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Speaker 1: Ridiculous crime. It's a production of I Heeart Radio. Hey Elizabeth, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Zaren you know what's ridiculous? I do. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: there's a project that was It's called the Museum of

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Speaker 1: Non Visible Art. Are you familiar with this? No, I've

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Speaker 1: never seen it. It's art that doesn't exist physically. It's

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Speaker 1: just what's imagined by the artist, and you can buy it.

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Speaker 1: You buy a card that has a description of this

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Speaker 1: this woman in she bought a piece called fresh Air

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Speaker 1: for ten dollars. What con Man created this? Well? I

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Speaker 1: love it. I'm going to tell you here's the description

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Speaker 1: of the art. A unique piece, only this one is

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Speaker 1: for sale. The art you are purchasing is like buying

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Speaker 1: an endless tank of oxygen. No matter where you are,

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Speaker 1: you always have the ability to take a breath of

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Speaker 1: the most delicious, mean smelling air that the Earth can produce.

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Speaker 1: It goes on, but I just don't want to read

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Speaker 1: it anyway. Um So do you know who the artist is?

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Speaker 1: Christo James Franco. Oh my god, I was close. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's pretty close. Christo James Franco. You know, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's ridiculous. That is mad ridiculous. So basically

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Speaker 1: not a very good storyteller though. Yeah. You ever read

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Speaker 1: Palo Alto his short story, any of the short stories? Yes,

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Speaker 1: And uh, that's all I got to say about that. Well,

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Speaker 1: I've got a story for you, miss, and I'm ready. Now.

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Speaker 1: This is a story of beloved American treasure Willie Nelson.

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Speaker 1: You know him, you love him? Yes, Well, this is

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Speaker 1: about the time he visited the White House and him

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Speaker 1: being Willie, he went up and said, hey, how do

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Speaker 1: number I want to heat up. Now, there's also another

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Speaker 1: story I gotta tell you, because this one is a

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Speaker 1: double It's about Whitlan and Willie. I love they're together.

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Speaker 1: I love them separately, but I love when they're together.

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Speaker 1: They're amazing together. Yeah, I mean they they're way better

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Speaker 1: than salt and pepper, chocolate and vanilla everything you can name.

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Speaker 1: This impairs Whalen and Willie on top of that mountain. Now,

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Speaker 1: the Whalen story, I'm going to tell you is about

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Speaker 1: this time that he bought a stolen bear. A bear yeah,

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Speaker 1: who was famous for eating a duffel bag of cocaine.

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Speaker 1: I can't Okay, you're ready, totally get ready, because here

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Speaker 1: comes some ridiculous stories of drug busts of my heroes

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Speaker 1: of Outlaw Country. This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about

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Speaker 1: absurd and outrageous capers, heights, and cons. It's all always

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Speaker 1: murder free and ridiculous. Elizabeth, do you remember the first

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Speaker 1: time that you smoked pot? No? Man, I have no

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Speaker 1: memory of it. No, well, I'll tell you this much.

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Speaker 1: Everyone is the first time, right j Willie Nelson? Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine or even just guess how old Willie Nelson

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Speaker 1: was when he first smoked pot? Pretty good? Guess, pretty good?

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Speaker 1: Guess much older than that, actually much older. Surprise. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's common knowledge. Willie was He was down in Texas

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Speaker 1: At that same time, he's not smoking pot. He's not

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Speaker 1: He's got his buddy, musician Fred Lockwin. Fred's like, hey, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, Elizabeth, he leaves you out of

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Speaker 1: It's Willie. He he may have just forgotten. We had

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Speaker 1: one out there, so White Saw. He gets bust to

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00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: White South. And here's Willie's a version of the story.

422
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,280
Speaker 1: I quote, I've been in California hanging out for a while,

423
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: and my bus had come out to pick me up

424
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:09,399
Speaker 1: because we had a couple of tour dates to do,

425
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: and I had forgotten that there was this little bag

426
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:13,119
Speaker 1: of weed on the bus that have been in the

427
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: back there for weeks. Naturally, when they stopped us, the

428
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:17,399
Speaker 1: dogs came on and the first thing they went to

429
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 1: was that little bag of pot back there. Now, how

430
00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: much do you think it was that little bag of

431
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: pot for him? A little? I don't know. So the

432
00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: sheriff of Hudspith County, which is where this location is,

433
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: his name is Arvin West, and Arvin West is a

434
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,720
Speaker 1: bit of a character. Yeah, he's a kind of local

435
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 1: Texas sheriff who says things like, quote, uh, he could

436
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,040
Speaker 1: get a hundred days in county jail, which if he does,

437
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make him cook and clean. He can wear

438
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 1: the stripy uniforms just like the other ones. Give me

439
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: a break. So Roscoe P. Cole change, Oh my god, completely.

