WEBVTT - "Male Actors" w/ Hari Nef

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<v Speaker 1>Podcast starts now, Hello, we are coming at you live

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<v Speaker 1>from New York City, where we are roughly one half

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<v Speaker 1>hour late, which is so.

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<v Speaker 2>So being gas lit because both of us saw major

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<v Speaker 2>train delays that were allegedly citywide. We get here thinking, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>everyone's going to be late. They are major citywide train delays.

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<v Speaker 2>We get here, everyone is.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, everyone's fine, everyone's sitting around with.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of us coming from different places, are both late.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we were targeted.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think do you think it's part of Trump's

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<v Speaker 2>terror related actions? Of course he is saying we are

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<v Speaker 2>doing no more in studio gay podcasting in this new

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<v Speaker 2>era of America.

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<v Speaker 1>You silence of the A podcasters, you silence truth.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I do think that's actually there's something to that,

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<v Speaker 2>because if you think about it, you know, we're sort

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<v Speaker 2>of the bottom of the totem pole.

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<v Speaker 3>Start with us.

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<v Speaker 2>It's kind of like starting with public universities and working

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<v Speaker 2>her way up to Harvard. You know, we are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like the test subject of all State. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you know, next thing, you know, where's Michelle Obama's podcast?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 2>Why isn't she talking to Sofia Bush about being empowered?

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<v Speaker 1>It's so nice to refer to ourselves as the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the zone pole.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, of.

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<v Speaker 1>Course I feel I have to say. You know, last

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<v Speaker 1>night I was I was, I mean New York, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, God, New York is just like Paris.

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<v Speaker 1>Never been to Paris, but still the sentiment was there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then today I'm like, you know what, I needed this.

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<v Speaker 1>I needed to be like brought down a few pegs

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<v Speaker 1>because by the subway, by the subway, because I was

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<v Speaker 1>really like, what am I doing with my life?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And now here I am a half hour late, sweaty

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<v Speaker 1>as hell.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there really is very seeing me about being humbled.

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<v Speaker 2>There's nothing like running twenty minutes late and then texting

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<v Speaker 2>is there a food in the office because I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had breakfast and being told yeah, there is a single

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<v Speaker 2>string cheese. There you go, there's a string cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually really respected that you asked.

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<v Speaker 2>That, and I am now I'm in this dilemma. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're not watching on video, I'm holding the string cheese.

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<v Speaker 2>It is check off string cheese, and it might be

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<v Speaker 2>eaten by the end of the episode, or it might not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should have why didn't you eat it

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<v Speaker 1>before recording?

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<v Speaker 2>Because there is something about admitting defeat. You know what

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's like, imagine I'm Lady Gaga okay, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm running late, and I'm saying, is there anything there?

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<v Speaker 2>And they give me one string cheese? Would Lady Gaga

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<v Speaker 2>eat the string cheese?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, this logic game is not working for no. She

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<v Speaker 1>would say, well, she would eat it in three bites.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't string it, she'd eat it in three bites.

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<v Speaker 2>She would eat it in one bite because might Donna

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<v Speaker 2>a documentary style? She would say truth or dare say

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<v Speaker 2>truth or dare put this string cheese in your mouth

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<v Speaker 2>one fucking bite.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think you should have eaten it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Lady guy I would have eaten it. I think

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<v Speaker 1>Madonna would have gagged upon it. Yeah. I think if

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's something about you know, being so in

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<v Speaker 1>need where then you have to perform how needy you

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<v Speaker 1>were when you get here, or you almost need to

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<v Speaker 1>scarf at and be like God, I was about to die.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what so okay related to this, h Here's what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm struggling with. Obviously we're late, and obviously we're talent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you're now you're forced. Now you're forced to decide

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to be so apologetic and humble or

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to walk in and pretend nothing happened

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<v Speaker 2>and say this is how I operate?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, what did you do? I missed your entry because.

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<v Speaker 2>I have I was apologetic. I will, but I stopped

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<v Speaker 2>myself from being overly apologetic because I think there was

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<v Speaker 2>a way I could have debased myself further. And I said, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>you host an iHeart podcast, bitch, You host an iHeart

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<v Speaker 2>podcast and you have a free string cheese on your

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<v Speaker 2>person that you could eat it at any point. You

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<v Speaker 2>know what I did, and it's tax deductible.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, First of all, I also apologize, huh, But I also,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, tastefully not overboards that would have been so

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<v Speaker 1>bad that would have made it their problem. Not fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But I I had a half drank coffee and I

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<v Speaker 1>threw it away on the way in because I didn't want.

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<v Speaker 2>To want to walk in late with a coffee. Yeah, yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, that's enough coffee. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>get our guests taken on this whole debacle.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait to hear our guests perspective on this

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<v Speaker 1>entire debacle.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say, we have been trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>this girl on. I feel almost like when we had

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<v Speaker 2>Kathy Griffin on, and not only because they're both ladies

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<v Speaker 2>in comedy that are not afraid to speak out about

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<v Speaker 2>Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, That's very.

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<v Speaker 2>True, because they were both no, no, she's not all

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<v Speaker 2>to speak yet, but because they have, they are both

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<v Speaker 2>people that have been like screamed for on the on

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<v Speaker 2>the discord, on the and the messages we're getting. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm When we did the pull, who do you want

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<v Speaker 2>to see on the pod? This person ranked above Lady Gaga,

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<v Speaker 2>all three, him, sisters, all three, all three, because there

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<v Speaker 2>were submissions for even Yeah, there were submissions for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and then there were multiple submissions for just st because

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<v Speaker 2>of course she's the comedian of the trio. So please welcome, actress, writer, model,

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<v Speaker 2>beautiful hair. Have Harry NEPV.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi boy, Hi, So Harry. How are we doing so far? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you're doing great. I feel like you walked in late

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<v Speaker 3>and you apologized from a place of power. I feel

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<v Speaker 3>as though it's fine. I feel as though I was

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<v Speaker 3>in Midtown at eight thirty am today to get a

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<v Speaker 3>dry bar at Nordstrom, and I went to a whole

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<v Speaker 3>diner before I got here, I got the New Yorker

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<v Speaker 3>breakfast special at the Brooklyn Diner. Oh so that's who

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<v Speaker 3>I am today. But you relate and that's who you

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<v Speaker 3>are today. And I'll hold that again.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you mourning? Are you a morning diva?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm always in mourning.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you in mourning?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, grief is just a part of grief is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Part of life.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm in morning for my life, totally speak of chekop string.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay, so when you're when you arrive and they

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<v Speaker 1>say they're running, lay tell us what's going through your mind?

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<v Speaker 2>What's going through your mind? Walk us through that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I already told George, like, somebody owes me something

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<v Speaker 3>like I've won. Like you are going to be apologetic.

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<v Speaker 3>You are going to lay it on a little thicker.

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<v Speaker 3>You are going to act like you owe me something

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<v Speaker 3>and you do. Yeah. Wow, it's great for me.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is that's how I would feel too, because

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<v Speaker 2>you think I feel you think as the person apologizing

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<v Speaker 2>that you're in the that you're like humiliated and have

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<v Speaker 2>something to prove, and it's like you're just giving the

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<v Speaker 2>other person a gift of being in power in that

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<v Speaker 2>social situation.

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<v Speaker 1>What, George, I have to tell you something. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to come clean about something. Normally, I'm the one that's

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<v Speaker 1>like five minutes early, and you're the one that's like

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<v Speaker 1>five to ten minutes late, and you know me in

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<v Speaker 1>the squad here sort of look at each other and

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<v Speaker 1>go Wednesday, get here today, and we get to have

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<v Speaker 1>this amazing little vibe, this connection, and I get to

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<v Speaker 1>have this power. And today it's been stripped away from

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<v Speaker 1>me in such a huge way, and I'm having an

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<v Speaker 1>identity crisis because of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is one of the most shocking things you'd ever.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when I walked in I had to look

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<v Speaker 1>at everyone in the eyes and say, like, you guys know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not normally like this.

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<v Speaker 3>How would I know?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And that's true, And that's true. You would have

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<v Speaker 1>no way of knowing. So that's kind of funny. A

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<v Speaker 1>little peak behind the curtain.

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<v Speaker 3>It's okay, I forgive you. Why are you It's over.

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<v Speaker 3>It's over. It's over.

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<v Speaker 2>Punishment is over, and we are back in power.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, I have a new topic.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what's the new topic?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Today I've decided to wear white jeans.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, what do you think about white jeans power

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<v Speaker 2>move resort, It's it's wealth.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like dirt will not be smirched me. I am

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<v Speaker 3>not in the dirt. My hands are not getting dirty,

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<v Speaker 3>neither on my legs. I'm white jeans. Yeah, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's even more bold and powerful before Memorial Day, Diva, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>is that the thing like Memorial Day to Labor Day

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<v Speaker 3>is like when it's permissible to wear white bottoms.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the only time when it's okay to be

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<v Speaker 2>a white bottom.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you feel about white bottoms?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's complicated obviously because it is my community,

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<v Speaker 2>but I definitely feel like they've had enough time in

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<v Speaker 2>the sun. Really yeah wow, But I here's what I

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<v Speaker 2>think though, that don't you think that saying the whole

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial Day to Labor Day thing is now so passe

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<v Speaker 2>that it's almost like it's more of a power move

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<v Speaker 2>to wear it outside of that.

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<v Speaker 3>No, because I love rules, I love clothes rules. We

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<v Speaker 3>have been stuck in the TikTok algorithm of finding your

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<v Speaker 3>personal style. And everybody is beauty, everybody is fashion, every core.

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<v Speaker 2>Is bring back shoes have to match the belt?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bring back Dogma baby.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, this is one of our friends, and I

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<v Speaker 1>bet you can guess who based on the response. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, he was trying to dress me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, well, this is kind of weird, Like aren't

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<v Speaker 1>the shoes supposed to match the belt? And he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't fucking care what you learned on what not

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<v Speaker 1>to wear in two thousand and three, like you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to follow any of that.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think, though, Harry is right that it's like

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<v Speaker 2>things have gone so far in the other direction that

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<v Speaker 2>we need to rein it back and everyone has to

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<v Speaker 2>actually look like a route floor and ad we actually

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<v Speaker 2>just like three years to get back on track.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, Arisa, Yeah yeah, it's like going on the

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<v Speaker 1>Brat diet style.

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<v Speaker 2>It's exactly like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about belt to shoes, but purse to

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<v Speaker 3>bag yeah, oh no, purse to shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Shoe no, No matching no.

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<v Speaker 3>Never.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know. Is that do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>Was that a rule that you had to match or

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<v Speaker 2>purse to your shoe?

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<v Speaker 3>No? But I think it's something that is done. I

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<v Speaker 3>see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's Upper Eastside lady, yeah, or like I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>where that's I've never done it.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually I'm having a memory of trying to do

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<v Speaker 3>it once and having maybe like an elder queen or

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<v Speaker 3>an elder girl or someone really severe who I looked

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<v Speaker 3>up to, very severely and furiously punished me for that.

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<v Speaker 3>The first time I ever went out and heels, it

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<v Speaker 3>was like a Jeffrey campbellita, you know, like twenty eleven.

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<v Speaker 3>I was outside the but I was fighting for my life.

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<v Speaker 3>I was leaning against a brick wall having a cigarette.

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<v Speaker 3>I could barely stand. And this drag queen sees it.

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<v Speaker 3>She cocks me, and she goes, don't let them see

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<v Speaker 3>you take your shoes off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, to be caught, for her to know

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<v Speaker 2>you were in pain just by the way you were

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<v Speaker 2>leaning on the wall.

