1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome to the Granger Smith Podcast, Episode 2 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: thirty four. Thanks for watching, thanks for listening. I'm grateful 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,799 Speaker 1: to have this platform to be able to talk, especially 4 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: in crazy time like this. And for those of you 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: that have watched or listened to all the previous ones before, 6 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: or at least many of them, thank you for letting 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 1: me be a part of your Monday morning. I hope 8 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: that a lot of you are commuting again. If you 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: weren't working before, I hope that you are working again 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: as these states are slowly starting to open up and 11 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: we're seeing hope, and we are seeing what we knew 12 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: was going to happen all along. That's only a matter 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: of when, not if, we get back to normal. We 14 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,960 Speaker 1: like to reject the idea of the new normal and 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: the new way of life that is false. Reject that 16 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: we're going to get back to just the way we were, 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: because that's what we will believe, and the majority of 18 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 1: us will believe that we'll make it through this, be 19 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: better for it, and be back to normal. So thank you, guys. 20 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: I want to tell you that some exciting things going 21 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: on with me and the band. We are going to 22 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: be starting live stream shows starting tonight Monday night, starting tonight. 23 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: If you're watching this or listening to this podcast real time, uh, 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: we will be doing this live stream tonight and we're 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: very excited to be able to give you a free 26 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: viewing of a show. We are going to offer a 27 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: virtual tip jar, a virtual pickle jar, as I'll probably say, 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: because back in the old days, we only we only 29 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: lived on tips, and so we would pass around a 30 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: pickle jar with said band tips on the side. And 31 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: we're kind of we've resorted, We've we've gone back to that. So, uh, 32 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: I'm almost embarrassed. I get I get clamming when I 33 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: start talking about it, but I got to ask for 34 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: tips again. That's that's the state of the world, at 35 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: least a state of touring and what it's come down to. 36 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: So this is this is going straight to the band. 37 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: We've done well. I like to say, we've done well, 38 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 1: but we haven't done well enough to maintain twelve weeks 39 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: or whatever it's been since the last gig and continue 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: to pay health insurance and everything that these guys need 41 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: to survive. So we'll be passing around a virtual tip 42 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: jar in the form of Venmo. I created a Venmo 43 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 1: account at granger Smith and so you could you can 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: go to at Grangersmith on Vinco or venmo dot com 45 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: forward slash granger Smith a dollar or two as you 46 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: watch the show. If you don't like the show, you 47 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: don't have to donate anything. But in otherwise it's not 48 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: it's it's not required or anything, or we're gonna We're 49 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: gonna offer it for free because I know this is 50 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: a crazy time, but I'd like to say that it's 51 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: it's important that also that we just get together and play. 52 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: You know that we go through some of these songs 53 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: and we take request. If you have a request, comment below. 54 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, comment below. And we'll try 55 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: to build the set list each week. If we do, 56 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: say Monday today, if we do one Thursday day, and 57 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: I think that might be a good pattern. It's like 58 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: Mondays and Thursdays. We'll do a set and we will 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: make it where we change environments all at the Eyegee Farm, 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: and we change instrumentations. So we might do a full band, 61 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 1: we might do acoustics, we might do some older throwback songs. 62 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,239 Speaker 1: It's gonna be really fun. It's gonna be really fun. 63 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: So speaking of live concerts and tips. It's very, very 64 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: very important to know that if we're going to do 65 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: a live stream and if I'm gonna ask for tips, 66 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna hear it from me personally through the podcast 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: or through social media or on my website. You will 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: hear it from me. And the reason I say that 69 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: is we did hear about at least one scam, and 70 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure there's others of people impersonating me or impersonating 71 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: other celebrities and asking for tips or some kind of 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: charity support, or that they're going to do a live stream. 73 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: I think there was one we heard of that was 74 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: a live stream that was actually all a big hoax. 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: It wasn't me at all. So if you see something 76 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: come up with me as a live stream, it's fake. 77 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Get out of it. You know, if you see something 78 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 1: about me asking money for a charity, it's fake. You're 79 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: only going to hear that from my mouth on my 80 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: socials with the blue check. Always look for the blue check. 81 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: All that being said, we're pumped if we make zero 82 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: dollar tips where it's worth it for us just to 83 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: play and have fun and get back with the guys 84 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: and play some music again. You know, something that we've 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: all been doing for decades that suddenly has stopped. So 86 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: we'll be back and all that is going to transition 87 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: into today's podcast. I'm bringing Dusty Saxon on here, and 88 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: you guys are going to love to hear what he 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: has to say. He is a very interesting guy. He's 90 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: actually a really funny guy in certain environments. One of 91 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: the funniest guys I've ever met. If you get to 92 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: know him and you listen to him long enough, he 93 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: will say he's very smart, very witty, and he has 94 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: to be smart and witty to know how he does 95 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: these drums, how he operates. It's multitasking all these drums, 96 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: running a laptop computer at the same time and remembering everything. 