. I mean,

1349
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Speaker 10: they wouldn't have done that if they didn't want to,

1350
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Speaker 10: you know what I mean. So I think that those

1351
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 10: will be the three will be Jacoby, Drake and Joe

1352
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 10: unfortunately for Bailey's Abbey, But I mean that's just how

1353
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 10: it works, especially in New England.

1354
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Speaker 2: I mean it's it's been a gone to the line

1355
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: of so.

1356
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Speaker 15: I will say, we're talking about trying to get out

1357
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 15: of the top ten. Picking if a good season for

1358
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 15: the Pats with like on paper, I think with the

1359
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 15: division everything, you know, picking eleven twelve, like, that's a

1360
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 15: solid season.

1361
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Speaker 3: That's a good.

1362
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 15: Turnaround, rookie head coach, pretty much a new team completely.

1363
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 15: So I'd be fine with that as a Pats fan.

1364
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 10: So I think that's definitely a positive outlook they. I

1365
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:25,239
Speaker 10: don't know if you saw this as a report said

1366
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:28,720
Speaker 10: that they're underdogs in almost every game. I think this season,

1367
00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,040
Speaker 10: I'll take it. I think I saw that, which is

1368
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:34,800
Speaker 10: just insane. I don't remember the last time that was

1369
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 10: ever happened in the NFL where a team is an

1370
00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 10: underdog in all eighteen weeks. But yeah, I think the

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00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 10: Patriots have a lot to prove this season. I think

1372
00:56:43,920 --> 00:56:45,719
Speaker 10: this coaching staff has a lot to prove as well.

1373
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 10: And we'll see what direction they want to go here.

1374
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 15: Yeah, all right, Chris, that was a good one there

1375
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 15: you know quickick, we're gonna get into it. We got

1376
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 15: Mini camp in two weeks, right about two weeks. Two

1377
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 15: weeks we had OT today Ota is about the week.

1378
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 15: So Chris, thanks for joining. Guys, send you aunt is

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Speaker 15: in the web page.

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Speaker 3: Am I stop joining, joining, always joining?

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Speaker 10: What I'll joining?

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Speaker 15: You'll be in this chair one day, guys, just get

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Speaker 15: back to pagris i'nfiltered.

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Speaker 9: Isn't it time to get exactly what you want?

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Speaker 16: replacements were shipped with FedEx and with picture proof of delivery,

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Speaker 2: Only, and now great moments in.

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Speaker 5: History.

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Speaker 2: While we're at it, Have you guys heard the term

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00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 2: yeat you say ut yeat? Spell it? I don't know.

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00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,560
Speaker 5: My son said it last night, and it's apparently a

1417
00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 5: very common term now. Of it's basic.

1418
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 2: You like throwing up for grabs, You eat something, you

1419
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: eat it it? He said, oh, I eat it that one.

1420
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: And I said, excuse me, what language you even speak it?

1421
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 5: Never heard it in my life. Well, but I just

1422
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 5: assume it's one of those things that probably started on

1423
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:14,240
Speaker 5: Instagram and all of a sudden, you know, like I

1424
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 5: might tweet about it, you know, involved in that kind

1425
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 5: of I might tweet something, say I eat it it,

1426
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 5: see what the kids do.

1427
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no idea, but you don't know how

1428
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: to spell it.

1429
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 5: I would assume why E E T, But I don't

1430
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 5: know yet.

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00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 10: No.

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00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, Ate, that's another great moment from.

1433
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 2: Matt. Morrell informed me that yesterday was five years to

1434
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 2: the day of Andy Hart's last show here on Patriot's Unfiltered.

1435
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 2: Five years it's a long time ago. Time flies.

1436
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:46,919
Speaker 1: Huh, Yeah, I was. I got to witness a little

1437
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: of the reunion yesterday. Paul got out there with.

1438
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,240
Speaker 8: Paul was a little bit worried because he's you know,

1439
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 8: he didn't know what he was doing and going his

1440
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 8: first ota of the year. And I said, well, you'll

1441
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 8: see Andy and Giardi out there and then you'll you'll

1442
00:59:57,400 --> 00:59:57,680
Speaker 8: you'll know.

1443
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:01,560
Speaker 2: You're I'd be like riding a bikey. Yeah, it was

1444
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 2: already on his blanket, has sunglasses on, he had, well

1445
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: I had sunglasses on.

1446
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 5: He's a radio guy now, but he had his just

1447
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 5: we have we have trivia.

1448
01:00:17,080 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we have a couple of two or three trivia questions.

1449
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,280
Speaker 5: Little I hope they're not those, just like super specific

1450
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 5: ones like at.

1451
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 8: The steak last night and they get the meat balls

1452
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 8: following up one, two punches tough.

1453
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 5: Don't forget the bud light and easy to drink, Well

1454
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 5: you enjoy before I do the trivia.

1455
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: Let me just get this out of the way. Uh oh,

1456
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: because it is summer and it's heating up at Bob's

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Speaker 2: Discount Furniture with plenty of affordable and awesome styles with

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Speaker 2: Bob's Summer of nine ninety nine. See just how much

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Speaker 2: for nine ninety nine or less. So embrace fresh air

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Speaker 2: and fresher styles only at Bob's Discount Furniture, the official

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Speaker 2: furniture store of the New England Patriots. There you go,

1464
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Speaker 2: knowing noin knowing.

1465
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Speaker 8: They're warming up the Bobb's Discount Furniture studio for you,

1466
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:18,880
Speaker 8: Paul this summer.

1467
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, well he's losing the game to NBC. Correct, that's right,

1468
01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 5: because when you're this good, that ought to get.

1469
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 2: You a little trivia. Who was the last three Who

1470
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,560
Speaker 2: was the last top three pick for the Patriots? And

1471
01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:32,760
Speaker 2: this year does not count?

1472
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 5: The last top three pick was Drew that's right.

1473
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: What number did Vinnie Testaverdi wear for the Patriots?

1474
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 5: Seventeen sixteen sixteen?

1475
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: Wrong, both of you?

1476
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 5: Fourteen fourteen.

1477
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 2: Wow, I'm shocked, Paul.

1478
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: Of numbers.

1479
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a number.

1480
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: How many rushing yards did Sony Michelle have his rookie year?

1481
01:01:55,480 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 5: Nine thirty seven, eight eight, nine thirty one?

1482
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I knew, Oh that was really good.

1483
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 5: That's a good guest by I was covering.

1484
01:02:04,560 --> 01:02:07,160
Speaker 8: The team then, yeah, yeah, remember every one of those yards.

1485
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:12,480
Speaker 2: I was too spein Fresno talking about the YouTube chat people,

1486
01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,960
Speaker 2: Oh I still haven't checked that out. Yeah, don't bother.

1487
01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: But first he says, Yike's Fred says, I like that,

1488
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 2: Steve feels comfortable coming in. Andy's perverted voice in my

1489
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 2: head immediately says, excuse me, that's what he would have said.

1490
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 2: Here are a few fun facts about the troglodytes in

1491
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 2: your YouTube chat. They are continually continually yelling, writing in

1492
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: caps with exclamation points. They are ninety nine percent Evan fanboys,

1493
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: emulating his style of haartoism, analogous to the Joe Rogan

1494
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 2: fan base, big tough, twenty something manned children with keyboards. Uh,

1495
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,680
Speaker 2: and they hate you when you have non football talk

1496
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 2: and clamor for you to instead talk about jerseys. Take

1497
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,080
Speaker 2: a look at the chat and you might be entertained

1498
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 2: for two minutes before realizing it's the lowest common denominator scum. Listen.

1499
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, that is harsh.

1500
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 2: If they're fans of the show and they're listening and

1501
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,640
Speaker 2: they're commenting, they're fine with me. I don't care if

1502
01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: they write in caps.

1503
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 8: I mean comment sections in general seem to kind of talk.

1504
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:24,360
Speaker 2: Dude, Come on, please, you know it's passion. It's passion.

1505
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: That's okay. As long as they care, that's all. That's

1506
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 2: all I'm asking for.

1507
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: We'll talk jerseys, no problem.

1508
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 5: So Evan fan boys, fan boys, fan men.

1509
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 6: That's really well, they're big babies according.

1510
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,920
Speaker 2: To But it's like the ben affleck. He doesn't like

1511
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 2: those people.

1512
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're to get them.

1513
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,120
Speaker 8: They're always trying to snap pictures of them with duncan

1514
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:44,880
Speaker 8: stuff dropping.

1515
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 6: It's pretty horrible bit that he did, honestly, and Jala

1516
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,919
Speaker 6: on the Rocks again, is that you know, who would

1517
01:03:50,920 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 6: have thought?

1518
01:03:51,880 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 2: That's what the saying, who would have thought?

1519
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 8: It seems to kids wasn't gonna work for those two guys.

1520
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,200
Speaker 1: I really believed it.

1521
01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 6: It's not like they tried once before failed, so I

1522
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 6: really thought they had a chance.

1523
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 8: But my old boss told me a crazy story about

1524
01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 8: them that he was at like I forget what it was.

1525
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 8: It was like some kind of presentation or something, but

1526
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 8: they were in a like an auditorium kind of thing,

1527
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 8: and he said Jlo and Ben Affleck were like in

1528
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 8: the back just going at it in front of everybody.

1529
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,600
Speaker 5: Well, were they at it or fighting?

1530
01:04:21,000 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 14: No?

1531
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 5: At it?

1532
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, no, the good one, the good one

1533
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: not fighting.

1534
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was.

1535
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:28,680
Speaker 1: He was disturbed. I think a lot of people were disturbed.

1536
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:30,280
Speaker 1: This was back in like the mid two thousands, so

1537
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 1: I think it was.

1538
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 7: When the one day ago they are fighting over finances

1539
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 7: and living separately.

1540
01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 5: How do you find it?

1541
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 2: Fight over finances?

1542
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 5: You got a billion dollars?

1543
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,480
Speaker 2: No, what's the song? I got nine million problems?

1544
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 8: J ain't one.

1545
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:50,080
Speaker 6: Nine nine one of the most rapist doesn't translate all

1546
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:50,360
Speaker 6: the time.

1547
01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 2: It's sick. Well, they got a lot more money than

1548
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 2: most people.

1549
01:04:58,040 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 8: Well, wouldn't you just ge at this point you're both success.

1550
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 8: We'll just keep your finances separate and don't worry about that.

1551
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,680
Speaker 8: You would think it's Yeah, she wants a little, wants

1552
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 8: a little.

1553
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 5: It's a little complicated.

1554
01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 2: Uh, let's get to the ace sticking outline eight five

1555
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:16,080
Speaker 2: five pass five hundred. Patrick's in Pennsylvania. What's up, Patrick, Patrick?

1556
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god.

1557
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:19,520
Speaker 1: The new phone system.

1558
01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 2: The new phone system will solve that, I hope.

1559
01:05:21,720 --> 01:05:24,600
Speaker 1: But then when the calls dropped, they just won't be believe.

1560
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, at least they'll know there's no call there.

1561
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: Like you, you know, and people can text us too.

1562
01:05:29,080 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 2: Is that the Yeah, I'm a little worried about that, Matt,

1563
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 2: because now I have to pay attention to another device.

1564
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, we'll feed it, We'll put more somebody on there.

1565
01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, we need to.

1566
01:05:39,240 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: We need a co producer to monitor the chat.

1567
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 2: Pick out the best, the moderator for the YouTube chat.

1568
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:48,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, settle down in there, be nice to each other,

1569
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 7: pre and postgame show, the pan forwards, the best emails

1570
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:52,960
Speaker 7: over the hearty can do the same thing with text me.

1571
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 2: Well, the hardy needs the help because he's not good

1572
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 2: at fielding emails, but once he gets to them, he's

1573
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 2: very good. He reads them. Well, well, yeah I heard it.

1574
01:06:01,040 --> 01:06:03,560
Speaker 2: Sugg just doesn't find the email. Did you hear you listen?

1575
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,120
Speaker 8: I was.

1576
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 1: I was listening this morning.

