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Speaker 1: the thunder beat the Rockets. Shade fifty one SGA his
Speaker 1: fourth fifty piece this year, and they all come in
Speaker 1: like the last six weeks. Jaquary twenty second, he had
Speaker 1: fifty four, the twenty nineth he had fifty two, February
Speaker 1: the fifth, he had fifty, and tonight he had fifty one.
Speaker 2: It is his MVP to lose as great as your
Speaker 2: Kitchen is playing, and he's playing unbelievable.
Speaker 1: SGA is the MVP. He's playing Al Stanley. He's controlling
Speaker 1: the pace of the game. Now you look at them,
Speaker 1: they're deep, Jaylen Williams. They got Cason coming off the bench.
Speaker 1: They got an Isaiah Joe coming off the bench that
Speaker 1: can defend at the high level. They got Caruso of
Speaker 1: another defender that can defend at the high level coming
Speaker 1: off the bench.
Speaker 2: We know what lou dort is a tremendous wing defender.
Speaker 1: But they got scoring out the Yan Yang with Shade
Speaker 1: tonight fifty one eighteen or thirty five and nine.
Speaker 2: For three perfect from the free throw line.
Speaker 1: Jalen Williams eight of sixteen four or five from the
Speaker 1: three point line or six from the free throw line.
Speaker 1: He had twenty one, he had twenty four, Hungerd had eleven,
Speaker 1: lou Dort had eleven, Hartenstein had eight, and then you
Speaker 1: had Wallace with fourteen. Wiggins didn't shoot the ball well tonight,
Speaker 1: but we know it's just a matter of time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Rockets didn't play bad, O Joe.
Speaker 1: You know, they shot forty nine percent from the floor,
Speaker 1: forty six percent from the three, eighty two percent from
Speaker 1: the free throw line. But you allowed okay see to
Speaker 1: shoot fifty percent from the floor, forty six percent from
Speaker 1: the three, and they shot eighty nine percent from the
Speaker 1: free throw line, and they shot what ten more free
Speaker 1: throws than what you shot. Yeah, but you know, I,
Speaker 1: you know, I joke a lot about the Lakers, But man,
Speaker 1: I understand what O case he is. I'm I'm not
Speaker 1: foolish enough to like, you know, I joke with him.
Speaker 1: But you don't get to the record that they have,
Speaker 1: O Joe and not be a good ball club.
Speaker 2: They're very, very good ball club.
Speaker 1: They're very well coached, and they're starting to they believe
Speaker 1: that they're this good.
Speaker 4: You know, not only they're very world coach Not only
Speaker 4: are they a good ball club, you have a player
Speaker 4: like Sga.
Speaker 5: He's not secluded, He's not secluding the other of his
Speaker 5: teammates around him. He's the type of player when you
Speaker 5: think about a Kobe. He makes those around him better.
Speaker 5: Everybody's scoring. You gotta think he didn't got fifty to
Speaker 5: He didnet got fifty or fifty one to night and
Speaker 5: we not talk about him being selfish. You know how
Speaker 5: efficient you got to be where everybody else can still
Speaker 5: contribute to the scorecard. Yeah, and you still drop fifty
Speaker 5: one fifty.
Speaker 1: This is fourth one out a year, fourth one in
Speaker 1: the last five weeks.
Speaker 2: And this six weeks.
Speaker 5: Listen, young boy Sga is different, And like you said,
Speaker 5: it's his his award lose yep, But I don't see it.
Speaker 5: I don't see it happening. He's he's too consistent night
Speaker 5: in the night out to lose ANTP this year. I'm listening.
Speaker 5: At this point, they might as well give it to him.
Speaker 5: I'm not how many more weeks we got.
Speaker 1: Left three four a month at money watch their record,
Speaker 1: they got sixty they got twenty one game. Let's see,
Speaker 1: they played sixty one games. They got twenty one games. Left,
Speaker 1: so they got eighty two that they're fifty and eleven,
Speaker 1: so they got a twenty one games left, O Joe.
Speaker 5: You might as well just go ahead and give it
Speaker 5: to him now, yeah, and then, I mean, I mean,
Speaker 5: no disrespect what joker is doing.
Speaker 2: They might as well give it to him. Now.
Speaker 1: You look, he's playing unbelievable. Oh y'all, I mean you can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at his record. Okay, what are you
Speaker 1: basing it on? Team record? The number one in the
Speaker 1: Western Conference? Okay, what does his stat looks like? He
Speaker 1: I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's second.
Speaker 1: He might be leading the league in scoring. Not currently right,
Speaker 1: so he might be leading the league in scoring. Their
Speaker 1: office rating is out to Yin yang. He doesn't turn
Speaker 1: the ball over. He facilitates, as you mentioned, he gets
Speaker 1: everybody else involved. There's nothing not to like about this kid.
Speaker 1: And it just goes to show you, O Joe, you
Speaker 1: look at him for where he was as a rookie,
Speaker 1: and you look at how much better he's gotten from
Speaker 1: the time he's a rookie until now.
Speaker 2: That's why I say it's hard for me to believe.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that everybody's going to take a meteoric
Speaker 1: jump like him. But it's hard for me to believe
Speaker 1: that you can do something and you practice at it,
Speaker 1: that you won't get incrementally better better.
Speaker 5: You have to And now you know, we haven't talked.
Speaker 5: We talked about it. How good he is on the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. You know, in his office
Speaker 5: of prowess, is a bleieger to score, putting the ball
Speaker 5: on the floor, stuff like that.
Speaker 2: We forgot to mention this defense. We've got to mention
Speaker 2: the defense. He's also playing defense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's out there in steels. He does lead the
Speaker 1: league OJO this year. He has the most fifty point
Speaker 1: games with four. He has the most forty point games
Speaker 1: with nine. He has the most thirty point games thirty eight.
Speaker 1: He has the most twenty point games fifty nine. Saw
Speaker 1: he scored at least twenty points in all but two
Speaker 1: of their games. He leads the NBA in scoring by
Speaker 1: over three hundred points.
Speaker 2: So he's gonna lead the league in scoring. Now.
Speaker 1: Look, I think he, Jannis and Yoak will be unanimous MVP,
Speaker 1: excuse me, unanimous all NBA selections and rightfully so. But
Speaker 1: Shae right now, Shae is shape if he's a unanimous MVP.
Speaker 1: Oh Joe as well as Yo Kiss playing, as well
Speaker 1: as Giannas is playing.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna hold you.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna be mad at you say you name
Speaker 1: this man MVP, because that's how well he's playing, that's
Speaker 1: how well his team is playing. And so if you
Speaker 1: go back and look at it, look at what steph
Speaker 1: won unanimous MVP. They were hold. That was the year
Speaker 1: they went seventy three or nine. So with that being said, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was an unbelievable game. And like I said, Houston
Speaker 1: did played bad. Now, they did not have a Sungoon,
Speaker 1: they did not have Van Fleet, what's the Dylan Brooks
Speaker 1: didn't play. They were without a lot of their key guys.
Speaker 1: Those are three starters right there. But maybe it's a
Speaker 1: closer game. I mean they gave up one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty seven. I mean you gave up. They gave up
Speaker 1: sixty three at the half, and then they give up
Speaker 1: a thirty nine piece, and then they give up a
Speaker 1: thirty five. So you're not gonna win very many games
Speaker 1: if you give up thirty a quarter, and that's what
Speaker 1: they gave up. They gave up. Then they gave up
Speaker 1: thirty a quarter and you're not gonna win a whole
Speaker 1: lot of games. You put them on the fire line.
Speaker 1: They shoot a bunch of free for a team. They
Speaker 1: get to the fire line. Okay, see gets to the
Speaker 1: fire line. They shot twenty seven and May twenty four,
Speaker 1: and you create you would think, like, hold on, they're
Speaker 1: shooting thirty plus threes and they still getting into the
Speaker 1: free throw line. Yeah, conchee does kaushe gonna get to
Speaker 1: lie ten to fifty the night.
Speaker 4: He's aggressive, he's a great from any big range.
Speaker 5: But hey, I'm funk you ever while you watch his game,
Speaker 5: when he gets the ball in his hands, he coming
Speaker 5: and coming up course, there's no wasting time, that's no
Speaker 5: playing with the ball. There's no at times winning played
Speaker 5: in you know, setting squeeze. But outside of that, when
Speaker 5: it's one on one, he's at you make.
Speaker 1: A move and go, yeah he's he's he's taller than
Speaker 1: you think. Yeah, he's a big guard. He's like he
Speaker 1: likes six four, so he's a big point. Six y
Speaker 1: four is short in the NBA. You know that, not
Speaker 1: for a point?
Speaker 2: It ain't do you think? So, no point?
Speaker 4: You got point guard six seven to six eight, Bring.
Speaker 1: Them you talk about Luca, You talking about Luca Kyrie.
Speaker 2: Ain't that tall? Step Ain't that tall? Van Fleet? Ain't
Speaker 2: that tall?
Speaker 1: You go and go, Jamal Murray's not that tall, darn
Speaker 1: Fox isn't that tall?
Speaker 2: Right? Oh he's six six, My bad. I shorted the
Speaker 2: man two inches. He's six six. He's six six.
Speaker 1: And so when you look, and the thing is, oh Joe,
Speaker 1: the way, the pace in which he plays, he can
Speaker 1: post you.
Speaker 2: He got mid rang.
Speaker 1: Now he's got the three ball that falls. He can
Speaker 1: get to the rim. So really offensively, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: any weaknesses. And guess what, you're gonna put them on
Speaker 1: the fire line. He gonna get to the fire line.
Speaker 1: So now either you file him or you let he
Speaker 1: makes it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: The only thing that you hope when the ball go
Speaker 1: because he's in a zone right now. Yeah, all you
Speaker 1: hope is that the rim don't like it is spit
Speaker 1: it out. That's you just hope it though. You're like, damn,
Speaker 1: I hope the rim don't like this shot.
