WEBVTT - You Know What?  That's Rude.

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center. Jack Armstrong and Joe Ketty, I'm strong

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<v Speaker 1>and Jay and he I'm strong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>We have fires almost almost three sixty around us here

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<v Speaker 2>are different properties just on fire for hours. These winds

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<v Speaker 2>definitely from when we first came here have picked up

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. It seems like this has been burning just

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<v Speaker 2>I think, I believe since last night. And so fire

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<v Speaker 2>writers trying to do their absolute best. But as far

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<v Speaker 2>as a reporter's perspective, out here, while we are safe

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<v Speaker 2>and we do have protective gear, it is very difficult,

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<v Speaker 2>very smoky out here, a lot of ash. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we have protective gear to cover our eyes and our mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>but it is just impossible to be out here if

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<v Speaker 2>you do not have here.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes it tough.

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<v Speaker 3>Thirty thousand people evacuated their homes so far in the

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<v Speaker 3>LA area, starting yesterday morning and going all throughout the day,

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<v Speaker 3>in the night and expecting the one hundred mile an

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<v Speaker 3>hour winds to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Throughout the day.

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<v Speaker 3>It says there on Fox, as I look at the

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<v Speaker 3>TV screen with some giant mansion burning behind the guy,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean an enormous house that looks to be burning

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<v Speaker 3>to the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>That's quite a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I don't know where Fox is getting that number.

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<v Speaker 4>The winds are very high and there are some extraordinary gusts. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 4>Joe downplaying the thread of the fire in La No.

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<v Speaker 4>Just the idea that they're one hundred mile for hour

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<v Speaker 4>winds all day is just I don't think that's so.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not there with a measuring thing, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 3>it on like four different outlets so far today because

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<v Speaker 3>I know it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be very, very windy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So maybe you missed this during the two week break.

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<v Speaker 1>This was.

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<v Speaker 3>The moment that a whole bunch of MAGA people turned

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<v Speaker 3>on Elon, and from what I can tell from when

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<v Speaker 3>I dip into those circles, it has continued. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>an interesting thing, and it's all around the whole immigration thing.

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<v Speaker 3>As you know, Elon himself is an immigrant, came to

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<v Speaker 3>this country as a rocket engineer, and he has talked

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<v Speaker 3>at length about this and many many interviews and how

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<v Speaker 3>he came here because it's a land opportunity where he could,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, start a business and do its thing in

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<v Speaker 3>a way he can't anywhere else in the in the world,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's why the United States is the greatest country.

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<v Speaker 3>Blah blah blah blah blah. And the guy that's working

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<v Speaker 3>with him on Doge, vivivive Aramaswami, has got a very

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<v Speaker 3>similar story. Also became a billionaire. And when Trump was

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<v Speaker 3>talking about deporting people in the immigration situation and everything,

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<v Speaker 3>Elon was talking about how we need, you know, talent

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<v Speaker 3>here in the United States, so let's, you know, let's

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<v Speaker 3>come up with a way to make sure we have people.

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<v Speaker 3>And then there was a big pushback from some of

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<v Speaker 3>the MAGA crowd because they want they don't they want

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<v Speaker 3>to really restrict immigration a lot. So Vivek puts out

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<v Speaker 3>this tweet, this really really long tweet that I won't

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<v Speaker 3>read all of and then we'll discuss it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>But it came out, I don't know, two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 3>The reason top tech companies often hire foreign born and

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<v Speaker 3>first generation engineers over native Americans isn't because of an

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<v Speaker 3>eight American IQ deficit, a lazy and wrong explanation. A

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<v Speaker 3>key part of it comes down to the C word culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Tough questions demand tough answers. And if we're really serious

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<v Speaker 3>about fixing the problem, we have to confront the truth.

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<v Speaker 3>Our American culture, I like him calling it our Our

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<v Speaker 3>American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long,

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<v Speaker 3>at least since the nineties and likely longer. That doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>start in college, it starts young. I gotta say before

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<v Speaker 3>I get back to Viveks, we've been talking about this

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. It bothers me a lot. I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's a huge problem we've got in the United States.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't don't know how at least that part of it

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<v Speaker 3>is controversial at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and part of it's the whole equity crowd that

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<v Speaker 4>or disparate impact. If anybody does better than anyone else,

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<v Speaker 4>that's absolute, irrefutable evidence that somebody cheated or wronged somebody,

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<v Speaker 4>or there is racism afoot. And so that turned very

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<v Speaker 4>quickly into demonizing or being suspicious of any sort of

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<v Speaker 4>excellence or success, which is a terrible way to look

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<v Speaker 4>at life.

