1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Welcome to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,199 Speaker 1: AM paranormal podcast network. Now get ready for another episode 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: of Strange Things with Joshua P. Warren. Welcome to our podcast. 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: Please be aware of the thoughts and opinions expressed by 5 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: the host are their thoughts and opinions only and do 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: not reflect those of I Heart Media, I Heart Radio, 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, or their 8 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage you to 9 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:57,520 Speaker 1: do your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. Yeah, 10 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: ready to be amazed the wizard of Weird. This is 11 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: Strange Thing. I am Joshua BE Warren, And each week 12 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: on this show, I'll be bringing you brand new mind 13 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: blowing content, news exercises, and weird experiments you can do 14 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: at home, and a lot more on this edition of 15 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: the show. White House Ghosts that will surprise you. You know, 16 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: every year I contact the White House in the fall 17 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 1: and ask for permission to go do a ghost investigation 18 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: of the haunted Lincoln Bedroom, and so far they have 19 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: never allowed it. In fact, they have never allowed anyone 20 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: to do it. I talked to a couple of experts 21 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 1: at the White House Historical Association in person up there 22 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. And they laughed when I told 23 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 1: them about this sada that will never happen. You know what, 24 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: I disagree. I think someday somebody is going to get 25 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: to do it. Somebody will be granted permission. I don't 26 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: know if it will be me or not, but I 27 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: have tried. And of course one of the big reasons 28 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,880 Speaker 1: is because in two thousand and eight I was contacted 29 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: by a man in Missouri named Bob Martin, and he 30 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: was reading this biography of President Harry Truman. And Harry 31 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: Truman conducted this enormous renovation of the White House and uh, 32 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: let's see, I guess it went from nineteen to nineteen 33 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: fifty two. And he hired this fantastic US National Park 34 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: Service photographer named Abbey Row to document the whole thing. 35 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: And there is this wonderful photograph of the gutted basement 36 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: of the White House. And in this photo, uh, you 37 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: see a bulldozer with the operator sitting on top of it, 38 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: and there are a few men who look like supervisors 39 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: kind of in the background, but off to the side. 40 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: In the background, Bob Martin noticed this very clear, obvious, 41 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: translucent figure standing there, and he said, could this be 42 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: a picture of a ghost? And when he sent this 43 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: to me, I was immediately intrigued and started doing uh 44 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: a men's analysis of this photo. And I even traveled 45 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: to Washington, d C. I mean, you know, I can't 46 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: of The first thing I did was I contacted the 47 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: Truman Library in Kansas City and got a really big, 48 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: high quality version of it. And then I went to 49 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: d C and talked to people with the National Park 50 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: Service in the National Archives and UH and and and 51 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: again the White House Historic Historical Association. I talked to 52 00:03:57,160 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: a bunch of professional photographers in the area, and basically 53 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: what what I concluded was that, you know, the the 54 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: only typical explanation somebody could come up with was maybe 55 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: there was a long exposure, meaning that well, the the 56 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: basically the film was exposed to light for you know, 57 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: like a few seconds, and that there was a person 58 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: standing there who just got partially exposed and then he 59 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: ran away. And it turns out that is not the case. 60 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: I won't go into all the details because I made 61 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: a whole video report about this, but um, it turns 62 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: out that this was not exposed more than about two seconds. 63 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:41,680 Speaker 1: And we can prove this because there actually is a 64 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: man who happens to be walking down a pile of 65 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: dirt in the photo. And I didn't even realize that, 66 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 1: believe it or not at the time I did my, 67 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: uh my video about this. But you can see exactly 68 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: the length he has stepped while the shutter was open, 69 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: and so it was only exposed for about two seconds. 70 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 1: There's no way you're going to get this crisply defined, 71 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: translucent figure standing there without some kind of blurring or smearing. 72 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: So I think it's the world's most amazing ghost photo. 73 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: And it turns out that when you when you look 74 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: at maps and you figure out where everything is located, 75 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: that figure just so happens to be standing beneath the 76 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 1: Lincoln Bedroom. Ha. That's interesting, isn't it. And uh, you 77 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,680 Speaker 1: know the Lincoln Bedroom it was actually the war room 78 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: that President Lincoln used during the Civil War, where he 79 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: would sit there with his commanders and make all these 80 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: profound decisions about what to do. And so it's a 81 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: very well known haunted location. And uh, I think this 82 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: may be the ghost of Abraham Lincoln. If you have 83 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 1: not seen my video about this at lasts. Oh, I 84 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: don't know, like, I think it's fifteen or sixteen minutes 85 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: of that. Uh. Go to Joshua P. Warren dot com 86 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: and you'll see on the menu it says Gallery of 87 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: the Strange. And when you click that, there are a 88 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 1: bunch of different things that you can look at. One 89 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 1: of them says white House Ghost Photo. And if you 90 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: go there, you'll see the video as well as a 91 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: press release that I put out in two thousand and 92 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: fifteen about this. So I still believe this is the 93 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: world's most amazing ghost photo. And uh and in fact, 94 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: a little bit later, I'll tell you some more stories 95 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: about the haunted Lincoln Bedroom. I think my favorite is 96 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: the story about Winston Churchill staying there and every evening 97 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: Winston Churchill like to take a bath and uh, have 98 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: some cognac or brandy, you know, some kind and uh 99 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: and smoke a cigar. And so here he is having 100 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: his hot bath, his drink and his cigar. And he 101 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 1: gets out and as he's standing there, buck naked, he 102 00:06:55,760 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: turns and there is Abraham Lincoln sort of leaned up 103 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,159 Speaker 1: on the mantel looking at him, and Churchill stops and 104 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: I imagine he may have still had his cigar in 105 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: his mouth and said good evening was to President. It 106 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: appears you have me at a bit of a disadvantage, 107 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: to which Lincoln's ghost chuckled and vanished. But many people 108 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 1: have said that they have seen Lincoln's ghost in the 109 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: White House. But you know the thing that might surprise you, 110 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: And I told you this is about ghost of my surprise. 111 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: There are many ghosts that have been seen that I 112 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: bet you've never heard of. And there are even some 113 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,119 Speaker 1: ghost lee things from the White House that are even 114 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: more eerie. Have you ever heard of the thing? The 115 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: thing in the White House? Or how about the demon cat? 116 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna get into all that, and let 117 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: me just say that this is an overwhelming topic. I 118 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: am supposed to be on a television show about ghost 119 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: of the White House that is going to air on 120 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 1: a major network next month in October, and uh, it's 121 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: it's already been filmed. So I'm just you know, it's 122 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: supposed to come out, and as soon as everything is 123 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: confirmed with an air date, I'll let you know. So 124 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: I figure, you know, I just I just contacted the 125 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 1: White House again and ask for permission to go to 126 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 1: the Lincoln Bedroom, And for me, it doesn't This is 127 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: not a political thing. I don't care who's in office 128 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 1: or what the administration is doing. The White House has 129 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: been around a long time. I presume what's going to 130 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: be around a long time. Parties come, parties go. I'm 131 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: interested in the history. So we'll see, we'll see if 132 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: my request is granted. But let me go ahead and 133 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: tell you about some of my favorite ghost stories. And 134 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: I want to say right up front that, because this 135 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: subject is so vast, if you really want to dig 136 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: into this, there are some great books you should get. 137 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: One of them is Haunted White House by George Dudding, 138 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 1: which actually I bought this and I was flipping through 139 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: it and it's like, oh, there I am. I'm in 140 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: this book. I didn't even know it. That's cool when 141 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: that happens. Uh. He talks about my research on the 142 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: uh the photograph I was just mentioning. Also, my friend 143 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Balanger wrote a great book which is also available 144 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: as an audio book, called Who's Haunting the White House? 145 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: So those are two resources that I definitely recommend. But uh, 146 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: you know, let me just tell you first off, as 147 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I go down my my list here, Uh, you might 148 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: wonder if George Washington, our first president, is seen haunting 149 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: the White House. Well, you know, George Washington was in 150 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,480 Speaker 1: charge of choosing the design for the White House, but 151 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,599 Speaker 1: he did not live in it. It was not completed 152 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: while he was in office, and so the first president 153 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: to move in was John Adams. But here is something 154 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: really interesting about the fact that, you know, even though 155 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 1: George Washington is not usually seen haunting the White House, 156 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: and there are some stories to that effect, it seems 157 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: like that that land from the very beginning may have 158 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,199 Speaker 1: had a bit of a curse on it. And what 159 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean is that that land that the White House 160 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: sits on was owned by an old man named David 161 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: Burns and apparently he okay, so he owned about seven 162 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: acres and he did not want to sell that land 163 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: to the federal government. And the details are sketchy, but 164 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 1: he he got into some type of an argument about, 165 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 1: you know, handing that land over to such an extent 166 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: that it has recorded that George Washington used to refer 167 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: to David Burns as quote, the obstinate Mr Burns. The 168 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: obstinate Mr Burns. Okay, he was a stubborn guy and 169 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: the rumor is that there was some kind of coercion 170 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: that went on that forced him into selling that and 171 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: and so it's not surprising that a lot of people 172 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: afterwards said that they would actually see the ghost of 173 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: Mr Burns. One woman who was a housekeeper there for 174 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: thirty years said that the valets would often see Mr 175 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 1: Burne standing there and he would say, I'm Mr Burns, 176 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 1: I'm Mr Burns. It's like he wanted everybody to know 177 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: maybe that that was his land and he'd been screwed 178 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: out of it somehow. 