1 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: Good evening, America, Happy Monday, and welcome to the latest 2 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: edition of Justin News, No Noise. I'm your host, John Solomon, 3 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: reporting to you from the nation's capital, where there is 4 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: movement towards ending the forty one day government shut down. 5 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 2: We're going to get to that in the second. 6 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're inching, crawling towards a solution, but we're not 7 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: quite there yet. Now, quick programming note before I get 8 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: to headlines, and our first guest, Amanda head she's over 9 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: at the White House today as the pool reporter, so 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: she's not going to be able to get here on time. 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to take you solo for 12 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: the next hour. You'll be in good hen and so 13 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: hopefully We've got a lot of good guests coming up, 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: including Congressman mary Nette Miller Meeks, who we hope to 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: get on here in a few seconds. She'll tell us 16 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the very latest of what's going on. Here's what happened 17 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: over the weekend. President Trump kept enormous pressure on Democrats. 18 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: That pressure began to work, eight to ten Democrats deciding 19 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: last night they would bolt from their party and support 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: an effort to reopen the government on the same terms 21 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: that government was supposed to be opened up forty one 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: days ago, and that is a clean sar. 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:20,119 Speaker 2: All the other. 24 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 1: Stuff gets resolved outside of the shutdown. Eight Democrats voted 25 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: in the test vote yesterday. We're waiting for a new 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: vote today, but thus far that hasn't happened. We're waiting 27 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: to see what Senator rand Paul, who's blocking some of 28 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: the activity, saying what others are going to do. But 29 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: there are signs that sometime in the next week or 30 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: two this shutdown will be ended. 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 2: Now. 32 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the President is focusing on a key component of 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: the shutdown. What is that It is the fact that 34 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are holding out for a singular reason. That is, 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: they want to get tens of billions of dollars a 36 00:01:56,440 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: year in more subsidies for America's health care insurance companies. 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:04,120 Speaker 2: That's right, not the American people, the insurers. Why. 38 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 1: Because Obamacare could never pay for itself, and as the 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,360 Speaker 1: premium rates rise, the Democrats can begin shoveling money directly 40 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: to the insurance companies to artificially keep them down. And 41 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: President Trump has gotten wise to this, and he's been 42 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: making some strong overtures to the American people. 43 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: I can make this more affordable. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: How about we give that money not to the insurance companies, 45 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: but to you and let you decide how you spend 46 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: it on your healthcare. That's one idea he put on 47 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: the table over the weekend. Also on the issue of affordability, 48 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,119 Speaker 1: he put on the table another idea. He understands Gen 49 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: Z Americans, the newest generation of Americans, don't have an 50 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: easy pathway to buying a home because affordability of homes 51 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: is been going down. Rates are going up, interest rates, 52 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: and over the last decade, ass have prices and that's 53 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: made that American dream out of reach for a lot 54 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: of people. But President Trump had an idea this weekend. 55 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: How about we stretch mortgages from thirty years to fifty years. 56 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 2: Stretch the payment out, and we'll have. 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: A little bit more time to maybe get that of 58 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: payments down, more time to pay back that that's an 59 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 1: important idea affordability. I think you'll hear the President, according 60 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: to my reporting today and tomorrow, talk a lot more 61 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 1: about waging a war on affordability. While he's made great 62 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: strides getting the price of eggs and gas and prescription 63 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: drugs down, among other things, he wants to make it 64 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 1: clear that he's trying to take care of other things 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,399 Speaker 1: that particularly affect young people, like health insurance and market rates, 66 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: so we'll keep. 67 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 2: A close eye on that. 68 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, the President today issued a new round of pardons. 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: This aimed at a group of supporters who can tested 70 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty election raised election issues and in some 71 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: cases agreed to serve as alternate electors in states like 72 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: Wisconsin or Pennsylvania. Well, in past history, the action of 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: becoming an alternate elector was never criminally prosecuted, but in 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, several states, not the federal government, 75 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: but states have secuted folks like former Wisconsin judge Jim Troopis, 76 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: who will have on the show in a little bit. So, 77 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: why would the president issue a federal pardon power to 78 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: people who are facing criminal charges in the state. The 79 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: federal pardon doesn't go down to state charges. Here's the answer. 80 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: The pardon signifies to the courts that this is a 81 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: federal supremacy issued, meaning it isn't the states to decide 82 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 1: whether it can be prosecuted. 83 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 2: It is a federal election. 84 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:34,359 Speaker 1: The submission of federal electors is a federal act or 85 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 1: an act to a federal body, and therefore these pardons 86 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 1: could open the door for lots of former Trump people 87 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: facing prosecutions at Arizona or Wisconsin or Georgia and other 88 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: places to argue that the state has no authority. So 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: this is a strategic move, not specifically protecting people from prosecution, 90 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: but making it more difficult for those state prosecutors to 91 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: take on these Trump supporters for their action of addressing 92 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 1: green to their government. All right, we've got a lot 93 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: of other headlines going on today on the issue of healthcare. 94 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: Just quickly, I want you to take a look at 95 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 1: Justin News. 96 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 2: In the morning. 97 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: My extraordinary colleague Stephen Richards will tell you the whole 98 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: story of how insurance companies have become so addicted and 99 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: a reliant upon those Obamacare subsidies. Without them, they would 100 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: not nearly have been as profitable the last decades. You're 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: going to see profits of insurance companies look kind a 102 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: plane taking out of an airport. Thse go straight up 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: over the last decade as the subsidies came in. We're 104 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: going to tell you how that happened, why Democrats are 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:36,280 Speaker 1: now fretting that those subsidies could end and what did 106 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: the executives of those companies do as they got richer 107 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: and their earnings went up. I'll give you a little secret. 108 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: They were giving more and more Democratic candidates. 109 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 2: How about that. You scratch my back, I'll scratch your wallet. 110 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: That's the story we'll have tomorrow morning, the dirty secret 111 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: of Obamacare and this government shutdown. 112 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 2: All right? 113 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: With that, I want to turn to our first guest. 114 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: She knows everything about this debate. Not only she a doctor, 115 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: she is on the front lines of the in Congress 116 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: Iowa Congresswoman Marionette Miller Meeks. Congress women, great to have 117 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: you on the show. 118 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 3: Well, thank you so much for having me, John. It's 119 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 3: great to be with you, especially as an Army veteran 120 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: the day before Veterans Day, So happy veteran stage to 121 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: all of our veterans out there, and thank them for 122 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: their service and their sacrifice. 