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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast, Making America Great Again. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by Head and Shoulders. My name is Dan Jansas,

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Speaker 1: and I'm joined by room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, heyd Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year's These New Year's Eve night here in the

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Speaker 1: city of Angels Mark translation of Los Angeles. That is

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Speaker 1: inaccurate translation by youth. You know it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good pod when Dan's breaking out five different accents in

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Speaker 1: the minute before the podcast. That's yes, everybody, I'm in

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Speaker 1: a good mood. It's I like New Year's now that

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Speaker 1: I've gotten past the the young having to make an

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Speaker 1: important fun night, I like to enjoy it. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: forward to getting home to my family and and all that.

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Speaker 1: But before that, we have a lot to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Two fifty six games. Now, guys in the rear view,

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Speaker 1: twenty teams take the old dirt nap later and now

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Speaker 1: we move on to guess what, guys, The Crucible of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Crucible is my favorite Bowl ahead is that

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Speaker 1: at the end, very yes, the Crucible is coming and

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Speaker 1: to get their teams had to survive Week seventeen, and Greg,

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Speaker 1: I know you love football. The joy over my time

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Speaker 1: working with you, Greg, you love the game. And Week

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Speaker 1: seventeen started out slow in those early games, but by

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Speaker 1: the end of the day there was some fun football

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Speaker 1: and a lot to look forward to. It's pretty rare

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Speaker 1: that there's that much on the line late in Week seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and it just turned out. I don't know if there

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Speaker 1: were a lot of classics, but all the games that

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Speaker 1: various parts of the afternoon, Okay, these teams are in.

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Speaker 1: I know that team's going there, and I'm thinking of

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Speaker 1: what the playoffs are, matchups are going to be, and

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Speaker 1: they changed on a minute by minute basis. It's good stuff.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if there were classic games individually, but

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Speaker 1: the overall look of what happened in the late late

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Speaker 1: stages of the day made for a fascinating, probably the

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Speaker 1: most fascinating regular season week of football we've seen all year.

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Speaker 1: And whenever a Sunday ends with the glowing ginger man

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Speaker 1: Andy Dalton having the greatest moment of his career, I'll

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Speaker 1: sign off on that Sunday. Wow. Talking about the greatest

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Speaker 1: moment of it. Here's the thing is, here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You have to come up with what would be better?

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Speaker 1: And I'm searching my mind. There probably is some regular

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Speaker 1: season a handful of games in the two thousand season.

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Speaker 1: It was a nice moment, though. This had a nice

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Speaker 1: added rival out of the playoffs, so that it had

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Speaker 1: his emphasis. It's the last thing we'll see from him.

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Speaker 1: And he knocked and you did it in Marvin Lewis's

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Speaker 1: last game, the guy who drafted you after fifteen years,

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Speaker 1: to send him out on a win like that and

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Speaker 1: get rid of the old rat birds. That's got a field.

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Speaker 1: Oh at midnight, West is gonna light up the dossier

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Speaker 1: and start fresh, started new with a new coach and

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Speaker 1: a bungles team that's going to the heavens. How can

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Speaker 1: you have your biggest when ever in a season that

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Speaker 1: was over three or four weeks. All right, it's a

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Speaker 1: good final start for Dalton and Cincinnati. We will get well,

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Speaker 1: we'll see about that. There's a lot, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: to learn in the future, but right now we'll stay

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Speaker 1: in the present. Talk about the games of Week seventeen

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Speaker 1: will start in the NFC, where we had some decisions

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. Let's go Newton on first out, throwing over

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Speaker 1: the middle. It's high, deflected and intercepted by Kian O'Neil.

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Speaker 1: Neil very right to the thirty yard line. At the

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Speaker 1: Cam Newton at an absolute dagger to the Panthers chances

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Speaker 1: of coming back to Atlanta. Kevin Kulger Westwood one with

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Speaker 1: six yard in the second half in Atlanta, clinched a

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Speaker 1: playoff spot by beating the sloppy path. There's twenty two

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Speaker 1: The Falcons stepped up when they needed to, specifically that defense,

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Speaker 1: which really gave Cam Newton problems. Cam Newton started oh

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Speaker 1: They're not as explosive as they used to be. If

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Speaker 1: for why you say, you know Atlanta the NFC is

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Speaker 1: a very strong conference, but Atlanta deserves to be here

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Speaker 1: over some of the teams they didn't that didn't get in.

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Speaker 1: They earned it. They beat almost all the wild card

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Speaker 1: much as we've dogged the Falcons, they beat for the

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Speaker 1: But I just don't see like the explosive place still

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Speaker 1: like changed the way I thought about the Falcons. I'm

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Speaker 1: To me, they're the weakest NFC team heading into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Things can change fast, but I think they've been very

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Speaker 1: So the Panthers the pants Panthers lose, which took away

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Speaker 1: the Saints in Tampa, greg The Saints clinched the NFC South,

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Speaker 1: I think next week playing the Panthers, a team they've

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Speaker 1: throw two ghastly interceptions three total, but two were just inexcusable,

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Speaker 1: accomplishment for him and and for their coaching staff. I um,

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Speaker 1: you're not buying it, Westen. Good, good for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: good for their fans. Now let's talk real now. Now

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Speaker 1: Jacksonville gets to have the most attractive matchup in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: but the Bills have the most attractive matchup in the

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Speaker 1: playoffs too. For the Bills are the fifth worst team

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Speaker 1: by point differential in the history of the playoffs. They

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Speaker 1: are last among playoff teams in just about every category.

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Speaker 1: They lost their best player to an ankle injury in

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Speaker 1: this game. Jay McCoy went down right. That's why you

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Speaker 1: enjoy today. This is a land to the slaughter situation

439
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Speaker 1: going on next week. But they're playing they You don't

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Speaker 1: think the Jaguars are the worst team with a home

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Speaker 1: game next week. I think they are by far. And

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Speaker 1: they're going into the playoffs with their own sets of issues,

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Speaker 1: so at least they give the Bills a little hope.

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Speaker 1: I think that might be the seven I would say

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Speaker 1: is if ever, if ever Buffalo we're do up end Jacksonville,

446
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Speaker 1: then Greg's Patriots host the Buffalo Bills in the divisional

447
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Speaker 1: round of the playoffs, and it's gonna happen. It's all

448
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Speaker 1: set up to work out that way. We'll see, We'll

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Speaker 1: see how it plays out. But um, and it should

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Speaker 1: be mentioned, and this is why sports are fun, even

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Speaker 1: though it's gonna hurt us in the wallet or colleen specifically,

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Speaker 1: you'ld stick a fork in them so close. And you

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Speaker 1: could blame this on the Ravens and John Harbaugh's defense

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Speaker 1: because we we stuck a fork in the Bills a

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Speaker 1: couple of months ago or or about six weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: and and they are in playoffs. So that means we

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Speaker 1: will be making a charitable donation. She will be she

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Speaker 1: will be making a charitable donation uh to a uh

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Speaker 1: AN organization in the Western New York or Buffalo Greater

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Speaker 1: Buffalo area. So we're happy to be wrong. It's her

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Speaker 1: birthday this week, and she's you know, I'm sure Colleen,

462
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Speaker 1: well I would get some birthday money from you know,

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Speaker 1: the higher echelon people in her family, but it's gonna

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Speaker 1: go straight to Western I mean, we get what are

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Speaker 1: we have a streak of getting one of these wrong

466
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Speaker 1: just about every year. We're like, it's actually better to

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Speaker 1: get one wrong than just to get all these you know,

468
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Speaker 1: try to play chalk and and and say, oh no

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Speaker 1: charity this year, um and one other point. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: the and the Bills are not a compelling team, especially

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Speaker 1: if Shane McCoy is not playing, and we'll see how

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Speaker 1: serious that ankle injury is. But there is something really

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Speaker 1: fun um about having that week as a fan, even

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Speaker 1: leading up to one playoff game, you have that week.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had a lot of that mark you have

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Speaker 1: had hardly any in the last twenty years. But that's

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Speaker 1: a really fun week building up to your playoff weekend.

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Speaker 1: And if you win a game, it's great. I think

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Speaker 1: the Bills it's a big step forward for them. And

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Speaker 1: you entered Sunday not expecting to make the playoffs, just

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Speaker 1: because of the help that you needed. You know, you

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Speaker 1: beat the Dolphins expecting to make and you like the

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Speaker 1: three The three hours during the game had to be

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun, especially the moment where you heard

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Speaker 1: David Fails is going to be playing quarterback exactly. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's move on. Mariota takes the snap, looking stepping up.

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Speaker 1: He can run this thing. Instead, he'll pull it back.