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Coast to Coast a L dot com. 231 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 232 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast. I am Paranormal Podcast Network. I'm 233 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: your host, the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren. You know, 234 00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: construction began on the White House in the seventeen two 235 00:15:16,760 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: It was completed in eighteen hundred. During the War of 236 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:27,600 Speaker 1: eighteen twelve, the British came and burned it almost to 237 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: the ground, and so the whole thing was rebuilt. And 238 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: then of course it underwent that major renovation in the 239 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 1: early nineteen fifties by Truman, and so it's gone through 240 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: many transformations. And nonetheless that piece of property, well it 241 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: may already be cursed by Mr Burns. We know that 242 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: the White House was built in large part by slaves, 243 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: so think about the energy that added to the building. 244 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: And I really believe that the White House is certainly 245 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the most haunted house in the United States, and possibly 246 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: the most haunted in the world. Now, I know that 247 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: there are people listening to this show all around the world, 248 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: and some of you go, ah, there you go, You Americans. 249 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: You're so egocentric thinking your place is the most haunted 250 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: place in the world. Well, here in England we have 251 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: castles that go back thousands of years. That's true, and 252 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: I absolutely recognize that, and I've been to many of 253 00:16:30,560 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: these great castles. I've investigated the Tower of London and 254 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: all of the ruins of Dracula's castles in Romania. I understand. 255 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: But the thing is, some of the stuff that has 256 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: happened on the grounds of the White House is stuff 257 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: that is absolutely so intense, uh so dramatic that it 258 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: is unique and recorded human history, such as the decision 259 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: to develop and then drop the first atomic bombs. That 260 00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: was a new chapter for humankind. And that all stemmed 261 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: from the mindset there at the White House, which is 262 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: why I say it may be the most haunted piece 263 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: of property in the entire world. And if you wonder 264 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: why some of these presidents might stick around, we'll think 265 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: about the fact that I I know that to a 266 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,719 Speaker 1: certain extent, every president, just like every politician, is a puppet, 267 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: because you know, you have to please people, and you 268 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: have to consider who donated to you in payback favors. 269 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 1: I I get that, but still when it comes right 270 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 1: down to tough decisions that need to be made, you 271 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 1: have so many moments in history when presidents have made 272 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: decisions that altered everybody's life and and may have repercussions 273 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 1: that go on for generations. And I think that if 274 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: you have worked yourself into that point of decision making, 275 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 1: you might be very curious us to see if your 276 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: decision was good in the long run. So, for example, uh, 277 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: look at Abraham Lincoln. Uh, the guilt he must have 278 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: felt about all the blood he had on his hands from, 279 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: you know, killing so many Americans during the Civil War, 280 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: and he I'm sure I wondered, was this the right 281 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: decision to make? And so maybe he would be willing 282 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,640 Speaker 1: to stick around for a hundred or two hundred years 283 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: or whatever to kind of see how that turned out, 284 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: you know, did I make a good decision or not? 285 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,919 Speaker 1: Or then it always goes back to that concept of 286 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:46,359 Speaker 1: maybe you're afraid to move on to judgment. I've always 287 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: wondered if you're the governor of a state and the 288 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: state execute somebody, and as the governor, if you had 289 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: the power to pardon that person and didn't do it, 290 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: does that mean that you know you are guilty of 291 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: murdering that person as well. Uh, And whether you are 292 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: or not, if you are fearful of being judged, you 293 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: might want to delay that transition through the tunnel of light. Okay, 294 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: these are all things to consider it, all right, too 295 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: much to talk about. Let's get back to some of 296 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the ghost stories, all right. So I mentioned that the 297 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 1: first president to live in the White House was John Adams, 298 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: and one of the most prominent ghosts seen there is 299 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: the ghost of his wife, Abigail Adams. In fact, in 300 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: this book Haunted White House by George Dudding, he writes, 301 00:19:31,880 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: since the death of Abigail Adams in eighteen eighteen, numerous 302 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: Executive Mansion residents and staffers have claimed that they have 303 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: seen her likeness or ghost walking around the house wearing 304 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 1: a cap and lace shawl with her arms outstretched as 305 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 1: though she is carrying a laundry basket or an armload 306 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 1: of clean linen's. And uh, a lot of people have 307 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: seen her. Gosh, I can tell you a story after story, 308 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 1: but I find it also really intriguing. And it's isn't 309 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: it funny to think she's just doing something that mundane? 310 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: She must have been doing the laundry a lot. But 311 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 1: the youngest, the youngest first Lady was Francis Cleveland and 312 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: she was twenty one years old. And her story is 313 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 1: really interesting to me. Her husband was Grover Cleveland, and 314 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:30,679 Speaker 1: his first term was in Francis Cleveland was the first 315 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: woman to give birth at the White House. And apparently 316 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: she was in one of the second floor bedrooms. And 317 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: to this day, many many people are freaked out because 318 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: they start hearing screaming and moaning and all of these 319 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: terrible sounds of a woman giving birth up there, and 320 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: they run up there. And of course no x planation, 321 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: no explanation whatsoever. Um, and this may be some kind 322 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: of an imprint something, you know again, something very intense 323 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: that is trapped there that replays itself. And you know, 324 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: even though I'll tell you about you know, more encounters 325 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: people have had with these ghosts, seeing apparitions. Uh, it's 326 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: far more common for people to hear stuff. Is speaking 327 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: of Harry Truman. I mean, he even wrote more than 328 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: one letter to his wife and mentioned that, you know, 329 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,679 Speaker 1: he would wake up in the middle of the night 330 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: with something knocking on his door. And you know, when 331 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 1: you're the president and somebody's pounding on your door at 332 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: three in the morning, you you jump out of bed 333 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: because you think something terrible has happened. And then he 334 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: would open the door and nobody's around, and he asked 335 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: the Secret Service and they all say, no, there was 336 00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: nobody around. So people hear a lot of weird stuff there. 