440
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: So Willie wants to deal with this dude for a

441
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: little while because he gets released and then he tries

442
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:56,879
Speaker 1: to avoid having to go back to Hudspith. He's like,

443
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't even want to deal with that Marvin West

444
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:03,240
Speaker 1: mother again. But Judge Becky Dean Walker, she won't accept

445
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,280
Speaker 1: any mailed in plea agreements. She's like, I need to

446
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,080
Speaker 1: be hot on Willie to teach him a lesson, right,

447
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: because that's what you're gonna do. You're gonna teach this

448
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 1: old dog new tricks. We'll teach him a lesson. And

449
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,879
Speaker 1: I guess they're thinking that people will no one cares.

450
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 1: He's the scarecrow of pot. They want to use him

451
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,000
Speaker 1: to like send a message. All right, it's not what's

452
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: going to happen now. I was like, get him Willie,

453
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:24,880
Speaker 1: sending him lighters. So Judge Becky Dean Walker, she says

454
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: at the time, quote this is about the prosecutor whose

455
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,400
Speaker 1: name was Kurt bramblet Kurt Bramble. It was a fan

456
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: of Willie Nelson, which pissed the judge off because he's

457
00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: the prosecutor. So the judge tells him or actually tells

458
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,240
Speaker 1: the press about him, and I quote, he's supposed to

459
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,280
Speaker 1: file the charge he feels as appropriate, not what he

460
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,639
Speaker 1: feels he should do for his favorite singer. I like

461
00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: that voice now. To be fair, Kirk Bramblet had jokingly

462
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: offered that the county would like pretty much right off

463
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: all the charges against Willie Nelson if he would come

464
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,960
Speaker 1: into the court and sing for him blue Eyes Crying

465
00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 1: in the Rain. Worth it right now? County Commissioner Wayne West,

466
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,640
Speaker 1: Wayne West, and not to be confused with Arvin West,

467
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,239
Speaker 1: but I bet you they're related. Now, Wayne West, he

468
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: had another condition. He said, look, Willie Nelson comes back

469
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,000
Speaker 1: and he has to come back to deal with his charge.

470
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,800
Speaker 1: I'm going to insist that he listened to me sing

471
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,359
Speaker 1: one of my own songs. He had a sound cloud

472
00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 1: link he did, and he made Willie listen to it. Kid,

473
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: He played a song for Willie and someone, watch you

474
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 1: sit right there. We're like now just so embarrassed for

475
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:28,919
Speaker 1: him right now. If you feel like clapping along, just

476
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 1: clap along. This is a good Willie Nelson is too

477
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: kind hearted to say anything. So he's that kind hearted. Now.

478
00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: He sat there and he like clapped along or whatever

479
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 1: the guy asked for him, and then he got the

480
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:47,439
Speaker 1: hell out of county. So that was his final pot bust.

481
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,480
Speaker 1: And what number were we at Elizabeth? Was that six?

482
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 1: Very good? Very good? So we had Actually that was

483
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 1: his fifth. I'm sorry, I was very good. Maybe I

484
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,920
Speaker 1: do smoke just on the on the weekends. Well, now, Whalen,

485
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't a pot smoker. He's like, you didn't really

486
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: like the pot, but he's unlike you because what he

487
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: did like was cocaine. Oh yeah, he loved it. Yeah

488
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: he did. But that's why, well, you know, Whalon would

489
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 1: write songs like one of my favorite songs, this is

490
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: the title, I've always been crazy, but it's kept me

491
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,359
Speaker 1: from going insane. Right now, that's a Whalon song. It's

492
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:28,000
Speaker 1: a cocaine song. Now. And his autobiography, Whalon, he writes

493
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 1: rather extensively about how much he loves cocaine. And I

494
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,480
Speaker 1: read the autobiography and uh, let's just say there are

495
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 1: some choice quotes like that right now, like, for instance,

496
00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: detail stories about how he would wake up in the

497
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: middle of the night, go and start a line, smoke

498
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,119
Speaker 1: a cigarette, and then go back to bed, like he

499
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: couldn't make it through a night's sleep without having to go.

500
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like a little bump a rail. He's

501
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: doing two and three inch rail. Oh, god right. He

502
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: even said that he loved the taste of cocaine, because

503
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: he did. He liked the smell of it and the

504
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: taste of it. It It tastes like flour polish. It's terrible.

505
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: I'd the snort draino. I mean for the smell. I'm saying,

506
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: not for the birth now. Whaland also used to say

507
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: that he was a happy druggie. He was the happiest

508
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: druggie you ever saw, you know. But he's like, you know,

509
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm not one of those down er drug users right now.

510
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,720
Speaker 1: In his autobiography, he tells all these stories about how

511
00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: like he would regularly stay up for six seven days

512
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 1: on cocaine. That ain't easy, right, It's not like speed.