97 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: He never forgets. If you've seen us play, he never forgets. 98 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: I do all the time. So he's an interesting dude, 99 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: small town guy from Loreena, Texas. Without further ado, you 100 00:05:21,200 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: guys are gonna like this one. Dusty Saxon time, long line, 101 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: humping down, going back, crazy cool shun. When Earl Didviles 102 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 1: Junior was kind of on the rise, and people do 103 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: interviews with me and they would be like, man, you're 104 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 1: so funny. I can't believe it's so funny where it's 105 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 1: all laughing. You know, were you always like the funniest 106 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: guy in your class? Were you like the class clown 107 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: growing up? And I would always say, man, I'm not 108 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: even like the third or fourth funniest guy on my bus. 109 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: And so if I was gonna rank the funny guys, 110 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: I think you'd be number one. But you're the most 111 00:06:54,320 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: unassuming funny guy because you're generally kind of quiet, and 112 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 1: people almost have to get to know you. Don't you think, yeah, 113 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: I'm not just funny any just all the time. I 114 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: guess my my Instagram bio actually says sometimes funny, So 115 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: that explains it. So you're unassuming funny, But also you don't. 116 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: You don't come to the world and say, listen, I 117 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: want to be a I want to be a comedian. 118 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: But those that know Dusty Saxon, well, I've spent time 119 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: with you. It's like these moments late at night, late 120 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: on the bus, when it's quiet, when there's a bunch 121 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: of people and no one say anything. You're always the 122 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 1: one that has their the words that just get everyone rolling. Well, 123 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I I'm never I'm not just funny without I'm not 124 00:07:57,160 --> 00:08:01,320 Speaker 1: just funny. I have to be. I take something someone 125 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: says and it'll trigger something funny in my mind, or 126 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: like even with even with music, I can't write a song, 127 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 1: but I could take a song and make it better 128 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: like I could. Somebody might say something that that makes 129 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: me think of something funny, and I'll take it the 130 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: rest of the way. I don't know. I can't just 131 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: walk into a room and be funny like a comedian, 132 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: but I could walk into a room with my friends 133 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:33,199 Speaker 1: and jump into a conversation and turn that conversation into 134 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: something funny. Yeah, it's interesting that it's like different, there's 135 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: different forms of comedy, and yours is definitely not the 136 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: walk in the room class clown, Like you weren't class 137 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 1: clown in high school. I'm sure, no, definitely not. But 138 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,960 Speaker 1: we so a lot of people don't know. We have 139 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,840 Speaker 1: something in the band called the quote Book, and it's 140 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: something we've kept over several years, and we sometimes it's written, 141 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: sometimes we have it on our phones, but regardless, we 142 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 1: collect funny things that have been said and random times. 143 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: And you probably are the king of quote books, like 144 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: you're the king of one liners. And maybe one day 145 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: we'll go through and do a different podcast. It's like 146 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 1: Dusty Saxon quotes. Yeah, but tell me, like your story 147 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 1: is always so fascinating and I always learn more Abouue. 148 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: I've known you for about almost ten years now, yeah, 149 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: almost ten. Yeah, I've been in the band almost eight. 150 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,840 Speaker 1: We met you were playing with the country act Brandon Ryder, 151 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: and but I'd known you before that. Our sound guy 152 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: Frank had worked with you in a band called Ember, 153 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: a rock band, and so I'd always heard these legendary 154 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:48,359 Speaker 1: stories of you as this crazy drummer. That's that's very outgoing. 155 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,040 Speaker 1: You know, you throw sticks up, you catch them, you 156 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 1: twirl them, you like make faces to the crowd, you 157 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,640 Speaker 1: point at people. You you are very a big, huge 158 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: personality on stage, but then when you talk to you 159 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: one on one, you're a pretty reserved, pretty quiet. So 160 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: so tell me the story of how Dustin turned it 161 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: into the legendary Dusty Saxon rock star. That's That's It's 162 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,679 Speaker 1: funny that you bring up that way because I've actually 163 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 1: when I was younger, like in high school, I would 164 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: kind of refer to it in my head as the 165 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: Dusty Saxton switch, Like when you turn on Dusty and 166 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: when you turn it off. And that came from when 167 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: when I was in I've always I was born to 168 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 1: be in a band. I was born to be a musician. 169 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: I was from I mean, I started playing drums when 170 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 1: I was two, and no one in my house ever 171 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,760 Speaker 1: told me to stop or told me to turn it down, 172 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,920 Speaker 1: even when I was out of high school and struck 173 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: out to join any band, no matter what type of music. 174 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: I just wanted to be in a band that was serious. 175 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: But where at some point in your life someone in 176 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: your family steps up and says, hey, do you really 177 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: want to do this the rest of your life? Or like, 178 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: is this really going anywhere? And for some reason, no 179 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: one in my family ever ever stopped me from doing it. 180 00:11:29,200 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: Nobody ever, nobody ever told me, hey, maybe this isn't 181 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: going to work out, or maybe you shouldn't. And it 182 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: wasn't working out. It was a long enough, it was 183 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: a long, a long road, And to me, it was 184 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: always when it really got bad, when there were no 185 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: gigs or I was ultimately broke, the fear of not 186 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: doing it, the fear of going back to a day job, 187 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: or the fear of giving up, was always worse than 188 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: whatever situation I was currently in that's the truth right there. 