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<v Speaker 3>Do not take them USh, do not take your shoes off.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have taken that so to heart. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it is disgusting when the girls do that at weddings

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<v Speaker 3>about Vitzma's. It's unlady like, it's unseemly.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you think of girl having sneakers in her

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<v Speaker 2>bag and putting them on at the after party.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, Like, who wants to have shoes in

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<v Speaker 3>their bag?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Those shoes are on the ground, they're inside of your purse,

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<v Speaker 3>your toe. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>This is actually something I noticed when I first sorry

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<v Speaker 2>moved to America is that American people when they pack,

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<v Speaker 2>will just put a toothbrush loose with their shoes in

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<v Speaker 2>their in their bag.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't makes my toothbrush with my shoes, but

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<v Speaker 1>I will sort of throw my toothbrush in the dopkin't loose.

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<v Speaker 1>So whatever else is in that bag, it's touching.

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<v Speaker 2>And are the shoes loose with your clothes?

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<v Speaker 1>No, I put my shoes in a little bag now.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's kind of a newish development.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Honestly, anytime you get a little dust bag, save it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have like a bag of the bags and it

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<v Speaker 3>just like sits in the corner of the closet you

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<v Speaker 3>fished out. Any time you have to travel, hold onto that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, anytime you're at a hotel, they have those bags

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<v Speaker 3>and the thing, I don't think they charge you if

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<v Speaker 3>you steal them. I always steal them.

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<v Speaker 2>I the secret is stealing things from a hotel. Don't

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<v Speaker 2>look at the bill afterwards. I have no idea if

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<v Speaker 2>I was ever charged for the robe that I stole

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<v Speaker 2>from that it's a really good secret I wear all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. I'm instaging myself in my little robe.

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<v Speaker 3>They charged the robes, you know, you know what my theory.

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<v Speaker 2>There were three in my room, even though then you

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<v Speaker 2>I was just one person and I took one and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh, they're not going to notice, because like,

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<v Speaker 2>why would they have three in there? But what I

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<v Speaker 2>think they do is they purposefully put three in there

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<v Speaker 2>so the guest thinks, oh, I can get away with it.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so finances according to George, which is just

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<v Speaker 1>like just don't look.

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<v Speaker 3>How many beds were in the room one. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it was like a king So they're putting three, they said,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>They're being very progressive. What are they it's a hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>What do they want to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know they're also making me feel like

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<v Speaker 2>a prude because I'm there by myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Where are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't even having one partner with me, let alone two.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it's San Francisco.

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<v Speaker 3>I love re staying in a hotel room that I

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<v Speaker 3>know I've had sex and like.

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<v Speaker 2>I have really you specifically request it?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I stay at the Sunset Tower in

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<v Speaker 3>la like whenever someone else is paying for it, and

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<v Speaker 3>there are a couple rooms there where it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>the grinder flash. Yeah, life of ten years.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think there was a in my life where

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<v Speaker 2>I like never wanted to look back, and every time

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<v Speaker 2>I was somewhere where I had been before, I felt like,

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<v Speaker 2>take get.

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<v Speaker 3>Me out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually in a very nostalgic phase right now

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<v Speaker 2>where I actually am like purposely like I'll go to

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<v Speaker 2>my high school reunion. I mean maybe not that I

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't go that far, but like I'm in a high

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<v Speaker 2>school reunion place.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to hook ups, I'm very nostalgic. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I'll have hooked up with someone once in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll like message them on Instagram. I'd be like

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<v Speaker 1>have you been.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a really distinct memory, probably like five or

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<v Speaker 3>six years ago, of like coming across your Instagram and

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<v Speaker 3>I saw your little mustache and you're a little like

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<v Speaker 3>kind of mullet, and I was like, what's that?

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<v Speaker 2>The moment era was huge for here?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it gay?

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<v Speaker 1>That's funny?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it kind of gay? Are you growing back?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of going back to time.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually I like this length.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's a little more tasteful.

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<v Speaker 3>Before it was like full, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, trying to be country or something. Yeah, I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>paul as Cow.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I know you were giving the fantasy of like

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<v Speaker 3>the pitchforky like is it straight? Is it all like

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<v Speaker 3>tinder fantasy of twenty nineteen? That's what you were giving.

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<v Speaker 3>You look good then, and.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that's what you would you ever go country?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Countdown to country? When is it?

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<v Speaker 2>If your career demanded it, if someone was like, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to go country.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of respect to the country, No, honey, I could

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<v Speaker 3>not be more coastal. I could not like it's it.

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<v Speaker 3>I am not opposed to the genre. I am not

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<v Speaker 3>opposed to the vibe. I'm not opposed to that.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't think it would be authentic. You don't think

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<v Speaker 2>if you were to go country you could pull it off,

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<v Speaker 2>is what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 3>Actually, now I want to try.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think you should. I can't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>your next era.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I don't mean like pull it as an

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<v Speaker 3>esthetic for like ladies and gentlemen. I mean like go

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<v Speaker 3>to Lake Okachoby and see if I can turn it,

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<v Speaker 3>because if I can turn it in like okachobe baby, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's sort of like the equivalent. You know, if

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<v Speaker 2>you were a comedian, you would be like touring the

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<v Speaker 2>country seeing if your material worked on non coastal audiences.

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<v Speaker 2>You bring it back suddenly you're better than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want access to that. I want to learn

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<v Speaker 3>how to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmmm, I want to. I wish time was unlimited. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>start there. Well, yeah, because I think, wait, really, I

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<v Speaker 1>wish I could like choose, like I wish I could

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<v Speaker 1>be like, Okay, now I'm going on vacation from real time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going into fake time, sort of the waiting

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<v Speaker 1>room for.

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<v Speaker 3>Mining Granger, literally turning the time. We're huge Harry Potter

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<v Speaker 3>fans ever heard. Oh my god, I'm actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Not really, but because I would love to go work

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<v Speaker 1>on a farm and see if I could do it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I want a simple life, my life just for

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<v Speaker 1>like a year, but not you lose a year. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, because think about it if I worked on

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<v Speaker 1>a farm and I got what if like of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, think of the montage. Month one, I'm horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Month three, I know where to get the pig slop. Yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 1>and I oh, I'm good at carrying it.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say this time.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, go ahead, No, I think deserve but like you,

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<v Speaker 3>you don't know, I'm assuming. Okay, wait where are we from.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm from the midwestern Virginia. Okay, yeah, I mostly grew

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<v Speaker 2>up in Greece, but I spent six years in New Jersey.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, so okay Jersey high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Like middle school, end of elementary school.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, do you know any of like the coastal

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<v Speaker 3>kids who like, oh did farming gave up on the

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<v Speaker 3>semi charm kind of life? And then like, fully we're

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<v Speaker 3>like bio organic, they them farming like five years later

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<v Speaker 3>and like maybe are still there?

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<v Speaker 2>One of my greatest I wouldn't say regrets, because ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>I don't regret it, but I always would hear about

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<v Speaker 2>those things. And by those things, I mean anything ranging

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<v Speaker 2>from peace Corps on one end and like organic farming Kibbutz.

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<v Speaker 3>Living organic non binary Jewish, non binary.

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<v Speaker 2>Jewish farmer state brand, and I would always be like

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<v Speaker 2>sixty five percent interested, and I'd be like, yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>I had just like a little an inkling more of

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<v Speaker 2>like the go getter attitude and like the you know,

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<v Speaker 2>less of a fear of disappointing my parents, who like

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<v Speaker 2>wanted me to be an engineer. I would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, but it felt very much like doing that. The

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<v Speaker 3>whole point was to disappoint h Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. But the thing is I was playing the

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<v Speaker 2>long game because the number one way to dispoint your

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<v Speaker 2>parents is becoming a stand up comedian. You ate that, no,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was. Did you consider it?

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<v Speaker 3>No? I wanted to be an actress.

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<v Speaker 2>You wanted to be an actress, Sure, it's true, and

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<v Speaker 2>you also wanted to be in the big city.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, wait where are you from?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Boston. Oh, Newton, Massachusetts?

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<v Speaker 1>Got it? Got it?

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<v Speaker 2>Got Should we do our first segment?

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<v Speaker 3>I think we should, Okay, Harry.

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<v Speaker 2>Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,

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<v Speaker 2>we test your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture

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<v Speaker 2>by asking a series of rapid fire questions where you

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<v Speaker 2>have to choose this thing or this other thing and

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<v Speaker 2>you have to just go with your gup. And the

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<v Speaker 2>one rule is you can't ask any follow up questions

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<v Speaker 2>about how the game works because we will yell at you.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, Harry. The right to remain silent, or the

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<v Speaker 1>fight to regain the big client, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Fight terry game, the big Agnes Varda or a Couslada,

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<v Speaker 2>Agnus Varda, Noche.

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<v Speaker 1>Chester Cheetah or bag about Gita.

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<v Speaker 2>Back about out, mind the gap or grind or chat

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<v Speaker 2>mind the gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Meeting with h R or speeding in a car.

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<v Speaker 2>Speeding in a car a fast car, opposites attract or

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<v Speaker 2>megalopolis fell flat opposite the truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, keep me in the loop or get me out

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<v Speaker 1>of this improv troop.

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<v Speaker 2>Cerid the loop, using Klarna to pay or blaming Karma

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<v Speaker 2>the second because you're okay the like I wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 2>cat dead.

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<v Speaker 3>Larna is so dark to me. And they got all

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<v Speaker 3>the drag queens do with the Clarka's pond.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, because you know they have to use it, Babe

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<v Speaker 2>paid post drag race.

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<v Speaker 3>No, also like Klarna, Like what kind of a name

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<v Speaker 3>is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 3>What what kind of like? It's like a Ryan tricartan character.

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<v Speaker 2>You had one opportunity to name your company. You had

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<v Speaker 2>a brainstorm meeting, you had follow up meetings. There was

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<v Speaker 2>anil that went right up to the COO.

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<v Speaker 3>There are reply alls that said hey, following up.

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<v Speaker 2>I love the direction we're going in.

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<v Speaker 3>Ladies General, Please Klarna, Larna.

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<v Speaker 2>She comes out to like.

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<v Speaker 1>She sucks, she's first eliminated.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not even in like a miss Van Drey

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<v Speaker 2>fun way. Everyone's like this was a mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>No, she's so flopped.

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<v Speaker 2>We have to rank Harry's performance on a scale of

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<v Speaker 2>one day. So used to be on the scale of

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<v Speaker 2>one to one thousand doves based on the Lady Gaga.

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<v Speaker 2>We recently changed it to zero to one thousand blades

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<v Speaker 2>of Grass in honor of the worst song from her

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<v Speaker 2>new album Bad Bressy.

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<v Speaker 3>Not too much on seventy.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I have to say, I mean, I'm like, this

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<v Speaker 2>is close to a perfect score for me. I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say nine and ninety nine doves, I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>Blades of press.

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<v Speaker 2>What I loved about Harry's performance is that she, I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, embodied a character of drag Race Judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was very it was very house your head.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet no, because I I want that to happen to

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<v Speaker 3>be so bad. I've not done it no, And I

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<v Speaker 3>feel like they know that I'm in so deep, and

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like they know that I want it so badly,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think they're ever going to give.

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<v Speaker 1>It to me, going to come to you.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's my question for you, and we can stop

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<v Speaker 2>talking about this whenever you want, even though you brought

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<v Speaker 2>it up. What would your ideal challenge be that you

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<v Speaker 2>would judge? Oh, do you think, because you obviously are

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<v Speaker 2>a multi high fit it, do you want to judge

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<v Speaker 2>an acting challenge, a runway modeling challenge?

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<v Speaker 1>Arose?

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<v Speaker 3>You know you're sort of the category. Really, I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>a woman in comedy kind of Honestly, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>I can be more articulate and like an authority about

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<v Speaker 3>a fashion challenge. I wish I were articulate in an

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<v Speaker 3>authority about an acting challenge, but those are still stripes

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<v Speaker 3>that I feel I am earning, or stripes that you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the industry in question is like not going to give

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<v Speaker 3>me yet, but fashion gave it away to me very

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<v Speaker 3>quickly and very bountifully.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're thinking an am.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, really speaking from a place of power when it comes.