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Speaker 1: He'll sneak around the edge to stiff fifty down. My

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Speaker 1: goodness to you, my throw is special. What heart, what

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Speaker 1: courage as he's actually giving it back to the Jags

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Speaker 1: a little bit with a stiff arm, saying I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to quit, I'm going to the postseason cut it.

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Speaker 1: Oh wow, Mike Keith w g f X are a

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Speaker 1: great call. Um. Marcus Mariota threw a touchdown and used

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Speaker 1: his legs to help the Tennessee Titoons and an eight

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Speaker 1: season uh drought without a postseason birth. They beat the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars fifteen to ten on Sunday. UH So the Titans

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Speaker 1: are head into January football West. Uh. It's not easy

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Speaker 1: to get excited about this Tennessee team, but that Mariota

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Speaker 1: stiff arm as Mike Keith got all pumped up about

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Speaker 1: it's essentially, uh, it's it's a nice little moment for

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Speaker 1: this team and the season for Tennessee. That was a

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Speaker 1: great thing to watch that play. That might not even

504
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: been his best run on that drive. He had another

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Speaker 1: run more physical early in the drive to move the sticks,

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Speaker 1: and he sealed the game with his legs. On a

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Speaker 1: day when Derrick Henry could not run the ball and

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Speaker 1: the Titans offense was not impressive whatsoever. The Jaguars gave

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Speaker 1: this game away with it with a two fumble sequence

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Speaker 1: going into halftime. Jadon mickens Um called a fair catch,

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Speaker 1: went to block the ball bound stuff his leg for

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Speaker 1: a fumble. Then the next drive, Keelan Cool fumbled the ball.

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Speaker 1: Both of those were easy field goals for the Titans

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Speaker 1: without them even having to move the ball, and that

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Speaker 1: was the game. There was a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: second half momentum with the Jaguars when when in Goqway

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Speaker 1: returned to fumble sixty seven yards for a touchdown, But

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Speaker 1: then Mariota sealed it. This is not a good Titans team.

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Speaker 1: And I understand your viewpoint that Titans and Bills fans

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Speaker 1: have to be thrilled for their fandom. My fandom is

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Speaker 1: good football in a season where there's been a lot

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Speaker 1: of bad football. And I'd like to see two teams

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Speaker 1: like the Chargers and Ravens who were above eighty eight

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Speaker 1: on point differential instead of two of the worst playoff teams,

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Speaker 1: the Titans and Bills. I don't think we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: good football games. One of the problems is I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I mean, I look at I watched the

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Speaker 1: Chargers today and looked at a team and I think

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Speaker 1: could have beaten anyone in the a f C. It

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Speaker 1: to play the way they did for stretches on Sunday,

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Speaker 1: and they're out because they couldn't handle their business against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs. And then you look at the Jaguars. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna host a home playoff game, but they're the same

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Speaker 1: team that's been swept by a team we can't see

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Speaker 1: anything more than a hyper vanilla a f C playoff entry.

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Speaker 1: These teams are really indecipherable from one to the next.

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Speaker 1: And my side of two in the a f C,

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Speaker 1: I think if Titan's lost this game, we would be

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Speaker 1: writing a Mike Malarkey is Fired post on Monday. Now

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Speaker 1: we might still be writing that post at if they

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Speaker 1: lose in the playoffs, They're going to Kansas City, which

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Speaker 1: is not I think the Chiefs have to be thrilled

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Speaker 1: um with that matchup versus having to face the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. Maybe it saves Mike Malarkey's job,

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Speaker 1: or you'd still have weeks to hire Josh McDaniels or

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia to pair with your Expatriots front office. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'd be a little concerned though, if you're Jacksonville. Not

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Speaker 1: so much on the defensive side of the ball, but

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Speaker 1: but a game that they clearly wanted to win today

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee and the offense has just you know, you know,

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00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: week to week proposition. We we all know their formula.

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Speaker 1: They have to get in front early and unleashed that

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Speaker 1: pass rush. They did not get in front early, and

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Speaker 1: they are a totally different team when they're playing from behind.

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Speaker 1: I Meannes only had eleven first down so it's kind

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Speaker 1: of hard to kill the Jaguards defense in the game.

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Speaker 1: I will kill them for what happened against the Niners

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Speaker 1: last week. If you pair this game in that game

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Speaker 1: and tell and you tell people this is your third

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Speaker 1: seed in the a f C. You need you need

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Speaker 1: to run the ball better. They haven't. For Net hasn't

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Speaker 1: run the ball very well whether they're leading or trailing

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Speaker 1: in his last handful of games. C. We've known this

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Speaker 1: for months, how soft the a f C. And it

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Speaker 1: still feels very much me like Steelers and Patriots. It's

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Speaker 1: a collision course situation, which maybe that game, if it

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Speaker 1: does end up happening, is so good that it makes

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Speaker 1: us forget about how maybe forgettable next week could end

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Speaker 1: up being, and maybe even the first two weeks they

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Speaker 1: have sleep on the Chiefs. They're they're playing their best ball.

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Speaker 1: A little bit of a wild card the Chiefs because

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Speaker 1: they've seems to have gotten back together. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: it plays out. I think this Titans team is a

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Speaker 1: fine surrogate for the Bengals on West, the traditionally Saturday

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Speaker 1: West of this game. Yeah, the Titans are really that's

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Speaker 1: a good point because they're kind of the team that

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Speaker 1: you root against anyways, So west of us is that

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Speaker 1: you like Mariotta what it's very conflicting that he was

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Speaker 1: your guy for so I think this Titans team is

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Speaker 1: not the Titans team you liked to season to go

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Speaker 1: on any level, and that's irritated you. I think the

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Speaker 1: Titans still have a bright future. I don't think they

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Speaker 1: have any future this season, and west of his I

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Speaker 1: don't think my body Okay, they ended a nine year round. No,

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Speaker 1: it's been a little while for their teams. The listeners

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00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 1: out there, if you want to celebrate west of this

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Speaker 1: there there is an option this year with the Titans.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying? West then they can handle

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Speaker 1: this year's Baccanalia for me? Yeah, for new listeners, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the first Saturday afternoon game. And of course they

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Speaker 1: put the Titans there. Of course, there we go. Let's

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Speaker 1: move on checking on the throne of ease from pretty

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Speaker 1: he runs zone touchdown Patriots. Let's call Josh what is that?

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Speaker 1: What's what is that? Nice called? Josh? Oh? Calm down?

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Speaker 1: First name Bass, grow up, Peter Band, Bob Sochy and

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Speaker 1: Scott's Zola w b Z with the call Yes, Dion Lewis, Oh,

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Speaker 1: he's playing well. He ran for a touchdown, caught a

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Speaker 1: caught a pass for a touchdown and the New England

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Speaker 1: Patriots have clinched home field advantage throughout the playoffs. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They are the top seed in the A f C

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Speaker 1: to six win over the Jets at frigid Foxborough. The

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Speaker 1: Pats they'll take a vacation eventually get some overmatched a

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Speaker 1: f C also ran in their building in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: It's nice the Jets lose nine of them to finish

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Speaker 1: five and eleven for the second straight year. They will

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Speaker 1: peak pick sixth overall in April's draft. I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much what great I mean, they could get the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs that if the Seeds hold, they're gonna get the

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Speaker 1: Chiefs in there outs the team that beat him in Foxborough.

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Speaker 1: If the Seeds hold. Yes, we'll just see how it

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Speaker 1: plays out on the thrown as. That's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how plays out. Um, what can you take

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Speaker 1: from this game? Well, Dion Lewis, as I said, and

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Speaker 1: we've been seeing this for weeks now, is really talented

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Speaker 1: and special. And Greg, I heard you say downstairs, you

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Speaker 1: think you might be the best running back in the

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Speaker 1: Belichick era for the Patriots potentially. I think for his

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Speaker 1: total game, the way he's playing now is as good

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Speaker 1: or better than any running back that they've ever had.

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Speaker 1: Because Corey Dillon, you had to take you had to

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Speaker 1: take Corey Dillon off the field right now out dialon

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Speaker 1: rush for over sixt hundred yards and was the backbone

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Speaker 1: of that offense. Dean Lewis has been the backbone in

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Speaker 1: the last eight weeks. No, he's been the backbone for

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Speaker 1: like a month. He never had twenty touches in the game.

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Speaker 1: And science to go that is I can't believe you're

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Speaker 1: saying that court, but that's just wrong. No way. Corey Dillon,

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Speaker 1: his borderline Hall of Fame, played half this. You had

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Speaker 1: to take I'm just saying you gotta play take him off.