189 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: So I just never, like even at the like at 190 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: the end of a hard day or at the end 191 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: of a hard week, I was always I just I 192 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: guess I would just never. I don't know when you 193 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: when you finally find what path you want to go down, 194 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: you if you can't let yourself give up, or you 195 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: can't let yourself even think about giving up. And that's 196 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: the story man behind so much, so much, whether it's athletes, musicians, 197 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: anybody that has really good success, you hear that same thing, 198 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: that that the fear of not doing your dream and 199 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 1: living out what you've always thought you were supposed to 200 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: do is always greater than the worst day, the worst 201 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: practice if you're athlete, the worst gig if you're a musician. 202 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: And that's what has people ask me like, how do 203 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,040 Speaker 1: you what's your key to success? I was just like, 204 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: I just never stopped. I wasn't more talented, I wasn't smarter. 205 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: I just went longer than all my friends that were 206 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: doing it exactly, And you don't you have to not 207 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: surround yourself with people that make you want to stop. 208 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:29,120 Speaker 1: Because I was so dedicated to my dream or my idea, 209 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: my path that I wanted to live. That it was 210 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: hard to be friends with me if you weren't also 211 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: on that same page. So like I you know, people 212 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: that other musicians or even other bands I was in 213 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 1: that where the other members, whether they weren't quite as 214 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: motivated as me, or even if they just were motivated 215 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: to do other things like have a family or a 216 00:13:54,480 --> 00:14:01,319 Speaker 1: house or anything else like the I just I didn't 217 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: attract friends that. I mean, it was very hard to 218 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: be friends with me if you weren't on board with 219 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: or or if you couldn't understand what it's like to 220 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: be fully on board date with something really hard. So 221 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: that that brings up a point. Tell me about the 222 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: amount of time you've spent homeless on purpose, like not 223 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: not sidewalk homeless multiple times multiple times in my life 224 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: you've made a living or you've made a lifestyle at 225 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: some point, not now, but in your past literally living 226 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: on friends couches. Yeah, I mean when I was, like 227 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: I said, from from a from a very young age, 228 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I mean from kindergarten, I wanted to be a drummer 229 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: in a band, and my whole childhood I struggled with 230 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: what does that even mean? How do you you just 231 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: find a band, do you start a band? And like 232 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I said, I'm not the type of person who is 233 00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: I don't have these original ideas from the beginning. I 234 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:08,720 Speaker 1: don't have a lot of I don't have a lot 235 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: of ideas that start from the ground up, or if 236 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I do, they start from the ground up and they 237 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: go a quarter of the way. But I can, like 238 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: from a I didn't know. I had no concept in 239 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: my mind of how to start a career as a drummer. 240 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: And then once I was in once I was in 241 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 1: high school, I started playing in bands, but we didn't 242 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: make any money, and our shows were in high school 243 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 1: gyms and parking lots and things. And when when I 244 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 1: discovered I remember the first gig I ever got paid 245 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 1: to play, and it was in college station and I 246 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: was playing bass for a reggae band and the singer 247 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: came up at the end of the show and the 248 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: singer gave me twenty bucks and he said, I said, 249 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: what's this for it? And he said, well, the bar said, 250 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: we sold this much alcohol while we were playing, and 251 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: they paid us one hundred bucks. So we split it 252 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: five ways. Each one of us gets twenty bucks. And 253 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, because honestly, that night, I had 254 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: driven to college station and I didn't have enough gas 255 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: to get home, so I was going to have to, 256 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: like I don't know, drive my car till it ran 257 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: out of gas and call someone to come pick me up. 258 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 1: And that twenty bucks, that unexpected twenty bucks, was what 259 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: got me home that night. And then when once I, 260 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: once I moved moved away from home and joined my 261 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: serious rock band, I was only twenty years old or 262 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: twenty one years old, so I wasn't I was. I 263 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 1: wasn't making much money as a twenty one year old, 264 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: so I never really got the taste of what it's 265 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,240 Speaker 1: like to live in your own house or buy your 266 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: own car. I was living off of nothing. I was 267 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: already broke. So to go from a broke kid working 268 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: a job you hate, to go from an equally to 269 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 1: go to an equally broke kid working a job that 270 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: you love, it was there was no question in my mind, 271 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: like I didn't want to go back to working a 272 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: day job. I wanted to continue doing what I was doing. 