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Speaker 1: I don't know. Every day waiting up the Breakfast Club,

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Speaker 1: y'all dump yep's well, the Most Dangerous Morning showed the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club Charlamagne and the God DJ and Bey and

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Speaker 1: Jess hilarious on here.

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Speaker 2: But Layen LaRosa is and we got a special guest.

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Speaker 2: She goes by the name of congress Woman Jasmine Kracka.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm making it?

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Speaker 3: How you feeling?

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Speaker 4: It's tough. It's a tough time.

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Speaker 5: It's a tough time in this country for all people

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Speaker 5: in general, but obviously as someone who isn't afraid to

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Speaker 5: speak her mind, our country is truly falling apart, and

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Speaker 5: it is devolving into next level chaos as well as

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Speaker 5: next level of violence.

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Speaker 3: I hate to say it.

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Speaker 2: You were one of the first people that I thought

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Speaker 2: about after I saw what happened with Charlie Kirk, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't I don't want that to happen

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Speaker 2: to anybody. I don't think anybody should be killed because

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Speaker 2: of their opinion, are attacked because of their opinion, and

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Speaker 2: you know what, what what happens over there definitely will happen,

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Speaker 2: you know, on this side, and that definitely makes somebody

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Speaker 2: like you wo were talking.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there were so many people that immediately

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Speaker 5: reached out from all over and was like, what is

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Speaker 5: going on with your security? Like we need to make

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Speaker 5: sure that you're good, like are you somewhere safe? And

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Speaker 5: I had to make sure that I called my mom

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Speaker 4: It really shouldn't be that way.

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Speaker 5: And we now are engaging in conversations again about the

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Speaker 5: safety or lack thereof for elected officials that are in Congress.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I have to pay for my own security, like,

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Speaker 5: so I have to raise money to keep myself safe

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Speaker 5: because they will not pay to take care of us,

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Speaker 5: even though the other two branches of government they pay

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Speaker 5: for their protection. So, you know, hopefully we can engage

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Speaker 5: get us some real safety. But also we need to

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Speaker 5: engage in like what really does cross the line?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like, so we do have free speech in this country,

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Speaker 5: but are you free to say just any and everything?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 5: Like, I mean there are limits to all of our

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Speaker 5: like how far will you go? And so, you know,

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Speaker 5: I hate that some of my colleagues on the other

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Speaker 5: is on the Democrats, right, Like, I mean, obviously the

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Speaker 5: is like, we're denouncing political violence, but we're just assuming,

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Speaker 5: like and we just want to be clear, like there,

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Speaker 5: we're not down for political violence, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 5: that that's what it was, right, Like, we know that people,

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Speaker 5: especially me, I'm having done criminal defense, most offenses.

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Speaker 4: Like this were personal in the first place.

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Speaker 5: Now I'm not saying that this was a personal thing,

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Speaker 4: We know that in the savior it is dangerous.

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Speaker 5: It is dangerous, and even still even if it came

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Speaker 4: Okay, so let's talk about it.

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Speaker 5: Let's talk about what quote unquote radicalized him, right, Like

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Speaker 5: we've seen writings and manifestos and we've seen where it

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Speaker 5: We got to talk about, like that is next level

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Speaker 5: wanna be hitler. All those things are like not necessarily

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Speaker 5: saying go out and hurt somebody, But when you're literally

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Speaker 5: it looks like when you don't promote a culture of violence.

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Speaker 5: They call us socialists, they call us all things. But

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Speaker 5: I don't think that that actually evokes an environment of violence.

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Speaker 5: I think literally saying things about like, oh, these people

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Speaker 4: We have never seen these types of images of ice.

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Speaker 5: Right Or the idea that you had people that went

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Speaker 5: We had people that died and on day one and

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Speaker 5: And we know that since those people have been let go,

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Speaker 4: Up with child porn. We know that at least.

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Speaker 5: Ten of them ended up with new cases for doing

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Speaker 5: that I would call injustice system. But the idea is

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Speaker 4: These are just facts.

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Speaker 5: That doesn't mean that I want somebody to go out

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Speaker 5: when there was when those attempts took place in a

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Speaker 5: that is allowed and allotted to protect him. So no,

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Speaker 5: I can say that your policies are bad. I can

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Speaker 4: These are just facts.

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Speaker 5: So don't get mad that I speak the truth and

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Speaker 5: I speak fact. But I literally have never said anything

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Speaker 5: find a clip of a Democrat invoking violence. Right now,

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Speaker 5: everybody's gotten so sensitive. I woke up and a friend

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Speaker 5: fired for repeating Charlie Kirk's words, right like, they're firing

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Speaker 5: people and they're canceling people because people have gone out

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Speaker 5: I don't go and follow the right wing special people

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Speaker 4: Other things to do.

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Speaker 5: And some of my friends who had never heard of him,

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Speaker 4: We don't know who it is.

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Speaker 5: And literally I didn't know he had ever talked about me,

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Speaker 5: they're literally dying. I mean, we've had more in custody

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Speaker 4: And the thing is, what did they do wrong? Nothing?

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Speaker 5: That's what happened with them, right, And so you know,

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Speaker 5: now can we have a conversation about everybody had guns

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Speaker 5: doesn't necessarily prevent gun violence.

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Speaker 6: I was going to ask you, do you think now

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Speaker 5: No, I mean it has become to the extent that

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Speaker 5: like I mean, and we're not talking about you know,

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Speaker 5: they always want to say if if Democrats talk about

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Speaker 5: I'm like, yo, I'm licensed security and I'm licensed and

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Speaker 5: I know how to shoot, you know, obviously I never

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Speaker 2: Can we stay there for a second, because you said

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Speaker 2: a lot, but I want to stay there for a second.

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Speaker 2: Please explain to people, cause I believe in the Second

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Speaker 2: Amendment to when we talk about common sense gun reform.

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Speaker 3: What does that look like? Yes, so nobody wants to

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Speaker 5: No, nobody's trying to take your guns away. So we

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Speaker 5: can talk about the fact that they are currently seemingly

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Speaker 5: struggling a little bit as it relates to the Charlie

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Speaker 5: kirkshooting in general, right, because they're trying to figure out

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Speaker 5: who bought what, Like this is about simple things like

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Speaker 5: you can't buy it, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, unless there is a background check.

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Speaker 5: You can't buy it unless like we literally have you

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Speaker 5: document it on that weapon. And we have so many

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Speaker 4: So it's just very simple stuff like that's it.