1577
01:06:05,080 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 8: He's talking about he's stuck in like some kind of

1578
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,760
Speaker 8: weird traffic situation, and so he just got out of

1579
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 8: the car, had his wife pull over, and he just

1580
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,480
Speaker 8: started Hardy started direct in traffic, and everyone was like,

1581
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,760
Speaker 8: thank you, thank you, you know, like he just took

1582
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 8: matters into his own hands, which I did not feel like.

1583
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: This is a story he sold this morning on the radio.

1584
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,880
Speaker 1: It was pretty pretty funny.

1585
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 5: I missed it minute.

1586
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,920
Speaker 6: JJ Reddick on the radio yesterday with that was one

1587
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 6: of the most fantastic.

1588
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 5: It was one of the most horrific spots that it's

1589
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: kind of the definition of why I have no use

1590
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 5: for guests in general. But the disrespect that he showed

1591
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 5: for other people on that was who was it, JJ Redick,

1592
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 5: who is a colossal douche.

1593
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 2: I listened, Yeah, well that's what he's doing. It's totally

1594
01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:47,880
Speaker 2: uncalled for.

1595
01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:51,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, what did he like? He was asked if the

1596
01:06:51,800 --> 01:06:55,840
Speaker 5: Celtics were to lose, what would be a potential problem,

1597
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 5: and he said the better team would have won that

1598
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:04,600
Speaker 5: the analysis that that the lead, the lead NBA national

1599
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 5: analyst said the better team. So I guess there's no

1600
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,680
Speaker 5: such thing as an upset. It's never happened, right, And

1601
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 5: no such thing as an upset. It's never happened in

1602
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 5: the in the history of sports.

1603
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: He was being pissy.

1604
01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 5: F your guys. Yeah, and you know it was It

1605
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 5: was just weird. And I'm like, listen, Mike and Tony

1606
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,240
Speaker 5: they aren't They aren't a lot of that stuff with

1607
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,920
Speaker 5: their reputation. And my bet is that he kind of

1608
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 5: knew some of that going in. Well, fell girls, I mean,

1609
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 5: ranked the coaches, they're all great. Anybody that gets this

1610
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:37,760
Speaker 5: far as great.

1611
01:07:37,960 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: Well, somebody said it. That that's from somebody said it.

1612
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,240
Speaker 2: It might be true. Is that he doesn't want to

1613
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,800
Speaker 2: say anything now because he wants that Lakers coaching job,

1614
01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,560
Speaker 2: so he has he's being careful about being too opinionated.

1615
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 6: You know. Yeah, I'm a JJ Reddick fan from his

1616
01:07:55,320 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 6: playing days, but he that was not a good look

1617
01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 6: on his partner. It really wasn't a good interview for anybody.

1618
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 6: But it wasn't a good look on his.

1619
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 5: Part now and if he offered any sort of like

1620
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:13,000
Speaker 5: because he's like a really knowledgeable basketball.

1621
01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 2: Right better be if somebody wants him to be the coach.

1622
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 5: But no, I'm talking about in terms of preparation and understanding, knowing, knowing,

1623
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 5: knowing the details. He just didn't want to offer any

1624
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 5: of it yesterday.

1625
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 2: No.

1626
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,519
Speaker 6: I think that he was going with the whole like

1627
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:32,400
Speaker 6: I operate on a plane that you guys can operate on.

1628
01:08:32,920 --> 01:08:35,960
Speaker 6: So like me explaining to you another worships that might happen,

1629
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 6: isn't you're gonna it's not gonna. You're not gonna understand.

1630
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 5: In other words, you went to Duke, Yeah, there you go.

1631
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 5: Nothing else needs to be saying.

1632
01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:44,519
Speaker 2: There it is.

1633
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:46,120
Speaker 6: Jason Tatum also went to Duke.

1634
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 5: Nothing like that.

1635
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 2: So, you know, Blobby from Puerto Rico rights in. There's

1636
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: been a lot of talk about how the defense is

1637
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 2: going to be fine for the last twenty years. All

1638
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 2: I've heard is that Bill was the greatest defensive mind

1639
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 2: ever and that the defense was as good as it

1640
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 2: was because he knew where to put good not great

1641
01:09:05,680 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 2: players in positions to succeed and knew what to do

1642
01:09:09,080 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 2: to make the other team's offense play left handed. So

1643
01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 2: are we now saying that this defensive staff can do

1644
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:17,040
Speaker 2: just as good as him? How is the defense going

1645
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,839
Speaker 2: to be as good when you didn't add any players

1646
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:22,600
Speaker 2: to upgrade positions in the offseason and Bill is no

1647
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 2: longer with the team. What gives everyone so much confidence

1648
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,639
Speaker 2: that things are going to be fine? I just don't

1649
01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 2: see it, but want to hear what others think. It's

1650
01:09:32,120 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 2: it's a We brought that point up on this show.

1651
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, well fine is it? Define is an interesting word?

1652
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 6: Like no one's saying that they're going to be the

1653
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 6: eighty five Bears, Like fine is fine?

1654
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: Like will they be as good as they were last year?

1655
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 6: I think they'll have a chance to be better because

1656
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 6: jude On and Gonzalez they're going to be healthy again.

1657
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:52,040
Speaker 2: But you're are you factoring in the loss of the

1658
01:09:52,080 --> 01:09:53,519
Speaker 2: greatest defensive mind ever.

1659
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,040
Speaker 6: This version of the greatest defensive mind ever or the

1660
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 6: one that existed ten years ago?

1661
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think.

1662
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: Mike's fair point.

1663
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 2: I know, Well, the last few years it's been.

1664
01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 5: You think they've had bad defensive game plans the last time?

1665
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 8: Yeah, and they haven't had any answers for two attack

1666
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 8: of Iloa they've just beat Josh Allen. I mean they

1667
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 8: they've gotten lit up by the same guy as a

1668
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 8: few schools.

1669
01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 2: They didn't have they didn't have answers for Miami over

1670
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:17,160
Speaker 2: the course of bills.

1671
01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,120
Speaker 5: They don't have answers for teams with offenses when at

1672
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,639
Speaker 5: his peak that's maybe they weren't as good.

1673
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 2: I'm not but see now what Paul is saying is

1674
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:27,800
Speaker 2: they weren't as good a defense as people thought they were.

1675
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:30,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't. You said, can they be as good

1676
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 5: as last year?

1677
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1678
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 5: I think they can?

1679
01:10:32,200 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: Okay? And were they? And so then my my follow

1680
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:39,639
Speaker 2: up is were they fine last year? Yeah? Okay, yeah,

1681
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: so then you think they can be fine?

1682
01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 8: But I but I think it is one of the

1683
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 8: great questions that you know, and I don't think any

1684
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 8: of us are just like, how hold hum, he's gone, Like,

1685
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 8: I think this is one of the great questions of

1686
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 8: Bill Belichick's game plan defenses, identifying you know, like and

1687
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 8: I you know, acknowledging that it didn't work so great

1688
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 8: the last couple of years for you know, a variety

1689
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:58,160
Speaker 8: of reasons.

1690
01:10:58,200 --> 01:10:59,840
Speaker 1: But what's it looked like with that element?

1691
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 2: What does you know?

1692
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 8: What does Giromeo cook up with DeMarcus Covington. When they

1693
01:11:04,160 --> 01:11:06,320
Speaker 8: look at another team's offense and say, we got to

1694
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 8: find three things we have to take away. There are

1695
01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 8: three things that they come up with, probably not the

1696
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 8: same things that that Bill might have come up with.

1697
01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 8: So I think it's a it's definitely a question. I mean,

1698
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:17,640
Speaker 8: I think you know, last year's team, they were, they were,

1699
01:11:17,720 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 8: They had some pretty big injuries without Jude On and

1700
01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 8: you know, and granted they should have had better depth

1701
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 8: at that position, but you know, I like Gonzalez is

1702
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 8: the only guy that I see that I really feel

1703
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 8: like he's going to be very good and take a

1704
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 8: step forward this year. I have trouble making that argument

1705
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 8: for Keon White, for Marte map Whu, you know, those

1706
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 8: other young guys that we don't know, we don't know yet.

1707
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 8: On those guys, I mean, and you know, even Gonzalez,

1708
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,599
Speaker 8: it's a little you know, tenuous, but just the way

1709
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,839
Speaker 8: he moves and he just looked like he got it instantly.

1710
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:45,760
Speaker 2: So I feel pretty good about him.

1711
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 8: But who are the other players that you think this

1712
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 8: year are going to take a step forward and be better?

1713
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:52,360
Speaker 8: Like Jelani Tavai, I mean, I think he kind of

1714
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,639
Speaker 8: is what he is. He's a good player. I don't

1715
01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,479
Speaker 8: think he's going to suddenly be great. I don't think

1716
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 8: Jawan Bentley's going to suddenly be great. You know, Is

1717
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:00,960
Speaker 8: josh uj gonna play three and be able to generate

1718
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 8: pass rush all on his own? I don't really have

1719
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 8: much confidence in that. So I do think that they

1720
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:08,479
Speaker 8: have some some real questions. And I've talked about in

1721
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 8: the past. Their whole defensive front is basically up for

1722
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 8: contract next year, So Godshaw, Dietrick Wise, I mean, all

1723
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 8: these guys.

1724
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 2: Could be a good thing. It could be because they're

1725
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 2: playing for.

1726
01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:19,320
Speaker 8: So you're looking at you know, maybe we're looking at

1727
01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 8: next year. Where we spent this whole offseason talking about

1728
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,439
Speaker 8: the offense needs to be rebuilt. It's like, all right,

1729
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 8: we got some pieces on offense. Now, Caden Wallace worked

1730
01:12:25,680 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 8: out left tackle. I'm just throwing something out there that

1731
01:12:27,840 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 8: worked on offense. But you know, defensively, Godshaw's gone, Dietrick Wise,

1732
01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 8: you know, I'm sure they can retain. But Judon is

1733
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 8: getting up in age. Is he gonna suddenly play at

1734
01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 8: a high like, you know, fifteen sack level. I don't

1735
01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 8: really have much hope of that, so, I I mean,

1736
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 8: I think the emailers kind of feels like he's like

1737
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,680
Speaker 8: finger wagging us, But I think we're kind of on

1738
01:12:45,720 --> 01:12:46,240
Speaker 8: the same pad.

1739
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 2: I think a legitimate Yeah said, it's a question that

1740
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,479
Speaker 2: we raised on this show.

1741
01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:51,960
Speaker 5: I think it's a legitimate concern.

1742
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:52,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1743
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, the loss of Bill and Steve, Yeah, yeah, is

1744
01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 6: a legitimate DeMarcus coming to and yesterday about how he's

1745
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 6: getting ready to call plays. He's never done it before. Yeah,

1746
01:13:02,120 --> 01:13:04,759
Speaker 6: you know, Steve was the one that was calling the defense,

1747
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 6: and so it'd be interesting to see how that goes,

1748
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:10,920
Speaker 6: because that's important, like maybe Steve would have blitzed on

1749
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:13,720
Speaker 6: a third down that DeMarcus won't blitz on, you know,

1750
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:16,680
Speaker 6: like or vice versa, right, and that those things can

1751
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 6: might not. We might not necessarily notice that it's it's

1752
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 6: a difference, but over the course of the season we

1753
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 6: might be like, well, dang, they're not very good on

1754
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 6: third down, and then all of a sudden we find

1755
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 6: out it's because Steve was kind of good at this.

1756
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 6: It was like, you know, spinning the dial on third

1757
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:35,799
Speaker 6: downs and DeMarcus Covington is still learning, and there's the drop.

1758
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 5: Off, and the opposite could happen too. Yeah, he could

1759
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,719
Speaker 5: be better at it. Maybe you know, the defense plays

1760
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,920
Speaker 5: at a higher level and you're like, hmm, maybe some

1761
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 5: of the play calling was holding them back or something.

1762
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 5: You know, like that can happen too. Sure, But I

1763
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 5: mean I'm sort of airing on the side of the

1764
01:13:53,400 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 5: guy who won six titles. Yeah, you know what I mean.

1765
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 5: So I'm not just like saying, oh, well, Paul's just

1766
01:13:58,200 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 5: saying it's gonna be worse because that's what he does. No,

1767
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,800
Speaker 5: I'm I'm judging it on the surface. I think he's

1768
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 5: considered to be one of the best defensive minds of

1769
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 5: his generation and they lost him, So I'm going to

1770
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:12,240
Speaker 5: assume that that's going to be a net negative.