123 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: And to you as well for having served our country 124 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: so bravely and gratefully. We're really grateful as a country 125 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,719 Speaker 1: for everyone who has served in the uniform. Absolutely, Malchison, 126 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: I want to ask you where we are in this shutdown. 127 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: Are we going to move towards the resolution you think 128 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: or is it going to get gummed up with more 129 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: Washington goblygook. 130 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: Well, as we know, nothing is as dysfunctional as Washington, 131 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 3: d C. 132 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 4: And the swamp. 133 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 3: But nonetheless, I think that what we've seen happen is 134 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 3: people noticing how government is affecting them, whether it's flight 135 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 3: delays with air traffic control, and I can tell you 136 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 3: the past two weeks flying, we flat out had pilots 137 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 3: saying to us that we had ground stops in the 138 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 3: other airports. So we just got here. We've been here 139 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: all day, and it's air traffic control. And so when 140 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: you have people working without pay, whether it's our military, 141 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 3: air traffic control, customs and border protection, correctional officers, and 142 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 3: federal prisons, they're working tough jobs, stressful jobs, sometimes life 143 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: threatening jobs, doing it without pay, not knowing if their 144 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 3: families are going to be taken care of. These are 145 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 3: real life consequences to individuals. And then with the snap 146 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 3: benefits coming up to where they were not reauthorized because 147 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 3: we have not funded fiscal year twenty twenty six. You 148 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: know that we voted to fund the government on September nineteenth. 149 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 3: It went over to the Senate. You need sixty votes 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 3: in the Senate and the Democrats, with the exception of 151 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: three of them. The Democrats refused and why because Chuck 152 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: Schumer is afraid of a bartender AOC and because they 153 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: wanted leverage and they were using the American people as leverage, 154 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: and because they wanted to energize their base, which they 155 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: saw at their big rallies in October. And then you know, lastly, 156 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 3: it's like they couldn't do anything to affect their brand. Well, 157 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 3: as you know, despite disappointment among people in my district, 158 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 3: especially in my party, I voted to fund the government 159 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 3: and I voted for continuing resolutions, clean continuing resolutions because 160 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: it's our responsibility, it is our duty, and I'm going 161 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 3: to support our military and I'm going to have their 162 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: backs every day from Friday. And so I think what 163 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: we've seen is that as things ratcheted up, as more 164 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 3: people were suffering, we had eight very courageous Democrats tell 165 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: Senator Schumer where to put it, and they crossed the island. 166 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:49,680 Speaker 4: Voted to. 167 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 3: Move a vote forward, to move yes on invoking cloture 168 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: so that this could come up for a vote, and 169 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 3: there was a compromise, but as you know, there was 170 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: negotiations before the House put forward it's clean continuing resolution. 171 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, there was just. 172 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: No interest in negotiation on the other side until just 173 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: the last few days. 174 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 2: It's it's really remarkable. 175 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: I think this of all the issues that I've covered, 176 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: all the shutdowns I've covered in the thirty five years 177 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: i've been here, this is the closest to a single 178 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: issue shutdown I've ever seen. It's really about these healthcare subsidies, 179 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: and the more that we learn about them, the more 180 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: that we learned that they go to the insurers, not 181 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,680 Speaker 1: to the American people. The insurers keep it even if 182 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: the consumer doesn't use the policy plan. This looks like 183 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: a form of corporate welfare, and the Democrats are simply 184 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: just fighting for some large cash constituents which Democrats and 185 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: I'm seeing the insurance company executives have become for them. 186 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Is this a form of corporate welfare? Ultimately, the way 187 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: the bombing care substies are currently. 188 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 3: Structured, As you know, I've been on your show in October, 189 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 3: I have said this repeatedly. I said this when we 190 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: were in watching DC in September before the shutdown occurred, 191 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 3: and that is that these enhanced premium tax credits were 192 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 3: put in place in twenty twenty one by President Biden 193 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 3: to mass the fact that premiums were going up for 194 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: individuals who weren't already on the Unaffordable Care Act or 195 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 3: the UNACA premium tax credits, so that group was never 196 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 3: affected by the Continuing Resolution. We made no cuts in 197 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: the Continuing Resolution to any health insurance or any healthcare. 198 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 3: They were not talking about this. I'm won the Energy 199 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 3: and Commerce Committee. This was not a topic of conversation. 200 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 3: As you know, we were doing the reconciliation bill, and 201 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 3: all the talk was about medicaid and the lives they 202 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: spewed about medicaid, and then it was about dog and 203 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 3: it was about immigration. This never even came up until September, 204 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 3: where it was looking at these enhanced premium tax credits, 205 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: which remember the Democrats voted for them on top of 206 00:10:55,800 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: the regular ACA tax credits they voted on in twenty 207 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,600 Speaker 3: twenty one. Then they stuck them in the IRA, the 208 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 3: Non Inflation Reducing Act, and all of these votes were 209 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: all Democrat votes. They never had any negotiation or consideration 210 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: for Republicans at all, and they're the ones that had 211 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 3: them expire, all to hide the fact that insurance rates 212 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 3: could potentially go up or we're going up, and all 213 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 3: of us agree, we want healthcare costs to come down. 214 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: We are working to bring healthcare costs down. We put 215 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,719 Speaker 3: provisions in the Working Families Tax Cut to do so. 216 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: But these subsidies don't go to the individual. So unlike 217 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 3: Medicare Part D, where the money went to the person 218 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: to purchase their drugs, then that led to four dollar 219 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 3: generic drugs, these subsidies go directly to the insurance company. 220 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: And the same is true in Medicaid. Why that states 221 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 3: have to enforce eligibility. It's also why my Medicaid Improvement acts, 222 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: so we're not paying one or more states for phantom 223 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 3: people on their enrollment, which those premiums payments go directly 224 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: to the insurance company. So it is a form of corruption. 225 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 3: It is a form of corporate welfare to very profitable 226 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 3: insurance companies, and it has to stop. More importantly, it 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: doesn't bring healthcare costs down. 228 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:16,040 Speaker 4: It may make it. 229 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 3: More affordable for one person, but it doesn't have any 230 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 3: incentive for the insurance companies to bring down healthcare costs. 