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Speaker 1: I love Corey deal. And you have to take Adrian

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Speaker 1: Peterson off the field in his two thousand yards. He's

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00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: give me a break anyway. So yeah, So Dion Lewis

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Speaker 1: looks great. Thirty two touches, which a lot of touches,

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00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: by the way, in a week seventeen game like this,

635
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Speaker 1: but they had the two weeks. Uh, Tom Brady missed

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Speaker 1: some throws, but it was like eleven degrees or five

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Speaker 1: degrees something like that. Negative two winshow called this game

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Speaker 1: in their second called US and degrees warmer than Minnesota

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00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: where we'll be in four weeks for US. Gronk was

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Speaker 1: not targeted in this game before disappearing in the second half.

641
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: They made sure to put him in bubble wrap. So

642
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: the Patriots take care of business. They get the number

643
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: one seed. And of note, in this game, James Harrison,

644
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 1: and I don't want anybody people might end up making

645
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 1: too much of this. He he had two sacks in

646
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: this game, um and uh four tackles. He played twenty

647
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: eight of a possible fifty seven defensive snaps. That makes

648
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: it sound like he was, you know, old James Harrison.

649
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Both sacks came in the last minute when Calvin Beecham

650
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: looked like he was eyeing the locker room because his

651
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: feet were frozen. Um. So I don't want to get

652
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: too crazy about it. But at the same time, Harrison

653
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: moved kind of like James Harrison, and he could be

654
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: a guy that didn't have one devastating run stop. Yeah,

655
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: he made to pay. I pretty much watched because there

656
00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: wasn't much else that mattered in this game. Uh after

657
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 1: a while, I watched every single snap he took. I

658
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 1: just would watch him, and he looks solid. He looked

659
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: like James Harrison. He's gonna matter for this team. I mean,

660
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: I think he'll be playing starter snaps in the playoffs.

661
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Whether he's a standout or not, I don't know, but

662
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: I think he's better than Marky's Flowers and who's played

663
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 1: a little better lately, and Trevor Riley and some of

664
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,800
Speaker 1: the guys that they've had in there, uh and Todd

665
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: Bowls and Big Mac. Before this game it was announced

666
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 1: that they're both resigned their coming back. UH, So we'll

667
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: see what happens there. I don't know if this helped

668
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's you know, m v P case here yards pertend.

669
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: I think he'll probably get it, but he definitely definitely

670
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: ended the season not playing as well. And I think

671
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: it's not insignificant that they were missing James White, Rex

672
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Burkhead and Chris Hogan down the stretch, and you might

673
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,800
Speaker 1: have all those guys and Malcolm Mitchell back for the playoffs.

674
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 1: It's you don't really know. Is first eleven games this

675
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 1: season he had a one thirteen rating on deep balls,

676
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 1: and his last five games of the season that was right,

677
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 1: and he he had some ugly throws in this game.

678
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 1: Two you couldn't You don't know if it was because

679
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 1: of the weather, which is certainly would be. I think

680
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: that was a factor. All right, Mark, let's not put

681
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: it off any further. Fourth down in two with the

682
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: twenty cheven Kaiser back to pass. He's up in the pocket,

683
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: he got out of a sack, he's running, he's throwing.

684
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: It's caught at the eleven yard line. Oh, now they're

685
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: gonna rule it incomplete. He dropped the ball over on

686
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: the left sideline as he had a man wide open

687
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: and Coleman couldn't hang on to it at the eleven. Oh,

688
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 1: Corey Coleman, hold on to the ball. The Cleveland Browns,

689
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 1: they have secured an infamous place in the history books.

690
00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Coleman's fourth down drop was the decisive play in a

691
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: loss to the Steelers, the Steelers, who were playing backups

692
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: in several key positions. It was the sixteenth loss in

693
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: sixteen tries for the Brown Browns, who joined the two

694
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,640
Speaker 1: thousand and eight Lions. Is the only oh and sixteen

695
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 1: teams in NFL history. Alright, so here he comes, Nick

696
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: shook sits down with us. Where even this guy will

697
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: to pumpet? Did you get a puppet tonight? And it

698
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: h Jim's closed to night? Well, it's closed now, but

699
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you don't have like a home spread. I

700
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 1: don't worry. I get it in outside of the weight

701
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: rend don't worry anyway. Look, you can even tell it

702
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 1: shook a little aggro. It's been a tough day. He

703
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: didn't get the quite the pump you wanted earlier. So

704
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 1: here's Mark and Shook together and um, guys, the Coleman

705
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: drop was symbolic in the season that yes did become

706
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 1: the darkest timeline in Cleveland football sixteen. Yeah, I'm just

707
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: left at this point. I mean, I think we Shook

708
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: and I have talked every time we're in the office together,

709
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: and we've this was coming. Wait, this, this was not

710
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: Today didn't decide anything. So the game was closer than

711
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: I thought it would be, to be honest, but I

712
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,400
Speaker 1: just I'm left with a an utter, hollow feeling and

713
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: one that you know, even though you go into the

714
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: off season with all these draft picks, I don't know

715
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: if I trust this organization after all the missteps too accurately,

716
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: uh laid the foundation for anything better. I mean, it'll

717
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: be better than oh in sixteen, But I just I

718
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 1: don't know, Shook. I'm left complete Lee, Uh, sort of

719
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: mortified and stunned by a team that found a way

720
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: to lose every week. More than any combination of football

721
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: teams I've ever watched in my life. It was unbelievable

722
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,279
Speaker 1: to look at every single game and have there be

723
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 1: two or three decisive plays that made it super clear

724
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: and evident that Cleveland would not win. In the larger picture,

725
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: every year when the Browns struggled to four and twelve,

726
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: three and thirteen, five and eleven missed the playoffs, there's

727
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,080
Speaker 1: always the saving grace that well, at least the Browns

728
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 1: don't own the longest playoff drought in the NFL. Well,

729
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: that changed today, as as well as their entry into

730
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: the history books at O N sixteen and it it

731
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: is a new feeling. It's one that will never quite

732
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: go away because they'll always be associated with never winning

733
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: a game in one season. But in fact, I just

734
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 1: now looked at the stats from this game. I don't

735
00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: even know how they did. I just saw how they

736
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: did on the field. Watching the game and that last

737
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: drop and the doing. You know, I guess the football

738
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: world in general one of the Browns to win today.

739
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: And I almost felt like the Steelers kind of one

740
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: of the Browns to win today, and they still couldn't

741
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: get out of their own way. I mean they started

742
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 1: Landry Jones and Stephen Ridley, so I know this. Oh,

743
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,400
Speaker 1: and you thought this loss was coming, but you lost

744
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: to this. They lost to the Steelers backups in a

745
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: in a game where they were in position. If their

746
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: first round pick just you know, catches a ball right

747
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: in his hands in the last second, you're at the

748
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: ten yard line with with a chance to to beat them.

749
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 1: I'm I guess, I I don't know. I'm still surprised.

750
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:40,719
Speaker 1: That's why it was sombolic. Coleman drafted six overall last year,

751
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: just one of the many first round picks over the

752
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: years that were supposed to take this team finally start

753
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,600
Speaker 1: doing building blocks and and get out of this funk.

754
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: And he's a problem, just like so many other of

755
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 1: these past guys have been a problem. Now, you hope

756
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 1: with the first overall pick in the fourth fourth overall pick, uh,

757
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: in addition to everything else they have coming, that they

758
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 1: make something of it. But this is kind of Oh,

759
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: it's sixteen. They were dancing around for several years now

760
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: and finally landed on It's just a little more. I

761
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 1: guess it probably stings a little more because this was

762
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: supposed to be a year of growth and ended up

763
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: going in the worst possible direction. I think, I think

764
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: you look at a firing that did happen today as

765
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: opposed to one that won't happen in Cluland this year

766
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: in Jack del Rio, a guy who posted a six

767
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 1: and ten record and got fired for it after going

768
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: twelve and four the year prior, in seven and nine

769
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,240
Speaker 1: the year before. And then you look at Hugh Jackson,

770
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: who's won in thirty right, he won. He won del

771
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: Rio on eight teen games over the last two years

772
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: and Hugh on one. Yeah. Well, look, and they did it.

773
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: To be clear, Jimmy Haslum came out, and as much

774
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: as they've said it throughout the past few weeks, no

775
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: one seemed to believe it. But immediately after this game

776
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: he did tell a reporter that I, in his word,

777
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: I told John Dorsey the GM that he was he

778
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 1: was staying. And that's interesting wording. I don't like that

779
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: because that sets up for samanimosity down the road when

780
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,919
Speaker 1: you know next season doesn't go well and he wants

781
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: to ax, you know, Hugh Jackson or whatever. And I

782
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: mean there's just that right there. That's not healthy, especially

783
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: for New GM. It's it is not encouraging to pile

784
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 1: on top of an sixteen. Here's what you had to

785
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: say after the game. Very unfortunate there at the end.