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<v Speaker 3>Back to Vivek, A culture that celebrates the prom queen

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<v Speaker 3>over the math Olympiad champ, or the jock over the

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<v Speaker 3>valedictorian will not produce the best engineers. A culture that venerates. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not going to get all these references. I only

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<v Speaker 3>get some of them. A culture that venerates Corey from

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<v Speaker 3>Boy Meets World, or Zach and Slater over Screech and

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<v Speaker 3>Saved by the Bell, or Stefan over Steve Erkele and

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<v Speaker 3>family matters will not produce the best engineers. Fact, I

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<v Speaker 3>know multiple sets of immigrant parents in the nineties who

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<v Speaker 3>actively limited how much their kids could watch those TV

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<v Speaker 3>shows precisely because they promoted media I and their kids

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<v Speaker 3>went on to become wildly successful STEM graduates. Then he

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<v Speaker 3>mentions a couple more movies, TV shows and cartoons that

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<v Speaker 3>he doesn't think is good for our culture. We need

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<v Speaker 3>more weekend science competitions, fewer Saturday morning cartoons, more books,

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<v Speaker 3>less TV, more creating, less chillin', more extracurriculars, less hanging

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<v Speaker 3>out at the mall. Most normal American parents look skeptically

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<v Speaker 3>at those kind of parents. More normal Americans could view

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<v Speaker 3>those kind of kids with scorn. If you grow up

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<v Speaker 3>aspiring to normalcy, normalcy is what you will achieve. Now

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<v Speaker 3>close your eyes and visualize which families you knew in

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<v Speaker 3>the nineties or even now, who raise their kids according

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<v Speaker 3>to one model versus the other, be brutally honest. Normalcy

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't cut it in a hyper competitive global market for

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<v Speaker 3>technical talent, and if we pretend like it does, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>have our asses handed to us by China. This could

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<v Speaker 3>be our spotnik moment right for Vacan, then I will stop.

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<v Speaker 3>We've awakened from our slumber before and we can do

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<v Speaker 3>it again. Trump's election hopefully marks the beginning of a

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<v Speaker 3>new golden era in America, but only if our culture

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<v Speaker 3>fully wakes up, a culture that once again prioritizes achievement

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<v Speaker 3>over normalcy, excellence over mediocrity, nerdness over conformity, hard work

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<v Speaker 3>over laziness. Tremendous amount of pushback to that, I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>people went crazy interesting. I didn't really follow the pushback

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<v Speaker 3>over the criticizing of American culture that way. And then

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<v Speaker 3>it got into the H one B visas and all

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of stuff, and then you get down to

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<v Speaker 3>the nitty gritty where it's very, very complicated, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know much about it, but we have had many

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<v Speaker 3>people tell this over the years whenever this topic has

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<v Speaker 3>come up. Hey, businesses, hire these people from other countries,

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<v Speaker 3>because there's all kinds of tax advantages to hire in

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<v Speaker 3>the foreigner over the American with the same qualifications, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can't get rid of them where they can't leave,

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<v Speaker 3>so you have all kinds of leverage over them because

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<v Speaker 3>of the way the visa system works.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember it was about a decade ago there

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<v Speaker 4>was a big controversy over this in Silicon Valley and

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<v Speaker 4>we got the word directly from a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 4>who worked in that Look, these guys will work for

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<v Speaker 4>half what an American engineer will work for, and they

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<v Speaker 4>will live in a dorm with eight of their fellows

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<v Speaker 4>and sleep in a bunk bed and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's whither so attractive. It's not that they're better or

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<v Speaker 4>work harder, it's that they're cheaper. Now, that was a

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<v Speaker 4>while ago. I haven't heard directly from anybody for some time.

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<v Speaker 4>That is certainly a factor. Yeah, an EH one B thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and I just found this out yesterday.

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<v Speaker 3>Part of the agreement with the H one B thing

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<v Speaker 3>as you stay with your employer for a certain amount

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<v Speaker 3>of time or something like that, so you're stuck there,

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<v Speaker 3>so you know they don't have to give you raises

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<v Speaker 3>or whatever. Another advantage you can't quit.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't. So that's a separate question from a separate question.

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<v Speaker 1>Greater point.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they all got tied together and just a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of people being butt hurt, I guess over American

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<v Speaker 3>culture being disparaged.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't bother me. I think it's absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 3>I worry about it with my own kids, and and

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<v Speaker 3>I know plenty of my kids have friends who are

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<v Speaker 3>growing up with parents from other countries, and they are

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<v Speaker 3>way more serious about edge than I am with my kids,

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<v Speaker 3>and I am embarrassed by that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, it's funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I was thinking about this in a different context, specifically

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<v Speaker 4>the Mark Zuckerberg Facebook fact checker censorship thing, and how

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<v Speaker 4>everything's either got to be entirely good or entirely bad.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm either for it or against it. In our politics

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<v Speaker 4>a lot too, there's very little recognition that everything is

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<v Speaker 4>a trade off. Everything in life practically and in this

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<v Speaker 4>deal in Vivex screed, there's a good deal of truth there,

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<v Speaker 4>a whole lot. Now, is that some sort of I

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<v Speaker 4>hate America and every kid should be a hard driving

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<v Speaker 4>tech student. Well, no, of course, not take it with

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<v Speaker 4>a grain of salt. Seek the truth that's in his statement,

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<v Speaker 4>and the part you don't like you can toss, but

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<v Speaker 4>you don't have to hate him for saying it. I don't, Well,

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<v Speaker 4>everybody's so mad all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any way of knowing how true that is.

