1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,600 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody? 3 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to move the Sticks DJ, Bucky with you? Buck? 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: What is going on man? How's your weekend? 5 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: Man? It's been a good weekend DJ. We're here. 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 3: Training camps are open up all over the league. We're 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 3: seeing highlights and clips and getting excited. You can almost 8 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 3: smell the grass as everything kicks off of the NFL. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. I just did a quick, short, little trip to Alaska, 10 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: so it got cooled off a little bit, which is 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: like my annual little trip to then remind me that 12 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: we are here. It's football season. We've got training camps 13 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: kicked off. We have ITC Live, which will kick off 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 1: with Back to Football Saturday. Corrected it Saturday, right, Buck? 15 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: So you are going to be at RAMS, I believe. 16 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 3: No this Saturday. I'm be down in Jacksonville. 17 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right. 18 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 3: So I'm in Jacksonville on Saturday, Miami on Sunday before 19 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 3: making my way back into on the West Coast swing. 20 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: Oh it's beautiful. I'll be out there. They'll have me. 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I think I'm with I want to say I'm with 22 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: Ian with rap sheet out there at Chargers for that 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: first day. And then you know, with having five teams 24 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: out here southern California for training camp, I don't have 25 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: to get on airplane. Man, it's the first time since 26 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: I've worked in NFL network. Well, I do not have 27 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: to get on airplane to go to a to a 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: training camp. We've got We've got the Saints here, the 29 00:01:20,720 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: Raiders here as well as the Cowboys, Chargers, and Rams. 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 1: So there's enough to keep us busy here just locally 31 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: for once. 32 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what I'm gonna say that we should 33 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 3: issue a rule that they should make that mandatory each 34 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,400 Speaker 3: year to have at least five teams here so it 35 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 3: minimizes to travel, makes everything very easy and convenient for 36 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 3: those who like to cover. 37 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. 38 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: I like the idea of just kind of the baseball 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: model of we can have like an Arizona League in 40 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: a Florida league if you want to have a Southern 41 00:01:46,160 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: California league. And then I don't know, if Florida's pretty 42 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: hot in the summer, maybe it's maybe it's somewhere up 43 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: in the northeast, or maybe it's a compromise the Midwest. 44 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 1: It's got some pretty spots. So then we just kind 45 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 1: of centralize it. Then you can go you know, you're 46 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: a football and you can pop around and see all 47 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: these different teams. Be a little more efficient with your time. 48 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: That's my proposal book. 49 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. 50 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: It's almost like the old days of the Cheese League 51 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 3: when everyone would go to Wisconsin and it area to 52 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,119 Speaker 3: play five teams and we kind of do their deal. 53 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: So a ton of fun. Yeah, no doubt. We are 54 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: going to get back into our Championship Foundation discussion. If 55 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: you missed the NFC episodes, we knock those out last week, 56 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: a couple different episodes. We split it in half with 57 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: the conference and we go through and we look at 58 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,839 Speaker 1: the core foundation pieces for all of these teams, which 59 00:02:32,880 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 1: is it's a healthy exercise. Because we see how research 60 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: has stacked it, we make some adjustments to that list 61 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: then when the episode comes out, we actually had some 62 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: listeners that are dialed in and you know, there might 63 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: be an omission here or there. So we had a 64 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: couple of instances where we got some good feedback there 65 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, that's absolutely correct. 66 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: Let's make a little a little switch on that. So 67 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 1: it's been pretty fun, just kind of it's like group 68 00:02:57,720 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: work here, a group project as we kind of put 69 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: together these championship foundations. 70 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 3: You know what's funny about this DJ when we talk 71 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 3: about blue chip players and those things like there's so 72 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 3: many people that really take issue with when we talk 73 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 3: about these are the best rosters based on the number 74 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 3: of blue Chippers that they have, etc. 75 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: Etc. 76 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 3: And you have to just understand they are different ways 77 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 3: to build a team. But the one thing we know, 78 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: the teams that typically win and go far in the 79 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 3: playoffs are the teams that have more of the good 80 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: players and they put them in the right thing. And 81 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 3: so when we talk about blue players, you talk about 82 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 3: the best of the best and how you seek with them. 83 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 3: And as we talk about the future, you want guys 84 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 3: that are sending into. 85 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 2: That blue category. 