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Speaker 1: The following is the production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This is Media Match,

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Speaker 1: a roundtable of Cowboys insiders trumping wisdom and offering sizzling

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Speaker 1: takes on the current state of your Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: Now your host New He scrugs.

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Speaker 1: Media Match time right here from the Star in fris Sco. Hi.

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Speaker 1: Everybody on New He scrugs, along with my man Bobby

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Speaker 1: Belt one oh five three, the fan Cowboy insider. We've

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Speaker 1: got Jean Jaques Taylor, former Cowboy Beat writer and the

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Speaker 1: author here as we begin this show. Playing in the

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Speaker 1: background here is NFL Network and they've got the uh

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans and Seattle Seahawks money and that game on

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Speaker 1: for last night. And I just see the Houston Texas

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Speaker 1: at quarterback c er A CJ. Strouder. He just makes

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Speaker 1: it you realize, hey, baby, this league can turn in

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Speaker 1: a minute. Because after his rookie season, it looked like, gosh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was a stop. The star was high like RG

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Speaker 1: three rookies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Stars.

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Speaker 4: Now you look at ooh, you know he's he's odd too,

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Speaker 4: Because like RG three, I think a lot of people

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Speaker 4: felt like and I can see the come down. Like

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Speaker 4: certain quarterbacks they see me, You're like, I can envision

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Speaker 4: a scenario where they take a step back. Stroud was

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Speaker 4: not that guy. The first year you saw Stroud play,

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Speaker 4: it was like, well that's just only looks to be

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Speaker 4: going up.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, this is an interesting thing about the league.

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Speaker 1: And I bring that up talking about CJ. Strout. They

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Speaker 1: thought they had the answer. They don't. And over here

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Speaker 1: with the Dallas Cowboys, you know, nor what the forty five,

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Speaker 1: their quarterback is getting it done. And Bobby, you take

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Speaker 1: a lot of phone calls and a lot of text

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Speaker 1: over THET one to five three of the fan and

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Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of DAK haters out there, the

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Speaker 1: people who are consistently upset. That group is pretty quiet

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Speaker 1: right now because rain DeKota Prescott is playing at another level.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the only thing you have from a

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Speaker 4: dark critic right now is will tell me in January

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Speaker 4: come to come talk.

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Speaker 1: To me in January.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll get that one to it, But comes talk

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Speaker 4: to me in January when the playoffs matter. That's that's

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Speaker 4: when he's gonna crumble. That's the kind of stuff that

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Speaker 4: you're getting right now. But yeah, I mean it's really

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Speaker 4: hard to say anything negative about the way he's playing

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Speaker 4: football right now because he's playing it at such a

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Speaker 4: high level and in a way that is masking some

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Speaker 4: other issues, like, for instance, the past protection has not

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Speaker 4: been perfect for them and in previous years, Dak's probably

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Speaker 4: getting sacked five six more times this season than he

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Speaker 4: has been already. Uh So, I mean, you're you're seeing

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Speaker 4: him performing at such a high elite mental processing level

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Speaker 4: that you know it's able to cover over a lot

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Speaker 4: of other people's shortcomings. And that's what makes this offense

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Speaker 4: so dangerous right now.

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Speaker 5: And what he does in process he's running away from

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Speaker 5: like even the other day on the third and seventy

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Speaker 5: runs makes a guy miss, runs over another guy, gets

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Speaker 5: the seven yards for a first end sets at Ferguson touchdown.

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Speaker 4: When they go to the hurry.

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Speaker 1: Yet you hadn't seen it lately. Bro One thing I

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Speaker 1: can also say, I think it's being overlooked and not

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Speaker 1: talked about enough is the center. Cooper BB's not there.

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Speaker 1: Brock Hoffman is a nice player, but Cooper BB's window

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Speaker 1: is starting to open up here and getting back a

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Speaker 1: starting center along with an offensive line it's pretty much

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Speaker 1: been compromise since since after the first game. To be

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Speaker 1: able to do this is something that is not talked

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Speaker 1: about enough because obviously people don't pay attention to the

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Speaker 1: cover it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but it matters.

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Speaker 1: In this league. And when he can get back the

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Speaker 1: full set of offensive linemen, I'll be very curious to

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Speaker 1: see what it is they can do.