513
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 1: You gotta be doing like every twenty thirty minutes, So

514
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: every twenty thirty minutes for six days, seven days in

515
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: a row. He's, oh god, yeah, now. Waland also sit

516
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: up and he would smoke about five packs of cigarettes today.

517
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: Some accountant heard this and didn't believe him. It's like,

518
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: I've done the math and it is physically impossible for

519
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: you to smoke five packs of cigarettes today. Whalen's like,

520
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: not if you're a week exactly come on now, Doc.

521
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 1: So you asked about how much it would be to

522
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: be snorting so much cocaine. We didn't really ask, but

523
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,399
Speaker 1: you inferred that would be expensive. Wayland said in his

524
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,679
Speaker 1: autobiography and a quote at a hundred dollars a graham,

525
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: I was buying it twenty dollars a pop. You can't

526
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: keep everybody's habit up. And my intake was reaching fift

527
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 1: dollars a day. Wow. You may be wondering, how is

528
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: it possible to snort that much cocaine? Whalen and Whalen.

529
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: It's like, I got you, here's what you need to do.

530
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: So and I quote, I would snort half a graham

531
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 1: on one side of my nose and a half a

532
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 1: graham in the other shotgun in it at the top

533
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 1: of Most people's heads might have come off if they've

534
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: done that, I must have had the constitution of ten men.

535
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 1: Oh my god, do you know how much cocaine half

536
00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 1: a gram is doing it? One sitting he's like pouring

537
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 1: it in his ear like that could just in taking

538
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: a half gram of cocaine could probably put a lot

539
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 1: of people down, like literally just put them when it's

540
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, nope, Now once again, I've got to say,

541
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: to be very responsible, Whalen would not recommend you do cocaine.

542
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 1: He said, don't ever do cocaine. It's a terrible drug.

543
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: I agree with him. Cocaine has cost me friends. I

544
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: think it's a terrible drug. Do you want to do

545
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 1: a drug? Smoke pot? Be like Willie Nelson might pack.

546
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: In fact, I don't even really consider pot a drug.

547
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,920
Speaker 1: But we don't need to get into all that. But

548
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: Whalon used to say, I don't say any of us

549
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: to advocate drugs at all. I think drugs are killers. Ultimately,

550
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 1: they ruin your life, in the lives of the people

551
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: who love you. That's an important point to remember. And

552
00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 1: also the cocaine he was doing didn't have fetanel in it.

553
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: It didn't like, oh, one snort and you drop. So

554
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: this is also to keep in mind. Now I want

555
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 1: to tell you story of Whalen out smarting the day

556
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: you're ready, I'm ready. This story goes V. Seven. I'm

557
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 1: gonna keep you in the seventies for most of this

558
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: that I thought so Whalen's manner during By the way,

559
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: Whalen and Willi have the same manager and in the

560
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 1: n seventies seven, Willie figures out that his manager has

561
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: not been paying his taxes, and this is what's gonna actually,

562
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 1: I r s tapes. He has to record this in

563
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: the eighties to pay for his taxes. He finds his

564
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: out and he's like, what the hell And he goes

565
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,239
Speaker 1: to tell Whalon man that our manager is junk, right,

566
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: and so Whalen say, oh man, I'm already dealing with him.

567
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,360
Speaker 1: I got him trying to say he's trying to send

568
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: me cocaine down from New York because he says I'm

569
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,120
Speaker 1: spending too much on cocaine. So the same manager who's

570
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: not paying Willie's taxes is sending cocaine in the mail

571
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: to Whalon, right, So the guys just skirting the edge.

572
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 1: Eventually the guy gets busted this manager for the stuff

573
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: he does with Willie on the taxes, and then the

574
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: manager that there's this other manager, the assistant. He gets

575
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: caught up in this whole cocaine deal. I'm about to

576
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: tell you, And Willie is so impressed. When the guy

577
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 1: says I'm willing to take the charges for Whalon, he

578
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: makes him his manager. So it's just it's all country

579
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: logic here. Yeah, that's this is that's why it's called

580
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: outlawed country exactly. You know, so you're ready for some

581
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: real outlaw countries, please, Okay Whalen's managers. I told you

582
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: he's worried about how much Whalen is spending on cocaine

583
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: because he's spending thousands of dollars. He's worried about him

584
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: getting busted because he's buying cocaine from anybody who has

585
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: white powder, right, and he's traveling a lot, so he

586
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: doesn't always know where to get it. It It means he

587
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: has to go out to black markets and so forth.

