1 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Podcast starts now, Hello, we are coming at you live 2 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: from New York City, where we are roughly one half 3 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: hour late, which is so. 4 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: So being gas lit because both of us saw major 5 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 2: train delays that were allegedly citywide. We get here thinking, oh, 6 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 2: everyone's going to be late. They are major citywide train delays. 7 00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: We get here, everyone is. 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: Here, everyone's fine, everyone's sitting around with. 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: Both of us coming from different places, are both late. 10 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: Well, we were targeted. 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: I do think do you think it's part of Trump's 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,319 Speaker 2: terror related actions? Of course he is saying we are 13 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 2: doing no more in studio gay podcasting in this new 14 00:00:58,160 --> 00:00:59,639 Speaker 2: era of America. 15 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: You silence of the A podcasters, you silence truth. 16 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: Well, I do think that's actually there's something to that, 17 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: because if you think about it, you know, we're sort 18 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: of the bottom of the totem pole. 19 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 3: Start with us. 20 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,560 Speaker 2: It's kind of like starting with public universities and working 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 2: her way up to Harvard. You know, we are kind 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 2: of like the test subject of all State. Yeah, and 23 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 2: then you know, next thing, you know, where's Michelle Obama's podcast? 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: Wow? 25 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 2: Why isn't she talking to Sofia Bush about being empowered? 26 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: It's so nice to refer to ourselves as the bottom 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 1: of the zone pole. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 3: Well, you know, of. 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 1: Course I feel I have to say. You know, last 30 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: night I was I was, I mean New York, and 31 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,600 Speaker 1: I was like, God, New York is just like Paris. 32 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 1: Never been to Paris, but still the sentiment was there. 33 00:01:42,120 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: And then today I'm like, you know what, I needed this. 34 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: I needed to be like brought down a few pegs 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: because by the subway, by the subway, because I was 36 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: really like, what am I doing with my life? 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 38 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: And now here I am a half hour late, sweaty 39 00:01:54,640 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: as hell. 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: I mean, there really is very seeing me about being humbled. 41 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: There's nothing like running twenty minutes late and then texting 42 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 2: is there a food in the office because I haven't 43 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 2: had breakfast and being told yeah, there is a single 44 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 2: string cheese. There you go, there's a string cheese. 45 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I actually really respected that you asked. 46 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: That, and I am now I'm in this dilemma. If 47 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: you're not watching on video, I'm holding the string cheese. 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 2: It is check off string cheese, and it might be 49 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: eaten by the end of the episode, or it might not. 50 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: I think you should have why didn't you eat it 51 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 1: before recording? 52 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: Because there is something about admitting defeat. You know what 53 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 2: it is. It's like, imagine I'm Lady Gaga okay, and 54 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 2: I'm running late, and I'm saying, is there anything there? 55 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 2: And they give me one string cheese? Would Lady Gaga 56 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: eat the string cheese? 57 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Yes, this logic game is not working for no. She 58 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: would say, well, she would eat it in three bites. 59 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: She wouldn't string it, she'd eat it in three bites. 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: She would eat it in one bite because might Donna 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 2: a documentary style? She would say truth or dare say 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: truth or dare put this string cheese in your mouth 63 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 2: one fucking bite. 64 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: I think I think you should have eaten it. I 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: think Lady guy I would have eaten it. I think 66 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: Madonna would have gagged upon it. Yeah. I think if 67 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: I think there's something about you know, being so in 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,680 Speaker 1: need where then you have to perform how needy you 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 1: were when you get here, or you almost need to 70 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 1: scarf at and be like God, I was about to die. 71 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 2: Here's what so okay related to this, h Here's what 72 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: I'm struggling with. Obviously we're late, and obviously we're talent. 73 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Now you're now you're forced. Now you're forced to decide 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: are you going to be so apologetic and humble or 75 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 2: are you going to walk in and pretend nothing happened 76 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 2: and say this is how I operate? 77 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: Well, what did you do? I missed your entry because. 78 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: I have I was apologetic. I will, but I stopped 79 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: myself from being overly apologetic because I think there was 80 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: a way I could have debased myself further. And I said, no, no, 81 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 2: you host an iHeart podcast, bitch, You host an iHeart 82 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 2: podcast and you have a free string cheese on your 83 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 2: person that you could eat it at any point. You 84 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: know what I did, and it's tax deductible. 85 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Okay, First of all, I also apologize, huh, But I also, 86 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: you know, tastefully not overboards that would have been so 87 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: bad that would have made it their problem. Not fine, 88 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: But I I had a half drank coffee and I 89 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: threw it away on the way in because I didn't want. 90 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 2: To want to walk in late with a coffee. Yeah, yeah, totally, 91 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, that's enough coffee. I want to 92 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: get our guests taken on this whole debacle. 93 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: I can't wait to hear our guests perspective on this 94 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: entire debacle. 95 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: I have to say, we have been trying to get 96 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 2: this girl on. I feel almost like when we had 97 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 2: Kathy Griffin on, and not only because they're both ladies 98 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 2: in comedy that are not afraid to speak out about 99 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 2: Donald Trump. 100 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:43,679 Speaker 1: That's right, That's very. 101 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 2: True, because they were both no, no, she's not all 102 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: to speak yet, but because they have, they are both 103 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,720 Speaker 2: people that have been like screamed for on the on 104 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: the discord, on the and the messages we're getting. Yeah, 105 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 2: I'm When we did the pull, who do you want 106 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 2: to see on the pod? This person ranked above Lady Gaga, 107 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 2: all three, him, sisters, all three, all three, because there 108 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 2: were submissions for even Yeah, there were submissions for him, 109 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 2: and then there were multiple submissions for just st because 110 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,280 Speaker 2: of course she's the comedian of the trio. So please welcome, actress, writer, model, 111 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 2: beautiful hair. Have Harry NEPV. 112 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: Hi boy, Hi, So Harry. How are we doing so far? Yeah, 113 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: you're doing great. I feel like you walked in late 114 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 3: and you apologized from a place of power. I feel 115 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 3: as though it's fine. I feel as though I was 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 3: in Midtown at eight thirty am today to get a 117 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 3: dry bar at Nordstrom, and I went to a whole 118 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 3: diner before I got here, I got the New Yorker 119 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: breakfast special at the Brooklyn Diner. Oh so that's who 120 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: I am today. But you relate and that's who you 121 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 3: are today. And I'll hold that again. 122 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 2: Are you mourning? Are you a morning diva? 123 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm always in mourning. 124 00:05:59,160 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: Are you in mourning? 125 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, grief is just a part of grief is a. 126 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 2: Part of life. 127 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: I'm in morning for my life, totally speak of chekop string. 128 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so when you're when you arrive and they 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 1: say they're running, lay tell us what's going through your mind? 130 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 2: What's going through your mind? Walk us through that. 131 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,239 Speaker 3: No, I already told George, like, somebody owes me something 132 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 3: like I've won. Like you are going to be apologetic. 133 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: You are going to lay it on a little thicker. 134 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: You are going to act like you owe me something 135 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 3: and you do. Yeah. Wow, it's great for me. 136 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 2: The thing is that's how I would feel too, because 137 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: you think I feel you think as the person apologizing 138 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 2: that you're in the that you're like humiliated and have 139 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 2: something to prove, and it's like you're just giving the 140 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 2: other person a gift of being in power in that 141 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 2: social situation. 142 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: What, George, I have to tell you something. I have 143 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,680 Speaker 1: to come clean about something. Normally, I'm the one that's 144 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: like five minutes early, and you're the one that's like 145 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,159 Speaker 1: five to ten minutes late, and you know me in 146 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:02,680 Speaker 1: the squad here sort of look at each other and 147 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: go Wednesday, get here today, and we get to have 148 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: this amazing little vibe, this connection, and I get to 149 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: have this power. And today it's been stripped away from 150 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: me in such a huge way, and I'm having an 151 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: identity crisis because of it. 152 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: That is one of the most shocking things you'd ever. 153 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: And even when I walked in I had to look 154 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: at everyone in the eyes and say, like, you guys know, 155 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: it's not normally like this. 156 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 3: How would I know? 157 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's true, And that's true. You would have 158 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: no way of knowing. So that's kind of funny. A 159 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: little peak behind the curtain. 160 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 3: It's okay, I forgive you. Why are you It's over. 161 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: It's over. It's over. 162 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,679 Speaker 2: Punishment is over, and we are back in power. 163 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I have a new topic. 164 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 2: Okay, what's the new topic? 165 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: Okay, Today I've decided to wear white jeans. 166 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Uh huh, what do you think about white jeans power 167 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: move resort, It's it's wealth. 168 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 3: It's like dirt will not be smirched me. I am 169 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: not in the dirt. My hands are not getting dirty, 170 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 3: neither on my legs. I'm white jeans. Yeah, and I 171 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: think it's even more bold and powerful before Memorial Day, Diva, Like, 172 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:31,160 Speaker 3: is that the thing like Memorial Day to Labor Day 173 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 3: is like when it's permissible to wear white bottoms. 174 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 2: But that's the only time when it's okay to be 175 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 2: a white bottom. 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,199 Speaker 3: How do you feel about white bottoms? 177 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's complicated obviously because it is my community, 178 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 2: but I definitely feel like they've had enough time in 179 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 2: the sun. Really yeah wow, But I here's what I 180 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 2: think though, that don't you think that saying the whole 181 00:08:56,160 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 2: Memorial Day to Labor Day thing is now so passe 182 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: that it's almost like it's more of a power move 183 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,719 Speaker 2: to wear it outside of that. 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 3: No, because I love rules, I love clothes rules. We 185 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: have been stuck in the TikTok algorithm of finding your 186 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: personal style. And everybody is beauty, everybody is fashion, every core. 187 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: Is bring back shoes have to match the belt? 188 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, bring back Dogma baby. 189 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: I said, this is one of our friends, and I 190 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: bet you can guess who based on the response. I 191 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: was like, he was trying to dress me, and I 192 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: was like, well, this is kind of weird, Like aren't 193 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: the shoes supposed to match the belt? And he's like, 194 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't fucking care what you learned on what not 195 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,960 Speaker 1: to wear in two thousand and three, like you don't 196 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: have to follow any of that. 197 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Speaker 3: Well. 198 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 2: I do think, though, Harry is right that it's like 199 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 2: things have gone so far in the other direction that 200 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 2: we need to rein it back and everyone has to 201 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 2: actually look like a route floor and ad we actually 202 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 2: just like three years to get back on track. 