WEBVTT - Puff Daddy Tried Me Too 0:00:00.840 --> 0:00:02.040 But all right, job. 0:00:03.640 --> 0:00:08.080 All across the USC Compton watch Bay to La, come 0:00:08.119 --> 0:00:11.400 on to California day, come out in the valley. We 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.680 represent that Keller County. So if you're keeping it real 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:17.520 on your side of your town, you tune into Gainst 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:20.920 the Chronicles Chronic Goals. 0:00:21.079 --> 0:00:23.160 We gonna tell you how we goal. 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:26.320 If I lie, my nose will girl like Pinocchio. 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:30.080 We're gonna tell you the truth and nothing but the truths. 0:00:29.200 --> 0:00:32.879 The chronic goals. This is not your average shows. 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:37.160 You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:40.200 and Big Steals the streets. 0:00:40.560 --> 0:00:49.040 Hello, Welcome to the Gainst the Chronicles podcast, the production 0:00:49.120 --> 0:00:52.400 of iHeart Radio and Black Effect Podcast Network. Make sure 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:55.400 you download the iHeart app and subscribe to Against the Chronicles. 0:00:55.560 --> 0:00:58.240 For my Apple users, hit the Purple Michael your front screen, 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:01.240 subscribed Against the Chronicles, leave a start reading the comment. 0:01:01.720 --> 0:01:04.160 We like to welcome every one to another episode the 0:01:04.200 --> 0:01:07.040 Gangst the Chronicles Podcast. My name is Big Steal along 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.880 with my homeboy. Yeah, and you know, A we don't 0:01:10.920 --> 0:01:12.320 have a lot of people up in here, man. We 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:15.000 don't ask legendary people man. But tonight we got some 0:01:15.120 --> 0:01:18.000 West Coast rowty up in here, they kind of come out, 0:01:18.040 --> 0:01:20.600 you know, I know Coco is definitely from your class. 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.200 Tony Aight came next. We got the legendary Tonier, the Wizard, 0:01:26.760 --> 0:01:32.000 legendary DJ and the homeboy legendary, the most featured man 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:36.960 in the hip hop you know, mister Jerry Long aka Cocaine. 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:37.840 What's cracking homies? 0:01:38.160 --> 0:01:40.480 Jelly right here, my brother, Thank you first and foremost 0:01:40.480 --> 0:01:43.560 for the invite. Thank you, Thank you a appreciate it. 0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:45.280 Oh for sure. Man, We've been meeting to get you 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.680 on here a long time. And Coco was like a 0:01:47.680 --> 0:01:49.880 friend to show. You know, he got like a card, 0:01:49.880 --> 0:01:51.920 He got the little Gainst the Chronicle card in his 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:54.080 wallet that he carried around with him. He just you know, 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:57.680 pop pull in, pull up all the time. You know, 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:00.240 I want to I always wanted to ask to a 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:04.200 question man, with California's climate being what it deals with 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:06.720 the black and brown, you know it's getting a lot better. Yeah, No, 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.840 it's got definitely better over the years. Prison politics often 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:14.160 influenced the streets. Yeah, and I don't think nobody ever 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.440 gives you and Crawford, I see props for what y'all 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:20.960 pulled off, especially in that time period. Yeah, you know, 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:22.880 you and I got together and put out, you know, 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:24.480 a legendary street album. Man. 0:02:24.720 --> 0:02:28.160 Yeah, yeah, well you know, first and foremost. Let me 0:02:28.240 --> 0:02:30.240 just cannot you mind if I share how I met Crawford? 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:30.920 Yeah, for sure. 0:02:31.040 --> 0:02:33.200 Well, Crawford was probably about sixteen years old. He was 0:02:33.240 --> 0:02:36.280 still going to Centennial High School. And for people that 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.560 may not know, I started doing mixtapes for Steve Janno 0:02:38.560 --> 0:02:41.280 a Theorodium nineteen eighty seven to nineteen ninety one, and 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:46.440 on those tapes featured Dre, cub Easy, Jjfad Tone Low, Young, MC, high, C, 0:02:46.600 --> 0:02:49.519 DJ Quick, AMG, Second to None, et cetera. I must 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.280 have did maybe about thirty of those mixtapes back then. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.359 And what happened was Drey and then we're getting ready 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:58.120 to go on tour and Jerrea told me I'm not 0:02:58.120 --> 0:03:00.320 gonna be able to wrap those mixtapes anymore. You're gonna 0:03:00.320 --> 0:03:02.440 have to get somebody else. I was like, all right, cool, so, 0:03:02.480 --> 0:03:04.680 and then Steve Biano tells me, hey, man, there's a 0:03:04.680 --> 0:03:08.399 blood way in the back. He's from Treetop Piru. He's 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.320 a youngster. You know, maybe you might want to talk 0:03:10.320 --> 0:03:12.080 to him. He's got a kind of an easy e voice. 