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Speaker 4: They I had somebody around the league tell me once

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Speaker 4: they said we have more in terms of the necessary

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Speaker 4: number that you need that. They said, we have more

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Speaker 4: quarterbacks in the NFL than we do offensive linemen in

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Speaker 4: terms of just if you need one in a backup.

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Speaker 4: We can fill those holes around the league easier than

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Speaker 4: we can fill five starting offensive linemen and three backups,

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Speaker 4: three to four backups. Because it's just such a talent

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Speaker 4: starved position. You got a lot of guys out there

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Speaker 4: like an over cell to use the sword. But that's

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Speaker 4: what was so amazing about what they did a couple

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Speaker 4: weeks ago with four backup offensive lineman walking in there,

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Speaker 4: and the fact that they continue to manage things. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Dak's getting sacked at the lowest rate of his career

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Speaker 4: right now without really having played with his offensive line

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Speaker 4: the entire season.

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Speaker 5: Check it out, though, what do we often said about

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Speaker 5: sex they're really a quarterbacks?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, who's getting rid of the balls?

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Speaker 5: So he's now Okay, if it's not there, I'll check

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Speaker 5: it down, I can move, I can get rid of it.

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Speaker 5: And so I think that plays a role into why

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Speaker 5: is not getting sicked as much. Yeah, you look at

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Speaker 5: he's in the metrics. Baby.

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Speaker 1: You look at quarterbacks like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning

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Speaker 1: in their careers and got to a point time where

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Speaker 1: these guys just wouldn't let you get to him. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll throw it. I'll throw it right in the ground.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw it over. I mean, they were just

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Speaker 1: they were hard to get to. They were hard to

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Speaker 1: get to, and Dak Prescott is there right now. And

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Speaker 1: also give the play call of Brian Schotenheimer credit because

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Speaker 1: these two are on the same page of what needs

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Speaker 1: set We're going to run the football, and they're running

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Speaker 1: It was very even run past ratio. I go back

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Speaker 1: to when Tony Rummel had his I thought, his best

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Speaker 1: the NFL Offensive Player of the Year because they were

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Speaker 1: able to get a run a pass run ratio that worked.

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Speaker 1: Because anytime Tony was throwing the ball forty fifty times,

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Speaker 1: it just wasn't good. That's really almost any quarterback in

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Speaker 5: And then their ability to run the ball has done

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Speaker 5: what It's made the red zone offense so much more

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Speaker 5: productive because not only can you run it in now

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Speaker 1: So what Carolina did, So Carolina just brought the safety

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you also play I think you played better in

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Speaker 4: the trade, Carolina beat you up. Yes, on the interior,

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Speaker 4: they they were they were that was a team that

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Speaker 4: and they didn't respond the right way and that physicality

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Speaker 4: really was tough for them. But you know, we talked

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Speaker 4: the subject of like what Stephen Jones says that there's

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Speaker 4: another level the offense can reach. It's like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 4: what can they do better? And when you start looking

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Speaker 4: then you're really looking at can I get Jayden Blue

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Speaker 4: to be a nice change of paceback to compliment Javonte Williams.

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Speaker 4: Can I lessen some penalties? Can I start hitting seam

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Speaker 4: routes to Titans? It's stuff that feels very narrow and

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Speaker 4: almost nitpicky at times because they are just playing as

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Speaker 1: So, well, can your tight ends hold some blocks better?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's a big thing. Tight ends blocking better?

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Speaker 4: And again that Dak one of his favorite throws his

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Speaker 4: and that's one of the ones that he's he's been

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Speaker 4: really good at. They threw it a ton out here

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Speaker 4: during the off season and during training camp, and then

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Speaker 4: what you're getting is once the season is it is

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Speaker 4: there have been five or six times where they've tried

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Speaker 4: to hit it and it's just been a little off

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Speaker 4: or somebody hasn't finished the play. They finally hit one

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Speaker 4: most part, that's one of those things that they're still

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Speaker 4: working on. But again, that feels like something that has

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Speaker 4: been such muscle memory for Dak in the past that

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Speaker 4: you're like, well, that's gonna come around at some point,

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Speaker 4: and you feel like Jayden Blue is gonna start contributing

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Speaker 4: at a higher level at some point. It just it

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Speaker 4: feels really difficult to stop this offense right now.

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Speaker 1: So we'll talk about jay Blue, the rookie from Texas.

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Speaker 1: I have to remind fans it's a different level, and

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Speaker 1: not to say that Jayden Blue by any means can't

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Speaker 1: adjust to it, but there's a learning curve for some people.