203 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Arisa, Yeah yeah, it's like going on the 204 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,439 Speaker 1: Brat diet style. 205 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 2: It's exactly like that. 206 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 3: I don't know about belt to shoes, but purse to 207 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: bag yeah, oh no, purse to shoes. 208 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: Shoe no, No matching no. 209 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: Never. 210 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 2: I didn't even know. Is that do you have to 211 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 2: Was that a rule that you had to match or 212 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 2: purse to your shoe? 213 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: No? But I think it's something that is done. I 214 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 3: see it. 215 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: It's Upper Eastside lady, yeah, or like I don't know 216 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: where that's I've never done it. 217 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: I actually I'm having a memory of trying to do 218 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: it once and having maybe like an elder queen or 219 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 3: an elder girl or someone really severe who I looked 220 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 3: up to, very severely and furiously punished me for that. 221 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: The first time I ever went out and heels, it 222 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 3: was like a Jeffrey campbellita, you know, like twenty eleven. 223 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 3: I was outside the but I was fighting for my life. 224 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: I was leaning against a brick wall having a cigarette. 225 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 3: I could barely stand. And this drag queen sees it. 226 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 3: She cocks me, and she goes, don't let them see 227 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 3: you take your shoes off. 228 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,679 Speaker 2: Oh my god, to be caught, for her to know 229 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 2: you were in pain just by the way you were 230 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 2: leaning on the wall. 231 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: Do not take them USh, do not take your shoes off. 232 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,600 Speaker 3: And I have taken that so to heart. I think 233 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: it is disgusting when the girls do that at weddings 234 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 3: about Vitzma's. It's unlady like, it's unseemly. 235 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 2: What do you think of girl having sneakers in her 236 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: bag and putting them on at the after party. 237 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, who wants to have shoes in 238 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 3: their bag? 239 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 2: Right? 240 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: Those shoes are on the ground, they're inside of your purse, 241 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 3: your toe. Yeah. 242 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 2: This is actually something I noticed when I first sorry 243 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 2: moved to America is that American people when they pack, 244 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 2: will just put a toothbrush loose with their shoes in 245 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 2: their in their bag. 246 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? 247 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: Well, I don't makes my toothbrush with my shoes, but 248 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,320 Speaker 1: I will sort of throw my toothbrush in the dopkin't loose. 249 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: So whatever else is in that bag, it's touching. 250 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 2: And are the shoes loose with your clothes? 251 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 1: No, I put my shoes in a little bag now. 252 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: But that's kind of a newish development. 253 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Honestly, anytime you get a little dust bag, save it. 254 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: I have like a bag of the bags and it 255 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,199 Speaker 3: just like sits in the corner of the closet you 256 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 3: fished out. Any time you have to travel, hold onto that. 257 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 2: Oh. 258 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: Also, anytime you're at a hotel, they have those bags 259 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 3: and the thing, I don't think they charge you if 260 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 3: you steal them. I always steal them. 261 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: I the secret is stealing things from a hotel. Don't 262 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: look at the bill afterwards. I have no idea if 263 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 2: I was ever charged for the robe that I stole 264 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 2: from that it's a really good secret I wear all 265 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 2: the time. I'm instaging myself in my little robe. 266 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: They charged the robes, you know, you know what my theory. 267 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: There were three in my room, even though then you 268 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 2: I was just one person and I took one and 269 00:12:58,080 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 2: I was like, oh, they're not going to notice, because like, 270 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 2: why would they have three in there? But what I 271 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: think they do is they purposefully put three in there 272 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 2: so the guest thinks, oh, I can get away with it. 273 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: This is so finances according to George, which is just 274 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: like just don't look. 275 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: How many beds were in the room one. I think 276 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,319 Speaker 3: it was like a king So they're putting three, they said, 277 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: maybe it's yeah. 278 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: They're being very progressive. What are they it's a hotel. 279 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 3: What do they want to happen? 280 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: I know, I know they're also making me feel like 281 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 2: a prude because I'm there by myself. 282 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: Where are you? 283 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 2: I wasn't even having one partner with me, let alone two. 284 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 2: I guess it's San Francisco. 285 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 3: I love re staying in a hotel room that I 286 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,439 Speaker 3: know I've had sex and like. 287 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 2: I have really you specifically request it? 288 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: Well? 289 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I stay at the Sunset Tower in 290 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: la like whenever someone else is paying for it, and 291 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 3: there are a couple rooms there where it's just like 292 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 3: the grinder flash. Yeah, life of ten years. 293 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,559 Speaker 2: I do think there was a in my life where 294 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,280 Speaker 2: I like never wanted to look back, and every time 295 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: I was somewhere where I had been before, I felt like, 296 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 2: take get. 297 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: Me out of here. 298 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: And I'm actually in a very nostalgic phase right now 299 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 2: where I actually am like purposely like I'll go to 300 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 2: my high school reunion. I mean maybe not that I 301 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't go that far, but like I'm in a high 302 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: school reunion place. 303 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: When it comes to hook ups, I'm very nostalgic. Like 304 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: I'll have hooked up with someone once in twenty thirteen, 305 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 1: and I'll like message them on Instagram. I'd be like 306 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: have you been. 307 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: I have a really distinct memory, probably like five or 308 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 3: six years ago, of like coming across your Instagram and 309 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: I saw your little mustache and you're a little like 310 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: kind of mullet, and I was like, what's that? 311 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 2: The moment era was huge for here? 312 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: Is it gay? 313 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: That's funny? 314 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 3: Is it kind of gay? Are you growing back? 315 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: I'm kind of going back to time. 316 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: I actually I like this length. 317 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's a little more tasteful. 318 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: Before it was like full, you. 319 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 1: Know, trying to be country or something. Yeah, I'm going 320 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: paul as Cow. 321 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. I know you were giving the fantasy of like 322 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 3: the pitchforky like is it straight? Is it all like 323 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: tinder fantasy of twenty nineteen? That's what you were giving. 324 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 3: You look good then, and. 325 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 2: You know that's what you would you ever go country? 326 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? Countdown to country? When is it? 327 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: If your career demanded it, if someone was like, you 328 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: have to go country. 329 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 3: Out of respect to the country, No, honey, I could 330 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 3: not be more coastal. I could not like it's it. 331 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: I am not opposed to the genre. I am not 332 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: opposed to the vibe. I'm not opposed to that. 333 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: You don't think it would be authentic. You don't think 334 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: if you were to go country you could pull it off, 335 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: is what you're saying. 336 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: Actually, now I want to try. 337 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: I think I think you should. I can't think it's 338 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: your next era. 339 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 3: I know. I don't mean like pull it as an 340 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: esthetic for like ladies and gentlemen. I mean like go 341 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 3: to Lake Okachoby and see if I can turn it, 342 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: because if I can turn it in like okachobe baby, Yeah, 343 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 3: I'm good. 344 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's sort of like the equivalent. You know, if 345 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 2: you were a comedian, you would be like touring the 346 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 2: country seeing if your material worked on non coastal audiences. 347 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 2: You bring it back suddenly you're better than ever. 348 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I want access to that. I want to learn 349 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 3: how to do that. 350 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: Hmmmm, I want to. I wish time was unlimited. Let's 351 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: start there. Well, yeah, because I think, wait, really, I 352 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 1: wish I could like choose, like I wish I could 353 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, now I'm going on vacation from real time, 354 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: and I'm going into fake time, sort of the waiting 355 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Speaker 1: room for. 356 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: Mining Granger, literally turning the time. We're huge Harry Potter 357 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: fans ever heard. Oh my god, I'm actually. 358 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: Not really, but because I would love to go work 359 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: on a farm and see if I could do it, 360 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: Like I want a simple life, my life just for 361 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: like a year, but not you lose a year. Okay, 362 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 1: hold on, because think about it if I worked on 363 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: a farm and I got what if like of course, 364 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 1: you know, think of the montage. Month one, I'm horrible. 365 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Month three, I know where to get the pig slop. Yeah, totally, 366 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: and I oh, I'm good at carrying it. 367 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: I will say this time. 368 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead, No, I think deserve but like you, 369 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 3: you don't know, I'm assuming. Okay, wait where are we from. 370 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 2: I'm from the midwestern Virginia. Okay, yeah, I mostly grew 371 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 2: up in Greece, but I spent six years in New Jersey. 372 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, so okay Jersey high school. 373 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: Like middle school, end of elementary school. 374 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 3: So like, do you know any of like the coastal 375 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 3: kids who like, oh did farming gave up on the 376 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 3: semi charm kind of life? And then like, fully we're 377 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 3: like bio organic, they them farming like five years later 378 00:17:50,560 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: and like maybe are still there? 379 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 2: One of my greatest I wouldn't say regrets, because ultimately 380 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: I don't regret it, but I always would hear about 381 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 2: those things. And by those things, I mean anything ranging 382 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: from peace Corps on one end and like organic farming Kibbutz. 383 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,399 Speaker 3: Living organic non binary Jewish, non binary. 384 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 2: Jewish farmer state brand, and I would always be like 385 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: sixty five percent interested, and I'd be like, yeah, if 386 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 2: I had just like a little an inkling more of 387 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 2: like the go getter attitude and like the you know, 388 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 2: less of a fear of disappointing my parents, who like 389 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 2: wanted me to be an engineer. I would do it. 390 00:18:25,520 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 3: Oh, but it felt very much like doing that. The 391 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: whole point was to disappoint h Yeah. 392 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a great point. 393 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,399 Speaker 2: I know. But the thing is I was playing the 394 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 2: long game because the number one way to dispoint your 395 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 2: parents is becoming a stand up comedian. You ate that, no, 396 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 2: but I was. Did you consider it? 397 00:18:43,520 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 3: No? I wanted to be an actress. 