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<v Speaker 2>To fashion, I think runway or you know, photoshit, editorial,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, like the.

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<v Speaker 3>Ball, the Ball challenge, Oh, the Ball challenge. Yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 3>I want to judge like seventy three us no, but

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<v Speaker 3>I also know, but like I would love to judge

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<v Speaker 3>a performance challenge because like I want to be like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you're the trans girl, right, like stop thinking about passing.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I can tell that you're doing that little thing

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<v Speaker 3>with your voice, like let it go, baby, let it

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<v Speaker 3>all hang out. I'm not trans.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just the camera guy.

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<v Speaker 3>I lived in this season, I watched Drag Race, and

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<v Speaker 3>like love Drag Race for the moments were like the

0:23:59.400 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 3>void bins and like the line between trans and drag

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<v Speaker 3>queen exists. The line between like drag queen and capitalist

0:24:05.840 --> 0:24:08.880
<v Speaker 3>subject like oh yeah, I mean not exists, like like

0:24:08.880 --> 0:24:12.560
<v Speaker 3>like disintegrates, and like Hunter Shaeffer walks into untop to

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:14.560
<v Speaker 3>this season and she's just sitting there and she and

0:24:14.560 --> 0:24:16.679
<v Speaker 3>she's looking around at all of these like drag queens

0:24:16.680 --> 0:24:20.879
<v Speaker 3>and drag and she's like, are there any dolls in

0:24:20.960 --> 0:24:26.000
<v Speaker 3>the room. Two of them are like yeah, Like because

0:24:26.000 --> 0:24:28.520
<v Speaker 3>you don't know, that was a funny moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I hate to become a Drag Race podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>but I do want to know your quick thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>this season because we have decided as a bit that

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<v Speaker 2>we are team Jewels Sparkles.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's sort of and it's actually not a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>We're fully team Jewel Sparkles. Why I think, Well, obviously

0:24:50.040 --> 0:24:53.199
<v Speaker 2>Anya like okay, watching it, I'm like, I'm Anya's gonna win.

0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:56.280
<v Speaker 2>And I love Anya, and yeah, but there's something about

0:24:56.359 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>the perseverance of Jewels. She's always she's always being underestimated

0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:04.120
<v Speaker 2>and she always ultimately turns it out. She has a

0:25:04.160 --> 0:25:09.560
<v Speaker 2>gorgeous just presence. I mean, that face deserves to be

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>on television.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's so funny and nice. And then also I'm

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>so happy when she starts a little fight, but she

0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:20.600
<v Speaker 1>like does it with like she has like moral correctness,

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:22.560
<v Speaker 1>Like she's like I know what's good and what's bad,

0:25:22.800 --> 0:25:24.640
<v Speaker 1>and I always agree with her morals.

0:25:24.880 --> 0:25:27.720
<v Speaker 2>And she has charisma which honestly can't be taught. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>here's my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I like my drag queens with like a drop of

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<v Speaker 3>poison in it.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

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<v Speaker 3>I like the drag queen that like kind of wants

0:25:39.640 --> 0:25:42.080
<v Speaker 3>to hurt something. I like the drag queen that has

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 3>hatred in her heart. I like the drag queen that

0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 3>like desublimates the hatred in her heart into like funny

0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:53.520
<v Speaker 3>drag with like a little twisted sense, or like wicked beauty.

0:25:53.560 --> 0:25:59.320
<v Speaker 3>That's like a little like disturbing or like Timmy Brown,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 3>like just like from outer space.

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<v Speaker 2>So you love Hormona, Lisa, Yes, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is literally it. It's like I was here for Hormona. I

0:26:08.720 --> 0:26:10.960
<v Speaker 3>was even here for Susie too, because like I don't

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 3>know whether she's aware of the poison, but like the

0:26:12.960 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 3>poison is there and I live. I love. I love

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<v Speaker 3>the rotted white theater queens. Not that like to Susie

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:20.480
<v Speaker 3>too is rotted, but like I love like the white

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:22.960
<v Speaker 3>queens who are just like I'm the one and.

0:26:25.880 --> 0:26:32.920
<v Speaker 2>Such a funny thing to it, right yeah.

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:33.600
<v Speaker 1>Like.

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:39.040
<v Speaker 3>And like I loved the kind of like trans vibe

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:43.600
<v Speaker 3>of the way Susie would deliver naturalism in the acting performances,

0:26:43.640 --> 0:26:46.560
<v Speaker 3>like you're just an actress, baby, Like the wick is on,

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:48.600
<v Speaker 3>but like the could really be on if you wanted

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:53.240
<v Speaker 3>to work. There is a chemical substance stronger than glue.

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<v Speaker 3>No I and I feel in this top four we

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<v Speaker 3>there's a famine of poison. I would actually probably say

0:27:06.240 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 3>team LEXI love because there's some poison there for sure, right,

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:11.320
<v Speaker 3>you know she what did she say? It sent the

0:27:11.359 --> 0:27:14.320
<v Speaker 3>whole I host little drag race viewing sometimes on Fridays,

0:27:14.480 --> 0:27:17.080
<v Speaker 3>you are always welcome. But she was on the stage

0:27:17.080 --> 0:27:19.440
<v Speaker 3>and she said the streets, the pipe and the pole,

0:27:19.760 --> 0:27:20.440
<v Speaker 3>all of it.

0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:22.919
<v Speaker 1>When she said that past that was amazing. That was

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:26.400
<v Speaker 1>like Jerry blank coded, Yeah, this is so great. I've

0:27:26.440 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 1>never had anyone say that in real life.

0:27:28.680 --> 0:27:30.879
<v Speaker 3>I'm always gonna ride for a queen that's from the streets,

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 3>the pipe, and the poll ideally all of it.

0:27:33.240 --> 0:27:36.159
<v Speaker 2>G Lexy team, Like I guess, I do. I mean,

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.880
<v Speaker 2>I do love Lexe is a star. And it also

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.360
<v Speaker 2>just makes you remember, like, yeah, what we lose by

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 2>all of them being twenty three is that they don't

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:45.439
<v Speaker 2>have lives they can talk about.

0:27:45.720 --> 0:27:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the twenty three was glaring this season,

0:27:49.600 --> 0:27:50.600
<v Speaker 1>it was re blaring.

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's there's drag queens at twenty three who

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:57.480
<v Speaker 3>have shipped to talk about that's true. I mean it

0:27:57.640 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 3>used to be like, I don't know, being a drag queen,

0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Like it used to be like you were from the

0:28:02.359 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 3>streets and you were free. This is like your last resort,

0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:07.840
<v Speaker 3>like you have to do this because you cannot pass

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 3>for anything other than a drag queen. But like, I

0:28:10.440 --> 0:28:12.960
<v Speaker 3>don't know, you know, like mistress is about Brooks like

0:28:13.000 --> 0:28:17.120
<v Speaker 3>she's young, she's got a dragon, she was sixteen. That's true, true, true, Yeah,

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:18.160
<v Speaker 3>we still have those grete queens.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think about all their parents coming in

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:21.960
<v Speaker 2>and being so supportive.

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I live.

0:28:30.200 --> 0:28:33.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, it was, it was. It's inspirational. And then

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.639
<v Speaker 2>at some point you're like, okay, so at this point,

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>is this just the equivalent of like if your son

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 2>played baseball, like if everyone is so supportive, But like.

0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:48.760
<v Speaker 3>I actually lived extra for like Susie's mom. Yeah, like

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 3>non plus yeah, and I just spit the p and

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:56.600
<v Speaker 3>plus it was like, well, it's theater training. That what

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>I lived for the representation of like a non plustly

0:29:04.040 --> 0:29:07.640
<v Speaker 3>supportive parent. We were talking about this. I'm so much

0:29:07.680 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 3>more realistic.

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.280
<v Speaker 2>It's so much more realistic, and I really I became

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>upset at the fact that they were trying to sell

0:29:12.040 --> 0:29:14.960
<v Speaker 2>us this narrative that Susie's mom was less supportive quote unquote,

0:29:15.040 --> 0:29:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like she was less excited than like a Sam Starr's

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>mom or like the or Jules's dad, and you were

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.600
<v Speaker 2>supposed to almost feel bad for her that they didn't

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:27.840
<v Speaker 2>have this more like kei ky relationship and it's like, no,

0:29:27.960 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 2>that's what my mom or your mom would be like

0:29:29.960 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 2>suposed to be, Like, that's what moms are supposed to be.

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 2>Like if my mom was Sam Starr's mom and she

0:29:34.520 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, who here needs help talking?

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:38.200
<v Speaker 3>I would like not like that.

0:29:38.560 --> 0:29:41.600
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's something we've talked about neutrality on this podcast

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot, and there's many realm for it. We are

0:29:44.760 --> 0:29:48.760
<v Speaker 1>supportive politically not politically, of course, but one thing I

0:29:48.800 --> 0:29:51.960
<v Speaker 1>do think we're neutrality really matters is parents' support. Yes,

0:29:52.040 --> 0:29:54.240
<v Speaker 1>like they aren't supposed to hate what you're doing, but

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.200
<v Speaker 1>they're also not supposed to be like gagging.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely that's the only way to raise normal children, yeah,

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 2>is you can't gag too much.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to be like, okay, cool, like let

0:30:03.640 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 1>me know how that goes. That's it, like start, that's it.

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my mom gagged, Well you know you're in I

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:18.680
<v Speaker 3>don't think she's being supportive. I just think I gagged her, Yeah,

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 3>gagged her a bit.

0:30:19.960 --> 0:30:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I fear I.

0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 3>Think I gagged my dad too, my stepdad, stepmom, stepdad?

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:29.160
<v Speaker 3>Why are you gagging?

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:29.600
<v Speaker 1>So?

0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:31.280
<v Speaker 2>Why are you gagging?

0:30:31.320 --> 0:30:31.400
<v Speaker 4>So?

0:30:31.840 --> 0:30:32.040
<v Speaker 1>You know?

0:30:32.080 --> 0:30:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I bring it to you every ball I have been Klarna.

0:30:38.320 --> 0:30:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Klarna Clarna documentary when like, it's only a matter of time.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:44.760
<v Speaker 2>To expose Clara the company.

0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I.

0:30:46.040 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 3>Have a list of drag games, but I feel like

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:49.400
<v Speaker 3>we probably should start talking about Oh my god.

0:30:49.400 --> 0:30:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay, wait, well do you want like five of those?

0:30:51.280 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:30:51.440 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 4>Yes, okay, okay, detritis.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's good. Uh Jean Jenna Rams John Jay.

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<v Speaker 2>Quarantine, Quarantine.

0:31:30.200 --> 0:31:32.200
<v Speaker 1>Quarantine would absolutely.

0:31:31.600 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 3>Be on Kinney Charistmas.

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>MARCHIALI, Si, wow, Quarantine is my favorite. Quarantine's really I

0:31:47.200 --> 0:31:49.600
<v Speaker 2>thought there should be a drag name, drag queen named kombucha.

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:51.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there is somewhere.

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:54.440
<v Speaker 2>Probably you have to hope, but quarantine is beautiful. That's

0:31:54.480 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>really a nice name. Become her because wait, speaking of lists, Harry,

0:32:00.480 --> 0:32:03.360
<v Speaker 2>you did send me last night an incredible list of

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:05.520
<v Speaker 2>straight topics and you can choose whichever one you want,

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>but I would like you to read the list.