1771
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean, I just I think Kean White is

1772
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 8: really one of the only real wild cards on the

1773
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,599
Speaker 8: defense of somebody who maybe there's something there.

1774
01:14:19,640 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 2: And I know yesterday Girod spoke of him, and there.

1775
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 5: Was a lot of you know, when I talked about

1776
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:26,599
Speaker 5: the coaches talking, there was a lot of enthusiasm. Keon

1777
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:32,400
Speaker 5: White got a lot of buzz yesterday. Maya no R

1778
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 5: Jerry Jerry, Jerry Montgomery, you know, spoke about Keon White.

1779
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 5: A little bit too, and uh, I think that there

1780
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 5: you know, you know when he's just like, oh is

1781
01:14:44,080 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 5: the reason why he was drafted where he was, you

1782
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 5: know is how he started. And I think I think

1783
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 5: they have some some ideas about him and some hope

1784
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:55,439
Speaker 5: we'll see if he fits in. I'm a little worried

1785
01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:57,320
Speaker 5: that Evans thing is right with him. He's kind of

1786
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 5: tweener that doesn't have it, doesn't have a home.

1787
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:03,439
Speaker 8: I am thought Girod's comments yesterday because they kind of

1788
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 8: resonated with me because I felt like when Keo White

1789
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 8: talked last week, it's like this seems like a new guy,

1790
01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 8: a little bit like he's just more talkative. He's got

1791
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:13,400
Speaker 8: a little bit of a sense of humor where you know, right,

1792
01:15:13,800 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 8: But you know, even like with Mapu, it's like, well,

1793
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 8: if he has a great year, how much impact does

1794
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 8: that really make?

1795
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 6: You know?

1796
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:23,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, I mean make where are they playing right?

1797
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:24,120
Speaker 5: Well?

1798
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: And that's and then you know, and then you're getting

1799
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:25,640
Speaker 2: into the.

1800
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:29,559
Speaker 5: Question play yeah, but you can make an impact, right.

1801
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:32,360
Speaker 8: But if he's just kind of like Kyle Duggar part B,

1802
01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 8: like it's fine they already have I would just say last.

1803
01:15:36,439 --> 01:15:37,080
Speaker 2: Point is is that.

1804
01:15:37,200 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 8: I think they'll be fine if Judon Ouch, John Jones,

1805
01:15:39,880 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 8: and Christian Gonzalez those four stay healthy. I think I

1806
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 8: think they'll be okay. They'll be they'll be competitive on defense,

1807
01:15:45,640 --> 01:15:47,679
Speaker 8: They'll be able to, you know, hang in there against teams.

1808
01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:49,799
Speaker 8: Will they be able to hold teams to six points?

1809
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1810
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,200
Speaker 8: That might be a little bit lofty, but I think

1811
01:15:53,240 --> 01:15:55,680
Speaker 8: they'll be fine if those guys stay healthy. But those

1812
01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 8: are some older guys. Jonathan Jones, you know, Jude On that.

1813
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,560
Speaker 8: I mean it might be asking a lot. And you know,

1814
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:02,799
Speaker 8: was O Jay's year two years ago? Was that an outlier?

1815
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,519
Speaker 8: Or you know, is there another level of his game

1816
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 8: that he can get to with Judahn playing off of

1817
01:16:07,560 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 8: him again? And you know, if that works out like

1818
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 8: it did two years ago, then then yeah, they'll be okay.

1819
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 6: I just think emails like that, not to like pick

1820
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 6: on the emailer, but like those emails that we get,

1821
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 6: I feel like are concentrated on them winning next year

1822
01:16:19,280 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 6: and I'm just not so like when I hear, oh,

1823
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,759
Speaker 6: like the you know, is the defense going to be fine?

1824
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? I don't know, Like how I no, you don't know,

1825
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,360
Speaker 2: but you don't want to take a step back. No, Like,

1826
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 2: I'm willing to be patient, right, and the offense is

1827
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 2: going to be a work in progress because of the

1828
01:16:36,840 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 2: quarterback and all that. But you're just hoping at least

1829
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 2: you don't go backwards on defense.

1830
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,160
Speaker 6: You know, Like, but they might go back they they might,

1831
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:46,760
Speaker 6: they might, And I don't know if it necessarily Like

1832
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 6: some people will correlate it to Bill and maybe it

1833
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 6: is correlated to him, but I think in a lot

1834
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,400
Speaker 6: of ways it might just be correlated to the fact

1835
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 6: that they have another bad offensive year, and like they're

1836
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:57,680
Speaker 6: on the field all the time, and they're playing better

1837
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,599
Speaker 6: teams on their schedule. It is a very difficult old schedule.

1838
01:17:01,200 --> 01:17:03,080
Speaker 6: You know, Aaron Rodgers is probably going to be back.

1839
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 6: So that's two games now instead of scrub quarterbacks.

1840
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 5: I don't know, instead of Zach, instead of Zach Wilson

1841
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,719
Speaker 5: and Trevor Simmey, and you play Aaron Rodgers twice, right.

1842
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 2: And I can promise you on this show will try

1843
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:17,320
Speaker 2: to be fair in our analysis of the whys.

1844
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, yeah, I just think that it's this

1845
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 6: year to me is just so much more about development,

1846
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 6: and like we get these emails that are like, you know, basically,

1847
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,439
Speaker 6: how many games do you think they're going to win?

1848
01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:30,559
Speaker 6: In twenty twenty four, we get a lot of those

1849
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 6: I don't know, Like, I like, they might only win

1850
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,639
Speaker 6: three or four games, guys, Like I hate to tell

1851
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 6: you that, but like with the schedule and the fact

1852
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:39,720
Speaker 6: that Drake May is going to be a rookie and

1853
01:17:39,800 --> 01:17:42,360
Speaker 6: who knows when he's actually going to play, and the coaches,

1854
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 6: I mean, most.

1855
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 5: Of these sites have their over under for wins at

1856
01:17:45,720 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 5: four and a half or fo or five and a half. Yeah,

1857
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 5: like somewhere in that neighborhood.

1858
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:50,040
Speaker 2: So like.

1859
01:17:51,840 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 5: When we don't answer eleven, I think people are like,

1860
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 5: what no.

1861
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 2: I I was asked at one of the practices I

1862
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 2: went to last week, and well, you know, what do

1863
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: you think your ceiling is for wins? And there was

1864
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 2: an audible gasp when I gave the number.

1865
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,000
Speaker 5: So I'm guessing you don't want to share it.

1866
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,440
Speaker 2: Not yet. We haven't done that yet. We're not there yet, because.

1867
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,920
Speaker 5: I kind of feel the same way, like I don't

1868
01:18:12,920 --> 01:18:13,360
Speaker 5: really want to.

1869
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,600
Speaker 6: The only way that I see that don't want to

1870
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 6: say the number being higher than we all think, because

1871
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:19,360
Speaker 6: I think we're all on the same page is if

1872
01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 6: Drake Mays a star, right, Yeah, if he's c J.

1873
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,400
Speaker 5: Stroud, then it's going to be higher. That's my caveat

1874
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 5: additions on the ground, change that will change. Yeah, yeah,

1875
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:28,560
Speaker 5: Now you have an offense.

1876
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:35,240
Speaker 2: Martin and London who's looking forward to watching the Patriots live. Second. Firstly,

1877
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 2: great show, he says, thank you. Secondly, when I'm not

1878
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:42,560
Speaker 2: listening to the podcast or watching sport, my job is

1879
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:46,040
Speaker 2: a senior data analyst and sometimes my two passions come

1880
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 2: together and I look at sports data. So obviously this

1881
01:18:49,560 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 2: is for Evan. A friend of mine asked me if

1882
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:56,360
Speaker 2: I think shorter quarterbacks tend to target taller wide receivers,

1883
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:59,479
Speaker 2: especially in their first year, as it might be the

1884
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 2: safer The discussion came from Marvin Harrison receiving targets from Murray.

1885
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to start pulling some data together, but thought

1886
01:19:07,200 --> 01:19:10,760
Speaker 2: Evan might have some insight, but also access to data.

1887
01:19:10,880 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 6: I don't wow, access to data, you don't, I mean

1888
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,280
Speaker 6: short answer, probably yes, but I don't know how it

1889
01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:19,799
Speaker 6: would help in this context.

1890
01:19:21,439 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't know.

1891
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:25,919
Speaker 6: I think that there's an interesting conversation though about quarterback

1892
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:29,320
Speaker 6: height that I think I've learned a little bit about

1893
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 6: watching the Patriots quarterbacks play, and you know, most of

1894
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 6: the time when you talk about height, I think that

1895
01:19:35,080 --> 01:19:38,000
Speaker 6: people talk about like throwing over the line and seeing

1896
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,200
Speaker 6: over the line and batted passes. But one thing that

1897
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:46,680
Speaker 6: I've noticed just watching May Milton, obviously Jacoby Brissett, is

1898
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:50,320
Speaker 6: just like how much bigger they are to generate power

1899
01:19:50,920 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 6: on throws. Like it's not even so much about the

1900
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 6: fact that they can see over the line and like

1901
01:19:55,880 --> 01:19:57,840
Speaker 6: all that stuff. It's just that they have so much

1902
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 6: more muscle and like just body to put behind things

1903
01:20:02,640 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 6: that you can just tell the difference the way the

1904
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 6: ball comes out of the hand. Like I think that's

1905
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:09,120
Speaker 6: different than what he's talking about, but like that, you

1906
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 6: just see such a big difference in just there. I

1907
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 6: guess athleticism, I guess is the way to put it,

1908
01:20:14,360 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 6: you know.

1909
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 2: And you know, like Rogers is a big guy, Like

1910
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:19,519
Speaker 2: people don't talk about that. He's he's a big guy.

1911
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:23,280
Speaker 2: He's tall, and he's got huge hands, and like the

1912
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 2: way he's able to just spin that ball with so

1913
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 2: little seemingly behind it. There is a lot behind it,

1914
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:31,360
Speaker 2: but he makes it look effortless.

1915
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 1: Was a super athlete.

1916
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:35,240
Speaker 8: I mean, he is one of those guys that just

1917
01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 8: I mean, you could make up a sport tomorrow and

1918
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:38,760
Speaker 8: he'd be good at it.

1919
01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,200
Speaker 1: Like that's he's that kind of.

1920
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:41,320
Speaker 2: You just see the difference.

1921
01:20:41,400 --> 01:20:43,920
Speaker 1: It's he That's kind of how I feel about May.

1922
01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:45,719
Speaker 2: He's like six ' four right Rogers.

1923
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, Yeah, I mean that's kind of how I feel

1924
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:49,360
Speaker 8: about May too. Like just when you watch him, he's

1925
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 8: just he's a fluid, big, athletic NFL quarterback kind of dude.

1926
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:58,840
Speaker 8: And you know, Mac never really felt exactly that, like

1927
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 8: he felt kind of just the a B version of that.

1928
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 2: You know, you remember Paul Walter Johnson, the pitcher, Yeah,

1929
01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:08,640
Speaker 2: I remember, yeah, back in the day. Yeah, I mean

1930
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:12,839
Speaker 2: he was he was tall and long and like he could.

1931
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 5: It's like a nineteen hundred skuy.

1932
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I asked Paul. That's why I you know,

1933
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:19,680
Speaker 2: I directed it to.

1934
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 5: Paul, like I have no idea how tall he was.

1935
01:21:23,240 --> 01:21:25,639
Speaker 1: They didn't think how many stone did he weigh.

1936
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: Let's see, Chad's his first time emailing. He's from Tulsen.

1937
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 2: I feel like this is a good question, but I

1938
01:21:34,479 --> 01:21:36,760
Speaker 2: feel like we should have a stock answer because we

1939
01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:39,640
Speaker 2: get asked it all the time. What would have to

1940
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 2: happen this season to make you guys feel like the

1941
01:21:41,560 --> 01:21:42,520
Speaker 2: season was successful.

1942
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,320
Speaker 1: Spark you know, spark on offense.