398 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: You wanted to be an actress, Sure, it's true, and 399 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,359 Speaker 2: you also wanted to be in the big city. 400 00:18:52,040 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, wait where are you from? 401 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 3: I'm from Boston. Oh, Newton, Massachusetts? 402 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Got it? Got it? 403 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 2: Got Should we do our first segment? 404 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 3: I think we should, Okay, Harry. 405 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 2: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment, 406 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 2: we test your familiarity with in complicity and straight culture 407 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 2: by asking a series of rapid fire questions where you 408 00:19:15,440 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 2: have to choose this thing or this other thing and 409 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: you have to just go with your gup. And the 410 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: one rule is you can't ask any follow up questions 411 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: about how the game works because we will yell at you. 412 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, Harry. The right to remain silent, or the 413 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: fight to regain the big client, the. 414 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: Fight terry game, the big Agnes Varda or a Couslada, 415 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: Agnus Varda, Noche. 416 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: Chester Cheetah or bag about Gita. 417 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 2: Back about out, mind the gap or grind or chat 418 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 2: mind the gap. 419 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: Meeting with h R or speeding in a car. 420 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 2: Speeding in a car a fast car, opposites attract or 421 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: megalopolis fell flat opposite the truck. 422 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:07,240 Speaker 1: Oh, keep me in the loop or get me out 423 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: of this improv troop. 424 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: Cerid the loop, using Klarna to pay or blaming Karma 425 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: the second because you're okay the like I wouldn't be 426 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 2: cat dead. 427 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: Larna is so dark to me. And they got all 428 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: the drag queens do with the Clarka's pond. 429 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: Too, because you know they have to use it, Babe 430 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 2: paid post drag race. 431 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: No, also like Klarna, Like what kind of a name 432 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 3: is that? 433 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: Like? 434 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:41,640 Speaker 3: What what kind of like? It's like a Ryan tricartan character. 435 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 2: You had one opportunity to name your company. You had 436 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,960 Speaker 2: a brainstorm meeting, you had follow up meetings. There was 437 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 2: anil that went right up to the COO. 438 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,400 Speaker 3: There are reply alls that said hey, following up. 439 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: I love the direction we're going in. 440 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 3: Ladies General, Please Klarna, Larna. 441 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 2: She comes out to like. 442 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: She sucks, she's first eliminated. 443 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: But it's not even in like a miss Van Drey 444 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 2: fun way. Everyone's like this was a mistake. 445 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: No, she's so flopped. 446 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 2: We have to rank Harry's performance on a scale of 447 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 2: one day. So used to be on the scale of 448 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 2: one to one thousand doves based on the Lady Gaga. 449 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 2: We recently changed it to zero to one thousand blades 450 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: of Grass in honor of the worst song from her 451 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 2: new album Bad Bressy. 452 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,720 Speaker 3: Not too much on seventy. 453 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: Okay, I have to say, I mean, I'm like, this 454 00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 2: is close to a perfect score for me. I was 455 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: gonna say nine and ninety nine doves, I mean. 456 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 3: Blades of press. 457 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: What I loved about Harry's performance is that she, I 458 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 2: would say, embodied a character of drag Race Judge. 459 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was very it was very house your head. 460 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 3: Yet no, because I I want that to happen to 461 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 3: be so bad. I've not done it no, And I 462 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 3: feel like they know that I'm in so deep, and 463 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 3: I feel like they know that I want it so badly, 464 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 3: and I don't think they're ever going to give. 465 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: It to me, going to come to you. 466 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: But here's my question for you, and we can stop 467 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 2: talking about this whenever you want, even though you brought 468 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 2: it up. What would your ideal challenge be that you 469 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: would judge? Oh, do you think, because you obviously are 470 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: a multi high fit it, do you want to judge 471 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 2: an acting challenge, a runway modeling challenge? 472 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: Arose? 473 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: You know you're sort of the category. Really, I'm not 474 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 3: a woman in comedy kind of Honestly, I feel like 475 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 3: I can be more articulate and like an authority about 476 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 3: a fashion challenge. I wish I were articulate in an 477 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 3: authority about an acting challenge, but those are still stripes 478 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: that I feel I am earning, or stripes that you know, 479 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: the industry in question is like not going to give 480 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: me yet, but fashion gave it away to me very 481 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 3: quickly and very bountifully. 482 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 2: Okay, so you're thinking an am. 483 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, really speaking from a place of power when it comes. 484 00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: To fashion, I think runway or you know, photoshit, editorial, 485 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 2: I know, like the. 486 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 3: Ball, the Ball challenge, Oh, the Ball challenge. Yeah, Like 487 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 3: I want to judge like seventy three us no, but 488 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 3: I also know, but like I would love to judge 489 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 3: a performance challenge because like I want to be like, hey, 490 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 3: you're the trans girl, right, like stop thinking about passing. 491 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 3: Like I can tell that you're doing that little thing 492 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: with your voice, like let it go, baby, let it 493 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 3: all hang out. I'm not trans. 494 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 1: I'm just the camera guy. 495 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 3: I lived in this season, I watched Drag Race, and 496 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: like love Drag Race for the moments were like the 497 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: void bins and like the line between trans and drag 498 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: queen exists. The line between like drag queen and capitalist 499 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 3: subject like oh yeah, I mean not exists, like like 500 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 3: like disintegrates, and like Hunter Shaeffer walks into untop to 501 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 3: this season and she's just sitting there and she and 502 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 3: she's looking around at all of these like drag queens 503 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 3: and drag and she's like, are there any dolls in 504 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: the room. Two of them are like yeah, Like because 505 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: you don't know, that was a funny moment. 506 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: I mean, I hate to become a Drag Race podcast, 507 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 2: but I do want to know your quick thoughts on 508 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: this season because we have decided as a bit that 509 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 2: we are team Jewels Sparkles. 510 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 511 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's sort of and it's actually not a bit. 512 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: We're fully team Jewel Sparkles. Why I think, Well, obviously 513 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,199 Speaker 2: Anya like okay, watching it, I'm like, I'm Anya's gonna win. 514 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 2: And I love Anya, and yeah, but there's something about 515 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: the perseverance of Jewels. She's always she's always being underestimated 516 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 2: and she always ultimately turns it out. She has a 517 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: gorgeous just presence. I mean, that face deserves to be 518 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 2: on television. 519 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so funny and nice. And then also I'm 520 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:16,960 Speaker 1: so happy when she starts a little fight, but she 521 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: like does it with like she has like moral correctness, 522 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: Like she's like I know what's good and what's bad, 523 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 1: and I always agree with her morals. 524 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 2: And she has charisma which honestly can't be taught. Yeah, 525 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 2: here's my thing. 526 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: I like my drag queens with like a drop of 527 00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 3: poison in it. 528 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: Sure. 529 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: I like the drag queen that like kind of wants 530 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,080 Speaker 3: to hurt something. I like the drag queen that has 531 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 3: hatred in her heart. I like the drag queen that 532 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: like desublimates the hatred in her heart into like funny 533 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 3: drag with like a little twisted sense, or like wicked beauty. 534 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: That's like a little like disturbing or like Timmy Brown, 535 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 3: like just like from outer space. 536 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 2: So you love Hormona, Lisa, Yes, this. 537 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 3: Is literally it. It's like I was here for Hormona. I 538 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 3: was even here for Susie too, because like I don't 539 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 3: know whether she's aware of the poison, but like the 540 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 3: poison is there and I live. I love. I love 541 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: the rotted white theater queens. Not that like to Susie 542 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: too is rotted, but like I love like the white 543 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: queens who are just like I'm the one and. 544 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 2: Such a funny thing to it, right yeah. 545 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Like. 546 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: And like I loved the kind of like trans vibe 547 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 3: of the way Susie would deliver naturalism in the acting performances, 548 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 3: like you're just an actress, baby, Like the wick is on, 549 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 3: but like the could really be on if you wanted 550 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 3: to work. There is a chemical substance stronger than glue. 551 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 3: No I and I feel in this top four we 552 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 3: there's a famine of poison. I would actually probably say 553 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 3: team LEXI love because there's some poison there for sure, right, 554 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 3: you know she what did she say? It sent the 555 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: whole I host little drag race viewing sometimes on Fridays, 556 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: you are always welcome. But she was on the stage 557 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 3: and she said the streets, the pipe and the pole, 558 00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: all of it. 559 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: When she said that past that was amazing. That was 560 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: like Jerry blank coded, Yeah, this is so great. I've 561 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: never had anyone say that in real life. 562 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 3: I'm always gonna ride for a queen that's from the streets, 563 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: the pipe, and the poll ideally all of it. 564 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,159 Speaker 2: G Lexy team, Like I guess, I do. I mean, 565 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,880 Speaker 2: I do love Lexe is a star. And it also 566 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 2: just makes you remember, like, yeah, what we lose by 567 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 2: all of them being twenty three is that they don't 568 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 2: have lives they can talk about. 569 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the twenty three was glaring this season, 570 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: it was re blaring. 571 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:55,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's there's drag queens at twenty three who 572 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 3: have shipped to talk about that's true. I mean it 573 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 3: used to be like, I don't know, being a drag queen, 574 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 3: Like it used to be like you were from the 575 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 3: streets and you were free. This is like your last resort, 576 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 3: like you have to do this because you cannot pass 577 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: for anything other than a drag queen. But like, I 578 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 3: don't know, you know, like mistress is about Brooks like 579 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 3: she's young, she's got a dragon, she was sixteen. That's true, true, true, Yeah, 580 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 3: we still have those grete queens. 581 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 2: What did you think about all their parents coming in 582 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:21,960 Speaker 2: and being so supportive. 583 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:29,880 Speaker 1: I live. 584 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was, it was. It's inspirational. And then 585 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 2: at some point you're like, okay, so at this point, 586 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 2: is this just the equivalent of like if your son 587 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 2: played baseball, like if everyone is so supportive, But like. 588 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:48,760 Speaker 3: I actually lived extra for like Susie's mom. Yeah, like 589 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 3: non plus yeah, and I just spit the p and 590 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 3: plus it was like, well, it's theater training. That what 591 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 3: I lived for the representation of like a non plustly 592 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 3: supportive parent. We were talking about this. I'm so much 593 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 3: more realistic. 