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<v Speaker 3>I do know some people from Asian countries where it

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<v Speaker 3>is absolutely completely true. They've explained it to me on

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<v Speaker 3>how you are the rock star of the school, if

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<v Speaker 3>you're the math kid, the science kid, to whatever, you're

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<v Speaker 3>the coolest person in the school. We all know that's

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<v Speaker 3>not true in the United States for the most part,

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<v Speaker 3>but I don't know is that true in Europe or

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<v Speaker 3>is that limited to like Vietnam and South Korea in

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<v Speaker 3>places like that. I don't have any idea of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't either.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm thinking about Europe probably Europe has its own problems

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<v Speaker 4>culturally speaking, certainly don't want to imitate them.

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<v Speaker 3>A high school in France. Are you better off being

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<v Speaker 3>the soccer star than the math nerd or like the

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<v Speaker 3>United States?

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<v Speaker 1>Or is it more like in.

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<v Speaker 3>Other countries I was mentioned were it's an academic thing.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know the answer to these things.

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<v Speaker 1>But.

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<v Speaker 4>It is odd that that's what we have gravitated toward.

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<v Speaker 4>And I wasn't familiar with some of those pop culture

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<v Speaker 4>references either. I didn't watch that stuff very much. I

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<v Speaker 4>was too busy studying my physics and computer sign learning

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<v Speaker 4>to code.

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<v Speaker 1>But I tell you what does ring true, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>food for thought. At least.

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<v Speaker 4>What rings true is the idea that in popular culture,

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<v Speaker 4>the quick witted, wise acre guy and I do it

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<v Speaker 4>for a living. So believe me, I'm not denigrating communication

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<v Speaker 4>ability or certainly leadership ability, the ability to draw people

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<v Speaker 4>around you, the ability to charisma. In short, it's not worthless.

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<v Speaker 4>But in popular culture that person is revered, and the

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<v Speaker 4>fairly shy may be socially not as capable technical wizard

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<v Speaker 4>is an object of mockery. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 4>that means, but it does mean something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it bothers me a lot. Like my son, my youngest,

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<v Speaker 3>we play chess a lot. He's pretty good at chess,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've been really pushing him.

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<v Speaker 4>It's actually not pronounced chess to Michael. There's no tea there,

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<v Speaker 4>and I've been pushing him to try to like get

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<v Speaker 4>into chess.

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<v Speaker 3>And I happen to live in a town where they're

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<v Speaker 3>like chess coaches and stuff like that. And he said, dead,

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<v Speaker 3>every TV show you ever watch, every movie, the chess

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<v Speaker 3>kid is the nerd. I'm not gonna do that. And

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<v Speaker 3>I just I hate that that's the culture. I've been

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<v Speaker 3>trying to talk him out of that, but I just

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<v Speaker 3>I just hate that that's the case.

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<v Speaker 4>Which brings us back to my grand unified theory of

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<v Speaker 4>the modern world, and that is that ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 4>of everything we observed which formed our thoughts and beliefs

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<v Speaker 4>in all of human history up until like ten minutes ago,

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<v Speaker 4>was direct personal experience, your eyes, your ears, your senses.

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<v Speaker 4>And then once in a while you'd get a letter

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<v Speaker 4>from your aunt in New Jersey and that would be

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<v Speaker 4>the only significant input. Maybe maybe maybe you'd watch the

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<v Speaker 4>evening news and you'd flip through a newspaper, But the

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<v Speaker 4>vast majority of your experience was your personal experience. Now,

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<v Speaker 4>the vast majority of it is virtual, it's elect And

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<v Speaker 4>so how I think about different sorts of people and

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<v Speaker 4>where they are in the pecking order is affected in

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<v Speaker 4>an outsized way, in an unhealthy way, through the very

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<v Speaker 4>stupid pop culture we're talking about, in a way that

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<v Speaker 4>it wasn't in you know, the twentieth century, even.

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<v Speaker 1>All I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this the idea of a meritocracy? I am one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred percent for I want the smartest, best people to

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<v Speaker 3>be on a different track. And who cares if that

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<v Speaker 3>makes your kid feel bad or my kid feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>My kids aren't going to be that at least so far.

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<v Speaker 3>Take the best talent prize them from all countries and

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<v Speaker 3>in our country, anybody that wants to come here, that's

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<v Speaker 3>the best, smartest people, let them come.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine being against that. Yeah again, you get

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<v Speaker 4>back to the visa thing. It gets a little commentated. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, excellence. We've got to get back to saluting

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<v Speaker 4>and respecting excellence of this country or we will be doomed.

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<v Speaker 4>We will become, as we've been saying for a very

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<v Speaker 4>long time, Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't want to be Europe.

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<v Speaker 3>If anybody wants to weigh in on that with your experience,

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<v Speaker 3>our text line four one five nine five KFTC.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, guys, the country is still dealing with freezing temperatures

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<v Speaker 5>as millions of Americans are getting slammed by an.

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<v Speaker 1>Arctic blast alcohol.

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<v Speaker 5>It's so cold this morning, President Biden had chains put

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<v Speaker 5>on the tennis.

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<v Speaker 1>Balls of his walker's should. Chain them up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I left something out of the big dust

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<v Speaker 3>up that happened over the last two weeks that most

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<v Speaker 3>of you probably didn't even know about, over immigration and

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<v Speaker 3>top talent from around the world coming here. And some

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<v Speaker 3>of you, I don't know if it's you, but some

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<v Speaker 3>people on the right seem to be anti anybody from

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<v Speaker 3>other countries coming here. And I definitely not with you

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<v Speaker 3>on that. I want the best talent from all countries

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<v Speaker 3>to come to the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the way we dominate.