786
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 1: Our guys played hard and I've said that all year. Um,

787
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: this football team has given me everything they have and

788
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: I know that. So, uh, this is just where we are.

789
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: We're an on sixteen football team. I get it, I hear.

790
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:22,400
Speaker 1: I know about the parades and everything that's gonna be said.

791
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: But trust me, I don't think anybody know what the

792
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: fight is in that room and how much these guys

793
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: continued every week and it is their job to go

794
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: out and compete and fight. So again, we didn't get

795
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: it done, and that's where we are. We got a

796
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,400
Speaker 1: lot of work to do. Excited about the future. You know,

797
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: when this day is over, we'll turn the page on

798
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: this and move forward. All Well, that's enough from him.

799
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,960
Speaker 1: Got a lot of nerves sing trust me after last

800
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: time he said trust me when he drafted Cody Kessler

801
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: and acted like he was going to be the franchise quarterback.

802
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: The problem I would be most disturbed as a fan

803
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 1: because at the top of the food chain here, your

804
00:40:56,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 1: owner comes out and says, this guy has magic because

805
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 1: he was a hot assistant coach a couple of years ago.

806
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: As if assistant coaching has anything to do with head

807
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: coaching in the NFL, as if running a good offense

808
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: means you're a head coach. This guy's record is embarrassing.

809
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: You could have literally put a jersey on a trash

810
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: can and he would have had the same record or

811
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: even a better record as the head coach in Cleveland. Yeah,

812
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,480
Speaker 1: it's it's ultra distressing. But I would say to Browns fans, like,

813
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 1: what do you what do you do? Just give up

814
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 1: and walk away from the team. Drop. I wouldn't do it. Oh,

815
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,239
Speaker 1: N sixteen is still not as bad as not having

816
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 1: a team for three years. And I'm just I'm just

817
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,319
Speaker 1: gonna make that that point. Alright. So the Browns are

818
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: and six team. They have the first pick in April's draft.

819
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the team that has the second pick.

820
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 1: Manning on a long count, hands it off for dark Us,

821
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,120
Speaker 1: screezes off the right side across the thirty five breaks

822
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: at top of the field pace to the forty. It's

823
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: a foot race. Thirty fifteen ten five footch dark Giants

824
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: seventy five yard for Lea Star Bob Papa w f

825
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 1: an or the call uh yes uh Orleans Arqua had

826
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 1: a long touchdown round Eli Manning through his three and

827
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: thirty ninth and perhaps final touchdown for the Giants win

828
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: over the Redskins, closing out a disappointing season for the

829
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 1: two NFC East rivals. Uh shook. How do you see

830
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,879
Speaker 1: this playing out for the gym? It was a really

831
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: kind of weird finish to this very awkward and uh

832
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,960
Speaker 1: disappointed season for the Giants because at one point in

833
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,320
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, the Giants were again on the doorstep

834
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: of scoring, and you know they're going to take a

835
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: knee inside two minutes to just finish this game off

836
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: and not risk any injury going to the off season,

837
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: and the fans in MetLife Stadium, we're leading a massive

838
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: Eli Manning chant and it felt kind of like, especially

839
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: the way he ran off the field waving to the

840
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: crowd and they're all staying and crowding around the tunnels

841
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,800
Speaker 1: so they can cheer him off the field. It felt

842
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 1: like his last game. And I don't think that's necessarily

843
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 1: going to happen, but it just felt like that. And

844
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: to and to bring a season like this to a close,

845
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: with such an environment, with a team that you don't

846
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: know where they're headed. You don't know. I mean, you've

847
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 1: got two running backs. You have no idea if either

848
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: them will even be on the roster next year. In

849
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: Orleans Dark One, Wayne Gallman. Gallman actually looked really good

850
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: those touches. Um, It's just it's such a weird spot

851
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: for the Giants. But in this game, even more than

852
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 1: the Giants, I thought about the Redskins. Kirk Cousins looked

853
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: really rough today and it was cold Gus. Giants are

854
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 1: as kryptonite. They have destroyed him the last two years,

855
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 1: and he looked every time they play it was bad.

856
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: It was I mean, three interceptions bad and they were

857
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: drop passes and whatnot. But it just that worried me

858
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: more than anything. He's gonna be the highest paid player

859
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, I'm not worried about him. I

860
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: mean his Week seventeen performance against the Giants last year,

861
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: which ruined their chances of getting to the playoffs, was

862
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: was maybe the worst game of his career. Um, I

863
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: think eli Manning's chances of returning to the team are

864
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: pretty high now that Dave Gettlman as the general manager,

865
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: which has happened since ownership says they wanted we last

866
00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: did a podcast, and the thought with Gettleman there, he's

867
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: already started cleaning some house. He he cut an offensive lineman.

868
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: They didn't like Bobby Heart's attitude. He got rid of

869
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: some of the front office guys that were beneath them.

870
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: And the thought is that he's an ELI supporter, and

871
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: we'll want to draft someone that ELI can help, you know,

872
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:18,040
Speaker 1: as a mentor. Do you think that ELI is that

873
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 1: guy who does that though, like I think it's in

874
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 1: a disposition to do it, but I wonder if other

875
00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: people do. Doesn't have a choice, the better draft a

876
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: quarterback at number two. We'll see how it all plays out.

877
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: This is certainly the draft for it, and we'll see

878
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: if they make the pick. Let's move on. Kareem Hunt

879
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: is in the game, of course, challenging for the NFL

880
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: rushing title, but with the injury to shirt Candrick West,

881
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna get a carry here he goes up the

882
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: right scene five touchdown ten City. Karim Hunt with the

883
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: first and all run up thirty five yards against this

884
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 1: fronted Bronco defense told this case FX of the call. Yes,

885
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: Kareem Hunt made the most of his lone carry of

886
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: the day, uh, and Harrison Bucker connected on a thirty

887
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: yard field goal as time expired, lifting the Chiefs to

888
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: win over the Broncos and Patrick Mahomes mahomes first career

889
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,399
Speaker 1: start shook. Denver couldn't even beat the second stringth Chiefs

890
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 1: in their own building. This vance Joseph thing hasn't worked,

891
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: and it appears John Elway might be ready to admit

892
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: another mistake. I think Vaunta defense is a little exaggeration

893
00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: for this Denver defense this year. But Patrick Mahomes no,

894
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: not not, not really right you are, Uh. Patrick Mahomes

895
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: was excellent today. He had, you know, his rookie struggles

896
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: to begin the game, which you expect for a guy

897
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: making his first start, and especially in an environment like that.

898
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: But he bounced back pretty quickly after his interception early,

899
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 1: and he was I mean, he was electric. Everything that

900
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 1: you saw from him in in the pre draft process

901
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 1: and everything that everybody raved about with a strong arm

902
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 1: and the mobility and everything, it was all there and

903
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 1: it all I mean, he made some throws that you think, oh,

904
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: you know, a season guy doesn't do that. He throws

905
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: the way it doesn't try and force it in there.

906
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,200
Speaker 1: And they didn't really hurt him today. They could have,

907
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,720
Speaker 1: especially in that last drive. But overall everything that everybody

908
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,439
Speaker 1: you know was was drooling over is it's it's there?

909
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: I mean? And in comparison to Paxton Lynch, is it

910
00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: like that? Was it? Paxton Lynch had a decent day,

911
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: had probably his best day as a Bronco, which the

912
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 1: bar is not very high. But if I had to

913
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: pick between the two, I'm taking the homes every time.

914
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, um, what a day for cream hunt you

915
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: when the rushing yardage on one carry with the long touchdown,

916
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: it's the lowest amount a rushing leader has had. I

917
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 1: think it's like seven yards since j yeah. And we'll

918
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,240
Speaker 1: get to that when we settle up our sandwich props

919
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 1: because that banged me in a big spot, shook. You

920
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: have done um great work this season helping us out.

921
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:46,480
Speaker 1: And then we just want to thank you. I'd like

922
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: to thank the academy. Uh you for for welcoming me

923
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: on Lindsay, for being extra accommodating with bring me up here,

924
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,240
Speaker 1: and uh the what what do we call the Shadowy

925
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: League figures for this nice pull over there? It is, Yeah,

926
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: that I wore up here. You know, just just looks

927
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: like they poured you into that thing. That's you know

928
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: that the person who gave this to me he won't

929
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: be named, said, hey, you know it's an extra large

930
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: so I don't know if it's gonna fit, but I

931
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: know you kind of like to wear your shirts tight.