0:03:12.240 --> 0:03:14.200 I said, all right, cool, went over there and met 0:03:14.240 --> 0:03:17.280 him and we hit it off. Everything was good, man, 0:03:17.360 --> 0:03:20.320 you know, to speak things along. He came over to 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:22.040 my house and he rapped, and I'll be honest when 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.640 I told him this, I didn't think he was that 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.480 good of a rapper at sixteen years old. But here's 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:30.359 what won me over. He calls me up and he goes, hey, man, 0:03:30.360 --> 0:03:32.119 I'm performing at my school centennial. 0:03:32.720 --> 0:03:34.040 Would you come and spin for me? 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:36.720 And I said, yeah, okay, I took my turntables. And 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.680 what I really really liked about him was at sixteen 0:03:39.720 --> 0:03:41.400 years old, how he engaged with the crowd. 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.320 Yeah, he got hello, he got Hella showmans. Yeah. 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:46.160 So at that time, that's pretty much what I said, 0:03:46.200 --> 0:03:48.720 Like I told Steve, just get him on a mixtape. 0:03:49.120 --> 0:03:53.520 So you know, I will say this to address your question. 0:03:54.200 --> 0:03:56.760 I grew up in Wilmington. When my family first came 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.720 for a Mexico, we moved to Compton and I was 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:02.440 there I was about nine years old. Then from there 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:05.920 we moved to Wimington, which I still live. Wimington was 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:09.040 blacks and Mexicans. You know, on the west side, you 0:04:09.080 --> 0:04:12.040 had water from Piru. On the east side, you had 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:15.400 Eastside pain Bloods or Bloods, and then you had east 0:04:15.400 --> 0:04:19.480 Side weemss west Side with weil Mosk Okay. And to 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:20.760 be honest with you, I think a lot of people are 0:04:20.760 --> 0:04:24.360 going to trip that growing up, I had more black 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:27.159 friends than I did Mexican friends. Okay, you know, so 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:29.039 to me that was never an issue. 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.040 Was that because of the music and hip hop? 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.640 I think it was the hip hop culture absolutely. A 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.000 lot of people may not know that. Michael Chambers, who's 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.240 known as Boola Shrimp or Turbo, was from the Eastie 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.919 of Wimington, Okay, and he was one year older than me, 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:49.960 so he actually taught me how to pop. So I 0:04:50.040 --> 0:04:53.400 hung around with him for a while and from there 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:55.679 I was about fifteen years old when I met DJ 0:04:55.760 --> 0:04:58.760 Joe Cooley from Compton. He taught me how to spend. 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:02.160 He was pretty much my men. Soon after that, Steve 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:05.400 Bano introduced me to Dre Okay and then eventually I 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:09.120 get introduced by Crawford high See to DJ Quick. So 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:12.480 that's really like my school right there. But I will 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:15.000 say this that being Mexican, I got a lot of 0:05:15.040 --> 0:05:19.320 shit for hanging around blacks and I never never understood that. 0:05:19.520 --> 0:05:22.720 You know, one of my brothers married to blacks. I 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.080 got black in my family, I got white in my family. 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:26.760 I got Filipino Vietnamese. 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:27.359 You know so. 0:05:27.800 --> 0:05:30.880 And I'm glad that God allowed the rainbow colors in 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:34.680 my family, you know, saying so. But as far as 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.760 that is concerned, I always got a lot of shit 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:39.640 because while you're over there fucking with the blacks, why 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:42.280 don't you help Rasa? And I was always straight up. 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:45.120 I always said, look, bro, when I meet RASA that 0:05:45.120 --> 0:05:46.680 can rap, then I'll fuck with them. 0:05:47.960 --> 0:05:51.920 That was it, Oh wow, man, because yeah, we sul 0:05:52.000 --> 0:05:52.760 just stay goga. 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:53.919 Now just listen. 0:05:54.160 --> 0:05:58.960 So at the time when you started spinning and rap, 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:03.600 there were no nobody was interested as far as trying 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:05.520 to get in the hip hop. You think that was 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:08.000 it as far as the Mexican. 0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:11.200 Side, Okay, Frost, I know he had a song called 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:13.479 rough Cuts. I think that was like an eighty eight 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.920 kid bro. Then he had another song called Terminator. He 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.160 didn't drop La Raassaun til nineteen ninety. Around eighty nine ninety, 0:06:20.200 --> 0:06:23.400 there was another rap group that they were called Spanish Fly. 0:06:23.800 --> 0:06:28.839 I remember, yeah, Esse Rich Rock, DJ Tricks and Dazz, 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.320 and I was working with Esse rich Rock, but when 0:06:33.360 --> 0:06:35.360 he got with the group, I pretty much just left 0:06:35.440 --> 0:06:37.960 him alone. It was either going to be High See 0:06:38.200 --> 0:06:41.600 or ss rich Rock rapping on my mixtapes, And when 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.200 he got with the group, I just left them alone 0:06:43.200 --> 0:06:45.480 and I started, you know, miss around with High Sea. 