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<v Speaker 3>You gotta sign on to our beliefs though, Yes, and

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<v Speaker 3>you got to have a fair playing field for competing

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<v Speaker 3>for jobs. You can't have some sort of advantage over

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my kid who grows up wants to be

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<v Speaker 3>an engineer. But Elon a different attitude on the H

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<v Speaker 3>one B visa. This tweet is what turned a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people on Elon a week or so ago. The

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<v Speaker 3>reason I'm in America along with so many critical people

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<v Speaker 3>who built SpaceX, Tesla and hundreds of other companies that

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<v Speaker 3>made America strong is because of the H one B.

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<v Speaker 3>Take a big step end in all caps after yourself

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<v Speaker 3>in the face. I will go to war on this issue.

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<v Speaker 3>The likes of which you cannot possibly compremend comprehend. And

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<v Speaker 3>he spelled out the word so it was spelled out

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<v Speaker 3>yourself in the face and all caps.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's you know what, that's rude.

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<v Speaker 3>So a lot of people are a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>maga wites split on that, and it was all f

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<v Speaker 3>you in the face, elon over this, no more, blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's it's that's some harsh rut rick.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right, Yeah, online is just not where you go

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<v Speaker 4>for Well, that seems harsh and I don't understand his

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<v Speaker 4>point of view, but I have respect for him, so

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<v Speaker 4>I want to find out.

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<v Speaker 1>What he means. I mean, that's just that practically doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exist on Twitter. No, no, it does not.

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<v Speaker 4>And all anger hitting back to the thought of you know,

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<v Speaker 4>excellence and that sort of thing, and this, I guess

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<v Speaker 4>this has something to do with race, I suppose, but

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<v Speaker 4>not at its core. I came across these statistics medical

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<v Speaker 4>school acceptance race. These are your doctors who are going

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<v Speaker 4>to be trading you. Okay, trust me. When you get

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<v Speaker 4>a little gray in the the hair, it becomes a

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<v Speaker 4>bigger part of your life. But these are and I

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<v Speaker 4>won't tell you the actual MCAT scores. That's the grad

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<v Speaker 4>school score for getting into medicine. But in the below

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<v Speaker 4>average range, only six percent of Asian people and eight

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<v Speaker 4>percent of white people in that range get accepted six

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<v Speaker 4>percent and eight percent Black folks in that range, fifty

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<v Speaker 4>six percent get accepted. In the average category. If you're Asian,

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<v Speaker 4>twenty one percent you get in, twenty nine percent of

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<v Speaker 4>white people, eighty one percent of Black people get in,

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<v Speaker 4>and it actually continues in a lesser way in the

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<v Speaker 4>upper ranges. Of course, my problem with this always is

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<v Speaker 4>that this is a band aid on the terrible wound

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<v Speaker 4>of lack of black achievement in schools and the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>for it, and the idea that you attack it at

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<v Speaker 4>the level of medical school as opposed to in neighborhood schools,

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<v Speaker 4>kids sociological problems which exist. You want to blame it

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<v Speaker 4>on racism or slavery, fine, let's talk about the sociological problems.

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<v Speaker 4>The idea that you solve it at the end by

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<v Speaker 4>promoting people who are clearly not qualified is idiotic.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that's bad for society. And then just on the

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<v Speaker 3>level of we want the best people, we want the

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<v Speaker 3>best people. I don't care where they came from or

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<v Speaker 3>what color they are. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark Zuckerberg censorship fact checkers.

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<v Speaker 1>We will discuss next day, Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 5>Mark Zuckerberg announced that Meta will no longer fact check

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<v Speaker 5>posts on Facebook and Instagram, and users will now have

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<v Speaker 5>to correct any false posts themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little concerned.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is like Chipotle announcing that it's ending

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<v Speaker 5>health inspections.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>If you're keeping tracks, fact checking is gone from Facebook

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<v Speaker 5>and Twitter right now. Wikipedia's like, how did we become

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<v Speaker 5>the responsible one?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, Joe didn't. Don't like that joke? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't. Last part was all right, But yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Before we get back to the Facebook thing, one stat

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<v Speaker 3>we've left out of.

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<v Speaker 1>The fires.

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<v Speaker 3>In the LA area that are completely out of control,

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<v Speaker 3>and we personally know people who have had to flee

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<v Speaker 3>and their homes may have burned down already. All of

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<v Speaker 3>those fires are zero percent contained, zero percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and growing.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, whipped by the winds at least through today and

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<v Speaker 4>probably endo tomorrow. It could be cataclysmic. Let's certainly hope

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<v Speaker 4>it's not. At least the lives are spared, If not,

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<v Speaker 4>the structures. So, yeah, getting back to Mark Zuckerberg and Facebook.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe you heard the announcement yesterday. Probably we talked about

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<v Speaker 4>it a little bit. They are abandoning quote unquote professional

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<v Speaker 4>fact checking, which is a phrase so repugnant I can

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<v Speaker 4>barely get it to come out of the same mouth

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<v Speaker 4>I used to kiss my wife and going with community notes,

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<v Speaker 4>much like Twitter does. I refuse to say X, here's

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<v Speaker 4>Berzerkerberg yesterday clip ad Michael.