932
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: Well that's harassment. You can go right to yeah, you can.

933
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: Along with the flood of Dan's comments, um no, don't

934
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,359
Speaker 1: tell anybody about what I say. But thanks for having

935
00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: me on. All right, thank you, Shook, And we sent

936
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:27,320
Speaker 1: Shook off to get a one last pump in and

937
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 1: this special New Year's Eve show that bump no rest

938
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: of the weary. That is a hideous sound clip. Any way,

939
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: it's real. Let's move on second and nine from the

940
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: fifteen Keenum under centered, deep drop fire to the end

941
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: zone put puts down, step, touchdown, strike from case Keenum

942
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 1: to Stefon Diggs and the Kings of the North to

943
00:47:54,840 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: seven Paul Allen feeling himself in kf x N. It's

944
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: a um um, what's that stupid Show of Thrones? Rough

945
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: in a big spot. Now it's a stupid show. You

946
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: burnt out on a little bit, as as did. I

947
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 1: already calmed down. The wools went on for a bit.

948
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:18,359
Speaker 1: I don't care for the walker. Everybody just calmed down. Yeah.

949
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: Oh they're alive now and they were dead. Give me

950
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: a break. I'm dead and my live. Yeah. Frankly, I

951
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,600
Speaker 1: don't find much of the action in that show believable.

952
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: They have the dragons new you're gonna get the throne.

953
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,719
Speaker 1: By the way, the dragon is no longer dead either.

954
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,399
Speaker 1: Dragons pull them out with a big chain. You could

955
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: have condensed it into about an hour and forty five

956
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: minutes of action and take over this other here. You

957
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: That's how this particular guy talks the Vikings hard on

958
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: their dominant defense once again, a win over the Bears

959
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: that gives men so to our first round by for

960
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 1: the first time since that Brett Farve Golden run in

961
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 1: twenty nine. Mark this Vikings team is well set up

962
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: for you know what I'm gonna say, But that crucible,

963
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: the full echo effect is just fantastic. Yes they are,

964
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, and they you know they they played a

965
00:49:27,480 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: lesser opponent today and unlike some teams that we've already

966
00:49:30,680 --> 00:49:33,719
Speaker 1: talked about that could not handle their own responsibilities. In

967
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: Week seventeen, the Vikings just keep doing what they've done

968
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 1: all year. They get out to a twenty three to

969
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: seven start, and they just choked the Bears from there

970
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: and they get what they get to win, and I

971
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 1: think they're absolutely deserving of a by The Rams are

972
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: one of the scariest teams in the entire league right now,

973
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,200
Speaker 1: and they're gonna have to win one extra game. But

974
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 1: the Vikings, to me, are the team I just look

975
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: at and say, I believe in you, and I believe

976
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,000
Speaker 1: in you as a Super Bowl team. Well, they're gonna

977
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: to probably have to beat the Rams. If the Rams

978
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:06,719
Speaker 1: win on Wild Card weekend over Atlanta, they are going

979
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: to Minnesota. And that's why the whole idea of the

980
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 1: Rams are trying to lose to face Philadelphia. I didn't

981
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:14,360
Speaker 1: really buy that because you never know what's going to

982
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: happen in this scenario. And if I'm a Vikings fan,

983
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,359
Speaker 1: I don't like that matchup just because I think those

984
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: are the two best teams in the NFC, and I

985
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: think coming up with a game plan to slow down

986
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: the Rams a second time is gonna be tough, but

987
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: this Vikings defense just so solid. I think they have

988
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: given up one score in their last thirty six drives going.

989
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: When the Bears kicked a field goal late in this game,

990
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: they had had a shutout almost for two straight games.

991
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 1: The only touchdown that the Bears scored in this game

992
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 1: was off a very ingenious punt return where they faked

993
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: out you know, Treko and the only way they only

994
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: the only way they scored. Let's be fair to the

995
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: Vikings here. The Rams are the trendy pick. Everybody's obsessed

996
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: with him because they're fun to watch, they have a

997
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: great off ends balanced they are, they have the most

998
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 1: maybe the most innovative, young offensive mind in football, and

999
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 1: the Vikings beat him seven side of game. And the

1000
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: Vikings should be considered the favorites in the NFC right now.

1001
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: And that happened in Minnesota, and that's one place where

1002
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: the Vikings they at home. They have been so dominant

1003
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 1: on defense that that would be a fascinating a ment.

1004
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: They It's not their fault that they ended up playing

1005
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 1: the season against some lesser teams. I don't think their

1006
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:28,600
Speaker 1: offense was as sharp late in the season. I don't

1007
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 1: know if that really matters or not, but I think

1008
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: the Vikings would agree that their offense hasn't been as

1009
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 1: sharp the last three weeks three Live two six, Season five,

1010
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: episode twenty. Now you don't have to watch the next

1011
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: Seasonzer Hassan Ridgeway just safe thing Hassan, but a great

1012
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 1: blitz on t J Yates gets the safety and the

1013
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: lead now is sixteen. We'll believe Jake Brisket through for

1014
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:08,919
Speaker 1: one touchdown. Marlon Mack ran for one. The Colts beat

1015
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: the Texans in the last game for Check Pagano, who

1016
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: has let go officially at the conclusion of the regular season.

1017
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,760
Speaker 1: Pagano lasted six seasons as the Colts head coach, finished

1018
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: fifty three and forty three, but has not been better

1019
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: than eight and eight in the final three years of

1020
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: his run there. And he finishes four and twelve in

1021
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: his final season. That's not going to get to get

1022
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 1: it done, whether or not you got Andrew Luck playing.

1023
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: Uh So, there you go. Chuck Pogano, one of the

1024
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: NFL's good guys, as West pointed out, a cancer survivor,

1025
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:46,439
Speaker 1: but no longer employed. I think it's we talked about

1026
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: what happens when you bringing a general manager who's asked

1027
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 1: to hang with the coach in his first season as GM.

1028
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: And this is not a shocking result. It could have

1029
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: easily happened multiple seasons ago or last year. And it's

1030
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,800
Speaker 1: just as a cautionary tale to me that if you

1031
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: don't allow the GM empower enough to pick his guy

1032
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: right out of the gate, you're wasting a season, which

1033
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: is why the Browns thing doesn't make sense. Multiple teams

1034
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: and like, but this year specifically wasted. It's a waste

1035
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,680
Speaker 1: for the brown Like. Pagano convinced Jimmer Say through I

1036
00:53:19,719 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: think the force of his personality and a couple of

1037
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: late season wins to give him a four year contract

1038
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: two years ago, so he has paid in full for

1039
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: a couple of extra years. He seems like a guy

1040
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: who's gonna want to keep coaching, but who knows. I

1041
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it feels like to me a

1042
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: guy who's at peace with whatever happens, even if it

1043
00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: means walking off into the sunset with Bruce, his good

1044
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,399
Speaker 1: friend Bruce Arey. I do, I do, and did enjoy

1045
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: the end of this game. Frank Gore had a hundred

1046
00:53:46,680 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: yards in this game and Pogano clearly enjoying getting a

1047
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: monkey off their back after a long losing streak to

1048
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,400
Speaker 1: go out as a winner. Just seeing those two guys

1049
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: win a game. Oh yeah, and I locked it up

1050
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: to very nice. The biggest news for the Texans involves

1051
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: general manager Rick Smith, who announced he's taking an extended

1052
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 1: leave of absence to take care of his wife, Uh,

1053
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Tiffany Smith, who recently was diagnosed with breast cancer. Oof

1054
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 1: challenging season for the Texans in many ways, but that's

1055
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 1: some real life stuff right there. And um, I heard

1056
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: it bubbling around that whoever ends up taking over, they

1057
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 1: might be a more permanent situation. We'll see what happens.

1058
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,279
Speaker 1: And uh, we don't know what's going on, but it

1059
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: looks like Bill O'Brien is gonna stick around. Rick Smith

1060
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 1: is gone and we don't know if he'll be back.

1061
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: The Colts will pick third in the draft of Texans,

1062
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: slot in at number four, but they have sent that

1063
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: pick to the Browns and last year's Deshaun Watson trade.

1064
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 1: How great did that work out for? That worked out

1065
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 1: and it worked out for the Texans too. They got

1066
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: their quarterback. Everybody wins. Let's move on one point about

1067
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: the texts, but about the NFL in general. You know,

1068
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 1: we've been mentioning Game of Thrones, which is this episodical

1069
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,160
Speaker 1: cliffhanger from week to week for people who are obsessed

1070
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: to show how about the NFL as an episodical cliffhanger?