337 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: Let's see, how about Thomas Jefferson. Uh, of course, I'm 338 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 1: working a long way towards stories about Abraham Lincoln. But 339 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln's wife, Mary Todd, occasionally she would bring guests 340 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: over her lady friends, and they would be sitting around 341 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 1: in the White House and they would start hearing a 342 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 1: beautiful violin playing and and some somebody would say to her, oh, 343 00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: my goodness, where's the where's the musician? And she would say, oh, 344 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: that we don't have a musician. That's Mr Jefferson. He plays. 345 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: Sometimes Thomas Jefferson would beautifully play the violin in a 346 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: ghostly fashion in the White House. Andrew Jackson very fiery, 347 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: angry man. Uh. He is often heard, especially in one 348 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 1: particular bedroom of the White House, just screaming and cursing 349 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: up a storm. He was um, you know, they called 350 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: him o Hickory he's one of our most controversial presidents. 351 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: And you'll find his picture on the twenty dollar bill. Uh. 352 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 1: He was just h he's apparently he was just always 353 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: looking for a fight. You know. He was a great general, 354 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,320 Speaker 1: famous for the Battle of New Orleans. So whether it's 355 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 1: an imprint, it probably it's it probably is an imprint. 356 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: You know, he would get so riled up that you 357 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: can hear him screaming and cursing. One of the creepiest stories, though, 358 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: is that of Franklin Pierce. It's also a very tragic 359 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: and said, Franklin Pierce was the president of this country, 360 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: let's see, from eighteen fifty three to eighteen fifty seven, 361 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: and he was a lawyer who became quite popular and 362 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: worked his way up through politics. He had some time 363 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,119 Speaker 1: in the military, and he married a woman named Jane. 364 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,320 Speaker 1: And everybody said that the marriage seemed kind of weird 365 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: and sort of doomed from the beginning. They did not 366 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: seem like a good match. Their families had different politics, 367 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: so nobody's sure why that those two hooked up. I 368 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 1: think she had a lot of money, so I'm sure 369 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: that helped. But anyway, um, they had three sons total, 370 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: and all three of them died in childhood. Their third son, though, 371 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: his story is the one that's most outstanding when it 372 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: comes to White House ghosts. Franklin Pierce was okay. He 373 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 1: was elected president, and during that period of time between 374 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: the election and the inauguration, he and his wife and 375 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: they're eleven year old son, who was named Benjamin, We're 376 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: on a train ride and the train, uh, it went 377 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: off the rails. There was a horrible accident, and everybody 378 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:00,320 Speaker 1: survived except for there are eleven year olds on and 379 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: from what I understand, they basically saw their son get 380 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: like beheaded or whatever, you know, like his head was 381 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: crushed in right in front of them. And it was 382 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 1: such a shocking, horrifying, terrible experience that it was impossible 383 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,439 Speaker 1: for them to feel optimistic about his presidency. Um. And 384 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: so his presidency was just dark from the beginning. And 385 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,439 Speaker 1: he already had problems with alcoholism, and they said that 386 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: it really got really bad, uh once that happened and 387 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: then he became president. I mean they like he would 388 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: sit down at one time and drink a whole case 389 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: of of wine, you know, basically, uh, and so uh 390 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: he was he was a distant, dark figure and his 391 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 1: presidency is considered one of the worst. Uh. He didn't 392 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:59,399 Speaker 1: want to support any particular party. He was very ambiguous, 393 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: trying to appease the the pro slavery people and the 394 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: abolitionists and it's just real wishy washy in bed. But 395 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 1: you know what, his wife reminds me a lot of 396 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: what Mary Todd Lincoln would end up like, because his 397 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: wife became obsessed with contacting the spirit of their dead 398 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,120 Speaker 1: son Benjamin. When we come back, I'll tell you more 399 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 1: about that and what she might have done that opened 400 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 1: some kind of a portal that left all kinds of 401 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 1: stuff in I'm Joshua P. Warren. 