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<v Speaker 6>We're going to get back to our roots and focus

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<v Speaker 6>on reducing mistakes, simplifying our policies, and restoring re expression

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<v Speaker 6>on our platforms. More specifically, we're going to get rid

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<v Speaker 6>of fact checkers and replace them with community notes, similar

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<v Speaker 6>to X starting in the US.

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<v Speaker 3>So his new look is he wears a T shirt,

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<v Speaker 3>he's let his hair grow out, Yes, but he's wearing

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<v Speaker 3>a million dollar watch with his T shirt and his

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<v Speaker 3>long hair. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>It was funny back when he was getting grilled by

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<v Speaker 4>the Democratic Congress and ordered to around by the White House,

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<v Speaker 4>which we'll get to in a minute, he was going

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<v Speaker 4>with a very close cropped suity look. But now that

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<v Speaker 4>the pro business Republicans are in charge and the pro

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<v Speaker 4>free speech types is like, all right, I'm gonna let

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<v Speaker 4>my freak flag fly.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting anyway, I don't want to spend too much time

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<v Speaker 1>on that.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's his spokesman, Joel Kaplan, who's talking a little more

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<v Speaker 4>about the policies than we'll discuss eighty two.

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<v Speaker 1>Michael, there's a number of changes we're making.

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<v Speaker 7>But if I could and just highlight three, yep. First is,

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<v Speaker 7>as you heard, we're eliminating the third party fact checking system.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Michael said too much of what we've already covered. Apologies,

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<v Speaker 4>let's go with eighty four.

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<v Speaker 7>So the second one is about the rules the governed

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<v Speaker 7>content on our platform. They've just become too restrictive over

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<v Speaker 7>time about what people can say, including about those kind

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<v Speaker 7>of sensitive topics that you mentioned that people want to

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<v Speaker 7>discuss and debate immigration, trans issues, gender. We want to

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<v Speaker 7>make it so that bottom line, if you can say

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<v Speaker 7>it on TV, you can say it on the Flora Congress,

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<v Speaker 7>you certainly ought to be able to say it on Facebook,

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<v Speaker 7>Instagram without fear of censorship.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're changing those things.

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<v Speaker 4>I would freaking say so, well, yeah, that is an

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely undeniably reasonable thing to say. Jack, would you like

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<v Speaker 4>to briefly characterize some of the mockery that's taking place

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<v Speaker 4>on the right on social media of all places around

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<v Speaker 4>this move.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's the idea that now that there's a Republican Congress,

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<v Speaker 3>Republican government, the winds are blown that way, and Trump's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be president that all of a sudden, he's

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<v Speaker 3>a free speech warrior and wants the truth to come

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<v Speaker 3>out hilarious, and because they can do serious damage to

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<v Speaker 3>his business model, like could ruin him.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure, right, Katie, did you have a thought?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Babylon b headline, guy who said Facebook was not

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<v Speaker 4>suppressing free speech announces Facebook will stop suppressing free speech.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love that. Love that.

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<v Speaker 4>So here's here's the deal. And lord knows, snark makes

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<v Speaker 4>my world go round. I'm not anti snark. Everything Cynical

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<v Speaker 4>said about this is one hundred percent correct. But there's more.

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<v Speaker 4>There's more, and the more, I think is more important.

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<v Speaker 4>Because Mark Zuckerberg is a force for evil on the planet.

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<v Speaker 4>He is a monster. I have called him satan, I believe.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>Watch The Social Dilemma, the twenty twenty documentary.

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<v Speaker 1>I beg of you. I still haven't seen it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a crime that I haven't seen that. Damn you sir,

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<v Speaker 1>I am I allowed to say that? Or will I

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<v Speaker 1>be censored?

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<v Speaker 4>Michael, No, we allow free speech and talk radio anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>So watch that and understand how evil big tech is

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<v Speaker 4>and how and as Jack has said many times, there

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<v Speaker 4>could be no more effective indictment of them than these

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<v Speaker 4>tech giants won't let their kids use their own products.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing kidding me, sorry, folks, anyway, having said that, bind

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<v Speaker 4>yourself in the face, like Elon says, Oh no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>this has gone too far. You don't know when to stop.

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<v Speaker 4>We should have stopped anyway. So all of that snark

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<v Speaker 4>about Zuckerberg is one hundred percent true. But here's the

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<v Speaker 4>part that's missing. You've got to remember the enormous, unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 4>unholy pressure these guys were under from the forces of

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<v Speaker 4>the progressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Lat That's a good point.

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<v Speaker 4>The government was trying to do an end run around

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<v Speaker 4>the First Amendment by strong arming guys like Zuckerberg, who again,

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<v Speaker 4>I got no love for Zuckerberg whatsoever, but I do

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<v Speaker 4>have a love for free speech and free enterprise, and

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<v Speaker 4>they were getting absolutely mobster style. It'd be a shame

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<v Speaker 4>of something happened to your social network. If you don't,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know silence doctor Marty mckery. You don't silence

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Batticheria, who are saying, you know, I think young

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<v Speaker 4>strong people don't need the vaccine, you better silence them.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the really unholy part. You're right.