231 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 3: So all you're doing is a you know, a dog 232 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 3: chasing its own tail is that you're continuing ratching up 233 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 3: premiums because the insurance companies are getting directly subsidized by 234 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 3: the taxpayers. So you can have one person working. So 235 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: I pay my own health insurance. It's about one thousand 236 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 3: dollars a month. They just sent me the notice that 237 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: it's time to go back to the exchange and see 238 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 3: what my rates are. And so you know individuals who 239 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: are working who are paying their own insurance that aren't 240 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 3: on the enhanced premium tax cuts. They're covering and paying 241 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: for these people. And then furthermore, I think it's an 242 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 3: interesting side that remember Sibilius was in charge of the 243 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 3: CMS when the Unaffordable Care Act was implemented. She was 244 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 3: the president of a Hip America's health insurance plans, so 245 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 3: she was part of this getting money directly in my view, 246 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: where the money went and how the money went out. 247 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: And so it's a level of corruption, it is corporate welfare, 248 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: and most importantly, it is doing nothing to bring healthcare 249 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: costs down, which we need them down for all of 250 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: us and especially for young people. 251 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: Well, the money you always find a revolving door in Washington. 252 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: That Civilia story is such an amazing anecdote about how 253 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: the system works for where we are now, what is 254 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: the pathway if the Senate gets a vote, what sort 255 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: of things in the deal do Republicans have to deliver on? 256 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: And is Obamacare reform Republican style likely to be taken 257 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: that before the end of the year. 258 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 3: So, first and foremost, we had a conference call today 259 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: and probably everybody knows that we're advised to come back 260 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 3: to Washington, d C. The earliest possible vote, depending upon 261 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:07,079 Speaker 3: what the Senate does, will be Wednesday, late Wednesday. 262 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 4: It may not be. 263 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 3: It just depends upon what happens in the Senate and 264 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 3: when they vote for that. And so within that package, 265 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 3: first and foremost, remember the original seven week Continuing Resolution 266 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 3: was to expire on November twenty first, So the Continuing 267 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 3: Resolution is carried forward until January thirtieth of twenty twenty six. 268 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 3: In that there are three appropriation bills that we actually 269 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 3: had already had come through the House, So the ag 270 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 3: Appropriation Bill, which importantly has Snap in it, the Military 271 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: Construction VA Bill, and then the Legislative Branch bill. So 272 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 3: those three appropriation bills will go into a mini bus. 273 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 3: Remember we have already gone through them. We have already 274 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 3: voted on them, there have already been amendments on those. 275 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 3: There'll be some changes because of amendments or agreement with 276 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 3: the Senate, so we'll have a continuing resolution till January thirtieth. 277 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: We will have appropriation bills. 278 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 4: There will be. 279 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 3: In the Senate guaranteed vote to talk about the enhanced 280 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 3: premium tax credits. But importantly, there's no increase in spending 281 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 3: in the bills that are going forward. And then we'll 282 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 3: continue to work on our appropriation bills, hopefully getting the 283 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 3: Farm Bill through, and then conversations about how do we 284 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 3: lower healthcare costs and what's the best way to do that, 285 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: and any conversation about tax credits, the enhanced premium tax credits. 286 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 3: You and I have had that conversation, I've had that 287 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 3: conversation with members. I think that's a very difficult pill 288 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 3: to swallow for that money to go directly to the 289 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 3: insurance companies. But there needs to be reforms in the 290 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 3: Affordable Care Act in exchange for doing anything on the 291 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 3: regular tax credits which are not expiring and which continue 292 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 3: to be there. So whether that is people paying more 293 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 3: or paying something when they're not paying anything, whether that's 294 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: income limits. I think there's a variety of things that 295 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: we can do, and as I said, we pass provisions 296 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: in the working families tax cuts, for direct primary care, 297 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 3: for expanding hsas I mean, I think it's important that 298 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 3: number one, cost come down when people control their money, 299 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 3: and number two having more choice and more control over 300 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: your healthcare, more incentives to adopt healthy lifestyles which can 301 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: reduce chronic diseases. And I think those are things that 302 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: absolutely we want to have a conversation about. 303 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, very exciting times. 304 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: Choice has worked in education, it's going to work in 305 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: health if we can just get there with a little 306 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 1: bit more of it. Congresswoman maryatt Miller makes always an 307 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: honor to have you on Happy Veterans. They thank you 308 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: for your service. Also, thank you for all the straight 309 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: talk to you always bring when you come to the show. 310 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: We really enjoy you. 311 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: Well. 312 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: Thank you, John, and to get Happy Veterans Day to 313 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: all our veterans out there. 314 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 2: Amen, Thank you to you as well. Thank you so much. 315 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 2: All right, coach, quick commercial break. When we come back. 316 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: President Trump stands by his allies issuing those partons I 317 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: told you about to Wisconsin Republican's target of the twenty 318 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 1: twenty election. 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There's nothing to lose except your high 342 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: blood pressure numbers. 343 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 6: Welcome back, everybody, to just the news and no noise. Yes, 344 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,959 Speaker 6: I am back. And as John talked about earlier, President 345 00:18:25,000 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 6: Trump is pardoning a whole swath of folks related to 346 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 6: the twenty twenty election, one of them, of course being 347 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,640 Speaker 6: Rudy Giuliani, a frequent guest on this program, and now 348 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 6: one of the part and recipients is joining us now. 349 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,400 Speaker 6: He is, like I said, one of the folks who 350 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:41,400 Speaker 6: received one of those pardons, former Wisconsin Judge Jim trupis. 351 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 6: Judge Jim. How are you good? 352 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,480 Speaker 3: To see you? 353 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 7: Great? Great, good to see you as well, sir. 354 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:51,439 Speaker 6: I imagine that this is an extra arrow for your quiver. 355 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 6: A lot of people, as John and I discussed earlier today, 356 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 6: might think, well, what does a federal pardon have to 357 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 6: do with the state case. But if the federal government 358 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 6: doesn't think that what you did was crime, then why 359 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 6: should this date. 360 00:19:02,560 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 8: Well, I think there's a really a fundamental issue here 361 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,160 Speaker 8: that this Justice Department is coming to grips with which 362 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:14,719 Speaker 8: is federal preemption or supremacy. In twenty twenty, what happened was, 363 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 8: we simply recommended that the president follow the rules that 364 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 8: had been established for literally hundreds of years in the 365 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 8: use of alternate delegates. It's a part of the statutory structure, 366 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:28,640 Speaker 8: it's part of. 367 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,879 Speaker 7: The United States Constitution. 368 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 8: Because of that recommendation, which was supported at the time 369 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 8: by the Wisconsin Attorney general literally told us to use 370 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 8: alternate electors, and if we did that, we had zero 371 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 8: chance of sacrificing our appeal. We told the court we 372 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 8: were relying upon that explicit suggestion by our attorney general. 