1071
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,080
Speaker 1: You think you know what's going on with the Texans,

1072
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: and then not only is Bill O'Brien staying, but Rick

1073
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Smith is probably leaving and they're gonna hire a whole

1074
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: new general manager, and it sounds there are many way

1075
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 1: and it's so unfortunate that it's a it's a family

1076
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: and health issue that Rick Smith is leaving for now.

1077
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: But even before that popped up, there are reports that

1078
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: they might move Rick Smith into a president role, which

1079
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: would ultimately be a promotion. He'd be making more money,

1080
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:34,640
Speaker 1: but be on the non football side of things. It

1081
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise me if he returns to the organization that capacity,

1082
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: kind of like Rich McKay in Atlanta once did when

1083
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 1: he lost his GM job. Let's move up now. I

1084
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: formation with Derek Watt between Gordon and Rivers that was

1085
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 1: definitely like haf God break through the right side to

1086
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:56,720
Speaker 1: the middle. Well, it comes out into the hands touchdown conductor,

1087
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: you just gotta keep things moving. No, I'm sure Matt

1088
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 1: money Smith will appreciate us with all over his game call,

1089
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,799
Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, are you still talking about

1090
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,320
Speaker 1: ricks Smith? Please? Plenty of time to talk about the

1091
00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,880
Speaker 1: Texans front office structure, but no more time for the

1092
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: poor Chargers because Philip Rivers played well. He threw for

1093
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 1: seven yards and three touchdowns. But the Chargers they will

1094
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 1: not be in the playoffs. Even after at ten win

1095
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: over the pathetic Raiders on Sunday at the stub Toe

1096
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: that was filled with Raiders fans didn't matter this This

1097
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: Raiders team just could not do anything this season. Mark

1098
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: The Chargers didn't charger gonna Chargers. No, they didn't charge me.

1099
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: They got the job done in week seventeen. But the

1100
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: football gods they didn't want to throw them a bone.

1101
00:56:40,239 --> 00:56:42,759
Speaker 1: And that's it. It would be easier to take had

1102
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 1: this Chargers win been incredibly uninspiring or had they just lost,

1103
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: because it would if you know what we we thought

1104
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: they might not be a playoff caliber team after that

1105
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: Chief's loss, and and they proved us, proved to us

1106
00:56:55,880 --> 00:57:00,320
Speaker 1: that they weren't Chargers. Watching this game. This is a

1107
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:02,479
Speaker 1: playoff team when they play the way they did today.

1108
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers was absolutely in the zone. The downfield passing

1109
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: game was on fire. Melvin Gordon, who we didn't even

1110
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,560
Speaker 1: know if would play in this game, look fine. I

1111
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:14,279
Speaker 1: mean the defense absolutely after a great early touchdown throw

1112
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 1: by Derek Carr, controlled that offense. It's just it's it

1113
00:57:18,040 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: is a pity for all the good stuff, for the

1114
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: Bills fans and the Titans fans and all that business,

1115
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: that we are losing a team that I think, on

1116
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,600
Speaker 1: the on the right day could beat anyone in the

1117
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: a f C. Well, there nine and three the last

1118
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: twelve weeks. That says a lot, right. They're nine and

1119
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: three type of team. They started owing four and that's

1120
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000
Speaker 1: so hard when you do something like that. It's what.

1121
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: There's one team that's done it, that's made the playoffs,

1122
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: and the Chargers came close. They couldn't do it years ago.

1123
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 1: It was the Chargers. Uh so, yeah, that's that's how

1124
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: it is. The Chargers are done, the Raiders are done,

1125
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 1: and Jack del Rio is done. And Jack del Rio

1126
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: broke some news on him on himself. Let's hear what

1127
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: del Rio said during his postgame pressor. Uh. Spoke with

1128
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: Mark Davis after the game, and Marco me know that

1129
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 1: he's not going to be bringing me back and so

1130
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:08,000
Speaker 1: um he told me loved me and appreciate it all

1131
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,560
Speaker 1: that I did to to, you know, to kind of

1132
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: get this program going the right direction. Blackjack del Rio

1133
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 1: had a great season last year and you would think

1134
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 1: he was a part of the future. So why would

1135
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: they dump him after one bad year? Well, they have

1136
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: to have something lined up. ESPN is Adam Schefter reported

1137
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: on Sunday night that John Gruden will be the next

1138
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,720
Speaker 1: head coach of the Raiders. Will see if that happens,

1139
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: but it makes sense connecting the dots, uh, moving del

1140
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Rio out of the way for Gruden, and it's gonna

1141
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: cost him a lot of us. I think that this

1142
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: was the only way del Rio was gone, was it

1143
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: if they could get Gruden? And they did it by

1144
00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:48,160
Speaker 1: offering the holy grail of coaching a percentage of ownership.

1145
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna drag a guy like Gruden out of

1146
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360
Speaker 1: the booth after a season in which frankly he wasn't

1147
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: a very good broadcaster and refused to criticize people because

1148
00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 1: he maybe because he was gonna end up back on

1149
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: this settle. Well, yeah, we'll dive into the whole Gruden story.

1150
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm sure throughout the next few episodes they have to

1151
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,520
Speaker 1: do that. They have to satisfy the Rooney rule. If

1152
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: he does get a stake of ownership that has to

1153
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:15,360
Speaker 1: be voted on, it all should happen. I think it's exciting.

1154
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,520
Speaker 1: I get why Mark Davis would do it because maybe

1155
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: right or wrong, nothing I would Raiders fans tell me

1156
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: if this is untrue, but I would think nothing could

1157
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: get Raiders fans more excited heading into a very strange

1158
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: time in their organization's history, with the move to Las

1159
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: Vegas coming than higher than bringing back John Gruden from

1160
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: the glory days when he was last there. I think

1161
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:40,840
Speaker 1: it's a fun higher and I don't know if it

1162
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 1: will work, but it's fun. Derek, I don't care if

1163
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:44,400
Speaker 1: it works. Dark Carr had a bad season and we

1164
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: don't know if he was healthy, but get rooted in

1165
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,280
Speaker 1: there and see if he can work some magical It

1166
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: gives them again a lot of juice heading into the

1167
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,000
Speaker 1: next season. But they had a lot of juice heading

1168
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: into this season and nothing came of it. But it

1169
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 1: looks like Gruden's taken over. When there are whispers that

1170
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:01,959
Speaker 1: Gruden I would like to put old Jets, Oh see

1171
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:04,520
Speaker 1: John Morton away from New York. I don't want that.

1172
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: It really it really shows, uh what a year to

1173
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 1: year league this is, because going into the playoff, you know,

1174
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 1: with a couple of weeks left of last season, they're

1175
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: they're considered a super Bowl team. Derek Carr breaks his leg,

1176
01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: you suddenly got Matt mclogan in a playoff game, and

1177
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:24,080
Speaker 1: now you're coaches and both coordinators are all blown out.

1178
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:26,400
Speaker 1: I believe it happened on Christmas Eve last year when

1179
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: Derek Carr broke his leg. Look how much has changed

1180
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,959
Speaker 1: around the Raiders since then. Uh, let's move on. It'll

1181
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 1: be a forty eight yard field goal attempt. Here it

1182
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: is Claire Walsh, He's got the leg, it's up. It

1183
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: is no good. It is no good. Why do the

1184
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,760
Speaker 1: right and Matt might be the story of the season.

1185
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: Steve rabel k I r O with the call. Yes,

1186
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: Blair Walsh could not make a forty eight yard attempt

1187
01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: with thirty seconds thirty two seconds to play. Santal's gotta

1188
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: do better than Blair Walsh. And Phil Dawson on the

1189
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: other side, kicked four field goals, including one with about

1190
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: two minutes to play that put the Cardinals ahead for good.

1191
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: Final Cardinals over the Seahawks and what maybe Bruce arians

1192
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 1: final game on the sideline, if so, beating the Seahawks

1193
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: on the road, that's a nice way to go out with. Yeah,

1194
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: they they got dominated in the second half of this game,

1195
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 1: but they turned the tables and dominated the first half

1196
01:01:31,120 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 1: enough to win with just a couple of second half

1197
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: field goals in this game. And Bruce Arians said after

1198
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: the game, is harder to walk away when you win

1199
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: three of your last four. I don't I don't know

1200
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: what he's going to do, but it seems like he's

1201
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 1: he's truly indecisive right now. He's got the Hamlet routine

1202
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,840
Speaker 1: going on. Maybe he doesn't know if he wants to

1203
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,920
Speaker 1: walk away or not. I think I think he was

1204
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 1: very emotional too. I don't know what that means. Well,

1205
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:57,200
Speaker 1: he considers the Clink his home field for some reasons.