588
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 1: He's putting himself at risk. He's like, look, I'll send

589
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: you some cocacaine from New York, right, So that's his

590
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: answer care package. This man can't send a check to

591
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: the I R S, but he can send a package

592
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: of he knows where to get cocaine, which I think

593
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: actually makes sense. So now Whalen has this right hand

594
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: man named Richie Albright. Richie Albright is going to be

595
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: all throughout this story. So when I say Richie or

596
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: Richie Allbright, that's what I'm talking. And uh, they're waiting

597
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: in the studio in Nashville, recording for his album that's

598
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: about to come out. He's also doing some tribute work

599
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: on a Hank Williams track, and so he's doing backing

600
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: vocals on the Hank Williams track whilsto recording his album,

601
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: and the cocaine is not arrived yet, and he's like

602
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: worried about and he's like telling Richie about it between takes,

603
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,120
Speaker 1: and Richie's like, well, you know, yeah, it'll come down,

604
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: don't don't worry about it, Austin, and he's like, man,

605
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I just really need that cocaine. And he's like yeah,

606
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: I know. So Richie's sitting there with him, he's in

607
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: and Whalen's like, man, I mean, I just don't know

608
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: when when it's gonna be down here. Richie's like, well,

609
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 1: how long has it been? Whale's like about three days.

610
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Richie's like, well that ain't good Haus because he knows

611
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: that cocaine should not take that long to get from

612
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: New York to Nashville. They eventually here from the delivery

613
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: Sir of us that the package has arrived was like

614
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: thank god. They send the secretary out to go get it.

615
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: She goes out to the airport picks it up. She

616
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 1: comes back, but she apparently does not see the d

617
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: e A agents following her back to the studio. That's

618
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: a dumb, dumb move. Yeah, I'm gonna go pick it

619
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: up from the airport. No oh, yeah, that stays unclaimed.

620
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 1: If they tell you to pick something up with the

621
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: air return to send. So here's how Whalen remembers it.

622
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: His secretary returns to the studio with the package of

623
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,320
Speaker 1: cocaine and I quote, and does it say in like

624
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: spray painted block letters, cocaine on the outside, not cocaine.

625
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: So I quote and this will answer your questions, it

626
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: said via World Courier Incorporated. I had an inkling of

627
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,719
Speaker 1: what it might be. I stuck the package under my arm,

628
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: and I walked into the studio area, setting the package

629
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: down on the music stand in front of my microphone.

630
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: I opened the wrapping. Inside I found a second package.

631
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 1: I cracked that open, and I took a quick peek,

632
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: long enough to ensure myself it contained packs of cocaine.

633
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: I put it on the music stand in and I

634
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: tucked my headphones back over my ears. But instead of

635
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: music coming over the headphones, I heard a crowd of people,

636
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: there was his voice saying, we followed a package that

637
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: came in here. We're from the Federal Drug Enforcement Agency.

638
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 1: What happened to the package the girls just delivered? Now,

639
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: Richie Albrights, he's working the sound board at this time.

640
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 1: Then Whalen is in the recording studio, so they're separated

641
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 1: by that clear glass window and they have to use

642
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: a microphone to speak to each other. Well, Richie kind

643
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: of leans over on the sound board it puts his

644
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: hand over the talk back microphone, so that now Whalen

645
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: can hear everything, and that's what he's hearing in his headphones.

646
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: But the d agents they're not sound people. They don't

647
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 1: know what's going on. They can't see Whalen. Therefore they

648
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: assume Whalen can't see them or hear them. Right, he

649
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: knows everything that's going down, right, So while the d

650
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: agents are hassling on Richie Albright, it's like, there ain't

651
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: no package here and we all need to get going.

652
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: We're working here right now. Richie Albright uh is really

653
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: insistent on this, and the d agents like, no, we

654
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 1: gotta we're down here for the package. And so Richie

655
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: Albright says, and I quote, well, okay, you guys got

656
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: a search warrant? They said no, but we can get one.

657
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 1: I said, okay, but while you're getting that search warrant,

658
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep working there because it's costing us two

659
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars an hour. I told the agent, y'all

660
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: just best be quiet now. So Whalen is like scrambling

661
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: what to do with the cocaine, and he knows he's

662
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 1: in there with him right he's but sitting the right

663
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: on his music stands. So he's like, can I get

664
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: all of it done? He's like, I can do five

665
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 1: pounds in lake seconds. How big a straw am I

666
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: gonna need to do all of this cocaine? So Whalen

667
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: and I quote he says, I grabbed that package from

668
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: the music stand and I threw it away behind me,

669
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: and I couldn't make that shot again in a million years.

670
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: It's slid under a baseboard by the wall, just as

671
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: pretty as you please. Now, Whalens finally ditched the cocaine,

672
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: and Richie sees this, so he tells Whalen that they

673
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: should get back to recording the song he's trying to

674
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 1: give him covers. He's like, hey, wait, wait, let's just

675
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: try it from the top. And so Whalen, without missing

676
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: a beat, he starts singing a song right now. Whalen says, quote,

677
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: Richie hit play and record and the tape started turning.