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Speaker 1: Some folks it's not I mean, he's Javante's really playing

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Speaker 1: a learning curve for him here and it may take

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Speaker 1: and they made a good pick. But Javonte comes out

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Speaker 5: But a learning curve should be to me on you know,

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Speaker 5: pass protection and stuff like that. But running back is

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Speaker 5: the most instinctive position in the game you could put

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Speaker 5: any I remember this man back to my kids flag

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Speaker 5: football days. They having their first day of tryals and

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Speaker 5: everybody's doing their thing. You go, oh, there's a quarterback

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Speaker 5: because that dude can throw the ball, and by five

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Speaker 5: That's why you can see freshman running backs playing on

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Speaker 5: the varsity. That's why you can see freshman running backs

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Speaker 5: show up in the NFL. Now, some guys might have

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Speaker 5: a learning curve, but Jared Rice had learning cur trop

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Speaker 5: Palomo I had learning curve. They learned, they learned, and

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Speaker 5: if you're a good player, you'll learn.

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Speaker 1: I said running backs.

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Speaker 5: I didn't say the mother because running back is just

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Speaker 5: everybody knows.

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Speaker 1: It's the easiest position when you tackle.

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Speaker 5: There's always one cat up there that you can't ever

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Speaker 5: tackle and don't matter when you started playing. That's all

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Speaker 5: I'm saying for running backs is instinctive. All the spots

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Speaker 5: I get.

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Speaker 4: You, I will say there's the stuff that's more than

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Speaker 4: just instinct that maybe you got to learn a little bit.

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Speaker 4: When Opening Night, when Miles Sanders breaks off that big

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Speaker 4: couple plays later, that's a good example of a veteran

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Speaker 4: and how to run behind it and run with patients

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Speaker 1: Not me.

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Speaker 1: Or if I'm selling you hope, you I'm not talking

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Speaker 4: for you, and it's it's clear, like, Okay, he's thought

442
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Speaker 4: about this, he knew exactly how he wanted to word

443
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Speaker 4: it and approach it, and it was that's the way

444
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Speaker 4: it was. And then there are other times where you're you're,

445
00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:07,320
Speaker 4: you're playing poker a little bit and you're like you bluffing?

446
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 4: Are you bluffing a little bit? It's it sounds like

447
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Speaker 4: you're you're, you're, you're, you're, you're trying not to tell

448
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Speaker 4: us what you got in your hand. And so, uh,

449
00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:18,400
Speaker 4: when we asked him about the trade deadline, very general

450
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Speaker 4: and vague and we could do something or we could

451
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Speaker 4: not do something. We could uh like you know, he said,

452
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Speaker 4: he said, does the effect on the field from this

453
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Speaker 4: past week affect us? Wanted to go do something? No?

454
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Speaker 4: What anything affected? No, it starts like I mean, just

455
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Speaker 4: was kind of in a couple of different directions there

456
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Speaker 4: to the point that it made me. My read of

457
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Speaker 4: it was that sounds like somebody who might be up

458
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Speaker 4: to something at some point, so or it's just interested

459
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Speaker 4: he's feeling It struck me that he was feeling a

460
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Speaker 4: little proactive.

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Speaker 1: So you do what I call the lieutenant cafe mm

462
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Speaker 1: hmm and af fe good men and Jerry's colonel jessup. Yeah,

463
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Speaker 1: and you just got him on there asking questions, you know,

464
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Speaker 1: the log why did Santiago need protection? So that you do,

465
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Speaker 1: and you just try to lead him into there and

466
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Speaker 1: you hope you get the Code RED. I did that

467
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Speaker 1: like two years ago about Jimmy and the Ring of

468
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Speaker 1: Honor when he wasn't putting him in the next thing,

469
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Speaker 1: you know, not about Jimmy sniveling, and you know, he

470
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Speaker 1: went off on that. So I got him to go

471
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Speaker 1: through there. Now, several people tried it because we had

472
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Speaker 1: that car wash of training camp and so everybody's lined

473
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Speaker 1: up in there. So I was just like letting people go.

474
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Speaker 1: And then I just kind of just say, you know, Jerr,

475
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Speaker 1: I like you, Wow, is it? Jerr? I like you?

476
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Speaker 1: But you and Jimmy, what's going on? This seems very petty?

477
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Speaker 1: And then we got him to go to the Code.

