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Speaker 1: The chronic goals. This is not your average shows.

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Speaker 2: You're now tuned into the rail mc ain't, Big Change

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Speaker 2: and Big Steals the streets.

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Speaker 3: We like to welcome every one to another episode the

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Speaker 3: Gangst the Chronicles Podcast. My name is Big Steal along

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Speaker 3: with my homeboy. Yeah, and you know, A we don't

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Speaker 3: West Coast rowty up in here, they kind of come out,

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Speaker 3: you know, I know Coco is definitely from your class.

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Speaker 3: Tony Aight came next. We got the legendary Tonier, the Wizard,

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Speaker 3: legendary DJ and the homeboy legendary, the most featured man

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Speaker 3: What's cracking homies?

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Speaker 4: Jelly right here, my brother, Thank you first and foremost

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Speaker 5: I started in the garage.

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Speaker 1: I was just the same. We started from the garage.

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Speaker 5: Tables and just making making tapes, just rapping over like

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a different area.

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Speaker 6: That was the time where we used to you know,

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Speaker 1: Paul's tapes, you know, that was that was That was an.

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Speaker 3: Experience though putting the Palls tapes. I'm gonna ask each

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Speaker 3: Did you ever think that she would achieve the things

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Speaker 4: You know, I started popping and I thought I was

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Speaker 4: because he knew everybody. He introduced me to Violet Brown

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Speaker 4: and a happy birchrut there because her birthday was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Ye had the birthday Violet. For those that don't know,

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Speaker 4: Yes, so he choose me to Herd, He choose me

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Speaker 4: to Dre, Steven choose me to Easy Jinks. My very

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Speaker 4: respect to him, the owner of VIP Records. So that

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Speaker 4: And then when he bought me my first SP twelve hundred,

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Speaker 4: The you know, the manual was like this big, like

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 4: I didn't know if Dre was it. Didn't really have

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Speaker 4: with my turntable. He was in a team out of

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Speaker 4: asked him like, how long have you been living here?

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Speaker 4: And he said like six months?

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 4: And I was like, okay, cause you don't even have

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Speaker 4: You're gonna have to put that record on forty five,

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Speaker 4: then slow it down here, then record get your tempo

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Speaker 4: in there. And I have photographic memories. I was able

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Speaker 4: to remember everything. That's crazy.

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Speaker 3: So you learned how to program a SB twelve hundred,

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Speaker 5: I learned how to program an NPC by just watching slip.

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Speaker 5: I didn't read no manu or none of that shit.

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Speaker 3: That's how I kind of was just being around.

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Speaker 5: Just went and barked one one day and said, fock it,

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Speaker 5: I don't FeelA, go for bro. That's how you teach yourself. Shit.

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Speaker 5: I learned some shit and I didn't want to do

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cooco, did you ever think you would axceieve or

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Speaker 3: did you ever think you'd be the most featured nigga

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Speaker 3: I wantn't take it like that.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: I had to work because they wouldn't play my name

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Speaker 6: So nine times out of tien and I go to

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 6: I said, Nah, I didn't think about that, he said,

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Speaker 6: I said, now I'm thinking about that, right, You know

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it was good, sometimes it wasn't. But I love music,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So I tell anybody it's

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Speaker 1: Make some snaps, but you got to love what you do.

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Speaker 3: It don't do it at all.

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Speaker 1: It's real love what I did.

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Speaker 6: And plus, you know, putting the food on the tables everything,

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Speaker 1: They didn't want to play cocaine on the radio. He

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Speaker 6: In me and not only I had to work. You

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Speaker 6: it's cool. You know, it's something primarily to you know,

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Speaker 1: I never did talk that.

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Speaker 3: That's dope. You know what I was going to ask you, man,

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I had to, man, I had to when you was

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Speaker 6: I went out there to Miami and uh at that time, Uh,

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Speaker 1: Donnie from six oh he was my manager.

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Speaker 6: So he ked it up, you know, did he had

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Speaker 6: Donny call me back and said, yes did he? So

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Speaker 6: low cocaine him and Notorious b I G or many

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Speaker 1: Know, Uh b I G got this stout from King T.

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Speaker 1: So they loved Yeah.

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Speaker 3: True.

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Speaker 6: So when I went out there was all cool it

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Speaker 6: So we went to his little small island and I

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Speaker 3: To That's what I was glassy man. It wasn't it wasn't.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't. No pink cavey there. Evans was there.

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Speaker 6: She was married to somebody from comfort at that time.

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Speaker 3: Hold on faith had made it somebody from comfort.

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Speaker 6: So he was out there right and it was cool.

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Speaker 6: So he said, we going to the studio later that night.

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Speaker 6: So we get to the studio. He's jamming, playing all

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Speaker 3: So so you really be dancing the anime he was being.

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Speaker 5: He was being gone bust. Some moved, nigga, you walked

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 5: It never doned shade his shoulder.

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Speaker 1: It never John dummy. You know.

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Speaker 6: He was being cool, like you cool, like you cool.

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Speaker 6: Everybody they're cool. So I do my work and he's

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Speaker 6: like impressed this ship. You know I did sometimes lonely.

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Speaker 6: He said, we're going to this popping club tonight. I said, okay,

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Speaker 1: So I'm just telling the story. I said, nah, I

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Speaker 6: So we go to the club and on the first floor,

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Speaker 1: Second second floor is cold.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's chilling.

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Speaker 1: When we get up to the third floor, it's kind

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Speaker 1: of different. It hit different. This do it over there

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Speaker 1: doing something, little dude. Just do it over there doing something,

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Speaker 1: that dude. And we are in a round circle with

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Speaker 1: I looked at this niggas so cold, like this, hey,

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Speaker 6: had that look like Nickel, he's seen I wasn't with

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Speaker 6: got my chilopas and that was that. And I always

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Speaker 6: I just start sharing it because you know, anybody do

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Speaker 6: black man dawn. No, what he did. It ain't cool,

435
00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. But that's his business between

436
00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,879
Speaker 6: him and guy. But that was my experience, you know

437
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,119
Speaker 6: with mister Diddy.

438
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what. I feel kind of vindicated because

439
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 3: I was telling them about that. You know, they said

440
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,440
Speaker 3: he was getting something like pink cocaine, pink coco, pink

441
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,280
Speaker 3: Cabby from the girl Young Miami or whatever it was. Right,

442
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 3: if I told you about the Hollywood party I went

443
00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 3: to when they came out there with the tray and

444
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:07,880
Speaker 3: they had some pink some pink poies, and I was like, man,

445
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,199
Speaker 3: but on on, not with them. I was at some

446
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,240
Speaker 3: weird ship though, and they had some pink powder on

447
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:16,280
Speaker 3: the trade and I was like, damn, what the hell

448
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 3: is that? But I got the hell on?

449
00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 5: So what do you think is it?

450
00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: That?

451
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: Is it?

452
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,399
Speaker 5: The money to just make a motherfucker get weird?

453
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: Is it? What is it?

454
00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:24,120
Speaker 5: What is it?

455
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,320
Speaker 3: I believe, man, y'all can elaborate if y'all want to.

456
00:21:27,359 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 3: I believe that's already in them. But they don't have

457
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 3: the opportunity to flex like that. Because when you're a

458
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,720
Speaker 3: regular dude, you can't do all that. You just can't

459
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: order stuff. You just can't. Oh, I'm gonna go buy this.

460
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 3: You know, I'm gonna do this, do that. But when

461
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,600
Speaker 3: you get that paper, it allows you to start experiencing

462
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 3: stuff a little different.

463
00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 5: To take a trip to the island, the little island,

464
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,320
Speaker 5: to go do a.

465
00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 3: Beat man, you know what? Probably so. But I wouldn't

466
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 3: have been one of none of the other stuff.

467
00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 5: But the pop word of exstasy. Had Nigga hopped the

468
00:21:54,600 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 5: route like by digging from colors years, No, I.

469
00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,200
Speaker 3: Wouldn't have been with that.

470
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 1: Look. Look it was cold until you know that situation.

471
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:07,840
Speaker 1: But I didn't judge you.

472
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:09,120
Speaker 6: I got my motherfucking bread.

473
00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: So to elaborate, he took you to the final level.

474
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 3: He took you to the final level of that.

475
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:21,880
Speaker 1: Upper room. He took you to the upper echelone, elne What.

476
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 3: Was he doing? Was he in that dancing?

477
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: Was he like?

478
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 6: I just want to know, Like we were sitting at

479
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 6: the table, it was bottles, and I just felt uncomfortable.

480
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:35,439
Speaker 3: I would have felt uncomfortable, you.

481
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 6: Know, you know, no disrespect against any communities. But I'm

482
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 6: gonna pull ahead of sexual bro and I don't get

483
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 6: down like that.

484
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

485
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 6: I've seen that and it made me uncomfortable. And I

486
00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:49,280
Speaker 6: wasn't out there for that weirdow ship. I was out

487
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 6: there to get my bread and handle my business. And

488
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,800
Speaker 6: I handled my business and be Yeah, years later we

489
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 6: all seeing this shit happened, you know what I mean,

490
00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,680
Speaker 6: And you know it's unfortunately sad, but a lot.

491
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: Of that shit. He's just one out of mini that's

492
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: about to be exposed.

493
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, gonna be surprised this year. Who's going You're

494
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:12,919
Speaker 6: gonna be surprised this year? Who's going to get exposed?

495
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 6: Because you know, there's such thing as a guy, and

496
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 6: there's such thing as paying the piper from Satan said,

497
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 6: when Satan get done with you, asked gonna say come here.

498
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: He ain't the he ain't the only one. But I

499
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 3: did hear from one of the homemianes. And I ain't

500
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,879
Speaker 3: gonna put his name out there, but he used to

501
00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: work for Sugar. He told me a long time ago.