678
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: I did the harmony. It was a good take and

679
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: that was the harmony that we used on the record.

680
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: So Whalen's happy with the take. He comes into the

681
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: control booth and he's like, hey, Richie, play that one back,

682
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: turned up the music. Let me here are that sounds.

683
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 1: And so Richie does this, told hits the music. The

684
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: speakers come alive. The four or five D agents have

685
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: to listen to Whalen singing all loud in the speakers.

686
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: He sits down. Richie Albright leans over next to him

687
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: and he starts like pointing out the speakers like they're

688
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 1: talking about the music. He's like, do you know what's

689
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: going on? Whalen whispers back, hell, yeah, I know what's happening.

690
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 1: The D agents and now they don't know anything about

691
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: what these two are talking aboutcause they're waving their fingers.

692
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: They keep talking about they're talking about music. Right now.

693
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: He's like, Richie's like looking at him and say, hey, hoss,

694
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: I'll take this I'll take this one for you. I'm

695
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: taking it. And and Whalen's like what he tells what

696
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: he tells riche allbright, you ain't taken now, he assumes

697
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: his right hand man. Just be calm and don't let

698
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: them sons a bit. You scare you. So the two

699
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: of them have a plan. They're gonna manage to get

700
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: this cocaine pass these D e A Agents. Now, how

701
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: they decided to do that is left to be decided.

702
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: So Whalen is sitting there and he's like, okay, obviously

703
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: the man of the hour. The d agents. Once the

704
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: song ends, they come up and they go, Whalen, uh,

705
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 1: we got these warrants for you. So Whalen and his

706
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: autobiography recounts he took out to warrants, one for possession

707
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: of cocaine and the other for conspiracy with further intent

708
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 1: to distribute. I took some time to look them over,

709
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: and after a while I handed them back. I don't know,

710
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: I shrug, But you said possession. I don't see anything

711
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: around here, do you, And we know it's here, Whalen,

712
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: the agent says, right. Whalen says, well, if it is here,

713
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: finding it might be a problem. So now it's a challenge.

714
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: And let's see, you boys are real smart with your

715
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: your patent leather shoes. So Whalen's like, I gotta get

716
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: back to work. We're recording this album. So he and

717
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: Albright keep it up with there like Masquerade. Now he's

718
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: still trying to decide what to do. He's taking the

719
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: cocaine off music stand. He's tossing under the floorboards, but

720
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: he knows that's not the best hiding place because the

721
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: agents will eventually tear the exactly. So he's sitting there

722
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: like trying to decide. I got him stalled for right now,

723
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: what can I do? And Richie's like I got a plan.

724
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 1: So Richie Albright it's like, uh hey, hey, Whalen, you

725
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: you're going back there, and you know we'll take this

726
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: next track. So Whalen does as he's told, goes back

727
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: in the recording studio with the cocaine and he starts

728
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 1: getting ready. He sings about six teen bars and the

729
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: next track, Richie hits the talk back button. Uh, someoney,

730
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: need to change that microphone. Hang going right there, I'm

731
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: gonna come and change that microphone. So he gets up

732
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: and then he goes in the recording booth. He's like,

733
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: where is that? So kind of points out it with

734
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,720
Speaker 1: his eyes about where it is, and so then Richie

735
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: Albright uh, he picks the story back up. At this point,

736
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: he says, so I go out there and moving the microphone,

737
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I found the package. I put it in my pants.

738
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: I come back out right and around that same time

739
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: Whalen's booking agent arrives. So now the scenes getting more chaotic.

740
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,720
Speaker 1: And by the way, the booking agent is half drunk,

741
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: so he shows half drunk with all these d agents.

742
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: You know what's going on here? What are y'all doing?

743
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: We're paying a lot of money and he's getting allowed with.

744
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 1: Whalen starts yelling at the bookie agent, you shut up.

745
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: We needed to deal, so the two of them start fighting.

746
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 1: This gives the distraction that Ritchie needs to go and

747
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: run off to the bathroom, so he then slips the

748
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: way to the bathroom, takes a cocaine out of his pants,

749
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: dumps it in the toilet flush. The d agents all

750
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: turned their head when they hear that flush. They know

751
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: exactly what it means, and as Whalen would later bragg

752
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: in his autobiography, they never did find anything, but since

753
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 1: the DA they still decided to arrest Whalen. Yeah, they

754
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 1: busted him, with or without the cocaine. He has to

755
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: go and get arrested and do the purp walk. And

756
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: then eventually the FEDS the case falls apart because the

757
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: bad arrest warrants because they didn't have it for the studio,

758
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: they had it for his office. There's a whole problem,

759
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: and then the prosecutors have to let it go. Whalon

760
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: takes that as an inspiration to write a new hit

761
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: song called don't you think this outlaw? Bits done gone

762
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: out of hand? A little fit? Yeah right. So eventually

763
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 1: in the eighties, Whylan decides to quit doing cocaine because

764
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: of these various issues in just like the cocaine keeps

765
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: bringing in. Now, after this quick little break and you

766
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: guys can enjoy some morsels of advertisements, I'll get back

767
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: to you with a very promised story of the cocaine bear.