478
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Speaker 4: Red well, and I didn't even have to, like, I

479
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Speaker 4: wasn't fluffing up a question or anything like I but

480
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Speaker 4: he knew this was coming.

481
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

482
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Speaker 4: No, no, because what we've done is everybody has asked

483
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Speaker 4: him about the trade deadline, truly, and his answer on

484
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Speaker 4: it has been we're open for business. We're always open

485
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Speaker 4: for business. That's that's the general line that we've gotten.

486
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Speaker 4: And I knew if we asked him about the trade deadline,

487
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Speaker 4: he would just say we're open for business. So I

488
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Speaker 4: the way I asked him was, I said, what do

489
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Speaker 4: you need to see from your team that takes you

490
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Speaker 4: from we're open for business to I need to go

491
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Speaker 4: get somebody to put this over the top. And that's

492
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Speaker 4: when he said. In fact, the answer he gave was

493
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Speaker 4: I don't know that to actually affect a trade, that

494
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Speaker 4: what we see over the next few weeks is the

495
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Speaker 4: most important agreement as to how there might be a trade.

496
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Speaker 4: They'll probably if there was a trade, it will be

497
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Speaker 4: because it fits us. It fits us, and to fit

498
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Speaker 4: it's got to be a reason why the player would

499
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Speaker 4: leave that we're interested in going forward with. I mean

500
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Speaker 4: just was kind of going like, well, it have to

501
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 4: be this and all these little caveats where was like, man,

502
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Speaker 4: it just makes me wonder, are you are you just

503
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Speaker 4: trying to not let us see that you're getting a

504
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Speaker 4: little excited, sick.

505
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Speaker 5: He's because I perused the quotes all right, and then

506
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Speaker 5: I couldn't figure out what they meant, and so I

507
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Speaker 5: came to this conclusion that he's not really sure what

508
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Speaker 5: he wants to do, and a lot of it will

509
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Speaker 5: determine what they do on Sunday against Denver. So can

510
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Speaker 5: they win and win two in a row? And then

511
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Speaker 5: I don't care that it's the card new and maybe

512
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 5: it's uh Kyler Murray who's never lost.

513
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Speaker 1: Whatever.

514
00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 5: You got to figure you're better than the Cardinals, And

515
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,040
Speaker 5: now all of a sudden, you go, okay, if we

516
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: can get to that, we got the Raiders coming up

517
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,639
Speaker 5: after the Bay. I could paint a scene where all

518
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 5: of a sudden, we're six three and one. Let's go

519
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Speaker 5: get it.

520
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Speaker 4: You beat the Broncos. You beat the Broncos this week.

521
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Speaker 4: You've done something you haven't done in a longer time

522
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Speaker 4: than the last time you won a Super Bowl. You

523
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Speaker 4: won a Super Bowl more recently than you've beat the Broncos.

524
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Speaker 1: Wow.

525
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Speaker 4: In fact, no, no, no, beat the Broncos period. The

526
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 4: last time you beat the Broncos in Denver was before

527
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Speaker 4: you would won a title with the Triplets.

528
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Speaker 2: Regular Broncos and Denvers and.

529
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Speaker 4: Tommy Maddox rotating every other snap.

530
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Speaker 5: Ye, Shawn black Shawn from Virginia, so tough places a

531
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Speaker 5: lot of history there.

532
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Speaker 4: I'm just saying, if if you, if you walk in

533
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Speaker 4: to Denver and you play the Broncos team that Jerry

534
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 4: hasn't seen them beat thirty years, and you do it

535
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 4: with your guy Schottenheimer and your guy Dak against Sean Payton,

536
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 4: got going against Sean Payton, he may be floating home.

537
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Speaker 1: So so Clarence Hill said on Channel five with me,

538
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 1: you have to do something, you must make you have

539
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: to do something. He's putting Jerry out there, and I

540
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 1: just said, I don't know, and I said, I'm not

541
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: touching on one of these ones. Okay, I'm not doing it.

542
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 1: Some of the players that people are not doing it.

543
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Speaker 5: No, there's no player that would make you trade a

544
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Speaker 5: first round pick.

545
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I already traded him, so and they not

546
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Speaker 1: bringing it. Ain't coming back. So he don't walking through

547
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: that locker room, walking through that door. It's not an

548
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 1: offer that's gonna be made. So no, Now would I

549
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: move a two?