Speaker 5: And you got you got to have a hope and
Speaker 5: a prayer for that, especially if somebody loped in like
Speaker 5: that week night out of night. This is the chance
Speaker 5: that he's say it's only it's only a week left.
Speaker 5: I mean not to charge a week he got three
Speaker 5: four weeks left before the season. Oh yeah, but it did.
Speaker 5: Might as well chalk it up. He not nothing to
Speaker 5: lay down now with that mentality.
Speaker 1: Nah now, because at the end of the day, you
Speaker 1: still want to you still want to, like, all things
Speaker 1: being equal, I probably want to like have home court.
Speaker 1: So they're fighting with the Calves on the other side
Speaker 1: to see who have home court throughout because if it
Speaker 1: comes down to a situation and they both makes it
Speaker 1: out of their respective conferences, I want you to come
Speaker 1: to me. I want Game seven, if necessary, to be
Speaker 1: an okay, excuse me to be an okay. See, but
Speaker 1: Shaye is playing unbelievable or he's he's been from start
Speaker 1: to finish. I think he felt jilded last year that
Speaker 1: they that Yo Kich won it. I didn't have a
Speaker 1: problem with Yo winning it when you look at the
Speaker 1: numbers in what he put up. I think they felt bad.
Speaker 1: Maybe the voters felt bad because they gave it to
Speaker 1: Joel and Be the year before, because he easily could
Speaker 1: have won it that year and he's gonna beat He's
Speaker 1: kind of like Lebron and Jordan.
Speaker 2: He's always gonna be in that top three.
Speaker 1: Oh, he's gonna win it to beat the top three
Speaker 1: because of the numbers that he puts up.
Speaker 2: He's having in twenty eight, twenty eight, thirteen and ten.
Speaker 2: He's a center.
Speaker 1: Ah, yes, and so but Shae leading the league in scoring.
Speaker 2: H he's up there and.
Speaker 1: Steals h the best team in the Western Conference, they're
Speaker 1: playing extremely well. I don't see how anybody else other
Speaker 1: than him winsday at m v P. And that's not
Speaker 1: a knock on yo. H. I don't think Jannis has
Speaker 1: a chance to win it because his team record is
Speaker 1: it what it needs to be. Now, if you want
Speaker 1: to throw j t in that mix, do you like
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum enough to put him in that mix considering
Speaker 1: how well the Celtics are playing that the number two
Speaker 1: seed in the East.
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: But see, I think the thing for me is that
Speaker 1: I think the thing that works against Jason Tatum and
Speaker 1: chance y'all let me know what y'all think. Are we
Speaker 1: sure Jason Tatum is the best player on that team?
Speaker 1: You know what I asked you. I asked you that
Speaker 1: last season. All I know when it comes to the Awards.
Speaker 1: Wait when when when it came to the playoffs, right.
Speaker 5: Jason Jason Tatum, Jason Jason Tatum, This Jason Tatum that
Speaker 5: when I watched the game, obviously, you know, but for
Speaker 5: me the game of basketball, I wasn't on top of
Speaker 5: it like I should be, you know.
Speaker 4: So obviously I'm locking in with you watching the game
Speaker 4: so I can be able to.
Speaker 5: Talk about the playoffs. And I'm watching the game and
Speaker 5: all I'm here in Jason Tatum. But when I watch
Speaker 5: the game, all I'm seeing in Jayden Brown. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: I'm thinking to myself in my head, well wait a minute,
Speaker 5: based on what I'm seeing on TV, it's different than
Speaker 5: what everybody else is telling me.
Speaker 2: Right, So I answer you last year? Are you sure
Speaker 2: you know?
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum is, for one, one that can be in
Speaker 5: a position to be the face of the league.
Speaker 2: But hell, you can't.
Speaker 1: He can't be the face of the league when you're
Speaker 1: questioning whether or not he's the best player on his
Speaker 1: own team. That's got to be definitive, that's got to
Speaker 1: be undeniable. There is no if and buts about it.
Speaker 1: If there's anything, he can't, So how you're gonna be
Speaker 1: the face supposed to the face of the league, and
Speaker 1: you're not the best player on your own team. Because
Speaker 1: what we saw is one guy win finals MVP. We
Speaker 1: saw another the same guy win with Eastern Conference MVP.
Speaker 1: We see that guy a lot of times, takes the
Speaker 1: toughest matchups. He took Luca and still gave me the
Speaker 1: production that he gave you. Normally, if a guy, if
Speaker 1: you're asking a guy to give you that kind of
Speaker 1: production offensively, he needs to take a defensively. But that's
Speaker 1: not what Jaylen Brown did. He hounded it and then
Speaker 1: yes he could turn it over a holiday. You take it, okay,
Speaker 1: Derrick White, But initially I'm going to start on him.
Speaker 1: And that's not a knock on Jason Tatum. I think
Speaker 1: he's a phenomenal player. He's won three first team All
Speaker 1: NBA selections for a reason. He's a two time Olympic
Speaker 1: gold medal winning player for a reason. This is not
Speaker 1: a knock. But at the face of the league, Jason
Speaker 1: Tatum is a comparable Excuse me, Jaylen Brown is a
Speaker 1: comparable player.
Speaker 5: I got a question too, and this is for the
Speaker 5: chat is but y'all tell me what you think. Let's
Speaker 5: say you take Jason I mean, excuse me. Let's say
Speaker 5: you take Jaylen Brown out the equation and he's not
Speaker 5: on the Celtics and you have someone else in that spot.
Speaker 5: Jason Tatum is still there putting up the numbers he's
Speaker 5: putting up this year. So it's for Jason Tatum being
Speaker 5: the MVP this year. But enough is he still doing enough?
Speaker 1: He's not going to the MVP this year. He can't
Speaker 1: do enough to overtake as and Yoke. No, it's gonna be.
Speaker 1: It's first of all, you're gonna have to have a
Speaker 1: season for a guy to win the MVP over Yokic
Speaker 1: because his numbers are gonna be this He's gonna be
Speaker 1: somewhere around twenty seven points, he's gonna be somewhere around
Speaker 1: ten to thirteen rebounds, he's gonna be somewhere around nine
Speaker 1: to eleven assists. So in order for you to win it,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be like SGA averaging thirty two
Speaker 1: to thirty three. Your team's success, you're gonna have to be,
Speaker 1: you know, ten games above everybody else that's you know, Lakers,
Speaker 1: and second the Nuggets are in third percentage points.
Speaker 2: So your ten eleven game ahead of them.
Speaker 1: So in order for you to be win the MVP
Speaker 1: over yoke, because he's gonna be somewhere around second or thirty.
Speaker 1: He might get the first seed, but his numbers are
Speaker 1: gonna be so good. Kind of like when Jordan his
Speaker 1: numbers was so good. It took Karl malone and winning
Speaker 1: sixty plus games him averaging twenty seven and twelve right
Speaker 1: to overtake Jordan thirty and six. And they had a
Speaker 1: slightly better record. But they worked well together. I love
Speaker 1: the fact because a lot of times people will trying
Speaker 1: to like they need to get rid of one of
Speaker 1: them the other. They post got similar, but they figured
Speaker 1: it out. They found that way to play together and
Speaker 1: realized it was mutually beneficial for the both of them
Speaker 1: to remain together as opposed to split them apart, because
Speaker 1: we see that so many times. Yes, it's robbed some
Speaker 1: teams of the potential championships because one guy wanted to
Speaker 1: be the lead dog and I don't want to be.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be I want to be.
Speaker 1: The lead doll. I don't want to be both of
Speaker 1: us in the harness together side by side. I need
Speaker 1: to be the lead dog. And I love that JT
Speaker 1: and JB. They praised each other, They compliment each other. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sure JB was upset that he did, like hold on,
Speaker 1: bro hold on, I'm Eastern Conference MVP, I'm Finals MVP,
Speaker 1: and you take two of my teammates.
Speaker 2: I understand.
Speaker 1: I'm staying JT because he was on the previous team
Speaker 1: and he's been a three time first team All NBA
Speaker 1: selection since then.
Speaker 2: Yes, bro y'all take two of my teammates.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know that that you know that was personal
Speaker 4: and something that was personal.
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna leave that down.
Speaker 1: So I'm glad they were able to h I'm glad
Speaker 1: they're able to work this together because they should be
Speaker 1: for the next five years. They probably should get a
Speaker 1: couple championships because both guys are under the age of thirty.
Speaker 1: A young team. All depends. I think prezingis is up
Speaker 1: after this year. In presingas a fridge, you got Derek
Speaker 1: White signed to a long term deal, you got Holidays
Speaker 1: signed to a long term deal. It's a Peyton Pritchard
Speaker 1: who there. He was the heartbeat off the bench, right
Speaker 1: he might get him a little countious. Somebody might break
Speaker 1: break him off, like, hey, come on over here, you can.
Speaker 1: You're doing that for Boston. He has one more year.
Speaker 1: They'll probably look to extend him.
Speaker 2: But good game tonight.
Speaker 1: Oka Se moved to fifty other level with a one
Speaker 1: thirty seven victory over the Houston Rockets. The Rockets dropped
Speaker 1: the thirty seven and twenty four. They were playing without
Speaker 1: Alfred s Gun. There was Dylan Brooks and Van Fleet
Speaker 1: who's been out for an extended period of time.
Speaker 2: Dylan Brooks did it, although he didn't play. He was dressed,
Speaker 2: but he didn't play.