0:32:08.720 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 3>Yay, I love this. Call me buzzby the way, Yeah,

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:24.640
<v Speaker 3>stradio okay. Quote clubbing not like partying, not like the

0:32:24.720 --> 0:32:33.560
<v Speaker 3>club club, the art house, interesting, quiet, luxury, drag brunch,

0:32:34.680 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 3>plastic surgery oh okay, big boobs okay, skinny parentheses, new development.

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I would a little bit more about this, keep going here.

0:32:49.640 --> 0:32:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Male actors, right, yes, being supportive.

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Kindness, Okay, yeah, there's so much there. I mean, first

0:32:59.440 --> 0:33:01.800
<v Speaker 1>of all, club I think is such a clubbing in

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:05.760
<v Speaker 1>quotes is an amazing topic because it is like this

0:33:06.200 --> 0:33:09.520
<v Speaker 1>thing where it's like foreign, like they're like, well, that's

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:11.240
<v Speaker 1>like that's a thing that some people do. It's like

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>a genre person. Now I'm spinning, now my theater trains

0:33:13.200 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 1>coming out and that for Whereas for LGBTQ plus it's

0:33:17.680 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 1>sort of like, well, yeah, it's a given part of like.

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're just say I'm going out.

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:25.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, Well, clubbing is about the club. It's about

0:33:25.920 --> 0:33:28.920
<v Speaker 3>like the location. Ideally the LGBT is like we're here

0:33:28.960 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 3>for the music or like we're here to like get

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 3>laid or like you know, we're here to do drugs. Like,

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 3>clubbing is about the.

0:33:35.760 --> 0:33:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Club, and it's about lines.

0:33:38.320 --> 0:33:45.440
<v Speaker 1>It's about like and it's about like what oh drag Race.

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:50.080
<v Speaker 3>When no, no, Share is not drag Race exclusive. The

0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:51.200
<v Speaker 3>way I imitate her.

0:33:51.120 --> 0:33:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Is at this point, I think of Sharing more with

0:33:55.120 --> 0:33:58.160
<v Speaker 1>drag Race than anything else. I mean, exists as a

0:33:58.240 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 1>character in the drag Race universe.

0:34:00.000 --> 0:34:01.800
<v Speaker 2>You know, much like we were talking about John Diddy

0:34:01.800 --> 0:34:03.840
<v Speaker 2>in the other day, there's share the person and their

0:34:03.880 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 2>share of the fantasms phantasm that exists in culture.

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's much like Sally Rooney and that she's.

0:34:09.000 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>Much like Salaraty in that sense. Okay, Wait, I do

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:16.200
<v Speaker 2>want to know which which one you ended up? I

0:34:16.239 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>want to know which one you ended up choosing of

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:22.280
<v Speaker 2>of the of the topics I have to choose.

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:24.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh, we can also choose together. Well, okay, but I

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 3>also wait, you know I already offered. I want you

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 3>to Okay, we.

0:34:29.800 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Can spend on skinny prenzies, new development.

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:34.520
<v Speaker 2>I do want you to expand on that, even if

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:35.439
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't end up being the topic.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.919
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, it's it's just like you know, the

0:34:38.160 --> 0:34:43.600
<v Speaker 3>X algorithm. It's like I feel like, if you're gay,

0:34:44.160 --> 0:34:46.640
<v Speaker 3>it's it's about the cutting edge, and it's about being different,

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 3>and it's about especially like the coastal gay, especially the

0:34:50.719 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 3>New York gay, it's always about going over here when

0:34:53.239 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 3>everyone else is over there. And like the new thing

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:56.680
<v Speaker 3>is like I want a big boy. I want a

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:59.759
<v Speaker 3>big fat boy. Yes, Like it's it's like the two Tours.

0:34:59.800 --> 0:35:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I was like the cut Torso and the Belly torso

0:35:01.960 --> 0:35:06.040
<v Speaker 3>it's like want the belly, like you know, it's we're

0:35:06.040 --> 0:35:13.720
<v Speaker 3>done with cut. We're wow, maybe we're done with cut period.

0:35:15.600 --> 0:35:20.000
<v Speaker 2>Declaring done with I think hashtag done with I'm Paul

0:35:20.000 --> 0:35:21.800
<v Speaker 2>announcing the challenge, and the hashtag.

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:24.160
<v Speaker 3>Is done with cut. I gotta be cut.

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be cut.

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:32.680
<v Speaker 2>She's already done cut hers.

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 1>Well yes, twice.

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.680
<v Speaker 3>Listen. Wow.

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.400
<v Speaker 1>Well okay, so skinny.

0:35:42.960 --> 0:35:44.840
<v Speaker 3>Is the faggots.

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, literally, I think that is interesting. I mean it is.

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:51.839
<v Speaker 1>We talked a little bit yesterday about like working out

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:54.680
<v Speaker 1>in sort of the masculine vibe of it, and I

0:35:54.719 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 1>do feel like skinny as the ideal body type is

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>like a new like republican ideal.

0:36:00.800 --> 0:36:03.879
<v Speaker 2>But you're saying gays when they zig, we zag, meaning

0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:06.799
<v Speaker 2>like okay, we're hashtag done with cut for men and

0:36:06.840 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 2>then for women? Are we hashtag done with skinny in

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:10.360
<v Speaker 2>the gay world?

0:36:10.640 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, well, I think that, like lesbian beauty standards are

0:36:16.800 --> 0:36:23.320
<v Speaker 3>always affirmative, like a healthy woman's body, like the straight

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:26.080
<v Speaker 3>girl standard of trying to be like cute, skinny and

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:28.759
<v Speaker 3>petitue for like, like, it's like we go the other

0:36:28.800 --> 0:36:31.920
<v Speaker 3>way of that as lesbians. I'm not a lesbian I'm

0:36:31.960 --> 0:36:37.840
<v Speaker 3>trying to I'm using my theater training. I'm using my

0:36:37.880 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 3>theater training.

0:36:38.840 --> 0:36:40.360
<v Speaker 1>Lesbian Yeah no.

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:45.880
<v Speaker 3>No, I feel as though the healthy female body is celebrated.

0:36:45.960 --> 0:36:49.719
<v Speaker 3>I feel like I can't really imagine the lesbian. That's like,

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, the Chinatown art bro. That's just like I love,

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:56.520
<v Speaker 3>like an abject little like skinny like indies, like twelve

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 3>year old, like you know, vibe.

0:36:59.040 --> 0:37:01.920
<v Speaker 2>Theater training is absolutely coming out.

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.319
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, I'm I mean, like, I just I

0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:07.880
<v Speaker 3>don't know. I'm sorry, are you Sarah Snook? This is

0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:08.439
<v Speaker 3>twenty six.

0:37:08.480 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 2>Different characters are playing the twenty six characters and Dorian

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:11.959
<v Speaker 2>Gray right now.

0:37:12.480 --> 0:37:15.000
<v Speaker 3>No, but I could you could? You could? No, I could?

0:37:15.000 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 3>I could play like nineteen, Yeah, yeah I would.

0:37:17.880 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>They would have to cast a different person just for

0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the final six. You're doing nineteen, And they're like, she

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:25.040
<v Speaker 2>has she almost has the right and to do all

0:37:25.120 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 2>twenty six, but she's just doing nineteen.

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:28.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I do want to see it. I think I

0:37:29.400 --> 0:37:30.120
<v Speaker 3>think she's the team.

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:32.360
<v Speaker 2>Well she is, I mean talking about drag she says

0:37:32.360 --> 0:37:34.600
<v Speaker 2>that she's like what she likes better is that she

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:36.200
<v Speaker 2>gets to be a drag king. She's like, I'm not

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 2>a man, I'm a drag king in the show.

0:37:39.760 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 3>I kind of identify as a female impersonator on the low.

0:37:43.040 --> 0:37:44.280
<v Speaker 2>Harry, what are you talking about?

0:37:45.560 --> 0:37:46.640
<v Speaker 1>Please SayMore.

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's it's just like what the girls used to

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:53.720
<v Speaker 3>call themselves vocationally.

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 2>It's like semantic, like like the.

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Real show girls in like the eighties, who like we're

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.640
<v Speaker 3>living their lives as women, but were also like employed

0:38:02.680 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 3>as female illusionists and like it wasn't like it's like

0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:08.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm not a drag queen. I'm a female impersonator. I

0:38:08.239 --> 0:38:11.400
<v Speaker 3>embody the look and feel of real like I you know,

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 3>oh that good eighty silicone, like they like the injection.

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh if that weren't like illegal and highly dangerous, I

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:21.680
<v Speaker 3>would be coned down.

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you are you thinking of a sort of Pam

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:27.280
<v Speaker 2>Anderson Baywatch figure?

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:31.600
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, it's just like like a BBL

0:38:31.840 --> 0:38:33.799
<v Speaker 3>does not hit the same. No, it's just like a

0:38:33.840 --> 0:38:38.200
<v Speaker 3>little bit of like free silicone injected into your hips

0:38:38.239 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>and a bath tub.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:41.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, inject me. I'm a free bitch.

0:38:42.840 --> 0:38:46.440
<v Speaker 3>No, Like it's cool. I don't know. I'm obviously not

0:38:46.600 --> 0:38:51.399
<v Speaker 3>trying to like publicly disavow whatever if ias on the record,

0:38:51.480 --> 0:38:54.799
<v Speaker 3>but like I love female. No, no, and like people,

0:38:54.840 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, people who live their life the way I

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 3>live my life with the same whatever, like that was

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 3>the nomenclature. Honey, I'm all about like it's a historical

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 3>that this is also proprietary.

0:39:04.280 --> 0:39:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Don't you think gay guys are male impersonators in some

0:39:06.800 --> 0:39:09.719
<v Speaker 2>way because they're sort of like trying in a huge

0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:11.920
<v Speaker 2>the masks off. Yeah, the masks are and.

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Even like putting on a cameo hate just.

0:39:14.480 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Like the gym gaze. They're like, oh no, I have

0:39:18.200 --> 0:39:21.359
<v Speaker 2>to have another male body on top of mine so

0:39:21.400 --> 0:39:22.399
<v Speaker 2>that I can feel like a man.

0:39:22.640 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's just protein instead of silicone.

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:26.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's protein instead of silicon, and silicon is so

0:39:26.680 --> 0:39:27.480
<v Speaker 2>much more glamorous.

0:39:27.840 --> 0:39:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Literally, I do wish there was a.

0:39:30.320 --> 0:39:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Version of getting giant fake boobs for a man, because

0:39:34.040 --> 0:39:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that would make so many people so much happier.

0:39:36.560 --> 0:39:38.799
<v Speaker 3>You can get silicone injected into your pectorals.

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:40.879
<v Speaker 2>It's also true. The chin the chin trend. The chin

0:39:41.040 --> 0:39:43.439
<v Speaker 2>the chin trend, that's the that's the equivalent. Oh yeah,

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:45.520
<v Speaker 2>people do be getting chins. People are getting chins in

0:39:45.560 --> 0:39:47.239
<v Speaker 2>a big way. You're lucky you have a strong chin.

0:39:47.360 --> 0:39:51.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh, thank you for saying that, Okay, wait, so but

0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:57.080
<v Speaker 1>I do know you don't. That's okay, George.

0:39:56.960 --> 0:39:59.360
<v Speaker 3>I already said that I kind of thought you were cute,

0:39:59.400 --> 0:40:01.120
<v Speaker 3>but like I don't, I don't. I don't see a

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:05.239
<v Speaker 3>strong change. I don't really see it.

0:40:05.360 --> 0:40:08.319
<v Speaker 2>I want to know about about parenthesieson new development when

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.719
<v Speaker 2>it comes to skinny. So you're saying it is sort

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 2>of like is this kind of not to be so literal,

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 2>but like in a posto zembic world, skinny is back in.