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Speaker 5: And one of those things that I really think, you know,

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Speaker 4: But I do want.

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: And this is this is not even getting into ghost guns.

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Speaker 5: And the gun lobby is just very strong, you know.

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Speaker 5: And when are we gonna make some changes? And I

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Speaker 5: But I honestly don't think that it should take someone

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Speaker 3: The gun lobby is are the reason that Congress is

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Speaker 5: That's one of the main reasons that you know they

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Speaker 4: That is so helpful.

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Speaker 5: We have seen gun violence be reduced when you have

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Speaker 5: But right now, I think the focus is just on

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Speaker 5: What is our responsibility those of us that are in

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Speaker 5: So it's interesting because as I was waiting to come in,

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Speaker 2: In this because you're one of the most high profile, outspoken,

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Speaker 2: If somebody was looking to get some get back, that's

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Speaker 5: Right? Like, what is it that students on an HBCU

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Speaker 5: Like this that wasn't a place that let me point

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, listen, I get it. None of it

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Speaker 2: Like you know, even whoever killed Charlie Kirk, that person

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Speaker 3: There's never a reason to kill it, not just for

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Speaker 2: So I understand what y'all a say when y'all saying, yo,

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Speaker 2: And I'm not speaking that over you at all. But

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Speaker 3: Swivel, right, you just should.

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Speaker 2: And you said something about freedom of speech to I

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Speaker 5: I'm about to be out in these streets and that's that.

443
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Speaker 4: Like usually there are parameters.

444
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 3: They can't you Obama on an airplane.

445
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly the same thing, like the movie theater example

446
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 5: that they always give. So like there are limitations for

447
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 5: every single constitutional right that we have. And it's more

448
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,560
Speaker 5: so a balancing test, right, Like it's like how much

449
00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 5: harm versus what you want to do as an individual right. Granted,

450
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:02,800
Speaker 5: like we have our greatest protections that we're supposed to have,

451
00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:05,199
Speaker 5: our greatest protections when it comes to the Constitution. But

452
00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 5: right now what we're seeing is a country that is

453
00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 5: saying free speech for me, but not free speech for

454
00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 5: thee right. If you say something I don't like, that's

455
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 5: not covered under free speech, and that's not really what

456
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 5: free speech is about. That is one of the things

457
00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 5: that make us this unique democracy is that you can

458
00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 5: engage in saying some of the wildest stuff ever. But

459
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 5: like doesn't mean that you should go out and ever

460
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,639
Speaker 5: say that like oh yeah, it's yeah that person should

461
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,240
Speaker 5: die or this person. No, Like that's that's that's crossing lines.

462
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 5: And granted I know that you're most likely not gonna

463
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,360
Speaker 5: but if you start to incite. That's where we get

464
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 5: a lot of our incitement laws from, because if you

465
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 5: start to incite violence with your words, then you don't

466
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 5: get the free speech protections.

467
00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

468
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Speaker 2: I think we I think we all incite, whether we

469
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 2: think we do or not. And what I mean by

470
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 2: that is I've definitely, you know, called that regime fascist.

471
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: Right.

472
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:58,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you hear somebody call call him Hitler, what

473
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 2: he calls us racist scumbags. Yeah, if there's some white

474
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: supremacist lunatic who thinks you and me as a racist scumbag,

475
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: let me take that racist comeback out. If there's somebody

476
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: that thinks, oh, Hitler, and then they look at somebody,

477
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:12,159
Speaker 2: they look at a lot of the actions that are

478
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:14,719
Speaker 2: going on, they're like, well, let's let's prevent this before

479
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,199
Speaker 2: you know, four million people get killed. Like, so I

480
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: can understand how all of it, Yeah, incites violence?

481
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I could see it.

482
00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 5: But as far as whether or not, you know, what

483
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 5: we are supposed to look at is if you're just

484
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 5: looking at the words by themselves and you're taking the

485
00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 5: ordinary person standard is what we typically would say in

486
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,160
Speaker 5: the law. The ordinary person would not say that incites violence.

487
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,159
Speaker 5: But when you do say things like these people deserve

488
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 5: to die, that is different, right, That is different from

489
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,719
Speaker 5: literally just teaching somebody history, right, And it's it's one

490
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 5: of the things that we've seen with their snowfake snowflake

491
00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 5: you know, theology right around around history, right, it's like,

492
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 5: oh no, no, we don't want people to know that

493
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 5: slavery was bad. Well just imagine how my ancestors felt

494
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,840
Speaker 5: going through it, right, Like I mean, just like what

495
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:14,040
Speaker 5: are we talking about, right, But you should know, you

496
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 5: should know why you shouldn't make jokes and granted you've

497
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 5: got free speech or whatever, but you shouldn't be making

498
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 5: jokes about enslavement people because like literally, like there's a

499
00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,159
Speaker 5: real history that is connected to that. But like this

500
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 5: idea of like, oh, well, somebody gonna go out and

501
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 5: kill somebody like that is not your ordinary person's standard.

502
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 5: Like it needs to be where if we're looking at

503
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 5: a blank slate, just a normal person, it should be

504
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 5: the very clear things like I mean, what we saw

505
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:47,120
Speaker 5: happen on January sixth, and it was propagated by the

506
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 5: now re elected President of the United States. He incited

507
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 5: a violent mob period and he was indicted for doing

508
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,359
Speaker 5: so unfortunately he never got his day in court for

509
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 5: all of us because I thought, well, I didn't. We're

510
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 5: not always were not plenty. I just saying, and I

511
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 5: was just saying.

512
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Speaker 2: President Biden and Marrigad, I want to ask you about

513
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,919
Speaker 2: that too, right, What did you think about uh Kamala

514
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: Harris formay VP Kamala Harris her extra from her book

515
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: where she finally speaks her truth in regards to the

516
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 2: Biden administration and how they wouldn't come to her defense,

517
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 2: how they helped the spread negative narratives about her.

518
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Speaker 3: What did you think of that?

519
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 5: I so, so that day I was at work, so

520
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 5: I haven't read through it. And that was the Charlie

521
00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,639
Speaker 5: Kirk day as well, so I was stuck for until

522
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:40,720
Speaker 5: like nine pm at the Capitol. I will say this

523
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 5: as a national co chair on that campaign, when I

524
00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 5: had an opportunity to talk to the Vice President as

525
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 5: frankly and honestly as I typically speak, maybe with even

526
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 5: more franklin on some of my cuss words, that is

527
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 5: how I would talk to the VP. And there were

528
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,479
Speaker 5: a lot of people that did not understand why and

529
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 5: how the VP ever picked me.