Speaker 1: Nah Oh Joe Kyrie was helped to the locker room
Speaker 1: after the parent leg injury. He stayed in the game
Speaker 1: and drained two free throws before leaving the court. UH
Speaker 1: with Kyrie, the question is, O Joe, you want to
Speaker 1: put that the Mavericks game up? Kyrie playing this kind
Speaker 1: of and he has to AD's out, and you traded
Speaker 1: and you traded Luca, so now and you out lively
Speaker 1: and you're without Daniel Gafford. So he's having a long minute.
Speaker 1: Try to keep them afloat until a d comes back.
Speaker 1: But you're putting a lot of You're putting a lot
Speaker 1: of He's got to do an awful lot. Yeah, facilitate,
Speaker 1: he's got a score. That's that's that's.
Speaker 5: A lot when you when you think about what he
Speaker 5: has to do with a d being out, a player
Speaker 5: like Kyrie of his shoot me, of his caliber, that
Speaker 5: can that can run the offing, that can set things up,
Speaker 5: that can facilitate, that can get hot on any night,
Speaker 5: especially when he has to score when the owner is
Speaker 5: on him to.
Speaker 2: Lead the way. Kyrie can do that.
Speaker 5: So when you say it's a lot, it's a lot
Speaker 5: to ask of him to do. And he's the type
Speaker 5: of player. He's one of the ones that left Cleveland
Speaker 5: because he wanted to be the head dog, right right, right,
Speaker 5: So listen, this this is your chance.
Speaker 2: This is the chance what you can do.
Speaker 1: But he's finding out it's a lot more. It's a
Speaker 1: lot more going into ito. Is a lot more going
Speaker 1: into it than being the lead dog. Now, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: gonna score a bunch of points. Yeah, but at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, people are gonna be looking at
Speaker 1: you like, bro, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Oh? Okay, I see you shoot, I see you think
Speaker 2: what about that team?
Speaker 1: I mean, he's averaged the third most minutes per game
Speaker 1: in his career and he's doing it as he's starting
Speaker 1: to get older. Normally the minutes decrease you play. If
Speaker 1: you go back to look at Kobe, you look at Lebron,
Speaker 1: and you look at Jordan, they're playing thirty nine forty
Speaker 1: I think one year Lebron played forty two minutes a night.
Speaker 2: Jordan was up there, Kobe was up there.
Speaker 1: But as you start getting thirty, now you start coming back, whoa, WHOA,
Speaker 1: I need to be round somewhere between thirty five and
Speaker 1: thirty seven. What's the averaging now? He might be averaging
Speaker 1: thirty five, thirty seven, thirty minutes, thirty seven, thirty seven,
Speaker 1: thirty thirty six. For that's a lot of minutes, you know,
Speaker 1: damn it's because the things. There's a difference between playing
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes and you got Luca running shotgun with
Speaker 1: you playing thirty six minutes, and you got a D
Speaker 1: thirty six minutes, and you got KD. Harden thirty six minutes,
Speaker 1: and you got Lebron, Cause you can be out there
Speaker 1: on the cor for thirty six men and you can coast.
Speaker 1: Kad gonna get buckets, Harden gonna get me buckets, Luca
Speaker 1: go will get me buckets.
Speaker 2: Lebron A d.
Speaker 1: Uh, bro, when you out there with you you got
Speaker 1: the work. You know, sometimes don't you know? You show
Speaker 1: up at the job, Hey, you just show up, but
Speaker 1: you just there. I ain't doing no work today. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to everybody Cove. Hey, I know everybody else gonna
Speaker 1: do that job. Uh. It ain't like that right now
Speaker 1: with Kyrie Dallas, and they're trying to do everything they
Speaker 1: can to kind of stay in the sixth spot.
Speaker 2: Don't have to do the play in.
Speaker 1: Uh. They avoid to play. You know, if you're in
Speaker 1: the sixth spot, you avoid the play in.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: And so they hopefully, I'm sure they're hoping they can
Speaker 1: get ad back at some point in time, probably having
Speaker 1: reevaluated in the next seven to ten days, and see
Speaker 1: where that goes. But uh, I wish Kyrie is speedy recovery.
Speaker 1: Hopefully is nothing serious.
Speaker 2: Was it was?
Speaker 4: Did he hyper extendent or did he step on somebody's
Speaker 4: footing twist his ankle?
Speaker 2: Which which one was it? I didn't even Yeah, even
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 4: Even even on the replay, I still couldn't tell happened.
Speaker 2: But he couldn't You couldn't put it.
Speaker 5: He could put any weight on that foot. It was
Speaker 5: his right foot to you know, to be exact, I'm
Speaker 5: thinking that with them the way they helped him off
Speaker 5: the port, it wasn't a hyper extension. I think he
Speaker 5: twisted his ankle a little bit and I'm not even
Speaker 5: gonna talk about my remedy to fix that.
Speaker 1: To getting he stepped on the guy's ankle and his
Speaker 1: knee kind of bunkled a little bit.
Speaker 2: Okay, Uh, that's valentiunis I think.
Speaker 1: And when that valentis he stepped on Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: stepped he.
Speaker 2: Stepped on it. He stepped on his foot.
Speaker 5: That's one of the worst things you could do on me,
Speaker 5: you hooper, when you step on somebody's ankle and your
Speaker 5: eyes are looking up so you're not you're not you're
Speaker 5: not ready for it. And the foot is already relaxed too,
Speaker 5: so you're getting all all that man.
Speaker 2: Feeling. But that's not Hopefully there's nothing major.
Speaker 1: Hopefully it's just a little, a simple, little tweak, a
Speaker 1: couple of days rab some ice, and Kyrie will be
Speaker 1: able to come back. Because without Kyrie, they're thirty two
Speaker 1: and thirty right now where they now, they're tenth. They're
Speaker 1: in the tenth spot. That's the play that's the last
Speaker 1: spot for the play in.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not looking good now, which will be even
Speaker 6: worse for Nico.
Speaker 1: Harris if they if because at one point they were
Speaker 1: where they were I think they were in the fifth
Speaker 1: or the sixth spot. And now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: a d comes in and have so much promise. He
Speaker 1: goes out and now you slide and you missed the playoffs,
Speaker 1: and Luca and them are in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: They go from seven to two.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Nico harrisonna look crazy after that.
Speaker 1: Huh really he looking crazy as it is, but you
Speaker 1: have uh so we'll find that you check this out.
Speaker 2: Let me know what you think, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: The Dallas Mavericks raised ticket prices cite investments. The Dallas
Speaker 1: Mavericks revealed that they're raising their season ticket price next season.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think about the average of eight little almost nine percent.
Speaker 1: Just weeks after dealing Luca to the Lakers. The Mavericks
Speaker 1: says season tickets will go up by eight twenty six,
Speaker 1: which is about nine percent uh, and the increase is
Speaker 1: due to ongoing investments in the team and fan engagements.
Speaker 1: One fan tweeted thirty days ago to Dallas Mavericks traded
Speaker 1: away their homegrown superstar, called him fat and laughed in
Speaker 1: the fans face about it. Today, they decided to almost
Speaker 1: double the prices of my season tickets from the past
Speaker 1: couple of years.
Speaker 2: The new ownership is disgustingly out of touch.
Speaker 5: Hold on not not only are they out of touch?
Speaker 5: Can you can you give me a better reason? What
Speaker 5: team was business? Actually raises prices mid season?
Speaker 2: No? Does he next season? Oh? Oh, it's oh okay, okay,
Speaker 2: don't we get your head up?
Speaker 1: Let you say you like my crazy to say, boys,
Speaker 1: save your pennies up so you can get.
Speaker 2: It for They let him know a head of down.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I would get ready to say, but that's
Speaker 5: slightly disrespectful.
Speaker 1: I don't look if they had kept Luca and say
Speaker 1: we're gonna raise chicken prices, I don't think fans would
Speaker 1: have had anything that had nothing bad to say about
Speaker 1: that decision on Joe because it's Luca.
Speaker 2: Because normally you want to keep your home going homegrown
Speaker 2: guys well definitely, especially.
Speaker 1: If they want to stay, because a lot of times
Speaker 1: they get you know, you see Zion, he wanted to
Speaker 1: leave Ad wanted to leave Lebron ended up leaving KD,
Speaker 1: ended up leaving Russ, left Hard and left Reggie Jackson.
Speaker 1: I mean, so so forthy. So the list goes on
Speaker 1: and on about you getting these guys and then them
Speaker 1: leaving Luca from off from everything that I've read and
Speaker 1: people that was close to him, that knows him, he
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave Dallas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the fans didn't want him to leave Dallas.
Speaker 1: Now, if you ask Philly fans, they might not be
Speaker 1: so disappointed if you trade Joe Elnbid, considering his injury
Speaker 1: history and he's missed as many games as he's played.
Speaker 1: I don't think the fans was disappointed when they traded
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, considering the regression that they had started to
Speaker 1: see in his play. Luca, we saw no regression. We
Speaker 1: only saw ascension in his play, and they traded it.
Speaker 1: And after you trade him, you have the unmitigated gall
Speaker 1: You have the audacity to bring your ass in here
Speaker 1: and talking about you raising prices.
Speaker 5: Now listen, and you know what you know it also
Speaker 5: Nico Harris makes a move like that. One thing that
Speaker 5: you can stand on is hoping that whoever you trade
Speaker 5: for replaces the product that actually left. And it makes
Speaker 5: the fans forget about the trade based on your production
Speaker 5: and what you do.
Speaker 2: But he's been out.
Speaker 5: And then to say what you say, what's gonna happen
Speaker 5: next year? What you're raising prices? Well, here, how about
Speaker 5: y'all fix that? How mut you fix this season?
Speaker 2: First?
Speaker 4: Fix the product on the court this season?
Speaker 5: Because the end, what about we wouldn't have a problem
Speaker 5: paying for next season if what we wanted and we
Speaker 5: were getting.