373 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 8: What happens later he indicts us, even after he writes 374 00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 8: a a letter of opinion following on that as well. 375 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 8: It's hard to imagine such duplicity. This a pardon today 376 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 8: draws attention to the lawfare that is ongoing against people 377 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 8: like me. I certainly appreciate this pardon because it will 378 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 8: focus you and all the others on the continuing destruction 379 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 8: of lives. And when I say that, look, I said, 380 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 8: at one point, we have seventeen separate legal actions brought 381 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 8: against me. We've had bar complaints, are literally my son 382 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 8: was taken aside, and they took his electronics on a 383 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 8: Disney cruise. They grabbed his personal electronics in front of 384 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 8: his children. That's the kind of abuse we've gone through. 385 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 8: And then at the last possible moment, having already opined 386 00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,200 Speaker 8: that there was no crime, but Biden called on Josh 387 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 8: call and said, you have got the file something in Wisconsin, 388 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 8: and then he did in June of twenty twenty four. 389 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 7: That kind of. 390 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 8: Abuse of power, especially in these times, it's important for 391 00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 8: the partners justice step forward, and today's pardon is a 392 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 8: step in that direction. 393 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:22,159 Speaker 1: So you wore the black robe, you adjudicated cases, you 394 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: served your country. Did you ever imagine you'd be inside 395 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 1: a legal system where law gave deference to politics. 396 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:34,199 Speaker 8: Hi, No, no, you know, at the conclusion of the 397 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,719 Speaker 8: twenty twenty case, I think again, I have to give 398 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 8: a little history here. I've represented every Republican presidential campaign 399 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 8: until I was on the bench in twenty sixteen in 400 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 8: the state of Wisconsin. Going back to nineteen to the 401 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:52,640 Speaker 8: nineteen eighties, I had helped write the recount Statute in Wisconsin. 402 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 8: I was one of the one of the authors of that. 403 00:21:54,920 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 8: In a don partisan committee. I handled the only statewide 404 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 8: recount that ever been held contested for mister Justice Prosser 405 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 8: in twenty eleven. It was a surprise to absolutely no 406 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:13,479 Speaker 8: lawyer in Wisconsin when the President called on me to 407 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 8: do this. 408 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 7: Job, to help in a recount. And I was honored 409 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 7: to get that call. 410 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 8: And I'm honored to think of the President as a 411 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 8: friend and a mentor. He used to call me the 412 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 8: whatever he calls. Oh, it's the Greek judge. It's a 413 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 8: Wisconsin Greek judge. He's on the phone. Once got me. 414 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 8: I was gloved this one. He would call in the 415 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 8: morning and I'd have my grandchildren would be around, and 416 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 8: he would welcome them on the phone call. Or one 417 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 8: time I took a call from the President in the 418 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 8: back of a Wisconsin tavern and I know, John, you 419 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 8: know Wisconsin, so you know it's a traditional Friday night 420 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 8: fish fry that the President caught me. 421 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 7: In the morning evening. 422 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 8: So you know, it was a really important moment in time, 423 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 8: and I stepped forward, as I said, the United States 424 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 8: sentate on December sixteenth to twenty twenty because all the 425 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 8: other big law firms were cowards. They understood there was 426 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 8: a real case in Wisconsin. We got three members of 427 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 8: our state Supreme Court to agree with our case. The 428 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 8: Democrat lawyers themselves thanked me at the conclusion of the 429 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,199 Speaker 8: case in Wisconsin to say, we really appreciate how you 430 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 8: handled this in such difficult times. But none of that 431 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 8: matters on the national scale. None of that matters when the. 432 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,640 Speaker 7: Left is involved. 433 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 6: Judge, I want to ask you a year in what 434 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 6: five days ago they called the election for President Trump. 435 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 6: And I know that that obviously had a huge impact 436 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 6: on you as far as what you could see as 437 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 6: relief in the future when President Trump did agree to 438 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,919 Speaker 6: review these cases and possibly issue pardons. But I want 439 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 6: to ask you about what could have been the fate 440 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,479 Speaker 6: of our judicial system, and not necessarily just judges and 441 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 6: justices and a lot of these left wing activists that 442 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 6: are a part of the judiciary, but private law firms 443 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 6: as you mentioned, folks who serve, as you know, clerks. 444 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 6: What would there have ever been any repair for our 445 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 6: judicial system if the election had gone a different way 446 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 6: last year. 447 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 8: I can't tell you how sad I am about that. 448 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 8: I spent my entire life. I'm in my seventies. I 449 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 8: was retired when the President called and asked me to 450 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 8: handle the recount on his behalf. I never thought I'd 451 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 8: lived to see this day. I always say I tell 452 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 8: this story when I've been asked about this, that on 453 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 8: the day before December and November four of twenty twenty, 454 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 8: there wasn't a lawyer in the state of Wisconsin who 455 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 8: wouldn't have been proud to have me sit next to them, 456 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 8: and I would have equally proud to sit next to them. 457 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 7: And then it all changed. 458 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 8: The Left went to war with the help of the judiciary, 459 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 8: and that has continued. It is unbelievably sad for people 460 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 8: like me who've practiced law for nearly fifty years to 461 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 8: have seen this true, unbelievable change we were. We are 462 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 8: on the edge of an abyss and thank goodness President 463 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 8: Trump is there now and Ed Martin and Pam Bondy 464 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 8: to now take the steps that have to be taken 465 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 8: to clean this mess up. 466 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 1: Judge, before we let you go, what is the reason 467 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: why the federal government didn't bring these charges originally? And 468 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,959 Speaker 1: is there any evidence of collusion meaning that the Fed's 469 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: basically outsources to the states so that they would have 470 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: some activity going on during the twenty twenty four election 471 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: to Sully up, Donald Trump and his supporters. 472 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 8: Well, for you know, there is so much evidence of 473 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:44,919 Speaker 8: coordinated effort. 474 00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 7: It begins. 475 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 8: Everybody in Washington knows it. I guess it's surprised to me. 476 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 8: I'm not from Washington, but I've been out there in 477 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,959 Speaker 8: the last two years. Everyone knows Mary McCord at Georgetown. 478 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 7: Directed all of this. 479 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,399 Speaker 8: Everyone knows that the January sixth midee was all a 480 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 8: part of a national plan. Everyone knows that Joe Biden 481 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:10,919 Speaker 8: and his supporters pushed Josh Call to do this, and 482 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 8: they used NGOs and the like lowt Forward in Wisconsin 483 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 8: to do it. 484 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 7: These are open secrets in Washington. 