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.520 Other than that, I didn't really know too many other 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:54.440 Chicano rappers that wanted to rap, you know. So everybody 0:06:54.480 --> 0:06:56.599 that I was working with what happened to be black, 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.600 and I didn't have an issue with that. But even today, 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.920 though today, I still get a lot of shit on 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.080 my podcast because people still say all you wanted to 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.479 do was fuck with those blacks and you never wanted 0:07:08.480 --> 0:07:11.160 to help our people out. Well, there was none of 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.800 our people rapping, you know. And when I started working 0:07:14.840 --> 0:07:18.400 with black artists, I got paid in the late nineties, 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:21.360 when I started working with Rosa rappers, they weren't paying me. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.400 And then at the end of the day, it is 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:28.840 a business men, like you said, during that time period, 0:07:28.880 --> 0:07:31.320 it's not like it was an overabundance. I don't even 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:34.000 think Chicano rap but they called Chicano rap was around 0:07:34.080 --> 0:07:37.520 yet that didn't exist. Shit that hadn't been created, right, 0:07:37.840 --> 0:07:42.200 you know, you had kid Frost. I would see Mellow mayonaise. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:43.320 That was a little bit later on. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.480 They actually dropped the same year, nineteen ninety. 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.640 Yeah, yeah, you had Mellow mayn a. So it wasn't 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.160 It wasn't like it was a whole bunch of people 0:07:50.600 --> 0:07:52.880 because I heard the Spanish fly because I had a 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:55.600 record store and it was a cat named Murray Brumfield. Yes, 0:07:55.960 --> 0:07:58.480 that he had kind of like he had really kicked 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:00.480 off the Chicano rap stuff. And a lot of people 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.480 don't know Mary Bromfield was a black guy. There was 0:08:03.480 --> 0:08:06.160 a teacher at Norwalk High School that was one of 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:09.040 the founding people. I don't want to give no misinformation 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.560 as far as from what I know me being a retailer, 0:08:11.840 --> 0:08:14.320 I didn't see no other like Chicano rap. I knew 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:16.440 the kids from the high school and started coming to 0:08:16.480 --> 0:08:18.320 the store and asked for it, and that's when I 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:20.760 said they may have something. So when Mary Bromfield walked 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:23.160 them off store, I was like, you know what, I 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:25.160 don't know who none of these people is, but hell yeah, 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.480 because I got people asking for this, they starting to 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:31.160 ask for us. So it was definitely a grass roots movement, 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.240 and we got some ogs in here tonight because Coco, 0:08:35.320 --> 0:08:38.480 you pretty much got started around the same time. But 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.680 you were out in the Mona right right you start. 0:08:41.760 --> 0:08:44.400 I started my career in eighty four. 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:47.360 Eighty four, So you so you perceived everybody up here, 0:08:47.400 --> 0:08:50.120 what you know, everybody as far as so you was 0:08:50.200 --> 0:08:51.079 on in eighty. 0:08:50.800 --> 0:08:54.120 Four, Well, coming from my dad and coming from. 0:08:54.040 --> 0:08:55.960 Uncle, well, yeah, that's right. You had a history, you know, 0:08:56.080 --> 0:08:56.839 and I. 0:08:56.880 --> 0:09:00.599 Was already we had to cheat cod but eight was 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:06.840 around the time. And then prior to signing with Easy, 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.199 our person was gonna sign with Bobcat. 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:11.800 That's I was gonna say, DJ Bobcat yep. 0:09:12.559 --> 0:09:16.120 And nineteen eighty six and eighty seven I was with 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:19.000 my uncle Willie Hutch's label, but that didn't work out 0:09:19.080 --> 0:09:21.800 because you know, they had a certain style and they 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.760 didn't like all that custody and all that shit. So 0:09:25.360 --> 0:09:28.960 it really started back in nineteen eighty four years ago, 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:30.840 I mean interject I met him. 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:33.280 I believe it was nineteen eighty eight. One of the 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:35.520 times that when later you came up with laid out 0:09:35.520 --> 0:09:36.400 to audio achievements. 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:38.760 Yeah, and that's when I had met him. Yeah, you 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:44.240 mentioned audio achievements with Dnavan Dirt Biker Smith, they did 0:09:44.320 --> 0:09:47.320 all the That was where NWA recorded all this stuff, right, 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:48.720 that was where Drake was at all time. 