Speaker 2: Was on point this year. Well, ain't no fixing this year.
Speaker 2: This is your team moving forward.
Speaker 1: The question is how soon this ad comes back and
Speaker 1: what's the severity of Kyrie's injury? Because if both is
Speaker 1: down for a substantial amount of time, this season is over.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, this season is over.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna be without four of your top six
Speaker 1: seven guys and think you're gonna be make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That ain't happening. They're they're they're a good team. They're
Speaker 1: not that good. No team could overcome being without say
Speaker 1: a Kyrie, a d a Gaffer, a Lively.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening.
Speaker 1: So the only thing they can hope is hope and
Speaker 1: pray that within the next seven to ten days they
Speaker 1: can come back and they can go on a little
Speaker 1: run because they're not. It's not like they got a
Speaker 1: whole lot of games. It's not too much left in
Speaker 1: the season. Oh Joe, it's one month left in the
Speaker 1: regular season. Yeah, And they need to figure this thing out.
Speaker 1: But it's role you when when first of all, fans like,
Speaker 1: we already being pinched, We already being pinched.
Speaker 2: You see, they cutting jobs, and in inflation and.
Speaker 1: Eggs and gas and milk, and these prices rides race.
Speaker 2: The cost of a family is rising.
Speaker 1: And bro, y'all just traded the person that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind paying five hundred dollars a game to come see,
Speaker 1: y'all traded him. And now y'all asking me to pay
Speaker 1: seven to fifty mm.
Speaker 5: No, hell no, You think about you think about look
Speaker 5: at the landscape of the NBA, and you think about
Speaker 5: prices on how much tickets costs. There are two or
Speaker 5: three players on every team, on every team, I don't
Speaker 5: care how you how you look at it.
Speaker 4: Where fans that that put butts in the seats?
Speaker 5: Which about two or three players that actually put butts
Speaker 5: in the seats regardless of what the price of the
Speaker 5: tickets are. They make you forget about it. They make
Speaker 5: you forget about the economy because I know I'm getting
Speaker 5: once they go watch these boys play.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you need superstars because of the NBA. Look,
Speaker 1: it's all about a superstar. That's why the Lakers try
Speaker 1: to move heaven and Earth. They try to keep them.
Speaker 2: And for the longest time they've always had them.
Speaker 1: They had I mean when they were in Minneapolis, they
Speaker 1: had George Micah and then when they come to LA
Speaker 1: they had Baylor, and they had Jerry West, and then
Speaker 1: they make the trade. Then they get Willed, and then
Speaker 1: a couple of years later they get Kareem and then
Speaker 1: they drafted Magic, and they get Bob mcado, and they
Speaker 1: draft James Worthy and then they make they get shocked,
Speaker 1: and then they make the trade for Kobe and then
Speaker 1: they get Lebron to come. That's what the Lakers do.
Speaker 1: You have to have superstars. People want to see superstars,
Speaker 1: the best of the best or what they'll do. You'll
Speaker 1: sell the building out when those superstars come. Mm hm.
Speaker 1: So when Steph Curry's on coming to your town, it's
Speaker 1: gonna sell out. When Lebron come, it's gonna sell out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean when Jordan's and the league people team. You
Speaker 1: already knew Jordy gonna be all said out, Kobe was
Speaker 1: in shocked, donna be all sellout, Lebron, that was gonna
Speaker 1: be a sellout.
Speaker 2: You knew that, Bro.
Speaker 1: I want to sell out my I want my home
Speaker 1: game to sell out for Dardas because we're playing mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: not that, y'all copy, Not that, y'all copy, y'all copany
Speaker 1: to see somebody else?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 5: Hey, can you imagine where the price of tickets work
Speaker 5: courtside when Kobe and Shaq? God, imagine what the price
Speaker 5: And I know the price is probably extensive now, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure it's going up since then, but can you
Speaker 5: imagine what it was?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, specially well especially become playoffs or big game, they
Speaker 1: play San Antonio or they play you know they who
Speaker 1: else was the rival of theirs? Oh, Sacramento was the
Speaker 1: rival of there when they had Chris Webb, when they
Speaker 1: had Jay will uh the self the Sons, Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but but.
Speaker 5: Now Luca Luca first game yeah, which which course fly
Speaker 5: was just just matter of fact when you give me
Speaker 5: the price of course, I right now for a Lakers game,
Speaker 5: use it and NFL players number currently right, now don't
Speaker 5: tell me the number. Just give me an NFL play
Speaker 5: in Jersey number for better contact, because I don't want
Speaker 5: to hit the price because it's it's gonna make me mad.
Speaker 2: You know, don't know you're gonna be bad. Uh.
Speaker 1: First of all, they got they got Luca and Lebron,
Speaker 1: So the tickets are already gonna be hide giraffe hu
Speaker 1: hat to begin with. Okay, Now, think about when his
Speaker 1: first game he played Dallas. Yeah, now it's his old team. Okay,
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to see that. So probably you're probably looking
Speaker 1: at about closer you go to center court, the more
Speaker 1: expensive the tickets. You probably looking at it about probably
Speaker 1: twenty five ticket for center court. Okay, Okay, I thought
Speaker 1: I thought it had been. I thought it'd been in
Speaker 1: worsing Allen. Now you go to the playoffs, I thought
Speaker 1: they'd been worse than that. No, okay, okay, but uh
Speaker 1: but at a come playoff time you're dealing with the Lakers.
Speaker 1: I mean you like some tickets, oh Joe, you go
Speaker 1: sit court side fifty hundred, two thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: That ain't happening, no legal game. Nah. And they also
Speaker 2: depends on the city you go.
Speaker 1: To yeah, and the food. Now you get everything, you
Speaker 1: mean you all the food free? Right, but committed what
Speaker 1: you made for that ticket?
Speaker 2: It should be right, you know access VIP. Yeah, because
Speaker 2: I had had season tickets and you made me miss
Speaker 2: all my games? Who did o cho? Wait?
Speaker 4: How did that make you miss out of your game?
Speaker 4: You could have just took me to the games with you.
Speaker 2: Because you started nightcap. Huh? Because you started Nightcap. I listened,
Speaker 2: I started Nightcap.
Speaker 5: But what you could have done is is we could
Speaker 5: have been a part of a consistent routine of going
Speaker 5: to the legal game, sitting courtside. You could have sat
Speaker 5: there and taught me, you know, the intricacies of the game,
Speaker 5: what time, how.
Speaker 1: Am I gonna sit, how we're gonna fit court side?
Speaker 1: And were coming on after the game? What do you
Speaker 1: talk about?
Speaker 2: Geny?
Speaker 5: I know Jenny Buss, she would have gave us a
Speaker 5: private room in the back. We could to set up
Speaker 5: our nightcaps up right there after the game.
Speaker 2: In the stadium.
Speaker 4: Can you imagine nobody is doing nothing like that?
Speaker 1: No, but anyway, that's just just an idea to throw
Speaker 1: throw at you next year. No, I'm good, I gotta
Speaker 1: I gotta save my penish what you're saving from because I.
Speaker 2: Don't want to work by saying I don't want to
Speaker 2: do this for the next ten to fifteen years.
Speaker 5: How I'm told you about saving the past two years
Speaker 5: you talk about flying private jets and flying first class.
Speaker 2: I don't want no private jet.
Speaker 5: You flew private telling me you what so you ain't
Speaker 5: fly private? And I told you it made that way way.
Speaker 5: There's no need to waste that kind of money. You
Speaker 5: can get to the same same place from pointing A
Speaker 5: to point B on another airline.
Speaker 2: You forgot about that. You forgot that conversation sometime sometime.
Speaker 2: You know you mean I want to enjoy myself. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I want to enjoy it by slf Oh, so now
Speaker 2: you're then did it one eighty nine about saving money? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I enjoyed myself. So now I got I got saved.
Speaker 2: I like it. I like you. I like the growth.
Speaker 4: Now, if you can get the growth in other areas
Speaker 4: and other fastest of your life.
Speaker 2: We will be all right. Uh.
Speaker 1: Luca changed his mind on long running Lakers fans conspiracy.
Speaker 1: A notable theory had sprung up that opponents are so
Speaker 1: determined to beat them that the injured players intentionally target
Speaker 1: Laker games for their returns. Just yesterday, for instance, Normal
Speaker 1: Powell return from our five game absence to face the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Two games earlier, Dante DiVincenzo, who had missed the previous
Speaker 1: nineteen games. Before that, Dwhite Pole had missed sixteen games.
Speaker 1: Mellow Ball laid in total ten minutes in the last
Speaker 1: three games before the All Star Game, but played thirty
Speaker 1: three against the Lakers. Immediately after, the newest Lakers noted
Speaker 1: that even he has spotted a trend. Lucas laughingly said,
Speaker 1: I didn't believe it before, but they say if somebody's
Speaker 1: out for a long time and then they play against
Speaker 1: the Lakers, So I don't know what to believe'll believe
Speaker 1: at the time, but obviously it's the Lakers, So I.
Speaker 2: Think it's normal. Yeah, think may be coincidence it's the Lakers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think people just coming back shimps because you're
Speaker 4: playing the Lakers.
Speaker 1: Lakers on TV, Lakers will be for what who you
Speaker 1: want to? What I know is that what game that
Speaker 1: I know everybody's gonna watch?
Speaker 2: What game? Do I know it's gonna make sports ceiling? Okay, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got you, I got you.
Speaker 1: I give you to say the head you on team,
Speaker 1: be regardless and not depending on how you play, you
Speaker 1: can be on TV. You know what Lakers? I know
Speaker 1: for certain I'm gonna be on TV if I played
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Okay, I guess that. You that's the even
Speaker 1: though the Lakers are not the champs, you gear up
Speaker 1: to play them.