502
00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 3: He said, man puff ten times worse than Shulgar. Ever

503
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 3: it was, he said, so, y'all, he said, you ain't

504
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,800
Speaker 3: seen nothing though. He said, no, that dude ain't innocent

505
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,359
Speaker 3: like you're thinking of. He said he ain't going through

506
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 3: no details with me, but he told me that. You know, Tony,

507
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: it's a lot of stuff going on right now. I mean,

508
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 3: you was having a conversation the other day. You know,

509
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,600
Speaker 3: they said they accused him Puffy of some freaky stuff,

510
00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,159
Speaker 3: you know, being a freak pretty much. You know what

511
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean. But it's stuff that goes way deeper. You

512
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. It ain't cool. It's satanic, Yeah,

513
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:02,280
Speaker 3: satan the mind. Yeah, there's all kinds of shit going

514
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 3: out to cut you off. We ain't gonna sit there

515
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 3: at the table neck like we don't know what's going on. Oh,

516
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 3: it's a lot going on. The biggest thing I was

517
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,320
Speaker 3: talking with the homie about the other day was the

518
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,439
Speaker 3: trend because one of the things Cassie accused Buffer was

519
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: getting getting other men to have you know, six you know,

520
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 3: relationship with her while he watched That's where those shit.

521
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 3: And it's like, that's a big trend right now. Me

522
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: and you were me and you was talking about that.

523
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,720
Speaker 3: It's a real tree in now to where dudes is

524
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,800
Speaker 3: going out and getting cats to go mess with their

525
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 3: wives while they sit there and look, yeah.

526
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: Like that's that's weird.

527
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 3: But but look it's not references has.

528
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 5: Been going back for a while. When you see these weird,

529
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 5: rich old motherfuckers who couldn't get it up no more

530
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 5: and they sitting the head and room while their wife

531
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 5: you know, fucking nigga and then they be sitting in

532
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: their head and run, you know, watching and shit or filming.

533
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 3: It's been going on for many moms, going on.

534
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,200
Speaker 1: For a while.

535
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,600
Speaker 5: So you know, like I said, I don't know what

536
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 5: what a category or what criteria people be. You know,

537
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,480
Speaker 5: when like you say, a motherfucker just say enough ain't

538
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 5: enough and they got taken ship to two different levels

539
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 5: of whatever.

540
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: Take that, Take that, Take that again again.

541
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 5: That goes to my saying, uh, we got people in

542
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 5: this world who just don't know how to be normal.

543
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,240
Speaker 1: You get me.

544
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's crazy.

545
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,359
Speaker 5: Like you said, I don't know if like motherfucker was

546
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,359
Speaker 5: a heading nigga did some freaky ship when he was

547
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 5: in school as a kid. Knows what the motherfucker used

548
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: to do.

549
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 6: But the color stinger around it Mom's clothes, she was gone,

550
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 6: who knows?

551
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,560
Speaker 5: You get me, motherfucker. And and that's why I say

552
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 5: it is that the money that makes them feel comfortable

553
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 5: to where you know, I can do all this motherfucking

554
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 5: secret eyes wide shut, got my whole community with their

555
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 5: masquerade mask on and men all in the corner freaking

556
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: on each other because I feel like I'm met the

557
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,920
Speaker 5: status to where I rubbed shoulders with certain people.

558
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 3: Yea upper excellent.

559
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:24,520
Speaker 5: I'm untouchable.

560
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:25,760
Speaker 1: And they've been that.

561
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell you that wasn't I believe anyone that's

562
00:26:29,080 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 3: living the hedonistic lifestyle. Bro, it's always been on their mind,

563
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 3: but they didn't have the chips to execute the game.

564
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 3: Planing out the chips. It's anything, it's anything happening, right,

565
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,439
Speaker 3: you know, Me and you was having the conversation other day. Right,

566
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,640
Speaker 3: we ain't gonna put no you know, because you ain't

567
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,159
Speaker 3: even tell me no names. I ask no names. But

568
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 3: you've had people proposition you. Yeah.

569
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 4: And also I've had dudes tell me stories. For an example,

570
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 4: see that guy over there, Yeah, that guy paid me

571
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 4: the fuck his wife.

572
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: Like reals, Yeah, and you did it? Yeah? What did

573
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 3: he do?

574
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 4: He just sat there and watched. And it's been a

575
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,439
Speaker 4: trend for a while. Dudes, you know, have pretty much

576
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 4: told me stories. Oh yeah, I was with this, why

577
00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 4: I was with this white and then after a while

578
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 4: it almost seemed like a like a common thing, you know.

579
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 4: And the reason why that thing really tripped me out

580
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 4: is because I, like, I want to say this, I

581
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,440
Speaker 4: got out of the music industry in two thousand and

582
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 4: two and I didn't come back till twenty seventeen, so

583
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,640
Speaker 4: I really missed like fifteen years of music. So when

584
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 4: I came back and I started this podcast to promote

585
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 4: my documentary, everything just started hitting me. Like people started

586
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,479
Speaker 4: telling me story, where you been, man? This has been

587
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 4: going on, Man, this has been going on this And

588
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: then when I started hearing stories, I'm like, this motherfucking

589
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: world got weirder. I mean, I was working at Rawse

590
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 4: Local five seventy and two. I was a teamster for Kroger,

591
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: who owns Rouse and the city of Compton right there

592
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 4: with Womanton in the ninety one and I was there

593
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 4: for fifteen years, man, and I didn't listen to really

594
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: listen to no music. I didn't want it to do

595
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 4: with the music industry because the music industry got weird,

596
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 4: and uh, the business oute of it just turned me off.

597
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 4: So when I came back, it was like new to

598
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 4: me all over again. You know, I thought for me

599
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 4: to promote my documentary, I had to buy an ad

600
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,439
Speaker 4: in the newspaper by adding a magazine, or buy a

601
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: bus stop or something. They said, no saw social media.

602
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 4: So when I got on there, to my surprise, okay,

603
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 4: certain females started hitting me up. So I knew certain

604
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: females from a long time, and I was like, hey,

605
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 4: who is that person they keep, you know, sending me messages?

606
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 4: Don't message him back, and I go him, Yeah, that's rappers.

607
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 4: So and so he's pretending to be a girl to

608
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 4: get nude pics from a dude. And I didn't know

609
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 4: that that existed.

610
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: Oh wow, so all that shit catfishing, Yeah it's a dude. Yeah.

611
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 5: I was like, motherfucker, gonna pretend to be a bitch, yeah,

612
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 5: and get the flirting with you and won't be wom

613
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: Nigga'm gonna give you some pussy, nigga, nigga, send me

614
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 5: some of them picks. And then you send the motherfucker

615
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 5: some picks. And then they turned around the nigga, you

616
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 5: may slide me some bread before I let everybody see.

617
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 3: I never understood that cat sending them picks out anyway.

618
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 3: You feel what I'm saying, like, like, what is that? Well,

619
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 3: let me say this, NNA catch you ask? Oh no

620
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 3: you ain't no picks me out there nowhere.

621
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:31,239
Speaker 4: So what happened was I found out later later on

622
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 4: that those guys that were acting like females were really

623
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: into that. They were really into dudes, but they didn't

624
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 4: want to come out and say, you know, I'm a

625
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 4: dude and can I see you naked? So let me

626
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 4: pretend I'm a girl so I can get off and

627
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 4: you sending me picks.

628
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 3: Normal. I'm glad to be normally the most because I'm

629
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 3: listening to this stuff because you have to be horrible.

630
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: We have to have I believe in God first and

631
00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,160
Speaker 3: foremost man. And when you make a file before a

632
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 3: God that you're gonna marry this woman, you can't treat

633
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 3: it like a toss up dog. You can't treat it

634
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: like a toss up. That's the mother of your kids,

635
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 3: that's your wife, that's your soul mate. That's supposed to

636
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 3: be any if anything, her messing with another dude's supposed

637
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 3: to sing you into a fit of rags. You feel

638
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: what I mean?

639
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 1: I think that like everybody said, I think it's been

640
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,719
Speaker 1: around for a minute.

641
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: It's just you know, the Internet exposes and put in

642
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 6: on steroids, and.

643
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: I don't knock nobody, you know, I got to book

644
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: my disclaimer out there, you know, I got I don't

645
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: care what nobody do in the privacy of their bedroom.

646
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 3: Whatever floats your boat, and if you and your husband

647
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 3: cool with it, it ain't none of my business. But

648
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,200
Speaker 3: I just think it's a lot of weird stuff going

649
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,400
Speaker 3: on in me and glasses always getting the arguments because

650
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 3: I tell them about certain people in the industry that

651
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: you might look up to, and I say, broh, no, no,

652
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 3: you know this, dude, man, No, still you lying? You lying?

653
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 3: How you know? Man? I'm telling you, I just know

654
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 3: some stuff. You just know you feel what I'm saying. Well,

655
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 3: let me drop this one on you.

656
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 4: I know a lowrider car show model from years ago,

657
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: and I think I won't say her name, but I

658
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 4: believe you know who she is.

659
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: I'll tell you guys after, you know, because he started

660
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: laughing as soon as you said.

661
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 4: Well, she's been my friend for a long time. She

662
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: was on I'm Not your puppet video, Okay, So I'll

663
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 4: leave that clue she was dating this one boxer, a

664
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 4: real wealthy boxer. I'll name him after as well. And

665
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 4: she told me, she goes, she would always talk to me.

666
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: She goes, oh, I went to this club with him,

667
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: and I said, really, She goes said. We were sitting

668
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 4: down at the booths. It was him and then another guy,

669
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 4: and I dropped my purse. So when I've been down

670
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 4: to my purse, I looked and he was holding hands

671
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 4: like this with that dude, he goes. So I said,

672
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 4: you know what, I'll be back. I'm gonna go take

673
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 4: a walk around. And then she started naming everybody that

674
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: she saw there, and I said, what kind of club

675
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: was this? She goes, it was a gay club. She

676
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 4: named rappers that I looked up to that were there.

677
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 4: So when she went up to him because she knew

678
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 4: them because of me, what are you doing here? Oh,

679
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 4: we just come here to network.

680
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 3: Network for sure. They're trying to network network there, Yeah, freak.

681
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: I met some record executives that wanted to sign some

682
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 4: of the groups that I was working with.

683
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 3: You steal that.

684
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 4: Would tell me, oh, yeah, that rapper and that rapper

685
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 4: they come over to sleep over all time.

686
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: I cooking breakfast That's what I'm saying. What's this thing

687
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: about ron men spend the night on each other's house

688
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 3: like their little kids. There's a lot of freaky shit

689
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 3: going on in this motherfucking you.

690
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 5: Just silenced me in this episode. Man, you got me. Yeah,

691
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 5: I'm just quiet as the church mouth with you.