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.920 Yeah, out of in the Dirt Biker I think he's 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:52.600 rested in peace. 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.960 Then, Oh really, I haven't heard that. But you know what, 0:09:56.120 --> 0:09:58.960 me and Hunty recorded half our album there. Yeah, so 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.480 we had a great time man, like you know, Dre. 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:03.480 Each of them would leave and then we were going 0:10:03.600 --> 0:10:05.720 because we had to rint block time back then. So 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:09.000 but Donovan was giving us like seventy five dollars an hour, 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:10.719 but they had to be like ten hours. 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:12.520 So but it was a good deal though. 0:10:12.559 --> 0:10:14.079 We finished it and we got a good sound out 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:15.000 of that studio. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:19.480 Hell yeah, that's why couldn't everybody. 0:10:19.120 --> 0:10:23.080 The days of the big budgets and he budgets for videos. 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.080 You know what I say. He though. You know what 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:27.600 was good about that was that people had to be 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:30.800 serious about their craft. You couldn't just say I'm gonna 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.000 get it, go be a rapper, because there was an 0:10:33.120 --> 0:10:36.080 entry point. If you didn't have no producer of the 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:38.079 homie they had the four tracks in his garage or 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:40.360 the eight track. You had to kick it in some 0:10:40.400 --> 0:10:42.880 money and even then messing with the homies. In some 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:44.160 cases you had to kick you here some money. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.600 I started in the garage. 0:10:45.920 --> 0:10:48.640 I was just the same. We started from the garage. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:54.240 Tables and just making making tapes, just rapping over like 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.880 like they call mixtapes today. That's how we was doing 0:10:56.880 --> 0:10:59.960 it back then, rapping over niggas beats and just shit. 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.120 Yeah, it was a different area. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:03.960 That was the time where we used to you know, 0:11:04.720 --> 0:11:09.319 stop the tape, the tapes. 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.720 Paul's tapes, you know, that was that was That was an. 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:15.200 Experience though putting the Palls tapes. I'm gonna ask each 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:17.240 of you all the question. This includes you two eight 0:11:19.400 --> 0:11:21.920 when you first started doing this as a little kid man, 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:24.600 because everybody start with the same vision. You just fall 0:11:24.640 --> 0:11:26.960 in love. You ain't thinking about getting paid, You ain't 0:11:27.000 --> 0:11:28.520 thinking about none of that. You just like, I'm gonna 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:30.760 be an MC, I'm gonna rap, I'm gonna be a DJ. 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:33.400 Did you ever think that she would achieve the things 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.840 that you achieved? No, And I will tell you why. 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.559 You know, I started popping and I thought I was 0:11:39.600 --> 0:11:41.440 pretty good, and then breaking came in and I thought 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:42.880 I was pretty good, but I was just too damn 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:46.680 tall for breaking. So so when I started DJing was 0:11:46.760 --> 0:11:49.360 pretty much when I got introduced to when I saw 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:51.959 Joe Cooley spind back in the day and he was 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.280 spending less work, he was doing dual did he he 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.440 was doing and the be goes on by orbit he 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:58.480 was cutting it up. I knew that's what I wanted 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:01.080 to do at that moment, you know. And I actually 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:03.120 got really really good and never became a KD and 0:12:03.160 --> 0:12:05.760 mixed master. And now that i'm today that I'm close 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.400 to Tony G I tell him, like bro, I always 0:12:08.440 --> 0:12:10.640 wanted to be a KD and mixed master. I just 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.679 didn't know how to go about it, you know. But 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.199 to answer your question, Steve Iano, the the swamp me 0:12:17.280 --> 0:12:20.200 vender from the city of Whittier, the Japanese man, He's 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.360 the one that pretty much opened the door for me, 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:25.439 and I probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for him, 0:12:25.440 --> 0:12:28.679 because he knew everybody. He introduced me to Violet Brown 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.680 and a happy birchrut there because her birthday was yesterday. 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:33.880 Ye had the birthday Violet. For those that don't know, 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.800 Violet Brown was a pivotal piece. It's a pivotal piece 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:39.040 in West Coast history. She was the buyer for Warehouse 0:12:39.160 --> 0:12:42.920 Music and always had an open door policy with everybody. 