Speaker 2: That's the Lakers.
Speaker 1: That's Lebron, that's Luca, that was Kobe, that was Shaq,
Speaker 1: that was Magic and Kareem and Worthy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, little gear up to play, y'all.
Speaker 7: A It's so funny, how if you you think about
Speaker 7: the trio that had this mystiquing aura about them, right,
Speaker 7: no matter what goes on, whether whether they're winning, whether
Speaker 7: they're losing, they just have this historical of feeling or
Speaker 7: where everybody either wants to play against them or play
Speaker 7: with them.
Speaker 8: The Yankees, Yeah, the Lakers. Hold on, I almost missed it.
Speaker 8: Yankees Lakers.
Speaker 4: There's there's one more. There's one more to that trio.
Speaker 2: What Baseball Dodgers.
Speaker 5: No, the Dodgers don't have that same that same historic
Speaker 5: feel where where everybody wants to play for mess about
Speaker 5: the cowboys or cowboys. That's what I would thinking of that.
Speaker 5: I didn't want to mention them. I'm sorry, I didn't
Speaker 5: want to mention it. I didn't want to bring them up.
Speaker 4: But again, now you understand for better context and what
Speaker 4: I'm trying to say about those historic franchises.
Speaker 1: LaMelo Ball is the name to watch on the trade
Speaker 1: market this summer. Following Luca Doncis, trade NBA executive around
Speaker 1: the Leaves, has Ay expanded their horizon on which potential
Speaker 1: stars connect to change teams the availability of hornets guard.
Speaker 2: LaMelo Ball is one of the stars.
Speaker 1: Several executives who spoke with who Height will be monitoring
Speaker 1: on the trade market this summer. OJAY should teams be
Speaker 1: interested and traded for LaMelo with his injury history?
Speaker 2: Oh see?
Speaker 5: You know what now that part, Now, when you say that,
Speaker 5: it makes every part of everybody palls. It makes everybody
Speaker 5: think you take away his injury history. Okay, let's say
Speaker 5: you take away his injury history.
Speaker 4: Let's talk about what LaMelo Ball does and gives you
Speaker 4: when he's on the court. He's likes out, he's box office.
Speaker 4: He's one of those individuals.
Speaker 5: You know what with the tickets eight hundred dollars, You
Speaker 5: know what, I don't mind paying eight hundred dollars because
Speaker 5: I know LaMelo Ball is on my team. He's on
Speaker 5: our team. I know what I get when I'm coming
Speaker 5: to watch him. I'm gonna get my money's worth.
Speaker 1: Now, once you factor in his injury history and what
Speaker 1: happens when he's out time to time, you know, Now,
Speaker 1: now you perceive a caution to the win.
Speaker 4: Now that's the bad thing. But listen, anybody can get hurt.
Speaker 2: It happens. It's a game of basketball.
Speaker 5: It's not it's not that much of a as a
Speaker 5: violent sport. It's football, but it's very physical. Injury is
Speaker 5: going to happen, especially in you know LaMelo's small.
Speaker 1: Is this frame, I mean he was six seven, six'
Speaker 1: eighth really thin, frame his ankles or FRAG i mean
Speaker 1: he might have to go through that With.
Speaker 2: Steph Remember steph with the same Way steph stayed.
Speaker 1: Injured that's why he got that Little men contract and
Speaker 1: then he just was able to stay.
Speaker 2: Healthy that might be a. Situation might he might need
Speaker 2: to reach.
Speaker 1: Out to Step it's like Steff, man how did you
Speaker 1: how did you like these ankle? Injuries how did you
Speaker 1: how did you eventually get over? It because, man the
Speaker 1: ain't nothing to play. With you're talking to a guy
Speaker 1: that had ankle injuries in. HELL i THOUGHT i was
Speaker 1: gonna have to retire twenty.
Speaker 2: Six.
Speaker 1: Man, my, my my stuff was, bad, O. Joe you're
Speaker 1: talking about to step on somebody's. ANKLE i can literally
Speaker 1: step on somebody's ankle and my it will blow up
Speaker 1: like a, cander that big A and the worst part
Speaker 1: was doing it on the road because guess, WHAT i.
Speaker 5: Got to get on the plane and fly back. Home
Speaker 5: you know what happened when you get in there with
Speaker 5: that pressure swoll right up even?
Speaker 1: More? Yeah, yeah you KNOW i wore THOSE i wore
Speaker 1: those those. Stockings you, KNOW i put those on both
Speaker 1: of my legs to keep the swelling down because huh
Speaker 1: those white you know those white well you know those those.
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, yeah yea yea yea yeah yeah yeah, yeah
Speaker 6: bad things with your bed because.
Speaker 1: Bad look HERE i get on that, plane, man my
Speaker 1: my knees and ankle swell. Up, yeah, Man BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: REMEMBER i was in uh and uh In, baltimore my
Speaker 1: last year Old, JOE i got my knee drained every,
Speaker 1: week oh wait a, minute every every, week every week
Speaker 1: drained the needle pull Out lucas blood the first the
Speaker 1: first TIME i got the first, TIME i got both
Speaker 1: of them, drained. Ojo they got about one hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty ce seeds off both.
Speaker 6: ANKLES i mean both needs one hundred and thirty. Sees
Speaker 6: you know how much one hundred and thirty se seeds? Here,
Speaker 6: YEAH i know how much you.
Speaker 2: Did how did you.
Speaker 1: Even practice with that moving? AROUND i didn't. Practice that's
Speaker 1: was the. Thing they gave it. OFF i get THE
Speaker 1: i get my knee drained about three hours before the.
Speaker 2: Game, UH i would ice, it try to keep the sweaming.
Speaker 1: Down then they, would you, know put hot, PACKS O,
Speaker 1: joe SO i get get some some mobility in, there,
Speaker 1: right BUT i was GETTING i was probably getting thirty
Speaker 1: forty ce seeds draft drone a, game, Man but.
Speaker 2: Listen you know what let ME.
Speaker 5: I, THINK i Thank god for being able to play
Speaker 5: for a long time with no. Injuries you, know for
Speaker 5: as long as that played and as reckless AS i,
Speaker 5: PLAYED i got hit really, clean one good, time one
Speaker 5: one clean hit in eleven twelve. Years outside of that
Speaker 5: was everything was basically. Normal, like, man listen to some
Speaker 5: of your your, injury.
Speaker 2: YOUR i get something. Done they're LIKE i don't know.
Speaker 1: SHO i, say if IF i shoot it, up, CAD
Speaker 1: i be able to play.
Speaker 2: Right shoot it. Up you get out there and go
Speaker 2: shoot it up both? Shoulders?
Speaker 1: BAD i separated both, shoulders, man about three four shots
Speaker 1: that they put two shots of this with two shots
Speaker 1: in that.
Speaker 2: On BUT i was doing jumping?
Speaker 1: Jack how you separate both? Shoulders rested Sould Dave. DORSON
Speaker 1: i caught a seven. Route safety got to be. Safety, Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh chicag he was with The. Bears he wanted to
Speaker 1: boat with The. Bears he was with The cardinals at the.
Speaker 1: Time so he landed on.
Speaker 2: ME i hit the. Ground? Crack did he landed on
Speaker 2: top of?
Speaker 1: Me? Crack, hey so you did both shoulders at the
Speaker 1: same time at the same.
Speaker 2: Time, good.
Speaker 1: Well if that, is if that is, THAT i was like,
Speaker 1: THIS O, Joe hey the whole. Week, hey they put
Speaker 1: that medicine in. There, yeah and he was. Good did
Speaker 1: you did you wedd?
Speaker 2: It you wed a?
Speaker 1: Harned you were a Hardes let me tell you WHAT i,
Speaker 1: DID O. Joe so we, played we played The. Raiders
Speaker 1: i'm feeling good to Oh, JOE i feel good. Man
Speaker 1: we ran a tongs. Crack we had a forest crack,
Speaker 1: right and it was. RUNNING i think it was. Running
Speaker 1: it might have been. RUNNING i push up the, corner
Speaker 1: the corner retreat safety, MAN i hit. That.
Speaker 2: JOE i, Forget, Oh, JOE i.
Speaker 1: Forgot you, know, normally if you got something, hurt you
Speaker 1: hit her with the opposite.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Decide, well both of them messed. Up SO i just say,
Speaker 1: SO i just say it is what it. Is Why?
Speaker 2: Hoad your tears just start coming down my.
Speaker 1: FACE i, hey well that, thing Oh. JOE i don't
Speaker 1: know if you ever had that, pain but it feels
Speaker 1: like electricity go through your.
Speaker 5: Body, yeah, YEAH i. Know it's like a pinch nerve that.
Speaker 5: Feeling it's not a good. Thing told YOU i did
Speaker 5: like this, here.
Speaker 2: That's A. Greek i'm.
Speaker 1: Done he was out after, that and, yes, man he,
Speaker 1: thought oh that medles out them.
Speaker 2: Shoulders. YEAH i was doad after.
Speaker 1: That. Bad so SO i understand having to deal with
Speaker 1: injury history for three years. STRAIGHT i shot up my
Speaker 1: ankle every. Week SOMETIMES i had to shoot up both of.
Speaker 1: Them it had gotten so. Bad ask anybody that was in.
Speaker 1: There the skin started to come off my ankles from getting,
Speaker 1: it from getting it shot up so. Much, yeah and
Speaker 1: depleted this color LIKE i had Bill. Alago it was
Speaker 1: like as dark AS i, am and it was just
Speaker 1: like pure yellow like.
Speaker 2: White and that's. Funny.
Speaker 5: People you talk about stuff like this and everybody look
Speaker 5: at the listening glamor when it comes to, athletes and
Speaker 5: then you sit down and you able to hear stories
Speaker 5: like this about the sacrifices, anything injuries that you got
Speaker 5: to go.