594 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 2: It's so much more realistic, and I really I became 595 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: upset at the fact that they were trying to sell 596 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 2: us this narrative that Susie's mom was less supportive quote unquote, 597 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 2: like she was less excited than like a Sam Starr's 598 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 2: mom or like the or Jules's dad, and you were 599 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: supposed to almost feel bad for her that they didn't 600 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 2: have this more like kei ky relationship and it's like, no, 601 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 2: that's what my mom or your mom would be like 602 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 2: suposed to be, Like, that's what moms are supposed to be. 603 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,400 Speaker 2: Like if my mom was Sam Starr's mom and she 604 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 2: was like, who here needs help talking? 605 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 3: I would like not like that. 606 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,600 Speaker 1: Well, there's something we've talked about neutrality on this podcast 607 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: a lot, and there's many realm for it. We are 608 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:48,760 Speaker 1: supportive politically not politically, of course, but one thing I 609 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: do think we're neutrality really matters is parents' support. Yes, 610 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 1: like they aren't supposed to hate what you're doing, but 611 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,200 Speaker 1: they're also not supposed to be like gagging. 612 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: I completely that's the only way to raise normal children, yeah, 613 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,080 Speaker 2: is you can't gag too much. 614 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: You just have to be like, okay, cool, like let 615 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 1: me know how that goes. That's it, like start, that's it. 616 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom gagged, Well you know you're in I 617 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: don't think she's being supportive. I just think I gagged her, Yeah, 618 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 3: gagged her a bit. 619 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: I fear I. 620 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 3: Think I gagged my dad too, my stepdad, stepmom, stepdad? 621 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 3: Why are you gagging? 622 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: So? 623 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: Why are you gagging? 624 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 4: So? 625 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: You know? 626 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: I bring it to you every ball I have been Klarna. 627 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 1: Klarna Clarna documentary when like, it's only a matter of time. 628 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 2: To expose Clara the company. 629 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I. 630 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 3: Have a list of drag games, but I feel like 631 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 3: we probably should start talking about Oh my god. 632 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 2: Okay, wait, well do you want like five of those? 633 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: Yes? 634 00:30:51,440 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 4: Yes, okay, okay, detritis. 635 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: Oh that's good. Uh Jean Jenna Rams John Jay. 636 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 2: Quarantine, Quarantine. 637 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: Quarantine would absolutely. 638 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 3: Be on Kinney Charistmas. 639 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 2: MARCHIALI, Si, wow, Quarantine is my favorite. Quarantine's really I 640 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: thought there should be a drag name, drag queen named kombucha. 641 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: I'm sure there is somewhere. 642 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 2: Probably you have to hope, but quarantine is beautiful. That's 643 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: really a nice name. Become her because wait, speaking of lists, Harry, 644 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 2: you did send me last night an incredible list of 645 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: straight topics and you can choose whichever one you want, 646 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 2: but I would like you to read the list. 647 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 3: Yay, I love this. Call me buzzby the way, Yeah, 648 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 3: stradio okay. Quote clubbing not like partying, not like the 649 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: club club, the art house, interesting, quiet, luxury, drag brunch, 650 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 3: plastic surgery oh okay, big boobs okay, skinny parentheses, new development. 651 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: I would a little bit more about this, keep going here. 652 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 3: Male actors, right, yes, being supportive. 653 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: Kindness, Okay, yeah, there's so much there. I mean, first 654 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: of all, club I think is such a clubbing in 655 00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: quotes is an amazing topic because it is like this 656 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: thing where it's like foreign, like they're like, well, that's 657 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: like that's a thing that some people do. It's like 658 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: a genre person. Now I'm spinning, now my theater trains 659 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: coming out and that for Whereas for LGBTQ plus it's 660 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: sort of like, well, yeah, it's a given part of like. 661 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're just say I'm going out. 662 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Well, clubbing is about the club. It's about 663 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 3: like the location. Ideally the LGBT is like we're here 664 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 3: for the music or like we're here to like get 665 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: laid or like you know, we're here to do drugs. Like, 666 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 3: clubbing is about the. 667 00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: Club, and it's about lines. 668 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: It's about like and it's about like what oh drag Race. 669 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 3: When no, no, Share is not drag Race exclusive. The 670 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 3: way I imitate her. 671 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: Is at this point, I think of Sharing more with 672 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: drag Race than anything else. I mean, exists as a 673 00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: character in the drag Race universe. 674 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: You know, much like we were talking about John Diddy 675 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: in the other day, there's share the person and their 676 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 2: share of the fantasms phantasm that exists in culture. 677 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's much like Sally Rooney and that she's. 678 00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: Much like Salaraty in that sense. Okay, Wait, I do 679 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: want to know which which one you ended up? I 680 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: want to know which one you ended up choosing of 681 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,280 Speaker 2: of the of the topics I have to choose. 682 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: Oh, we can also choose together. Well, okay, but I 683 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 3: also wait, you know I already offered. I want you 684 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 3: to Okay, we. 685 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: Can spend on skinny prenzies, new development. 686 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 2: I do want you to expand on that, even if 687 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,439 Speaker 2: it doesn't end up being the topic. 688 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 3: But I mean, it's it's just like you know, the 689 00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: X algorithm. It's like I feel like, if you're gay, 690 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 3: it's it's about the cutting edge, and it's about being different, 691 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 3: and it's about especially like the coastal gay, especially the 692 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 3: New York gay, it's always about going over here when 693 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 3: everyone else is over there. And like the new thing 694 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 3: is like I want a big boy. I want a 695 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 3: big fat boy. Yes, Like it's it's like the two Tours. 696 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 3: I was like the cut Torso and the Belly torso 697 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,040 Speaker 3: it's like want the belly, like you know, it's we're 698 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 3: done with cut. We're wow, maybe we're done with cut period. 699 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: Declaring done with I think hashtag done with I'm Paul 700 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: announcing the challenge, and the hashtag. 701 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: Is done with cut. I gotta be cut. 702 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: I gotta be cut. 703 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 2: She's already done cut hers. 704 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 1: Well yes, twice. 705 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 3: Listen. Wow. 706 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: Well okay, so skinny. 707 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 3: Is the faggots. 708 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, literally, I think that is interesting. I mean it is. 709 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit yesterday about like working out 710 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: in sort of the masculine vibe of it, and I 711 00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,319 Speaker 1: do feel like skinny as the ideal body type is 712 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: like a new like republican ideal. 713 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 2: But you're saying gays when they zig, we zag, meaning 714 00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 2: like okay, we're hashtag done with cut for men and 715 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 2: then for women? Are we hashtag done with skinny in 716 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 2: the gay world? 717 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 3: Well, well, I think that, like lesbian beauty standards are 718 00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 3: always affirmative, like a healthy woman's body, like the straight 719 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: girl standard of trying to be like cute, skinny and 720 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,759 Speaker 3: petitue for like, like, it's like we go the other 721 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 3: way of that as lesbians. I'm not a lesbian I'm 722 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: trying to I'm using my theater training. I'm using my 723 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 3: theater training. 724 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: Lesbian Yeah no. 725 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 3: No, I feel as though the healthy female body is celebrated. 726 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 3: I feel like I can't really imagine the lesbian. That's like, 727 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 3: you know, the Chinatown art bro. That's just like I love, 728 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 3: like an abject little like skinny like indies, like twelve 729 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 3: year old, like you know, vibe. 730 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,920 Speaker 2: Theater training is absolutely coming out. 731 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm I mean, like, I just I 732 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 3: don't know. I'm sorry, are you Sarah Snook? This is 733 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,439 Speaker 3: twenty six. 734 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 2: Different characters are playing the twenty six characters and Dorian 735 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 2: Gray right now. 736 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 3: No, but I could you could? You could? No, I could? 737 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 3: I could play like nineteen, Yeah, yeah I would. 738 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 2: They would have to cast a different person just for 739 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: the final six. You're doing nineteen, And they're like, she 740 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 2: has she almost has the right and to do all 741 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 2: twenty six, but she's just doing nineteen. 742 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I do want to see it. I think I 743 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: think she's the team. 744 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,360 Speaker 2: Well she is, I mean talking about drag she says 745 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 2: that she's like what she likes better is that she 746 00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 2: gets to be a drag king. She's like, I'm not 747 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 2: a man, I'm a drag king in the show. 748 00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 3: I kind of identify as a female impersonator on the low. 749 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 2: Harry, what are you talking about? 750 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: Please SayMore. 751 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 3: Well, it's it's just like what the girls used to 752 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:53,720 Speaker 3: call themselves vocationally. 753 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,120 Speaker 2: It's like semantic, like like the. 754 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 3: Real show girls in like the eighties, who like we're 755 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 3: living their lives as women, but were also like employed 756 00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,400 Speaker 3: as female illusionists and like it wasn't like it's like 757 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm not a drag queen. I'm a female impersonator. I 758 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 3: embody the look and feel of real like I you know, 759 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 3: oh that good eighty silicone, like they like the injection. 760 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,600 Speaker 3: Oh if that weren't like illegal and highly dangerous, I 761 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 3: would be coned down. 762 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,760 Speaker 2: Do you are you thinking of a sort of Pam 763 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,280 Speaker 2: Anderson Baywatch figure? 764 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, it's just like like a BBL 765 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,799 Speaker 3: does not hit the same. No, it's just like a 766 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 3: little bit of like free silicone injected into your hips 767 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 3: and a bath tub. 768 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, inject me. I'm a free bitch. 769 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 3: No, Like it's cool. I don't know. I'm obviously not 770 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:51,399 Speaker 3: trying to like publicly disavow whatever if ias on the record, 771 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,799 Speaker 3: but like I love female. No, no, and like people, 772 00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,719 Speaker 3: you know, people who live their life the way I 773 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: live my life with the same whatever, like that was 774 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 3: the nomenclature. Honey, I'm all about like it's a historical 775 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,279 Speaker 3: that this is also proprietary. 776 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 2: Don't you think gay guys are male impersonators in some 777 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 2: way because they're sort of like trying in a huge 778 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:11,920 Speaker 2: the masks off. Yeah, the masks are and. 779 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: Even like putting on a cameo hate just. 780 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: Like the gym gaze. They're like, oh no, I have 781 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 2: to have another male body on top of mine so 782 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,399 Speaker 2: that I can feel like a man. 783 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just protein instead of silicone. 784 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:26,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's protein instead of silicon, and silicon is so 785 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:27,480 Speaker 2: much more glamorous. 786 00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 3: Literally, I do wish there was a. 787 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 2: Version of getting giant fake boobs for a man, because 788 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 2: I think that would make so many people so much happier. 789 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: You can get silicone injected into your pectorals. 