0:12:43.120 --> 0:12:45.719 Yes, so he choose me to Herd, He choose me 0:12:45.760 --> 0:12:48.559 to Dre, Steven choose me to Easy Jinks. My very 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.280 first record that I read did scratching on was for 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:55.000 Jink's produced a record for a rapper named Dazzy D 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:58.560 and they were signed to Kelvin Anderson. Much love and 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.079 respect to him, the owner of VIP Records. So that 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:03.240 was in nineteen eighty seven and we recorded that at 0:13:03.280 --> 0:13:05.840 Echo Sound. That was the first first time I met 0:13:05.840 --> 0:13:09.280 Pool and I met King T the engineer there was 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:12.679 VOCHEK and that was my first record that I were 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.960 just scratching on. So I knew I was on my 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:18.600 way up because of Steve. He introduced me to everyone. 0:13:19.120 --> 0:13:21.480 And then when he bought me my first SP twelve hundred, 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.160 twelve hundred drum machine, I didn't know how to use it. 0:13:25.320 --> 0:13:27.480 The you know, the manual was like this big, like 0:13:27.520 --> 0:13:30.439 a damn phone book. And he just told me, I'll 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.600 take you to Dre's. And I was just like, you're 0:13:32.600 --> 0:13:33.439 gonna take me to Dre? 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:34.240 Now? 0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:35.880 I didn't know if Dre was it. Didn't really have 0:13:35.880 --> 0:13:38.200 no money at the time. We went to his apartment 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.200 in the Paramount. Michelle opens the door. I walked in 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:42.920 with my turntable. He was in a team out of 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.200 sample and he had nothing in his apartment. So I 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.720 asked him like, how long have you been living here? 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:49.760 And he said like six months? 0:13:49.840 --> 0:13:50.040 Why? 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.200 And I was like, okay, cause you don't even have 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.400 a table, and he goes, don't you put it on 0:13:54.440 --> 0:13:56.400 the floor. So he put it on the floor and 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:58.240 we both laid down and he was laying down next 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:00.280 to me. He was like, put the record here, here's 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:02.199 the volume. Here's like you sample. Here's like your trunk 0:14:02.240 --> 0:14:05.560 eat just has ten seconds, two point five seconds. 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:06.200 Pretty simple. 0:14:06.360 --> 0:14:08.199 You're gonna have to put that record on forty five, 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:11.880 then slow it down here, then record get your tempo 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.760 in there. And I have photographic memories. I was able 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.679 to remember everything. That's crazy. 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.320 So you learned how to program a SB twelve hundred, 0:14:19.360 --> 0:14:21.120 land on the floor in the apartment and pair a 0:14:21.120 --> 0:14:22.000 month with doctor Dre. 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:25.960 I learned how to program an NPC by just watching slip. 0:14:26.600 --> 0:14:26.840 Yeah. 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.360 I didn't read no manu or none of that shit. 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.440 That's how I kind of was just being around. 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:34.720 Just went and barked one one day and said, fock it, 0:14:35.360 --> 0:14:38.880 I don't FeelA, go for bro. That's how you teach yourself. Shit. 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:40.920 I learned some shit and I didn't want to do 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:41.320 that shit. 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:47.000 Yeah, Cooco, did you ever think you would axceieve or 0:14:47.000 --> 0:14:48.720 did you ever think you'd be the most featured nigga 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.840 and hip hop most featured man of hip hop? Nah? 0:14:50.840 --> 0:14:51.920 I wantn't take it like that. 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:53.040 You know. 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:56.400 I had to work because they wouldn't play my name 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.480 on the radio, you know, and it was kind of 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.680 tough for me, you know what I mean. But you know, 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.000 when Easy he passed, that was our lifeline to the game. 0:15:08.760 --> 0:15:11.360 And then all the assets got frozen and all that. 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.560 So nine times out of tien and I go to 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:18.560 the studio and for some reason, people might style and 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.400 it just kept going and snowballing, and. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:22.240 I just didn't stop. 0:15:23.000 --> 0:15:26.600 Then when I looked up you know wife, he had said, uh, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:28.240 you know how many features? 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:28.560 You know? 