768
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: So I told you Elizabeth Whalen had been able to

769
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: sneak the cocaine pass to the agents thanks to Richie,

770
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,240
Speaker 1: all right, and he manages not to go to jail.

771
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,439
Speaker 1: So he also, as I told you right before the break,

772
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: decides to quit doing cocaine. Good for him, right, great choice.

773
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: So when he quits, he decides to do it the

774
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: country way, which means cold turkey, no help, no no

775
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: going to rehab, no talking to anybody. He just locks

776
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 1: himself away and says, I'm just gonna sweat it out right.

777
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: But first he's got to get rid of all the temptations.

778
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 1: So he goes around his house and he gathers up

779
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: all his little secret stashes because he's been tucking away

780
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: cocaine for years. He never wants to run out of cocaine.

781
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 1: It's everywhere, it is everywhere. So he gathers up all

782
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: of his cocaine and then he hands it to his wife,

783
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: Jesse Coulter. Now, how much cocaine do you think he

784
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: gathered up and from his house and all these little

785
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: bits and pieces over here in the sixty pounds. Not quite.

786
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:52,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't a small child of cocaine. It was just

787
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: a nice, reasonable half pound of cocaine half pound away.

788
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 1: As he's like, I need some just in case I'm

789
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 1: going to run out, like Columbia is gonna stop making cocaine. Yeah,

790
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 1: So Jesse takes all this coke to the bathroom and

791
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: he hands are this half pound of cocaine and she's

792
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: singing the praises of Jesus the whole time. Right, So

793
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: she's in there, she's got a half pound of cocaine.

794
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: She's dumping in the toilet, flushing and going, oh, praise Jesus,

795
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,759
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jesus, Sweet Jesus, Jesus is great, Jesus is love.

796
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 1: And then meanwhile all the like fish in the watershed,

797
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: totally different, thank you. So, as I told you, we're

798
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: going to get into the story of the Cocaine Bear. Now,

799
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: Wayland Jennings, as I told you, is a big lover

800
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: of cocaine and then eventually quit. Yes, he still had

801
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: like a hankering for like that rough knock about cocaine

802
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: lifestyle he used to enjoy. So even after he quit

803
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: doing cocaine, he was still have certain cocaine collectibles. One

804
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: of those cocaine collectibles was the Cocaine Bear. It has

805
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: just like a cocaine hippo kind of it has something

806
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 1: to do with Pablo Escobar. Right. There was this seventy

807
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: eight words story published in The New York Times sev

808
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: seventy eight words. It's a very short story micro fiction.

809
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah like that. You don't see that newspapers really much anymore. Right.

810
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 1: The headline was cocaine and a dead bear. Oh well,

811
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: it's not that bad bears die, but yeah, that was

812
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: the headline. It was real New York Times eighties dead bear.

813
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, so did someone shoot him? Want a subway?

814
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: What happened? So the Times paints the scene and I

815
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,280
Speaker 1: quote a hundred and seventy five pound black bear apparently

816
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: died of an overdose of cocaine after discovering a batch

817
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 1: of the drug. This bear was found in the North

818
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Georgia Woods. Now, the bear had not purchased this cocaine.

819
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: The bear wasn't like a cocaine But the bear wasn't

820
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: hanging out with Whalen Jennings. Nothing about the whale and

821
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: all was involved in this part of But the bear

822
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: did do a lot of coke. Right now, the bear

823
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,360
Speaker 1: had discovered a duffel bag full of cocaine just sitting

824
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: in the woods, and being a bear, he ate the

825
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 1: cocaine and that was it for Mr Curious Bear. So

826
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: seventy five pounds of cocaine were in one duffel bag

827
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: and there was multiple right, yes, right, he's like mustache.

828
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: He was traped the woods and his day bag. So

829
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 1: it was about four and fifty million dollars worth of cocaine. Goodness, yeah,

830
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: it's a good amount of cocaine. There was these cocaine

831
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 1: smuggers you've been flying it up from Columbia and they

832
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 1: plan to deliver the cocaine into the southeast United States.

833
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: And things went awry and the smuggler had to leap

834
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: from his little tiny cess in the plane. But decide,

835
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: do you know what, I'm taking the cocaine with me.