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Learn more at healthy looking dot com. 422 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the I Heart Radio 423 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast Damn baron Normal Podcast Network. I'm 424 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: your host, Joshua pe Warren and this isn't the show 425 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: where the unusual becomes usual. I mentioned on September two 426 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: thousand twenty one, I will be on stage with George 427 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: s Nori and Everett Washington. If you want to see 428 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're tickets left or not, but 429 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: if you want to see about the event, go to 430 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: Joshua Pete Warren dot com and you will currently find 431 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: a link at the top of the home page. Also, 432 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: while you were there, here is a picture you'll want 433 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: to take a look at. Possibly. I mentioned that George 434 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: Washington is not usually seen haunting the White House. I mean, 435 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: there are some reports, but he is often reported at 436 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: this tavern he used to frequent in Annapolis, Maryland. It's 437 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: called the Middleton Tavern. And on December six of two 438 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, a woman named Lisa Moulden took a 439 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: photograph in that tavern. The shows what very well could 440 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: be the spirit of George Washington, all six ft two 441 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 1: of him. And if you want to see that picture 442 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: and some analysis. Also, while you're there at Joshua pe 443 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: Warren dot com, as I mentioned before, go to the 444 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 1: menu heading there that says Gallery of the Strange, and 445 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 1: you'll see a link there to what could be George 446 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: Washington's ghost and check that out. Getting back to Franklin Pierce, 447 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: his tragic story, his wife became so uh absolutely grief 448 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:11,560 Speaker 1: stricken that she was desperately trying to do anything she 449 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: could to bring the spirit of her dead eleven year 450 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 1: old son back. And I don't think that she just 451 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: wanted him back in spirit. I get the feeling based 452 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280 Speaker 1: upon many letters that she wrote that she thought that 453 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 1: there might be a way to literally resurrect him. And 454 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: long story short, which should be the subtitle of this 455 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: whole podcast. Uh. She claims in one of these letters 456 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: that she wrote to a friend that she had succeeded 457 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: and that sometimes her son Benjamin would return and the 458 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: and and comfort her. You know that they would physically 459 00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: interact with each other, and we don't. I mean, she 460 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: meant it very literally. I don't think that she meant 461 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: it in some kind of a spiritual or figurative way 462 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: at all. I mean, so during that period of time, 463 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: we're not sure what she was up to, but she 464 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: was doing everything she could to open a portal of 465 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: some kind to create this invitation. And think about this, 466 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: when when you open a portal and you're desperate, you 467 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know what you're going to have come through. Okay, 468 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: if you walk through a neighborhood and you're quiet, maybe 469 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 1: you won't attract any attention. But if you walk through 470 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: that neighborhood and you've got some dog food and you 471 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 1: start whistling, then you don't know what you're going to attract. 472 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: It might be the cute little chihuahua, or it might 473 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: be the big, vicious rottweiler. You don't know what you're 474 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: gonna get necessarily, And uh, that's the problem with opening portals. 475 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 1: And most people who open a portal, they don't know 476 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: how to close it. And you can mentally do that. 477 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: But what I find also sad and intriguing is that 478 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:07,720 Speaker 1: her story seems to resonate, uh, not too long after 479 00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: you know, maybe I don't know, like ten years later 480 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,000 Speaker 1: or something like that, resonate with what happened to the 481 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: Lincoln's Because when Abraham Lincoln and his wife Mary Todd 482 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: lived in the White House, they had an eleven year 483 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: old son, same age named Willie that they were just 484 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: infatuated with. He had tons of chrisma, they said, and 485 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: he lived there for about a year. And then Willie 486 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 1: died of typhoid fever, and the same kind of thing happened. 487 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: So Mary Todd she decided that she was going to 488 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 1: try to bring his spirit back, and same exact deal 489 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: she claimed that she did, and sometimes that he would 490 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: appear at the foot of her bed, and so on 491 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: and so forth, and so she had all kinds of 492 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: mediums come in and held all kinds of seances. And 493 00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln may or may not have believed even this 494 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing. Sometimes he said he did, and sometimes 495 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,440 Speaker 1: he said he didn't, So it just sort of dependent. 496 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: But he certainly tolerated what was going on if he 497 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: felt it helped his wife. And he did participate in 498 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: some of these seances. And Lincoln clearly had a sense 499 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: that something, some kind of doom awaited him. There was 500 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: one weird experience he had where he told Mary Todd 501 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: that he was looking at himself in the mirror, and 502 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he saw what looked like the 503 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: ghost of himself looking at himself. Okay, that's pretty bizarre. 504 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: But most notably, three days before he was assassinated, he 505 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: he had a dream, a striking dream, And he told 506 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: a friend that he dreamed that he woke up and 507 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: he heard all these people wailing and mourning and crying 508 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,160 Speaker 1: in the White House. And he walked outside and he 509 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: couldn't find anybody. And he made his way down to like, 510 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: you know, the big main area, and all these people 511 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 1: are are crying around this this casket, and he says 512 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: to a guard, what's what's happened? Who's died? And the 513 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: guard looks him and says, well, don't you know the president? 514 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: And then he wakes up. That was three days before 515 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 1: he died. And uh. Every night when Lincoln would leave 516 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:20,160 Speaker 1: the White House, he told a guard good night. That 517 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: was his thing, just good night. But the night he 518 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: left to go to Ford's Theater, he didn't say good night. 519 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: He said goodbye, and the guard said that's the only 520 00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: time Lincoln had ever said goodbye. And then he walks 521 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: off to Ford's theater. Uh, and he gets killed that night. 522 00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: So um, look, so many ghost stories are are surrounding Lincoln. 