485 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 8: It's time for the investigation to get truly serious and 486 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 8: go after these people. It was a coordinated effort, as 487 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 8: Ed Martin has said in his memo today, to deny 488 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 8: the right of the citizens of this country to petition 489 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 8: the government in a presidential election, they need to intervene 490 00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 8: in this case make those arguments. I need to bring 491 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 8: appropriate civil rights actions against these players. As I said, 492 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 8: everyone knows who they are at Washington, and that's a 493 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 8: shock to me. But something's got to be done. 494 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: We're going to make sure they know every fact, we're 495 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 1: going to have a series of stories coming up later 496 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: this week. Judge, we really appreciate all you've been through. 497 00:26:58,119 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: It really is amazing. 498 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 6: Thanks much for being here. We'll have you back on 499 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 6: again very soon. 500 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,080 Speaker 7: Staying on top of your Thank you very much, appreciate it. 501 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely drama all right, everybody, We're going to take a 502 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 6: very quick break. But on the other side, we're going 503 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 6: to be talking about the climate with Mark Morano, one 504 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 6: of the best people to talk about that in the biz. 505 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: On the other side, welcome back in America. I mentioned 506 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: at the top of the show, said it's begun debate. 507 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: You're Congressman Mary Neett Miller Meeks talk about it in 508 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: the right hand corner. You can actually see that debate 509 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: on the floor sometime tonight. It's possible the Senate will 510 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: vote to advance this bill and send it back to 511 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: the House, and a shutdown will be one step closer 512 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: to completion. We'll let you know if that happens and 513 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: keep you up to speed throughout the next hour. Meanwhile, 514 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 1: I want to bring in an amazing story that we 515 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,480 Speaker 1: learned about this week, and yeah, there's a climate conference 516 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 1: going on in Latin America. And to accommodate all the 517 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: world leaders. I'm not making this up. The host had 518 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: to cut down a lot of forests. Yeah, they diforced it, 519 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: something that climate change advocates no me complain about unless 520 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:04,400 Speaker 1: it's for their own gig. 521 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 2: Joining us now to. 522 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: Break this all down live from the COP thirty conference, himself, 523 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 1: executive editor for Climate Defo. 524 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: Our good friend like Mark moranle Marc. Good to have 525 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:13,399 Speaker 2: you on. 526 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 4: Thank you, John, happy to be here. 527 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: All right, this story is really true. They really did 528 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: clear cut of forest just so they could have a 529 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: climate conference. 530 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 9: Yes, we're looking at eight miles of a virgin tropical 531 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 9: Amazon rainforest were clearcut hair so that they could put 532 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,679 Speaker 9: in this highway to allow the private jets and to 533 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 9: allow all the SUVs and limousines of all the world 534 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 9: leaders and celebrities that are pumping in here the next 535 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 9: two weeks. They could have a freer time getting around 536 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 9: the city. After all, this is about them, right, And 537 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 9: what's amazing is the Brazilian environmental minister actually. 538 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 4: Told the BBC, which, by the way, kudos to the 539 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 4: BBC for breaking this story. 540 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 9: They had the exclusive on this how the highway was 541 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 9: built deforestation of tens of thousands of acres for this 542 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 9: highway and Bliem, Brazil for the summit. But they they 543 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 9: the environmental minister actually said we had to clear out 544 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 9: the forest so we can bring in as many people 545 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 9: as possible, so we can showcase to the world how 546 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 9: we're saving the rainforest. So they had to cut in 547 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 9: other words, they had to cut the forest down so 548 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 9: they could bring more people to show. It was you 549 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 9: can't make this these kind of absurdities up. And for 550 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 9: decades we were told you got to save the Amazon, 551 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 9: save the Amazon. Deforestation you know it it hurts climate. 552 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 9: And here they had no problem whatsoever and clear cutting 553 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 9: this forest here, and we've now dubbed the whole conference 554 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 9: not COP thirty but clearcut thirty. 555 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 4: Mark. 556 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 6: What's amazing about this to me is that this is 557 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 6: no different than all of these climate activists who take 558 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 6: G seven's and crisscross the globe, and their justification is always, well, 559 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 6: we have to do this, we have to take this 560 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 6: on and I'm paraphrasing here, but it's because we are 561 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 6: the important ones and we're the ones who are going 562 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 6: to save the world. Does anyone ever on that side 563 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,200 Speaker 6: of the movement ever see the hypocrisy in it. 564 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 9: No, they don't, and I think the lead person there 565 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 9: would be someone like Bill Gates, who hasn't shown his 566 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 9: face here yet, but he may. He's always said, you know, oh, 567 00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 9: of course I have to fly on private jets, and 568 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 9: I do this, but I buy carbon offsets. So they 569 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 9: really do take carbon offsets seriously. Here it's usually just 570 00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 9: a punchline for the vast majority of humanity, but these 571 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 9: few billionaires in climate activists, to them, that's sacred. 572 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 4: Oh I bought my carbon offsets. I'm perfectly fine. 573 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 9: I could remember John Kerry when he went to Iceland 574 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 9: to pick up an environmental award in a private jet, 575 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 9: basically told the were icelandic reporter do. 576 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 2: You know who I am? 577 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 4: I'm John Kerry. I'm saving the planet. Of course I 578 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 4: need to get around on a private jet. 579 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,479 Speaker 9: And what's ironic is they pick this city of believe 580 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 9: the statistics are staggering. Eighty percent of the people in 581 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 9: the city that they chose as the city do not 582 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 9: have access to. 583 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 4: Sewage, to any kind of sewage. 584 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 9: So this sheet, you can go outside where I'm staying here, 585 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 9: just collapse infrastructure, trash all over the streets, piles of trash, 586 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 9: stray dogs, stray cats. This is a depressed city and 587 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 9: to think that somehow net zero is going to save 588 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 9: the billion people who have energy poverty is just insane. 589 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 9: But that's what this un sum is all about. Gavin 590 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 9: Newsom participated today. I think he was actually in South 591 00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880 Speaker 9: Paulo at a side event, but basically declared himself the 592 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 9: informed unofficial US Climate Ambassador because Donald Trump wouldn't send anyone, 593 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 9: which bothered me because I had already declared myself the 594 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 9: unofficial US delegation representative. 595 00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 4: So I'm actually. 596 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 9: Battling this out with Gavin Newsom over who's in charge. 597 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 4: I'm like, al, hey, go, I'm in charge, Aaron. Gavin 598 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 4: Newsom's disputing. 599 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 2: That an al Hague moment in the climate movement. How 600 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 2: about that? Mark? I want to turn to China. 601 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: It burns more cold every day, every single day. It 602 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: has some of the worst pollution standards in the world, 603 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: and yet somehow it always feels like the darling get 604 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: these conferences. Why does the Western climate people worship China 605 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: when its record is contrary to its wishes? 