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<v Speaker 3>That would be the profile encourage that I'd like to

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<v Speaker 3>see out of Mark Zuckerberg. He come forward and say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>the reason we did what we did about not allowing

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<v Speaker 3>people to discuss Hey, kind of weird that the virus

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<v Speaker 3>came out of uh wuhan right next to the lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of weird. Huh.

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<v Speaker 3>The fact that we wouldn't allow that conversation is because

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<v Speaker 3>the Biden administration hinted strongly they were going to ruin

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<v Speaker 3>us if we allowed that kind of talk.

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<v Speaker 4>God, I wish he would say that out loud. That'd

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<v Speaker 4>be fantastic. And you know, I could give you a

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<v Speaker 4>long list. I'll touch on a couple of things. JOHNS

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<v Speaker 4>hopkinsurgon Marty mckery was talking about the pace at which

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<v Speaker 4>Americans would develop her community that was flagged taken down.

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<v Speaker 4>They targeted the Wall Street Journal's review of a book

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<v Speaker 4>by a guy who's a climate contrarian and like suppressed

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<v Speaker 4>that you couldn't even hear the review of that guy's

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<v Speaker 4>opinion because of the progressive censorship by proxy. And that's

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<v Speaker 4>the really really ugly part of it to me. So

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<v Speaker 4>and actually interestingly, Zuckerberg prior to that said some great

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<v Speaker 4>stuff about free speech. I mean, like he stole it

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<v Speaker 4>out of my mouth. And again, I'm not a fan

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<v Speaker 4>of the guy at or all. Don't think he's particularly smart.

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<v Speaker 4>That's been my take for a very very long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he's probably a great computer programmer and that

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<v Speaker 4>sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think he's that smart guy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think he.

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<v Speaker 3>Understands the big issues on a lot of this stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>or cares he cares.

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<v Speaker 1>I think this possible. I've always felt he kind of

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<v Speaker 1>got lucky. Oh hell, yes he did. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>If you build a this is how we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 3>laid app college and it turns into what Facebook is,

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<v Speaker 3>that's an accident.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I wouldn't I wouldn't go that far to

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<v Speaker 4>underestimate the guy. To assemble a great team and help

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<v Speaker 4>it function is a gift.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, maybe this is the wrong word. I know a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of very successful business people. They have no knowledge

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<v Speaker 3>about issues like free speech and that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Zero.

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<v Speaker 3>I know so many really successful business guys that have

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<v Speaker 3>never read a.

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<v Speaker 1>Book and are proud of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know a handful of millionaires who are proud of

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that they've never read a book. They've got

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<v Speaker 3>one of our talent that is about business, but they

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<v Speaker 3>just have no like And I don't know what word

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<v Speaker 3>you should use, smart, knowledgeable, wise, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>it is, but yeah, it's broad ranging knowledge.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that characteriziction, the characterization of him. I will sign

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<v Speaker 4>on to Here's the part I wanted to get to. Oh,

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<v Speaker 4>this is still the Is that still the editorial? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>which is excellent. In the Wall Street Journal, the editorial

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<v Speaker 4>board is saying all the right things, and they go

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<v Speaker 4>into detail how the so called fact checking became a

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<v Speaker 4>tool to censor it was just a way to get

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<v Speaker 4>your preferred political outcome. Is completely funny. But so it's

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<v Speaker 4>funny because often the editorial board and a paper is,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, there's a high wall between them and the reporters,

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<v Speaker 4>at least when papers function the way they're supposed to.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm looking at the Wall Street Journal's coverage of

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<v Speaker 4>the story and they go through the fact but then

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<v Speaker 4>who are these I would like to personally it's a

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<v Speaker 4>list of journalists who worked on this piece. But they

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<v Speaker 4>quote all sorts of different people in this story about

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<v Speaker 4>whether there's a good move or a bad move. And

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<v Speaker 4>then they quote Alex Mahedeven, who's director of Media Wize,

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<v Speaker 4>a digital media literacy project at the Points Are Institute.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, I'll reveal something in a moment, he says.

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<v Speaker 4>The generalists say, researchers say the program has shortcomings and

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<v Speaker 4>should not report professional fact checkers. Notes take time to appear,

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. And this guy says, since it's based

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<v Speaker 4>on finding consensus, it can't work at scale. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the guy who runs the outfit that runs PolitiFact, a

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<v Speaker 4>fact checking website quote unquote that is one of Meta's partners.