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I just feel like, Okay, here's here's what I really think. Like,

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.640
<v Speaker 3>the gays are not relevant, the gays are not in

0:40:24.680 --> 0:40:27.520
<v Speaker 3>the pole position. No, I agree that the gays are

0:40:27.560 --> 0:40:30.680
<v Speaker 3>not like the cultural force that they used to be,

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:36.200
<v Speaker 3>and so they are kind of like top down retooling

0:40:36.239 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 3>their brand right now. They're at basement fucking on girls. Yeah.

0:40:40.800 --> 0:40:43.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, completely, No, I think totally. We seated so much

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 2>ground during the marriage equality era where everyone had to

0:40:47.160 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 2>pretend they were normal so that we get married. And

0:40:50.800 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I think we thought, you know, we thought, we thought,

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:56.840
<v Speaker 2>oh well, we'll do this performance of everyone everyone wants

0:40:56.880 --> 0:41:01.120
<v Speaker 2>little designer twins and we're all normal and ties and

0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:03.799
<v Speaker 2>as soon as we are right to Mary, we can

0:41:03.840 --> 0:41:07.439
<v Speaker 2>go back to being absolutely horrifying and doing share impressions

0:41:07.520 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 2>and you know, injecting silicon for sport. Yeah, but it

0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.359
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work like that. The brand is ruined work Larna now.

0:41:16.520 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 3>But it's not your fault, little gay boy, because it's

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:22.240
<v Speaker 3>really hard to be a man right now. It's really

0:41:22.280 --> 0:41:25.000
<v Speaker 3>not fab to be a man right now, and it

0:41:25.080 --> 0:41:29.840
<v Speaker 3>hasn't been for years. And I feel like the gays

0:41:29.840 --> 0:41:32.280
<v Speaker 3>are just trying new things, Like what if you weren't

0:41:32.320 --> 0:41:35.400
<v Speaker 3>body fascists and we were actually like, you know, I

0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 3>want a big boy. What if we weren't like ill

0:41:38.000 --> 0:41:41.760
<v Speaker 3>Vana and like you know, you know, sampled the little Fish.

0:41:41.840 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 3>It's like, what will this save me? Like, yeah, spoiler? No,

0:41:47.880 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 3>I mean, y'all got your podcast, so y'all are good,

0:41:50.400 --> 0:41:54.680
<v Speaker 3>y'all can cut you know, y'all can suck dick or whatever.

0:41:54.719 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 3>But like some of these guys are really looking for

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 3>their way in. Yeah.

0:41:57.600 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>No, whenever I meet a gay without a podcast, I

0:41:59.560 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 1>get so.

0:42:00.120 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 3>So I'm lost.

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, what is the I guess you're gonna have to

0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:05.640
<v Speaker 2>like try bisexuality.

0:42:05.960 --> 0:42:08.360
<v Speaker 3>One of the drag names is mortgage memoir.

0:42:08.840 --> 0:42:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice.

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:16.560
<v Speaker 2>What I What I love about what I love about

0:42:16.600 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>this topic, Harry, is that we keep getting farther and

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>farther away from skinny new development. You have now theorized

0:42:23.440 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>about every every No, I'm just saying.

0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:30.359
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, like skinny was the gay standing, and

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.319
<v Speaker 3>because it is the gay standard and the stocks is down.

0:42:33.280 --> 0:42:36.600
<v Speaker 2>It's straight now. Yes, Okay, Okay, I get it again, Yes, okay.

0:42:36.640 --> 0:42:40.000
<v Speaker 3>I and I feel like gaze of all. You know,

0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 3>Actually I shouldn't just say gazball stripes. I should say

0:42:42.160 --> 0:42:45.319
<v Speaker 3>that skinny gaze feel more down for big boys now.

0:42:45.320 --> 0:42:48.800
<v Speaker 3>They're talking about it on Twitter very loudly and performatively,

0:42:49.600 --> 0:42:53.080
<v Speaker 3>and I think that they I think it's a matter

0:42:53.280 --> 0:42:57.120
<v Speaker 3>of being seen as having more large ass.

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:58.759
<v Speaker 1>H But.

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I'll say largest, great drag name, please welcome largeness.

0:43:05.239 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>So this is complicated for me, of course. Well Sam

0:43:07.640 --> 0:43:11.279
<v Speaker 1>has always been in Big Boys. Yeah, sort of been

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:13.760
<v Speaker 1>my whole vibe like a big boy. I can't help myself.

0:43:13.800 --> 0:43:15.640
<v Speaker 2>You feel like it's getting more popularized in a way

0:43:15.680 --> 0:43:18.399
<v Speaker 2>where you were like, oh, I saw Arcade fire at

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Sasquatch in you know, yeah, I'm.

0:43:20.520 --> 0:43:22.439
<v Speaker 1>Literally like, wait, you never even listen to their EP?

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:27.359
<v Speaker 1>You don't care. No, I'm sort of like I'm just

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.160
<v Speaker 1>being like, I'm taking a back seat. I'm like, you know,

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm letting everyone else discover on their own time. And

0:43:31.840 --> 0:43:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm sort of, you know, I would say not, I

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.840
<v Speaker 1>think it is a bit desperate. It's because it's not

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:41.239
<v Speaker 1>being into big boys. It's the branding about being into

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:45.520
<v Speaker 1>big boys that's embarrassing. So I'm sort of letting them

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.120
<v Speaker 1>sort of shame themselves and embarrass themselves and then and

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:54.000
<v Speaker 1>then silently, you know, I'm sort of quiet luxurying my

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>my interests.

0:43:56.040 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 3>Are you a feeder?

0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.920
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm not a feeder. Okay, but celebrate the community,

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>of course.

0:44:01.400 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Of course, you don't want them to show their work.

0:44:04.760 --> 0:44:07.920
<v Speaker 3>Come complete, Okay, come as you are.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's wait, I want to look at the I

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>have the list in front of me. We are going

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:14.919
<v Speaker 2>to pick one on air.

0:44:15.320 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I will say. Drag Brunch is already jumping out.

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:20.959
<v Speaker 2>I know I love drag Bunch and we're already talking

0:44:20.960 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>about drag.

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure I've even actually been to a drag

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 3>brunch because that's how straight it is. It's like it's

0:44:27.560 --> 0:44:30.839
<v Speaker 3>so not for us. Yeah, but it is the girls

0:44:31.160 --> 0:44:32.120
<v Speaker 3>they are working.

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:36.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, is that what we're gonna do. Drag brunch

0:44:36.440 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 2>is big. I mean, I do love kindness and being supportive.

0:44:40.560 --> 0:44:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I do love male actors because you are so right

0:44:44.080 --> 0:44:47.640
<v Speaker 2>that the deification of like and by the way, I

0:44:47.719 --> 0:44:49.840
<v Speaker 2>love these men. But you know, al Pacino, Robert de

0:44:49.880 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 2>Nier like to be like, my favorite actor is al Pacino.

0:44:53.200 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 3>So straight, I to quote Joan Didion, it's not a

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:05.560
<v Speaker 3>part of my world. It's not. Yeah, like I I

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:09.279
<v Speaker 3>there are male actresses.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, yes, this is okay. So I'll have

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:18.440
<v Speaker 2>this theory that basically acting shouldn't be by gender. It

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:25.239
<v Speaker 2>should be like best Butcher performance, bestem performance, best twink performance,

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:28.160
<v Speaker 2>best bear performance, and like you can be Judy Dench

0:45:28.160 --> 0:45:30.279
<v Speaker 2>and you can be giving a bear performance, or you

0:45:30.360 --> 0:45:41.279
<v Speaker 2>can be it's with a bear smile, or you can

0:45:41.320 --> 0:45:43.360
<v Speaker 2>be Oscar Isaac and you can be giving like a

0:45:43.480 --> 0:45:44.600
<v Speaker 2>high fem performance.

0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know, I like this.

0:45:48.680 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, so let's all right, Well even male actors,

0:45:51.480 --> 0:45:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I think like, because there's one thing where it's the

0:45:53.560 --> 0:45:55.920
<v Speaker 1>greats and then the other thing where it's like obsessing

0:45:55.960 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 1>over Paul Rudd. Yes, it's like, yes, he's like always good. Sure,

0:46:00.000 --> 0:46:03.080
<v Speaker 1>it's like what is this, Like, why is he? Why

0:46:03.080 --> 0:46:05.520
<v Speaker 1>are you so obsessed with him? Like he's just sort

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:07.359
<v Speaker 1>of a like average handsome guy.

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:07.799
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm.

0:46:07.960 --> 0:46:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're doing male actors. I'm I'm declaring it.

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, Okay, great, all which of your peers do you hate? Well,

0:46:17.200 --> 0:46:20.000
<v Speaker 3>you're doing what in my mind drag race, wouldn't you're

0:46:20.040 --> 0:46:22.800
<v Speaker 3>validating my status as an acting authority?

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:46:23.320 --> 0:46:27.280
<v Speaker 3>Well, or perhaps you're minting it Ooh okay.

0:46:27.040 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I think okay, So all right, there's old actors. There's

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:35.840
<v Speaker 2>like Marlon Brando, standum, and then from that like basically

0:46:35.880 --> 0:46:37.879
<v Speaker 2>anything related to the Godfather, you know what I mean,

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.239
<v Speaker 2>like Robert you know, output basically all the Italians. So

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:44.840
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a big part of like Dad actors.

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Dad's like yeah. And then there's the more contemporary, BuzzFeed

0:46:48.760 --> 0:46:53.600
<v Speaker 2>tinged sensibility of like Ryan Goslin, Yes, and and again

0:46:53.640 --> 0:46:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Paul Meskal, the Timothy Shallow, like the boy of the

0:46:59.000 --> 0:47:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Internet's boyfriend that.

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Kind of thing, you know what I mean, which that

0:47:05.000 --> 0:47:07.920
<v Speaker 1>to me is like the weirder one currently.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Well, the Internet boyfriend thing is an arc type that

0:47:14.360 --> 0:47:18.880
<v Speaker 3>is being just stated in this age that we mentioned

0:47:19.080 --> 0:47:22.560
<v Speaker 3>but I mentioned of it being unfashionable to be a man.

0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 3>This is the new minted masculinity of like I hate

0:47:27.280 --> 0:47:29.239
<v Speaker 3>to say it, but like I can't phrase it any

0:47:29.239 --> 0:47:31.880
<v Speaker 3>other way, Like in order to become an Internet boyfriend

0:47:31.920 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 3>of the week, you have to like have it stipped

0:47:34.000 --> 0:47:35.920
<v Speaker 3>on your forehead, like I'm not going to rape you.

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Like that is what it takes to be a heart throb.

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:45.279
<v Speaker 3>And is that fab right? Yes?

0:47:45.880 --> 0:47:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Wow, there is something Okay, there's something about Timothy

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Chalomy's current vibe yeh, which I do think is almost

0:47:58.800 --> 0:48:01.120
<v Speaker 1>going against internet boy friend where it is sort of

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:04.360
<v Speaker 1>being like, wait, he's being like nasty, he's.

0:48:04.239 --> 0:48:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Being toxic nasty. Yeah, he's dating Kendle. I mean it's

0:48:09.640 --> 0:48:12.120
<v Speaker 2>he sort of wants to have it both ways because

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 2>he wants to be you know, wearing the yellow suit

0:48:16.680 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>and the vest without a T shirt and be so twink,

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>but then he also wants to be dating up Kardashian

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:28.680
<v Speaker 2>and saying he wants to be the next Robert de

0:48:28.800 --> 0:48:31.719
<v Speaker 2>Niro and having the sort of almost machismo. It is

0:48:31.760 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 2>a twink. It is machismo but through a twink lens,

0:48:35.840 --> 0:48:37.800
<v Speaker 2>which actually is one of the most dangerous kinds.

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I mean this positions him to be cuge. Yeah,

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:43.080
<v Speaker 3>like I mean he is huge. He I think he's

0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:44.600
<v Speaker 3>on his way to being when it rages.