1206
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: That was his first quote to the media. Thank you

1207
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: for coming to my house. I hope you get home safe,

1208
01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:05,200
Speaker 1: he said. I love it. He's just sticking it in

1209
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 1: Seattle's eye. What is it, We'll hear it. Let's hear

1210
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,240
Speaker 1: Arias with that lug, thank you for coming to my house.

1211
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 1: We should mention that the Seahawks offensive troubles. I don't

1212
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: know how many weeks a row they can go without

1213
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 1: crossing midfield until a third quarter. Their offensive line is

1214
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 1: a mess. They have no running game, and over the

1215
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: past three weeks entering this game, they were dead last

1216
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:36,040
Speaker 1: in the NFL and offense behind t J. Yates Texans,

1217
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 1: behind Bryce Petty's Jets. It was the Seahawks who were

1218
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: last in the NFL. They've got to overhaul that offensive line,

1219
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,440
Speaker 1: find a running back. And this is in an off

1220
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,840
Speaker 1: season in which Mike Silver has already reported the legion

1221
01:02:48,880 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: of Boom defense is gonna look a lot different. Michael

1222
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: Bennett's that after the game he doesn't know if he

1223
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: expects to be back, whether he'll be wanted back. I mean,

1224
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:59,040
Speaker 1: the Seahawks defense as we know it is gonna get

1225
01:02:59,080 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: blown up. See what they do on offense. We're hearing

1226
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: that there's been reports that Tom Cable might have head

1227
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 1: coaching higher. I mean, I need that for a couple

1228
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: of years. I need I need his agent they should

1229
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:12,600
Speaker 1: think pretty strong. I think about changing the offensive system,

1230
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 1: whether it's Cable or Darryl Bevel Russell Wilson's never had

1231
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: another head coach, and I think when you see the

1232
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,440
Speaker 1: same price, you have such a talented player and you

1233
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:24,919
Speaker 1: see the same problems year after year. If assuming Pete

1234
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: Carroll Stain, you gotta think that he has to consider

1235
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 1: making a change there. Carol made it pretty clear that

1236
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 1: he's not thought once about retire. Right he's the oldest

1237
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,200
Speaker 1: coach in the league. He doesn't find he doesn't feel

1238
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 1: that he's old, and he wants to continue on. I'd

1239
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: be surprised if he's gone by this. This is a

1240
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 1: big off season for Seattle. Uh, let's go away for

1241
01:03:42,200 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: Arians to go out. Though I love if that's it

1242
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: winning in Seattle with Drew Stanton, it doesn't get any

1243
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: Arians and that if it was the Marvin Lewis route,

1244
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 1: We're knocking out the Seahawks in the playoffs. But still

1245
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: Arians had actually committed to find a younger quarterback to

1246
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: draft other than Drew Stanton. Sorry, I'm going to throw

1247
01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: that out there. It's this guy. They can compete next

1248
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: year if everybody comes back. Their defense was phenomenal in

1249
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:08,120
Speaker 1: the second half of the season. Let's move up Daniels

1250
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,680
Speaker 1: and Matthews looking to put pressure on Stafford. Gels gotta

1251
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,560
Speaker 1: complete to God today gets side the thirty inside the

1252
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,000
Speaker 1: God of the angle, idiot. So through the house touch

1253
01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:22,560
Speaker 1: down Detroit Lions, Matthew Stafford through three touchdowns. The Lions

1254
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:27,000
Speaker 1: beat up on the Packers, who stink thirty five to eleven. Uh.

1255
01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: This represented the end of an era for the Packers,

1256
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 1: who are reportedly set to cut ties with defensive coordinator

1257
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:36,640
Speaker 1: Dom Capers after nine seasons teflon Dom, no more Greg.

1258
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 1: Anything else to take away from this game? This game

1259
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 1: actually happened. This game happened. Matthew Stafford hitting bombs down

1260
01:04:44,240 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 1: the field like three players over fifty yards. I hope

1261
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:49,840
Speaker 1: it's not the end of the Jim, Bob Coooner and

1262
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford experiment, but it sounds like it will be

1263
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 1: the end of Jim Caldwell's uh time in Detroit. I

1264
01:04:56,680 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 1: think by the time we do a show again, he

1265
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: will no longer be the coach. Poor Jimmy. Let's move

1266
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:05,200
Speaker 1: on certain seven snap the Prescott over the middle, slant

1267
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: talk that to turn. That'll be a walk in touchdown

1268
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: for Bryce Butler. DRK Prescott tossed a twenty yard touchdown

1269
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: past the Bryce Butler early in the fourth quarter, and

1270
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: the Nick Foles led Eagles cannot do a thing on offense.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys win six nothing in Philly. Some people say

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Speaker 1: six zero, but that always sounds weird to me. Technically nil.

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Speaker 1: The Cowboys finished nine and seven. Their season is over.

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Speaker 1: The Eagles finished thirteen and three with the top seed

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But who believes in this team right now?

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01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 1: Do us? Now? The best part about this game was

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01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,479
Speaker 1: the punter taking off his extra pair of pants before.

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01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: This is a brutal game to watch. Nick Fools has

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01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 1: been awful for five quarters. He looks skittish, he looks

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01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: afraid in the pocket. His accuracy is is hit and

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01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 1: miss at best. He is a deliberate passer. He's a

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01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 1: statue in the pocket, and what we've seen over the

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01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,720
Speaker 1: last few years in the NFL, that brand of quarterback

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01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: no longer works. The statue who can't move well in

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01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: the pocket and it's not an accurate passer. I think

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01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,680
Speaker 1: the Eagles have a major quarterback problem entering the postseason.

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: They keep cutting up to at least in the last

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: game to Carson Wentz staring down at what he's watching

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01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,000
Speaker 1: unfolding on the field with a pained look on his face,

1290
01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: because everything that he could do that made this offense

1291
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: special is utterly absent with with Nick Foles on the field,

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 1: and the Cowboys offense didn't suddenly turn it around when

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01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott came back anyways, and they struggled to move

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01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: the ball against this Eagles team. But if you're a

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01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 1: Saints fan right now, even though they haven't looked great

1296
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: down the stretch, you're thinking, if if the Rams do

1297
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: handle their business in on Saturday and the Saints win suddenly,

1298
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: even though the Saints have struggled a little bit, like

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01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: the Saints have a pretty good path with the struggling

1300
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,800
Speaker 1: Panthers team and possibly the Eagles uh to win a

1301
01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: couple of rounds in this playoffs, and you're feeling great

1302
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: if you're a Vikings fan or you're on the Vikings.

1303
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: You got the two seed, but a lot of people

1304
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: think this is a one and done Eagles team. Will

1305
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 1: see if it plays out that way, but they are

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01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:06,440
Speaker 1: staring potentially at home field advantage throughout the NFC if

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01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:08,840
Speaker 1: they can advance out of their first game, We'll see

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01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:12,560
Speaker 1: how it all plays out. Final game of weeks seventeen

1309
01:07:12,560 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about involves Jimmy to god second own

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01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: a three from the eight under center. Garoppolo fakes it

1311
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 1: to high, fake de end around to go, but now

1312
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: throws a pass out of the flag the good one

1313
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:25,560
Speaker 1: who's got it, and he goes in for a touchdown.

1314
01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: You want to play design? What a gorgeous freake? Who

1315
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: Goodwin ran from the right side. He curled back into

1316
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 1: the backfield like it was gonna be reversed, then he

1317
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: wheeled back down the right side. It was wide open

1318
01:07:37,480 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 1: for the touchdown. Ted Robinson k s a n with

1319
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: the call. Jimmy Garoppolo through for two two and two touchdowns.

1320
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: The forty Niners and their season on a five game

1321
01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: winning streak at thirteen win against the Rams, who sat

1322
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,840
Speaker 1: many of their key players but still ended up with

1323
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,720
Speaker 1: the number three seed in the NFC because of that

1324
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: Saints loss. Everyone won at the Coliseum Sunday, Mark, we

1325
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: should mention, well day disagree. I'll tell you why I

1326
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: think that I can't find two teams that played each

1327
01:08:09,440 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 1: other today where you have both clubs win or lose

1328
01:08:13,400 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: with more hope going on too. If you're the Rams

1329
01:08:16,439 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: into next week or if you're the Niners into the

1330
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,360
Speaker 1: off season. I'm just saying you might have spent a

1331
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: lot of money. There's only six or seven home games

1332
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,000
Speaker 1: for the Rams this year, and you watch and cheap,

1333
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:29,160
Speaker 1: you get Sean Manny and get you know by that's all.