606 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 9: Great question. Here's what happened today. Was the first day 607 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 9: of the conference. I literally walked through the main entrance, 608 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 9: finally got my badge scanned. What is one of the 609 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 9: very first things you see is a gigantic China. I 610 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 9: guess they call them exhibits or you know there they 611 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 9: have like giant big stages. China had two flags up, 612 00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 9: they had multiple books by xijingping all over the table. 613 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 9: They had the most well attended event. You was standing 614 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 9: room only. You couldn't even get into the event. And 615 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 9: China a foreign ambassador actually said we are pushing global 616 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 9: climate governance, heir at COP thirty. Why wouldn't China be 617 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 9: pushing global climate covenance? 618 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 4: Just for one simple reason. 619 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 9: They are the single greatest beneficiaries of the entire United 620 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 9: Nations net zero climate agenda. Donald Trump's twenty twelve tweet 621 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 9: exactly laid it out. Global warming was invented so that 622 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 9: China could basically become the globally dominant, single economic superpower. 623 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 4: And that's exactly what we have. In fact, China is 624 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 4: seen now. 625 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 9: By the delegates and the activists, hair the climate activists, 626 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 9: as the hero of the summit. Donald Trump is being 627 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 9: trashed for not attending or sending a delegation and for 628 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 9: pulling out of Paris and hopefully he's going to pull 629 00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 9: us out of the nineteen ninety two reoer A Summit treaty. 630 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 9: But China, in response to that, double down on future commitments. 631 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 9: So they haven't done anything. Remember they're building two coal 632 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 9: plants a week on average, but they're pledging in the 633 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 9: future to do more. And that's enough for the activists 634 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 9: Hair who are giving them standing room only events. 635 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 4: And you know who knows. 636 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 9: I bet Jijiping books book is flying off. 637 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 4: The shelves Hair at the UN Climate Summit. 638 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 6: I feel like when China says that it's like the 639 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 6: checks in the mad I'm sure. I'm sure they're going 640 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 6: to be Actually they're in China, mark before. 641 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 2: Sure. 642 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 9: When kurrent body fails to convince you, just make future promises. 643 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: That's what they do here at the UN. Of course, of. 644 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,240 Speaker 6: Course, because it's much much easier to keep future promises. 645 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 6: I want to ask you, and this is something that 646 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 6: I think we talked to you about. During the Biden administration. 647 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 6: We were constantly hearing about the auto industry being in 648 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 6: the red because of their evs that they were producing 649 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 6: and constantly needing subsidies to build them out and now 650 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 6: they have gotten a break not only from the Trump 651 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 6: administration but from the courts as well. Tell us about it. 652 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, Well, first of all, the EV sales you 653 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 9: have Ford, the f one fifty, they're now now going 654 00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 9: forward with the EV on this they're giving up essentially 655 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 9: just halting, and that's actually hopefully going to save these 656 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 9: automakers money. They invested all this money into this whole 657 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 9: EV mandate, but they only got to seven percent of sales, 658 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 9: and now we have a situation where the evs are 659 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 9: going to tank. The Ford CEO is expecting half of 660 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 9: the sales of EV's that just collapse with all of this, 661 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 9: the pullback of the California mandate and the congressional review 662 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 9: that Congress has done. So you know, it's to be 663 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 9: interesting to see what kind of aid they end up 664 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 9: getting and how they recover from this. But at least 665 00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 9: the government is no longer in the United States ideologically 666 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 9: pushing this. 667 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 4: And by the way, just for reference, talking. 668 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 9: About China and EV's, it is literally takes half a 669 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,040 Speaker 9: million pounds of materials dug up from the earth cheaply 670 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 9: from China to make one average sized EV battery of 671 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:32,280 Speaker 9: one thousand pounds. 672 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 4: So this is where we are. 673 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 9: That's reality, and anyone who claims that EV's we're saving 674 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 9: the planet is delusional. They were basically giving China global dominance. 675 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,080 Speaker 1: Amazing, Mark, We're so grateful because you've always kept us 676 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 1: ahead on this story. 677 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 2: You do such great research. 678 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: The hypocrisy is jaw dropping, but I guess at this 679 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: point not that surprising anymore. 680 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 2: Good to have you on the show, my friend. 681 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 4: Thank you, John, thanks a lot. 682 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: Appreciate it about that They clear for us share on 683 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: polluting Chinese. 684 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 2: That is a new climate movement, and I wonder what 685 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 2: will come next. 686 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 1: All right, Well, we can give more subsidies to healthcare companies. 687 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: That's what we can do. All right, all right, we're 688 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: gonna take quick commercial BAK. When we come back. We'll 689 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 2: talk about how to protect your home. 690 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: From title theft next right after these messages, and. 691 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 2: Welcome back everybody. 692 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: I promise every week this month we're going to do 693 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: a look at just how pernicious home title fraud has become. 694 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: Home title theft is stealing the equity that you worked 695 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: years to put into your home, and it is becoming 696 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: a really big deal nationwide, even globally and these cameras 697 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: can do it dozens and dozens of times. 698 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: Now. 699 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: For example, there's an ongoing case in Arizona where prosecutors 700 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: alleged just two people were able to scam hundreds you 701 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,360 Speaker 1: heard me write, hundreds of homeowners, and they did it 702 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 1: by pretending to be representatives of a company that helped 703 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: rescue homeowners from forekosure. But instead, the complaint by Arizona 704 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: Attorney General Chris May said they stole the homes right 705 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,240 Speaker 1: from out under the owner's own noses. Here's the Attorney 706 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: General herself talking about it. 707 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:16,320 Speaker 10: It's disgusting behavior and it is against the law. Every 708 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:22,440 Speaker 10: piece of property, every luxury vehicle, and every bank account 709 00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 10: controlled by these defendants is now under court supervision. 710 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 2: Don't find yourself in that circumstance. How scary is that? 711 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:32,399 Speaker 2: All right? 712 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: Joining us now to discuss Satelledge crime and more. Emmy 713 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 1: and multi award winning Who's Anchor and investigative reporter has 714 00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 1: recently been spending his time researching this very crime, the 715 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 1: home title theft scam that we're seeing today. His name 716 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: is John Summery's a good friend, John. Great to have 717 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:47,200 Speaker 1: you on the show. 718 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,879 Speaker 5: Great to be back John, and boy, I tell you 719 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 5: you're doing stellar work lately. 