273 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: So when when the the rock band got started, you know, 274 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: took off to a certain point, it got more and 275 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 1: more successful, to the point where I didn't have I 276 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't have a day job, which, of course in rock 277 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: bands once you get once you reach that point, it 278 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: starts going downhill, right, and you know, the shows, The 279 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: shows got fewer and more far between, the crowd started 280 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 1: getting thinner, and the paychecks got smaller, and I had 281 00:17:57,320 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: to move out of the house that I was living 282 00:17:59,880 --> 00:18:04,520 Speaker 1: in and for the first time had to be homeless, 283 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: living in you know, living in my car. But the 284 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: way I did it was the band still had shows Thursday, Friday, Saturday, 285 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,639 Speaker 1: and Sunday. We played acoustic shows on Sunday, so I 286 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: would only have to I would only have to find 287 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: somewhere to sleep Monday night, Tuesday night, Wednesday night, because 288 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: Thursday we'd be back on the road. So it really 289 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: was it was like, I can't afford the house I'm 290 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: living in now I have to move out, So there's 291 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: no way I'm going to be able to afford my 292 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: own place and I'm only going to be there three 293 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 1: days a week. Yeah, And so that began the mindset 294 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: that would follow me throughout my whole life of why 295 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 1: am I going to pay rent on an apartment that 296 00:18:54,440 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm never at? Yeah, And the biggest enemy of success 297 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: in that way is a fallback plan. Yeah, like my 298 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: father in law's got a job, my dad's got a 299 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: job for me waiting, or I've got a really nice 300 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,959 Speaker 1: place to stay yet I don't really want to hit 301 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: the road again. But when you don't have a fall 302 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 1: fallback plan, or you seriously reject that fallback plan, you 303 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,680 Speaker 1: just do it. You did whatever cost. Yeah, No, Drums 304 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: was always my main, main dream, my main objective. I mean, 305 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: and I tried to be a guitar player. I tried 306 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 1: to be a bass player. But when it really came 307 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: down to it and I was like, Okay, I want 308 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: to actually make a living with my talent or make 309 00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: a living with my hobby, I had to really pick 310 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: the thing that I was most naturally talented at that 311 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: was gonna, you know, the thing that I felt like 312 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,200 Speaker 1: I was actually born to do. Obviously, I wanted to 313 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: make them. I want to I want to make a 314 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: living playing music, and I could do it any so 315 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: many different ways. I had to pick the one that 316 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: was the most natural for me, the one that was 317 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: the one that where I had to think the less 318 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: and I think the least, and drums was the it 319 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: was the most natural way for me to do that. 320 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: And but you also actually really are a talented guitar player, 321 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: bass player, singer, and you have probably more than all that. 322 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: You have a really good ear and you could hear 323 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: notes and melodies and where everyone knows you you know, 324 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: beats and rhythm, but you have really good ear. And 325 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: and so, for for instance, our song America, me and 326 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,800 Speaker 1: you kind of wrote that and then you took it. 327 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: And there was an old rock song that you had written, 328 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: don't know that, don't do that. And you played all 329 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: those guitars. So the demo of America was actually you 330 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: playing all the instruments. Yeah, and yeah, the instruments, the solo, yeah, yeah, everything. 331 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 1: So what made you lock in on drums? I mean, 332 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 1: drums is by far the hardest to set up and 333 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: carry and play. It takes a huge endurance to play. 334 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: And when we play hot shows, I'm always looking back 335 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: at you and I'm thinking I'm hot, and then I 336 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,359 Speaker 1: remember you're back there slamming drums. Yeah. Wells it was 337 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: you know when I moved, when I moved away from home, 338 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,439 Speaker 1: moved to Austin to be a professional musician. There, I 339 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: would I met some guitar players that had moved to 340 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,160 Speaker 1: Austin to do the same thing, and I was. Even 341 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: though I may have been able to play, you know, 342 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: I was a good player. I didn't have the mind 343 00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,640 Speaker 1: of a guitar player. I couldn't communicate the two other 344 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: guitar players. I didn't know the notes, I didn't know 345 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: all the chords. I could probably jump in with a 346 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 1: guitar and jump into your band and do a good job, 347 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:17,159 Speaker 1: but compared to other guitar players, I really was not 348 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: up to part. But on drums, I had been in 349 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: drumline and a high school band, so I knew. I 350 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: knew what rudiments were, I knew what I knew what 351 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: time signatures were, I knew what tempo was. How I 352 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: knew more about drums, so that if I was gonna 353 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:41,159 Speaker 1: jump into the professional music world, I knew that I 354 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,120 Speaker 1: could communicate better on drums. I knew that I would 355 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: excel more on drums. It was just what I naturally played. 