523 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you could write a whole book just about that. 524 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: And again I recommend that you read you read a 525 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 1: book about this stuff if you're into it. But the 526 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: point is there have been efforts to open up some 527 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: kind of of a portal, right, and it could be 528 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: that something came through that wasn't necessarily one of the kids. 529 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Hence what we have at the White House, something called 530 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 1: the Thing. The Thing. This is a big secret. People 531 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: don't talk about this much. The Thing is this dark 532 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,400 Speaker 1: form that appears in certain parts of the White House 533 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: and it's usually kind of nebulous. But usually people, especially 534 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: the staff of the White House, say that they're working 535 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: on something and all of a sudden they feel this 536 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,080 Speaker 1: sense that something is behind them looking over their shoulder, 537 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 1: and they turn and then they see this black, terrible 538 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: form and it just you just turn and run, you know, 539 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 1: you boat when you see this thing. And it became 540 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 1: especially prominent. However, when William Howard Taft was the president, 541 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: and he was president from nineteen o nine to nineteen thirteen, 542 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 1: some people believe that the thing was something that he 543 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: brought into the White House. And that's because the Taft 544 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: was he went to Yale University and he was a 545 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: member of the secret society called Skull and Bones, and 546 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: they have all kinds of morbid rituals. It has been 547 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: said that members have been asked to rob graves and 548 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: do all kinds of spooky stuff, and and they have 549 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 1: ceremonies and rituals that nobody, you know, nobody knows about. 550 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: That's all secret. And a lot of very prominent people 551 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: have been a member of Skull and Bones, and so 552 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 1: some believe that he may have brought the thing into 553 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,120 Speaker 1: the White House based upon something that he did with 554 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 1: skull and bones. And and that may be because that 555 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:54,800 Speaker 1: he was the most adamant person about not disgusting this. 556 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: He may he put this order down, like if anybody 557 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: talks about the thing anymore, they're gonna get fired. But 558 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: he privately hired some people to look into the thing 559 00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: and give him reports on it. In fact, he hired 560 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: a man, Lieutenant Archibald but who was a distinguished military man, 561 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,840 Speaker 1: to do reports on the thing for him. And uh, 562 00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 1: not too long after that, but actually died on the Titanic. 563 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: So you know, these stories go on and on. So 564 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: we don't know if the thing was something that Tapp 565 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,400 Speaker 1: brought in or something that that came in through a 566 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: portal that Jane Pierce or Mary Todd Lincoln open. But 567 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:50,760 Speaker 1: then we have the demon cat. The demon cat. Okay, 568 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,239 Speaker 1: this is a cat, a black cat that haunts the 569 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: basement of the White House. And uh in this book 570 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: Haunted White House, the author says it's not clear if 571 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 1: basement is referred to as the ground floor, which is 572 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,239 Speaker 1: below the first floor, or in a basement level that 573 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:13,239 Speaker 1: exists below. Okay, So anyway, the deal is this cat 574 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: is seeing around this area where they store a framework 575 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:24,560 Speaker 1: that held Lincoln's casket. It's called a catafalque. And the 576 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: gist of it is the security guards will be walking 577 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 1: around and they'll see this black cat and then all 578 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the cat will morph into something the 579 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:45,240 Speaker 1: size of a panther or bigger, and you know, start 580 00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: screeching or roaring or whatever, and these guards turn and 581 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: high tail it out of there. Who wouldn't, right, And 582 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: in the beginning people said, well, you know, they used 583 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: to throw cats in the basement to get the rats out, 584 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,919 Speaker 1: so maybe this is uh uh, this is the ghost 585 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 1: to one of those cats. But nobody can explain why 586 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: this thing turns into this monstrous, terrifying thing. And it 587 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,799 Speaker 1: it's it's sort of like a harbinger though, because they 588 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 1: say that it appears just before something bad happens. It 589 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: appeared the night before Abraham Lincoln was assassinated. It was 590 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: seen just before the stock market crash of nineteen nine. 591 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: It was seen just before the United States dropped the 592 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: atomic bombs on Japan and World War two. And it 593 00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: was seen in nineteen sixty three just before John F. 594 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:39,480 Speaker 1: Kennedy was assassinated, and Kennedy also had you know, premonitions 595 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: of his assassination. There's a lot of psychic activity that 596 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: surrounds the White House. When we come back, I'll tell 597 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: you about some stuff that's a little more modern, uh, 598 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan, George W. Bush. Oh, and then I've got 599 00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,880 Speaker 1: a couple of great emails. 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Enjoy your search have 617 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: some fun at paranormal date dot com. Welcome back to 618 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: the final segment of this edition of Strange Things on 619 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,680 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast. I am 620 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. I am your host Joshua pe Warren. 621 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: And in two thousand eighteen, George W. Bush's daughter Jenna 622 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:27,359 Speaker 1: went on National TV and talked about experiencing ghosts while 623 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 1: she was living in the White House. She said, quote, 624 00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: it woke us up in the middle of the night. 