530
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: As a national culture it.

531
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 5: Is not every day that you have a black woman

532
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,639
Speaker 5: freshman that ends up becoming a national culture on what

533
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: truly was a historic campaign, no matter what the results

534
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 5: ultimately were. And one of the reasons is because she

535
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:30,480
Speaker 5: never had to worry about me backtapping her, like being

536
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 5: ten toes down, like telling her and I wasn't one

537
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 5: of those surrogates. It's like, oh, send me and have

538
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 5: me do a rally. No, no, no, no, I'm trying to

539
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 5: get in the streets. I'm trying to talk to the

540
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: real people. And then I would try to report back

541
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 5: to her and let her know, like, Yo, this is

542
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 5: what I'm feeling in the streets, that kind of stuff,

543
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 5: because I never wanted anything other than her to win,

544
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 5: because I was a win for the American people. And

545
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 5: I think that people took for ran it how perceptive

546
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,920
Speaker 5: she was of who it was that literally her riders were.

547
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 5: It is one of the reasons that we saw Secretary

548
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 5: Fudge being elevated as one of her national CoA chairs.

549
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 5: Another person that when the history books are written, there

550
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 5: will be so many black women electeds that will talk

551
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 5: about kind of all that Secretary Fudge has been to

552
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 5: so many of us behind the scenes so I will

553
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 5: say that I am not surprised, because you know, there

554
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 5: were a lot of things that were going on. Number One,

555
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 5: we had those that were trying to push Biden out,

556
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 5: but they weren't just trying to push Biden out. They

557
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 5: were trying to push her out. They didn't want her

558
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 5: to become the nominee. They had their pick in mind,

559
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 5: and it wasn't either one of them. And you know,

560
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 5: I remember tweeting when it was actually decent to do.

561
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 5: I remember tweeting out and saying that I would only

562
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 5: go and bust my ass for one candidate, and that

563
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 5: would be the vice president. If they came up with

564
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 5: anybody else, God bless them good luck, But I'm not

565
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 5: about to run myself ragged when y'all decided to kind

566
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: of do this. So there's so many layers to what

567
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 5: it is to be an elected office, and it is

568
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 5: always tough to build a team of trust. It is

569
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 5: what matters most. You can teach somebody the skills, but

570
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 5: you can't teach anybody to literally have your back. And

571
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 5: politics is such an ugly game that it is so important,

572
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 5: and so the bigger your team gets, the more difficult

573
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,280
Speaker 5: it is. Now do I believe that the president himself

574
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,879
Speaker 5: did anything against the vice president. I don't everything that

575
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 5: I know about Joe Biden as well as the VP,

576
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 5: she never backstabbed him to.

577
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: Be like, oh, this is my chance, let me try

578
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: to get it. Nothing like that.

579
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 5: And you can't have a vice president there's always gunning

580
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 5: for your job. You have to have a vice president

581
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 5: that is like riding out and gonna do the things.

582
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 5: And so I think between the two of them, while

583
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 5: I've not read her book at this point in time,

584
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 5: I feel absolutely confident that she never backstabbed him. He

585
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 5: never backstabbed her. But when it comes to staff, life

586
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:17,959
Speaker 5: gets real. Yeah, life gets real tricky.

587
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 6: She said in the episode that the Lantic Drop that

588
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 6: she found out that the staff was like adding to

589
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 6: like the moment, so like, for instance, she would like

590
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 6: work on something super important for the country, but instead

591
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 6: they would lean into remembror when they said that she

592
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 6: tried to fake the French accent and that was like

593
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 6: a whole thing. She said that she felt like they

594
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 6: would amplify moments like that so people didn't understand how

595
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 6: she was really in the rooms, really fighting for different things.

596
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 6: And basically it would like turn people away from her

597
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 6: resume or you just wouldn't know how important she was

598
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: to her position.

599
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I will say that.

600
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 5: So there's a group of black women in Congress, we're

601
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 5: a little younger. We have a signal chat and we

602
00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 5: have that safe space. Not only our chat, but we

603
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 5: get together, we do dinners, that kind of stuff, because

604
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 5: it is you know, people see us and they see

605
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 5: us being challenged from the outside.

606
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: They see the right challenging us and that kind of stuff.

607
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 5: But people don't understand how much people within our own

608
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 5: orbit try to undermine us, including staff, right, Like they

609
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 5: forget that your name is on the door, Like there

610
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 5: is a culture in DC even when we look at

611
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 5: the house and that kind of stuff, Like you have

612
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 5: people that have been there forever. Like when I came in,

613
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 5: people were like, how you gonna bring this person? I

614
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 5: was like, cause my name is on the door. I

615
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 5: brought people that I knew had my back. I brought

616
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: kids that had interned with me, and they were like,

617
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 5: they have no healed experience. I was like, yeah, that's fine,

618
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 5: they're smart. And literally, I mean my kids get tapped

619
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 5: all the time. Literally one of them took a really big,

620
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 5: good job and I was. So he was sad, he

621
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: was crying when he left me, but I was like,

622
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 5: this is a great opportunity. And so and I still

623
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: have a number I mean kids that graduated college at

624
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 5: twenty that I I had as interns when I was

625
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 5: in the state House that are now still with me

626
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 5: on the hill. And that is because I didn't need

627
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 5: people coming in thinking that just because they heal people,

628
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 5: they gonna run me.

629
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 4: But that is how the hell is run where you have.

630
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 5: These staffers, especially when it comes to black women, where

631
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 5: they try to undermine us at every turn.

632
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 4: And you can even be.

633
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 5: The vice president of the United States and running to

634
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 5: staff that, for whatever reason, believe that they have the

635
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 5: right to undermine you, and they will and they play

636
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: you because you're in a political position. So there's only

637
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,840
Speaker 5: so much that you can do because it's not like

638
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 5: running your own shop or whatever that ain't got nothing

639
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,719
Speaker 5: to do with politics, where it's just about profit, Like

640
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 5: your profit is people and the people's perception of you.

641
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 5: And if the people closest to you are saying things

642
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 5: that are contradictory to who you are, like it's a

643
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 5: whole game.

644
00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 4: And so it's very.

645
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 5: Difficult and truly. I remember the same group of women

646
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 5: that I'm talking about. The Vice president would bring us

647
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 5: over to her home, so the Vice President's residence, and

648
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 5: we would sit down and we would have dinner, and

649
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 5: it would be those moments that we could talk about,

650
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 5: like what some of our challenges are beyond just the

651
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 5: normal that goes into the job.