720 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:54,239 Speaker 2: Kudos to you. 721 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, this particular crime is really starting to spread 722 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 5: in so many different ways. And John, you talk about 723 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:09,040 Speaker 5: this couple in Arizona that the Attorney General Chris Mays 724 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: is prosecuting. What they did was specially insidious because the homeowners, 725 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 5: primarily elderly people and people that had financial problems, were 726 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 5: looking for help from someone, and this couple posed as 727 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,279 Speaker 5: various charities, saying that they would be able to help 728 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 5: them out financially only if they would transfer the deed 729 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 5: to their property into what they called a trust, but 730 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,360 Speaker 5: it was actually not a trust. It was an l 731 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 5: LC or a number of different companies that this couple controlled, 732 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 5: and then once they did that, they had the deed 733 00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 5: to the property, and then they could extract the value 734 00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 5: of those homes for themselves. A particularly insidious crime because 735 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,399 Speaker 5: they were actually working upon the trust of these homeowners. 736 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 5: And again, most of them were elderly, some of them 737 00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 5: were not in all their right mind, and they took 738 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 5: advantage of them. And for most people, John, as we know, 739 00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:22,279 Speaker 5: your home is the greatest value of your estate. And 740 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 5: what I don't really understand is why in this particular 741 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 5: case in Arizona, it was considered a civil crime because 742 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,799 Speaker 5: this is really something far more serious than stealing a 743 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 5: watch or some jewelry or somebody's car or whatever. This 744 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 5: is the entire value of your estate and they can 745 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 5: extract that and then you're left with nothing. And it's 746 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 5: taken a long time to be able to unwrap this 747 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 5: particular group that was scamming these older people. 748 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've seen two big cases in the last couple 749 00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 1: of months of large scale thirty victims I believe in 750 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:08,120 Speaker 1: Detroit hundreds and Ariphonias. Yeah, it's becoming now more systemic. 751 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,959 Speaker 1: It seems we've been talking about it for a few years, 752 00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,960 Speaker 1: but it does seem like it's accelerating. This case had 753 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: something that was really a red flag for me. Obviously, 754 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: targeting the vulnerable is a big part of it, but 755 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,439 Speaker 1: another part of it is the homeowners were told, hey, 756 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: this transfer of your deed is a temporary thing to 757 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: help you out of your financial circumstances. That's one of 758 00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 1: the many tactics he scammers use. Right to pressure you 759 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: to sign something. 760 00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 5: Yes, John in most cases with the title theft or 761 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 5: deep theft or what the FBI used to call it 762 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:38,760 Speaker 5: house stealing. 763 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 2: You don't know that you've been taken. 764 00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 5: In other words, somebody, the criminal will be able to 765 00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,800 Speaker 5: transfer the paperwork into their name, and they'll extract the 766 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 5: value by taking out loans or even sell the house, 767 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:54,439 Speaker 5: and the homeowner won't know it until two, three, four 768 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: months down the road when the loan company comes and says, 769 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 5: you haven't paid on your loan. In this case, the 770 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 5: homeowners knew that they were turning over the deed to 771 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 5: their property. They thought it was safe that it was 772 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 5: going to be held in trust, and they were just 773 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 5: simply desperate and looking for help. So this is a 774 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,160 Speaker 5: different way of looking at this crime, but by the 775 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,920 Speaker 5: same token, it's the same thing. Somebody stole their home 776 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:22,080 Speaker 5: through a different means. 777 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it is despicable, but it is something that's happening 778 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: more and more, all right. So you're a journalist. You 779 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,839 Speaker 1: have this great way of looking at things. When you 780 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: look back, you reconstruct this story. Were there some morning 781 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: signs early on, or some safeguards that maybe these victims 782 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 1: should have paid the closer attentions? 783 00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 5: Well, I mean there are two ways of doing it. 784 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 5: I guess if you have an older parent, then maybe 785 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 5: it's the responsibility of the children to kind of look 786 00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 5: out out for their home because a lot of these 787 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 5: people are not completely in their right minds. As you 788 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,799 Speaker 5: get older, you're just losing control of being able to 789 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 5: care for yourself. In fact, there's a case down in 790 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 5: Dallas where the son of the owner of the home, 791 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 5: who had the same name by the way, actually pretended 792 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 5: to be the father and sold the home. He was 793 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,640 Speaker 5: in air do well and he ended up in prison 794 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 5: a couple of times, and the loan company, actually the 795 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 5: real estate company, came and said, well, you sold your 796 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,319 Speaker 5: home and you haven't moved out, and you have to 797 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,399 Speaker 5: be evicted. So there are different ways of managing this 798 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,680 Speaker 5: particular crime, but there are also ways of protecting yourself. 799 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:39,560 Speaker 5: And I would say, if you have an elderly parent 800 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 5: that needs help controlling their own life, then you need 801 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 5: to find a monitoring service or some way of protecting 802 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,120 Speaker 5: the title to their home, because they may not be 803 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,319 Speaker 5: able to do it themselves, and certainly you're not even 804 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,720 Speaker 5: going to be able to monitor your title full time. 805 00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 5: So there are companies out there, and there's one in particular, 806 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 5: John that I've researched. They're really the pioneers in this 807 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 5: industry a combany called Home Title Lock and they have 808 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 5: something called million dollar Triple Lock Protection. And what they do, John, 809 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 5: is they will monitor your title twenty four to seven, 810 00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 5: which you can't possibly do, and then they will alert 811 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,879 Speaker 5: you if there's something in fishy going on. And then 812 00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 5: if for some reason the title actually gets transferred into 813 00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:33,360 Speaker 5: an air Dowells name, then they will work with you 814 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 5: up to a million dollars to be able. 815 00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,960 Speaker 2: To restore that title. 816 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,239 Speaker 5: Otherwise, John, you have to hire an attorney, you have 817 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,240 Speaker 5: to go through the court system. It's just a terrible 818 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,200 Speaker 5: thing to have to handle, especially if you're an older 819 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 5: person and really can't deal with this kind of a 820 00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 5: situation on their own. 821 00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got a great partnership with Home that a 822 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: lot here at justin to using Real America's voice. And 823 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: it's a great gift to someone if you love someone 824 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: they're going into the silver years of life. It is 825 00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 1: a great protection device because they work their whole life 826 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: to get that equity in that house. It would be 827 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 1: awful to have some frauds or go steal it. John, 828 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 1: your stories are amazing. This one in Arizona really caught 829 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: my attention. Great to have you on the. 830 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: Show, my friend. Thank you so much. John. I appreciate it. 831 00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 2: I appreciate all the great work you do. 832 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 4: Folks. 