356 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like if you were a baseball player or 357 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 1: a football player, and you were a naturally good pitcher 358 00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: or a naturally good quarterback or a naturally good receiver, 359 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 1: or if you had really good speed, you wouldn't want 360 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: to have a dream of being a lineman or something, 361 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: you know, Like I had to really focus on what 362 00:23:10,760 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: am I naturally good at, the best at what is 363 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: going to take me the furthest and drums was that 364 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: and that's why I always settled on it. It's also 365 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: why I play have always played a crazy big drum set, 366 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: because one it reminds me of high school band ays 367 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: where you had to assemble your percussion section based off 368 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: of what songs you played, not just show up to 369 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 1: a gig with the same drum set. Like when our 370 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: shows got bigger and crazier, my drum set got bigger 371 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,919 Speaker 1: and crazier. When the shows are smaller and quieter, I 372 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: sometimes try to play a smaller, quieter drum set. I 373 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: try to play to the room and to the crowd, 374 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: and that just become that just is from me not 375 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: wanting to be an annoying drummer. I don't want to 376 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 1: be the drummer that shows up to the dinner gig 377 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: with a massive loud you know, and play too loud. 378 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 1: And that that comes from being a guitar player and 379 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: being a drummer in other bands with or being you know, 380 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: in other bands where I wasn't playing drums. One of 381 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: my greatest accomplishments in my music career is keeping Dusty 382 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: Saxon in the band. I remember when I when I 383 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: first got you, I was kind of in a bind, 384 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 1: and you just happened to be in between gigs you were. 385 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: You were just off the road with Evans Blue, yep, 386 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: and so you had like a month that you could 387 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: pick up some gigs and make some cash. And so 388 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: I wasn't thinking long term as you my drummer. I 389 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 1: was thinking, this is going to buy me some time. 390 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 1: In fact, we were auditioning drummers with you in the band, 391 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: like you were the sit in drummer that was also 392 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: all of our friend and you were going to help 393 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: us find a drummer. It just so happened that along 394 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,320 Speaker 1: the way we were gaining popularity quickly, and like the 395 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 1: stars aligned where your Evans Blue gig ran out. And 396 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 1: I remember one time somewhere in some town, in some 397 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: crappy green room, you said I'm gonna play Arenas, whether 398 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,680 Speaker 1: it's with you or not. And I remember thinking, God, challenge, 399 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: challenge accepted. And you didn't say that like in a 400 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: demeaning way to us, You're just kind of letting me 401 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: know my hey man, my goal is to play drums 402 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: in an arena, and I will go there and I 403 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: will find a way to do that, whether you're the 404 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: train I'm on or not. I think that I'm trying 405 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: to remember the context of that. I think it was Tyler. 406 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: I think Tyler was saying something about how Tyler was 407 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: taught was I think Tyler was saying something about like, 408 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: how do we get to this level, or how do 409 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: we want to do this someday or you know, if 410 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: you're not, if you're not dreaming of that level now, 411 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: then you need to get out because this is this 412 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,280 Speaker 1: is where we want to be. And I think that 413 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: was My response was, well, I'm going to play arenas, 414 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: whether it's with this band or not. Because when my 415 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: rock band ended, a lot of a lot of musicians 416 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: from If you're not from a music city, if you're 417 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: not from Nashville or New York or La or I 418 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:37,120 Speaker 1: guess Austin, you can't. You You get like people don't 419 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: know how musicians work outside of being in a band, 420 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: and you have like the idea of being truly freelance, 421 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: A truly freelance drummer was totally foreign to me. In 422 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: the beginning. I thought you had to join a band, 423 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: and your band had to be successful, and if the 424 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: band ended, you ended. And I had to learn how 425 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: to how to become just Dusty Saxon the drummer, not 426 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,800 Speaker 1: Dusty Saxon the drummer of this band or of that band. Right, 427 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: you built a brand yourself, like you came up with 428 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: the logo, a website, the whole bit. You branded yourself. Yeah, 429 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: and that I learned that from being on a on 430 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: a you know, when I was a kid, I was 431 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: on a soccer team and even if if you only 432 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: you know, if the team did bad, everybody did bad 433 00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: or you know. And when I joined a band, my 434 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,919 Speaker 1: first rock band, that's kind of how it felt. It 435 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: was like if the band, if the band takes a dive, 436 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: we all take a dive. And I wanted something that 437 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,439 Speaker 1: would have more longevity to it. And I had to 438 00:27:54,520 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 1: learn how to survive without a band and get gig 439 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: get gigs. Just had to figure out how to make 440 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 1: people call, how to make these back. There was no 441 00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 1: fallback plan, and so when when the when my paycheck 442 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: got too small or quit quit at all, quit coming 443 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: at all. I had to figure out like there were 444 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: some weeks where when I had my last gig on Sunday, 445 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: if I didn't have another gig till Thursday, I would 446 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: just be like, well, I've just got to sit and 447 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:37,679 Speaker 1: do nothing for three days or four days. And that's 448 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: that's I think the number one reason that I could 449 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: have given up was just waiting it out. Because when 450 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: you're when you're trying to make your freelance talent a career, 451 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 1: you don't always have gigs coming in in the beginning. 