1943
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like guys, like, we've got our quarterback.

1944
01:21:50,439 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 5: That's it, that's I mean, that's straight. He shows promise.

1945
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the bottom line. That's what the league is.

1946
01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 8: And for all the time we taught, like I said

1947
01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:59,280
Speaker 8: at the top, all the time we spent talking about

1948
01:21:59,280 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 8: the other positions. If Drake May is awesome, those problems

1949
01:22:03,040 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 8: are all much less concerning than they are when you're

1950
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:11,000
Speaker 8: looking at it as quarterback as a character in the play,

1951
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 8: not the lead dog.

1952
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:13,080
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1953
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:16,080
Speaker 6: Right, We get this question a ton about offense, the

1954
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,639
Speaker 6: offensive line, like if the offensive line is a mess,

1955
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:20,600
Speaker 6: are you afraid to put Drake May in there? And

1956
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:22,600
Speaker 6: I just keep going back to the same thing with

1957
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 6: that too. It's like, if he's a dude, if he's

1958
01:22:25,920 --> 01:22:28,000
Speaker 6: a star, then it's not going to be as bad

1959
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:30,679
Speaker 6: as you think, right, Like, he's he's gonna make it better.

1960
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:30,920
Speaker 2: That's right.

1961
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:32,639
Speaker 5: What was Andy's line yesterday?

1962
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:35,400
Speaker 8: Oh, diamonds can't break it. Can't break a diamonds.

1963
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:35,920
Speaker 2: I liked it.

1964
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:38,000
Speaker 5: A boy, you can't break a.

1965
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,439
Speaker 2: Diamond Andy's Book of Hard Oak Quotes.

1966
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 5: I do like that. I do like that. After the

1967
01:22:43,200 --> 01:22:44,880
Speaker 5: half hour of me making fun of him for it,

1968
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:49,439
Speaker 5: he's right hard Yeah, it's no. If he's good enough, Yeah,

1969
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:52,960
Speaker 5: well he'll be able to I think, stand and he'll

1970
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 5: make the line right.

1971
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:56,320
Speaker 8: And it sums up, you know, ran I went on

1972
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,560
Speaker 8: a couple weeks ago where it's everyone's so afraid of

1973
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 8: breaking every quarterback.

1974
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: And that was what instantly clicked for me.

1975
01:23:01,960 --> 01:23:05,719
Speaker 8: It's like, the really really special quarterbacks should be nearly

1976
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 8: impossible to break.

1977
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 5: And that's what you have to do. If I see if,

1978
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 5: like for argument's sake, if mac Jones goes on to

1979
01:23:14,080 --> 01:23:18,240
Speaker 5: have a really successful career as a starting quarterback, then

1980
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 5: maybe I'll rethink me too.

1981
01:23:19,640 --> 01:23:19,840
Speaker 3: Yep.

1982
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,599
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not talking about mac Jones specifically. I mean,

1983
01:23:23,240 --> 01:23:26,800
Speaker 5: you know, I think you can go and you know,

1984
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 5: sort of flame out a little bit, go somewhere else,

1985
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 5: be a journeyman like Genosmaker, have some success. Baker Mayfield

1986
01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:37,040
Speaker 5: have something. I'm talking about stud He went from looking

1987
01:23:37,160 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 5: like he was broken to being a stud. Then you

1988
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 5: know that that would tell me that what they did

1989
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 5: held him back and he was good enough to overcome it.

1990
01:23:48,840 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 5: That's how I look at it, you know what I mean.

1991
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:54,720
Speaker 2: And in fact, he wasn't broken, right, it looked that way, but.

1992
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 8: He was just out of sorts and need to work

1993
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,280
Speaker 8: some things out with a new coaching staff to like

1994
01:23:59,439 --> 01:23:59,960
Speaker 8: reset him.

1995
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:00,200
Speaker 13: Then.

1996
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 6: I just think the biggest thing with him was that

1997
01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:06,720
Speaker 6: they drafted. They drafted like a point guard that they

1998
01:24:06,880 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 6: then expected to be like Michael Jordan, Like they expected

1999
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 6: him to just like make everything better, right, and that

2000
01:24:13,479 --> 01:24:16,800
Speaker 6: they never upgraded this stuff around him, like Mac was

2001
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,760
Speaker 6: not physically talented enough to do what Paul is talking

2002
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:21,680
Speaker 6: about and like put the team on his back like

2003
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 6: he wasn't.

2004
01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, unfortunately for him, he was drafted in the

2005
01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 2: first round. What gets lost is he was the fifth

2006
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 2: quarterback drafted, you know.

2007
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 5: And usually teekehd overall not the fifth quarter actually.

2008
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 2: Fifth quarterback drafted with exceptions always our second third round,

2009
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,080
Speaker 2: you know, and sometimes even further. But if nobody gone out,

2010
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 2: and when you drafted in the first round as a

2011
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 2: quarterback in this league, you're expected to be a stud.

2012
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,040
Speaker 6: If you've given him the supporting cast, I think Mac

2013
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 6: would have been capable of just distributing the ball like

2014
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:57,320
Speaker 6: brock Purty style to these players, but he wasn't given

2015
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:00,280
Speaker 6: that opportunity, and they almost expected him to be like

2016
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 6: a level above that and to elevate everything for and

2017
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 6: I think.

2018
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,479
Speaker 2: He wanted to be and he made mistakes and that,

2019
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 2: and then he became scrambled eggs.

2020
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:11,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, like right, because he was swimming in the deep end, right,

2021
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,760
Speaker 6: you know, like he wasn't good enough to do that,

2022
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 6: and so then it was like an avalanche.

2023
01:25:16,080 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 8: Right. There is something interesting to me though in Mac

2024
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 8: in that first year where it's like you don't know

2025
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,120
Speaker 8: what you don't know yet, and it's almost like you're

2026
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,400
Speaker 8: just kind of white knuckling it through your rookie season

2027
01:25:24,479 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 8: and you don't have time to overthink too much, you know.

2028
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 8: And and I think in a way that almost worked

2029
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 8: to his benefit that first year. And then I started.

2030
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: Agree, I think it worked. It was detriment. I think

2031
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:37,799
Speaker 2: it was false success.

2032
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2033
01:25:38,600 --> 01:25:41,559
Speaker 2: I think they they overmanaged them. They didn't allow him

2034
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,559
Speaker 2: to make mistakes. He didn't he he never was able

2035
01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 2: to see what his limitations were and where, you know,

2036
01:25:47,640 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 2: because he was just overmanaged. And I think it was

2037
01:25:51,000 --> 01:25:52,200
Speaker 2: false success. Yeah.

2038
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 8: I mean, I think I think we're probably trying to

2039
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:56,680
Speaker 8: kind of say the same thing. But yeah, that was

2040
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,680
Speaker 8: it was like a fool's gold season because you had

2041
01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,280
Speaker 8: you had McDaniel's in his ear, and look, this is

2042
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 8: exactly what you have to do.

2043
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 2: And he doesn't know any better.

2044
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:05,920
Speaker 5: And you know, I when when he.

2045
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,080
Speaker 8: Got to camp, but initially like he didn't he wasn't

2046
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,120
Speaker 8: looking at the ground, he wasn't concerned about the pocket.

2047
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,240
Speaker 8: He was keeping his eyes downfield, and I was like,

2048
01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 8: whoa this You know, it's it's similar to what we're

2049
01:26:14,160 --> 01:26:16,200
Speaker 8: seeing for Drake May right now. So I do think

2050
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 8: it's just a little cautionary that like just what you

2051
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 8: get rookie year.

2052
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's some.

2053
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:22,400
Speaker 8: Elements you're getting, but it might be a little bit

2054
01:26:22,439 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 8: different than what you're actually going to get down the road.

2055
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 2: I hope if May plays, they let him play, they

2056
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 2: let him be made.

2057
01:26:30,200 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 8: And it seems like it seems like they will.

2058
01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:35,200
Speaker 6: I mean, it's just started doing no look passes, which

2059
01:26:35,240 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 6: I can tell you that is like Drake May.

2060
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:39,640
Speaker 2: I could see like if that was a couple of

2061
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 2: years ago, he'd get finger wagged after the practice.

2062
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:42,519
Speaker 14: What do you do?

2063
01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 5: What the hell?

2064
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:43,519
Speaker 12: You know?

2065
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,439
Speaker 6: My favorite part of the video we posted the no

2066
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,600
Speaker 6: Look Pass, which I've watched approximately fifty times, is the

2067
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 6: coaches behind him, and one of the coaches just goes

2068
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,320
Speaker 6: ooh like just like that, and like because they're all

2069
01:26:56,400 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 6: looking like where is he going? Like with the ball,

2070
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 6: because he's looking down the field and there's nobody open

2071
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 6: where his eyes are, and so they're all like, oh, like,

2072
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:04,080
Speaker 6: where's he going with this?

2073
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,120
Speaker 2: And then he throws it in the I like that

2074
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 2: he felt confident to do that. That's us like some

2075
01:27:08,920 --> 01:27:10,559
Speaker 2: other players would be like, I don't want to show

2076
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 2: up right, well more.

2077
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: So than the actual play itself.

2078
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 8: That's all I kind of felt too, was just that

2079
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 8: he has a degree of comfort that he can be

2080
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,040
Speaker 8: himself and do something like that in however many practices

2081
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:21,120
Speaker 8: this has been speaking of that.

2082
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 2: I guess Jeff Howe had an article today or maybe

2083
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 2: came out last night about the vibe. Yeah. I haven't

2084
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:28,800
Speaker 2: had a chance to read it.

2085
01:27:28,880 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 6: I've read some quotes that have been on Twitter, but

2086
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 6: I haven't read anything good. Uh, just like some stuff

2087
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 6: about how like Mayo's like shortened meetings, you know, like

2088
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 6: they used to talk about Bill's like marathon meetings, you know,

2089
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 6: and now they're they're doing meetings and uh they're I

2090
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,679
Speaker 6: guess called sprint meetings or like they're twenty five minutes

2091
01:27:48,720 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 6: of like really hunkering down and they'll give them the

2092
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:53,640
Speaker 6: players a break and then twenty five more minutes and

2093
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:55,640
Speaker 6: then a break and so on and so forth. Yea,

2094
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,400
Speaker 6: so just doing things a little bit different. And then

2095
01:27:57,439 --> 01:28:00,559
Speaker 6: obviously some of the other stuff is things that we've about,

2096
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:04,320
Speaker 6: you know, the pictures around the facility, you're different. Sort

2097
01:28:04,360 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 6: of the vibe is, you know, we're not going to

2098
01:28:06,479 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 6: keep looking back in the past and look at all

2099
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:10,800
Speaker 6: the greatness sun, you know, and turn the page.

2100
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:15,080
Speaker 2: Andrew in la I asked chat GBT what the Patriots

2101
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 2: win total will be next season with the condition that

2102
01:28:18,680 --> 01:28:21,679
Speaker 2: May would be a good quarterback and he played seventeen games,

2103
01:28:22,120 --> 01:28:24,720
Speaker 2: It said they'd win eleven or twelve games. I think

2104
01:28:24,760 --> 01:28:28,800
Speaker 2: this analysis is good because it's positive. Please be more

2105
01:28:28,920 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 2: like chat GBT and Playkate us Evan well, like, okay,

2106
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: so you're putting in that condition may play seventeen games,

2107
01:28:37,640 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 2: meaning he's probably playing well, so you know, maybe they

2108
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 2: do win more games because of that. And eleven, you know,

2109
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:48,280
Speaker 2: ten or eleven is an unreasonable although I still say

2110
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:52,840
Speaker 2: that first year everything, you know, even Peyton Manning didn't

2111
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 2: do that.

2112
01:28:53,320 --> 01:28:55,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, That's why I feel like even if he is

2113
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 6: playing really well, you know, going back to like Justin

2114
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,400
Speaker 6: Herbert's rookie season, us and Herbert had great stats his

2115
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,320
Speaker 6: rookie season, and the Chargers system win games. I mean

2116
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,920
Speaker 6: they lost to the Cam Newton Patriots, like by like

2117
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:11,839
Speaker 6: a lot. It was like, yeah, yeah, but his stats,

2118
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 6: if you look at him at the end of the

2119
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 6: year are were really really impressive, but the team just

2120
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 6: didn't win. Yeah.