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<v Speaker 4>There could be no more divorce from fact partisan hack

0:27:22.240 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 4>outfit in the world than PolitiFact. The idea that the

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<v Speaker 4>Wall Street Journal is quoting of his experts quote unquote

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<v Speaker 4>is hilarious, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>Fact check the term professional fact checker is hilarious. How

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<v Speaker 3>do you say that with the straight face? M Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>who's paying you to do this? And what are their

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<v Speaker 3>wants and needs?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 4>Exactly you've got a child's perception of what fact is

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<v Speaker 4>and is not, particularly when you're talking about controversial issues.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the whole point is different people are sure they

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<v Speaker 4>know different things from the other people. Anyway, I found

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<v Speaker 4>this so interesting, and this is the perfect time to

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<v Speaker 4>drop this in because the Wall Street Journal, which is

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite big paper publication website these days, along with

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<v Speaker 4>the Free Press and a couple of others, but among

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<v Speaker 4>your traditional outlets, I should say Wall Street Journal is

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite. Quoting quote unquote experts. I'd come across this earlier.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's uh, and I'll just briefly summarize it. This

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<v Speaker 4>story and Twitter thread makes the point that so called

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<v Speaker 4>experts are drawn wildly disproportionately, not entirely, but mostly from academia.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>And they make the point that, for instance, in we're

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<v Speaker 4>talking about communications now right and on you know, well,

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<v Speaker 4>communications in short, one hundred percent of professors and communications

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<v Speaker 4>that were polled, and they polled thousands of professors were

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<v Speaker 4>Democrats one hundred percent in communications. Likewise, in anthropology, in

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<v Speaker 4>real life religion, it's just under ninety nine percent.

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<v Speaker 1>I could keep going.

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<v Speaker 4>Sociology is ninety eight percent not surprisingly music theatre classics

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<v Speaker 4>ninety six and a half percent Democrats.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we did this a couple of weeks ago. I

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<v Speaker 3>think you were out for an hour and I did

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<v Speaker 3>this topic. But it is everybody should know this, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's obvious once you hear it. But of course all

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<v Speaker 3>of the views you hear are left leaning when they

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<v Speaker 3>go to the expert. When you look at who's an expert,

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<v Speaker 3>and the fact that they're in some cases, as you

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<v Speaker 3>pointed out, one hundred percent one direction politically.

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<v Speaker 4>And as I'm sure you pointed out, you've got to

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<v Speaker 4>get down to engineering to get to a modest Sixty

0:29:39.920 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 4>two percent of the professors are Democrats. So if you

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<v Speaker 4>ever hear a quote unquote expert quoted, the chances are

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<v Speaker 4>overwhelming they're going to be a lefty man.

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<v Speaker 3>That'll change my perception of that for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>my life. It's obvious in that Dan wall Street Journal Arm. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I had never thought of it before. Speaking of experts,

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<v Speaker 3>how are you doing on your diet? We're eight days

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<v Speaker 3>into the new year. Uh, experts say the four signs

0:30:09.000 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>that you're not gonna make it. You're gonna fail on

0:30:11.680 --> 0:30:13.800
<v Speaker 3>your diet. Oh, I thought you meant not gonna make

0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:15.800
<v Speaker 3>it at all. No, you're gonna fail, and you've got

0:30:15.800 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 3>to get my affairs in order. Here are the key

0:30:17.960 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 3>the key things to watch out for us. We'll have

0:30:19.760 --> 0:30:25.479
<v Speaker 3>that coming up. I was just watching a video of

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:30.480
<v Speaker 3>them loading seniors onto buses at the Senior center that

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 3>burnt down in Pasadena. Uh, with the flames, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>coming down the hill really fast. Wow, that had to

0:30:36.920 --> 0:30:39.280
<v Speaker 3>be a pressure situation. Wouldn't be easy to do to

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<v Speaker 3>move people in that age group either. The most common

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<v Speaker 3>New Year's resolution is to either eat better, exercise more.

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<v Speaker 3>Combination of those two things generally lose weight, get tracked together,

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<v Speaker 3>that sort of thing. And I saw this thing in

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<v Speaker 3>the New York Post, red flag for you know, the

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 3>fact that you're going to fail, And I thought this

0:31:02.320 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 3>would probably be kind of jivy and stupid. It's actually

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<v Speaker 3>pretty good. It's the sort of stuff we've been saying

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time. It's like more common sense than

0:31:10.600 --> 0:31:13.280
<v Speaker 3>anything else. It says here eighty percent of people fail

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<v Speaker 3>in their New Year's resolutions. I don't know if that's

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<v Speaker 3>true or not. Probably close to right.

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<v Speaker 1>Sure.

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:23.960
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that says, if there is one

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.400
<v Speaker 3>pill or ingredient or something like that that you're using

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:31.720
<v Speaker 3>to change everything that's probably not gonna work. Doing sense,

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<v Speaker 3>take a look of whether or not you have time

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<v Speaker 3>to do what you're planning to do. Like how you

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<v Speaker 3>know you're going to start going to the gym or

0:31:41.240 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 3>running or whatever it is you're going to do.

0:31:43.440 --> 0:31:45.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you have free time? Now?

0:31:45.480 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 3>If you don't, then you got to pick something specific

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 3>that you're going to eliminate to allow time, which is obvious,

0:31:52.880 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 3>but maybe you don't think about that.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, I don't have time, which is why I'm

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 4>taking massive doses of turmeric. It's all about turmeric bills.

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<v Speaker 1>But it makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're already like busy every single day and now

0:32:06.200 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna start going to the gym, there isn't gonna

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:11.200
<v Speaker 3>be magically another hour added to the day.

0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna have to cut something out.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:16.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Yeah, which strewing around wasting time.