86 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: Yes, you can have some guys that kind of fall 87 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 3: out of that category, but if you're building a team 88 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: where everyone is growing and moving towards that blue you 89 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: have a chance to keep your championship window open a 90 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: little longer. 91 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: Than some of the other teams, no doubt. 92 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 1: I you know, I think that's what's cool looking at it, 93 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: and the colors really make that pop. You can see 94 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: a team that maybe is right on the cusp. They've 95 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: got a lot of green players, and you think, okay, man, 96 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: some of these green players can make that leap, get 97 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: into that blue category. Now this team can go to 98 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 1: the next level here. So you know, I found that, 99 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: you know, pretty interesting when you when you put this 100 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: whole thing together. All right, Buck, you're ready to jump 101 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: in here with the AFC East. All right, here we 102 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 1: go AFC East. We are going to start with the 103 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen obviously a blue. Josh is twenty 104 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: eight years old. Now, so you've got the blue quarterback. 105 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: Then you've got two greens that I think have blue potential. 106 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: When you're looking at these playmakers, let's start with you 107 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: have to have three of those guys in that list, 108 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: so greens, and we should do the definitions having a deal. 109 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: Put the definitions in the chat again here so we 110 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: can explain that properly. But you've got two greens here 111 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: with James Cook, Dalkin Kaid, you get a purple, which 112 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: is basically for a rookie and has you unproven player 113 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: with Keon Coleman. Offensive line wise, you've got you know, 114 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: we take the three top offensive linemen that are building 115 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,520 Speaker 1: block pieces. Dion Dawkins is a green. Spencer Brown is 116 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 1: a Green, is a really good player. Osiris Torrence is 117 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: a pink. Still again that's a young player. Then you've 118 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: got Ed Oliver and Greg Rousseau as your two pass 119 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: rushers as greens. And then you look at the playmakers, 120 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: which we take from the linebacker in the secondary position. 121 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: You get Yellows with Matt Mulano coming off injury would 122 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: be a yellow. You get Terren Johnson as one of 123 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: the best nickels in the league as at green. And 124 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: then you get the two young guys there. You could 125 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: pick between Terreell Bernard and Christian benfor two good young 126 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,359 Speaker 1: players but still kind of on the rise, on the 127 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: come up there. 128 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. 129 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 3: So what's interesting about the Buffalo Bills is there's been 130 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: a team that has been at the top of the 131 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 3: charts for a while. They've been dominating division the last 132 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 3: few years. But then you look they're kind of a 133 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 3: team that you have just a big question mark behind 134 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 3: you lose Stefan Diggs and you just want to offensively. 135 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 2: Will they be able to do it? 136 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 3: But you see a lot of green players and so 137 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 3: if things break right, this Buffalo Bills team can be 138 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 3: exactly where they've been in the last couple of years, 139 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 3: Division round or better and a team that's buying for 140 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: a championship. If they don't break right, then they can 141 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 3: fall back to the pack. But they have a lot 142 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 3: of intriguing pieces. You talk about James Cook and Dalton 143 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 3: kin Kaid, you think about what they have on defense 144 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 3: at Olive gregor Russau, Guys that are emerging players. We 145 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: certainly have the ability to be disruptive. It's just a 146 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: matter of how well they play. So this is on 147 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 3: Sean McDermott and the staff. If he gets this team 148 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 3: up and rolling, we'll continue to talk about the Buffalo 149 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 3: Bills like we've had the last few years. 150 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 1: Yep Man to reiterate again, blue is blue chip players. 151 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,359 Speaker 1: You're talking about top five, top ten player at his 152 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: position in the league, that type of talent. Green is 153 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: a functional, solid starter, So not someone you're looking to replace, 154 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: just a very dependable, solid player. Yellow is signifying there's 155 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: some issue with either age, injury, or there's a contract concern. 156 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: So it could be somebody maybe in the last year 157 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: of his deal, could be somebody that's on the wrong 158 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: side of thirty, but you're not going to give them 159 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: a blue or a green because we're talking about foundation pieces, 160 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: right so you're building from this point. It's not where 161 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: you are right now. We're kind of projecting out into 162 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: the future of what this foundation is going to look like. 163 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: Purple is for an unproven young player, and then sorry, 164 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: pink is for an unproven young player. Purple is a 165 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: lot of the rookies are in this categor unproven young 166 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: player but has blue chip potential. So really pink and 167 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: purple almost the same thing there when you're looking at 168 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: those two colors, but hopefully that players that up for 169 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: you as we go through it. All, Right, let's get 170 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: to the Miami Dolphins here. Buck Tua is a green 171 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:16,239 Speaker 1: at twenty six years old. Tyreek Hill obviously a blue, 172 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: he is thirty. Jalen Wattle is a green with he 173 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: might be a little blue attentive blue there, but he's green. 