2121
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 8: Well, they always have social media, so that's good for them.

2122
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:22,560
Speaker 2: A lot of emails about movies. Still, people want to

2123
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: talk about movies, but we're going to hold off at

2124
01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 2: least for now. Get to some of the phone calls

2125
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:31,800
Speaker 2: Nate's and Wellington. What's up, Nate, Hey, guys, how you doing.

2126
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:35,719
Speaker 17: I just had a question.

2127
01:29:35,800 --> 01:29:38,120
Speaker 2: I was kind of pondering, you know.

2128
01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 17: Jacoby, I'm sure knows he's a gap year guy and

2129
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,080
Speaker 17: after this year he'd be done and I would be

2130
01:29:44,120 --> 01:29:47,000
Speaker 17: looking to, you know, get with another team. Do you

2131
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 17: think there's any chance if he's benched early in the

2132
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 17: season for May, is that that might affect the level

2133
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 17: of effort he'd put into his mentorship and may even

2134
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 17: create maybe a toxic environment in the locker room.

2135
01:29:59,240 --> 01:29:59,559
Speaker 9: Perhaps.

2136
01:30:00,240 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: I got to imagine that he understands that that scenario

2137
01:30:03,680 --> 01:30:05,840
Speaker 2: is very possible.

2138
01:30:06,040 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 5: You know, and like he's, oh, okay, well I'll hang

2139
01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:10,960
Speaker 5: up and listen enough for you, Fred.

2140
01:30:11,200 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to imagine he came in knowing that

2141
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:19,000
Speaker 2: that's very possible to happen, and his mind is prepared for.

2142
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:22,560
Speaker 5: I think the mentor part of this is wildly overblown

2143
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 5: and overrated.

2144
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:23,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2145
01:30:23,800 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 5: I think this is going to be up to the coaches.

2146
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:30,040
Speaker 5: Should be the mental to Drake May too. Yeah, you know,

2147
01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:32,920
Speaker 5: become the player that he can be, And it's on

2148
01:30:33,080 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett to prepare as much as he can to

2149
01:30:35,680 --> 01:30:39,800
Speaker 5: play if he's going to be playing. Like I I don't,

2150
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I do think there's a chance that, you know,

2151
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 5: it's not great because like it's human nature, and I

2152
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 5: kind of felt, I don't know if you guys, how

2153
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 5: much you guys listened to Zappi yesterday. I kind of

2154
01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,880
Speaker 5: felt bad listening to Bailey Zappy yesterday. You know, he

2155
01:30:55,960 --> 01:30:59,880
Speaker 5: talked a lot about well, you know, they talked to

2156
01:31:00,040 --> 01:31:02,519
Speaker 5: all four of us you know, it's an open competition.

2157
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 14: You know.

2158
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:06,120
Speaker 5: I forget what he said, like, well, I mean, that's

2159
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:08,760
Speaker 5: that's what they told that's what they told us, or

2160
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,400
Speaker 5: something like that. It was almost like he was saying,

2161
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 5: but I don't buy it because he knows he doesn't

2162
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 5: have any chance to win the starting job.

2163
01:31:15,280 --> 01:31:17,879
Speaker 6: That didn't I hope, So I really say, it's awkward

2164
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:19,839
Speaker 6: the quarterback he said it could.

2165
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 5: Be oh, it could be yeah, and he just said

2166
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:25,600
Speaker 5: it's you know, it was awkward, you know, ZAPPI now

2167
01:31:25,720 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 5: being he it's awkward. You know, it was only awkward

2168
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:29,840
Speaker 5: when you know we didn't know each other. Now you know,

2169
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 5: it's just finally like well that I mean, and I

2170
01:31:31,680 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 5: just I did. I kind of felt bad for Zach

2171
01:31:33,680 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 5: because I think he'd be better off going somewhere else.

2172
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 8: I felt similarly, but I almost felt like he was

2173
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 8: not really aware of Like I don't know, maybe he

2174
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:43,000
Speaker 8: was just ignoring it, but it just felt like, no,

2175
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:44,600
Speaker 8: it was awkward we didn't know each other, but you know,

2176
01:31:44,680 --> 01:31:46,519
Speaker 8: now we know each other, and it's finally like no, dude,

2177
01:31:46,880 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 8: like these guys are brought in to like get you

2178
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 8: out of the job, like you shouldn't be here anymore?

2179
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:51,760
Speaker 2: Do you understand that?

2180
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:53,400
Speaker 5: Like that's how you know?

2181
01:31:53,560 --> 01:31:57,280
Speaker 2: It kind of was? It felt like, but who's Zappi's agent?

2182
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,560
Speaker 2: Is there? Nicole Leon? Who else does she have?

2183
01:32:00,640 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 5: Any o?

2184
01:32:01,920 --> 01:32:04,439
Speaker 2: Yes? She has bar More? Okay, a couple other guys.

2185
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 8: Okay, I think too, like everybody forgets, like so much

2186
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:09,920
Speaker 8: can happen, Like I don't you know, I don't want

2187
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,960
Speaker 8: to speculate, but this sport is just it's crazy.

2188
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:13,840
Speaker 3: I mean, you never know.

2189
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,600
Speaker 8: I mean you saw in twenty sixteen Jacoby Brissett had

2190
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,519
Speaker 8: to start whatever it was, week three, you know, I mean,

2191
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:23,880
Speaker 8: circumstances happen, and I just think, you know, that's why.

2192
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,240
Speaker 6: I think he's still here. Yeah, is because I do

2193
01:32:26,360 --> 01:32:29,559
Speaker 6: think that they realized that, you know, Kobe gets hurt

2194
01:32:30,160 --> 01:32:33,160
Speaker 6: my theory, and we're not ready to put Drake in yet, right, Yeah,

2195
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 6: we're not gonna put Milton in.

2196
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Like where are we going to go from there?

2197
01:32:37,280 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 5: If we're hell bent on Drake doesn't play for X

2198
01:32:39,760 --> 01:32:41,600
Speaker 5: amount of weeks, you better have a bad better have

2199
01:32:41,640 --> 01:32:43,240
Speaker 5: a backup that can play, right, Yeah? Weird?

2200
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 8: Did all the miltone wasn't there yesterday? I mean, I

2201
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:46,559
Speaker 8: don't really want to speculate it could have been like, oh,

2202
01:32:46,560 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 8: we had to graduate or something, but like that's what

2203
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 8: I heared.

2204
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 5: It was, but that's total speculation. Yeah, but yeah, I

2205
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:53,640
Speaker 5: don't know.

2206
01:32:54,160 --> 01:32:55,599
Speaker 1: Ben didn't get to watch him.

2207
01:32:56,080 --> 01:32:57,880
Speaker 5: The first thing that we thought that Andy and I

2208
01:32:58,160 --> 01:33:02,200
Speaker 5: mentioned was the graduation. But I mean, I suppose it's individual,

2209
01:33:02,760 --> 01:33:05,519
Speaker 5: like if you've nowadays, you even have to go like

2210
01:33:05,560 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 5: there's so many different ways. Plus he's been in college

2211
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:09,880
Speaker 5: for a while, right.

2212
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: He should be graduated two years ago.

2213
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:19,800
Speaker 2: Actually, Ericson Holbrook, what's up? Eric? Eric, I'm Mark. I'm sorry,

2214
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:22,280
Speaker 2: Mark good.

2215
01:33:22,840 --> 01:33:25,960
Speaker 12: Finally, I'm pretty a sou for a very very very

2216
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,760
Speaker 12: very long time. That's how it called. Okay, But my

2217
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 12: biggest con is, my biggest trouble is that I know

2218
01:33:32,840 --> 01:33:34,080
Speaker 12: Freak May's not gonna stop.

2219
01:33:35,320 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: You know that I know that he ain't stopping.

2220
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:42,000
Speaker 12: The season I played, I played with Steve Gogin' Sevy

2221
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 12: Pro team, and I do a lot of jobs for.

2222
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: Oh inside knowledge?

2223
01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:51,280
Speaker 5: All right, So were you giving us inside knowledge like

2224
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:54,720
Speaker 5: you talked to the coaches or something. I'm being serious, Well,

2225
01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 5: how do you work for running Roland James Rock?

2226
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:02,160
Speaker 15: So No, I've been I'm a wife.

2227
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,240
Speaker 5: Fan, so okay, But as far as the cod.

2228
01:34:08,439 --> 01:34:10,160
Speaker 10: What does he do better than that?

2229
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,960
Speaker 12: That's what I'm trying to figure out because I've been watching.

2230
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:17,959
Speaker 6: Real better arms, more athletic, more experience, Yeah, more experience.

2231
01:34:18,040 --> 01:34:19,840
Speaker 5: I don't think he's more athletic, but everything else I

2232
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:20,599
Speaker 5: would agree with him.

2233
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,360
Speaker 13: He doesn't move around with.

2234
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 5: He doesn't move well in the pocket. He's not a

2235
01:34:24,200 --> 01:34:27,320
Speaker 5: good runner, but he's much bigger, much stronger, can drive

2236
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:28,280
Speaker 5: the ball downfield.

2237
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:31,400
Speaker 2: But you know, at the end of the day, Bailey

2238
01:34:31,479 --> 01:34:34,439
Speaker 2: Zappi might be a better quarterback than Jacoby Brissett.

2239
01:34:34,560 --> 01:34:36,680
Speaker 12: I think it'd be a huge mistake to get rid

2240
01:34:36,720 --> 01:34:38,880
Speaker 12: of them because we don't even know about Jako.

2241
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 2: No, we do know about Jacoby Brissett, and that's why

2242
01:34:44,120 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 2: he's here. Yeah, I think, yeah, I think Bailey Zappi

2243
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 2: wants to be a starter in this league. And I

2244
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 2: don't blame him in the you know, I think he won't.

2245
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:56,000
Speaker 2: My prediction is he won't be here at the end

2246
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:56,479
Speaker 2: of the season.

2247
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,440
Speaker 5: He's gonna be here training.

2248
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:03,000
Speaker 17: Last we all go off that last game against I

2249
01:35:03,080 --> 01:35:05,360
Speaker 17: mean they had no hero Henry he played.

2250
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:06,920
Speaker 6: With that line.

2251
01:35:06,960 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 5: We're talking about Zappi again.

2252
01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 2: I don't know.

2253
01:35:08,840 --> 01:35:12,280
Speaker 6: Zapi had plenty of bad games. Yeah, we've we've seen

2254
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 6: plenty of He's played eight games.

2255
01:35:13,880 --> 01:35:15,519
Speaker 5: A couple of them were pretty good, a couple of

2256
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,400
Speaker 5: them were really really bad, and the rest of them

2257
01:35:17,439 --> 01:35:20,280
Speaker 5: were met. I mean that's I mean, he's only played

2258
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,080
Speaker 5: eight games. I'm not saying that that's the end of

2259
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:27,120
Speaker 5: his career, but I mean he but like, yeah, I know, sure,

2260
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 5: And it looked the same exact when Mac Jones was playing.

2261
01:35:30,240 --> 01:35:33,720
Speaker 5: It was bad, it was bad. He threw a lot

2262
01:35:33,760 --> 01:35:37,680
Speaker 5: of interceptions. He was bad. He had three touchdowns in

2263
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:39,479
Speaker 5: the half, right, and then how do you do in

2264
01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 5: the second half?

2265
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:42,720
Speaker 12: Well, they kind of held him back.

2266
01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, they held him back by him throwing interceptions.

2267
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,800
Speaker 5: That was that, that was the held's back part. He

2268
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 5: actually held the Steelers back into the game by throwing

2269
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,800
Speaker 5: a pick that set up a touchdown. Okay, let's go

2270
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 5: back to said how does he do with that off

2271
01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 5: the line, and we'll see we haven't seen him play.

2272
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 2: Well, that's the different team this year we got.

2273
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,439
Speaker 5: I think we get better receive this year. Well, I

2274
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:11,479
Speaker 5: don't know. I mean we'll see, I mean, we'll see

2275
01:36:11,479 --> 01:36:13,760
Speaker 5: if the two rookies are any good, But other than that,

2276
01:36:14,080 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 5: it's the same.