652
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 4: It is.

653
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 5: It is what black women face kind of in general,

654
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 5: in any space that they walk into.

655
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 4: There was never built to accept them. I'm right, yeah,

656
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: we did.

657
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 6: So to your point, because when I read the EPSURD,

658
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 6: I understood one hundred percent. Even before she came out

659
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 6: and said all these things, I could look at her

660
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 6: and see because I've been in the shoes of what's happening.

661
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Speaker 6: I've haven't been Vice president, but I've been a black

662
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 6: woman in the space.

663
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Speaker 7: Right. But why did she not say something before?

664
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 6: Now?

665
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 7: We were all there with her, like we would have rolled.

666
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 3: We actually weren't.

667
00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 7: We were. We were to a certain extent.

668
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Speaker 3: I think I rocked with the VP. A lot of

669
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: people were not.

670
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 7: Well, how maybe because of my family house.

671
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: A lot of revision is history when it come to

672
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Speaker 3: the VP.

673
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: I was out there campaigning with her back in twenty

674
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 2: twenty guys and they gave their hand to me my ass.

675
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 6: But you don't feel like when when we did the

676
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 6: whole Biden put her on the ticket thing, there was

677
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:18,560
Speaker 6: a shift.

678
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 5: In support for her, not necessarily amongst black people, not

679
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 5: necessarily amongst black people. So I'll be honest and I

680
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 5: think that number one. You know, again, I was a

681
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 5: fierce defender of hers before she was.

682
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 4: Ever the nominee or whatever. But I can remember where

683
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 4: people are like, where is she? What she doing?

684
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 5: She ain't doing nothing right because when people went out

685
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,760
Speaker 5: and voted, there were so many people that were voting

686
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 5: for her. Like they voted. They're like, oh, Joe's there,

687
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 5: but we like, we out, we voted forget it, did

688
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 5: shit so well. But I think that that was when

689
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: they ran as a ticket. I do think that she

690
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 5: had a lot more black support when Joe Biden was

691
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 5: running as president and she was running as vice president.

692
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 5: But again, they decided that she would have to meet

693
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: a higher standard than the average vice president. That's what

694
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 5: they decided because people are like, well, I voted for you,

695
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 5: so they're like, where is she right? Not understanding the

696
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 5: role of the vice president because it ain't nobody how

697
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,239
Speaker 5: many people went out there and it was like, I'm

698
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 5: voting for jd Vance. No, they wasn't saying I'm voting

699
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 5: for jd Vance. They were voting for Trump. Jd Vance

700
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 5: just kind of happened to be there, right, And that's

701
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 5: typically how we do our tickets is you usually have

702
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 5: the star up here and then you never want anybody

703
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: who's gonna outshine you. But literally, I think that they

704
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 5: approached it more so as a partnership because when Joe

705
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 5: Biden served as vice president to Obama, it was more

706
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 5: like a partnership, and I think people just wanted to

707
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: see her more because I would hear it and I'm like, well,

708
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 5: tell me what Dick Schiney was doing.

709
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 4: Like tell me and I'd be like, name five of

710
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 4: the vice presidents.

711
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 5: Right, And if you couldn't, then I'm like, y'all, y'all

712
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: are putting more on her than the role actually allows

713
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: for now. I do think that we also have to

714
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: be cognizant of that when we walk into spaces that

715
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 5: typically we're not in, we do have to do more.

716
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate, it's not right, but we do. And so,

717
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,399
Speaker 5: like it was only within that one hundred and seven

718
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 5: days that people could start to see, no, this is

719
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 5: who she is. And I think a few more days

720
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 5: and we would have been fine. But one hundred and

721
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 5: seven day a little over three months to run any

722
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 5: campaign is wild, let alone to run a presidential And

723
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 5: it also she also was forced into an infrastructure that

724
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 5: was built for Joe Biden and she ain't Joe Biden, right,

725
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 5: but like, you can't build your own presidential infrastructure in

726
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 5: that short amount of time, so you tried to like

727
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 5: plug and play somebody that like that's not who she was.

728
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 4: And you would.

729
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 5: See as time was going on, she was really hitting

730
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,359
Speaker 5: her own stride, right, that fit her versus her kind

731
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 5: of being forced into this space. But I don't think

732
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 5: that coming out and saying well staff did this or that,

733
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 5: then they would have looked at her and they would

734
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 5: have said she was weak.

735
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 4: They would have said, oh.

736
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,279
Speaker 5: She's complaining, she's given excuses. Those are the things they

737
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 5: would have done a lot of times. It's a lot

738
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 5: of stuff that goes on with us, but like us

739
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 5: saying something is not gonna get us anywhere, Like we

740
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: literally just got to be like whatever, because we always

741
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:23,239
Speaker 5: have more obstacles no matter who we are no matter

742
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 5: what we're doing, we're always gonna have more obstacles. And

743
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 5: ain't nobody trying to hear that you couldn't get it

744
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 5: done because of the obstacles, like they just look at

745
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,879
Speaker 5: you and and to me, it would have played into

746
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 5: this persona of the Democrats is that we're weak. And

747
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 5: so I think like doing a tell all and you know,

748
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 5: dissecting what happened for the people, giving people like the

749
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 5: inside of you afterwards is fine. But I think in

750
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 5: that moment when you're looking for the commander in chief

751
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 5: of the biggest, best, strongest nation in the world, complaining

752
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 5: about staff is not going to steal that type of confidence.

753
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think she should have complained about staff.

754
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: And you're right about everything you're saying in regards to

755
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 2: the VP. But times changed and they changed a lot.

756
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: So for somebody like the Vice president, I would have

757
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: liked to see and I told her she should do this.

758
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 2: I would have liked to seeing her out the way

759
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: you see JD. Vance out, Meaning you see JD. Vance

760
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 2: on these Sunday morning news shows all the time. You

761
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: see Jdvans popping up on these podcasts. Everybody knew Joe

762
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Biden wasn't going to be a popular president. All his

763
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,439
Speaker 2: polling numbers always showed it. So being at your number

764
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 2: two on the ticket, I know they don't want you to,

765
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 2: but you should be thinking about your future. And I

766
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: think that if she would have did that early on,

767
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:38,960
Speaker 2: like just calling Breakfast Club every now and then popping

768
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: up on D. L. Hugley show, showing up on these

769
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 2: Sunday morning those shows, so when they know you, God forbid,

770
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: it is something that would have happened to Biden did

771
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: he ended up having to step down. They would have

772
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 2: known you already, so you would have had to try

773
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: to get people to get to know you.