625 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: We had a fireplace in our room, and all of 626 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,720 Speaker 1: a sudden, we started a hearing like nineteen twenties piano 627 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:47,399 Speaker 1: music as clear as day, nineteen twenties piano music as 628 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: clear as day coming out of the fireplace. She said. 629 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 1: She was so scared she jumped into her sister's bed. 630 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,200 Speaker 1: She said, quote the next week we heard the same thing, 631 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: but opera end quote. That's not the only time. But 632 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: some of the more interesting ghost stories that are a 633 00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: little more recent have come from people like well Ronald Reagan, now. Granted, 634 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,879 Speaker 1: even Hillary Clinton had said that she uh felt that 635 00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: the White House was full of spirits. But you know 636 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: who knows how literally she meant that. But Ronald Reagan, uh, 637 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:25,240 Speaker 1: he's he a number of times talked about some weird 638 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: stuff there. As a matter of fact, there is a 639 00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: woman named Joan Gauge who wrote an article in the 640 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:34,480 Speaker 1: Huffington Post about her experience talking to the President in 641 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: ninet six. She was in the White House and she 642 00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:41,360 Speaker 1: first wrote about this in Ladies Home Journal. So the President, 643 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 1: President Ronald Reagan said to her, um, Rex, this is 644 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:54,279 Speaker 1: this is his dog. Okay, Rex, the king Charles Cavalier spaniel, 645 00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: who had recently replaced Lucky as the first dog had ice, 646 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: barked frantically in the Lincoln bedroom and then backed out 647 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,920 Speaker 1: and refused to set foot over the threshold. And another evening, 648 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,280 Speaker 1: while the Reagans were watching TV in their room, Rex 649 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,839 Speaker 1: stood up on his hind legs, pointed his nose at 650 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:22,120 Speaker 1: the ceiling, and began barking at something invisible overhead. To 651 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: their amazement, the dog walked around the room barking at 652 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: the ceiling. Quote. I started thinking about it, the President continued, 653 00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: and I began to wonder if the dog was responding 654 00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: to an electric signal to high pitch for human ears, 655 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: perhaps beamed toward the White House by a foreign embassy. 656 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: I asked my staff to look into it. In quote, 657 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: then the President laughed and he said, quote, I might 658 00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,439 Speaker 1: as well tell you the rest. A member of our 659 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,360 Speaker 1: family and he met his daughter, Maureen and her husband 660 00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: all always stay in the Lincoln bedroom when they visit 661 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: the White House, and some time ago her husband woke 662 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,960 Speaker 1: up and saw a transparent figure standing at the bedroom 663 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 1: window looking out. Then it turned and disappeared. His wife 664 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: teased him mercilessly about it for about a month. And 665 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,879 Speaker 1: then they were here recently and she woke up one 666 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,240 Speaker 1: morning and saw the same figure standing at the window 667 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: looking out. She could see the trees right through it. 668 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: Again it turned and disappeared. End quote. So he commented 669 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,960 Speaker 1: a number of times about this sort of thing, So 670 00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: I could I could go on and on and on 671 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 1: with these White House ghost stories, but I think you 672 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: get the idea. And what do you think do you 673 00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,360 Speaker 1: think they're ever going to let me go into the 674 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,720 Speaker 1: Lincoln bedroom. You know, I've been into the White House 675 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 1: thanks to some friends I have in politics in North Carolina. 676 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: I was able to take a nice were of the 677 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: White House, had a wonderful, beautiful time. But getting into 678 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,120 Speaker 1: the Lincoln Bedroom just for you know, an hour with 679 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,680 Speaker 1: a handful of simple scientific tools to do a little 680 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: paranormal investigation that would be historic, and nobody has been 681 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,040 Speaker 1: allowed to do it. So maybe somebody listening to this 682 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: podcast will help make that happen. Wouldn't that be great 683 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,960 Speaker 1: if I'm able to come on here and say surprise, Halloween, 684 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 1: surprise for all of you on speaking of strengths, And 685 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry strange things, speaking of strangers the show I 686 00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:42,279 Speaker 1: used to do, but it's all just strange stuff. Okay, 687 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,480 Speaker 1: let's go to some great emails, shall we. I hope 688 00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,960 Speaker 1: you enjoyed those spooky stories, and I will keep you 689 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 1: updated on this TV program that is supposed to be 690 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: coming out soon. Uh. First email I have comes from 691 00:46:56,520 --> 00:47:01,520 Speaker 1: Kimberly in Texas and she said, I have been listening 692 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 1: to your show and want to share some good news 693 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,800 Speaker 1: that I attribute to listening to all the wonderful things 694 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: you share on your show, as well as the good 695 00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,880 Speaker 1: fortune tone. And this is a lengthy email, so I 696 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 1: won't read the whole thing, but she talks about a 697 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 1: lot of good things that started happening. She said she 698 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: had some trouble in her life and things started turning 699 00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: around dramatically. But she ends it by saying, now for 700 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: the biggest change in miracle. I had been working for 701 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,399 Speaker 1: the same company for more than twelve years. I am 702 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: in I T and have been doing what I do 703 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,480 Speaker 1: for over twenty two years. Out of the blue, I 704 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 1: got a call from a headhunter about another job and 705 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,920 Speaker 1: they asked if I was interested. I wasn't really actively looking, 706 00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: but I asked about the job and what it entailed, 707 00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: and it was everything that I was already doing, plus 708 00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: I would get to learn some new things. I asked 709 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,680 Speaker 1: about the pay, and it was an incredible amount. I 710 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: got two more calls about the same job to say 711 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,720 Speaker 1: day from different head hunters. That was three calls about 712 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:05,719 Speaker 1: this one job and one day into me. That was 713 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: a big sign saying hey, it's time to make a change. 