2277
01:36:14,760 --> 01:36:17,479
Speaker 6: I don't understand why it doesn't really matter.

2278
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:18,120
Speaker 2: I can't.

2279
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 5: This is not one I had on my bingo. Car

2280
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:22,760
Speaker 5: I agree with you, thanks Mark. Totally irrelevant.

2281
01:36:22,880 --> 01:36:25,080
Speaker 2: No, I mean there's Bailey Zappy people out there, but

2282
01:36:25,520 --> 01:36:29,280
Speaker 2: that's fine. Like you know, debating Jacoby said for his

2283
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 2: Bailey Zappi to me is kind of wasting time.

2284
01:36:32,360 --> 01:36:34,519
Speaker 5: Who cares? Who cares what the right answer is?

2285
01:36:34,640 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 6: It's yeah, it's something to do with like them personally.

2286
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:37,559
Speaker 2: It's just.

2287
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:44,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, attracted that like a superstition, never comes to the

2288
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:47,920
Speaker 5: same door you left it never come back came and

2289
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 5: how that door came back in this I just it's

2290
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:53,120
Speaker 5: like a Brady Bunch thing. I think it's irrelevant which

2291
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:56,120
Speaker 5: one's better between those two. That's my point. Who cares

2292
01:36:56,160 --> 01:36:56,960
Speaker 5: what the right answer is?

2293
01:36:57,080 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I can make an argument for Bailey Zappi,

2294
01:36:59,880 --> 01:37:01,760
Speaker 6: I make an argument for Jacoby Brissett.

2295
01:37:01,479 --> 01:37:03,719
Speaker 5: But ultimately you don't want either one of them playing

2296
01:37:03,880 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 5: long term for your team.

2297
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 2: But if the question is which backup would be more

2298
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,400
Speaker 2: upset about losing his job to May, I would say

2299
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,519
Speaker 2: that would be Zappy. Like Zappy, I think Jacoby Brissett

2300
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,479
Speaker 2: knows his role. I think Zappie wants to be a

2301
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:21,719
Speaker 2: starter in this league.

2302
01:37:21,640 --> 01:37:23,200
Speaker 6: At least wants to compete to be in start.

2303
01:37:24,439 --> 01:37:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Chester's in Portland. What's up? Chester?

2304
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,360
Speaker 12: God, what's going on?

2305
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:34,680
Speaker 2: We're doing all right, doing all right? Buying apparel you know,

2306
01:37:35,560 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 2: n Well, let's.

2307
01:37:36,800 --> 01:37:39,599
Speaker 12: Get those number ten jerseys either altered or body bull

2308
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 12: stops Because you know, feeling pretty optimistic about what's coming

2309
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,120
Speaker 12: up and a good day for me, I'm going in

2310
01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:47,840
Speaker 12: to work a little way. I just really wanted to

2311
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 12: talk into the the point about what's going to modify

2312
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,519
Speaker 12: this being a successful season. And you know, I think

2313
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,880
Speaker 12: we're so caught up in the quarterback change and what's

2314
01:37:56,960 --> 01:37:59,040
Speaker 12: you know, what's to come, But I think it really

2315
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 12: starts and ends with the coaching staff and if we're

2316
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,040
Speaker 12: gonna have some sort of continuity, what Male was gonna

2317
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 12: do in situational you know, moments in the football game.

2318
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 12: I was gonna lead this team and ultimately, you know,

2319
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 12: the team's gonna bring back a great equality that's gonna

2320
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 12: make us relevant and you know, possibly be a difference

2321
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:19,680
Speaker 12: in a in a defensive battle or a game that's

2322
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,600
Speaker 12: gonna be Cloke. Uh, you know, that's what I'm looking for.

2323
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,280
Speaker 12: I'm looking for character and for this team to be

2324
01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 12: relevant and really starting with the coaching, the coaching staff.

2325
01:38:29,200 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 12: You know, I'm excited about Sam Pelt, But you know

2326
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,160
Speaker 12: what was the last time season was no a great

2327
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 12: quarterback play is auto graam. I mean, you know, I'm

2328
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:40,360
Speaker 12: wondering what is going to bring to the quarterback room

2329
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 12: in helping me to develop. I'm in the board of thinking,

2330
01:38:43,920 --> 01:38:45,559
Speaker 12: you know, we need to seper set a little longer

2331
01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 12: than you know, a month or so and let this

2332
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:51,880
Speaker 12: kid really learn, get the playbooks down. But overall, guys,

2333
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:55,200
Speaker 12: I'm optimistic. I'm really excited about you know, the guys

2334
01:38:55,280 --> 01:38:57,360
Speaker 12: coming in and I hope this offensive line could take

2335
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,720
Speaker 12: a few steps forward. You know, to me that what

2336
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 12: Reilly rapid terms of me saying, yeah, Jack, I'm I'm

2337
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:05,880
Speaker 12: looking forward to seeing what next season can be. Uh,

2338
01:39:05,960 --> 01:39:09,360
Speaker 12: you know, Boston playoffs and anything beyond that. You know,

2339
01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:13,080
Speaker 12: of positives will be silver lining and gravy in my opinion,

2340
01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,680
Speaker 12: But you know, I'm excited of the season. Thank you

2341
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:18,000
Speaker 12: for all the off season coverage. I listened every time.

2342
01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:20,880
Speaker 2: Just good to get a chance to fall in take

2343
01:39:20,920 --> 01:39:24,479
Speaker 2: it easy, all right, thanks Schester Chester is a long

2344
01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,880
Speaker 2: time listener, and he used to call in, and you

2345
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: have these pep talks, and there was one I forget why,

2346
01:39:29,960 --> 01:39:32,479
Speaker 2: but you know, Patriots Nation needed a pep talk, and

2347
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:36,120
Speaker 2: he ended it with buy apparel and it went down.

2348
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,040
Speaker 2: And as I marched to a trumpet, right, I know

2349
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:41,960
Speaker 2: it was tough. They they lost the game.

2350
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,560
Speaker 6: You're the one that wanted to move on from it,

2351
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:50,880
Speaker 6: that's right, he read. He reads the show notes, and

2352
01:39:51,160 --> 01:39:53,559
Speaker 6: the North remembers Nor remembers.

2353
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:54,439
Speaker 13: Uh.

2354
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:57,560
Speaker 2: Pete Otowell writes in I've emailed before about listening to

2355
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,559
Speaker 2: old podcasts, which, by the way, are still very interesting.

2356
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,360
Speaker 2: Oh God, especially knowing the outcome of the season. I

2357
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,080
Speaker 2: just listened to when Mike was in Vegas for the

2358
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:09,760
Speaker 2: joint practices August twenty twenty two. I had forgotten how

2359
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:12,760
Speaker 2: miserable he sounded. Paul showed that he can be a

2360
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:15,720
Speaker 2: good person when he wants to be. He was very

2361
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 2: sympathetic and tried to make Mike feel better. That practice

2362
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 2: must have been when Mike realized they were doomed.

2363
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:25,640
Speaker 1: I'm having trouble remembering being miserable well that.

2364
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:28,360
Speaker 5: That it was one of the practices that they were

2365
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:31,640
Speaker 5: making plays all over the Patriots and DeVante Adams.

2366
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,400
Speaker 2: But nobody was happy and that joint because it was

2367
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,720
Speaker 2: it was week two of being on the road, and

2368
01:40:37,840 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 2: even the players like, we just want.

2369
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:39,760
Speaker 10: To go home.

2370
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:41,640
Speaker 5: It was like one hundred and ten degrees. I mean,

2371
01:40:41,680 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 5: I remember that stuff, but I do remember. I think

2372
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 5: it was week two of being on the road. I

2373
01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:48,640
Speaker 5: think it was Trent Brown just want to go on

2374
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 5: the road. But they went to joint practices in Vegas.

2375
01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:51,600
Speaker 5: They played a game, But.

2376
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:54,760
Speaker 8: Don't you remember the last couple team sessions I thought

2377
01:40:54,840 --> 01:40:56,320
Speaker 8: were actually kind of positive, like.

2378
01:40:56,680 --> 01:40:57,680
Speaker 5: They went back and forth with them.

2379
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:01,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, they I mean I think maybe Henry, you know,

2380
01:41:01,080 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 8: they're just doing two minute offense right, you know at

2381
01:41:03,000 --> 01:41:06,600
Speaker 8: the end eleven on eleven. But I was enamored of

2382
01:41:06,680 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 8: Devonte Adams just watching him in drills after, you know,

2383
01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:11,560
Speaker 8: having watched Patriots receivers for a while and you're like,

2384
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:14,320
Speaker 8: this is what a stud looks like. And they remember

2385
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:16,360
Speaker 8: a rep against Jalen Mills where it was just up

2386
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,040
Speaker 8: the sideline and all of a sudden he just went

2387
01:41:18,479 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 8: hammered down goodbye and just like ran right by him.

2388
01:41:22,240 --> 01:41:24,720
Speaker 8: You know, even Hunter Renfrod was kind of still impressive.

2389
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:27,920
Speaker 6: At that Hunter Renfro and De Monte Adams, you know,

2390
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 6: even like what you know, it was clear watching those

2391
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:33,360
Speaker 6: practices that even the Raiders, like their top end talent

2392
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,320
Speaker 6: was just like Max Crosby obviously on the other side,

2393
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:40,000
Speaker 6: like they just had much better their top five of

2394
01:41:40,080 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 6: their roster and was just much better than the Patriots.

2395
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 8: The walk to in and outs was stands out most

2396
01:41:44,240 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 8: we having and I were like, we went buy an

2397
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 8: in and out and it seemed like it was close,

2398
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:47,880
Speaker 8: and then we just started walking.

2399
01:41:47,960 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: We were like in the desert, like a waste lang.

2400
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:53,639
Speaker 8: There's like tumbleweeds and radle states going by, Like we're

2401
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,320
Speaker 8: gonna get that double double I promise.

2402
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 5: Is that like at the meadow Lands. I remember the

2403
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 5: old statistician Roger Fred Yeah, had across like Route three.

2404
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,759
Speaker 2: But the thing about it, so you have the Giant

2405
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:13,479
Speaker 2: stadium and the hotel and it looks like, oh it's closed,

2406
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:17,759
Speaker 2: but there's like it's like a maze of highways in between,

2407
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,160
Speaker 2: and there's this guy, you know, three hundred pounds, you know,

2408
01:42:21,520 --> 01:42:25,280
Speaker 2: overweight guy with his like old style briefcase trying to

2409
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:28,760
Speaker 2: cross these highways sweat, and people are screaming at him

2410
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,559
Speaker 2: new idiots yourself killed, beeping their horns. Oh, he said

2411
01:42:33,600 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 2: it was the most frightening thing he ever did. Where

2412
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:37,320
Speaker 2: was he trying to get? He's trying to get from

2413
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:38,600
Speaker 2: a hotel in Jersey.

2414
01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:40,040
Speaker 1: To the to the medal was just trying to walk

2415
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:40,639
Speaker 1: to the medalands.

2416
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,320
Speaker 5: But you could walk like we we originally used to

2417
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 5: stay at like a metal land Sheridan, I think, yeah,

2418
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,000
Speaker 5: and it was walking distance, but it wasn't walkable, if

2419
01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:49,599
Speaker 5: that makes sense.

2420
01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all high its maze of highways, and he

2421
01:42:54,200 --> 01:42:57,760
Speaker 4: somehow didst like you, you take a wrong exit on

2422
01:42:57,920 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 4: that maze and you're you're thy minutes.

2423
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:04,719
Speaker 2: But thinking about think about walking across all those highways.

2424
01:43:04,760 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 2: You can't do it. And he did it barely. He's

2425
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,120
Speaker 2: because he's like, oh, I'll just walk. It's right over there.

2426
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:14,160
Speaker 5: That stadium stinks, yeah.

2427
01:43:14,120 --> 01:43:15,120
Speaker 2: For what they paid for it.

2428
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:16,799
Speaker 5: Even area around it stinks.

2429
01:43:16,840 --> 01:43:18,240
Speaker 2: The stadium. That's where I saw Bruce.