0:48:44.440 --> 0:48:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Him into being like Leo, because that's what Leo. Leo

0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:49.839
<v Speaker 2>Wasimo through a twin lens, and then he just had

0:48:49.840 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 2>to sort of age in a kind of you know,

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>we have this theory created by our friend Olivia. You

0:48:56.640 --> 0:48:59.920
<v Speaker 2>can either age dry or age wet, and Leo aged wet,

0:49:01.040 --> 0:49:03.920
<v Speaker 2>which actually gives you more gravitas.

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:05.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:06.120 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 1>And I feel that like there's something about him where

0:49:10.600 --> 0:49:14.120
<v Speaker 1>his beginning was very like I'm androgynist, I have stamped

0:49:14.120 --> 0:49:17.280
<v Speaker 1>on my forehead like I'm safe, And now it's like, oh,

0:49:17.440 --> 0:49:19.839
<v Speaker 1>he's actually been like no, actually I'm I'm actually proud

0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:20.279
<v Speaker 1>to be a man.

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:49:20.800 --> 0:49:22.399
<v Speaker 1>Actually, it's like good that I'm a man.

0:49:22.480 --> 0:49:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I think that's refreshing all this fracas.

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, there's something to it, but it is it's

0:49:29.040 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 1>like a it feels like a new it feels like

0:49:31.239 --> 0:49:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a new change in culture.

0:49:33.000 --> 0:49:34.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, honey, it's like if you're going to be

0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a man with all the options to not be a

0:49:36.760 --> 0:49:38.719
<v Speaker 3>man in front of you, like if you're going to

0:49:38.840 --> 0:49:44.120
<v Speaker 3>choose this, choose it, commit commit This is drag. I

0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:44.880
<v Speaker 3>do think we have.

0:49:45.640 --> 0:49:50.839
<v Speaker 2>There are various men that signify this transitional period between BuzzFeed,

0:49:51.360 --> 0:49:54.680
<v Speaker 2>twink and then new masculinity, and I think a big

0:49:54.760 --> 0:49:57.439
<v Speaker 2>one is Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell is someone that came

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 2>along and they actually do on him to be an

0:50:00.680 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 2>old fashioned man, but they're not ready to hard launch

0:50:03.280 --> 0:50:05.719
<v Speaker 2>that yet, so they'll make him like they're making a

0:50:05.719 --> 0:50:08.960
<v Speaker 2>little more silly and be a little more Internet's boyfriend,

0:50:09.360 --> 0:50:12.440
<v Speaker 2>you know. But then at some point he's gonna, you know,

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:13.800
<v Speaker 2>go mel Gibson.

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:17.400
<v Speaker 1>He's literally like like a little dog on a leash,

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:19.719
<v Speaker 1>right Yeah, in a way where I'm like set him

0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 1>free totally. I want to know what's bad about him?

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 3>What do you want to see from a man on screen?

0:50:25.560 --> 0:50:27.319
<v Speaker 3>Like I feel like as gay people, we don't think

0:50:27.320 --> 0:50:30.279
<v Speaker 3>about it. I know, I know, I don't care, You're right,

0:50:30.600 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 3>I don't really care. I mean, like I can think

0:50:33.719 --> 0:50:35.640
<v Speaker 3>of the exceptions to the rule. Like have you ever

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 3>seen like John Cassavetti's husbands that is male actress down

0:50:40.960 --> 0:50:44.719
<v Speaker 3>that is like, you know, masculinity like kind of like

0:50:44.840 --> 0:50:49.279
<v Speaker 3>crumbling before like Mike and Nicky. Yeah, Like I love

0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:52.560
<v Speaker 3>when it's just like the guy is becoming so much

0:50:52.600 --> 0:50:55.319
<v Speaker 3>of a guy that he's like collapsing under the weight

0:50:55.360 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 3>of how much of the guy he is, and there

0:50:57.360 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 3>it's like it's like kind of pussy.

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I love that. I need to kick

0:51:01.560 --> 0:51:04.920
<v Speaker 1>out like Adam Driver for that sometimes.

0:51:05.120 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it has to be done right.

0:51:07.160 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>It has to be done right.

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Are you saying he's not doing it right.

0:51:10.480 --> 0:51:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying that when directed correctly, such as by Limna Dunham,

0:51:13.760 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 2>he is doing it right. And I actually think it's

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:17.480
<v Speaker 2>not a coincidence that Mikey and Nicki is also directed

0:51:17.520 --> 0:51:20.600
<v Speaker 2>by women. I think that there need to be more

0:51:20.680 --> 0:51:23.000
<v Speaker 2>men directed by women in the way that you know,

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 2>men have meant not to be so feminism one oh one,

0:51:28.320 --> 0:51:31.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm writing an op ed for Mary Claire. But

0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 2>but I do think some of the great male performances

0:51:35.640 --> 0:51:38.239
<v Speaker 2>are directed by women and none of them are ever

0:51:38.320 --> 0:51:41.080
<v Speaker 2>acknowledged as like in the because everyone just wants.

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:41.680
<v Speaker 3>Francis Ford Coppola.

0:51:42.440 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Adam Driver in Girls is a better male performance

0:51:46.120 --> 0:51:49.640
<v Speaker 2>than Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenant period.

0:51:51.760 --> 0:51:52.880
<v Speaker 3>Sorry, it's true.

0:51:53.080 --> 0:51:53.960
<v Speaker 1>My empty bottle.

0:51:54.920 --> 0:52:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Do you not agree with that? I just feel as

0:52:00.560 --> 0:52:06.960
<v Speaker 3>though one is in service of something else that the

0:52:07.160 --> 0:52:11.799
<v Speaker 3>other one is not in service, And I'm forming this

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:16.360
<v Speaker 3>idea in real time. Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in the Revenant

0:52:16.800 --> 0:52:22.320
<v Speaker 3>is all about difficulty. It's all about arduousness. It's all

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 3>about like recreating freezing on the Titanic, but you're just

0:52:26.680 --> 0:52:28.399
<v Speaker 3>like freezing inside.

0:52:28.120 --> 0:52:28.480
<v Speaker 2>In a bear.

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:30.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, inside of the corpse of the bear.

0:52:32.800 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Well, where do I sign up?

0:52:37.200 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 3>And I feel as though it's about suffering alone in

0:52:42.040 --> 0:52:46.040
<v Speaker 3>the wilderness. And I feel like Adam Driver's performance and

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 3>Girls is so memorable, particularly to us, because it wasn't

0:52:51.080 --> 0:52:53.359
<v Speaker 3>just about like a certain kind of man that was recognizable.

0:52:53.400 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 3>It was like a certain kind of man in relation

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:59.440
<v Speaker 3>to a certain kind of woman. And it's yes being

0:52:59.440 --> 0:53:01.080
<v Speaker 3>directed by the had done him, but it's also like

0:53:01.280 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 3>acting off of her. And this idea that you know,

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:13.880
<v Speaker 3>this elusive, chauvinistic, magnetic, hot kind of straight guy actually

0:53:14.120 --> 0:53:18.359
<v Speaker 3>really wanted the like complicated pussy like that was like

0:53:18.560 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 3>revelatory for us. And I feel like I'm unable to

0:53:21.680 --> 0:53:26.920
<v Speaker 3>see his performance outside of the thing that I learned

0:53:27.320 --> 0:53:31.960
<v Speaker 3>about what guys want, like new guys like guys of

0:53:32.040 --> 0:53:37.960
<v Speaker 3>my generation. Once I learned it, got myself a complicated

0:53:37.960 --> 0:53:38.719
<v Speaker 3>pussy hitting.

0:53:39.680 --> 0:53:41.600
<v Speaker 2>And he taught you that you have Adam driver to

0:53:41.640 --> 0:53:43.839
<v Speaker 2>think for that for your self actualization.

0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Had Leana done him right now?

0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:47.440
<v Speaker 4>Wow?

0:53:51.680 --> 0:53:53.560
<v Speaker 1>Wait, seriously, I would love this.

0:53:54.280 --> 0:53:55.200
<v Speaker 3>No, I can't do it.

0:53:55.920 --> 0:53:58.000
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you can't use like that.

0:53:58.120 --> 0:53:59.839
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I almost did it.

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Here's my question for you. Should men only be in

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:05.239
<v Speaker 2>theater and not unscreened?

0:54:08.200 --> 0:54:11.799
<v Speaker 3>I live? You know what I mean? Well, yeah, because

0:54:12.120 --> 0:54:17.320
<v Speaker 3>the screen is like the soul, The screen is inside

0:54:17.360 --> 0:54:20.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't want to go inside right this.

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:24.040
<v Speaker 3>I want you to do something like for me at

0:54:24.120 --> 0:54:26.840
<v Speaker 3>least to me at most, And you can get that

0:54:26.880 --> 0:54:27.680
<v Speaker 3>in life performance.

0:54:27.840 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I want to see it from a safe distance,

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:31.279
<v Speaker 2>but I want to feel a little bit of a

0:54:31.280 --> 0:54:33.279
<v Speaker 2>fear of like he might come in and come out

0:54:33.280 --> 0:54:34.120
<v Speaker 2>and punch me in the face.

0:54:34.360 --> 0:54:38.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. But also like the I feel like the gaze

0:54:38.280 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 3>of theater like a z like the audience like that's

0:54:44.600 --> 0:54:48.160
<v Speaker 3>cruel in one way. In the gaze of the camera

0:54:48.320 --> 0:54:50.479
<v Speaker 3>is cruel. In another way, I think the cruel gaze

0:54:50.480 --> 0:54:54.720
<v Speaker 3>of the camera brings something like really cool out of women.

0:54:54.840 --> 0:54:57.800
<v Speaker 3>But it's also like a gaze that women are trained

0:54:57.800 --> 0:55:00.719
<v Speaker 3>and conditioned to exist under, which is why like gay

0:55:00.760 --> 0:55:08.040
<v Speaker 3>guys love actresses because they just do it. But I

0:55:08.080 --> 0:55:10.200
<v Speaker 3>think that men can sort of function in a similar

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 3>way under the gaze of theater because it's not like

0:55:15.120 --> 0:55:18.480
<v Speaker 3>an institutional like gays that you could write about and like,

0:55:18.520 --> 0:55:20.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, the cultural criticism of like you know, like

0:55:20.920 --> 0:55:22.640
<v Speaker 3>the male gaze, Like it's like this, it's the thing

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.879
<v Speaker 3>that exists everywhere, like the theater one. It's like we're

0:55:25.920 --> 0:55:29.399
<v Speaker 3>all just here now looking at you. And you're a guy,

0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and you're supposed to be a leader, and you're supposed

0:55:31.960 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 3>to deliver, and you're supposed to you know, make the

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:36.400
<v Speaker 3>people come together. What are you going to do right now?

0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Impress us? I feel like guys can do something special

0:55:40.520 --> 0:55:43.840
<v Speaker 3>with that, and I want to see them do it. Yeah.

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:47.960
<v Speaker 2>I also think there's something about, Okay, we give women

0:55:48.440 --> 0:55:50.920
<v Speaker 2>just this small screen and they can make a world

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 2>out of it. Like it's like I could do you know,

0:55:53.280 --> 0:55:55.279
<v Speaker 2>a close up of Cape Blanchette and she's doing so

0:55:55.360 --> 0:55:57.400
<v Speaker 2>much with her eyes on her face and whatever. And

0:55:57.440 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 2>then with men, it's like the stage like them being

0:56:01.040 --> 0:56:03.680
<v Speaker 2>on in public and taking up space.

0:56:03.840 --> 0:56:05.600
<v Speaker 3>That's what they want. Like it's more of like a sport.

0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:07.840
<v Speaker 2>It's more of like a yeah, it's more of a sport. Yeah,

0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And you want to see them just like take up,

0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.040
<v Speaker 2>go high, go wide.