790 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:40,879 Speaker 2: It's also true. The chin the chin trend. The chin 791 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 2: the chin trend, that's the that's the equivalent. Oh yeah, 792 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: people do be getting chins. People are getting chins in 793 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,239 Speaker 2: a big way. You're lucky you have a strong chin. 794 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you for saying that, Okay, wait, so but 795 00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: I do know you don't. That's okay, George. 796 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 3: I already said that I kind of thought you were cute, 797 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 3: but like I don't, I don't. I don't see a 798 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 3: strong change. I don't really see it. 799 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 2: I want to know about about parenthesieson new development when 800 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,719 Speaker 2: it comes to skinny. So you're saying it is sort 801 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 2: of like is this kind of not to be so literal, 802 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 2: but like in a posto zembic world, skinny is back in. 803 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: I just feel like, Okay, here's here's what I really think. Like, 804 00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 3: the gays are not relevant, the gays are not in 805 00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 3: the pole position. No, I agree that the gays are 806 00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 3: not like the cultural force that they used to be, 807 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 3: and so they are kind of like top down retooling 808 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:40,720 Speaker 3: their brand right now. They're at basement fucking on girls. Yeah. 809 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, completely, No, I think totally. We seated so much 810 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 2: ground during the marriage equality era where everyone had to 811 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 2: pretend they were normal so that we get married. And 812 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 2: I think we thought, you know, we thought, we thought, 813 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,840 Speaker 2: oh well, we'll do this performance of everyone everyone wants 814 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:01,120 Speaker 2: little designer twins and we're all normal and ties and 815 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 2: as soon as we are right to Mary, we can 816 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,439 Speaker 2: go back to being absolutely horrifying and doing share impressions 817 00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:12,839 Speaker 2: and you know, injecting silicon for sport. Yeah, but it 818 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 2: doesn't work like that. The brand is ruined work Larna now. 819 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 3: But it's not your fault, little gay boy, because it's 820 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 3: really hard to be a man right now. It's really 821 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000 Speaker 3: not fab to be a man right now, and it 822 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 3: hasn't been for years. And I feel like the gays 823 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,280 Speaker 3: are just trying new things, Like what if you weren't 824 00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 3: body fascists and we were actually like, you know, I 825 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,839 Speaker 3: want a big boy. What if we weren't like ill 826 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 3: Vana and like you know, you know, sampled the little Fish. 827 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 3: It's like, what will this save me? Like, yeah, spoiler? No, 828 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200 Speaker 3: I mean, y'all got your podcast, so y'all are good, 829 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 3: y'all can cut you know, y'all can suck dick or whatever. 830 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,600 Speaker 3: But like some of these guys are really looking for 831 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 3: their way in. Yeah. 832 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: No, whenever I meet a gay without a podcast, I 833 00:41:59,560 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: get so. 834 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 3: So I'm lost. 835 00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, what is the I guess you're gonna have to 836 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: like try bisexuality. 837 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,360 Speaker 3: One of the drag names is mortgage memoir. 838 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: Oh that's nice. 839 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 2: What I What I love about what I love about 840 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,480 Speaker 2: this topic, Harry, is that we keep getting farther and 841 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 2: farther away from skinny new development. You have now theorized 842 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 2: about every every No, I'm just saying. 843 00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like skinny was the gay standing, and 844 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 3: because it is the gay standard and the stocks is down. 845 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: It's straight now. Yes, Okay, Okay, I get it again, Yes, okay. 846 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 3: I and I feel like gaze of all. You know, 847 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: Actually I shouldn't just say gazball stripes. I should say 848 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 3: that skinny gaze feel more down for big boys now. 849 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 3: They're talking about it on Twitter very loudly and performatively, 850 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 3: and I think that they I think it's a matter 851 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 3: of being seen as having more large ass. 852 00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,759 Speaker 1: H But. 853 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:05,200 Speaker 2: I'll say largest, great drag name, please welcome largeness. 854 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: So this is complicated for me, of course. Well Sam 855 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,279 Speaker 1: has always been in Big Boys. Yeah, sort of been 856 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,760 Speaker 1: my whole vibe like a big boy. I can't help myself. 857 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 2: You feel like it's getting more popularized in a way 858 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:18,399 Speaker 2: where you were like, oh, I saw Arcade fire at 859 00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,640 Speaker 2: Sasquatch in you know, yeah, I'm. 860 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 1: Literally like, wait, you never even listen to their EP? 861 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: You don't care. No, I'm sort of like I'm just 862 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: being like, I'm taking a back seat. I'm like, you know, 863 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: I'm letting everyone else discover on their own time. And 864 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm sort of, you know, I would say not, I 865 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 1: think it is a bit desperate. It's because it's not 866 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 1: being into big boys. It's the branding about being into 867 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: big boys that's embarrassing. So I'm sort of letting them 868 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: sort of shame themselves and embarrass themselves and then and 869 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: then silently, you know, I'm sort of quiet luxurying my 870 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: my interests. 871 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 3: Are you a feeder? 872 00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,920 Speaker 1: No, I'm not a feeder. Okay, but celebrate the community, 873 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: of course. 874 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,160 Speaker 3: Of course, you don't want them to show their work. 875 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,920 Speaker 3: Come complete, Okay, come as you are. 876 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's wait, I want to look at the I 877 00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 2: have the list in front of me. We are going 878 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:14,919 Speaker 2: to pick one on air. 879 00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: Okay, I will say. Drag Brunch is already jumping out. 880 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,959 Speaker 2: I know I love drag Bunch and we're already talking 881 00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 2: about drag. 882 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. 883 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 3: I'm not sure I've even actually been to a drag 884 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 3: brunch because that's how straight it is. It's like it's 885 00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,839 Speaker 3: so not for us. Yeah, but it is the girls 886 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:32,120 Speaker 3: they are working. 887 00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, is that what we're gonna do. Drag brunch 888 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,320 Speaker 2: is big. I mean, I do love kindness and being supportive. 889 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,040 Speaker 2: I do love male actors because you are so right 890 00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 2: that the deification of like and by the way, I 891 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 2: love these men. But you know, al Pacino, Robert de 892 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 2: Nier like to be like, my favorite actor is al Pacino. 893 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 3: So straight, I to quote Joan Didion, it's not a 894 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 3: part of my world. It's not. Yeah, like I I 895 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 3: there are male actresses. 896 00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 2: Oh my god, yes, this is okay. So I'll have 897 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 2: this theory that basically acting shouldn't be by gender. It 898 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:25,239 Speaker 2: should be like best Butcher performance, bestem performance, best twink performance, 899 00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 2: best bear performance, and like you can be Judy Dench 900 00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: and you can be giving a bear performance, or you 901 00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 2: can be it's with a bear smile, or you can 902 00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,360 Speaker 2: be Oscar Isaac and you can be giving like a 903 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 2: high fem performance. 904 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, I like this. 905 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,280 Speaker 1: Okay, wait, so let's all right, Well even male actors, 906 00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,520 Speaker 1: I think like, because there's one thing where it's the 907 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: greats and then the other thing where it's like obsessing 908 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: over Paul Rudd. Yes, it's like, yes, he's like always good. Sure, 909 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: it's like what is this, Like, why is he? Why 910 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 1: are you so obsessed with him? Like he's just sort 911 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,359 Speaker 1: of a like average handsome guy. 912 00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:07,799 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 913 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 2: Okay, we're doing male actors. I'm I'm declaring it. 914 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, great, all which of your peers do you hate? Well, 915 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 3: you're doing what in my mind drag race, wouldn't you're 916 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,800 Speaker 3: validating my status as an acting authority? 917 00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:23,120 Speaker 1: Yes? 918 00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:27,280 Speaker 3: Well, or perhaps you're minting it Ooh okay. 919 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:30,839 Speaker 2: I think okay, So all right, there's old actors. There's 920 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:35,840 Speaker 2: like Marlon Brando, standum, and then from that like basically 921 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,879 Speaker 2: anything related to the Godfather, you know what I mean, 922 00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:41,239 Speaker 2: like Robert you know, output basically all the Italians. So 923 00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,840 Speaker 2: I think that's a big part of like Dad actors. 924 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,560 Speaker 2: Dad's like yeah. And then there's the more contemporary, BuzzFeed 925 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 2: tinged sensibility of like Ryan Goslin, Yes, and and again 926 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: Paul Meskal, the Timothy Shallow, like the boy of the 927 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 2: Internet's boyfriend that. 928 00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 1: Kind of thing, you know what I mean, which that 929 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,920 Speaker 1: to me is like the weirder one currently. 930 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:14,120 Speaker 3: Well, the Internet boyfriend thing is an arc type that 931 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:18,880 Speaker 3: is being just stated in this age that we mentioned 932 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,560 Speaker 3: but I mentioned of it being unfashionable to be a man. 933 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 3: This is the new minted masculinity of like I hate 934 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 3: to say it, but like I can't phrase it any 935 00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 3: other way, Like in order to become an Internet boyfriend 936 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,960 Speaker 3: of the week, you have to like have it stipped 937 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: on your forehead, like I'm not going to rape you. 938 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 3: Like that is what it takes to be a heart throb. 939 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 3: And is that fab right? Yes? 940 00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah? Wow, there is something Okay, there's something about Timothy 941 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:58,800 Speaker 1: Chalomy's current vibe yeh, which I do think is almost 942 00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: going against internet boy friend where it is sort of 943 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 1: being like, wait, he's being like nasty, he's. 944 00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 2: Being toxic nasty. Yeah, he's dating Kendle. I mean it's 945 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 2: he sort of wants to have it both ways because 946 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,440 Speaker 2: he wants to be you know, wearing the yellow suit 947 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,920 Speaker 2: and the vest without a T shirt and be so twink, 948 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 2: but then he also wants to be dating up Kardashian 949 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,680 Speaker 2: and saying he wants to be the next Robert de 950 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: Niro and having the sort of almost machismo. It is 951 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 2: a twink. It is machismo but through a twink lens, 952 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 2: which actually is one of the most dangerous kinds. 953 00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 3: Well, no, I mean this positions him to be cuge. Yeah, 954 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 3: like I mean he is huge. He I think he's 955 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 3: on his way to being when it rages. 956 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,719 Speaker 2: Him into being like Leo, because that's what Leo. Leo 957 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,839 Speaker 2: Wasimo through a twin lens, and then he just had 958 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,400 Speaker 2: to sort of age in a kind of you know, 959 00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:56,640 Speaker 2: we have this theory created by our friend Olivia. You 960 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:59,920 Speaker 2: can either age dry or age wet, and Leo aged wet, 961 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,920 Speaker 2: which actually gives you more gravitas. 962 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 963 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,839 Speaker 1: And I feel that like there's something about him where 964 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,120 Speaker 1: his beginning was very like I'm androgynist, I have stamped 965 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,280 Speaker 1: on my forehead like I'm safe, And now it's like, oh, 966 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 1: he's actually been like no, actually I'm I'm actually proud 967 00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:20,279 Speaker 1: to be a man. 968 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 969 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: Actually, it's like good that I'm a man. 970 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's refreshing all this fracas. 971 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, there's something to it, but it is it's 972 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:31,239 Speaker 1: like a it feels like a new it feels like 973 00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: a new change in culture. 