2430
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:20,759
Speaker 1: I saw Bruce there the what was it the Continental

2431
01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:21,559
Speaker 1: Airlines Arena?

2432
01:43:21,960 --> 01:43:25,120
Speaker 6: The Devil air conditioning like it looks like an air

2433
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:26,200
Speaker 6: like one of those old well.

2434
01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,040
Speaker 2: When they built the stadium, they ran out of money.

2435
01:43:28,080 --> 01:43:29,880
Speaker 2: But when they built it, the whole idea with those

2436
01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,479
Speaker 2: slats is they they were they'd move in depending on

2437
01:43:33,560 --> 01:43:35,839
Speaker 2: whether it's the Giants or the Jets, that the stadium

2438
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:39,000
Speaker 2: would have a completely different look. And they never never

2439
01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:41,120
Speaker 2: got to that point they ran out of money.

2440
01:43:41,960 --> 01:43:44,320
Speaker 8: Yeah, probably getting old. Now what was that like two

2441
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 8: thousand and seven, thousand and eight somewhere around there. I

2442
01:43:46,040 --> 01:43:49,559
Speaker 8: feel like maybe time goes by.

2443
01:43:49,640 --> 01:43:52,560
Speaker 6: It's just like I always say to people about the Meadlands.

2444
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 6: It's like if Lego built like football stadium, like that

2445
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 6: is what the medal like. It's just such a generic

2446
01:44:00,000 --> 01:44:02,440
Speaker 6: you know. What's funny is the old Medal Lands was phenomenal,

2447
01:44:02,840 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 6: like for its time. The New Metal Lands is terrible,

2448
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:06,479
Speaker 6: well for its time.

2449
01:44:06,640 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 2: Some of the amenities like we don't get to see them.

2450
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:10,960
Speaker 2: But the club spaces are nice.

2451
01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:11,400
Speaker 6: You know.

2452
01:44:11,479 --> 01:44:13,920
Speaker 2: They were one of the first teams to be inventive

2453
01:44:14,040 --> 01:44:16,400
Speaker 2: with where they put clubs. You know, they had one

2454
01:44:16,479 --> 01:44:19,639
Speaker 2: on the sideline and different levels of you know, because

2455
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:23,280
Speaker 2: they wanted to maximize the corporate base in New Jersey

2456
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:23,760
Speaker 2: and New York.

2457
01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 5: It's so yeah, yeah, it's sterile.

2458
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, that's what I hate about it, like they've become

2459
01:44:29,320 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 8: all like that, Like even like the old Boston Garden,

2460
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,719
Speaker 8: like it just had such a feel to it and character,

2461
01:44:34,920 --> 01:44:39,120
Speaker 8: and so few professional sports arenas stadiums have any kind

2462
01:44:39,160 --> 01:44:40,000
Speaker 8: of character.

2463
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 6: You know. What's a big topic. Actually, you know what

2464
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 6: arena has that?

2465
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:43,800
Speaker 5: Your place?

2466
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 8: Which one?

2467
01:44:44,560 --> 01:44:47,799
Speaker 5: Indiana Indian Indiana basketball. Yeah, we actually one of the best.

2468
01:44:49,240 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Scouting the Pacers. No, that was fun.

2469
01:44:52,280 --> 01:44:55,240
Speaker 5: We had fun. That's a great place to watch a game.

2470
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,600
Speaker 8: But it's got And when we were there, Paul and

2471
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,639
Speaker 8: I was like, I don't even know what this means.

2472
01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,280
Speaker 8: When I'm like, it feels like a fieldhouse and I

2473
01:45:01,320 --> 01:45:01,840
Speaker 8: don't know why.

2474
01:45:02,040 --> 01:45:05,120
Speaker 5: That means, Like it's just it kind of has that

2475
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:08,760
Speaker 5: game a lot of names.

2476
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:11,040
Speaker 2: I will do a cap tip to baseball. A lot

2477
01:45:11,080 --> 01:45:13,160
Speaker 2: of the baseball parks have that good A little bit.

2478
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,400
Speaker 5: That's a good, that's a good. That's camping yards was

2479
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:17,400
Speaker 5: the original they started it.

2480
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but even but even the new ones seem to

2481
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 2: have they understand that, they understand that.

2482
01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:26,200
Speaker 8: But now it's like even this stadium and Tennessee kind

2483
01:45:26,240 --> 01:45:27,120
Speaker 8: of the same same thing.

2484
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:28,880
Speaker 2: You wouldn't know where you are.

2485
01:45:28,920 --> 01:45:31,800
Speaker 5: Too many, you know, like at least this has some

2486
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:36,439
Speaker 5: characteristics like the medal is just like this, like as

2487
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:41,559
Speaker 5: Eric Eric Evan said, just kind of generic, like an

2488
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:42,280
Speaker 5: Erector set.

2489
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,719
Speaker 8: Real quick though, speaking of en if you guys watched

2490
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 8: the p w h L final last night, Boston lost unfortunately,

2491
01:45:48,520 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 8: but what an atmosphere there.

2492
01:45:49,560 --> 01:45:50,320
Speaker 1: They were going nuts.

2493
01:45:50,360 --> 01:45:53,200
Speaker 5: I did not, and I watched a lot of those

2494
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:57,400
Speaker 5: uh of that series. But yeah, it's too bad that

2495
01:45:57,479 --> 01:45:59,040
Speaker 5: they got so thoroughly all played.

2496
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, because great atmosphere, a lot of Speaking of women's sports,

2497
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 2: bart in Poland, did you watch the Osaka Sweitik match?

2498
01:46:05,840 --> 01:46:08,479
Speaker 2: Women's tennis at its finest? Isn't I of the best?

2499
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,000
Speaker 2: I did not see that.

2500
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:13,480
Speaker 5: Oh I didn't realize Osaka was back in the yack

2501
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:14,160
Speaker 5: in the majors.

2502
01:46:14,240 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: Yes, she's back playing pretty well.

2503
01:46:16,120 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 8: French French Open right now?

2504
01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,439
Speaker 2: What are we French Open?

2505
01:46:21,800 --> 01:46:24,479
Speaker 6: And the point about stadiums is actually a pretty big topic.

2506
01:46:24,680 --> 01:46:26,080
Speaker 6: You know, we got to talk about the Celtics at

2507
01:46:26,160 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 6: least once on this show. And actually in the NBA,

2508
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:33,360
Speaker 6: the home court advantage UH is nowhere near as important

2509
01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:36,439
Speaker 6: as it once was. In a big reason why some

2510
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,599
Speaker 6: people that cover this think it is is because all

2511
01:46:38,640 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 6: the stadiums are now the same like they you know,

2512
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:44,360
Speaker 6: it's all and it's all very very you know, top

2513
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:46,840
Speaker 6: notch to like you know, back in the day, like

2514
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:49,920
Speaker 6: the Boston Garden like used to have like dead spots

2515
01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:52,479
Speaker 6: on the parquet, like Larry Bird would know where the

2516
01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:54,759
Speaker 6: dead spot was, but some you know, a guy visiting

2517
01:46:54,840 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 6: wouldn't have known. And you know, like they feel like

2518
01:46:57,560 --> 01:46:58,160
Speaker 6: the conditions.

2519
01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:00,560
Speaker 2: But even from a noise standpoint where you know, you

2520
01:47:00,640 --> 01:47:04,400
Speaker 2: would think you would get the home court advantage. You know,

2521
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:07,560
Speaker 2: when your team's on defense, everyone's the only defense. But

2522
01:47:07,640 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 2: when your team's on offense, they're going, let's go Celtics,

2523
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 2: it's just as loud, you know, and they're playing music now,

2524
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 2: you know, during possessions. So like from a noise standpoint,

2525
01:47:17,280 --> 01:47:19,320
Speaker 2: it's it's noisy whether or.

2526
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:20,120
Speaker 8: Not you have the ball.

2527
01:47:20,520 --> 01:47:23,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's all of it's so streamline now

2528
01:47:24,040 --> 01:47:27,040
Speaker 6: where like every stadium in the NBA is just exactly

2529
01:47:27,120 --> 01:47:29,320
Speaker 6: the same. And this eventually happened. Like hockey, there is

2530
01:47:29,400 --> 01:47:32,639
Speaker 6: no really home ice advantage because it's literally the same

2531
01:47:32,720 --> 01:47:35,200
Speaker 6: ice no matter where you play. And I feel like

2532
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,200
Speaker 6: that's happened in the NBA now too. So now like

2533
01:47:37,479 --> 01:47:39,439
Speaker 6: teams went on the road in the NBA playoffs all

2534
01:47:39,439 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 6: the time and that never used to happen.

2535
01:47:41,040 --> 01:47:42,799
Speaker 8: Makes you even wonder with like a team like the Bruins,

2536
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,200
Speaker 8: maybe other teams, like there's almost more pressure playing at

2537
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:47,040
Speaker 8: home in front of your own fans, like rather than

2538
01:47:47,160 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 8: like we're just on the road, just play loose, you know,

2539
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 8: I don't know.

2540
01:47:49,640 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah. Claire in West Midlands, Hello everyone, Hello Marien. I'm

2541
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,720
Speaker 2: totally with Evan on his respect for mccordy. But for me,

2542
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,960
Speaker 2: there should be two retired numbers and that's it. And

2543
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:06,200
Speaker 2: I'm wavy on the second one, twelve for sure, and

2544
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:09,200
Speaker 2: I'm really inclined for eighty seven, but I could be

2545
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 2: persuaded against it. No, I'm with Duce. Let's see the

2546
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:12,880
Speaker 2: numbers back out.

2547
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:15,439
Speaker 1: There, Claire, stick with your stick with your convictions the

2548
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:16,720
Speaker 1: tight ends. You want eighty seven, but.

2549
01:48:16,760 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 2: Think about it, Yeah, think about it.

2550
01:48:18,080 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 6: Though.

2551
01:48:18,640 --> 01:48:22,080
Speaker 2: Let's just say you went to the college route. Wouldn't

2552
01:48:22,080 --> 01:48:24,040
Speaker 2: it be cool like when you rise to a level

2553
01:48:24,120 --> 01:48:26,920
Speaker 2: at a tight end, you got to wear eighty seven.

2554
01:48:27,240 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 2: When you first come in you don't get to wear it.

2555
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:32,280
Speaker 6: But like you make a Pro Bowl instead of you

2556
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:35,880
Speaker 6: become at all tired numbers a threshold when you get

2557
01:48:35,880 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 6: to ye graduate.

2558
01:48:37,560 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's hard. That's hard to do because now

2559
01:48:41,320 --> 01:48:43,800
Speaker 5: you're asking people to change their numbers as pros. A

2560
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:45,519
Speaker 5: lot of players don't want to do that.

2561
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:46,679
Speaker 2: That's true.

2562
01:48:46,840 --> 01:48:49,479
Speaker 5: Like in college, you kind of give that number to

2563
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:53,160
Speaker 5: the guy that you're sort of anointing. Yeah, you know,

2564
01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 5: this is the next big thing.

2565
01:48:55,520 --> 01:48:57,840
Speaker 8: Not usually often not names on the back either, So

2566
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,000
Speaker 8: you can just buy that jersey. But I can imagine

2567
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:01,800
Speaker 8: the sports meet debates would be fun, Like you know,

2568
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 8: I think, I mean, I think he's ready for eighty seven.

2569
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 5: I don't know he can't. No, no, not yet, you know, right,

2570
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:08,160
Speaker 5: I don't know.

2571
01:49:11,840 --> 01:49:13,160
Speaker 2: It's tough to change the number.

2572
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:15,960
Speaker 8: Right, It's almost like that with number one right now,

2573
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 8: with like Polk, like the guy who gets number one.

2574
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,240
Speaker 2: Like, you know, you gotta be good, like a little pressure.

2575
01:49:21,080 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 2: Brian writes in he's from Plymouth. When do you think

2576
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:27,600
Speaker 2: new uniforms we rolled out? Assuming it's inevitable with the

2577
01:49:27,680 --> 01:49:30,519
Speaker 2: new regime, I personally would love a pat Patriot reboot,

2578
01:49:30,600 --> 01:49:32,479
Speaker 2: as the Flying Elves could use a rest.