692
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: Man. Were gonna be off of this, We're gonna be off. Yeah, yeah,

693
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 3: what because you know Brian, he loved doing it. So

694
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 3: I'm gonna repeat that for those who might never heard it.

695
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 3: Do you think that they were overboard with the way

696
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: they came at didn' nah.

697
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: It's deep than that.

698
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: It's that I'm telling you.

699
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: What's that doing?

700
00:32:56,160 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 3: Epstein? Jeffrey Epstein? Ye, awesome like that? Oh yeah, for sure.

701
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: I heard he was the herd. Puffy is the plug

702
00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 3: man he.

703
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 5: Get when you get accusations, you know, because motherfuckers, you know,

704
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 5: they don't want to go to the regular court route

705
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 5: because you know they won't go to civil route. You're

706
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 5: gonna be able to give me some bread. But motherfuckers

707
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 5: is kicking. They peeping everything that's going on in the

708
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 5: civil case. And now they reading ship like what this

709
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 5: nigga said, this happened and what this and that whatever.

710
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 5: So now they like, nigga, we need to jump in

711
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 5: here and see.

712
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: What tell you the truth?

713
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 6: Being my boy Pat is talking, I think R Kelly

714
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,719
Speaker 6: is spilling the beans on everybody.

715
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: You know, he might be. He might be like, y'o

716
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: wasn't there for me?

717
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like I said, it was trying.

718
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: It was.

719
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 5: It was a money It was a money play. You

720
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 5: get me, mother, because motherfuckers who felt like if he

721
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 5: paid her off, I don't seen a few things, so

722
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 5: let me go. But see by the end, once he

723
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 5: then gave out the first check, now he's feeling like,

724
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 5: you know, all the mother niggas are small potatoes I

725
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 5: got rid of, you know, paid off the big fish.

726
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 5: Anybody else can say some shit. I'm just deny.

727
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 3: I be not you know what I think happened?

728
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Man.

729
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 3: I think always tell people be careful how you treat

730
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 3: people on the way up. Because see, it's one thing

731
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: to fall off this table, it's a whole nother thing

732
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: to fall off this roof. So the bigger you are,

733
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 3: the harder your father is gonna be right. And I

734
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 3: think he pissed somebody off, doog, he.

735
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 5: Put his tomgirl off, got her doing all that freaky

736
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 5: deaky shit. You said, I don't get my bread falling.

737
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 3: That just hurt, you know, Luke said, I was hearing

738
00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: a homie Luke shut out to the own boy, Luther Campbell.

739
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 3: He was talking about, you know, what was the brand

740
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 3: he had? What was the the Saraq the people from

741
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 3: sarak the company. You know, he was involved in a

742
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 3: lawsuit with them or whatever, and he accused them of

743
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: being racist. And some people ain't. You know, when you

744
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 3: get to just dragons trying to drag certain people that

745
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:25,359
Speaker 3: got money, dog, they'll put you in your place real quick. Yeah,

746
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 3: you know, he become a liability bro. And then you figure,

747
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: like you said, he might have been involved with that

748
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 3: Epstein dude, because you know, when they put out that

749
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 3: list of those people that were going to that island,

750
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: they had a lot of people's names on that list.

751
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: And then I don't know what they're doing. I don't

752
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 3: like talking about Jay and Beyonce because I don't know

753
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: their business. I don't know their household. You feel what

754
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: I mean, They seem like normal people, but their names

755
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: was on that list. Bro, if a Doe's then my

756
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 3: thing is this dogs hang with dogs. You don't never

757
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: see a pack of cats and dogs running the street together.

758
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 3: You see dogs running together, you see straight cats running together.

759
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: You feel what I mean. If you got a motherfucker

760
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 3: that's doing real hedonistic shitting, just on some next level

761
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: perversion shit, and you hanging out with him and you

762
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 3: see people with him, more than likely they ended the

763
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: same shit, right, That's all I'm gonna say. I don't know.

764
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 3: I'm not here, you know, I'm not trying to get

765
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,320
Speaker 3: no clicks, but knowing Jay's name out there, but it

766
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: was a lot of people on that list, man, And

767
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 3: I think that people really, I think people will really

768
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,919
Speaker 3: be selling their souls. Man. Oh yeah, people be really

769
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 3: selling their souls. You know, I'm gonna tell you.

770
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 5: That's that heading curtain. Class. You know, you go somewhere,

771
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 5: it's the head and curtain, and you can't go back

772
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 5: there because you on You ain't on the list, you

773
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 5: ain't a member. That's that that's that class man.

774
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's special club.

775
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 5: Across that rope man, behind that rope in that curtin

776
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 5: Nigga's some wild shit going on.

777
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 3: You don't want to go behind the green door. I

778
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 3: do want to go behind there. Still no, not at all. Man,

779
00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 3: I don't even want to people. I don't even want

780
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 3: the people my head in for a minute, not for

781
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 3: no amount of money, not for no type of fame

782
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 3: or popularity.

783
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 5: And you had like two hundred you had like two

784
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 5: three hundred million, you wouldn't be you wouldn't Now you're

785
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 5: a small island. Oh No, running around with weird shit on,

786
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:19,040
Speaker 5: playing like you back in Africa just was just no.

787
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 3: I'm cool. I'm gonna tell you what's the dude's name?

788
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,279
Speaker 3: Because you had got into producer films and stuff, right,

789
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 3: you got a producer because you produced the Royal documentary

790
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: what's the Guy's Name? That produced the Will Smith, the

791
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Fresh Pencil Bellary, and a lot of these TV shows

792
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 3: Benny Benny Medina. Now you always had to follow the

793
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: certain trailer stuff. Every rapper that got cracking in the

794
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 3: eighties that went broke and got a TV show, You

795
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:49,760
Speaker 3: ever noticed they went big? Anybody just missed with Bennie

796
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 3: Medina went big. It's the such thing as selling your

797
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 3: soul for fame door popularity, because I'm not gonna put

798
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 3: names and people go do their own research for what

799
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 3: I'm saying. But you had big rappers going broke in

800
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 3: the early days of hip hop. You know, they were

801
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 3: making it, making million dollars they kids doing then they broke, right,

802
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: So you get this dude to offer them an opportunity.

803
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 3: Hey man, I'm gonna put you on TV. I'mnna give

804
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 3: you a couple of million dollars, puts you back up,

805
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 3: But you gotta do this, this and that. These people

806
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 3: do this, this and that because it's already in them

807
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: and they may have been doing it before, you feel

808
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, or may not have had the thing,

809
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: or maybe have been in denial about who they were.

810
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 3: You feel what I mean, or they may not be

811
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 3: that way, but they just did for the pay. You

812
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 3: feel what I'm saying. It's a lot of wicked stuff

813
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: that goes on, man. And I ain't just gonna say Hollywood,

814
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:43,240
Speaker 3: but just in just in that world, dog, whereas millions

815
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 3: of dollars and being you know, spent around, they can

816
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 3: just press buttons and make stuff happen.

817
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: Like I say, it's like a motherfucker who start off

818
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 5: smoking some stress weed and he keep excelling because it

819
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 5: ain't never enough. And now you know, nigga shooting needles

820
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 5: up and doing all kinds of weirdshit because the high

821
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: just ain't a knock. You mean, I gotta get higher.

822
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 5: That's them motherfuckers.

823
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: That's them, bro.

824
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 5: They get that some normal pussy or some normal.

825
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 1: Dick or whatever.

826
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 5: That ain't not I need a motherfucker running around here

827
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: and a rabbit shoot nigga with his asshole out, and

828
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 5: Nigga sniffing cocaine off his balls or some weird shit.

829
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: Oh, man, I'm gonna tell you one of the homies. Man,

830
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 3: that's a bodyguard, right. I've been trying to get him

831
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 3: to come on the show. Dog. He won't do it. Dog,

832
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 3: I ain't even gonna say his name. Put him out there.

833
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: He told me, Man, he was working and I can't

834
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: say the names of the people because he gonna get

835
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 3: the trip. Mike, Still, you talking too much. But he

836
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 3: still he was working for this one individual that's a

837
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: sports icon hell own NFL team. He said that he

838
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: was doing some work for him, and he said, you know,

839
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 3: he got in. He was like one of the top

840
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 3: you know guards. So he's in the house and there

841
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,479
Speaker 3: at the night. He said, Man, every Friday night, Man,

842
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: it would be a motherfucker come in there in the costume, like,

843
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 3: you know, get dressed up like Fred Flintstone and knock

844
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,960
Speaker 3: this dude's wife down like put on the old Fred

845
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 3: Flinstone Cartoony Fred. It's just a lot of weird stuff.

846
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 3: It's a lot of weird, crazy stuff.

847
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 5: Man, that's Joe, That's that. That that that that broke

848
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 5: that Kurt. You want to go behind there? Man, stay

849
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 5: on this side. Man, be no, It's okay to be normal.

850
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,320
Speaker 3: It's okay. And I'm cool being an average vanilla motherfucker.

851
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: I'm cool. I'm cool with being average. So Tony, you

852
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,320
Speaker 3: and Crawt is doing your thing. You produced that old album,

853
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: you and.

854
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 4: Him boss, except two songs quick that the other two. Yeah,

855
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,800
Speaker 4: but that's how it started. Now keep in mind, and

856
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: I do want to say this because I was just

857
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:55,479
Speaker 4: a mixtape guy. I didn't know anything about production, absolutely nothing.

858
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 4: So when we did I'm Not your Puppet. That was

859
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: Steve's idea, he said, told lit's do an original song

860
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 4: to put on a mixtape for a high sea. I

861
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 4: didn't know anything about production. I had a Newmark mixture

862
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: that had a sampler, so I just sampled the bar.

863
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 4: I remember, I sampled like and peached to presidents and

864
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: then I threw it on my four track, pulled a

865
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: one task can. Then I got the record or a

866
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 4: nunch of puppet. It's the four bar loop, so the

867
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 4: SP twelve is not gonna sample that. So I had

868
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 4: to ride that motherfucker on time, stop, go back, go

869
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,320
Speaker 4: to another tracks, you know, on time for about four minutes.