550
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Speaker 2: If you move a too, you'll move a one?

551
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 1: No, No, No, the ones. The ones have too much value.

552
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: First off, that's five year deal, five year deal and

553
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Speaker 1: cost control. And if you're going to let say, pay

554
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: George Pickens and Brandon Aubrey, I've got less room. So

555
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,719
Speaker 1: I need these picks because I need to get some players,

556
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: and most likely defensive players under control and get the

557
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: highest rated guys I can. Even if I take a

558
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 1: one and I parlay that down and trading it down

559
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: in the second round and getting more assets, but I'm

560
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: not moving to one at all. There's no player out

561
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: here that you're gonna be able to move because oh,

562
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: by the way, when you move them, they're gonna have

563
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: a big old contract whoever's giving him, and he's gonna

564
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 1: give you a dude is gonna have some a high

565
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: number that they're trying to get rid of. Okay, Okay,

566
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 1: So I would say no to giving up a one.

567
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 1: We won't talk twos or threes. Ain't gonna three, but hey.

568
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Speaker 4: I would be willing to give up a one if

569
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,840
Speaker 4: if you're telling me, I think these next couple weeks

570
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 4: are gonna be big for them. So as it stands

571
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: right now, and you look at the makeup of the

572
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,399
Speaker 4: roster and the way they're playing. I look at it

573
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 4: and I say, I need I need players on all

574
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Speaker 4: three levels of the defense. I can make an argument that,

575
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 4: but here's what I need, players on all three levels

576
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 4: of the defense. If over the next two to three

577
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:08,240
Speaker 4: weeks you look at it and go, okay, overshown is healthy. Okay,

578
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 4: there's my linebacker. Clowney is starting to look like he

579
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 4: may be knocking off the rust, and ez Iraku feels

580
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 4: like he's getting closer. If you feel like Ezeraku and

581
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 4: Clowney are now contributing in a way they didn't in

582
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,679
Speaker 4: the first six weeks, yeah, no, No, I'm saying if

583
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 4: you see, if you start seeing that, it's it's it's

584
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 4: going that direction. It is not. But here's here's what

585
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 4: I'm saying. If you feel like that, now we're talking

586
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:32,840
Speaker 4: about Okay, now giving up a single piece might be

587
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 4: to get a difference maker in the secondary, and you

588
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 4: feel like you've improved on the other two levels of

589
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,000
Speaker 4: the defense. If I can do that, if I can

590
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 4: find a fire sale, then in a in a league

591
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 4: that is very vulnerable right now, there are no great

592
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: teams in this league this year. There's nobody that you

593
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 4: just go I can see him in the super Bowl.

594
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,879
Speaker 4: You've no, no, no, no, this is this is no

595
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 4: no no no, no no no. Here's here's the thing.

596
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 4: That offense can compete with anybody if the defense can

597
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 4: get you by I just like and.

598
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: It's just me. They're not one player away.

599
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 4: Right, That's why I said it would have to be.

600
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 4: Over the next few weeks you get evidence that it's overshown,

601
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 4: clowney as a rocket, guys like that falling into place

602
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 4: for you.

603
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: I just and I and for and when you talk

604
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Speaker 1: about okay, you just mentioned defensive backs, I just don't

605
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Speaker 1: know of a defensive back out that is possibly going

606
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: to be available that I give up a one four

607
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: right now. And if that guy is out there, what

608
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: is it going to cost me to get that particular player?

609
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: And when I get that player, how does it also

610
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,719
Speaker 1: say my cap number prevent me from trying to resign

611
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: Pickings and also Aubrey. These two guys, Aubrey and Pickens

612
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,120
Speaker 1: are gonna cost you.

613
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Speaker 4: I agree. There's the safety position inherently, especially for a

614
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 4: team like this that does not like to spend capital

615
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 4: that high, even drafting safeties typically much less given them

616
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 4: for for veterans who they also then have to pay.

617
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 4: What I'll say is if you look at find one

618
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 4: of these teams that you feel like maybe in fire

619
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 4: sale mode, and if you talk to them and they say,

620
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 4: we have this safety, but we also have this other

621
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 4: defender on one of the other two levels, and it's

622
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 4: a one, and you're getting two players back potentially.

623
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Speaker 1: Okay, we were gonna take a break because you just

624
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: put something in my face over here. It's gonna make

625
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 1: me shout shout a one for him.