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.240 I said, Nah, I didn't think about that, he said, 0:15:32.400 --> 0:15:34.840 I said, now I'm thinking about that, right, You know 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:39.880 what I'm saying, Because you know, a list artists too, uh, 0:15:40.360 --> 0:15:45.800 major artists. I was always working, you know, the Chicanos, 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:48.640 you know, doing a lot of stuff with Chicano brothers 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.720 that you know, put food on the table, period, you 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:55.680 know what I mean. So I enjoyed doing what I'm doing. 0:15:56.120 --> 0:16:00.840 Sometimes it was good, sometimes it wasn't. But I love music, 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:04.400 you know what I'm saying. So I tell anybody it's 0:16:04.400 --> 0:16:05.120 cool then to. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:07.080 Make some snaps, but you got to love what you do. 0:16:07.120 --> 0:16:08.160 It don't do it at all. 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:10.120 It's real love what I did. 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.440 And plus, you know, putting the food on the tables everything, 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.360 you know what I'm saying. So I lucky years later 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.960 and I'm glad those doors shut in my face because. 0:16:20.720 --> 0:16:23.560 They didn't want to play cocaine on the radio. He 0:16:23.680 --> 0:16:26.000 said he died, but it was. 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.200 In me and not only I had to work. You 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.640 don't work, you don't eat. I just kept working because 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:35.400 the money was good, you know, and sometimes it wasn't, 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:38.040 you know. But then again, you know, you know, I'm 0:16:38.080 --> 0:16:41.840 grateful for every moment that I was able to endure 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:44.640 all these years and never did stop for the last 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:48.080 thirty five years. So you know, I'm here years later, 0:16:48.360 --> 0:16:50.800 being the most future recording artists in the world, and 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:55.120 it's cool. You know, it's something primarily to you know, 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:59.320 give to my the legacy, to my family. But then also, 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:02.240 you know, years later I look at all the influence 0:17:02.280 --> 0:17:03.320 and it's just surreal. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:06.040 I never did talk that. 0:17:06.040 --> 0:17:08.359 That's dope. You know what I was going to ask you, man, 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.280 you did a record, man, because you will work with 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:13.600 pretty much everybody. It ain't nobody that you haven't worked with. 0:17:14.359 --> 0:17:17.920 I heard you on the record with Puff right all 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:19.640 people with all this stuff. He gonna puthrough. 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:19.880 Yeah. 0:17:19.960 --> 0:17:22.840 I had to, man, I had to when you was 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:25.000 in that studio, in the studio with Puff, when y'all 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:25.560 did that record. 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:31.119 I went out there to Miami and uh at that time, Uh, 0:17:31.520 --> 0:17:32.080 that's the piece. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.200 Donnie from six oh he was my manager. 0:17:36.000 --> 0:17:38.679 So he ked it up, you know, did he had 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:42.480 called kind of this? Ain't Diddy hung up? And then 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:45.240 Donny call me back and said, yes did he? So 0:17:45.920 --> 0:17:48.280 Diddy has been a band of bars of all the 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.320 low cocaine him and Notorious b I G or many 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:52.720 moves you. 0:17:52.680 --> 0:17:56.000 Know, Uh b I G got this stout from King T. 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:57.840 So they loved Yeah. 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:58.280 True. 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:01.120 So when I went out there was all cool it 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:04.040 was laid out, and I was like, oh, that's cool. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.560 So we went to his little small island and I 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:08.720 ain't seen nothing next. 0:18:08.560 --> 0:18:12.920 To That's what I was glassy man. It wasn't it wasn't. 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:17.440 It wasn't. No pink cavey there. Evans was there. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:21.200 She was married to somebody from comfort at that time. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.520 Hold on faith had made it somebody from comfort. 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:27.920 So he was out there right and it was cool. 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:30.360 So he said, we going to the studio later that night. 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.399 So we get to the studio. He's jamming, playing all 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:37.480 the new stuff, you know, doing this little dancing and ship. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.880 So so you really be dancing the anime he was being. 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.920 He was being gone bust. Some moved, nigga, you walked 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:44.720 to right down. 0:18:45.840 --> 0:18:46.159