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:19.479
<v Speaker 1>Watching TV pretty damned obvious. Get down to business.

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<v Speaker 3>Also said, uh, and we've talked about this for years.

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<v Speaker 3>You got to kind of ease into modest expectations as

0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:32.080
<v Speaker 3>opposed to you know, I'm gonna lose fifty pounds by

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<v Speaker 3>by January twentieth, I'm gonna start working out an hour

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<v Speaker 3>and a half every single day. Oh my god, nobody's

0:32:37.120 --> 0:32:38.760
<v Speaker 3>gonna change your life that drastically.

0:32:38.840 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Nobody. He's into it gradually.

0:32:40.960 --> 0:32:42.640
<v Speaker 3>I thought that was a good idea, but that that

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.560
<v Speaker 3>time of thing really struck me as.

0:32:44.520 --> 0:32:48.320
<v Speaker 1>So incredibly obvious. But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>At least, it's something I've never thought about many times.

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<v Speaker 3>If I'm gonna start anything like my playing the piano, Okay,

0:32:55.200 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 3>how much do you want to practice? You're already busy.

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<v Speaker 3>What's gonna give to allow this to happen?

0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:02.360
<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Whether it's watching less TV, sleeping less, I don't know, eliminated, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:33:07.760 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>But it's got to come from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Right and at some point you although actually I was

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<v Speaker 4>going to say, you have to rest your brain in

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:16.800
<v Speaker 4>your body, although I think most of us get plenty

0:33:16.800 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 4>of rest for our bodies, and if you're working out,

0:33:19.240 --> 0:33:19.520
<v Speaker 4>that is.

0:33:19.520 --> 0:33:20.640
<v Speaker 1>A good rest for your brain.

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:24.080
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I don't know this speaking and working out.

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<v Speaker 3>I had the classic trying to quit a gym thing

0:33:27.560 --> 0:33:29.720
<v Speaker 3>happen over the last couple of weeks. We had a

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<v Speaker 3>gym that we started like, well, it was the last July.

0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.600
<v Speaker 3>I happened to know exactly because they claim I signed

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<v Speaker 3>up for a year, even though I know I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>And the hardest thing to do in the world, everybody knows,

0:33:40.240 --> 0:33:41.800
<v Speaker 3>is quit a gym. They've come up with all kinds

0:33:41.800 --> 0:33:43.560
<v Speaker 3>of different ways to make sure you can't quit and

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:46.800
<v Speaker 3>they can keep you around. And I went to quit

0:33:46.840 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 3>this gym. I went into the first of all, they

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:49.640
<v Speaker 3>said you have to come in to do it.

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's funny.

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 3>I could sign up on the phone, but to quit,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to come in. So I drive to where

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:55.959
<v Speaker 3>it is, fill out the papers, all that sort of stuff.

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Then credit card thing shows up in my email. I

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<v Speaker 3>got billed again for another month. I called them up

0:34:01.880 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 3>and they said, well, we have you here that you

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 3>signed up for a year. No I didn't. I would

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:07.080
<v Speaker 3>have never signed up for a year. There's no way

0:34:07.120 --> 0:34:08.399
<v Speaker 3>I knew I wasn't gonna be there for a year.

0:34:08.760 --> 0:34:10.040
<v Speaker 3>There's no way I signed up for a year. Well,

0:34:10.040 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 3>we have you down is signing up for a year? Well,

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:14.399
<v Speaker 3>whoever was there when I came in, Let me quit.

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 3>They said I could quit, and I signed a piece

0:34:16.120 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 3>of paper. Oh, we don't have any record of that.

0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:19.719
<v Speaker 3>Here's the number you call for the main office, and

0:34:19.760 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>it's a big national compan Same thing happened to me

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<v Speaker 3>yesterday with a coffee company.

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<v Speaker 1>And I won't mention the name because I don't want

0:34:27.080 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 1>to be sued.

0:34:27.560 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 3>But they I was on there automatic send me the

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.640
<v Speaker 3>pods thing, and I decided I didn't want those anymore

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:35.560
<v Speaker 3>and I quit it. And then I got sent more

0:34:35.600 --> 0:34:38.480
<v Speaker 3>pods and I contacted them and they said, well, it.

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Takes forty five days for that to go through. It's interesting.

0:34:41.120 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 3>I can sign up immediately to spend money and get pods,

0:34:44.640 --> 0:34:46.560
<v Speaker 3>but if I want to star send them out the

0:34:46.640 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 3>next day. The fine print is it takes forty five

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:53.600
<v Speaker 3>days to process your ending your commitment.

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:54.719
<v Speaker 1>How do you like that?

0:34:55.760 --> 0:34:58.600
<v Speaker 4>How sad is clearly what it is. Yeah, I mean

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 4>everybody knows what's going on there.

0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we'll let you. I tell you what. We'll let

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>you quit without argument. You take one more shipment, that's

0:35:05.920 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 1>what they're saying.

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:08.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, we can get We know we can get

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<v Speaker 3>one more shipment out of everybody this way, and so

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<v Speaker 3>we do.

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<v Speaker 4>Now the health club is saying, you're gonna burn a

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<v Speaker 4>thousand calories to get out of this deal.

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing you a favor.

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