974 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 3: I mean, honey, it's like if you're going to be 975 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 3: a man with all the options to not be a 976 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,719 Speaker 3: man in front of you, like if you're going to 977 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 3: choose this, choose it, commit commit This is drag. I 978 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:44,880 Speaker 3: do think we have. 979 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:50,839 Speaker 2: There are various men that signify this transitional period between BuzzFeed, 980 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 2: twink and then new masculinity, and I think a big 981 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,439 Speaker 2: one is Glenn Powell. Glenn Powell is someone that came 982 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:00,680 Speaker 2: along and they actually do on him to be an 983 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 2: old fashioned man, but they're not ready to hard launch 984 00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,719 Speaker 2: that yet, so they'll make him like they're making a 985 00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 2: little more silly and be a little more Internet's boyfriend, 986 00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 2: you know. But then at some point he's gonna, you know, 987 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 2: go mel Gibson. 988 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:17,400 Speaker 1: He's literally like like a little dog on a leash, 989 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,719 Speaker 1: right Yeah, in a way where I'm like set him 990 00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080 Speaker 1: free totally. I want to know what's bad about him? 991 00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 3: What do you want to see from a man on screen? 992 00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:27,319 Speaker 3: Like I feel like as gay people, we don't think 993 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 3: about it. I know, I know, I don't care, You're right, 994 00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 3: I don't really care. I mean, like I can think 995 00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 3: of the exceptions to the rule. Like have you ever 996 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 3: seen like John Cassavetti's husbands that is male actress down 997 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 3: that is like, you know, masculinity like kind of like 998 00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 3: crumbling before like Mike and Nicky. Yeah, Like I love 999 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:52,560 Speaker 3: when it's just like the guy is becoming so much 1000 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,319 Speaker 3: of a guy that he's like collapsing under the weight 1001 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,279 Speaker 3: of how much of the guy he is, and there 1002 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 3: it's like it's like kind of pussy. 1003 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I love that. I need to kick 1004 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,920 Speaker 1: out like Adam Driver for that sometimes. 1005 00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but it has to be done right. 1006 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: It has to be done right. 1007 00:51:08,760 --> 00:51:10,080 Speaker 3: Are you saying he's not doing it right. 1008 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,560 Speaker 2: I'm saying that when directed correctly, such as by Limna Dunham, 1009 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,759 Speaker 2: he is doing it right. And I actually think it's 1010 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 2: not a coincidence that Mikey and Nicki is also directed 1011 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 2: by women. I think that there need to be more 1012 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 2: men directed by women in the way that you know, 1013 00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:28,120 Speaker 2: men have meant not to be so feminism one oh one, 1014 00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 2: Like I'm writing an op ed for Mary Claire. But 1015 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 2: but I do think some of the great male performances 1016 00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,239 Speaker 2: are directed by women and none of them are ever 1017 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 2: acknowledged as like in the because everyone just wants. 1018 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:41,680 Speaker 3: Francis Ford Coppola. 1019 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, Adam Driver in Girls is a better male performance 1020 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: than Leonardo DiCaprio in the Revenant period. 1021 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:52,880 Speaker 3: Sorry, it's true. 1022 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:53,960 Speaker 1: My empty bottle. 1023 00:51:54,920 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 3: Do you not agree with that? I just feel as 1024 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:06,960 Speaker 3: though one is in service of something else that the 1025 00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:11,799 Speaker 3: other one is not in service, And I'm forming this 1026 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:16,360 Speaker 3: idea in real time. Leonardo DiCaprio's performance in the Revenant 1027 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:22,320 Speaker 3: is all about difficulty. It's all about arduousness. It's all 1028 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 3: about like recreating freezing on the Titanic, but you're just 1029 00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,399 Speaker 3: like freezing inside. 1030 00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:28,480 Speaker 2: In a bear. 1031 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:30,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, inside of the corpse of the bear. 1032 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 2: Well, where do I sign up? 1033 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:42,040 Speaker 3: And I feel as though it's about suffering alone in 1034 00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 3: the wilderness. And I feel like Adam Driver's performance and 1035 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,040 Speaker 3: Girls is so memorable, particularly to us, because it wasn't 1036 00:52:51,080 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 3: just about like a certain kind of man that was recognizable. 1037 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 3: It was like a certain kind of man in relation 1038 00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,440 Speaker 3: to a certain kind of woman. And it's yes being 1039 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 3: directed by the had done him, but it's also like 1040 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:05,080 Speaker 3: acting off of her. And this idea that you know, 1041 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:13,880 Speaker 3: this elusive, chauvinistic, magnetic, hot kind of straight guy actually 1042 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:18,359 Speaker 3: really wanted the like complicated pussy like that was like 1043 00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,600 Speaker 3: revelatory for us. And I feel like I'm unable to 1044 00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 3: see his performance outside of the thing that I learned 1045 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:31,960 Speaker 3: about what guys want, like new guys like guys of 1046 00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:37,960 Speaker 3: my generation. Once I learned it, got myself a complicated 1047 00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:38,719 Speaker 3: pussy hitting. 1048 00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:41,600 Speaker 2: And he taught you that you have Adam driver to 1049 00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:43,839 Speaker 2: think for that for your self actualization. 1050 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,600 Speaker 3: Had Leana done him right now? 1051 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 4: Wow? 1052 00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,560 Speaker 1: Wait, seriously, I would love this. 1053 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,200 Speaker 3: No, I can't do it. 1054 00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you can't use like that. 1055 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 3: Okay, I almost did it. 1056 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 2: Here's my question for you. Should men only be in 1057 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 2: theater and not unscreened? 1058 00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 3: I live? You know what I mean? Well, yeah, because 1059 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:17,320 Speaker 3: the screen is like the soul, The screen is inside 1060 00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,840 Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to go inside right this. 1061 00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 3: I want you to do something like for me at 1062 00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:26,840 Speaker 3: least to me at most, And you can get that 1063 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 3: in life performance. 1064 00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I want to see it from a safe distance, 1065 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,279 Speaker 2: but I want to feel a little bit of a 1066 00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,279 Speaker 2: fear of like he might come in and come out 1067 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 2: and punch me in the face. 1068 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,280 Speaker 3: Yeah. But also like the I feel like the gaze 1069 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:44,360 Speaker 3: of theater like a z like the audience like that's 1070 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,160 Speaker 3: cruel in one way. In the gaze of the camera 1071 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,479 Speaker 3: is cruel. In another way, I think the cruel gaze 1072 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,720 Speaker 3: of the camera brings something like really cool out of women. 1073 00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,800 Speaker 3: But it's also like a gaze that women are trained 1074 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,719 Speaker 3: and conditioned to exist under, which is why like gay 1075 00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:08,040 Speaker 3: guys love actresses because they just do it. But I 1076 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 3: think that men can sort of function in a similar 1077 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 3: way under the gaze of theater because it's not like 1078 00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 3: an institutional like gays that you could write about and like, 1079 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,520 Speaker 3: you know, the cultural criticism of like you know, like 1080 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:22,640 Speaker 3: the male gaze, Like it's like this, it's the thing 1081 00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,879 Speaker 3: that exists everywhere, like the theater one. It's like we're 1082 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 3: all just here now looking at you. And you're a guy, 1083 00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 3: and you're supposed to be a leader, and you're supposed 1084 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 3: to deliver, and you're supposed to you know, make the 1085 00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,400 Speaker 3: people come together. What are you going to do right now? 1086 00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,480 Speaker 3: Impress us? I feel like guys can do something special 1087 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 3: with that, and I want to see them do it. Yeah. 1088 00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 2: I also think there's something about, Okay, we give women 1089 00:55:48,440 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 2: just this small screen and they can make a world 1090 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,200 Speaker 2: out of it. Like it's like I could do you know, 1091 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,279 Speaker 2: a close up of Cape Blanchette and she's doing so 1092 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,400 Speaker 2: much with her eyes on her face and whatever. And 1093 00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 2: then with men, it's like the stage like them being 1094 00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,680 Speaker 2: on in public and taking up space. 1095 00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,600 Speaker 3: That's what they want. Like it's more of like a sport. 1096 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 2: It's more of like a yeah, it's more of a sport. Yeah, 1097 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,359 Speaker 2: And you want to see them just like take up, 1098 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 2: go high, go wide. 1099 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:13,440 Speaker 1: Well, it's their drag queen. 1100 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 3: But that's what men used to do on screen before 1101 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 3: Marlon Brando. Yeah, before Marlon Brando. We're like see like 1102 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 3: we had like there was like this element of like 1103 00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:31,319 Speaker 3: male drag. But you know, Marlon Renno is the one 1104 00:56:31,360 --> 00:56:32,600 Speaker 3: that kind of like you know, just like brought it 1105 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:34,560 Speaker 3: all down to this naturalism thing and like changed the 1106 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 3: way people saw acting and created a whole new set 1107 00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 3: of expectations for like, hey everyone, but be like specifically 1108 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 3: the guys. It's like if you give me nothing, you 1109 00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 3: are giving me everything. That's like and we are still 1110 00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,480 Speaker 3: kind of under that rock. I mean, I think I 1111 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,680 Speaker 3: read this thing about Nick Cage how he just like 1112 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,839 Speaker 3: doesn't do that, and like that's why he's amazing. He's 1113 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 3: like he's a male actress. 1114 00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna bring him up. 1115 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,399 Speaker 3: One long legs. A girl don't even get heard about 1116 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,400 Speaker 3: long legs. Her crossy team. We need to long legs. 1117 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:12,800 Speaker 3: There needs to be an investigation, investigation and transvestigation investigation. Yeah, legs, 1118 00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 3: you want to talk about silicon in a phase? Bitch? 1119 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,400 Speaker 1: That movie I felt so gas lip by sort of 1120 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 1: the entire world. 1121 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:22,600 Speaker 2: I completely agree. 1122 00:57:22,600 --> 00:57:26,240 Speaker 3: Well, okay, this maybe this is straight culture. There's this 1123 00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,640 Speaker 3: new thing I feel like in horror movies and other 1124 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,280 Speaker 3: things where it's like, no, like the devil is real, 1125 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,040 Speaker 3: like like like dark magic is real, Like this is 1126 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 3: actually not a story about like you know, a man's 1127 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,960 Speaker 3: curdling insanity in a basement or yes, and the devil 1128 00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,240 Speaker 3: is also real, like yeah. I watched it with Ludwig, 1129 00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,560 Speaker 3: my boyfriend, and I turned him after and I was like, okay, wait, 1130 00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:49,920 Speaker 3: so he was a bioterrorist, like like like the black 1131 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,959 Speaker 3: powder smoke coming out of the head of the doll 1132 00:57:54,320 --> 00:58:00,240 Speaker 3: was like anthrax that makes people kill people, like it's 1133 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:06,080 Speaker 3: the devil. I could not accept. Yeah, I just it's 1134 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,760 Speaker 3: not a part of my part of. 1135 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:17,320 Speaker 2: It's stories. I So I felt this way with The 1136 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 2: Witch and with Hereditary, where I was like, wait a minute, 1137 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 2: after all that, and listen, I'm great films. Okay, well, Hereditary, 1138 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:27,720 Speaker 2: I stand listen, I great again, great films. Talk about 1139 00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: an actress Tony you I am your mother. 1140 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing. 1141 00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:37,360 Speaker 2: I'd like to see dstin Hoffman do that, but I yeah, 1142 00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:38,760 Speaker 2: don't come for him. 1143 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:40,720 Speaker 3: Not to say, Honey? 1144 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 2: Did say was sort of the long legs of her generation. 1145 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, and the Devil made him do it. 1146 00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but didn't you expect both the Witch and Hereditary 1147 00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:53,920 Speaker 2: that there would be some heightened that it wouldn't just 1148 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 2: be literally about No. 1149 00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,080 Speaker 1: You're right, there's like it's like get out of jail 1150 00:58:57,080 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 1: free card in a way where you're like, Okay, let's 1151 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: do another draft, like let's find a real just hi. 1152 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,240 Speaker 3: I mean, it's like I don't mind it in a 1153 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:06,840 Speaker 3: classic like the Extor Sister Rosemary's Baby, it just has 1154 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,560 Speaker 3: to be done with so much glamour and so much 1155 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:16,160 Speaker 3: precision and so such good writing that, I mean, you 1156 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:20,000 Speaker 3: have to write better than the Bible, Honey, in order 1157 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 3: to really get it. 1158 00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, miss ari Astor, you have to write better than 1159 00:59:24,800 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: the Bible, girl. 1160 00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:30,880 Speaker 3: Now I know. I listen. I'm actually did you see 1161 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 3: the trailer for her new movie? 