774
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 4: One hundred yes, No, stay ready, so you ain't got

775
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 4: to get ready. I agree.

776
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,359
Speaker 2: And you do a phenomenal job of just being out there,

777
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 2: not because you're seeking to be out there. You just

778
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 2: got that type of magnetic personality and when you pop

779
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: up on camera, you pop.

780
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 6: But you're honest and you're straight to it. And I

781
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 6: think that was the thing, like we I know, my

782
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 6: I'm gonna stop saying we. I was waiting for Kamala

783
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 6: to be just here's like we're seeing things.

784
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 7: What's up?

785
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,959
Speaker 6: Like what you're like our person, and that didn't happen,

786
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 6: like even your Twitter account, Like when things happen, I

787
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 6: go to your Twitter because you talk about it so

788
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 6: regular and you're straight to it. I felt like we

789
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 6: didn't have that, Like now she's using the words like

790
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 6: reckless or you know, ambition and ego were Biden's issue

791
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,280
Speaker 6: and things like that. But we all could have had.

792
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:33,879
Speaker 4: That conversation, y'all.

793
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 5: Don't y'all don't know how these how these handlers are

794
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 5: like like you, you would not you could not imagine

795
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 5: the amount of pushback I do, like internally, like I

796
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 5: would have staff. Again, this goes down to staff and

797
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 5: handlers and consultants, right, So I would have staff, especially

798
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 5: when I started, Like cause my tweets, if it's Jasmine

799
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:58,239
Speaker 5: for us, it's me.

800
00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 4: It ain't nobody else.

801
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 5: It's staff on my other accounts, right, but it is

802
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 5: me when it's Jasmine for us. So when I first

803
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 5: started doing stuff, I had stuff, They're like, oh, you

804
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 5: can't do that. I said, I'm sorry, why can't I?

805
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 5: I can do whatever I want to do, right, like,

806
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 5: and so I pushed back. I remember even other colleagues

807
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 5: after Marjorie and I had our situation.

808
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 4: They were like, well, we don't we don't know if

809
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 4: you should have did that. That's cool.

810
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 5: Like ultimately, like if the people decide that they don't

811
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: want to re elect me because I decide that I'm

812
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 5: gonna show up and be myself and I'm gonna be

813
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 5: in defense of myself, which I don't know why you

814
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: could be convinced that I would fight for you somebody

815
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 5: that maybe I've never met, because I've not met every

816
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,320
Speaker 5: single one of my voters, when I won't even defend myself.

817
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 4: Now, if y'all decide.

818
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 5: That that's not the representation that you want, that is

819
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 5: perfectly fine with me because my life is a lot

820
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 5: simpler when I'm not in politics.

821
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 4: Like that is okay, Like I am, I am okay

822
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 4: with it.

823
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: But what happens is people say, well, the only way

824
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 5: you're gonna get here is if you do this, or

825
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 5: that I can tell you that there is no consult

826
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 5: that ever would have approached me or said that I

827
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 5: should be who I am and thought that I would

828
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 5: become one of the top fundraising members of the House period,

829
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 5: Like they would never have said be who I am.

830
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 5: And so again this goes into the fact that she

831
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 5: plugged into an apparatus that was not built for her. Right,

832
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,640
Speaker 5: You're talking about Joe Biden, who had been an elected

833
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 5: official since he was in his twenties. You're talking about

834
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 5: an older white man. You're talking about something completely different

835
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 5: in the standards that are going to be set versus

836
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: a black woman and a woman just in general. So

837
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: having that apparatus of what Joe Biden can do or

838
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 5: should do, it is not the same as Kamala and

839
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,720
Speaker 5: what she should do because she's gonna have to connect

840
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 5: on another way, right, Like they are going to Black

841
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 5: people specifically, are going to expect different of you. It's

842
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 5: not right, Right, they're both running for president. But if

843
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 5: you've got, you know, a white man running for president,

844
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,279
Speaker 5: there's going to be like, well, I don't expect him

845
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 5: to really understand and all of our black issues are

846
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 5: necessarily talk about reparations, right, Like that's what they're gonna

847
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 5: do now. They running for the same dagon position, Right,

848
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 5: But when it comes to a black person or a woman,

849
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 5: then they are going to expect you to lean in

850
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 5: on some of those things. And so you've got to

851
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 5: have an apparatus or even understanding the media, right, understanding

852
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 5: what media should be done, Like, ain't nobody expecting Joe

853
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 5: Biden to show up on the Breakfast Club? Like they're

854
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 5: not right, But if you're going to be a black

855
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 5: candidate that I'm looking at and I'm saying, yes, she

856
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 5: for real, she one of us, then she's gonna.

857
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 4: Have to show up on the Breakfast Club.

858
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 3: Like.

859
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 5: It's it's those little things about again, that system that

860
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 5: is set up, and it's like this ain't for you, right,

861
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 5: like because again you talk about he's going on the

862
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 5: Sunday morning shows and this now he doing a random

863
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 5: podcast or whatever, like the Spaces, and you started to

864
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 5: see her doing more of it towards the end. You know,

865
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 5: you saw her on the different podcast and that kind

866
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 5: of stuff. But that was when she started to say, Yo,

867
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 5: this ain't working, like I gotta flip it this way, right,

868
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,959
Speaker 5: They did say that at some point in my mind

869
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 5: she did okay lesson, but I do feel like she

870
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 5: was going through what we typically go through behind the scenes,

871
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 5: where we're pushing back, and it was one of those

872
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 5: reasons that I always wanted to get to her because

873
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 5: I don't want to come to you afterwards and be like,

874
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 5: well you should have did this, and you should have

875
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 5: did that, like you put me on the team to

876
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: talk to me about what I'm getting from the streets

877
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 5: now so that.

878
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 4: We can win.

879
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 5: Like I literally wanted her to win because I did

880
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 5: believe that Project twenty twenty five was real. I did

881
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 5: believe that this was going to cause so much more harm,

882
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 5: specifically to black people than anybody else. I did believe

883
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 5: that this guy was going to be bad for our economy.

884
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 5: I truly believe this. This wasn't me drinking some kool aid.

885
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: This was me reading. This was me listening as he

886
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 5: was talking about the tariffs. This was me understanding how

887
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 5: terrible his tariffs were before for us. This is me

888
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 5: understanding trade. This is me understanding foreign relations. I knew

889
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: that this guy was gonna be a disaster, so I

890
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: needed her to win, not just for me, but for

891
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 5: the people that I represent and frankly, for a lot

892
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,480
Speaker 5: of people that voted for this guy to come in

893
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 5: and hurt them. I was fighting for them too.