0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:13.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's their drag queen.

0:56:14.920 --> 0:56:17.920
<v Speaker 3>But that's what men used to do on screen before

0:56:18.360 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 3>Marlon Brando. Yeah, before Marlon Brando. We're like see like

0:56:25.400 --> 0:56:28.120
<v Speaker 3>we had like there was like this element of like

0:56:28.320 --> 0:56:31.319
<v Speaker 3>male drag. But you know, Marlon Renno is the one

0:56:31.360 --> 0:56:32.600
<v Speaker 3>that kind of like you know, just like brought it

0:56:32.600 --> 0:56:34.560
<v Speaker 3>all down to this naturalism thing and like changed the

0:56:34.560 --> 0:56:36.799
<v Speaker 3>way people saw acting and created a whole new set

0:56:36.840 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 3>of expectations for like, hey everyone, but be like specifically

0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.239
<v Speaker 3>the guys. It's like if you give me nothing, you

0:56:43.320 --> 0:56:48.160
<v Speaker 3>are giving me everything. That's like and we are still

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 3>kind of under that rock. I mean, I think I

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:53.680
<v Speaker 3>read this thing about Nick Cage how he just like

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 3>doesn't do that, and like that's why he's amazing. He's

0:56:56.960 --> 0:56:58.640
<v Speaker 3>like he's a male actress.

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:00.000
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was gonna bring him up.

0:57:00.040 --> 0:57:02.399
<v Speaker 3>One long legs. A girl don't even get heard about

0:57:02.400 --> 0:57:07.400
<v Speaker 3>long legs. Her crossy team. We need to long legs.

0:57:07.520 --> 0:57:12.800
<v Speaker 3>There needs to be an investigation, investigation and transvestigation investigation. Yeah, legs,

0:57:13.520 --> 0:57:17.760
<v Speaker 3>you want to talk about silicon in a phase? Bitch?

0:57:18.400 --> 0:57:20.400
<v Speaker 1>That movie I felt so gas lip by sort of

0:57:20.400 --> 0:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the entire world.

0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:22.600
<v Speaker 2>I completely agree.

0:57:22.600 --> 0:57:26.240
<v Speaker 3>Well, okay, this maybe this is straight culture. There's this

0:57:26.280 --> 0:57:28.640
<v Speaker 3>new thing I feel like in horror movies and other

0:57:28.720 --> 0:57:31.280
<v Speaker 3>things where it's like, no, like the devil is real,

0:57:31.640 --> 0:57:34.040
<v Speaker 3>like like like dark magic is real, Like this is

0:57:34.040 --> 0:57:37.720
<v Speaker 3>actually not a story about like you know, a man's

0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:40.960
<v Speaker 3>curdling insanity in a basement or yes, and the devil

0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>is also real, like yeah. I watched it with Ludwig,

0:57:44.280 --> 0:57:46.560
<v Speaker 3>my boyfriend, and I turned him after and I was like, okay, wait,

0:57:46.560 --> 0:57:49.920
<v Speaker 3>so he was a bioterrorist, like like like the black

0:57:50.320 --> 0:57:53.959
<v Speaker 3>powder smoke coming out of the head of the doll

0:57:54.320 --> 0:58:00.240
<v Speaker 3>was like anthrax that makes people kill people, like it's

0:58:00.240 --> 0:58:06.080
<v Speaker 3>the devil. I could not accept. Yeah, I just it's

0:58:06.120 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 3>not a part of my part of.

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:17.320
<v Speaker 2>It's stories. I So I felt this way with The

0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:19.360
<v Speaker 2>Witch and with Hereditary, where I was like, wait a minute,

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:23.000
<v Speaker 2>after all that, and listen, I'm great films. Okay, well, Hereditary,

0:58:23.040 --> 0:58:27.720
<v Speaker 2>I stand listen, I great again, great films. Talk about

0:58:27.720 --> 0:58:30.560
<v Speaker 2>an actress Tony you I am your mother.

0:58:30.880 --> 0:58:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing.

0:58:31.880 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 2>I'd like to see dstin Hoffman do that, but I yeah,

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:38.760
<v Speaker 2>don't come for him.

0:58:39.840 --> 0:58:40.720
<v Speaker 3>Not to say, Honey?

0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Did say was sort of the long legs of her generation.

0:58:45.640 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and the Devil made him do it.

0:58:47.720 --> 0:58:51.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but didn't you expect both the Witch and Hereditary

0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that there would be some heightened that it wouldn't just

0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:55.120
<v Speaker 2>be literally about No.

0:58:55.120 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>You're right, there's like it's like get out of jail

0:58:57.080 --> 0:58:58.880
<v Speaker 1>free card in a way where you're like, Okay, let's

0:58:58.880 --> 0:59:01.320
<v Speaker 1>do another draft, like let's find a real just hi.

0:59:01.720 --> 0:59:03.240
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like I don't mind it in a

0:59:03.280 --> 0:59:06.840
<v Speaker 3>classic like the Extor Sister Rosemary's Baby, it just has

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:10.560
<v Speaker 3>to be done with so much glamour and so much

0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:16.160
<v Speaker 3>precision and so such good writing that, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>have to write better than the Bible, Honey, in order

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<v Speaker 3>to really get it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, miss ari Astor, you have to write better than

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<v Speaker 2>the Bible, girl.

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<v Speaker 3>Now I know. I listen. I'm actually did you see

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<v Speaker 3>the trailer for her new movie?

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<v Speaker 2>I no, I haven't, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>I should. I have very high expectations of our master,

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<v Speaker 3>and I am really excited that he's coming out with

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<v Speaker 3>a movie that takes place in twenty twenty. Because I've

0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:45.560
<v Speaker 3>been sitting here like since twenty twenty, being like when

0:59:45.680 --> 0:59:48.320
<v Speaker 3>are we gonna Why is no Budy? I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>now about twenty twenty.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a pandemic movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's it's very much about like I don't actually

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<v Speaker 3>know the plot, but based on the trailer, it's like

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<v Speaker 3>somebody scrolling in twenty twenty. It was Joaquin Phoenix scrolling

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty, and it's like Emma Stone and.

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<v Speaker 2>Dro Pascal's very like this because I did say one

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<v Speaker 2>screenshot that's like, you know, some influencer posting about like

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty protests or something. Yeah, like it's like making

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<v Speaker 2>fun of that sort of the air of cancelation of

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<v Speaker 2>that summer, and you know, we were all in a

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<v Speaker 2>dark place.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we don't have to talk about it right here,

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<v Speaker 3>but like somebody, like somebody so like lyrically misanthropic as

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<v Speaker 3>Ariasca could actually do something. Yeah, And I'm kind of sacked.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm also just kind of saying this because like there's

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<v Speaker 3>a twenty twenty movie that like me and a friend

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<v Speaker 3>were really like adapting from something and like kind of

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<v Speaker 3>working on and we sort of like soft trotted it

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<v Speaker 3>out a little bit. But this was in like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty two, and it was just resolutely like, the girls

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<v Speaker 3>are not ready for twenty twenty. The girls are not

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<v Speaker 3>ready to go back, And I'm curious if a really

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<v Speaker 3>cool film could take the scales on that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do think it's gonna happen. It's like when people

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<v Speaker 2>started making post nine to eleven movies.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's still I feel like, like, what's a good

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<v Speaker 1>nine to eleven movie?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, unfortunately all of them flopped. Well a good nine

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<v Speaker 2>eleven movie is Margarette, but all of them? Yes, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>Who's gonna make the Margarette of Covid of like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty at covid?

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<v Speaker 3>Because that is what I want to see. Kenneth Lonergan,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry for calling you stride it.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you seen it?

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<v Speaker 3>No, It's like one of my favorite movies. Oh watch

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<v Speaker 3>the three and a half hour director's cut. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>I went up to I don't do this. I went

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<v Speaker 3>up to end UPAC went at the Vanity for Oscar Party,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was just like, Margaret is one of my

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<v Speaker 3>favorite movies. Don't go up to a celebrity and say

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<v Speaker 3>something like that unless you're sure it's something that they

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<v Speaker 3>don't hear every day, Yeah, because they will live if

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<v Speaker 3>like you have the thing that they don't hear every day,

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<v Speaker 3>if you do, you know, was.

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<v Speaker 2>She happy to hear that from you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's nice, heaven, It's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I wanna. I'm like, I want to get

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<v Speaker 2>to a grand theory of male acting because I do

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<v Speaker 2>think this is such a rich topic.

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<v Speaker 1>Well okay, yeah, I think part of the issue is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's like they're almost there as the they're like

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<v Speaker 1>a set piece, like it's less of a like it

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<v Speaker 1>does feel like they are the the ground and for

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<v Speaker 1>the actress to.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we're saying a genius because here's okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you see a poster for a movie, okay, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>all men in suits and then one woman in like

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<v Speaker 2>a low cut dress. The conventional critique of that is like,

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<v Speaker 2>look at fucking Hollywood. They it's all men and there's

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<v Speaker 2>so funerals for women, which of course I get. But

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<v Speaker 2>what I see is that everyone else is a set

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a one woman show.

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<v Speaker 3>We're featuring other featuring.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like it's her it's like American Hustle, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's Jennifer Lawrence. It's time for her to basically have

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<v Speaker 2>a variety of interactions with men that are kind of

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<v Speaker 2>like wooden and like don't say much, and then it's

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<v Speaker 2>time for her to be like listen to me, little boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then her doing that over this just like

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<v Speaker 3>Sunday morning that it doesn't sound much fun for the

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<v Speaker 3>male actors. Is it that they exact so much that

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I do wonder that. I'm like, it seems so

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<v Speaker 2>much more fun to be an actress than That's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Leo, it's sort of an actress. He's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>will do a movie with a bear totally because I

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<v Speaker 1>can't have I can't be background for an actress.

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<v Speaker 2>Which actors are actresses?

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<v Speaker 3>Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cage, it's literally like name an actor.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Sebastian Stan. Sure, I think Sebastian Stan is an actress.

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<v Speaker 3>Her snatch game in a different man. Yeah, did you

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<v Speaker 3>see that was tight? I did not know that was

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<v Speaker 3>she in the prosthetiques. I could not she was.

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<v Speaker 2>How a soulka clock. She was being so long legs

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<v Speaker 2>in that film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, clearly, like delights in versatility, like like she delights

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<v Speaker 3>in okay, playing a range, what are you taking me?

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<v Speaker 1>Strong?

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<v Speaker 3>This is tough because it's like she has a complicated,

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<v Speaker 3>fractured subjectivity that is actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yes, exactly, that's true. Okay, Yeah, she's giving and

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<v Speaker 1>she's torn apart in the media.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course, so it's like many women.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I oh, do you know who lars Ideger is? No,

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<v Speaker 3>he's like he's like eure Vian like he does like

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<v Speaker 3>art movies in theater and I'm sorry, no, no, this

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<v Speaker 3>is super but like if you saw him, you would

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<v Speaker 3>like recognize his face. He does do some Hollywood he

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<v Speaker 3>was in like the of that. Oh as like the

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<v Speaker 3>actors he's crazy, okay, favorite actors.

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<v Speaker 2>Being written a note being.

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<v Speaker 1>Written a note?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh oh, or now that's interesting slic.

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<v Speaker 1>Mickey note.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, long legs are sort of reheating. Make your works,

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<v Speaker 3>not make your work?

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I think? Okay, do you think make your work?

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<v Speaker 2>In the wrestler was being actor or actress?

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen it.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it either, So George, what do you

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<v Speaker 1>think you're the only Also do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Think Darren Aronofsky is a male or female director.

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<v Speaker 3>Female for making Black Swan male, basing it off of

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<v Speaker 3>perfect blue snatches period.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what what gender? Mother?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, what gender? You? Okay? Mother, go well this

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<v Speaker 3>is a sidebar, mother, No I can't. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I just love Jennifer Lards just like just like like,

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<v Speaker 3>well baby, like that's the vibe. Yeah, yeah, that engrossing.