452 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: And they come, they come so sporadically. You might have 453 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: you might have only Fridays and Saturdays, and so what 454 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: are you going to do in the meantime? What are 455 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: you going to do? Waiting all week for your for 456 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: your you know, your gig or your show. And to me, 457 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: that was sit and look for other shows. It wasn't 458 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: you know, And literally I would I would I would 459 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: sleep somewhere in my car, wake up, go to the 460 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: first bar or restaurant that had an outdoor patio and 461 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: sit outside and drink doctor pepper and remember that and 462 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: look and just literally have my computer wide open, reloading 463 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: Facebook every ten minutes, looking for people posting about drummer gigs, 464 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: and I didn't care how much it paid because I 465 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: was just sitting doing nothing and I had I had, 466 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, my Friday Saturday gigs that would pay me 467 00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:12,239 Speaker 1: enough to eat all week. But if you know, I 468 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: was making impressions on new musicians was way more important 469 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 1: than getting paid, because if I could, if I could 470 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: play a show with a new group of musicians I'd 471 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: never played with before, there was a good chance that 472 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: one of those guys was going to call me for 473 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: something in the future. And when I look back on 474 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: it now, not one gig that I ever took was 475 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: pointless because even when I was playing blues gigs downtown 476 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Sixth Street on Austin for no guaranteed money, now that 477 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: I look back, it was like, oh, the first show 478 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: I played downtown on Sixth Street, I was filling in 479 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: on drums, but the bass player was also filling in, 480 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: and he didn't play for that band. He played for 481 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: a different band that was also just had some slow times. 482 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: And eventually, you know, two months down the road, that 483 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: bass player would call me because his other band needed 484 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: a fill in drummer. I remember a guy I played 485 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: on Sixth Street. Because when as a drummer, if you 486 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: can step in and help a band out when they 487 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: when they're stranded and don't have someone, then that they'll 488 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: never forget that. And everyone in that band that I 489 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: just caught a random blues gig with, everyone in that 490 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: band called me again to do the same thing at 491 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 1: some point, and you know, and maybe I didn't make 492 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 1: any money that night, but it got me. He made 493 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,720 Speaker 1: the impression. Yeah, I made the impression. And people say, oh, 494 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:56,480 Speaker 1: I don't want to get up off the couch unless 495 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: it pays one hundred bucks. I didn't even have a couch. 496 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 1: I was in my car. I was sitting. I would 497 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: be sleeping in my car somewhere so good with the 498 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: drums in the trunk. I mean, I'm amazed that my 499 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: drums never got stolen out of my car. I mean 500 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: they probably because you were sleeping with them. I know 501 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,719 Speaker 1: I was sleeping sleeping with them. And you've continued to 502 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: this day to grow that brand. And right now on 503 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 1: your YouTube channel, you have some really good videos that 504 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 1: you've been making that I've never really known this side. 505 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: I mean, you're pretty good at anything you do, especially 506 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: tech stuff or or music stuff. But I was really 507 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: blown away by these videos. What's your YouTube page? Just 508 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 1: Dusty Sacks, Dusty Sacked, and you and and you're you've 509 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 1: been doing these these rig rundowns your your whole drum set, 510 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: but they're built in a way that incorporates storytelling of 511 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: where you came from and how you became a drummer, 512 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: and you are elaborating on It's basically like an autobiography 513 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 1: built into how you're building your drum set over the 514 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: years as it's changed with different bands. And that's like 515 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 1: the last one you put out. I sat there and 516 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: at the end of it, I was like, I just 517 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 1: watched ten minutes of Dusty telling me about his life. 518 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: And I've known this guy for ten years and I 519 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 1: just watched it for ten minutes. So it's really good. 520 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: If you guys want to see that, it's put together 521 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: really well. Yeah, I've got I've got more come in. 522 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: I've got another one, part three, which will finally wrap 523 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 1: up the rig rundown about the actual current drum set. 524 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,720 Speaker 1: Like you said, I've I've I've always wanted to tell 525 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: these stories, but I guess I never thought that I 526 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: had reached a level where anyone would actually learn from me, 527 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: because I was still learning. But now with everything, with 528 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: all the touring shut down and the industry kind of 529 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: at a halt, I've been thinking like, Wow, if this 530 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: had happened at any earlier point in my career, I 531 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: don't know if I would be able to make it 532 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 1: through this or even to start back up again. Like 533 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,759 Speaker 1: if this had happened in two thousand and eight or 534 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: nine or ten, when I was on a couch somewhere 535 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: and had no money and then all of a sudden 536 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: all the gigs stopped, I don't know what I would 537 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: have done. I don't know if I would have ever 538 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 1: started back up again. But looking back, there was nothing 539 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: as big, and there was nothing as big as what's 540 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 1: currently happening, But there were other things that happened, whether 541 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, when I had to move out and had 542 00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:52,800 Speaker 1: to decide am I gonna Am I going to abandon 543 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,919 Speaker 1: everything and go get a job at Guitar Center and 544 00:34:56,680 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 1: quit touring and not be available for all these gigs? 545 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:04,839 Speaker 1: Or am I gonna figure out a way to keep 546 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,280 Speaker 1: going and figure out a way to survive through whatever 547 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 1: little thing this is. And as the band's got bigger, 548 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 1: problems got bigger. I mean, you know, it's like Tyler 549 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: always says, you got to get bigger problems exactly. Hey, 550 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: we run out, how we take a quick record? Be 551 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 1: right back, guys. I hope you're liking this podcast with Dusty. 