2579
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:38,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I wouldn't tie the new coaching staff to new uniforms.

2580
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 5: The owners are the same. It's not really a new

2581
01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 5: regime in that regard.

2582
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 2: Well, they could go to the.

2583
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:46,679
Speaker 5: They could, but that would be up to the craft Mayo.

2584
01:49:46,840 --> 01:49:46,960
Speaker 10: Right.

2585
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:48,960
Speaker 8: The Jets did a quick change, didn't they. Their their

2586
01:49:49,160 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 8: uniforms changes here and I'm not sure how slightly, but

2587
01:49:52,600 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 8: they had just a couple of years ago which I

2588
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 8: actually liked their old uniforms. I don't know why they

2589
01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 8: had to change.

2590
01:49:57,680 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 6: Such a popular question that we get about. People hate

2591
01:50:00,680 --> 01:50:02,880
Speaker 6: the Patriots uniforms and they want them change the.

2592
01:50:02,880 --> 01:50:06,240
Speaker 2: Blueberries, especially the blue beer, because they haven't played well lately.

2593
01:50:06,760 --> 01:50:09,360
Speaker 2: But this whole thing about the pat Patriot, people did

2594
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:12,040
Speaker 2: not like it back then, and now it's all nostalgia.

2595
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think the blue I think the blueberry, like

2596
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,960
Speaker 6: the blue jersey, needs to just be paired with gray pants.

2597
01:50:18,080 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 6: When it's blue jersey gray pants, it looks great. When

2598
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:21,639
Speaker 6: it's the blueberry, it looks terrible.

2599
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:21,880
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2600
01:50:21,880 --> 01:50:23,640
Speaker 5: I don't like I didn't love pat Patriot, but I

2601
01:50:23,720 --> 01:50:28,080
Speaker 5: don't remember people clamoring for new uniforms ever, and all

2602
01:50:28,080 --> 01:50:29,960
Speaker 5: of a sudden they just showed up one year when

2603
01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:32,439
Speaker 5: you know, they did have that sort of change when

2604
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 5: wine came in and parcels came in and they went

2605
01:50:36,080 --> 01:50:36,960
Speaker 5: to these blue uniforms.

2606
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, I don't remember back then, like you know, I'm

2607
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,240
Speaker 2: talking seventies, eighties.

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01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 5: I don't remember anybody clamoring.

2609
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:45,320
Speaker 2: People weren't obsessed with like uniforms and helmets the way

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01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:45,880
Speaker 2: they are now.

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01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:47,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and they was so much better.

2612
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: I think Madden might have done a lot with that,

2613
01:50:51,240 --> 01:50:52,599
Speaker 2: Like you can do the skins.

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01:50:52,680 --> 01:50:53,360
Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice, good use of that.

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01:50:55,680 --> 01:50:57,439
Speaker 8: But yeah, I mean I think you also see teams

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01:50:57,479 --> 01:50:59,479
Speaker 8: like the Chargers that you have a number of different

2618
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 8: uniforms night. You know, I think fans, you know, kind

2619
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:04,120
Speaker 8: of like that that novelty of you never know quite.

2620
01:51:03,960 --> 01:51:06,400
Speaker 2: What they're going to wear. Your City Connect uniform Connect

2621
01:51:06,680 --> 01:51:07,240
Speaker 2: the Chargers.

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01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:10,519
Speaker 6: The Chargers are like are like the kings of everything

2623
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,720
Speaker 6: that doesn't matter, Like, oh, we have great uniforms, we

2624
01:51:13,800 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 6: have uniforms, we have a great schedule release video.

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01:51:17,479 --> 01:51:19,320
Speaker 5: I told you last week, bad show.

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01:51:19,479 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 2: This week he's having a very strong show, very strong show.

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01:51:23,680 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 5: You brought your snark level up for I can't.

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01:51:27,400 --> 01:51:30,120
Speaker 2: Ryan also says shout out to the YouTube live chat

2629
01:51:30,360 --> 01:51:34,760
Speaker 2: glad Fred finally found out about Yeah, apparently.

2630
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:36,840
Speaker 5: It's the same.

2631
01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:40,760
Speaker 2: I welcome, I welcome all the YouTubers call into the show,

2632
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,960
Speaker 2: right into the show. If you want to write emails

2633
01:51:44,000 --> 01:51:45,240
Speaker 2: and all caps, I'll read them.

2634
01:51:45,439 --> 01:51:48,600
Speaker 1: Smash that subscribe button, especially if you're making to like

2635
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:53,639
Speaker 1: the lit army. The litz army is strong on the YouTube.

2636
01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,519
Speaker 2: All right. Uh, let's see trying to wade through the

2637
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,600
Speaker 2: movie once. Here's Ben and Hirshey. It's where almost to

2638
01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:04,960
Speaker 2: the end we can't open up that can of worms, now,

2639
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: you know, Ben and Hershey, I assume Pennsylvania. You have

2640
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:11,599
Speaker 2: been to Hershey, Pennsylvania. I have been to Hershey Park,

2641
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:12,920
Speaker 2: I have. Yeah, it's a great place.

2642
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,360
Speaker 5: When I was, I was a really little good take.

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01:52:15,520 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 2: I stayed at the Hershey Park Hotel. Like the hotel

2644
01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:22,160
Speaker 2: as well in the hallways, like there's a smell of chocolate.

2645
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:24,360
Speaker 5: Absolutely, and when you get to your room, they have

2646
01:52:24,600 --> 01:52:27,479
Speaker 5: complimentary Hershey like walk they like, which is exactly what

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01:52:27,600 --> 01:52:27,920
Speaker 5: I needed.

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01:52:28,000 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 2: As you know, I just turned the if you have

2649
01:52:30,880 --> 01:52:32,759
Speaker 2: young kids, Hershey Park's a good take.

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01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 10: You know.

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01:52:33,479 --> 01:52:35,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, that was. We had a good time and there

2652
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:38,960
Speaker 5: was a ridiculous deal on like a fast pass at

2653
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:42,599
Speaker 5: that park, and it was like unbelievable how many times

2654
01:52:42,680 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 5: the kids had got to go on roller coaches. They

2655
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:47,760
Speaker 5: just would like cut the line because we got a

2656
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:51,760
Speaker 5: fast pass that was like fifty bucks or something like ridiculous.

2657
01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:54,200
Speaker 8: It's amazing when it works out like that at at

2658
01:52:54,280 --> 01:52:55,880
Speaker 8: theme park and you're able to like whether it's you

2659
01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,320
Speaker 8: kittered on the right day or you get a fast pass,

2660
01:52:58,320 --> 01:52:59,920
Speaker 8: because there's been other days where I'm like, I want

2661
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:02,439
Speaker 8: three rides, and then there's other rides like Harry Potter

2662
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,960
Speaker 8: at Universal where it's like three and a half hours

2663
01:53:05,000 --> 01:53:07,439
Speaker 8: from this point, Like, who was paying all this money

2664
01:53:07,560 --> 01:53:09,400
Speaker 8: is that to stand in line for half the day

2665
01:53:09,479 --> 01:53:10,800
Speaker 8: to ride like a two minute ride.

2666
01:53:10,960 --> 01:53:13,080
Speaker 6: I used to I've been to Disney a couple of times,

2667
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,800
Speaker 6: but the best time was it was like one of

2668
01:53:15,840 --> 01:53:19,120
Speaker 6: those special like night time ones or they opened the

2669
01:53:19,160 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 6: park at at night. I think it's like Christmas time,

2670
01:53:22,240 --> 01:53:25,479
Speaker 6: and it's like nowhere near as many people because it's

2671
01:53:25,600 --> 01:53:28,000
Speaker 6: just like a sort of select like ticket to get

2672
01:53:28,040 --> 01:53:31,240
Speaker 6: in at night, and we rode like like every.

2673
01:53:31,040 --> 01:53:31,760
Speaker 2: Result like.

2674
01:53:33,600 --> 01:53:33,640
Speaker 12: That.

2675
01:53:34,200 --> 01:53:36,160
Speaker 7: If you're staying at a Disney Parks resort, you get

2676
01:53:36,200 --> 01:53:36,879
Speaker 7: to stay after.

2677
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:39,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was awesome. That was the best time because

2678
01:53:39,439 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 6: otherwise you're just waiting.

2679
01:53:40,439 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 5: I got to get in early once. I forget why,

2680
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,200
Speaker 5: but like an hour before the park.

2681
01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:46,200
Speaker 2: If you stay in the park, you get her an

2682
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:50,639
Speaker 2: hour early. Yeah, Ben In her she writes, I'm old

2683
01:53:50,720 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 2: enough to remember when Evan told us that the message

2684
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:56,600
Speaker 2: to fans if the Patriots draft Drake May should be

2685
01:53:57,080 --> 01:54:01,120
Speaker 2: have patients. But apparently he is. After one practice, he's

2686
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:04,400
Speaker 2: already bemoaning the coaching staff for not giving May more reps.

2687
01:54:04,840 --> 01:54:07,800
Speaker 2: May could benefit from the second team reps, but he's

2688
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:10,160
Speaker 2: only one player on the field trying to get ready

2689
01:54:10,200 --> 01:54:12,760
Speaker 2: for the season who is more likely to run the

2690
01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 2: offense correctly so that proper evaluation can be made of

2691
01:54:15,800 --> 01:54:18,800
Speaker 2: the wide receivers, the old line, tight ends, running back.

2692
01:54:18,920 --> 01:54:22,800
Speaker 2: ZAPPI your May. Last I checked. Football is a team sport. Yes,

2693
01:54:22,960 --> 01:54:25,880
Speaker 2: May's development is paramount to the long term success of

2694
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,600
Speaker 2: the team. But please don't pivot on your preach for

2695
01:54:28,760 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: patients after one week of practice.

2696
01:54:31,320 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 5: I don't understand.

2697
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:34,320
Speaker 2: I'll jump in for defense like I think.

2698
01:54:35,120 --> 01:54:36,280
Speaker 6: I don't even understand what he's saying.

2699
01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 8: He can be patient, but he wants him to get

2700
01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:40,520
Speaker 8: the experience. Now he's not saying like he needs to

2701
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:43,080
Speaker 8: play right now. He just wants him to start practicing

2702
01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:46,240
Speaker 8: and getting these so that you can speed up.

2703
01:54:46,360 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 6: Because once we get to September and they're preparing for

2704
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 6: the Bengals, he's not going to have time to practice, right.

2705
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:55,400
Speaker 5: They're not if he doesn't play for like two years, Jesus, Like,

2706
01:54:55,640 --> 01:54:58,120
Speaker 5: I don't think that's being like just because he said

2707
01:54:58,160 --> 01:55:00,200
Speaker 5: be patient before it started, doesn't mean he's to be

2708
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,360
Speaker 5: happy about it or anybody else would be for that.

2709
01:55:02,520 --> 01:55:04,680
Speaker 5: And even when in order to get ready to play,

2710
01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:05,520
Speaker 5: you have to practice.

2711
01:55:05,560 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, And even when I said be patient, I wasn't

2712
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 6: necessarily even talking about like when he gets on the field.

2713
01:55:10,200 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 6: I more was talking about like the results of like

2714
01:55:13,040 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 6: them winning being a contender all a sudden overnight. Like

2715
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,920
Speaker 6: that is when I was talking about, I don't know whatever,

2716
01:55:19,160 --> 01:55:19,560
Speaker 6: can't win?

2717
01:55:19,960 --> 01:55:21,800
Speaker 2: You can win, all right, No you can't.

2718
01:55:22,040 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 8: You did win.

2719
01:55:23,600 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 5: You want it life?

2720
01:55:24,720 --> 01:55:28,040
Speaker 2: That is going to be it for this edition of

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Speaker 2: Patriots Unfiltered, I want to thank everyone for listening this week.

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01:55:34,960 --> 01:55:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, I want to thank everybody for listening.

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01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:45,040
Speaker 2: I hope everyone has a good weekend, and we'll be

2724
01:55:45,120 --> 01:55:47,560
Speaker 2: back Tuesday, probably at two.

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01:55:47,960 --> 01:55:54,040
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