Speaker 1: And we'll do it all over. Again it's broke down
Speaker 1: AS i, Am i'll do it all over. Again i'll
Speaker 1: take my black ass right back out. There but, Regrets,
Speaker 1: yeah that's not absolutely. Not oh you, look if you
Speaker 1: play this game moment, up there's gonna be times that you're, like,
Speaker 1: MAN i don't know how On, Sunday, Monday, Tuesday i'm, like,
Speaker 1: MAN i ain't no way in Hell i'm gonna be
Speaker 1: able to play Right greek But Greek, greek and tests
Speaker 1: would always like a. Shark just just think, Positive, hey
Speaker 1: we got we don't have to play. Today if we
Speaker 1: had to play, today you probably wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 1: Go but let's how you see how you feel on.
Speaker 1: Tomorrow let's see how you feel On. Thursday let's see
Speaker 1: how they kept that, positive, Like, Hey, sharper how you feel?
Speaker 2: MAN i feel. FATTER i, think, HEY i might Turn.
Speaker 1: Dakola you know What i'm, Saying Oh, joe BECAUSE i
Speaker 1: wanted to play Old.
Speaker 2: Joe. MAN i.
Speaker 1: Know, LOOK i ain't gotta have no TWENTY i ain't no,
Speaker 1: doctor no. LAWYER i can have a twenty five thirty year.
Speaker 1: CAREER i got a finite period of. Time i'm gonna
Speaker 1: try to maximize. It and they let me, know All,
Speaker 1: shannon you know you're shooting up blah, blah long, TERM i, said, Bro,
Speaker 1: bro let me worry about that in thirty. Years right,
Speaker 1: NOW i need to get out. THERE i got people
Speaker 1: depending on, me SO i Wouldn't and that's what they.
Speaker 1: KNOW i got to do WHAT i gotta, Do Oh.
Speaker 1: Joe The bengals franchise TAG T higgins for the second consecutive.
Speaker 1: Year The bengals do not want to Allow higgins to
Speaker 1: hit the fridge and market and will not turn their
Speaker 1: attention to negotiating a long term deal since that it
Speaker 1: has Until july fifteenth to reach a new multi year
Speaker 1: deal With higgins or he'll make a fully guaranteed twenty
Speaker 1: six point two Million since the second time he will get.
Speaker 2: Tagged he will make one hundred and.
Speaker 1: Twenty percent of his twenty twenty four, salary bringing them
Speaker 1: up to twenty six point. Two, right is this a
Speaker 1: deal going to get done or are they making sure
Speaker 1: they get something back on an eventual?
Speaker 2: Trade do you?
Speaker 1: Believe do you believe they're going to Sign tea to
Speaker 1: a long term deal or they're going to try to
Speaker 1: sign it and then trade him and get.
Speaker 2: Compensation you, Know i'm not.
Speaker 5: Sure i'm not sure even even at this point and
Speaker 5: understanding the value that that THAT t will get or
Speaker 5: what his value is right now on the open. MARKET
Speaker 5: i think The bengals understand. THAT i THINK t understands
Speaker 5: that as. Well now also on the right side of.
Speaker 5: Things as A bengal fan, myself true die Hard bengal,
Speaker 5: FAN i would love to see them keep you, know
Speaker 5: keep the tree on. TOGETHER i would love to see
Speaker 5: them keep the band. Together the salary cap went up
Speaker 5: on the, SALARY i think it's like two seventy, nine,
Speaker 5: right it's just two seventy. Nine but WHEN i think about, it,
Speaker 5: Listen Jamar chase is getting ready to be the highest
Speaker 5: paid and reset the quarterback market as far as.
Speaker 2: Contractually SO i understand.
Speaker 5: That Then i'm not sure what they're gonna do With
Speaker 5: joe or is he gonna restruction in some sort of
Speaker 5: way to make wiggle room not only for JUST T,
Speaker 5: higgins but For Trey, henderson for other for other needs
Speaker 5: that need to be. Met higgins is want.
Speaker 1: Thirty, yeah you see the market he thinks seventeen to
Speaker 1: a half sacks for the last two.
Speaker 2: Seasons, yeah you ain't got to tell.
Speaker 4: ME i, KNOW i, know so, boom what's going what's
Speaker 4: going to?
Speaker 2: Happen what's more?
Speaker 5: Important where are the needs that need to be met
Speaker 5: for us as a. TEAM i know fans want to,
Speaker 5: say Bring tea. BACK i LOVE, t BUT i also
Speaker 5: understand what he can. GET i understand its value on
Speaker 5: the open.
Speaker 2: Market. Yeah, now obviously the franchise. Tag you did. It
Speaker 2: you did it to me one.
Speaker 5: Year now when you do it to me one, year
Speaker 5: basically you're telling, me, listen we don't really see the
Speaker 5: value in you and give me a contract long.
Speaker 4: Term so we're gonna do is Is we're gonna tag,
Speaker 4: you and.
Speaker 2: That means betting against.
Speaker 4: You, yeah to talk to me please for people.
Speaker 1: That because if you, thought if you THOUGHT i was
Speaker 1: what if if you think of me WHAT i think of,
Speaker 1: me you give me the, deal.
Speaker 5: It wouldn't have been no questions, asked and then would
Speaker 5: have got done last year and now double back come
Speaker 5: this year.
Speaker 2: AGAIN T higgins great, year big, game stepped up.
Speaker 1: Huge, yeah he only played TWELVE i think he only
Speaker 1: played twelve games On, joe but he still had ten. Touchdowns,
Speaker 1: yes let's talk about. It always like seventy. Five he
Speaker 1: averaged like seventy five yards a game. Receiver so if
Speaker 1: you excrapolate that over the full seventeen, games we know
Speaker 1: what type of season he would have.
Speaker 2: Even With chase doing what he.
Speaker 1: Did and that's the that you run, into, oyo when
Speaker 1: you keep pushing The cans down the. Road, okay you,
Speaker 1: pushed you Kicked Jamar Chase can down the road and
Speaker 1: gives the Triple.
Speaker 2: Crown, okay you wouldn't do anything With.
Speaker 1: Hendrickson now he led the league in sacks back to
Speaker 1: the back, season which he's had seventeen and a.
Speaker 2: Half, okay you franchise TAG T.
Speaker 1: Higgins now he follows that up and he's, like y'all
Speaker 1: got to pay me because you See Jyalen waddle with
Speaker 1: years left on his, contract got twenty. Eight y'all mean
Speaker 1: to tell, Me i'm at the end of my, contract
Speaker 1: and y'all think franchising me at twenty six is.
Speaker 2: Good NOW i need guaranteed.
Speaker 1: MONEY i need like seventy five million fully guaranteed the first.
Speaker 2: Year now we can talk.
Speaker 5: Curious, normally most of the time teams use a franchise
Speaker 5: tag to their. Advantage not only is the lack of,
Speaker 5: player but when you do it for a second, Year
Speaker 5: i'm trying.
Speaker 2: To buy myself some.
Speaker 1: Time, yeah igiinst, You i'm bad that you won't have
Speaker 1: another year like, that because what good is?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Oo if he has another year like, that maybe you
Speaker 1: want a Super bowl that, said, well we got a
Speaker 1: Super bowl lot that we can let him, go.
Speaker 2: Right that's because at.
Speaker 1: Some point in, time if you're drafting the type of
Speaker 1: player that you believe you, are you're not gonna be
Speaker 1: able to keep them all with. You it's just it's
Speaker 1: just it's. Impractical you're not gonna be able to Keep
Speaker 1: chase at. Forty you're not gonna Keep joe at fifty.
Speaker 1: Five you're not gonna Be. Hendrickson he wants. Thirty T
Speaker 1: higgins won't. Thirty excuse, me are you glad you're good.
Speaker 2: At? That at that? Number now they got a little
Speaker 2: bit more cap. Space they Waved Alice.
Speaker 1: Kappall uh the GUARD i guess he had a bad.
Speaker 1: YEAR i, mean looking at, it he gave up most,
Speaker 1: sacks most, precious most.
Speaker 2: Hurries so it was it, was it was pretty. Bad.
Speaker 1: Uh Jamar chase posted this cryptic creed Of Joe burrow On.
Speaker 2: Instagram what at T? Higgins if you can see it
Speaker 2: on your? Screen he like.
Speaker 5: Even the players as fas as, fans fans And bengal,
Speaker 5: fans they always come To they don't understand the difference
Speaker 5: in how the players feel from the business side of,
Speaker 5: things as opposed to how the fans. Feel the fans, Think,
Speaker 5: oh it's so, easy the cap is going, Up they're
Speaker 5: gonna sign. Everybody, listen if you look at the, reactions
Speaker 5: you look at the reactions FROM, ta you look at
Speaker 5: the reactions From Jamar, chase it tells you that things
Speaker 5: aren't as sweet as you think on the.
Speaker 2: Outside looking at listen to how the cap numbers have gone.
Speaker 5: Up, look you have to think The bengals have a
Speaker 5: franchise to, run saying they did not think about, now
Speaker 5: they think about the foresea of your, future you, know
Speaker 5: when it comes to their, books.
Speaker 1: AND i GUARANTEE i will long term guaranteed.
Speaker 5: Money, well, listen they they got they got To july
Speaker 5: to get it. Done they got To july to get it. Done,
Speaker 5: now me as much AS.
Speaker 2: I want you to, STAY i LOVE. T i love my,
Speaker 2: BANGLES i love the.
Speaker 5: Organization matter of, FACT i love the fans that argue
Speaker 5: with me back and.
Speaker 2: Forth zim.
Speaker 5: Hoo THEY i know you're probably gonna see. THIS i
Speaker 5: love you, too and and and everybody. Else BUT i
Speaker 5: just don't see it happening based on WHAT t is
Speaker 5: deserving of and What chase is going to be making.