552 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: What a crazy guy. So many stories I want to 553 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 1: tell you about our yee Ye Apparel summer launch June twelfth. 554 00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,399 Speaker 1: This is gonna be crazy and as we've seen from 555 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: the past with these launches, everything goes really quick. So 556 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: go to yee dot com or ye apparel dot com, 557 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 1: log in and make sure you see it. Go live 558 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: at ten am. At ten am, find your favorite things, 559 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: log out. You got it. I just don't want you 560 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,960 Speaker 1: guys to miss out. It's gonna go pretty quick. Love y'all. 561 00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: Back to Dusty. A lot of people don't know also 562 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 1: that you're you're not only have you you balance this 563 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 1: act of trying to build your brand and play drums 564 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: and and keep your personality on stage and you make 565 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: your faces to the crowd and throw up drumsticks, but 566 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: you're also controlling every song through through the drumcat, which 567 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: is a MIDI controller that then controls a laptop. So 568 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: if you've ever seen. If you've seen any rock drummer, 569 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even say country drummer because you're you don't 570 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: really qualify for that. But if you have seen any 571 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,759 Speaker 1: rock drummer, and you've seen they have to use both 572 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,880 Speaker 1: feet and both arms all the time, every song constantly. 573 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: Can so imagine seeing that, and then also imagine running 574 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,520 Speaker 1: the songs with a MIDI controller with a drumstick. So 575 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: on his right hand he hits this controller with a 576 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: drumstick that advances to the next song on the set list, 577 00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: and in our ears we could hear the count off 578 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,320 Speaker 1: and the click, and if we mess up, which happens sometimes, 579 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 1: he has to find the next chorus of the song, 580 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: he advances it forward and has to catch up to 581 00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: where we messed up. All this is happening, and nobody 582 00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 1: in the crowd knows it's happening. Yeah, just the five 583 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: of us on stage and you're back there. I mean, 584 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,000 Speaker 1: it's like the craziest multitasking that you could imagine. I've 585 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: even I've explained it to other drummers before, and half 586 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,919 Speaker 1: of them don't understand it at all, And the other 587 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: half of them that do understand it are like if 588 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,240 Speaker 1: you ever tell my boss about this. I will come 589 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: beat you because they don't want to. They don't want 590 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: to to take on the challenge. I mean it's very challenging, 591 00:37:54,320 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 1: but I mean I've my whole career, I've been playing 592 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 1: playing songs with bands with computers, and when something goes wrong, 593 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: you always have to just when something goes wrong, you 594 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: have to just stop everything, and it becomes very obvious 595 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: that something's wrong. Like I remember we played a show 596 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,759 Speaker 1: in Traverse City, Michigan, which was the last straw, and 597 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 1: I knew I had to find a way to fix this. 598 00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: But we started the first song and you came up 599 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: on stage and you went to sing, and your microphone 600 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,040 Speaker 1: batteries were dead. In the very first song of the 601 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: of the show, and you went to sing, no vocal 602 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 1: came out. And I was like, okay, well, you know, 603 00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: the computer is running the click, it's running the lights, 604 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 1: and if you don't start singing, if we don't do 605 00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:52,880 Speaker 1: everything perfect the same way, every time we are now wrong, 606 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,400 Speaker 1: the click's going to end before we do, and the 607 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: lights are going to turn off the light. So what 608 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: you have to do in that situation back in the 609 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: old days was just hit spacebar and stop the whole computer. 610 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: And when I did that that day, I hit the 611 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 1: space bar after a split second blackout and all the 612 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: lights went out, and so we finished the rest of 613 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,520 Speaker 1: the song in total darkness. And it was so awkward 614 00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:21,319 Speaker 1: and so obvious. And so when we went home from 615 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 1: that little run, I committed myself to finding a way. 616 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,040 Speaker 1: There's got to be a way to stop the computer 617 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: and start it again during a song, or there's got 618 00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: to be a way to make our mistakes. Like we 619 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,879 Speaker 1: are experienced musicians. We've played in bar bands, we played 620 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: in cover bands, we've jammed and garages. We know how 621 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: as a band to just jam through a moment and 622 00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 1: get back on track and continue the song. But a 623 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 1: computer can't do that. So I knew there had to 624 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: be a way to stop the computer and start it 625 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: during the song. You guys have any idea this was 626 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,640 Speaker 1: going on, I'm sure, And so that, yeah, that one 627 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: winter we went home. Everything's telling me, we're doing a 628 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: good podcast. We're talking a long time. This is good. 629 00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: But I figured out how to how to do it, 630 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: and then I didn't really realize that it would kind 631 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: of take over and become the way that we run 632 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,719 Speaker 1: things now, like now, if we want to do a 633 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 1: song differently, we can just do it differently because I 634 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: have so many ways to run the song in the computer. 