1162 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: I no, I haven't, I haven't. 1163 00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,920 Speaker 3: I should. I have very high expectations of our master, 1164 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:40,760 Speaker 3: and I am really excited that he's coming out with 1165 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,120 Speaker 3: a movie that takes place in twenty twenty. Because I've 1166 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,560 Speaker 3: been sitting here like since twenty twenty, being like when 1167 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:48,320 Speaker 3: are we gonna Why is no Budy? I don't know 1168 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 3: now about twenty twenty. 1169 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,600 Speaker 1: It's like a pandemic movie. 1170 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very much about like I don't actually 1171 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,280 Speaker 3: know the plot, but based on the trailer, it's like 1172 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 3: somebody scrolling in twenty twenty. It was Joaquin Phoenix scrolling 1173 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:05,600 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty, and it's like Emma Stone and. 1174 01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:10,320 Speaker 2: Dro Pascal's very like this because I did say one 1175 01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:14,280 Speaker 2: screenshot that's like, you know, some influencer posting about like 1176 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty protests or something. Yeah, like it's like making 1177 01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 2: fun of that sort of the air of cancelation of 1178 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:24,040 Speaker 2: that summer, and you know, we were all in a 1179 01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 2: dark place. 1180 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,160 Speaker 3: Maybe we don't have to talk about it right here, 1181 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:31,200 Speaker 3: but like somebody, like somebody so like lyrically misanthropic as 1182 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 3: Ariasca could actually do something. Yeah, And I'm kind of sacked. 1183 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,600 Speaker 3: I'm also just kind of saying this because like there's 1184 01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:45,440 Speaker 3: a twenty twenty movie that like me and a friend 1185 01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,240 Speaker 3: were really like adapting from something and like kind of 1186 01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:51,160 Speaker 3: working on and we sort of like soft trotted it 1187 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,400 Speaker 3: out a little bit. But this was in like twenty 1188 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:56,360 Speaker 3: twenty two, and it was just resolutely like, the girls 1189 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 3: are not ready for twenty twenty. The girls are not 1190 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,760 Speaker 3: ready to go back, And I'm curious if a really 1191 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,160 Speaker 3: cool film could take the scales on that. 1192 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 2: I do think it's gonna happen. It's like when people 1193 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 2: started making post nine to eleven movies. 1194 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,120 Speaker 1: But there's still I feel like, like, what's a good 1195 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:12,920 Speaker 1: nine to eleven movie? 1196 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately all of them flopped. Well a good nine 1197 01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 2: eleven movie is Margarette, but all of them? Yes, Yes, 1198 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,720 Speaker 2: Who's gonna make the Margarette of Covid of like twenty 1199 01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 2: twenty at covid? 1200 01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,000 Speaker 3: Because that is what I want to see. Kenneth Lonergan, 1201 01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:31,000 Speaker 3: I'm sorry for calling you stride it. 1202 01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: Have you seen it? 1203 01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,479 Speaker 3: No, It's like one of my favorite movies. Oh watch 1204 01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,440 Speaker 3: the three and a half hour director's cut. It's like 1205 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 3: I went up to I don't do this. I went 1206 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,400 Speaker 3: up to end UPAC went at the Vanity for Oscar Party, 1207 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,880 Speaker 3: and I was just like, Margaret is one of my 1208 01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 3: favorite movies. Don't go up to a celebrity and say 1209 01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,880 Speaker 3: something like that unless you're sure it's something that they 1210 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,280 Speaker 3: don't hear every day, Yeah, because they will live if 1211 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,760 Speaker 3: like you have the thing that they don't hear every day, 1212 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,200 Speaker 3: if you do, you know, was. 1213 01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,160 Speaker 2: She happy to hear that from you? 1214 01:01:58,240 --> 01:01:58,439 Speaker 1: Yeah? 1215 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice, heaven, It's yeah. 1216 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 2: So I I wanna. I'm like, I want to get 1217 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,800 Speaker 2: to a grand theory of male acting because I do 1218 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:11,120 Speaker 2: think this is such a rich topic. 1219 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: Well okay, yeah, I think part of the issue is 1220 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: that it's like they're almost there as the they're like 1221 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,800 Speaker 1: a set piece, like it's less of a like it 1222 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,840 Speaker 1: does feel like they are the the ground and for 1223 01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:29,440 Speaker 1: the actress to. 1224 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:33,160 Speaker 2: This is what we're saying a genius because here's okay, 1225 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,720 Speaker 2: you see a poster for a movie, okay, and it's 1226 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:39,320 Speaker 2: all men in suits and then one woman in like 1227 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,520 Speaker 2: a low cut dress. The conventional critique of that is like, 1228 01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 2: look at fucking Hollywood. They it's all men and there's 1229 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 2: so funerals for women, which of course I get. But 1230 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 2: what I see is that everyone else is a set 1231 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 2: and this is a one woman show. 1232 01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 3: We're featuring other featuring. 1233 01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,240 Speaker 2: It's like it's her it's like American Hustle, and it's 1234 01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 2: it's Jennifer Lawrence. It's time for her to basically have 1235 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,480 Speaker 2: a variety of interactions with men that are kind of 1236 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:10,720 Speaker 2: like wooden and like don't say much, and then it's 1237 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,440 Speaker 2: time for her to be like listen to me, little boy. 1238 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then her doing that over this just like 1239 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Sunday morning that it doesn't sound much fun for the 1240 01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,760 Speaker 3: male actors. Is it that they exact so much that 1241 01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:25,520 Speaker 3: it doesn't matter? 1242 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,440 Speaker 2: No, I do wonder that. I'm like, it seems so 1243 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 2: much more fun to be an actress than That's why. 1244 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:33,160 Speaker 1: Like Leo, it's sort of an actress. He's like, I 1245 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: will do a movie with a bear totally because I 1246 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,160 Speaker 1: can't have I can't be background for an actress. 1247 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,520 Speaker 2: Which actors are actresses? 1248 01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:46,080 Speaker 3: Nicholas Cage, Nicholas Cage, it's literally like name an actor. 1249 01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Like Sebastian Stan. Sure, I think Sebastian Stan is an actress. 1250 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 3: Her snatch game in a different man. Yeah, did you 1251 01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,120 Speaker 3: see that was tight? I did not know that was 1252 01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 3: she in the prosthetiques. I could not she was. 1253 01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: How a soulka clock. She was being so long legs 1254 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:04,200 Speaker 2: in that film. 1255 01:04:04,480 --> 01:04:16,640 Speaker 3: Yes, clearly, like delights in versatility, like like she delights 1256 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:20,680 Speaker 3: in okay, playing a range, what are you taking me? 1257 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,000 Speaker 1: Strong? 1258 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:27,280 Speaker 3: This is tough because it's like she has a complicated, 1259 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,560 Speaker 3: fractured subjectivity that is actress. 1260 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:33,560 Speaker 1: Like, yes, exactly, that's true. Okay, Yeah, she's giving and 1261 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: she's torn apart in the media. 1262 01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 2: Of course, so it's like many women. 1263 01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:43,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, I oh, do you know who lars Ideger is? No, 1264 01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:48,360 Speaker 3: he's like he's like eure Vian like he does like 1265 01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:52,320 Speaker 3: art movies in theater and I'm sorry, no, no, this 1266 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 3: is super but like if you saw him, you would 1267 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:56,880 Speaker 3: like recognize his face. He does do some Hollywood he 1268 01:04:56,960 --> 01:05:00,480 Speaker 3: was in like the of that. Oh as like the 1269 01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:05,200 Speaker 3: actors he's crazy, okay, favorite actors. 1270 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:06,840 Speaker 2: Being written a note being. 1271 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,040 Speaker 1: Written a note? 1272 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:15,000 Speaker 2: Oh oh, or now that's interesting slic. 1273 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:18,360 Speaker 1: Mickey note. 1274 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:20,920 Speaker 3: You know, long legs are sort of reheating. Make your works, 1275 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 3: not make your work? 1276 01:05:26,200 --> 01:05:30,080 Speaker 2: I think, I think? Okay, do you think make your work? 1277 01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,160 Speaker 2: In the wrestler was being actor or actress? 1278 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,720 Speaker 3: I haven't seen it. 1279 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,480 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it either, So George, what do you 1280 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: think you're the only Also do you. 1281 01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:40,440 Speaker 2: Think Darren Aronofsky is a male or female director. 1282 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:49,880 Speaker 3: Female for making Black Swan male, basing it off of 1283 01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:53,640 Speaker 3: perfect blue snatches period. 1284 01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what what gender? Mother? 1285 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:04,080 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what gender? You? Okay? Mother, go well this 1286 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:07,680 Speaker 3: is a sidebar, mother, No I can't. I don't know. 1287 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,480 Speaker 3: I just love Jennifer Lards just like just like like, 1288 01:06:10,520 --> 01:06:15,600 Speaker 3: well baby, like that's the vibe. Yeah, yeah, that engrossing. 1289 01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:19,360 Speaker 2: The sink when when her sink is embraced, do you 1290 01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,200 Speaker 2: remember that's a big part of it is people keep 1291 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,560 Speaker 2: breaking her sink, keep heap sitting on the sink and 1292 01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 2: breaking it. 1293 01:06:27,960 --> 01:06:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean nothing, but that's talk top Kristen Wiggs performance. 1294 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,640 Speaker 1: Of course, I forgot about Christmas. Oh my god, yeah, 1295 01:06:34,800 --> 01:06:36,120 Speaker 1: what a what a beautiful performance. 1296 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm trying to think of male actresses. I'm trying. 1297 01:06:41,720 --> 01:06:43,640 Speaker 2: No, it's it's so tough. 1298 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,240 Speaker 3: It's really put you on the spot, and we really put. 1299 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:46,680 Speaker 1: You on the spot. 1300 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:52,960 Speaker 2: Huge Jackman. Oh you know that's more complicated. Hugh Jackman's 1301 01:06:52,960 --> 01:06:55,680 Speaker 2: relationship to gender and sexuality is something we are not 1302 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 2: going to speak out about. 1303 01:06:56,760 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 3: Why not? 1304 01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 2: Although now I do actually think he's in love with 1305 01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Sutton Foster. 1306 01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:05,920 Speaker 1: But do you think he actually is? Yes, Okay, mystery solved. 1307 01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:09,240 Speaker 3: Misjeff Manning, I think. 1308 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,320 Speaker 1: But his okay, Like, what's weird about him? Is playing 1309 01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,040 Speaker 1: Wolverine for so long? 1310 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,240 Speaker 2: I think Jake Joenhall is an actress. Oh sure, I 1311 01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,240 Speaker 2: think Jake Jollen Hall and like oak Ja, I think 1312 01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:25,480 Speaker 2: Jake Jillen Hall in Uh and Prisoners, Like he's not 1313 01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:29,240 Speaker 2: afraid to emote and he's not afraid to go full 1314 01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:30,160 Speaker 2: Jennifer Lawrence and. 1315 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,760 Speaker 1: Mother Well, and when he is playing like a really 1316 01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:36,120 Speaker 1: masculine man, it like reminds me of like, you know, 1317 01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:39,919 Speaker 1: when Demi Moore shaves her head, yes or whatever. It's 1318 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,320 Speaker 1: like I'm like, wow, he he can even be a man, 1319 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:43,480 Speaker 1: like I had no idea. 1320 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:46,360 Speaker 3: Adrian Brodie gave actress and the Brutalist and he gave 1321 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:47,240 Speaker 3: actress winning for it. 1322 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:55,800 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, yeah that was so actress coded. No I live? Yeah? No? 1323 01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:59,960 Speaker 3: Literally, why are all penises prosthetics? 1324 01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:00,360 Speaker 4: Now? 1325 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 3: I know? 1326 01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: Started like what happened to Bravery? 1327 01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:07,280 Speaker 3: Whatever happened to Cock? What I'm the wrong person? 1328 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 4: Now? 1329 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 3: Whatever happened to unreal Cock? 1330 01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm literally like why is it illegal to show a 1331 01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 1: real dick on screen? 