836
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: So he like straps the cocaine to him in the

837
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: duffel bag, gets his parachute, throws a couple of bags out,

838
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: and then dives out of the plane. Yeah, doesn't work

839
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,840
Speaker 1: well for him. So the cocaine lands in the Appalachian Woods.

840
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 1: The smuggler lands in a driveway in a suburb one

841
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: state away. Since survived the fall, that story bind you

842
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: will soon be a new movie called Cocaine Bear. I

843
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: swear to God it's coming one and it should be

844
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 1: I believe ray Leota's last film. And I bet you

845
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,320
Speaker 1: he went to the Oscar for it. Because it's a

846
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:02,480
Speaker 1: cocaine movie ray Leota, ray Leota as as cocaine. He

847
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: starts as cocaine. No, he's the bear. He's going to

848
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: be like in a little bear costume. I like that. Yeah,

849
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 1: it's like a bright eyeliner. That's how you know it's

850
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:17,279
Speaker 1: Leota exactly. So this news story, I told you it's

851
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: about a bear. It's it's about Wayale and Jennings. How

852
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: did they come together? I am afraid to know. And

853
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: if it wasn't the cocaine, what was it? Taxidermy your

854
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: other favorite? Yeah, so someone gets this bear. They taxidermy

855
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: the bear. They renamed the bear Pablo Escobar. Is that

856
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: like something from Bilder Bear? So this new the newest

857
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: latest from Bilderbart. Pablo Escobar goes on display at a

858
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: rest stop in Georgia. Oh god, so yeah, Pablo Escobar.

859
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:49,280
Speaker 1: He's at the visitor center of the Chattahoochee River National

860
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 1: Recreation Area. Did they have him in like board shorts

861
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: and sunglasses, like doing like a cool guy post films

862
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 1: up like he's hanging up all the all of the

863
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: taxidermy cool guy. It's the cool guy club. Was he

864
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: stuffed with cocaine? That would have been a good use

865
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 1: of the cocaine. But if he is, yeah, no that

866
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 1: he was not, because Whalen tried. That's why he bought

867
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: the bear. No, it's like I thought, quit. No, I

868
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: promise you he did. In the nineties, there's a fire

869
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: at the Chattahoochee River National Recreation Area. Then the whole building,

870
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: the visitor center burns. They have to clear out all

871
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: the Indian artifacts. They have to clear out all those

872
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: various local like the like, but exactly, thank you, all right,

873
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: and then of course i'll see Pablo Esco bear. So

874
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: they take this and they put all in store junites, right,

875
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: and then a month later after they rebuilt, the recreation

876
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: center burn. No, no, it was all saved, right, just

877
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: the recreation center itself, but most of the stuff that

878
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: was again glass cases and stuff, seemed to manage it

879
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: through the fire. It's mostly a structure fire, right, So

880
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: it's all in these storage units. Takes a month to

881
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: rebuild it. They go down to the storage units to

882
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: go and grab the stuff to take it back. There's

883
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: nothing in the storage units, Dunton, all gone right, just empty,

884
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: not even a note like I took out any of

885
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,680
Speaker 1: the cocaine. Nothing, right, so Pablo Escobart gone. So he

886
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: was just gonna suck on the fur the bear in there.

887
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: I know there's something there. The bear he ate seventy

888
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: five pounds. He actually didn't eat that much. But anyway,

889
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,399
Speaker 1: Whalen Jennings ends up with this bear. Right now you're

890
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: wondering how the hell could Whalon Jennings end up with

891
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: the bear. He he's not gonna be hanging out. People

892
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 1: are breaking into storage. Maybe he isn't these truck stops.

893
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: Who knows right turns out? Well, let back up. I

894
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: need you to know some about Whalen Jennings. The dude

895
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 1: love to collect stuff like it wasn't like he just

896
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: had the Publo Escobert. He also had a robe the

897
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali had warm and he beat up Leon Spinks

898
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 1: like in the eighties fight. He had one. He hit

899
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: two of Willie Nelson's braids that he had been given

900
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: his braid yea like when Willie cut his braid to

901
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: gave him to Whalon, and Whalen's like, thank you, Willy,

902
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 1: and he proudly displayed them in his home. He had

903
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: a motorcycle that once belonged to Buddy Holly, who he

904
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: was a guitar player for but exactly, and uh, he

905
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,280
Speaker 1: had a pair of dukes of Hazzard General lead Dodge

906
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: chargers because you know he was the narrator for that

907
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: great job on that And he had cocaine Bear. So

908
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,720
Speaker 1: this is all in his collection. He's a collector. Yeah exactly.