870
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 4: I see comes over and he's just were styling some boots,

871
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 4: some funny shit, and Steve said, that's dope. List's go

872
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 4: with that. And I was like, we're just fucking around, No,

873
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 4: let's go with that, all right, cool whatever. So we

874
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 4: put it on a mixtape, and I remember that mixtape

875
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,480
Speaker 4: so like fucking hotcakes at the Rodeium. He would pay

876
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: me like two hundred bucks per mixtape, so we would

877
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 4: do one one every month because we had allowed new

878
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 4: music to come out. So so he said that one's

879
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 4: so really good, is to do another one. So I just

880
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 4: flipped the records over and sitting in the parkment, Billy

881
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: Stewart was on there. I just simple substitution. My Newmark

882
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 4: mixer dropped it again. He did the fucking lyrics, so

883
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 4: and then I still remember the guy's names Stuart Cohen.

884
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 4: He worked for Disney. They had just opened up a

885
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: record label called Hollywood the Records.

886
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 5: The remember Stewart.

887
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 3: Yeah.

888
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 4: So so they come to the Rodium and they pretty much.

889
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 4: They show Steve the tape and he goes, I believe

890
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: so yeah. So he says, who did this tape? And

891
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 4: Steve said he did any pointed at me and we

892
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 4: always thought it was people gonna bust us for selling

893
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,640
Speaker 4: boot legs.

894
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 3: So he didn't want to do it.

895
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,360
Speaker 4: This ship yes, And then I said, yeah, but he

896
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: sells them, you know. So he said no, No, I'm

897
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: looking for that guy right here. He says, Hi, see

898
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 4: because I named the tape after him, and he goes,

899
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 4: I'm looking for him. We just opened up a new

900
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 4: record label and we're looking to sign him.

901
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: You know.

902
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,920
Speaker 4: This got dropped into my lap at the office. So

903
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 4: I said, well I could take you to So we went,

904
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: and the weirdest part, Bro, we didn't hear from that

905
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 4: dude's ass from his ask for like six months.

906
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 3: Bro.

907
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 4: By that time, my mom had kicked me out. I

908
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 4: was like curb serving. I was just a nickel and

909
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,759
Speaker 4: diamond bro. So she found a little dope I had

910
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 4: with little money out and she kicked me out. I

911
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 4: had a tank top, I had a broken wrist, some

912
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 4: green Ben Davis is, some Nike Cortes, and I was

913
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: just staying from house to house. Then one of my

914
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: homeboys hits me up and he goes say, hey, Steve,

915
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 4: call me. He's in Florida and he wants to talk

916
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 4: to you tonight. He's in a call me about an hour.

917
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,680
Speaker 4: He wanted me to find you and I was like, Okay,

918
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 4: for what and he says, I don't know, he wants

919
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,480
Speaker 4: to talk to you. So this was on a Friday,

920
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 4: I believe. So we go to his house. Steve called

921
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 4: me with Florida. I'm flying in over the weekend.

922
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: Hollywood.

923
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 4: The Records wants to meet us on Monday, and I

924
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 4: was like for what. It wanted to give us a

925
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 4: record deal. A record deal. He was member that guy

926
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: that came to the Swami and I go, yeah, that

927
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 4: guy wants to give us a record deal. And I

928
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 4: was like okay, what, like does that involve money? And

929
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 4: he was like yeah, they want to give us forty

930
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 4: thousand for a single and then a hundred thousand for

931
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 4: the album. Mister single sells good. So I was like,

932
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:05,759
Speaker 4: all right then, but I don't have a ride over it.

933
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 4: Don't worry, I'll pick your So you came all the

934
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 4: way from Whittier to Womington to Burbank and then that's

935
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 4: when we met. And that's the first day I actually

936
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: even met Funking Client. You gouts memory of Funking Client,

937
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 4: Rest in peace. Funk and Clin He opened up Hollywood

938
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: Basic at Disney, so they signed us, and then that's

939
00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,280
Speaker 4: how I started. That's how I was forced to become

940
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 4: a producer, and I knew nothing about producing, so I

941
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:30,920
Speaker 4: just started learning how to sample. And the crazy part

942
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 4: about that record was this that it was my first

943
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: time out. I thought I was experimenting. I gave him

944
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 4: my best and we ended up getting a gold record.

945
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: Wow, that's how I usually happening. You know, I wanted

946
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 3: to ask you, did y'all ever go back and do

947
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:46,600
Speaker 3: that puppet y'all obviously did the I'm your Puppet record

948
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 3: over again? Yes? Because you got different skills now at

949
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 3: this point, so I'm pretty sure you want to go

950
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: clean that motherfuck up.

951
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 5: You know.

952
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,800
Speaker 4: You know what The reason why we never did because

953
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 4: it was clean in the very beginning.

954
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 3: Limit to your why so that's it. Not to get

955
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 3: cut you off. But that's the same record. That's the

956
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 3: same record. That's crazy, man.

957
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 4: The reason why because we took it and I told Donovan, Uh,

958
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: I go, Bro, I don't know how to sample this.

959
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 3: This a four bar loop. I'm your puppet.

960
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 4: So if you remember he had the sp told keyboard,

961
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 4: remember that was on the couch, and he goes, I'll

962
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 4: just sample it on here. So he sampled a full

963
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 4: four bar and he just threw it on the two

964
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: inch and he just kept repeating it. He was already

965
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 4: working on comput he had a computer back then in

966
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 4: the eighties, and he sampled it and uh, you know,

967
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 4: I mean that's how that happened. And then we did

968
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 4: Sitting in the Park there we did a song called

969
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 4: Jack Move, and then they released a single and but

970
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: Hollywood Records really experimented with our record because they had

971
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: a bunch of college kids working at that label.

972
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 3: First they released a.

973
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 4: Single of a puppet, and then he took it off,

974
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: and then they released a MAXI single. Then he took

975
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 4: it off, and we were traveling, Bro, traveling on a

976
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 4: promotional tour, you know, uh, performing our songs, and none

977
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 4: of our the record stores had our music.

978
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 3: Bro, that's crazy us think when that's happened.

979
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 5: That happened, That happened a few times. Yeah, you go

980
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 5: to record stores and they wouldn't have your product or whatever.

981
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 5: Just bad marketing promotions.

982
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 3: Man, piss some motherfucker off. So obviously y'all doing your job, though.

983
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 4: Yes, the good thing is that we took a camcorder

984
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: and we would walk in that store and say, do

985
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: you have the High Seat three Tree tony eight album?

986
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 4: Who's that?

987
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:27,760
Speaker 3: Everywhere?

988
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 4: A land up, Philadelphia, Detroit, everywhere. So we would come

989
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,399
Speaker 4: back giving the videotapes and then it would tell us

990
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 4: what was the name of those stores so we can

991
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: make sure they get them. I'm like, what the fuck?

992
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: We had a weel distribution and those record stores didn't

993
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 4: even have it.

994
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, they're not putting them records out there. Yeah, just

995
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 5: just the moms and pops is not order of them

996
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 5: because they don't know shit about them. And then the

997
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 5: motherfucking consumers, we don't know nothing about no local rouge

998
00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 5: from you know, you went through the eight sometimes, even

999
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 5: as big as your records was, sometimes I would go

1000
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 5: to you know, maybe later on in my career, I

1001
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 5: would go to record stores and they wouldn't have product.

1002
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,919
Speaker 4: You know, I will say this, I never met eight

1003
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 4: back then, but I was always a big fan because

1004
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:18,640
Speaker 4: my favorite.

1005
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:19,720
Speaker 3: Song today is still this is Compton.

1006
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 4: When when that be kicked into.

1007
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: That ship, that'd be kicked in.

1008
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: Fuck.

1009
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 4: I used to always cut that, cut it up. But

1010
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:33,160
Speaker 4: when me and Crawford started traveling everywhere, we used to go, Oh,

1011
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 4: it was here last week. Damn I missed him. It

1012
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 4: was here last week. Oh, as a matter of fact,

1013
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: you were. We were there the week after. It was

1014
00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 4: in Houston, Texas at a place called the Palladium. Yeah,

1015
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 4: and I still have our fly. I keep everything wrong

1016
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:48,840
Speaker 4: and everywhere.

1017
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 5: We went massive promo tours. Man Epic used to send

1018
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 5: me all over the country on a promo tour. I

1019
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:57,120
Speaker 5: hated that ship.

1020
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I used to ask a slip about.

1021
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 5: You to promote the record, but we didn't benefit from

1022
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:11,239
Speaker 5: the ship. That's from Red was concerned shitiggas all over

1023
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 5: the country promote it's selling records. That motherfucker's lied up

1024
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 5: outside to get all the grass. Nigga, you get home, nigga,

1025
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 5: you broke as a motherfucking life. Damn nigga record selling

1026
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: where's the bread? This is that publisher? Shit, wasn't Joe

1027
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 5: good man?

1028
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 6: I mean, bitch you dollars hundred dollars per diam.

1029
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 3: Did you go through the same shit, gogo?

1030
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm pretty sure we'll make record out back

1031
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:43,200
Speaker 5: then belonging to a Sony or whatever.

1032
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 3: Nigga.

1033
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 5: You go on the road, you being just moving around, Nigga,

1034
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,919
Speaker 5: you get home, record all over the place, videos out

1035
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:57,480
Speaker 5: and nigga royalty check what it.

1036
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't no what because the costs ate up all that. Man.

1037
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 6: They started spitting out the expended just where you owe

1038
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 6: this or this? And then the check looked like nigga

1039
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 6: five dollars.

1040
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 5: We had a conversation about you last week was two hours, nigga.

1041
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,399
Speaker 5: That cost Yeah, that costs money.

1042
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 3: Everybody else gets paid because you gotta remember they charged

1043
00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: and y'all back out, y'all little percentage that shall it

1044
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: might be making six seven dollars over here, but no,

1045
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 3: that's that's ours right here.

1046
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 1: You ain't recruiting.

1047
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:31,160
Speaker 5: We had to mail that contract over to your lawyer's office. Yeah, man,

1048
00:49:31,239 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 5: that cost you for the stamps. This shit all right, man.

1049
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 5: Every time we had a courier when we was negotiating

1050
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,560
Speaker 5: the deal and the courier was taking the contract back

1051
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: and forth.

1052
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 1: We charged for that.

1053
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy as a motherfucker.