Speaker 2: Going north to. Forty oh he, is he's resetting the.
Speaker 4: Market huh, yeah he's a simple.
Speaker 2: Fact you.
Speaker 3: Made you made.
Speaker 1: Me wait you dra, ME t, Said i'll tell you
Speaker 1: what y'all like, that twenty six point. Two give me
Speaker 1: that in guaranteed. Money mm. Hmm give me eighty million
Speaker 1: full of, guarantee and then y'all can put it have
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: To BUT i need to MAKE i need to.
Speaker 1: MAKE i need to make eighty million in the first
Speaker 1: to make eighty million in the first three, years Thought, Joe.
Speaker 2: Yeah we're. Good we can we can, talk we can,
Speaker 2: talk we can.
Speaker 1: Play LIKE i need to make eighty. Million, hey give
Speaker 1: me an eighty give me eighty million dollars sided. Bonus
Speaker 1: and THEN i. Played the first YEAR i played for
Speaker 1: like one point. Two THEN i play for five, million
Speaker 1: and the next YEAR i play for. Ten, yeah give
Speaker 1: me give me, finish y'all fake twenty six. Million everybody, Talk,
Speaker 1: okay just go ahead and give me.
Speaker 4: That, yeah and give give me a nice lump sum
Speaker 4: and signing bonus.
Speaker 1: Too now give me, all give, me give, me give,
Speaker 1: me give me seventy million side the. Bonus give me
Speaker 1: some security, NOW i need less stagg in case something,
Speaker 1: happened just in, case BECAUSE i ain't going to the
Speaker 1: lords Of.
Speaker 2: London well take.
Speaker 1: That, hey IF i If i'm, chased chase, saying y'all
Speaker 1: maybe take this ten million dollar in churance. Policy i'm
Speaker 1: gonna factor that in when y'all, Negotiate so y'all will
Speaker 1: give me that back time IF i have to take
Speaker 1: out another.
Speaker 5: One at some point in. Time, hey, listen the game
Speaker 5: is a. Game this is the, football and this is
Speaker 5: WHY i wouldn't want to be on. HER i wouldn't
Speaker 5: want to be A. GM i wouldn't want to be
Speaker 5: in a position Of Katie, Blackburn Mike, Brown Troy blackburn.
Speaker 4: In a situation like this with a team this, great
Speaker 4: where players this great and it's.
Speaker 2: Time to pay, WELL i just wouldn't want to. Be
Speaker 2: you have to be ahead of the. Curvel do you
Speaker 2: Believe Team. Higgett let me ask you a.
Speaker 1: Question do you Believe chase in the next three to
Speaker 1: five years will not be a top three? Receiver if
Speaker 1: you don't be if you believe he will be a
Speaker 1: top three, receiver you signed him last year because you're
Speaker 1: paying him based on what you believe he's going to
Speaker 1: do moving, forward not what he's done in.
Speaker 2: The, past Because i've already paid you for.
Speaker 1: That so IF i give you thirty five thirty six million,
Speaker 1: dollars that's BECAUSE i believe you're going to be a
Speaker 1: top three receiver and in two years this money be.
Speaker 1: Obsolete NOW i got you for another two, YEARS O
Speaker 1: joe at thirty six, million when to go and race
Speaker 1: from probably be forty forty three.
Speaker 2: Million, see so that's what you have to.
Speaker 1: Do you have, to like a lot of times, Though,
Speaker 1: joe you have to buy something like, man look, here
Speaker 1: what people what if you were doing investment people by.
Speaker 1: Goal people buy commodities based don't believe they're going to go.
Speaker 2: Higher so at this, price although it seems, STEEP.
Speaker 1: I buy it for a little when it moves. Up,
Speaker 1: NOW i got it. Right and that's how you have
Speaker 1: to look at these. Players Michael Park, dude you, okay
Speaker 1: you Saw michael With Defensive rookie of The year and
Speaker 1: he's been in THE mvy the defensive player your discussion.
Speaker 2: Question, yeah why are we waiting to this man get all.
Speaker 1: The way to the end of his contract before we
Speaker 1: think about doing it again a long term.
Speaker 2: Deal all you did was let the price keep going.
Speaker 1: Up yesterday's price is NOT a day's price is definitely.
Speaker 2: Not definitely.
Speaker 5: Not and, LISTEN i wanted to GET i want them
Speaker 5: to work things, out BUT i also understand how the
Speaker 5: business side of things. Work, yes yet everybody yelling about the,
Speaker 5: cap the cap going, up the cap being. Hot have
Speaker 5: The bengals of everyone to spin all the way up
Speaker 5: to the? Cap oh, no so let let's let's let's start.
Speaker 5: There had they you, know we were screaming over the
Speaker 5: cap is. Going is this is THAT i, mean, listen
Speaker 5: this is still a business that has to be.
Speaker 4: Running, yes this Ain't, madden this is this is real.
Speaker 1: Life you see What Howwie roseman. Does you see what
Speaker 1: he did with? You see what he did With? Devonte,
Speaker 1: yeah you see what he did with You. Ajt see
Speaker 1: what they did With, hurts got him, early and what
Speaker 1: he did is that he's, Like, Okay Sa, kuan we'll
Speaker 1: give you. This if you get these, incentives not only
Speaker 1: will you get him for this, year it'll automatically go
Speaker 1: onto your contract next. Year so that one point five
Speaker 1: one point seven fifty. Me so now Sat quand's gonna
Speaker 1: make almost fourteen million. Dollars it's those numbers next. Year
Speaker 1: guess what that third year of the, Contract now there's
Speaker 1: a chance.
Speaker 2: He goes out and haves a another.
Speaker 1: Year i'm not saying you're gonna go for two, thousand
Speaker 1: but have another good. Year how we might, say you know,
Speaker 1: what to keep that cap number, Down let's go.
Speaker 2: Ahead and get add a couple more years to.
Speaker 4: It give you nice signing bonus right up.
Speaker 2: Front so that's how you have to do, IT O.
Speaker 1: Joe you have to have some forward thinking because if
Speaker 1: you wait till LIKE i don't, KNOW i don't, know
Speaker 1: by the time you realize The god's, good it's gonna
Speaker 1: be cost prohibitive for you to sign your.
Speaker 5: Players, well, listen the guys we talk, about there's nothing to,
Speaker 5: realize you know what they do because the, film the
Speaker 5: film don't. Lie they did it in, college they got
Speaker 5: to THE, nfl and they kept on doing.
Speaker 2: It they ain't missed the.
Speaker 5: Beat let me talking About Chase i'm not sure why
Speaker 5: he didn't pay him last. Year there was nothing wrong
Speaker 5: With tea understanding what you.
Speaker 2: Got you, know for the fourth year of the.
Speaker 5: Future we talk about two top, one one top three,
Speaker 5: player and we have another one that arguably could be
Speaker 5: in the top, ten you know as WHAT i like
Speaker 5: to call it ONE b DON'T i don't see t As.
Speaker 2: No. Two that just me because.
Speaker 4: Anywhere else on any other, Team tea cans.
Speaker 2: Will be a number one mm. Hm but anyway that
Speaker 2: either here nor. THERE i hope to get the. JOB
Speaker 2: i hope that he get the job. DONE i really.
Speaker 2: DO I.
Speaker 1: The eagles are going to release six Time Pro bowl
Speaker 1: Corner Darius.
Speaker 2: Slay after five seasons with the.
Speaker 1: Teams The eagles initially acquired Slave ville trade With detroit
Speaker 1: in the twenty, twenty immediately signing the cornerback to a
Speaker 1: three year. Extension slay thirty four is coming off one
Speaker 1: of his best seasons of his.
Speaker 2: Career he allowed a.
Speaker 1: Forty two percent completion, rate allowed five point four yards per,
Speaker 1: target had fifteen pass, breakups are all his best marks
Speaker 1: since joining The Eagles in twenty twenty, Four The eagles
Speaker 1: allowed a league low one hundred and seventy four yards
Speaker 1: passing per, game the LOWEST bi franchise since the since two.
Speaker 1: Thousand who's At tennessee since at least two? THOUSAND i Think.
Speaker 1: TENNESSEE i think they beat The ravens that year because
Speaker 1: we allowed The ravens allowed sixty like sixty something Yards,
Speaker 1: russian BUT i think the average like gave up two
Speaker 1: hundred sixty. Yards tennessee actually statistically had a Better, Huh,
Speaker 1: oh you're talking? About that was the what do you call?
Speaker 1: Him The eagles? Franchise? OH i thought he was talking
Speaker 1: about the lowest since two thousand by any. Franchise, okay
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i Know tennessee pass defense in two, thousand they
Speaker 1: only gave up two hundred and forty two yards a.
Speaker 2: Game Oh.
Speaker 1: Joe but he always said that if he didn't finish
Speaker 1: his career ended In, philly he would love to go
Speaker 1: back To.
Speaker 2: Detroit detroit was an original.
Speaker 1: Team, obviously he had some issues With Matt, patricia who's
Speaker 1: now the defensive coordinator Of Ohio. State, hey he goes To,
Speaker 1: philly had a great you, know go to To then
Speaker 1: he went to a bunch Of Pro. Bowls they went
Speaker 1: the Two Super, bowls they won this pass. One, so,
Speaker 1: uh could you see him going back To? DETROIT i think?
Speaker 1: SO i think so why?
Speaker 5: Not especially with what happened from an injury standpoint to
Speaker 5: The Detroit lions to on the back half of the.
Speaker 2: SEASON i like.