894
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 2: This is why I'm I'm actually glad about what she

895
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: wrote in her book. And it's not even about her

896
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: or her political future. It's about the future of the

897
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 2: Democratic Party. Because at some point, whoever the future of

898
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 2: the party is, even even the now at the party,

899
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: they have to tell the truth about the party. And

900
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: you gotta be willing to throw that old regime under

901
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 2: the bus. You gotta be able to say President Biden

902
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 2: shouldn't have, you know, ran for a second term. You

903
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: gotta be able to say, you know, if you felt

904
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:42,520
Speaker 2: like Donald Trump was a real threat to democracy, like

905
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: the things you just laid out, you got to be

906
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 2: able to say, Marriy Garland drop the ball.

907
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 3: You gotta be able to say, how Keen Jeffreys and

908
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 3: Chuck Schumer gotta go. You gotta call a thing a thing.

909
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:57,000
Speaker 5: I'm just saying I said I got fired.

910
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: But you can't only call a thing a thing when

911
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: it's a Republican.

912
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 4: I think, no, no, no, I don't disagree with you.

913
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 5: I think that you will not catch me on a

914
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 5: hot mic saying some of those things that you're talking about,

915
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 5: because it's kind of like anything else. It's like, you know,

916
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 5: we're black, right, so you think about the fights that

917
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 5: you have within your family. It's like in the streets,

918
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 5: we won, but like when we go in the house,

919
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,479
Speaker 5: we don't have to hash some things out and that's

920
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 5: what I think we have not done a good job of.

921
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 5: Even when they decided to come after Joe Biden, it

922
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 5: was a very.

923
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 4: Public out of the house thing.

924
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 5: No, we needed to have some conversations as family, and

925
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 5: that's what Democrats are bad at, Like we don't have

926
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 5: the family conversations. Are there people that maybe should not

927
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,360
Speaker 5: be seeking re election right now in the House?

928
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 4: Probably?

929
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 5: Right, you ain't gonna catch no names from me, Okay, probably,

930
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:56,959
Speaker 5: But I don't think that it does us any good

931
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 5: to go out and then sow division because as the

932
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 5: Republicans love to come in and they will exploit those divisions, right,

933
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 5: and then all that does is make the party feel like, well, y'all,

934
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 5: I got your shit together?

935
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 4: Right.

936
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 5: So I do think that we need to have these conversations,

937
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 5: and we really do need to have them behind closed doors,

938
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 5: and we really need to say either we can continue

939
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,720
Speaker 5: to go the way that we're going, where yes, people

940
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 5: are upset with the Republicans, but they ain't happy with

941
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,799
Speaker 5: us either, or we can say we've got to figure

942
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 5: out how we're going to fix this and what is working?

943
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 5: What do people respond to?

944
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 6: Right?

945
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 5: Like we know that there's the drama about the New

946
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 5: York mayoral and all that that is going on. Right,

947
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 5: we know that there are certain figures that the old

948
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: Guard is not necessarily the most comfortable with.

949
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 2: Right, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumer, Governor Cavi Hokl do not want.

950
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: To endorse governor I mean mayor candidate Mundani?

951
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 4: Yes, okay?

952
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 5: Why And I'm you know, I don't live in I'm

953
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:06,080
Speaker 5: a mine, my good texs is business. But but I'll

954
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 5: say though that like there really needs to be a

955
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 5: conversation even if there's not, like it's like a matter

956
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,720
Speaker 5: of like, have the conversation taken place behind closed doors

957
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:20,879
Speaker 5: about the concerns about the questions about the fears. Do

958
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 5: I believe that any of these persons that you just

959
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 5: named believe that Mandamie is actually a bad candidate.

960
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 4: I don't.

961
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 5: I don't think in my heart of hearts if they

962
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 5: actually believe that he is a bad candidate.

963
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:36,479
Speaker 4: I really don't.

964
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: One of their main lobbyists hasn't stamped them yet, and

965
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,279
Speaker 2: that's Apax. So you know, until Apak says, you know what,

966
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,920
Speaker 2: he's good with us.

967
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: I don't know.

968
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that that is or isn't I will

969
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,439
Speaker 5: say though, that another thing that Republicans do is they

970
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 5: love to find someone that they feel like is very polarizing,

971
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: and then they bring that person onto other candidates. And so,

972
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 5: for instance, for a long time, they were doing all

973
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,280
Speaker 5: these mailers and all these ads with Nancy Pelosi because

974
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 5: they had driven down Pelosi's like favorabilities amongst kind of

975
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 5: independence and some other folk, right, And so then they

976
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 5: would put it don't matter what the race is, they

977
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 5: just gonna be another Nancy Pelosi, Like that's what they

978
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 5: would do, right, And I do know that, you know,

979
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,440
Speaker 5: those types of things kind of seep in.

980
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,320
Speaker 4: They used to do it with AOC all the time.

981
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 5: I think that AOC's favorabilities have obviously shifted because they

982
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 5: are not using AOC anymore, right, they have yet to

983
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 5: use me. But we know that Fox News spends a

984
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,319
Speaker 5: lot of time trying to drive down my favorabilities by

985
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 5: running like junk stories and that kind of stuff. Because

986
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 5: literally Republicans will walk up to me, introduce themselves, tell

987
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 5: me how much they love me, and make sure that

988
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,880
Speaker 5: they know or that they tell me that they're a Republican.

989
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 5: And so I think that there is something to be

990
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 5: said for when people are like, how did the United

991
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 5: States vote for Obama and vote for Trump? Like it's like,

992
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: what is happening?

993
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 4: Right?

994
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 5: But I think what people fail to realize is that

995
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,280
Speaker 5: both of them have the ability to bring in people

996
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: that normally don't participate in politics, and that is how.

997
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 4: You find a winner.