1054
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 5: Oh, you came up here and had a meeting and

1055
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 5: had a meal and some lunch and all that shit.

1056
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 3: Ten thousand dollars we charged you for that shit? Ten thousand?

1057
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 3: Do they eating good off of y'all? So y'all do

1058
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: this one album? Man? It's going good? Yeah? Why didn't

1059
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 3: you and Crawford? I always wanted to ask you this?

1060
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:12,160
Speaker 3: And I never asked because you know, I see is

1061
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 3: a good friend of mine. I'm pretty sure you know that. Yes,

1062
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 3: why didn't y'all keep shit going? Man?

1063
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: Okay, you wanted the truth? You women to lie to you.

1064
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 5: I want the truth, man, This is the truth. We

1065
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 5: deal in the truth.

1066
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 3: Okay.

1067
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 4: I only share this one other time. I did two

1068
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 4: interviews with Sore and Baker, and on the second one

1069
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 4: I expressed this. Now it's all love with me and

1070
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 4: Crawford today, okay, But back then, I kind of want

1071
00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: to blame it on that. Maybe he was young, you know,

1072
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 4: because he was young when he wrote a lot of

1073
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 4: those songs.

1074
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: He was sixteen years old.

1075
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: And so I was notified by A and R, by

1076
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 4: a lady named Rachel Matthews, and she hit me up

1077
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 4: and told me, hey, for this second album, we're gonna

1078
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 4: need you to step to the side. And I said,

1079
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 4: why what happened? And he goes, well, and she now

1080
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 4: Crawford denied it. Okay, but she goes, well, he doesn't

1081
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 4: want you to be a part of this record anymore.

1082
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1083
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: Now we were signed as artists, we weren't signed as

1084
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 4: a group. So and I said, okay, so what do

1085
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 4: you want me to do? She goes, I'll give you

1086
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 4: some remixes to make. They had just signed Queen. So

1087
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 4: I was doing remixes, you know, for Queen and other stuff,

1088
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 4: and you know, I felt I felt fucked up. I'll

1089
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 4: be honest you because because when I met him, I

1090
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 4: met him at the Swamp Me.

1091
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 5: So y'all got the deal together. Yes, y'all signed the

1092
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,440
Speaker 5: Hollywood record deal together.

1093
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 3: Yes, yes.

1094
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: And what happened was, you know, we met at the

1095
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 4: swan Me. I put him on the mixtapes, you know,

1096
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 4: and that's what got his name out there. We ended

1097
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 4: up getting signed because of that production that I did

1098
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,399
Speaker 4: on those mixtapes. And then to be told later on,

1099
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 4: you know, he doesn't want you on this record, you know.

1100
00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,279
Speaker 4: So I was like, all right, cool then Buck, I

1101
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 4: got us here and now I'm getting the.

1102
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,319
Speaker 1: Boot, you know.

1103
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: So I was like, all right, cool whatever Crosse said.

1104
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,799
Speaker 3: He didn't say that, right, He told me he didn't

1105
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 3: say that. Okay, what me knowing Croft and this ain't

1106
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 3: me the femling you but I think he'd have probably

1107
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,720
Speaker 3: told you that hisself. Like Cross ain't a foul dude,

1108
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 3: like right now, I don't think he is. But I

1109
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 3: will say this that during that time, he never even

1110
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,480
Speaker 3: talked to me. As a matter of fact, they give him.

1111
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 4: Like a record uh he did half He had like

1112
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 4: maybe like twelve songs, and they give him like a

1113
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 4: two hundred and forty thousand dollars like.

1114
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 3: Budget.

1115
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 4: So Rachel Matthews calls me and tells me, maybe like

1116
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 4: months later, she said, hey, listen, he's turned into all

1117
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: his record and we're just not feeling it. We're actually

1118
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 4: you know, giving him advance on royalties now because he

1119
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 4: wasted all the money. So we want you to come

1120
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 4: back in and produce, you know.

1121
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:54,880
Speaker 3: Some songs.

1122
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: So I said, you're gonna have to talk to my

1123
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 4: manager Whichell Steve at the time, because I didn't want

1124
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 4: to deal with her and because she's the one that

1125
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,520
Speaker 4: told me the so called bad news, you know. So

1126
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 4: Steve goes, what do you want? And I said, I

1127
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 4: want for six songs. I want sixty thousand dollars and

1128
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: I want to sell all my publishing and I want

1129
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 4: another sixty thousand. And he said, okay, well they didn't

1130
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 4: give me sixty for publishing. They just give me thirty.

1131
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 4: So I made a good chunk of chains. I produced

1132
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: the songs. He okayed them. I told Steve I don't

1133
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 4: want him in there when I'm tracking them. I'll just

1134
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 4: produce them. I'll leave and I did it. That's how

1135
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: it happened. And then I get a call the night

1136
00:53:30,600 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 4: before the video shoot for a song called got It

1137
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 4: Like That that I produced and my song was going

1138
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 4: to be the first single. Well it was the first single.

1139
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:39,719
Speaker 4: He said, I just wanted to let you know, bro

1140
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 4: the high Steed ever call you and I go no.

1141
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 4: He goes, well, we shouldn't do a video tomorrow, and

1142
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: you see no, And I said, oh okay, I said

1143
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 4: I'm going to show up. And I just showed up so,

1144
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 4: but we didn't talk for a long time, bro, like

1145
00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 4: for a long time. But now it's all love. We

1146
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 4: put all that shit behind us, you know, we talked.

1147
00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 4: Of course, he told me that he never said that,

1148
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 4: but I just told him, bro, it doesn't make you

1149
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 4: look good when you don't talk to me for years,

1150
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 4: you know.

1151
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 3: And that's gonna tell you what It was me being

1152
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 3: in the business and I would see them people in

1153
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 3: them offices get these bright ideas because see they don't

1154
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 3: know the connection that we have with the people we

1155
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 3: making music with, right, but they can see a vision

1156
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: and they think they overthink shit when it comes to marketing, right.

1157
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: I guarantee you that the chick that was delivering you

1158
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 3: the messages was the main one telling him that you

1159
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 3: should probably be by yourself, and pretty much told him, hey,

1160
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 3: we want you to do this by yourself. And we

1161
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 3: had lit and him, being as young as he was

1162
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: at the time, probably didn't know how to come and

1163
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 3: tell you.

1164
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: No, you know what. And I believe that I don't

1165
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 4: have nothing against Carper today, but that's just what happened then.

1166
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 3: Because I think if y'all, honestly, bro, I think if

1167
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: you all because y'all had something because we went out

1168
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: to Japan, me and Kraft and when he performed like

1169
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 3: he performed that whole album. Yeah, those people was an

1170
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 3: audience singing this ship like that. They don't speak to

1171
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 3: him this word for word, yeah, word for word, and

1172
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,319
Speaker 3: I always want that. I always wondered, like, why didn't

1173
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,239
Speaker 3: they keep that going because that was kind of like

1174
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: I think y'a would have wound up even just doing

1175
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 3: I think y'all would have sold even more albums the

1176
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 3: second one out.

1177
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,600
Speaker 4: I do believe that we had so many things going

1178
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 4: our way, Like, for an example, our first video looked

1179
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 4: like a damn fucking Godzilla movie. We filmed that shit

1180
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 4: at the Rodeo Swami and we had an Australian guy

1181
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 4: named Ian Fletcher come in. He did Quick Born and

1182
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: Raising Compton a video, so I think Crawford thought it

1183
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 4: was a good idea, get the same guy. This guy

1184
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,919
Speaker 4: didn't know shit. This guy was when Ted ass leather

1185
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 4: pants were no drawls out there at the Rodium and

1186
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,120
Speaker 4: it's a knotty degrees out there and he's filming us

1187
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 4: with some bullshit as cameras. We spend like twenty five

1188
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 4: thousand on that video. It was shitty, Okay. So when

1189
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 4: then we made two young cats, I think they're twenty

1190
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 4: twenty one years old. We mete him at Disney. They

1191
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 4: want to produce our next song called Leave My Curls Alone. Okay,

1192
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 4: And you know who they were bro when I became

1193
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 4: good friends with them all throughout the nineties. I haven't

1194
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,359
Speaker 4: talked to him in years. The he was brothers oh

1195
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 4: Albert and Allen, and this was the first video that

1196
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,840
Speaker 4: they were gonna direct. So we did at the Venice

1197
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 4: Beach and then after that we did Sitting in the Park,

1198
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,200
Speaker 4: and then after that they went into second to nine

1199
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,920
Speaker 4: Nam J's and then some stuff with you guys. And

1200
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:16,879
Speaker 4: this is one thing that a lot of people didn't know.

1201
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,600
Speaker 4: And this is where I fucked up, because I could

1202
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,320
Speaker 4: have been a part of a classic movie. They wanted

1203
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,480
Speaker 4: me to have a small scene in Minister Society. They

1204
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,919
Speaker 4: mailed me the you know, the script and everything, and

1205
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 4: I just didn't show up.

1206
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 3: Why because I was stupid. You was on that shit.

1207
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: You was young. I still think about music shit and

1208
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 3: mad at the world, like fuck that I'm.

1209
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 4: Not going well like Steve, he had got me ten

1210
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 4: day tour in Germany, another ten days in Australia, Canada

1211
00:56:46,120 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 4: and Japan to go DJ by myself, like this was

1212
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 4: separate from high seat. They wanted me to go on

1213
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 4: a DJ tour and I'll be honest you man, I said,

1214
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 4: I'm the next one. How long is the flight? Oh,

1215
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 4: thirteen fourteen hours down? Good next time. And this is

1216
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 4: one thing that I want to share to the younger

1217
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 4: generation is that when those opportunities come, take them, because

1218
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 4: they may never come back again, and they never came

1219
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 4: back again.

1220
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 5: I was the same way. My father was like let's

1221
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 5: go over seas, and I'd be like that shit, I'd

1222
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 5: be dreading it, but then I just pushed myself to

1223
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,400
Speaker 5: do it. Fuck it because like you said, you never

1224
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 5: knowing that opportunity gonna come back around again. As much

1225
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 5: as I hate, you know, traveling and doing all that shit,

1226
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 5: fuck it. I just came back from Europe. I was

1227
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,959
Speaker 5: over there for two weeks. No man, I started going

1228
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 5: to Europe, and I think, like ninety four, man.