626
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, no, not not I'm not even

627
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 4: doing it. No, no, not just for him.

628
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: You know what, man, Dion Sanders is not walking through

629
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Speaker 1: that door. People. Okay, it's not gonna be anything like that. Now,

630
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: who's been mister not? It's just not not. That's Melissabeth,

631
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: you all been hanging out here. You're gonna put somebody.

632
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: That's a different question. That is a different question.

633
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: Oh that's a different question.

634
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: You know what, man, that's a difficult I'm.

635
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Speaker 4: Just I'm just saying, if you're looking at maximizing capital,

636
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: if you're looking if you're looking at maximizing your capital,

637
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 4: we find a team that wants to do that, is

638
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 4: willing to play ball with you on maybe multiple people.

639
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Speaker 1: And some bibecue the great Bill Parcells once when people

640
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: talk about Cootes that I like you call one one

641
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Speaker 1: hundred dollar quarterback. Okay, guys, try to dial one hundred

642
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: dial of defensive players. Go make some mcac on our team.

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644
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Speaker 1: them out. And Jonathan Mingo. Jay Mingo, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be on the fifty three man roster. He's here. I

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Speaker 1: and give you up possibilities, possibilities. So I like Illinoy,

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Speaker 1: all right, you can like Illinoy. But Bobby and Nick

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Speaker 1: are trying to get rid of Jayalen Tolbert. They're trying

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Speaker 4: Let me, I should be oh Mingo into No.

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Speaker 1: Mingo's under contract for next year. Jalen Tolbert's not under contract.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, so, yeah, I think it's context matters.

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Speaker 1: Yes.

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Speaker 4: One, there has been a disappointment with Talbert to this point.

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Speaker 4: Talbert would say he's been disappointed in the way things

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Speaker 4: have played out for him so far these first four years.

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Speaker 4: He is expiring. They're not bringing him back after this year.

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Speaker 4: I would not believe right like, you've already got a

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Speaker 4: room that you've invested capital in. There's just space questions

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Speaker 4: there and the fact that I think you should even

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Speaker 4: investigate looking into it is because somebody out there is

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Speaker 4: gonna look at it and go, that's a guy who

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Speaker 4: caught fifty passes and some touchdowns last year. We could

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Speaker 4: operate with that in our receiver room right now. Oh

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but I think that. To me, it's just

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Speaker 4: what's available for him here. Like I think it would

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Speaker 4: just do everybody some good to just say, let's find

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Speaker 4: something that may work for everybody the rest of the

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Speaker 4: way and then you can enter free agency next year.

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Speaker 1: So that's why I'm because we're doing the animash and

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Speaker 1: just keep going through it.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: So Mingo, who had some nice moments in training camp

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Speaker 1: before he got hurt, never played with.

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Speaker 5: Dak Prescott nice moments and train cabin, a cup of coffee,

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Speaker 5: You get your bus ticket to somewhere.

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Speaker 1: They're going to have an issue, or you can beat

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Speaker 2: That's that's that did not have him on being go cut.

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Speaker 1: So somebody's not somebody's gonna be wearing to salute the

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Speaker 1: service shirt on the sideline. The sweatshirt on Sunday is

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Speaker 1: if Illinois is no Mingo, who's going to be there

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Speaker 1: if you're also trying to move Jalen Tolbert, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: need him. Not he's gonna need to play, but Mingo

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Speaker 1: is going to be here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this isn't even about this is as you look.

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Speaker 1: Toward it could be fishing. As you look towards twenty

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Speaker 1: and you right down the roster ceed, Lamb, Turpin, flood Away, Mingo,

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Speaker 1: Pickens may not be here, Tobert most likely won't be here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm saying Pickens be here.

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Speaker 4: There's a it's not even about who the players are specifically.

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Speaker 4: There reaches a point where you have such a log

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Speaker 4: jam that it just you start evaluating, going like is

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Speaker 4: this the best use of resources? Like if is somebody

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Speaker 4: off the roster on the practice squad because they needed

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Speaker 4: a roster spots, and think of it, Is that a

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Speaker 4: valuable use of it if you feel like you've got

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Speaker 4: enough guys in the room that you like. And that's

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Speaker 4: the thing is that I think they've got enough guys

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Speaker 4: want to find out about things like that that it

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Speaker 4: makes sense to just say, we should find something to

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Speaker 4: them out in the free. Now, it didn't work out,

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Speaker 4: but here's ago. The Cowboys did this with a defensive

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Speaker 4: back at the end of training camp that they were

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Speaker 4: full on corners, they went ahead, made a trade. We've

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Speaker 4: got a concussion right now, yep, made a trade. And

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Speaker 4: that was when they did that. When they traded, they

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Speaker 4: had and they the rest of your that year. They

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Speaker 4: was a good corner room that year. But it was

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Speaker 4: just like, hey, holding onto this just seems unnecessary. Use

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Speaker 4: of how I think the approach to receiver would.