998
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:17,040
Speaker 5: A winner is somebody that can bring in people that

999
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 5: normally don't participate in politics. So what is it that

1000
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 5: attracts somebody that normally doesn't participate in politics. Usually it's

1001
00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 5: them believing that they're authentic, even if it's a common right,

1002
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 5: it's like, you know what I relate to that person,

1003
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: That person is speaking to me, that person is doing

1004
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 5: something that other politicians don't do. They don't sound like

1005
00:47:35,800 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 5: a broken record. And so I think ultimately what we

1006
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 5: will see is if we have like a generic run

1007
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: of the mill Republican, which I would say jd Vance

1008
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 5: is pretty much that. If that, but then we have

1009
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 5: an exciting candidate that is running on the Democrat. Actually,

1010
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 5: I think the country is going to be so torn

1011
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 5: up that the Democrats are gonna win, because that's historically

1012
00:47:58,239 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 5: what happens. If the Republicans tear it up enough, then

1013
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 5: no matter who on the other side, we win, Like,

1014
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:05,439
Speaker 5: no matter who it is, we just went.

1015
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: At least in my lifetime, I've never seen the party,

1016
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: the Democratic Party and this much this.

1017
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 4: Sirato, I agree, I agree.

1018
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 5: I think I think part of it is though that

1019
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 5: like people are saying that the Democrats have failed to

1020
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 5: figure out how to fight back. That's that's like we've

1021
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 5: never had this type of dysfunction on the Republican side, right,

1022
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 5: Like we've never had it to where the Supreme Court

1023
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,239
Speaker 5: isn't reigning in you know, people's powers. We've not never

1024
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 5: had it where Republicans, you know, I mean when we

1025
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 5: think back to Watergate, which you know, truly Nixon looks

1026
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 5: like a choir boy compared to Trump, right in a

1027
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 5: bipartisan way. They voted to impeach him and he just

1028
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 5: decided to resign. He's like, I ain't even gonna go

1029
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 5: through this, right, we don't have that type of gumption,

1030
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,839
Speaker 5: and so, you know, I don't think our founders contemplated this,

1031
00:48:56,440 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 5: and truly the Democrats are still struggling to find their

1032
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 5: ability to fight back. I think one of the reasons

1033
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 5: that Gavin Newsom has, you know, truly attracted a lot

1034
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 5: of attention in this moment is because he's saying, I'm

1035
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 5: going to fight back, and he is showing them how

1036
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 5: ridiculous Trump is by doing tweets that are just like Trump,

1037
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,279
Speaker 5: and Fox News got a lot of they're, oh, those

1038
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 5: are immature. All those these are Trump tweets. Like all

1039
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,399
Speaker 5: he's doing is raising a mirror to you. So I

1040
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 5: think if if we get on one page on what

1041
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,200
Speaker 5: fighting back looks like, then I think that people will

1042
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 5: feel the confidence that they need to fill in this moment.

1043
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 5: But it's hard to say that, you know, this is

1044
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 5: a dictatorship, even though we're looking at him sending troops

1045
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 5: to go in and attack Americans, like even though we're

1046
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 5: seeing that they are unleashing this rogue, this rogue policing

1047
00:49:56,680 --> 00:50:01,000
Speaker 5: force that you know, if they talk black head, they

1048
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 5: would know about slave patrols.

1049
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 4: Because when I look at what they are doing with ice,

1050
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,000
Speaker 4: it looks like slave patrols.

1051
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 5: And then you've got a Supreme Court that's like, yeah,

1052
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 5: you can pick them up because of how they look,

1053
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 5: at how they sound, that sounds like a slave patrol.

1054
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 4: Like that is what policing was born of.

1055
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,279
Speaker 5: So yes, we need to teach history and yes, we

1056
00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 5: also need to talk about like why it is important

1057
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,359
Speaker 5: for everybody to know the history, because maybe we would

1058
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: have had more Latinos that would have voted for the

1059
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 5: black woman or voted with the black folk if they

1060
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 5: fully understood this history, because frankly, they are the targets

1061
00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 5: and the victims of this, and so many of them

1062
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:43,120
Speaker 5: voted for it.

1063
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 3: You got a couple questions. I know you got to go.

1064
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:47,880
Speaker 3: Are you losing your seat because of the redistrict in Texas?

1065
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 2: No?

1066
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 5: Okay, no, I mean they moved me out of my district.

1067
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:55,520
Speaker 5: On the federal level, you can run anywhere in the state.

1068
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 5: So we'll do some polling and figure out if I

1069
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 5: run in my district Texas thirty even though I don't

1070
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 5: live there and will not be moving to the district,

1071
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,560
Speaker 5: or if I run in Texas thirty three, which is

1072
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,920
Speaker 5: where they put me, which is also a Democratic district.

1073
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 3: Epstein files.

1074
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: You know that there's absolutely people on the left that

1075
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 2: will be in the Epstein files. Are you willing to

1076
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: throw them under the bus, even if their last name

1077
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:20,760
Speaker 2: is Clinton?

1078
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 4: I am willing to throw anyone under the bus. Absolutely.

1079
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,600
Speaker 5: I mean, we know that every single Democrat has signed

1080
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 5: off on the discharge petition. Only four Republicans have signed

1081
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 5: off on the discharge petition. We need one more Republican

1082
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,720
Speaker 5: and we can bring this to the floor for a vote. Obviously,

1083
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 5: I serve on the Oversight Committee, and people aren't talking

1084
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 5: about the fact that the only reason we've gotten any

1085
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 5: Epstein files is because the only subcommittee in the Congress

1086
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: that is all black, which is this Oversight subcommittee on

1087
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 5: Law Enforcement, is led by Summer lead. They were the

1088
00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 5: ones that led the charge. So as MAGA complains about

1089
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 5: DEI and whatever, but they gotta say an all black

1090
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:06,280
Speaker 5: subcommittee is the reason that we ended up getting anything,

1091
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 5: because it was Summer's subcommittee that decided to move to

1092
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Speaker 5: subpoena and it only took a couple of Republicans jumping

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Speaker 5: on board, and they did, and that then forced Comer's

1094
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Speaker 5: hand because they had voted to do this. So I

1095
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,359
Speaker 5: just want to give credit where credit is due, because

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00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 5: I'm sure that's one of them things the history will

1097
00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: forget at the end of the day. I don't sign

1098
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 5: up or agree on anybody engaging in child sex exploitation.

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Speaker 5: I don't care who you are, I don't care. I

1100
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 5: mean and I will denounce the behaviors of anyone, and

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00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 5: so that's why I'm good.

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Speaker 4: Like whoever it is, it is what it.

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00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,799
Speaker 3: Is, all gotta go. Yeah, are you a no show

1104
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: diva boss?

1105
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Speaker 2: Like The New York Post reported, They said that you

1106
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 2: had staffords who said you were rude and rarely president

1107
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Speaker 2: in office.

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Speaker 6: They tried to at the Kamma Lak too. She said

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00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 6: that in her excerpt too, they tried. I feel for

1110
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Speaker 6: y'all man, they try to work with.