833 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna take a couck commercial break, but before we do, 834 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: I mentioned we've got this very special partnership with hometitle 835 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: lock dot Com. I don't want anyone to be victimized 836 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: by this if they can avoid it. 837 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: So here's what you do. 838 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,600 Speaker 1: You go to home title lock dot com and use 839 00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,760 Speaker 1: the special promo code JTN to get a free title 840 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,360 Speaker 1: history report and a free trotal of their million dollar 841 00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,839 Speaker 1: triple lock protection, just like John was talking about. That's 842 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 1: hometitle lock dot Com promo code jt N. 843 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,279 Speaker 2: We'll be right back. 844 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,759 Speaker 6: Welcome back, everybody. So we are keeping an eye on 845 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 6: that Senate vote. They've got to get to sixty for 846 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,920 Speaker 6: those enhance ACA subsidies. So John and I guess, well, 847 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 6: it probably won't be done voting by the end of 848 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,600 Speaker 6: the show. But Grinstonfield connupdate you on that when it comes. John. 849 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 6: A lot of Washington fans facing backlash after booing President 850 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 6: Trump relentlessly last night, and what I thought was particularly 851 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 6: distasteful was that they were booing him as he was 852 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 6: swearing in a whole group of new service members, and 853 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:22,880 Speaker 6: it was really disheartening to see. But it's the DMV. 854 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what more do you need to say? It's Washington, 855 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 2: d C. 856 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: The fans are the same people that work in the 857 00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: federal government and work at the Democratic National Committee that 858 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 1: said they should have been booing their team on the field. 859 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,200 Speaker 1: Who've got whooped? They got whooped last night. Oh my goodness, 860 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: that's pretty bad. Inverted numbers. Yeah, listen, Trump arrangement syndrome 861 00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,799 Speaker 1: is here to stay. But that doesn't take away from 862 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: the incredible people who were sworn in on the eve 863 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 1: of a Veterans Day and our veterans. We don't boo 864 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: when it comes to our incredible men and women in uniform, 865 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,200 Speaker 1: and those dought to maybe rethink their values a little bit. 866 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 6: Yeah, and to that in I'm wearing my poppy today. 867 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 6: I went by the American Legion to grab a poppy 868 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 6: because in Commonwealth countries they wear poppies now until at 869 00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,200 Speaker 6: some point in November. I know in the States they 870 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 6: wear them in May. But I always wear it for 871 00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,759 Speaker 6: Veterans Day because I want to honor our veterans and John. 872 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,680 Speaker 6: I just hate it for the people last well, actually 873 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 6: I love it for the people last night at that 874 00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:27,919 Speaker 6: game who aren't consumed with Trump arrangement syndrome. Who got 875 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 6: to see that historically low. 876 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,880 Speaker 2: Flyover Yeah, yeah something read. 877 00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 6: The writing, all right. I want to get into what 878 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 6: happened today in the Oval Office and historic meaning between 879 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,279 Speaker 6: a Syrian head of state and the President of the 880 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:49,799 Speaker 6: United States in the Oval Office. I know that that 881 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 6: a part of that conversation had to be because President 882 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,920 Speaker 6: Trump is someone who fights for religious liberty and the 883 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,759 Speaker 6: protection of faiths across the globe. So I know a 884 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 6: part of that conversation had to be, uh, the persecution 885 00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,000 Speaker 6: of drus and Christians in southern Syria. 886 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:09,800 Speaker 2: But faith leader yesterday, President to raise it. 887 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's it's a really incredible letter. Everybody go 888 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:16,440 Speaker 6: check that out. But it is a I hope a 889 00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:17,680 Speaker 6: sign of good things to come. 890 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, listen to the guy as a former terrorist. I 891 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,840 Speaker 1: take that into account. President does, but he he seems 892 00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 1: to have stepped into the role of a more dignified 893 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 1: leader that maybe has put that violence and hatred behind. 894 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,040 Speaker 1: We've got two humanitarian crisis going on. One in Syria 895 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 1: with the Druids and the other Christians being executed there, 896 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:42,360 Speaker 1: and then in Africa. What's going on in Nigeria is 897 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:47,000 Speaker 1: unforgivable as well, and this president is determined to end it. 898 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,279 Speaker 1: We'll see if he has the levers of power he 899 00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,080 Speaker 1: can do to force these people. The Nigerians have basically 900 00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: went o ha. But I have a funny feeling when 901 00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,879 Speaker 1: he starts pulling their aid, they'll have a different tune 902 00:47:57,880 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: to sing. 903 00:47:58,520 --> 00:47:59,400 Speaker 4: I think that's true. 904 00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:01,239 Speaker 6: And you know from what we have seen from these 905 00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,800 Speaker 6: nations that during President Trump's first term joined the abraham 906 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 6: Of course, you think of the prosperity and the economic 907 00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,120 Speaker 6: opportunity that that brought for those nations, and that's another 908 00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:10,919 Speaker 6: incentive as well. 909 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 2: I agree. 910 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,760 Speaker 1: I agree the carrot and the stick and the carrot's 911 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: pretty good. Getting truth to the American people. We love 912 00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: we do that. So a couple of things that come 913 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,239 Speaker 1: to mind. There was a whisper campaign, including a conservative 914 00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,680 Speaker 1: media that somehow Cash Bettel was over using the corporate 915 00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:28,880 Speaker 1: jet turns up uses it about. They actually uses it 916 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,759 Speaker 1: lesson James coming about the same as Chris Ray, and 917 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,720 Speaker 1: he's found a way to make it a lot cheaper 918 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 1: the fandker has to buy law use it. But it 919 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 1: wasn't what people had. But reporters reported the criticism without 920 00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:46,000 Speaker 1: checking the facts, people like Mike Kisikoff and lots of others. 921 00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,480 Speaker 1: And I think it's important if you're going to raise 922 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 1: a concern to maybe check it out before you Eric 923 00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: and then tomorrow, I think I'm really looking forward to 924 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: the story that Stephen Richards is going to do that 925 00:48:55,880 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: takes a look at just how wealthy insurance companies get 926 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: and what would have happened to the insurance industry if 927 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:05,720 Speaker 1: they didn't have these enhanced premiums. It's going to shock people. 928 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:06,719 Speaker 2: You know what. You know what it looks like. 929 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: The earning scurve looks like a jet taking out of 930 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: Reagan a national air party. 931 00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 2: Goes cool straight up? 932 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:13,480 Speaker 6: All right, John, I have to give you a pat 933 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,799 Speaker 6: on the back. And for those who didn't see the 934 00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,920 Speaker 6: press release this morning, Just the News is getting the 935 00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:24,800 Speaker 6: opposite of ozempic. It is expanding to include post millennial 936 00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:28,520 Speaker 6: and human events. Very worthy organizations to be under the 937 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 6: Just the News. 938 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: Two great news organizations, lots of great talent, The Great 939 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: Jack Withsovic and so many other good people really excited. 940 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: We'll have more details come, but upright future for all 941 00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:38,360 Speaker 1: of us together in the Foxhole. 942 00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, and I'm looking forward to having all those journalists 943 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,640 Speaker 6: folded into the Just the News banner because you have 944 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,440 Speaker 6: something truly, truly wonderful here, and I know I. 945 00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 3: Hear it makes it wonderful, but I hear it. 946 00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:50,400 Speaker 6: All the time from our audience how much they value 947 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,879 Speaker 6: just the News and that is a credit to you 948 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:54,960 Speaker 6: and your your legendary status and journalism. All right, everybody, 949 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:56,920 Speaker 6: that's all we have for tonight. Grant Sinchfield is going 950 00:49:56,960 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 6: to they take you through the next hour. 951 00:49:58,440 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: Tomark