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Speaker 1: Make sense anyway, Mingo somebody, I'd just say, man, just

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Speaker 1: just see where it goes.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: I just think that I think they have a better idea.

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Speaker 4: I think they believe they have with more certainty. They

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Speaker 4: give them and what they are than they know about Mingo.

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Speaker 4: So I think to them it's like, at least there's

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Speaker 4: something for us to investigate here.

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Speaker 1: And he's under contract, not going anywhere, not go anywhere,

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Speaker 1: Jack Taylor. So you missed a negativity out there, man,

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Speaker 1: just let me know, letting you know, that's all. That's all.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wanted to bring it up and shot

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Speaker 1: he spoke about it a little bit. So let's see

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Speaker 1: where it goes. Because it's a long season. Long season.

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Speaker 1: Never know who else gets hurt, what can happen out there,

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Speaker 1: might need it. And then you can sit back here, say, boy,

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Speaker 1: they talked about that on the media.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 4: That's one of the other arguments people always give you.

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Speaker 4: This said, don't be so quick to trade away depth either,

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Speaker 1: Seventeen game seasons and when you start to think about

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Speaker 1: the last half of the season. The Cowboys have the

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Speaker 1: they got to face out here in the back, it's

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: You got the Chargers, you got the Chiefs, you got

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Speaker 1: on Christmas Day. I don't care that you just beat

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I know I've done that a few times.

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Speaker 1: I have not that's because you the sports directly, Bobby, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: let me know how it goes.

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Speaker 4: We get off, we're already trying to figure ot out. Okay,

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Speaker 4: we are gonna also coordinate it where we're doing Christmas

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Speaker 1: got this. You can get home, You can get home.

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Speaker 4: You get home for Christmas night?

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Speaker 5: Net flit or let's go back in one of those

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Speaker 5: years the Cowboys played New Orleans on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: You stay in New Orleans. That's an easy one.

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Speaker 2: No, man, Jerry sent the plane back for the beat writers.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you can't take that. That's get journalistice take.

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Speaker 5: Why you think I'm telling it twenty five years later

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Speaker 1: So you all gave Jerry check for the plane, right,

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Speaker 4: I would like to say that I would never be

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Speaker 2: To the jet back. Okay, had cocktails on the jet too, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, Bobby. Also speaking on Jerald Wayne Jeral Wayne Jones,

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Speaker 1: George Pickens spoke after the game about Pickings and you know, hey,

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Speaker 1: keeps going up for this young man after every game

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Speaker 1: he plays. And Dak Prescott. And I asked jac last Thursday,

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Speaker 1: hey you go to Jerry to say something to him.

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Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, I will. If they're going to get

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Speaker 1: the best out of Dak Prescott, they need to have

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Speaker 1: these two players. In my opinion, now here's the only question.

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Speaker 1: Here's the only question.

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Speaker 5: Do you and you have nobody can know except the

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Speaker 5: Pickings after you get paid.

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Speaker 1: That's a very good and fair question, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: And this is one where you have to rely on

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Speaker 1: to say what are we seeing what do we think

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Speaker 1: will change. It's kind of like Tara Loans. Tara Loans

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Speaker 1: Then when he thought he won't get his money, he acted.

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Speaker 5: And see, that's what I'm saying, Like if even if

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Speaker 2: Go, oh, I'll take that money, no problem.

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Speaker 1: And some players like okay. Then you'd have to know

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Speaker 1: which one is the age. He's not exactly doing nobody's people.

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Speaker 4: They ultimately do it and it's been fine. They've had

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Speaker 4: other instances of zero concerns about paying somebody and then

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Speaker 4: they pay him and they go, oh, it's it's it's

875
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Speaker 4: a different it's a different it's a different player, it's

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00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 4: a different person now in the locker room. And it's

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Speaker 4: one of those things where I don't know how much

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Speaker 4: you you you will be able to see it in advance.