1334
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,520
Speaker 1: He's making a point. That's not sure it was thee

1335
01:08:33,640 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: from this game, but fair enough, what is the A

1336
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: story I would have loved to see. I know the

1337
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,519
Speaker 1: Rams were going to do this. I would have loved

1338
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 1: to have seen, even for a half Jimmy G dual

1339
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,720
Speaker 1: a full strength Rams team and we'll see it next year. Yeah,

1340
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 1: that's something to it is, but I think it's another.

1341
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: It was a solid Jimmy G through two picks on

1342
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 1: sort of downfield ropes that I don't know. He always

1343
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,120
Speaker 1: makes up for his mistakes. And I know people think

1344
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: that we're probably I hearing on Twitter, you guys need

1345
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: to calm down on Jimmy G. I don't need to

1346
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,960
Speaker 1: calm down on people. Don't take a hike. He's doing

1347
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,000
Speaker 1: stuff that makes you know of quarterbacks in the league

1348
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 1: looking furious, and there's no there's no rule that says

1349
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,920
Speaker 1: just because you're playing against some backups, you're gonna score

1350
01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:17,320
Speaker 1: thirty plus points. Look at the Eagles, look at the Cowboys,

1351
01:09:17,520 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: look at the Chiefs, like you know, it's they They

1352
01:09:20,400 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 1: did what you want to see when you play a

1353
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,639
Speaker 1: bunch of backups. They looked great. Hey, Peanut Gallery, Jimmy

1354
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:28,960
Speaker 1: G is five and oh in have a plus fifty

1355
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:32,800
Speaker 1: five point differential in those games. They were one in

1356
01:09:32,920 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 1: ten with a minus one oh four point differential before

1357
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:40,400
Speaker 1: he came in. And that's why, that's why he's locking

1358
01:09:40,439 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 1: it up. That's why quarterbacks dominate the m v P race.

1359
01:09:43,360 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: That's because they are the most valuable player and they

1360
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:50,680
Speaker 1: literally transformed teams. And how about this Peanut Gallery. Uh,

1361
01:09:50,920 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots traded away at twenty seven year

1362
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: dynasty and I'm happy about that. So how about that

1363
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:59,680
Speaker 1: Peanut Gallery. Not a good off season for the Patriots.

1364
01:10:00,400 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: Got nothing out of their draft class. They they sold low,

1365
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: umberset and Jimmy G Stephon Gilmore was pretty disappointing. They

1366
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: didn't do much. It's crazy how many things went wrong

1367
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,000
Speaker 1: and how many holes they have on their team. And

1368
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 1: they went thirteen and three. I'm not like trying to

1369
01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: sound like a Throne of East thing like they it's

1370
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 1: true that they're not even that great a Patriots team,

1371
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 1: and they still found a way to You know who

1372
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: would be annoyed? What Game of Thrones author George RR. Martin,

1373
01:10:24,479 --> 01:10:27,080
Speaker 1: who was a Jets fan who Dana spent the podcast destroying.

1374
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 1: But you know how many dragons fellow Jets fans. He's

1375
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: also a Giants fan. It's it's like a weird thing Patriots.

1376
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: Other people that can pipe down our Patriots fans moaning

1377
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 1: about trading Jimmy g They literally had had to trade

1378
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: him because they won too many Super Bowls and their

1379
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: quarterback one too many m v p s. While like

1380
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,040
Speaker 1: sorry that you had the longest dominant stretch in NFL

1381
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: history was not going away. It's gonna get loud and

1382
01:10:54,040 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 1: now all right, there you go. That's week seventeen. Lindsay,

1383
01:10:57,880 --> 01:11:00,160
Speaker 1: can you come in for a second. Can you make

1384
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:07,320
Speaker 1: good delivery? All right? Zick us the end of two thousand. Wow,

1385
01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: here we go. We got the good in walking in

1386
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,920
Speaker 1: with not corpbell. This is this is domb that's an

1387
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: audio medium. I'm all about your inspiraency. You're all about

1388
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:24,880
Speaker 1: creating fictions. It's just it's about a show. It's all

1389
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,960
Speaker 1: about the show. Watch for that cork goes please, This

1390
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:31,920
Speaker 1: is um a challenger makes you host? Yeah, Westy is

1391
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:36,320
Speaker 1: his orange gatorade. Thank you, Lindsay, good delivery. Um, we

1392
01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 1: have five glasses here, a lot to celebrate here, West

1393
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:48,280
Speaker 1: don't display with beating cancer. I'm gonna pop this. Everybody's shield. Well,

1394
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: don't don't give me the cork at Greg? Why don't

1395
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 1: you just do it in your hand? That naked shocker.

1396
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 1: So the payne has spilled outsidely over the entire podcast studio.

1397
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,799
Speaker 1: We might need a paper towel real quickly, but we're okay.

1398
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,960
Speaker 1: Got it on some of the equipment here. But if

1399
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:15,400
Speaker 1: the show doesn't end, you'll know why you just messed up.

1400
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: Damnag x crumbs. There we go, pouring the champagne. Everything's okay?

1401
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: Is that is Greg's head sets? Little work. Let's go

1402
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 1: with it. More aggressive poor than n okay. This has

1403
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: been a interesting two thousand seventeen. West of course, thank

1404
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:35,920
Speaker 1: you battling the big say Lindsay joining us, and how

1405
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:40,400
Speaker 1: great has that been? Dan battling unlesser Sea, which has

1406
01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,680
Speaker 1: been a crueling fight for you the little see they

1407
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: call it. Now we're passing on, all right. Everybody got

1408
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,840
Speaker 1: the champagne. So a toast and a toast too, huh

1409
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: to the listeners, because we literally could not do it

1410
01:12:56,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: without you. Uh, and you guys are amazing. And a

1411
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: toast of West's health in two thousand and good times

1412
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:13,679
Speaker 1: in the studio going forward. Cheers. That's a good stuff.

1413
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: That's what a seven dollar bottle right out of the

1414
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:21,680
Speaker 1: league budget. They'll discover that around mid March. Alright, transaction.

1415
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: That's it for the another year of the Around the

1416
01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:26,760
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Next time you hear from us, it will

1417
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: be on the other side. Um of another year. We're

1418
01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: and Mark, Mark. This is the end of our eighth

1419
01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,960
Speaker 1: regular season together. We've been here a long time, Yes

1420
01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,680
Speaker 1: we have. We haven't killed each other. Yeah, that's good.

1421
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: I think we're built to make it. Mark coming up soon.

1422
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: We're built to last. We will kill each other show

1423
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: and uh, same for the Kill each Other podcast before

1424
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 1: we go. Um uh, someone else doing great things. As

1425
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 1: we looked at two thousand eighteen, law Sid, the Great

1426
01:13:54,479 --> 01:13:57,719
Speaker 1: law Sid. We all got a great surprise on Twitter

1427
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:01,160
Speaker 1: this weekend, law Sid sung the national anthem at a

1428
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,680
Speaker 1: b y U basketball game. Looked like there was like

1429
01:14:03,880 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 1: thousands of people there. And because she's she's a pretty

1430
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: good singer. I think I think she's a really good singer.

1431
01:14:09,560 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Did we not leverage that enough? We were remissed. I

1432
01:14:12,920 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 1: was singing a lot when Lindsay was behind the glass.

1433
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,720
Speaker 1: But I'm also a pretty amazing singer. They just have

1434
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: not called me to do a national anthem. Your version

1435
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,080
Speaker 1: of Kim top the charts in several countries, But Lindsay,

1436
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:26,280
Speaker 1: We're proud of Lindsay. Uh, excuse me. We're proud of

1437
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 1: Lassid who has been amazing and Lindsay a one woman

1438
01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:33,400
Speaker 1: mount rushmore so, ending our final show, seen will throw

1439
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: it to um law Sid's rendition of the star spangled banner.

1440
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: Thank you to everybody, uh for listening and until take

1441
01:14:43,680 --> 01:15:04,880
Speaker 1: it away, Las Sid at John's sly Lie, what's so

1442
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: proudly at the twice you that spread dream whose broad

1443
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: stripes and bright stars through the spine or the red

1444
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 1: parts we watch or so gadually streaming and gets the

1445
01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 1: bursting give fro through the night that our flat worse

1446
01:15:51,200 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: still there? Oh see do star spinle that the wind

1447
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 1: or the land to the and the the brain last

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:29,320
Speaker 1: happy do here