1229
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:43,680
Speaker 3: The reception over there is just so much more grand

1230
00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,440
Speaker 3: than in hers. Over if you'd have went, dudes, you

1231
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 3: would have been you wouldn't have regretted that you would

1232
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 3: have had the time in your life.

1233
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I regretted I'm being in that moomy. He called me, goes,

1234
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 4: how come we didn't show up? And I was like, honestly, bo,

1235
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 4: can we just like do it tomorrow? And he was like, no,

1236
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 4: We're not gonna do it tomorrow. You know what's seen

1237
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 4: I was sup supposed to get. It was a small scene.

1238
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,560
Speaker 4: You just had a dude here not too long ago.

1239
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,000
Speaker 4: The guy that was in the movie. Yes, remember he

1240
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 4: went and took his five pointz to that one guy

1241
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,360
Speaker 4: that changed his license plates and the mechanic calls the

1242
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:12,920
Speaker 4: man and he goes, I change it and go shut up.

1243
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 5: That was supposed to be me Mexican and way picked

1244
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: the car up.

1245
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:20,840
Speaker 3: Press that part right. That had been for you man.

1246
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 3: That had been a crazy movie man, Yeah, that would

1247
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 3: have been crazy.

1248
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 1: Bro.

1249
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:27,960
Speaker 3: Let me tell you one thing. If they watch d KK,

1250
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 3: I love you guys, quick, I love you guys. Crap,

1251
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 3: I love you guys.

1252
00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 4: That were all pissed at Albert and Allen because they

1253
00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 4: never got a call for that for a part, but

1254
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,720
Speaker 4: they did. Albert Allen did tell them I'm gonna get

1255
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 4: you a part in the movies, and they never got

1256
00:58:41,240 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 4: their script. So they were man for a long time

1257
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,440
Speaker 4: because I got mine.

1258
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,440
Speaker 3: And they never got it. No, they never did. You

1259
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 3: never got it. So cool. I want to ask you

1260
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 3: this though, you being independent you know right now, you know,

1261
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,880
Speaker 3: running your program the way you do, because the way

1262
00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 3: you do your stuff, I actually want to holler at

1263
00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 3: you about, you know, trying to kind of get in

1264
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 3: the blueprint of that, because that's where I think everything

1265
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 3: should be getting right right.

1266
00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 5: Do you.

1267
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 3: Think the major label is obsolete right now?

1268
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: Absolutely? You know this is the reign that they're independent.

1269
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 6: You know, point zeril five versus getting nineteen twenty dollars

1270
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 6: to your own personal website is a big difference.

1271
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just my opinion, you know what I mean,

1272
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong.

1273
00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: It is because you got people that don't pick your concept.

1274
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 3: You know, I heard Kanye on the giving one of

1275
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 3: his rants. I see my CDs on my website and

1276
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 3: I made two million dollars already, and I was thinking,

1277
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 3: I said, man, that shits like the same shit Coco

1278
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 3: been doing for the past.

1279
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:49,360
Speaker 1: For seventeen years.

1280
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 5: Friends, you know, you got true loyal fans and people

1281
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 5: who really enjoy good music. They'll buy your CD yeah, because.

1282
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: You don't sew, you don't saw quite. If you see

1283
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,760
Speaker 3: these eight, definitely do the thing. And I think that's

1284
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 3: the way. I think that's the way to go. Now, man,

1285
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 3: Is there any way? Man? And I'm gonna try to

1286
01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 3: facilitate this, you know me, I'm the manager. There ain't

1287
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,480
Speaker 3: a manager always trying to hook something up, right. I

1288
01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 3: think if you and high Sea got together and did

1289
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 3: the album today, I think it would sell. Bro. I

1290
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 3: think I knew it would. Bro.

1291
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,360
Speaker 4: I would love to Man and Crawford, if you're listening, Bro,

1292
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 4: I would love to. We had to talk about this

1293
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 4: about three years ago. I had brought it up to

1294
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: him and he goes, who's gonna produce it? And I said,

1295
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: I will, you know, and he goes, well, I want

1296
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 4: some production too, And I said, okay, but I am

1297
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 4: going to be calling the shots on this record, but

1298
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 4: if we do it, I'm producing it, you know. And

1299
01:00:41,360 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 4: he was like, okay, well we'll see. We never got

1300
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: around to it, and then when it came around to

1301
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 4: discussing business, you know, I just didn't like it. Just recently,

1302
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 4: I called up my good friend Bobby D. Bobby D

1303
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 4: presents the promoter, and I said, I mean, how see

1304
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 4: got back together again? And he said, okay, cool, let

1305
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 4: me know, I'll put your guys on everything. So we're

1306
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 4: gonna start doing shows in the next month.

1307
01:01:01,080 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 3: You know that'll be good man, gain me, y'all. It's

1308
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,720
Speaker 3: just certain groups, like it's dope seeing Cocaine with a

1309
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: bud of law when y'all all together. You feel what

1310
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 3: I mean. It was dope seeing you and Sugar Free

1311
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 3: through that project because I had been waiting. That was

1312
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,680
Speaker 3: like a mythical album. I've been waiting for that forever

1313
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 3: for y'all to do something. You know, it's dope seeing

1314
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 3: you I see together. It's dope seeing you with seeing

1315
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:25,720
Speaker 3: up like when you and she are doing y'all shit

1316
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 3: is dope. But I think what it is, man, I

1317
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 3: tell you what the group shit. Man. It's always having

1318
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 3: to depend on other people that get your work done. Dog,

1319
01:01:38,320 --> 01:01:43,640
Speaker 3: it's a motherfucker right, And it's always people like for example,

1320
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,440
Speaker 3: the homie Chill, he could never really get his just

1321
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: do because he was always locked up. You know, he

1322
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 3: always had something going on. You see what I'm saying.

1323
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 3: So eight had to carry that whole load. You feel

1324
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. And I saw it because I told eight.

1325
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 3: I said, for the longest I thought his name was

1326
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 3: but Comped the most wanting was like an Aliens or

1327
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 3: something like that. I thought, but his name was comp

1328
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 3: this most wanting. I'm comp this most wanting because I'd

1329
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: be like, damn, it's this dude. Man. It got a group.

1330
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: I don't never see nobody else, but don't rap here

1331
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 3: nobody else being rapping, right. And then when you was

1332
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 3: doing this shit with a bud of law, I saw

1333
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,640
Speaker 3: you doing shit with so many people. I was like,

1334
01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:22,040
Speaker 3: where is this life? Like wife like is he a

1335
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:22,960
Speaker 3: solo artist?

1336
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 5: What is that?

1337
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 3: And when I saw y'all, it was just so unique

1338
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: because you had never seen a black dude what a

1339
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:30,720
Speaker 3: Mexican do? And then for the launches, I thought, I

1340
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,520
Speaker 3: ain't gonna lie. I thought Crawl was Mexican half everybody did.

1341
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 3: Everybody did, so uh.

1342
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 4: We used to do meet and greets or like in

1343
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 4: stores and girls like we would be like San Diego,

1344
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: all Mensican girls, So you're Mexican And he was like, no,

1345
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:45,120
Speaker 4: are you half?

1346
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 3: No? They were like, well, what are you? I'm black?

1347
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 4: He had a long ass. Jerry Curl Wet Juicy Jerry

1348
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 4: Curl and I'm like, I don't know when they get

1349
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:56,880
Speaker 4: up there, you're Medsican. But what it was on a

1350
01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 4: couple of songs he said some Spanish words and he said,

1351
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 4: I'm really good, you know, like he said, ching got

1352
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 4: to Madre the way he's supposed to say it, And

1353
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:07,680
Speaker 4: everybody thought, for some reason, whenever he was whenever he

1354
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 4: would say that, the crowd would go crazy. So when

1355
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,240
Speaker 4: they would meet him, are you have Mexican? And I go, bro,

1356
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 4: if you're trying to get laid, just say yes, just

1357
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 4: say yes, you know you know? And that was it, man.

1358
01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:22,080
Speaker 4: But me and Kraft had a lot of fun. My

1359
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,960
Speaker 4: best time on the road was when it was us,

1360
01:03:25,720 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 4: Me and high See Second to None, AMG and Quick

1361
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 4: in nineteen ninety and we did a Texas tour and

1362
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 4: I was spending for all of them and we still

1363
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 4: have videos of those. Man, it was, oh bro, it was.

1364
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,680
Speaker 4: It was on and cracking. Row, it was on and cracking.

1365
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 4: But there were there were eagles. And I will say

1366
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,960
Speaker 4: it because I won't say who we were to Texas

1367
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: and then they will say this song is bigger than

1368
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,800
Speaker 4: all you guys right now. Then we would go up North.

1369
01:03:51,120 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 4: This song from this group is bigger.

1370
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 3: So everywhere we.

1371
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 4: Went, the promoter wanted one of us to headline. And

1372
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:00,280
Speaker 4: there was always one guy that had a problem with Know.

1373
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:01,760
Speaker 3: Who the fuck that is. I ain't even gonna say

1374
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,480
Speaker 3: his name, but y'all know who that was already.

1375
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, he goes, I'm not even going I'm not even

1376
01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 4: gonna rap. Then they want to see you, and I'm.

1377
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 3: Like, okay, I already know where that is. Yeah, come

1378
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 3: on with this, man. I always wanted to ask you

1379
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 3: this cocaine. I know you're not gonna answer, man. I

1380
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 3: know you're not going to answer it, man, but I'm

1381
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,439
Speaker 3: gonna ask you. Ain't even wake it. That's my job.

1382
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:31,080
Speaker 3: When you were with Ruthless Records, right, and the whole

1383
01:04:31,120 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 3: thing was going down with the Easy, Right, you know,

1384
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 3: the whole thing, the whole war with death Row and

1385
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: all that stuff, right, and we might have went over

1386
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,440
Speaker 3: this last show if we did. Forgive me, if we

1387
01:04:41,720 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: you know, forgive me. But I've heard things. Man, Easy

1388
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:50,320
Speaker 3: was a little bit into some dark shit, a little

1389
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:50,760
Speaker 3: bit with him.

1390
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna answer that. I mean, rap is dark period.

1391
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: Just put it like that. So basically all the gangster ship.

1392
01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 3: Is it is dark because people had this and I.