635 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,400 Speaker 1: Since now, let me give them an example. We use 636 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,520 Speaker 1: like America for example. Yeah, so say we're at a 637 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: big festival. There's ten thousand people. I'm out on the 638 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: catwalk singing America. If I don't get to that chorus 639 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 1: or those verses at a certain time, the clip's going 640 00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,720 Speaker 1: to run out. Lights are going to change, things change 641 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,839 Speaker 1: in the song. So I'm reaching down and i'm you know, 642 00:40:54,200 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm signing some ladies, you know, hat And then I 643 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: don't get back up in time, and I missed the 644 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: top of that second verse. So you guys don't notice it, 645 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 1: but the band's gonna do. So Dusty realizes I didn't 646 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,760 Speaker 1: make the top of that verse. So Dusty then commands 647 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,200 Speaker 1: to the whole band, hold right here, hold right here, 648 00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 1: wait for me, so and then he'll count us. And 649 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,239 Speaker 1: then when I'm ready and he knows I'm back on 650 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: the catwalk and I'm ready to sing. He realizes that 651 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,200 Speaker 1: while playing all this crazy stuff on the drums. Then 652 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,080 Speaker 1: he gets back to that second verse. The top the 653 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: second verse and then counts us in right here, one, two, three, 654 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:33,360 Speaker 1: hits it and then I start singing. It's kind of 655 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,800 Speaker 1: I mean, and no one knows. We try to compare 656 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: our band to a football team a lot, and in 657 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: that situation, I don't really know who's the quarterback, if 658 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: it's me or if it's you. But it's kind of 659 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: like we were. It's like when something goes wrong, I 660 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,480 Speaker 1: have to stop and get us into a loop, and 661 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: then I just have to kind of watch and listen. 662 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'll see you going for the mic 663 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: and I'll be like, all right, verse verse two or 664 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 1: chorus two. But other times I don't really know what 665 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Sometimes you look like you're about to sing, 666 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 1: but you start talking and then I'll have to wait. 667 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200 Speaker 1: But then some you know it's but it's awesome because 668 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,919 Speaker 1: it gives us back that jam band flexibility, right, that 669 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: you lose when you start programming your lights, yeah, and 670 00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 1: programming your clicks. It's those moments to keep us excited. 671 00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: Oh and then we got the stage and we high 672 00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: five each other. We're like, dude, that was crazy. We 673 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 1: almost messed up saying that like Sayersville, New Jersey during 674 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: America where the power went out. Yeah, and America keeps 675 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,280 Speaker 1: getting brought up today. I looked back on some video 676 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,160 Speaker 1: from there, and the power was out for like twelve 677 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes. But so, like, what are we going 678 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 1: to do in that situation when the power goes out? 679 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: Are you just gonna all kind of die off stage 680 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,360 Speaker 1: and then just eventually stop and then the band stand 681 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:05,240 Speaker 1: up and leave and wait for you know, the crew 682 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: guys to fix the problem, and then all come back 683 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 1: out and be like, oh hey, sorry, now we'll start 684 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:14,920 Speaker 1: that song over again. No, what we did the power 685 00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: goes out, you still had you have no you have 686 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 1: no amps, you've got no microphones, you've got no no 687 00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:26,479 Speaker 1: pa in that situation, but you still had a sold 688 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 1: out venue full of rowdy music fans and a drum 689 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: set on stage. They can still hear the drums, and 690 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:36,400 Speaker 1: so I just kept playing and the crowd kept clapping, 691 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 1: started chanting, and over those ten to twelve minutes, you 692 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 1: if when the drummer stops, you really have a problem. 693 00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 1: I always always say that any instrument can stop on 694 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 1: stage and you it doesn't make it obvious that there's 695 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,800 Speaker 1: something wrong. But when the drummer stops. That's when you admit, okay, 696 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: we can't fix what's wrong up here, and you know, 697 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,400 Speaker 1: it becomes it becomes the crowds problem. Then that is 698 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,399 Speaker 1: and I kind of said this, and you might y'all 699 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: might not have understood. But when we talk to each 700 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:13,319 Speaker 1: other and Dusty's saying one, two, three, he actually has 701 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,000 Speaker 1: a microphone on his drum kit that talks to our ears, 702 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,560 Speaker 1: So it's like a what do they call that? And yeah, 703 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:24,319 Speaker 1: we called a talkbacker whatever they call it in broadcasting. 704 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: You know you have you have a C mike, So 705 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: we're we could listen to Dusty and then I have 706 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: one right in front of his drum kit, and then 707 00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,000 Speaker 1: Johnny are bass player has one, so there's three on 708 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: the stage. If the guitar player has a big problem, 709 00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: he could run to that Q mic, same with bass player. 710 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: And then Dusty's always talking. And sometimes it's a joke, 711 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, sometimes I'm just making a smile of a joke. 712 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: But in emergency situations, and I'm talking Lake Shake, Chicago, 713 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,680 Speaker 1: twenty five thousand people, I'm out on the catwalk, which 714 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,719 Speaker 1: could be fifty feet from you. Yeah, we have to 715 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,040 Speaker 1: talk to each other. He can't see my hand signals. 716 00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: It's not like it was in the days of the clubs, 717 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:08,080 Speaker 1: so that's our saving grace. I should probably wrap this up. 718 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: If you guys want to hear more, Dusty comment below. 719 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: I think we could probably do three or four of 720 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: these podcasts and still get interesting stories. He's one of 721 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,440 Speaker 1: the most interesting people I know and one of the 722 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,920 Speaker 1: funniest guys I know. But anyway, dude, thanks for being 723 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: on here. Let's go work on that truck. Yeah's see 724 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: you guys.