Speaker 5: IT i like, It And i'm also trying to think
Speaker 5: about why not running back with as well as he
Speaker 5: played last year with The. Eagles BUT i can't even
Speaker 5: talk About Jeffy lewie And Harry robins and when it
Speaker 5: comes to that decision making key mental, obviously they're now
Speaker 5: passing the torch and the keys to.
Speaker 1: Him, no he's on one. Side they passed the keys
Speaker 1: To cooper de Jon at ooh see, Rookie oh he,
Speaker 1: ready he ready to be a.
Speaker 2: Starter. Nay.
Speaker 5: Listen, honestly he played, well, right he played very, well
Speaker 5: but he played well based on everything else going on around.
Speaker 5: Him if he actually ready after his rookie season despite
Speaker 5: them winning The Super, bowl that being that in that
Speaker 5: spot like, that when you got to see the number
Speaker 5: one receiver at times you you have to see maybe
Speaker 5: the number two.
Speaker 2: Receiver is he ready for?
Speaker 1: That you can't keep? Everybody, Oh, JOE i mean what
Speaker 1: you're gonna do With? Braun you're gonna pay? Him he
Speaker 1: gonna want The Kings.
Speaker 2: Ransom? Yeah oh he was a nice okay?
Speaker 1: Swear what about you got two d linemen that could
Speaker 1: potentially leave you Got Jayleen carter coming up, Now, hey
Speaker 1: he gonna want The Kings. Ransom, hey and well deserved
Speaker 1: of everything you. Got mitchigo gonna be coming down the
Speaker 1: pipeline On. Joe he gonna want The Kings. Ransom, NO
Speaker 1: i understand you know the chat saying they gonna keep
Speaker 1: The johanna at a. Nickel, Yeah they're gonna put him
Speaker 1: at corner and then and guess, What they're gonna start
Speaker 1: him at corner and then when they go three, six
Speaker 1: he gonna bump inside the Min but.
Speaker 5: Then who who whos gonna be the Other who's gonna
Speaker 5: be the other? Corner, hey, listen playing on the outside
Speaker 5: and playing a. Nickel but that's a different ball, game,
Speaker 5: baby that's a that's a different ball.
Speaker 2: Game drafted that man to play.
Speaker 1: Corner they found out that he's really good at the,
Speaker 1: nickel and so guess, what they put him. Inside they'll
Speaker 1: put him inside the situation and they'll bring somebody else.
Speaker 2: Up be.
Speaker 1: Safe you remember what's the guy's, name O? Joe he
Speaker 1: ended up going To. Tennessee he ended up going To
Speaker 1: tennessee from The Kansas city the. Area, Yep. Sneid what
Speaker 1: did they? Do they drafted a. Corner, Yeah sneid was really.
Speaker 1: Good they they put, him they put him. Inside, yeah
Speaker 1: what did they do after the? Season they ended up
Speaker 1: signing trading. Him and now you Got washington and you got. McDuffie, okay,
Speaker 1: see y'all just looking see, fans y'all gotta stop looking at.
Speaker 1: It that's not how teams look at. It they drafted
Speaker 1: guy a, corner, okay. Damn and they got a slave
Speaker 1: getting a little, older thirty four years of.
Speaker 2: Age that's a little old for a.
Speaker 1: Corner but he played extremely, well, now maybe maybe it's
Speaker 1: a situation that you, know come, BACK i would go
Speaker 1: test the market now IF i couldn't find something. Suitable
Speaker 1: IF i, go IF i got to play for three,
Speaker 1: Million i'll play for three million In.
Speaker 2: Philly ain't gonna play for three me BECAUSE i know
Speaker 2: we're gonna.
Speaker 1: Win but at least let me go kick the tire
Speaker 1: somewhere else because somebody else might have some.
Speaker 2: Money, Fubby oh.
Speaker 1: Joke, hey that's that's that's, tea that's t. Unc do
Speaker 1: you understand? It AND i mean no disrespect to my
Speaker 1: fans In. CINCINNATI i love, you every last.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 4: Eve do you understand what's gonna make it if you
Speaker 4: get on the open.
Speaker 2: Market come, on, man he's deserving it that he worked too.
Speaker 2: Hard you and.
Speaker 5: Me think about the sacrifices you just told me about
Speaker 5: that you went through to even touch the.
Speaker 4: Field what you think he got a story to all
Speaker 4: of us got a?
Speaker 2: Story? Yeah, sure we want that sense of.
Speaker 4: Security allow him to see it because you.
Speaker 5: Didn't you didn't believe in. Him here before you know,
Speaker 5: WHAT i want you to fool with. Him were gonna tag.
Speaker 5: You we gonna tag you because we don't value giving
Speaker 5: you a long term. Contract we don't because if you
Speaker 5: did value, me you thought of what you think of
Speaker 5: HOW i think about myself as a player and as a,
Speaker 5: receiver that would have been no issue was paying.
Speaker 4: Me now you tag me again two years in a.
Speaker 4: Row what did that tem?
Speaker 1: Be oh, joe that's but see o, joe that's the
Speaker 1: Players association you agreed to.
Speaker 5: That, well, listen you have to understand when it comes
Speaker 5: to the franchise, tag you got twenty one hundred some.
Speaker 4: Players let the stick with me real. Quick now chat,
Speaker 4: y'all stay with me real. Quick you got twenty one hundred,
Speaker 4: twenties maybe twenty two hundred.
Speaker 5: Players when it comes to the franchise tag we talked
Speaker 5: about it only happens maybe to six eight, players six to,
Speaker 5: eight no more, eight no nor. Eight now actually going
Speaker 5: in to fight with something for such a small percentage
Speaker 5: of players that is, required that's where where it's.
Speaker 2: Used you, know year any year and a year.
Speaker 5: Out, uh do we want to fight for something like
Speaker 5: that because sometimes it's that advantage for the players and
Speaker 5: for the team as, well sometime buying you a little
Speaker 5: bit more time so we can get a deal. Done
Speaker 5: now in this, case when it comes to. TEA i
Speaker 5: don't like the way to take advantage of him because
Speaker 5: if you don't want to get you want to pay.
Speaker 5: Him he was done the first. Time don't to me, again.
Speaker 2: Oh, joe me.
Speaker 1: Twice but that's but, see that's where you have to
Speaker 1: be unselfish because a lot of, time for the very
Speaker 1: REASON i remember when they first started talking about lifetime.
Speaker 1: Benefits there are a lot of promeny guys And i'm
Speaker 1: not gonna call their. Name give me a million dollars
Speaker 1: AND i buy my own health. Insurance how that work
Speaker 1: out for the same thing you just. Said there are
Speaker 1: so few guys that say, Bad i'm never gonna get
Speaker 1: the franchise tag until they get the franchise.
Speaker 2: Tag and now look at.
Speaker 1: You and to a, point Oh joe Kurk, flood he
Speaker 1: never benefited from free, agency, right he lost you basically
Speaker 1: lost his, career so everybody else got free.
Speaker 2: Agency Spencer, Haywood, Right sometimes you have to.
Speaker 1: Sacrifice there are a lot of people that sacrifice for
Speaker 1: the greater, good even though they weren't there.
Speaker 2: To rip to reap the.
Speaker 1: BENEFITS a Doctor, king A MALCOLM, x so many of
Speaker 1: the freedom, FIGHTERS a lot of people sacrifice that didn't
Speaker 1: get the benefit of the, sacrifice, right that's what sacrifice.
Speaker 2: Means like, THAT i like the where you put. THAT
Speaker 2: i like where you put.
Speaker 1: That so, now, Okay i'll tell you what y'all want
Speaker 1: two franchise.
Speaker 2: Tags we want lifetime health.
Speaker 1: Benefits, yeah that's a good one because we don't have
Speaker 1: you get one franchise. Tag but you can't franchise me.
Speaker 1: AGAIN i GOT i. Need you, KNOW i already gave
Speaker 1: you a bigger. Concession now you get a bigger piece
Speaker 1: of the poet. OWNERS i got to close something, back right.
Speaker 2: Right it got to be beneficial.
Speaker 1: For lifetime health benefits or we got to do away
Speaker 1: with the franchise tag one or the. Other, yes and
Speaker 1: even if we don't get, LIFETIME i need at least
Speaker 1: ten fifteen, Years oh. Joe if the AVERAGE nfl career
Speaker 1: is three is three. Years, Yeah so the AVERAGE nfl
Speaker 1: player coming in at twenty two to twenty, three, Right
Speaker 1: so that means a vested player with three, years he's
Speaker 1: done at twenty, five twenty, Six oh, joe he gets
Speaker 1: five years of health benefits at thirty, one he's.
Speaker 2: Done, yeah he only hopefully.
Speaker 1: If like the average life expectan see if someone is
Speaker 1: like seventy five, years so he got another forty plus.
Speaker 2: Years.
Speaker 1: Woo but the guys don't think like, THAT O. Joe
Speaker 1: that money coming in so good and you're, like, HEY
Speaker 1: i will be. Able but when you don't have money
Speaker 1: coming in and you have it going, out and you
Speaker 1: get if you get a serious, injury you get a
Speaker 1: form of, cancer you get a, treatment it'll wipe your savings,
Speaker 1: out just like.
Speaker 2: That make you up real quick, too just like.
Speaker 1: That and with the price the, surgeries the price of the,
Speaker 1: medicine some medicine costing you twin fifteen twenty thousand a.
Speaker 5: Month especially, now especially, Now, hey oh my, god just
Speaker 5: the thought of.
Speaker 4: That huh, yeah how much you say medicine?
Speaker 6: Costs how much a? Month some of it's like ten,
Speaker 6: fifteen twenty fours in a. Month some of them cancer,
Speaker 6: Drugs my. GOODNESS i mean look AT i mean.
Speaker 2: Insulin look at. Insulin what's the insulin costs?
Speaker 1: You and people need two three injections a, Day the
Speaker 1: volume