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<v Speaker 2>The sink when when her sink is embraced, do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember that's a big part of it is people keep

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<v Speaker 2>breaking her sink, keep heap sitting on the sink and

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<v Speaker 2>breaking it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean nothing, but that's talk top Kristen Wiggs performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, I forgot about Christmas. Oh my god, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what a what a beautiful performance.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, no, I'm trying to think of male actresses. I'm trying.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's it's so tough.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really put you on the spot, and we really put.

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<v Speaker 1>You on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>Huge Jackman. Oh you know that's more complicated. Hugh Jackman's

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<v Speaker 2>relationship to gender and sexuality is something we are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to speak out about.

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<v Speaker 3>Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>Although now I do actually think he's in love with

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<v Speaker 2>Sutton Foster.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you think he actually is? Yes, Okay, mystery solved.

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<v Speaker 3>Misjeff Manning, I think.

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<v Speaker 1>But his okay, Like, what's weird about him? Is playing

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<v Speaker 1>Wolverine for so long?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Jake Joenhall is an actress. Oh sure, I

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<v Speaker 2>think Jake Jollen Hall and like oak Ja, I think

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<v Speaker 2>Jake Jillen Hall in Uh and Prisoners, Like he's not

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<v Speaker 2>afraid to emote and he's not afraid to go full

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Lawrence and.

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<v Speaker 1>Mother Well, and when he is playing like a really

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<v Speaker 1>masculine man, it like reminds me of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when Demi Moore shaves her head, yes or whatever. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm like, wow, he he can even be a man,

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<v Speaker 1>like I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 3>Adrian Brodie gave actress and the Brutalist and he gave

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<v Speaker 3>actress winning for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, yeah that was so actress coded. No I live? Yeah? No?

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<v Speaker 3>Literally, why are all penises prosthetics?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I know?

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<v Speaker 1>Started like what happened to Bravery?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever happened to Cock? What I'm the wrong person?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever happened to unreal Cock?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm literally like why is it illegal to show a

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<v Speaker 1>real dick on screen?

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<v Speaker 2>And also it's like, okay, you don't want to show it,

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<v Speaker 2>don't show it, don't don't mess with me. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to like write, I'm not going to complain if

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<v Speaker 2>there's no cock in a film.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, it's not okay. But do you think that

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<v Speaker 3>they're making the prosthetics for the actors like their cock

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<v Speaker 3>sight unseen or do you think they're Is it like

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<v Speaker 3>a weird part of casting where they're like looking at

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<v Speaker 3>the actor and being like, this is the cock.

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<v Speaker 1>No, they are making gigantic cocks just left and right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they are not They are not trying. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>going for realism at all. They're going for Humphrey Bogart,

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<v Speaker 1>not Marlon Brando when it comes to their cock prosthetics

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<v Speaker 1>and it's kissing me. There's also this.

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<v Speaker 2>Lack of uh, it's like not interacting with the actual

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<v Speaker 2>reality of what flaccid versus erect looks like, what a

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<v Speaker 2>cock in repose looks like.

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, have you guys seen this before? Like

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<v Speaker 1>they don't look like that.

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<v Speaker 2>It's actually sort of the opposite of you know, men

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<v Speaker 2>not being able to write women and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>doing some I don't know, being like, oh, she she's

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<v Speaker 2>on her period or something. It's like why, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>if everyone involved is a man, why don't they know

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<v Speaker 2>what a penis?

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<v Speaker 3>And like, shouldn't somebody having a huge cock be like

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<v Speaker 3>dramaturgically informed in the character. I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>huge cocks are rare, and huge cock personalities are rare,

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<v Speaker 3>and I feel like the vibe of all of these

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<v Speaker 3>huge cock prosthetics are like, well, this is what they

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<v Speaker 3>want to see, Like we want to see a huge cock,

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<v Speaker 3>but like, I don't know, Like Drew Starky's character in Queer,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, is that really like a huge cock character? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Like I mean, I get that he's like sexually desirable,

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<v Speaker 3>but like I love, I love the idea that the

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<v Speaker 3>sexual obsession that you know, Craig's character has for this

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<v Speaker 3>character could exist for somebody with like a normal cock,

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<v Speaker 3>for even a small cock, because it's not about the cock,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about the straight Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say that is one of the major flaws

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<v Speaker 2>in that film is that he is written as having

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<v Speaker 2>a medium to small cock, like in the book or

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<v Speaker 2>in the film, just like the character is written as

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<v Speaker 2>having a medium to small cock, and that is the

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<v Speaker 2>effect he would have on a Daniel Craig I actually

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<v Speaker 2>think Daniel Craig would be like put like it's afraid

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<v Speaker 2>of a larger cock. Yes, in fact in reality, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, speaking of giant Cox, Willem Dafoe is an actress.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh great, great point.

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<v Speaker 3>I was across the Delta one aisle from him, flying

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<v Speaker 3>to la for Oscar weekend, and I really just like

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to say something, but I could not summon the

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<v Speaker 3>like deep cut. I literally looked at my letter box

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<v Speaker 3>watch and I couldn't. Like I thought about being like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh like I watched Anti Christ like alone in my

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<v Speaker 3>living room at like eleven thirty PM when I was fourteen,

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<v Speaker 3>during that period where I was watching scary movies to

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<v Speaker 3>try to desensitize myself from fear of the dark, like

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<v Speaker 3>I you know, thought about but I just couldn't because

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<v Speaker 3>I respect him so much. And then I didn't shoot

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<v Speaker 3>my shot. And yeah, I may never get that chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you will.

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<v Speaker 3>One time when I was when I was at school,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like the Colubia Quad. I was like walking

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<v Speaker 3>to like my morning class at like eight am, and

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<v Speaker 3>he was sitting on the steps of the library with

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<v Speaker 3>a coffee like in the sun with his eyes closed.

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<v Speaker 3>It was just really sweet.

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<v Speaker 2>That's actress behavior.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't say anything then, and I didn't say anything

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<v Speaker 3>the second time, but like, well he's a listener, so

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<v Speaker 3>if you want to send him the message really actually,

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<v Speaker 3>Willem Defoe, thanks beautiful, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>There's something so Lana del Ray lyric coded about saying

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<v Speaker 1>I was sitting across from him in the Delta one lounge, and.

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<v Speaker 3>Sitting across from the Delta one lounge is the men

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<v Speaker 3>in Hollywood business?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, should we do our final thing?

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<v Speaker 2>We have to, even though all I want is to

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<v Speaker 2>keep talking. I know, I mean to bring up Antichrist

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<v Speaker 2>within a conversation about cox and prosthetics, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>can't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you Have you seen Anti Christ?

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<v Speaker 2>There is full a close up of penetration, but they

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<v Speaker 2>used porn actors to film it, even though Willem Defoe

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<v Speaker 2>very famously has a very large penis.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is like a sort of Hollywood lore.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, and I want to shout out to

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<v Speaker 1>Lars Montreer for Niphomaniac showing you know that watched with

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<v Speaker 1>my stepdad and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, that was a lot of real talks, and

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<v Speaker 1>I said, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, shout out to the Dogma movement. We're doing that

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<v Speaker 2>for podcasting, so we get it.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, the way that I was guarded for Nifomniac

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<v Speaker 1>one and two, I was like, I am I'm sad.

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<v Speaker 2>You know on what Uma Thurman? There's no time. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>Uma Thurman is actress being actor being actress, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not going to elaborate on that.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's later, Victoria. Yeah, no, it's lon And Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>should we do our final sag?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what is the Joe DiDio quote.

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<v Speaker 3>That it's not a part of my world?

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<v Speaker 1>Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Our final segment was called shout Outs, and in this

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<v Speaker 1>segment we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of

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<v Speaker 1>the radio shout out, shouting out to anything people place

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<v Speaker 1>these things ideas just something that we like and I

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<v Speaker 1>can we make them up on the spot, George, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a part of that.

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<v Speaker 2>We make them up on the spot.

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<v Speaker 1>Kick us off.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to give a shout.

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<v Speaker 2>Out to Checkof's string cheese.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>You know everyone's been wondering is it going to be

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<v Speaker 2>eaten by the end of the episode, because that is

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<v Speaker 2>of course what check Off string Cheese means. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>here to tell you that I'm going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>huge bite Lady Gaga style on air. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely delicious. Thank you so much for everyone that has

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<v Speaker 2>made this moment possible.

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<v Speaker 3>And shout out to string Trees.

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly one of the most underrated an accident not.

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<v Speaker 1>Underrated by me, right in the top five. I go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what's up, presuchs and perverts around the globe. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give a huge shout out to the raw sensuality

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<v Speaker 1>of riding a New York subway and seeing someone across

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<v Speaker 1>the train and be like, oh, let's try to make

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<v Speaker 1>eyes and then be like, what am I doing? I'm

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<v Speaker 1>running link my podcast? Why am I making eyes a

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<v Speaker 1>stranger across the subway? And then be like, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>New York and anything can happen. And I was feeling yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I was running late, but when I eventually found peace,

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<v Speaker 1>and I said, but you know, at least I seeing

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<v Speaker 1>someone hot in this train, and that changes so much

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<v Speaker 1>for Ondes day. And you know, in LA you don't

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<v Speaker 1>see anyone hot because they're in cars, and here you

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<v Speaker 1>see people who are hot every damn second, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost overwhelming. So I want to give a huge shout

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<v Speaker 1>out to that feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Whoa you know where you don't see people who are hot?

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<v Speaker 1>Where?

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<v Speaker 3>All right, ladies, gentlemen say them's and germs and everyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to shout out to Midtown in the middle

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<v Speaker 3>of the morning. It is always two thousand and four.

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<v Speaker 3>You are in Tyra Banks's New York. You are inside

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<v Speaker 3>of Heidi Clewtman, Tim Blanks's New York. You are on

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<v Speaker 3>your Suddenly I see Andy Sacks. You have somewhere to be.

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<v Speaker 3>You are in a hat, you are drinking coffee out

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<v Speaker 3>of a blue Greek coffee club, and you are on Broadway.

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<v Speaker 3>How dare the diners are open? Pods in the diners? Wow?

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<v Speaker 3>That was stunning.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Harry, thank you so much for doing

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<v Speaker 1>the pod. This has been a real true This has.

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<v Speaker 2>Been an absolute delight. Thank you for uh being gracious

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<v Speaker 2>with us being late. Thank you for bringing literally upwards

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<v Speaker 2>of twelve topics. Thank you for doing Joan Didion as share.

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<v Speaker 1>That was really inspired. And if that doesn't get you

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<v Speaker 1>drag race, then like someone's head will roll, Hi, I cannot.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually, I'm actually so annoyed that that that you

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<v Speaker 2>have not been on Dragon.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there's just no justice in this time.

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<v Speaker 3>No. I but I have so much respect for like

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<v Speaker 3>rupe Paul's sensibility and like the people that like enter

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<v Speaker 3>Rupeaul's algorithm, Like I know that I have not entered that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't want to be on there till I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I earned it.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait until she sees a real an Instagram reel of

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<v Speaker 2>you doing Joe Didion as share because that phone is going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be ringing. Mama, I don't know. Get your ass

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<v Speaker 3>to Midtown for another blowout.

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<v Speaker 1>Girls, it's not Susie too, it's saying your cerebral.

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<v Speaker 3>Sasha bealor before her. Well, yes, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 3>for having me. I am promoting absolutely nothing right, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a huge shout out. I mean, you know there are secrets,

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<v Speaker 3>but I can't. There's a secret.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always secrets, and if you're in the no keep

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<v Speaker 2>being the lookout for those secrets.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, follow me?

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