1332 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:19,000 Speaker 2: And also it's like, okay, you don't want to show it, 1333 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,400 Speaker 2: don't show it, don't don't mess with me. I'm not 1334 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,519 Speaker 2: going to like write, I'm not going to complain if 1335 01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:24,719 Speaker 2: there's no cock in a film. 1336 01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,840 Speaker 3: I'm like, it's not okay. But do you think that 1337 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 3: they're making the prosthetics for the actors like their cock 1338 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 3: sight unseen or do you think they're Is it like 1339 01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 3: a weird part of casting where they're like looking at 1340 01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,800 Speaker 3: the actor and being like, this is the cock. 1341 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,080 Speaker 1: No, they are making gigantic cocks just left and right, 1342 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: and they are not They are not trying. They're not 1343 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,479 Speaker 1: going for realism at all. They're going for Humphrey Bogart, 1344 01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,840 Speaker 1: not Marlon Brando when it comes to their cock prosthetics 1345 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,439 Speaker 1: and it's kissing me. There's also this. 1346 01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:58,200 Speaker 2: Lack of uh, it's like not interacting with the actual 1347 01:08:58,200 --> 01:09:02,439 Speaker 2: reality of what flaccid versus erect looks like, what a 1348 01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 2: cock in repose looks like. 1349 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 1: I am like, have you guys seen this before? Like 1350 01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:08,280 Speaker 1: they don't look like that. 1351 01:09:08,360 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 2: It's actually sort of the opposite of you know, men 1352 01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,320 Speaker 2: not being able to write women and like, you know, 1353 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 2: doing some I don't know, being like, oh, she she's 1354 01:09:17,479 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 2: on her period or something. It's like why, Okay, so 1355 01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,280 Speaker 2: if everyone involved is a man, why don't they know 1356 01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:21,839 Speaker 2: what a penis? 1357 01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 3: And like, shouldn't somebody having a huge cock be like 1358 01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:30,680 Speaker 3: dramaturgically informed in the character. I feel like, you know, 1359 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 3: huge cocks are rare, and huge cock personalities are rare, 1360 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,680 Speaker 3: and I feel like the vibe of all of these 1361 01:09:39,760 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 3: huge cock prosthetics are like, well, this is what they 1362 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,000 Speaker 3: want to see, Like we want to see a huge cock, 1363 01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 3: but like, I don't know, Like Drew Starky's character in Queer, 1364 01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,480 Speaker 3: It's like, is that really like a huge cock character? Yeah? 1365 01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:54,560 Speaker 3: Like I mean, I get that he's like sexually desirable, 1366 01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:58,320 Speaker 3: but like I love, I love the idea that the 1367 01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,200 Speaker 3: sexual obsession that you know, Craig's character has for this 1368 01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,240 Speaker 3: character could exist for somebody with like a normal cock, 1369 01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,519 Speaker 3: for even a small cock, because it's not about the cock, 1370 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,080 Speaker 3: it's about the straight Yeah. 1371 01:10:08,880 --> 01:10:12,160 Speaker 2: I would say that is one of the major flaws 1372 01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,280 Speaker 2: in that film is that he is written as having 1373 01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,200 Speaker 2: a medium to small cock, like in the book or 1374 01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,439 Speaker 2: in the film, just like the character is written as 1375 01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,280 Speaker 2: having a medium to small cock, and that is the 1376 01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:25,759 Speaker 2: effect he would have on a Daniel Craig I actually 1377 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:29,280 Speaker 2: think Daniel Craig would be like put like it's afraid 1378 01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:32,800 Speaker 2: of a larger cock. Yes, in fact in reality, by 1379 01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,720 Speaker 2: the way, speaking of giant Cox, Willem Dafoe is an actress. 1380 01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:37,840 Speaker 1: Oh great, great point. 1381 01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:42,320 Speaker 3: I was across the Delta one aisle from him, flying 1382 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,640 Speaker 3: to la for Oscar weekend, and I really just like 1383 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:48,720 Speaker 3: wanted to say something, but I could not summon the 1384 01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,519 Speaker 3: like deep cut. I literally looked at my letter box 1385 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,120 Speaker 3: watch and I couldn't. Like I thought about being like, 1386 01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:56,840 Speaker 3: oh like I watched Anti Christ like alone in my 1387 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,439 Speaker 3: living room at like eleven thirty PM when I was fourteen, 1388 01:10:59,520 --> 01:11:01,640 Speaker 3: during that period where I was watching scary movies to 1389 01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 3: try to desensitize myself from fear of the dark, like 1390 01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,400 Speaker 3: I you know, thought about but I just couldn't because 1391 01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:10,960 Speaker 3: I respect him so much. And then I didn't shoot 1392 01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 3: my shot. And yeah, I may never get that chance. 1393 01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:15,519 Speaker 1: Oh you will. 1394 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:18,799 Speaker 3: One time when I was when I was at school, 1395 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,639 Speaker 3: I was like the Colubia Quad. I was like walking 1396 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 3: to like my morning class at like eight am, and 1397 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:31,960 Speaker 3: he was sitting on the steps of the library with 1398 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:35,000 Speaker 3: a coffee like in the sun with his eyes closed. 1399 01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 3: It was just really sweet. 1400 01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:39,439 Speaker 2: That's actress behavior. 1401 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:43,280 Speaker 3: I didn't say anything then, and I didn't say anything 1402 01:11:43,320 --> 01:11:46,040 Speaker 3: the second time, but like, well he's a listener, so 1403 01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,160 Speaker 3: if you want to send him the message really actually, 1404 01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:57,200 Speaker 3: Willem Defoe, thanks beautiful, thank you. 1405 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,920 Speaker 1: There's something so Lana del Ray lyric coded about saying 1406 01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I was sitting across from him in the Delta one lounge, and. 1407 01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:07,599 Speaker 3: Sitting across from the Delta one lounge is the men 1408 01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:09,720 Speaker 3: in Hollywood business? 1409 01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, should we do our final thing? 1410 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:14,760 Speaker 2: We have to, even though all I want is to 1411 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:17,240 Speaker 2: keep talking. I know, I mean to bring up Antichrist 1412 01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 2: within a conversation about cox and prosthetics, and then we 1413 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:21,920 Speaker 2: can't even. 1414 01:12:22,040 --> 01:12:23,200 Speaker 3: Do you Have you seen Anti Christ? 1415 01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 2: There is full a close up of penetration, but they 1416 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:29,719 Speaker 2: used porn actors to film it, even though Willem Defoe 1417 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:33,320 Speaker 2: very famously has a very large penis. 1418 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,680 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't know that. 1419 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:36,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like a sort of Hollywood lore. 1420 01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:39,280 Speaker 1: Well, you know, and I want to shout out to 1421 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:46,800 Speaker 1: Lars Montreer for Niphomaniac showing you know that watched with 1422 01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:48,559 Speaker 1: my stepdad and. 1423 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:50,240 Speaker 3: He was. 1424 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:54,280 Speaker 1: You know, that was a lot of real talks, and 1425 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,320 Speaker 1: I said, thank you. 1426 01:12:55,479 --> 01:12:57,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to the Dogma movement. We're doing that 1427 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:58,720 Speaker 2: for podcasting, so we get it. 1428 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:04,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, the way that I was guarded for Nifomniac 1429 01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,679 Speaker 1: one and two, I was like, I am I'm sad. 1430 01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:11,639 Speaker 2: You know on what Uma Thurman? There's no time. Actually, 1431 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,160 Speaker 2: Uma Thurman is actress being actor being actress, and I'm 1432 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,160 Speaker 2: not going to elaborate on that. 1433 01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:25,639 Speaker 1: Wow, it's later, Victoria. Yeah, no, it's lon And Okay, 1434 01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: should we do our final sag? 1435 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:28,160 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1436 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:36,200 Speaker 1: Okay, what is the Joe DiDio quote. 1437 01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:38,759 Speaker 3: That it's not a part of my world? 1438 01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Wow? 1439 01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:44,559 Speaker 4: Okay. 1440 01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,400 Speaker 1: Our final segment was called shout Outs, and in this 1441 01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: segment we pay homage to the grand straight tradition of 1442 01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,800 Speaker 1: the radio shout out, shouting out to anything people place 1443 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: these things ideas just something that we like and I 1444 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,559 Speaker 1: can we make them up on the spot, George, that's 1445 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:00,240 Speaker 1: a part of that. 1446 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:01,280 Speaker 2: We make them up on the spot. 1447 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:02,000 Speaker 1: Kick us off. 1448 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:03,640 Speaker 3: I want to give a shout. 1449 01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:05,880 Speaker 2: Out to Checkof's string cheese. 1450 01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:06,719 Speaker 1: Wow. 1451 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:10,880 Speaker 2: You know everyone's been wondering is it going to be 1452 01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 2: eaten by the end of the episode, because that is 1453 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,920 Speaker 2: of course what check Off string Cheese means. And I'm 1454 01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,160 Speaker 2: here to tell you that I'm going to take a 1455 01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 2: huge bite Lady Gaga style on air. Oh my god, 1456 01:14:21,680 --> 01:14:24,080 Speaker 2: absolutely delicious. Thank you so much for everyone that has 1457 01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,160 Speaker 2: made this moment possible. 1458 01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:26,360 Speaker 3: And shout out to string Trees. 1459 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,519 Speaker 2: Honestly one of the most underrated an accident not. 1460 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:33,000 Speaker 1: Underrated by me, right in the top five. I go, Okay, 1461 01:14:33,400 --> 01:14:35,800 Speaker 1: what's up, presuchs and perverts around the globe. I want 1462 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:39,560 Speaker 1: to give a huge shout out to the raw sensuality 1463 01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:42,599 Speaker 1: of riding a New York subway and seeing someone across 1464 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 1: the train and be like, oh, let's try to make 1465 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 1: eyes and then be like, what am I doing? I'm 1466 01:14:46,640 --> 01:14:48,720 Speaker 1: running link my podcast? Why am I making eyes a 1467 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:51,240 Speaker 1: stranger across the subway? And then be like, because it's 1468 01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 1: New York and anything can happen. And I was feeling yes, 1469 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: I was running late, but when I eventually found peace, 1470 01:14:58,000 --> 01:15:00,320 Speaker 1: and I said, but you know, at least I seeing 1471 01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: someone hot in this train, and that changes so much 1472 01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,320 Speaker 1: for Ondes day. And you know, in LA you don't 1473 01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:07,880 Speaker 1: see anyone hot because they're in cars, and here you 1474 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 1: see people who are hot every damn second, and it's 1475 01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: almost overwhelming. So I want to give a huge shout 1476 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:14,719 Speaker 1: out to that feeling. 1477 01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:18,479 Speaker 3: Whoa you know where you don't see people who are hot? 1478 01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:19,000 Speaker 1: Where? 1479 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:24,599 Speaker 3: All right, ladies, gentlemen say them's and germs and everyone else. 1480 01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 3: I want to shout out to Midtown in the middle 1481 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,160 Speaker 3: of the morning. It is always two thousand and four. 1482 01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,160 Speaker 3: You are in Tyra Banks's New York. You are inside 1483 01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,160 Speaker 3: of Heidi Clewtman, Tim Blanks's New York. You are on 1484 01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 3: your Suddenly I see Andy Sacks. You have somewhere to be. 1485 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 3: You are in a hat, you are drinking coffee out 1486 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,280 Speaker 3: of a blue Greek coffee club, and you are on Broadway. 1487 01:15:46,720 --> 01:16:01,080 Speaker 3: How dare the diners are open? Pods in the diners? Wow? 1488 01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:03,360 Speaker 3: That was stunning. 1489 01:16:03,680 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Harry, thank you so much for doing 1490 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,400 Speaker 1: the pod. This has been a real true This has. 1491 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:12,160 Speaker 2: Been an absolute delight. Thank you for uh being gracious 1492 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:15,880 Speaker 2: with us being late. Thank you for bringing literally upwards 1493 01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:21,240 Speaker 2: of twelve topics. Thank you for doing Joan Didion as share. 1494 01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: That was really inspired. And if that doesn't get you 1495 01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:27,719 Speaker 1: drag race, then like someone's head will roll, Hi, I cannot. 1496 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:30,960 Speaker 2: I actually, I'm actually so annoyed that that that you 1497 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:31,840 Speaker 2: have not been on Dragon. 1498 01:16:31,960 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: No, there's just no justice in this time. 1499 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:36,080 Speaker 3: No. I but I have so much respect for like 1500 01:16:36,160 --> 01:16:39,240 Speaker 3: rupe Paul's sensibility and like the people that like enter 1501 01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,680 Speaker 3: Rupeaul's algorithm, Like I know that I have not entered that, 1502 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,920 Speaker 3: and I don't want to be on there till I do. 1503 01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:46,280 Speaker 3: I earned it. 1504 01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:49,600 Speaker 2: Wait until she sees a real an Instagram reel of 1505 01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 2: you doing Joe Didion as share because that phone is going. 1506 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,439 Speaker 3: To be ringing. Mama, I don't know. Get your ass 1507 01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:58,919 Speaker 3: to Midtown for another blowout. 1508 01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Girls, it's not Susie too, it's saying your cerebral. 1509 01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,599 Speaker 3: Sasha bealor before her. Well, yes, thank you so much 1510 01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 3: for having me. I am promoting absolutely nothing right, that's 1511 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,439 Speaker 3: a huge shout out. I mean, you know there are secrets, 1512 01:17:16,439 --> 01:17:17,519 Speaker 3: but I can't. 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