909
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 1: The police who are supposed to solve this mystery, they

910
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: eventually tracked down the stolen artifacts and they show up

911
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 1: at a pawn shop in Nashville and the shop owners like, okay,

912
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,239
Speaker 1: you got me man. They're like, well, wait where is

913
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: all this stuff? Like I sold it, man, stuff is

914
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: all gone? Wait what what? Okay? Where are the Native

915
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: American artifacts? He's like, ah, beats me, Like, well, do

916
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 1: you have receipts? I probably can find him. He's like okay,

917
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: well where we really would like to find Pablo Escobart.

918
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: And he's like, okay, I have that one. I do

919
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: know where. They care more about that than the artifacts.

920
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's the one that when the press wants

921
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: to know about And where is Hazel's butter churn? Exactly? No,

922
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: I just need the bear. The cocaine bear will be

923
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: good bear. So guy's like okay, well I happen to

924
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:52,720
Speaker 1: know where that is, and so he writes down Whalen

925
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: Jennings address slips into the cops, where cops go and

926
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: they drive across Nashville. The show of at Whalen's plays.

927
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: Whalen sitting outside and he's hey, officers, just give them

928
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 1: a big old howdy, and they're like, hey, ware, and

929
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,400
Speaker 1: they started walking to him. They're like, no, Whitland, we

930
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: came out here because we heard you might have some

931
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: property that could have been stolen from down to George Away.

932
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: And he's like, what are you talking about? What do

933
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: you what do you got there? And he's like, we're

934
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,800
Speaker 1: looking for a cocaine bear and oh yeah, Pablo Escobart,

935
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: Like you have. I can't take that. He's called Pablo

936
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: Escobar best. So the police are like, yeah, man, Whalen, look,

937
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: we don't want to have any problems. We're not gonna

938
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: tell the press about it. If you can just give

939
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: us the cocaine bear, we'll go take it back down

940
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,360
Speaker 1: to Georgia. All problems solved. It's like, you know, officers,

941
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: I'd love to, but I'd no longer have Pablo Escobart.

942
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,399
Speaker 1: They're like, what do you mean you don't have Pablo Escobar.

943
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: He's like, look, man, I don't have it. They're like, okay,

944
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: well did you sell it? And he's like, no, no one, baby,

945
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I may have traded it. And he's like, what do

946
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: you mean traded it? I gave it to a Las

947
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: Vegas coake dealer. Like what. Yeah. So when they hear that,

948
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: these Nashville cops, local cops are like, man, ain't no way.

949
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: No one's gonna send us to Las Vegas to go

950
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: get a stuffed taxidermy bear. So that's where the tale

951
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: of the Missing Cocaine Bear ends. Nobody knows. Only Whaland

952
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 1: knows where the cocaine Bear went. That is, whoever actually

953
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: has it. Because this no, they didn't well they didn't.

954
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: They took his word and so they believed in what

955
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 1: he said. Yeah, it's over. Cocaine Bear became sentient and

956
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: was hiding in the basement. He may have never actually

957
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: been dead. He was just like real stiff from all

958
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 1: the cocaine. He wasn't actually taxed, gritting the whole tim well.

959
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: That is the mystery of the Cocaine Bear. Except for

960
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: one other thing. No charges were filed against Whaland. They

961
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: let him go good. That was his last big legal Yeah,

962
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: so there you go. So my favorite drug bust from

963
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: Outlaw Country? I love it. I love it. So, Elizabeth,

964
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: what's a ridiculous takeaway here? So my takeaway would be

965
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: that Outlaw Country is the coolest of all genres. Heart agree,

966
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: love it? Um, And I would say that if you

967
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: have a cocaine bear in your house, I would I

968
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: would keep that under your hat. I wouldn't let people know.

969
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:01,279
Speaker 1: I might even give the bear I had to wear,

970
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 1: seeing act like cocaine bear wouldn't be wearing a hat

971
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: like that. It exactly Saren, what's your ridiculous takeaway? Look

972
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: at me? I'm all a flood as I care. You

973
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: see me, you hear me. I want to know about

974
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: your journey. Let me have it. Well, my journey is this,

975
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 1: don't do cocaine. It's a terrible drug. Do not do cocaine.

976
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: There's nothing good. So other than that, I think Willie

977
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Nelson has put it best in his song nothing I

978
00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 1: can do about it now. And if you will allow me,

979
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you just a couple of lyrics from

980
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: this song because this is like, um, I don't want

981
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,880
Speaker 1: to say a model of my life, but it's an

982
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: operating standard. You're ready. I've got a long list of

983
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 1: real good reasons for all the things I've done. I've

984
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: got a picture in the back of my mind of

985
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: what I've lost and what I've won. I've survived every situation.

986
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: No one win, to freeze and wind, to run and regret.

987
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: It's just a memory written on my brow and there's

988
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: nothing I can do about it now. Amen, Well, thanks

989
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 1: for joining us. I am Elizabeth Dutton and I am

990
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:11,720
Speaker 1: Willie Nelson. Hey have about it. It's her Willie Nelson.

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