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Speaker 3: Even though we see you on the hell all the time,

1112
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you show up the I.

1113
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 4: That part they claim I don't be at work.

1114
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,719
Speaker 5: There's probably more video footage of me working than a

1115
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 5: lot of members that have been there for a very

1116
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 5: long time. We upload everything on YouTube. We've got our

1117
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 5: clips on TikTok ig, phaseo, everywhere. In addition to we

1118
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 5: send out a weekly email to our constituents that has

1119
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 5: photos and lays out what we filed. It shows photos

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00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 5: of my meetings. Listen, people can say what they want

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00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 5: to say. And again, there is this culture of undermining

1122
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 5: black women, and there is this culture of you not

1123
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 5: gonna do what you want to do here, You're gonna

1124
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: do what we tell you to do. I will tell

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00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 5: you that I'm always be me and there are staffers

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00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:50,160
Speaker 5: that you know, mostly they're not in my office take

1127
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 5: offense to how I show up every day and the

1128
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,040
Speaker 5: fact that I'm not going to conform to being just

1129
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 5: a tool of Hill staffers, and it is what it is.

1130
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,760
Speaker 5: So until somebody want to put their name on something

1131
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: to potentially be sued, I really ain't got yeah, because

1132
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 5: you know, you can't defame somebody without facing consequences of

1133
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,880
Speaker 5: potentially going to court. And truth will always be the defense.

1134
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,120
Speaker 5: So if somebody wants to come forward and say what

1135
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 5: they got to say and speak they truth, I look

1136
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 5: forward to it. Until then, I don't really respond to

1137
00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:29,800
Speaker 5: the New York Post that also is attempting to do

1138
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:31,880
Speaker 5: what we do with black women in power, which is

1139
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: to basically say we ain't nothing but loud nothing as

1140
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 5: women or people, and it's just not true.

1141
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: My last question, do you ever get tired of being

1142
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 2: loyal to people who aren't loyal to you? Because Jasmine,

1143
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 2: I've seen them do the exact same thing to you

1144
00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: that they do the common low, especially when you lost

1145
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 2: your bid to be the top them on the oversight panel.

1146
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: I've said it a million times on the radio everywhere

1147
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 2: I go. There is nobody who should be front and

1148
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,359
Speaker 2: center more in the Democratic Party than you right now,

1149
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: just because you bring the eyeballs. You know how to message,

1150
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 2: whether people like it, whether people don't like it, you

1151
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 2: know how to message.

1152
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

1153
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,800
Speaker 5: So I truly believe that everything happens for a reason,

1154
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 5: even the bad things, or even the things that I

1155
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 5: believe made best sense me running for oversight was always

1156
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 5: about trying to do best by my party, by the caucus,

1157
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: and trying to hopefully get us into a better space

1158
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 5: with the people that we serve. But at the end

1159
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 5: of the day, if people don't want my service, they

1160
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 5: don't want my service. But if I said that I

1161
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 5: was not disappointed with how much I had given to

1162
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 5: a caucus that then felt like they reduced me to

1163
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:53,720
Speaker 5: not being worth it, like very much. It was eye opening,

1164
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 5: and so for me, I look at it like God

1165
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,640
Speaker 5: was trying to reveal to me and let me know, yo,

1166
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 5: like you cutting for some people that ain't checking for

1167
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 5: you right like, you need to recenter and rebalance yourself.

1168
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 5: And so I did decide specifically after that that I

1169
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 5: was going to focus more on working with the Black

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Speaker 5: faith community and making sure that they have the information

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00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,200
Speaker 5: that they need, making sure that they're organizing in the

1172
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Speaker 5: way that they need to organize, and really availing myself

1173
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 5: with them and making sure that I could support them

1174
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Speaker 5: with some resources because.

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Speaker 3: You're very humble.

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Speaker 2: You raise over four million dollars for the caucus. You

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Speaker 2: did over one hundred and ten trips, you gave out

1178
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 2: almost six hundred thousand. You was the seventh highest fundraiser

1179
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 2: in the whole caucus for quarter one.

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00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 4: This year, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I mean it

1181
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 4: was in Q two I moved up. I was even higher.

1182
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Speaker 3: So they cool with you.

1183
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: Laboring, you know, in the field, but they don't want

1184
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 2: you leading from at the table.

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00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 4: That is what it felt like.

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Speaker 5: So you know, I mean, listen, sometimes you have to

1187
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 5: be put into an uncomfortable position in order to move you.

1188
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 5: And so for me, it was about kind of recentering

1189
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 5: and talking to God and saying, Okay, it's clear that

1190
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 5: like this isn't what you want me to do, so

1191
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,680
Speaker 5: like where is it you want me to go? So

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00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 5: you know, we will see, like you just asked me

1193
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,840
Speaker 5: about you know, you know, which seat I'm running in,

1194
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 5: And that kind of stuff. There are definitely those that

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00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,439
Speaker 5: want me to run statewide, so we're not ruling out

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 5: a statewide run either. So there's just a lot of

1197
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 5: things at play because it's like maybe the House, maybe

1198
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,200
Speaker 5: it's over. Maybe that was the message, like I don't know,

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Speaker 5: we'll see what numbers look like. Potentially, Potentially we'll see.

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Speaker 5: I mean, right now, I'm focused on the redistricting.

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Speaker 4: We're in trial.

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Speaker 5: We're doing those things. But you know, filing doesn't end

1203
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 5: until December, and so what we're gonna do is we're

1204
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 5: gonna evaluate. We're not gonna take anything off the table,

1205
00:57:56,200 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 5: and we'll see. We know that my current Toorney General

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Speaker 5: Paxton is a uniquely bad candidate, and you know, it

1207
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 5: would be the best kind of fuck you to the

1208
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 5: Republicans to specifically target my state, specifically target my district.

1209
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 5: Worried about a House seat, and then I'd be able

1210
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 5: to snatch a Senate seat.

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00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 4: So so we'll see. Well, we'll keep doing evaluations.

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00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,920
Speaker 5: I can tell you that you know, from everything that

1213
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,360
Speaker 5: we know without having done our own polling, it is

1214
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 5: definitely within striking range.

1215
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 4: So we'll see.

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Speaker 2: Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett Man, please play for pray for Congresswoman

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00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: Jasmin Crockett. Always and you know you just be safe

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Speaker 2: out here, right. We appreciate you. It's the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 3: Every day, Up the Breakfast Club. Finish, y'all done,