1393
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:06,439
Speaker 1: Respectfully said it, Oh.

1394
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 3: No, because I'm just saying it's to lead up to something.

1395
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,439
Speaker 3: There's always been this thing that should just went over

1396
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 3: there and tore a ship up. They just did that.

1397
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: I don't think Easy had a lot of weight behind him,

1398
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:23,240
Speaker 3: and he wasn't no punk, not at all.

1399
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 6: I mean the n w A movie, don't get depict

1400
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 6: him him driving down the street, you know, I mean

1401
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 6: that's that.

1402
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, that kind of pissed me off.

1403
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,280
Speaker 1: Eric had guz, he had bazookas.

1404
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 6: You know.

1405
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: Eric was a gangster, He was a gaster.

1406
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,960
Speaker 3: He had some ship behind him. What you would expect

1407
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 3: here what he wasn't playing.

1408
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 5: And that's what I gotta tell niggas. This ship all

1409
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 5: the day. Niggas was hood niggas before they was rapping. Man,

1410
01:05:56,120 --> 01:06:01,000
Speaker 5: that rap ship was just just came along, just like nigga.

1411
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 5: I'm on the corner selling dope. Nigga'm gonna flip these

1412
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 5: motherfucking records and make me some money. But nigga, I've

1413
01:06:07,120 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 5: always been from Timton. It was a gang banged nigga.

1414
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,200
Speaker 5: That shit was always present.

1415
01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 3: And I wanted to ask you that broke because I

1416
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 3: know how political shit is. But all that stuff, you know,

1417
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 3: they show him in the movie like should it just come?

1418
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 3: They just smashed on them, And I'm like, man, I

1419
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 3: don't know if that happened necessarily just like that.

1420
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 6: I mean, how do they know that happens by it hearing nine?

1421
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 6: It's it's it's much more.

1422
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: To the poet than me died.

1423
01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 6: When it comes to the Rupeless story, you know, you

1424
01:06:36,280 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 6: can't just tell it in one movie. It has to

1425
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 6: be twelve series. You know, That's how deep it was.

1426
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 6: And Eric was connected.

1427
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1428
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 6: You know a lot of people talk about Jerry Hiller.

1429
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 6: He was an important part of Rupeless, like it or not,

1430
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:54,400
Speaker 6: because it was the Jewish lag and you know, Jews

1431
01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 6: run the game. You know. Now it's independent and no

1432
01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:00,680
Speaker 6: matter what color are, you can do your thing. But

1433
01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:04,200
Speaker 6: you know, he you know, Jerry Heller was a significant

1434
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:07,000
Speaker 6: part of Easy to Get Down, you know what I mean.

1435
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:11,720
Speaker 6: So you know with those two, you know, him them

1436
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 6: being a real gangster, you know what I'm saying, and Easy,

1437
01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:19,600
Speaker 6: you know, Jerry Heller having that connection is the reason

1438
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 6: why JG. Fad Record blew up all those records of

1439
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 6: Rubless records blew up, so he was an important.

1440
01:07:26,560 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: Part of the Rubless tree. Like him or not, Jerry Heller,

1441
01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,560
Speaker 1: he was man.

1442
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 3: Actually, you know what, I don't think he get the

1443
01:07:34,040 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 3: credit he ever deserved, because of course everybody wants to

1444
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 3: paint the picture that you know, he came in and

1445
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,600
Speaker 3: took all the ends, which may have been true, may

1446
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 3: not have been true. I don't know, you know what

1447
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 3: I mean. But that's the big thing when you think

1448
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:48,200
Speaker 3: about Jerry Hiller. When people hear Jerry Hiller's name, they

1449
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,959
Speaker 3: always want to say, well, he the one that did

1450
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 3: this and did that. What really, when you look at

1451
01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: the numbers man that people talk about what they was

1452
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:58,760
Speaker 3: getting their contract, they was just kind of industry standard. Yeah,

1453
01:07:58,920 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 3: at the time, that's what it was, you know what

1454
01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:03,160
Speaker 3: I mean. It's like I think people that when they

1455
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: think about the business, especially back then, when you say

1456
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:08,920
Speaker 3: you go put somebody's record out, man, and you on

1457
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 3: the label, you're committing to spending the least four to

1458
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand dollars dog or something. You may not

1459
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 3: get your money back on. How many times have we

1460
01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 3: seen people have these big, massive rollouts, especially when the

1461
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 3: sound scan and the physical shit used to be around.

1462
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 3: And you see a mother for the seven hundred thousand

1463
01:08:25,560 --> 01:08:28,599
Speaker 3: units the first week out right. It used to happen

1464
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:32,840
Speaker 3: dog So for every for every time the label roll

1465
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 3: the dice, that's what they doing, They rolling the dice.

1466
01:08:35,680 --> 01:08:37,800
Speaker 3: They just hoping it hit. I mean, they come.

1467
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 6: You know, this is the music industry. It's a corrupt business.

1468
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,320
Speaker 6: It just started off. Corruption started off mob, you know

1469
01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:47,439
Speaker 6: what I mean. So there were times where you know,

1470
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 6: mob would come in and double dip, steal records and

1471
01:08:51,439 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 6: then sell the records back to the actual company. It

1472
01:08:54,439 --> 01:08:57,599
Speaker 6: was a lot of twisted shit going on. Artists wasn't

1473
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:01,640
Speaker 6: getting paid correctly. It was only needled in the haystacks

1474
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,599
Speaker 6: of artists that was actually getting paid, you know. But

1475
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:08,160
Speaker 6: the good thing going with Ease is that we all

1476
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,400
Speaker 6: had a chance to learn that imprint of real independence,

1477
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. He showed us how, you know,

1478
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 6: don't compromise your artistry, your creativity. There's a way that

1479
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,639
Speaker 6: you can utilize controversy to your advantages, because you learned

1480
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 6: it from the Izy Osbourne by biting up Betty Edge

1481
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,880
Speaker 6: and whatever controversy sales. And he picked up on that

1482
01:09:33,520 --> 01:09:35,960
Speaker 6: and he just you know, we were fortunate to have

1483
01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 6: Jerry Heller coming from that time. He was the biggest

1484
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 6: booking agent in Canada, booking casts like Elton John led Zeppelin,

1485
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,000
Speaker 6: So he was already on the soil coming from Canada.

1486
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,840
Speaker 6: So when those two hooked up, it was it was

1487
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 6: a business marriage. That you know, is the reason why

1488
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:56,879
Speaker 6: we all here, tell you the truth. You know, because

1489
01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,680
Speaker 6: those records, everything it's based upon when it come off

1490
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:06,000
Speaker 6: the tree death row fifty cent, even us participating at

1491
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 6: this table, it depends on the success of Proofus records.

1492
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: Period.

1493
01:10:12,680 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1494
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 5: No, so we don't have no direction of motherfucking music.

1495
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:22,599
Speaker 5: Motherfucking you know, like niggas get a little bud hurt

1496
01:10:22,760 --> 01:10:27,360
Speaker 5: when I say we was all fucking techno records and shit,

1497
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,559
Speaker 5: you know, yeah.

1498
01:10:30,400 --> 01:10:31,800
Speaker 1: That was the Macola days too.

1499
01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 5: I mean we was West Coast music was techno like

1500
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 5: a motherfucker.

1501
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 1: Egyptian lover, and you.

1502
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:42,000
Speaker 5: We got our dose of rap hip hop from the

1503
01:10:42,040 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 5: East Coast. Listen, you know, getting them East Coast records

1504
01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,559
Speaker 5: and shit is how I got turned out. But it

1505
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:54,439
Speaker 5: still wasn't uh representation of what we were doing.

1506
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 6: You do what the Ironic Party is, brother, and not

1507
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 6: to cut you off. The ironic party is is that

1508
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 6: you know, East Coast was telling us, man, y'all did this,

1509
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 6: but wait a minute, when we heard Scotland Rode, Yeah,

1510
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:15,200
Speaker 6: when we heard even the Run DMC, Justice, Koozi Rap Rock,

1511
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 6: Kim School he d we was banging. Yeah, we were

1512
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:25,920
Speaker 6: banging off day music. And then ironically it's the tables turn.

1513
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:30,759
Speaker 6: Now we affect the whole culture. You see people low riding, crips,

1514
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,320
Speaker 6: bloods out there. So it was in exchange.

1515
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: You know.

1516
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 6: It started out in New York, but then we took

1517
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:42,559
Speaker 6: it over here and with the exception what you know,

1518
01:11:42,720 --> 01:11:47,479
Speaker 6: Easy he did, we it sprouted our worldwide because you

1519
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 6: had groups like yourself, King T of course, Mixed Master Spade,

1520
01:11:52,240 --> 01:11:53,439
Speaker 6: Toddy T and all those.

1521
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:57,960
Speaker 5: I got my first dose of experience of a hood

1522
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 5: shit from listening to Todd Spade and all the mixtape

1523
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 5: and walking.

1524
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:05,120
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, you know.

1525
01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 5: So that was my first experience of of our our

1526
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 5: transition into hip hop. Easy showed that nigga that we

1527
01:12:17,240 --> 01:12:22,000
Speaker 5: could be a run DMC or LL core. You getting

1528
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:27,479
Speaker 5: as Easy started putting out those records, niggas was only

1529
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 5: pushing on cassette tapes, right, right, Easy went out and said,

1530
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 5: fuck that, I'm gonna go talk about you know, niggas

1531
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:41,040
Speaker 5: in the neighborhood, and I'm gonna put a record out.

1532
01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:45,280
Speaker 5: We didn't know that was possible. Everything was East Coast,

1533
01:12:45,400 --> 01:12:48,360
Speaker 5: you get me. You knew niggas was making rap records.

1534
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 5: But like I said, my first ship was listening to

1535
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 5: Todd Nimmo.

1536
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely come out at night and ship like that.

1537
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 5: So that was my first like, damn niggas is busting

1538
01:13:03,160 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 5: about what's going on in the neighborhood. When Easy came out,

1539
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 5: it was like a you go poke your chest out

1540
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 5: because this nigga got an actual record, right. I know

1541
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,880
Speaker 5: about nixtapes and consent tapes and shit because I got

1542
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,920
Speaker 5: a gang government at the house in my in my boombox.