714 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,560 Speaker 1: The first guy called me back and asked if I 715 00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,920 Speaker 1: wanted to go ahead and apply. I said yes. I 716 00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 1: interviewed that Friday and was called the next week, and 717 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,879 Speaker 1: the wonderful news is that I got the job. That 718 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:26,840 Speaker 1: pays fifty three thousand dollars more than what I was making. 719 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to repeat that, fifty three thousand dollars more 720 00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 1: than what she was making. She said before the interview. 721 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,680 Speaker 1: I listened to the long version of your good luck tone. 722 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,720 Speaker 1: I was a bit sad to leave my old company, 723 00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:44,560 Speaker 1: but my boss at the time was incredibly happy for me, 724 00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:48,160 Speaker 1: and I was able to leave on great terms. After 725 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,840 Speaker 1: working at the new place since mid July, not only 726 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,279 Speaker 1: was I able to get some bills caught up, but 727 00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,880 Speaker 1: some of them paid completely off, help my kids with 728 00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: their car issues, and put money away in savings. I'm 729 00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: so eternally grateful and blessed my messages. Don't give up, 730 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: keep praying, keep meditating, listen to your good luck tone, 731 00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: and always give thanks for the things that you do have, 732 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,719 Speaker 1: even if it's something small like being able to take 733 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:18,319 Speaker 1: a quiet walk, or that one of my kids says 734 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: something nice for gives me a hug out of the blue. 735 00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,560 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for your show and your 736 00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:27,360 Speaker 1: positive attitude. Thank you, Thank you again. That's from Kimberly 737 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:33,040 Speaker 1: in Texas. Kimberly, congratulations and thank you for that wonderful email. 738 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 1: And you know what when she says the long version 739 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: of the good Fortune Tone, here's what she's talking about. 740 00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: If you go to Joshua Pee Warren dot com and 741 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,719 Speaker 1: you sign up for my free e newsletter, you get 742 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,480 Speaker 1: a link to something that that's called a five minute 743 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,600 Speaker 1: money Miracle, and there is a long version of the 744 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,760 Speaker 1: good Fortune Tone, and you can listen to that. However, 745 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, whenever you want to again. It's all free, 746 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: there's no catch Joshua Pee Warren dot com And of 747 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: course I'll will be playing ing the basic good Fortune 748 00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,440 Speaker 1: tone for you in just a few minutes. Let me 749 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:08,480 Speaker 1: squeeze in one more testimonial that comes from Paul and Arizona. 750 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,799 Speaker 1: He is writing about the bad buster that I have 751 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 1: in my curiosity shop on my website. He says, at last, 752 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: someone has created a self improvement tool for us negative folks. Folks, 753 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 1: you don't just focus on what you want. You don't 754 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: imagine yourself surrounded by healing vortex energy, and you don't 755 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 1: have to call upon Jesus or your higher self positive 756 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 1: thinking affirmations forget all of that. All you do is 757 00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: write on a small piece of paper and as few 758 00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,280 Speaker 1: words as possible. Something in your life that you don't want, 759 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:44,720 Speaker 1: some problem you're having, and place it in the small 760 00:50:44,760 --> 00:50:47,640 Speaker 1: glass tube which rests on a coin, and that's it. 761 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,120 Speaker 1: I started with a big health issue about four months 762 00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 1: after my cataract operations. I awoke one morning to find 763 00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: that I had a massive number of floaters, including one 764 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,800 Speaker 1: large and ugly pat match that looked like frog eggs 765 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,359 Speaker 1: or the smoke from a dirty candle. I could also 766 00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: feel something loose in the left eye. I thought, oh, 767 00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: more expensive operations. So I began writing quote my floaters 768 00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:17,719 Speaker 1: on a little piece of paper and placed it in 769 00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: the tube, which has a lining of invisibility cloaking material 770 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: seriously and a small piece of turmaline. Within days I 771 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: noticed a major difference, and now a month later I'd 772 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 1: say they are ninety five percent gone. I had previously 773 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 1: spent more than ten thousand dollars over half a decade 774 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 1: trying to heal my eyes on my own with little 775 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 1: to no success. This, on the other hand, was only 776 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,880 Speaker 1: one dollars and began working immediately. Warren has made a 777 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,400 Speaker 1: small batch of these. If you want one, you better 778 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: move fast. Paul, You know what, I never make any 779 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,360 Speaker 1: medical claims whatsoever with anything that I do. I'm not 780 00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,800 Speaker 1: a doctor, but I am so happy that you shared 781 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 1: that experience, and um, you know, it's a real testimonial. 782 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:10,000 Speaker 1: So if that can help other people, I hope it does, 783 00:52:10,080 --> 00:52:13,440 Speaker 1: so God bless you and God bless everybody else. Thank 784 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: you for that, Paul, And now it's time for all 785 00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:19,560 Speaker 1: of us to meditate. Close your eyes, take a deep breath. 786 00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,480 Speaker 1: I'm about to play the good Fortune tone for you. 787 00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: Absorb this, and let's make your next week the best 788 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: week ever. Here we go. That's it for this edition 789 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,080 Speaker 1: of the show. Follow me on Twitter at Joshua pe Warren, 790 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 1: Plus visit Joshua pe Warren dot com to sign up 791 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: for my free e newsletter to receive a free instant gift, 792 00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: and check out the cool Stuff and the Curiosity Shop 793 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:12,279 Speaker 1: all at Joshua P. Warren dot com. I have a 794 00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,040 Speaker 1: fun one lined up for you next time, I promise, 795 00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,719 Speaker 1: So please tell all your friends to subscribe to this 796 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,840 Speaker 1: show and who always remember the Golden rule. Thank you 797 00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: for listening, thank you for your interest in support, thank 798 00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:31,720 Speaker 1: you for staying curious, and I we'll talk to you 799 00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: again soon. 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