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Speaker 4: I think that George Pickens seems genuinely happy here and

880
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 4: seems genuinely got beat here. I also think George Pickens

881
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Speaker 4: has never been a guy who's afraid to show you

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Speaker 4: how he feels about something or to talk to you

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Speaker 4: about how he feels something about something. So I mean,

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Speaker 4: I think that personality type that he is, he's the

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Speaker 4: kind of guy that, to me, I would actually not

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Speaker 4: have concerns about, because I would say, I think he's

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Speaker 4: going to be that guy regardless, because that's who he's

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Speaker 4: always been.

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Speaker 1: We don't know these guys, we don't know. All we

890
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Speaker 1: can go buy is what we see is parcels. As

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Speaker 1: you say, That's what I would say. What is the

892
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Speaker 1: head coach saying, what is the quarterback saying? And what

893
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Speaker 1: is my more importantly, what's my position coach saying? What

894
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Speaker 1: are we seeing? Because it's always a gamble, It's always

895
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Speaker 1: a gamble. And can you be deceived in pool? Yes, yes,

896
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Speaker 1: it happens. But I know what I've seen so far

897
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Speaker 1: makes me say I'll take that opportunity. I'll take the

898
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Speaker 1: chance because.

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Speaker 5: I think he makes the quarterback, Betty makes c D

900
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Speaker 5: Betty makes the offense better.

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Speaker 1: He's he's that.

902
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,479
Speaker 4: Deep ball is starting to click that was not click

903
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Speaker 4: in the first two weeks, it's hitting now.

904
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Speaker 1: And so I had asked him this week, I said,

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Speaker 1: are you are you on point with that where you

906
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Speaker 1: guys can look at each other and you just have

907
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,440
Speaker 1: this chemistry. He said, not yet. We're seeing getting there.

908
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Speaker 1: We're seeing them get that. And so I go back

909
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Speaker 1: to this one thing, Jack, and I'll let you go.

910
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: When I think about Peyton Manning, who was an excellent

911
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: talent in himself, that's why he's in the Hall of Fame.

912
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Speaker 1: But Bill Polly always made sure he had targets. He

913
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Speaker 1: walks in here, there's Marvin Harrison. They drafted regulating. They

914
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Speaker 1: use a first round pick on Anything's Oz, the wire receiver.

915
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Speaker 1: They use a first round pick on Dallas called the

916
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Speaker 1: tit End. They used first round picks on Edrin James,

917
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Speaker 1: and they and the kid Donald from they kept putting

918
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Speaker 1: talent around him, and he kept on putting up numbers.

919
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Speaker 1: What have we seen from Dok Prescott this year? But wow,

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Speaker 1: you know, instead of CDs and the Maybes at CD

921
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Speaker 1: and picking and a rejuvenated Ferguson and this guy's playing

922
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Speaker 1: at another level, why would you not keep it going?

923
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Speaker 5: No, that's and I think from Georgia's perspective. You didn't

924
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Speaker 5: spent your entire career with a bunch of busted quarterbacks.

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Speaker 5: Now you got a good one. Yeah, okay, you know,

926
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Speaker 5: do you want to go somewhere now, if you go

927
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Speaker 5: somewhere where the quarterbacks equally good? All right, but there's

928
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Speaker 5: only a handful.

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Speaker 1: Of those, right, And also the chemistry, Yeah, a lot

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Speaker 1: people people like Dak Prescott. He's a he's a good dude.

931
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Speaker 1: He's a good dude. It's a good dude. All right.

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Speaker 1: Let's end the show right there on a positive note.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: So you did it.

935
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Speaker 1: You did it finally. It took the whole show broadcast

936
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Speaker 1: once you opened up the bag of chips. Everything just

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Speaker 1: you know what, people got.

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Speaker 4: Happy tostitos bring the positivity.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I like that tagline. I'm gonna use it.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they do that. They listen to Bobby belt on

942
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Speaker 1: one O five three the Fan every morning. Jaques Taylor's

943
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Speaker 1: working on a fantastic book. You're gonna want to read it.

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Speaker 1: I can't say much more than that, but I'm telling

945
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Speaker 1: you right now you're gonna want to read it. I'm

946
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Speaker 1: just merely new scrugs. This is the media mash. Thanks

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Speaker 1: everybody involved, dallascowboick dot com. This has been a production

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