1543
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 1: But this nigga actually put a motherfucking record out.

1544
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:28,200
Speaker 5: So that made you start thinking.

1545
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 6: Shit and nice tea too, of course, right, you know what,

1546
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 6: but just look at what they lay the foundation for it.

1547
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 3: Because when you talk about cities, when you talk about

1548
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 3: like cities that produce good hip hop, right, Compton, California

1549
01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 3: is in that conversation right now, And that was the

1550
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:48,160
Speaker 3: roundwork that was laid you know way back then they

1551
01:13:48,240 --> 01:13:50,920
Speaker 3: ate from you to where like it seemed like every

1552
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,920
Speaker 3: time Kendrick dropping verse, every time Dot drop a verse,

1553
01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 3: it's like he shaked the whole universe.

1554
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,240
Speaker 1: Up right right.

1555
01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 3: You can tell you know me knowing them, I know

1556
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 3: he just jabbing right now. That's the cold thing about it.

1557
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,240
Speaker 3: He just jabbing. He waiting for the response. We can

1558
01:14:05,240 --> 01:14:07,439
Speaker 3: come on and come with the bean. You feel what

1559
01:14:07,479 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying because I know that kid man so Compton

1560
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 3: just like Southern California as a whole, You can't you

1561
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 3: know this ain't me no sleeping on the Bay or

1562
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 3: nothing like that, but Southern California as a whole, there's

1563
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:19,720
Speaker 3: a monster when it comes to hip hop. And when

1564
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 3: you talk about Long Beach Compton, you know, the south

1565
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 3: central Los Angeles, y'all just laid the crown works for everything.

1566
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:32,160
Speaker 3: Many Pomona, Yeah, Pomona. A lot of people don't know Pomona.

1567
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 3: A lot of people like the group Pomona in with

1568
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:36,200
Speaker 3: the Only Empire, but it's not. It's the last city

1569
01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 3: in La County. That's right, that's the last city in

1570
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:41,479
Speaker 3: La County. And it's ruthless as the fuck out there.

1571
01:14:42,360 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 6: I'm trying to tell you, Hey, I'm gonna have to

1572
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 6: get on this road, gentlemen, and I appreciate y'all having

1573
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 6: me because I got to get up extremely area.

1574
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 3: Well we could walk out the door together. Man, Let's

1575
01:14:52,920 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: talk about let's talk about this new project.

1576
01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:59,080
Speaker 1: Well, this is called The Funking the Benches of Doctor Kukenstein.

1577
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 6: It's a three hour trilogy for your audience out there,

1578
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 6: and it's going back to the soil. You know, we're

1579
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 6: pushing CDs, were pushing vinoch we got you know, vintage

1580
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:16,519
Speaker 6: cansette tapes, but it's USB's USB yeah, pulls out and

1581
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,720
Speaker 6: it's thirty seven slappers on there, you know what I mean.

1582
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 6: And we did our homework on there. It's live music.

1583
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 6: It's it's the essence of gfunk, you know, in p Fault.

1584
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:31,280
Speaker 6: It got gangster stuff, it got substantive music on there,

1585
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,720
Speaker 6: talking about some because I believe it's storytelling. We come

1586
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,200
Speaker 6: from the era where we people love storyteller, you know

1587
01:15:38,240 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 6: what I mean. So's it's getting back to the roots again.

1588
01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 6: And the good thing about it. It's on my personal

1589
01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:48,880
Speaker 6: website at www dot buddyboy music dot com because over

1590
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 6: the years I've been building up a substantial amount of

1591
01:15:52,439 --> 01:15:55,439
Speaker 6: people because direct marketing is the most important thing for

1592
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:00,240
Speaker 6: independent So now you know we reached that pinnacle I

1593
01:16:00,280 --> 01:16:04,720
Speaker 6: believe and getting the people and uh, it dropped on

1594
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:08,519
Speaker 6: my c day, March tenth, and you know, not the standard.

1595
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 6: I can put it out when I won't, but being

1596
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 6: playing the Devil's advocate at the same time, we also

1597
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,800
Speaker 6: use the streaming platforms, but we don't put full less

1598
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 6: albums on there.

1599
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 3: No more.

1600
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:25,680
Speaker 6: In order to get any cocaine album but now on

1601
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,720
Speaker 6: you got to go to my personal website at www

1602
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,160
Speaker 6: dot buddyboy music dot com and.

1603
01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,560
Speaker 3: We will have that hot link in the description and

1604
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: the show description. So make sure you go down there

1605
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,320
Speaker 3: and shake that out. And we can all leave out

1606
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:40,559
Speaker 3: the gether balls. Yeah, we can walk out as a family.

1607
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 1: You know what.

1608
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:45,040
Speaker 3: I'm absolutely man, tell me you gotta pop. You gotta pop

1609
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Speaker 3: in Live Screen Slash podcast Man the Roadium.

1610
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Speaker 4: The Ears win every Wednesday and Sunday. Every Wednesday and

1611
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 4: Sunday and on Fridays, I do my paranormal one.

1612
01:16:56,240 --> 01:16:59,640
Speaker 3: You do the paranorm about UFOs and spaceships, Bigfoot. You

1613
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 3: gotta you know I'm in all that ship. He won't

1614
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 3: let me talk about it on here, So you gotta

1615
01:17:03,439 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 3: add me on there one time to talk about that. Yeah.

1616
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,599
Speaker 4: Absolutely, that's That's what I've been doing.

1617
01:17:09,479 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Let him get down on here though.

1618
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1619
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:16,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, were family, so even let me talk about it.

1620
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,560
Speaker 3: But I'm into all that ship. Man, what time that

1621
01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 3: come on?

1622
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 4: Eight o'clock every Friday. I have a different podcast. It's

1623
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:26,640
Speaker 4: a called Freaky Tells. Freaky Tails Tells with a Z.

1624
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 3: He definitely wants to. I'm gonna be doing No, We're

1625
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:32,840
Speaker 3: not talking about no Diddy ship. Were talking about UFOs

1626
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Speaker 3: and big Foot and all.

1627
01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:35,919
Speaker 4: That stuff, man, Freaky Tails Podcasts.

1628
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1629
01:17:36,160 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 4: So, and then what we do. I bring up a topic,

1630
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 4: talk about it for about thirty to forty minutes, and

1631
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,400
Speaker 4: then I open up the calls. I get calls from everywhere.

1632
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Speaker 3: Ball Let's doe, man, I can't wait, man, you gotta

1633
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,960
Speaker 3: add me on it. Yeah, let's do it. Let's do it.

1634
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Speaker 5: You want to be on free I want to go

1635
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Speaker 5: in and talk about.

1636
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Speaker 3: All that man. Man, we appreciate man.

1637
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Speaker 4: We'll show YouTube channel Tony Vision.

1638
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Speaker 3: Tony Vision. Yeah, sure, you all go check the Brodie podcasts,

1639
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Speaker 3: South Man and Freaky Tails out over at Royal Vision

1640
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Speaker 1: Yeah that's www dot b u D.

1643
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Speaker 3: He isn't.

1644
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Speaker 1: Eric Boy Music dot com dot com.

1645
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Speaker 3: We appreciate y'all chilling out with us to night. Oh

1646
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Speaker 3: and not before we go, but for the people looking

1647
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Speaker 3: at the video, I know, y'all see these dominoes and stuff,

1648
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 3: we gonna start slapping. You know, I tried to give

1649
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:28,679
Speaker 3: him to slap some bombs night, but everybody was scared

1650
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Speaker 3: from Side Action you know, shout out at only some

1651
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Speaker 3: Side Action Gaming man. Make sure y'all hit him up

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Speaker 3: in Side Action Gaming dot com. Man, they got the

1653
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Speaker 3: ones man for the you know, for the ones that

1654
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Speaker 3: like to smoke, they little smoky smoke. They got a

1655
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Speaker 3: whole little package in here for you, so make sure

1656
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Speaker 3: you hit them up at Side Action Gaming dot com.

1657
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Speaker 3: Mention GC twenty p GC twenty in the cold, save

1658
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Speaker 3: twenty percent and we out of here. Good. Oh you

1659
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Speaker 3: know what before we go, shameless plug Gangster Chronicles dot

1660
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Speaker 3: net becoming a week. Were gonna have a lot of

1661
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Speaker 3: stuff that's gonna be the place where you can go,

1662
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 3: you know, to see all our videos. We're gonna give

1663
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 3: you some exclusive stuff on there and we go kind

1664
01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 3: of take that model what you've been doing, you know what,

1665
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,200
Speaker 3: the records and kind of like taking control of some

1666
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 3: of our visual content, just like you know, you want

1667
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,040
Speaker 3: to see this come over here. You know what I'm saying, right,

1668
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:18,759
Speaker 3: It's all about controlling the purse man exactly. And really

1669
01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,919
Speaker 3: really the biggest thing too is having a direct connection

1670
01:19:22,000 --> 01:19:24,799
Speaker 3: to your fans right to where they can connect directly

1671
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 3: to you and you can connected really to them because

1672
01:19:26,439 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 3: seeing you got to remember YouTube, you can have a

1673
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 3: milligan subscribers. You don't know where none of those people

1674
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,600
Speaker 3: at you can't get in touch with them unless they

1675
01:19:32,680 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 3: leave you a comment. And you probably like even see that.

1676
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:37,600
Speaker 3: You know, it's about just really touching the people. But

1677
01:19:37,680 --> 01:19:38,360
Speaker 3: we out of here.

1678
01:19:38,600 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: Oh good, let's love Jans the grind it go.

1679
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 3: Oh you know what, almost fucked up that voice you

1680
01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: hear every episode at the beginning. I guess that kind

1681
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: is one of your features, man, you and broken the

1682
01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:52,759
Speaker 3: podcast and all that shit.

1683
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:57,400
Speaker 6: Absolutely, man, I was happy to do that for my comrades, well,

1684
01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 6: my brothers.

1685
01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,280
Speaker 3: When I first got I remember here Brown, like we

1686
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 3: got cocaine on the intro. Ain't nobody gonna fuck be

1687
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,920
Speaker 3: able to fuck with us? You know what I'm saying.

1688
01:20:04,920 --> 01:20:05,519
Speaker 1: We gone

1689
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,759
Speaker 3: Lie, Let's get this, Let's get a stick.