174 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: Then you get your running backs. It's really a great combination. 175 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: We're only gonna use one of them here, but you've 176 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: got a chan, you've got most of you know, they're 177 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: greens on here again, both of them really really good players. 178 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: Austin Jackson's a green, just got paid on the offensive line. 179 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Armstead I think more so for Age at thirty three 180 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: is a yellow. You get Aaron Brewer as a green 181 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: along the offensive line. Then for the pass rushers, you've 182 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: got Jalen Phillips and Bradley Chubb both coming off injuries, 183 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: so those guys are both yellows. We have Chop Robinson 184 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: as a purple, so you got to pick two of 185 00:07:57,400 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: those three there. Obviously the rookie, Chop Robinson is gon 186 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: be relied on. And then you get to the strength 187 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: here buck, you get to the secondary. Javon Hollind's a 188 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: blue at twenty four years old. Jalen Ramsey's still playing 189 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: well at twenty nine, He's a blue. And then you 190 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: get your choice between David Long Junior or Kendall Fuller. 191 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: Either one of those guys would be a yellow. So 192 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 1: you got three true blues here with the Dolphins. 193 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, three true blues. 194 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 3: And you can make the argument, you know, because you 195 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 3: talked about Jalen Wall being on the cuff, you can 196 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 3: talk about a chan and most of being in that 197 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: category because you just don't know how the running back 198 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 3: position is gonna break, and even Tua because a lot 199 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: of times Tua is a conditional blue based on the 200 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 3: people around them. But when you think about the last 201 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 3: two years where he is ranked when it comes to 202 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 3: passing efficiency numbers, all that he deserves to be in 203 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 3: that conversation. So this is a really good team, but 204 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: what you see is very top heavy in terms of 205 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 3: like all of the talent is more skewed towards the offense, 206 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 3: and then you're hoping that the defense can come up 207 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: to snoff You talk about Jalen Ramsey, Jamon Holland, but 208 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 3: really this team will go as their pass rush go. 209 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: And with the injury concerns around Jalen Phillis and Bradley Chubb, 210 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 3: you just don't know how good this Dolphins team is 211 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 3: going to be. 212 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. No, And I think that the interesting thing about 213 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,320 Speaker 1: going back to Tua is you have a green, like 214 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: a borderline green blue player, right, so we have him 215 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: as a green. Some could argue for production wise him 216 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: being in the blue category, but that's where the dilemma comes. 217 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: You know, why isn't that contract done well? Because it's 218 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: easier to do deals when you're defined as a true 219 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: blue player, you know what I mean? And I think 220 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: at least with Tua some pros, some cons, Some see 221 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: it is blue, some don't. That's where you see maybe 222 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a little bit potential for a messy negotiation there, Buck, Yeah. 223 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 3: Very messy because you're trying to figure out, like how 224 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 3: much is on him and his own talent and all 225 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: quarterbacks are supporting, they all kind of depend on the 226 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 3: cast around them, but how much when you just try 227 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: and pull a two out of that equation, how much 228 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: is him and how much is a detract team around him? 229 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 3: That makes it very very hard when you're trying to 230 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 3: affix a value you on him God, like can we 231 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 3: exist without him? 232 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: Can we exist with him? Like? 233 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 3: How much credit does he deserve for the way the 234 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: offense operates? Is really difficult. And we know how quarterbacks 235 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: are evaluated, like we give them a ton of the 236 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: credit but also a ton of blame when things don't 237 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 3: go there. 238 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: So if we're talking about championship foundations, and we will 239 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: get to the uh, we're gonna get to the AFC 240 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: North here in just a moment as well. But if 241 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: we're just looking at it from this division, the AFC East, 242 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: this next team, you know, again, this is a foundation piece. 243 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: It's not the entirety of your roster, but the foundation pieces, 244 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: especially when you have talent that's young, this is the 245 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: this is the one that stacks up as the best 246 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: in that division. Buck Uh, it's the New York Jets. 247 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 1: And that's what it's true. I mean, it's interesting when 248 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,959 Speaker 1: you look at these things, and it's we're looking at 249 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: a spreadsheet just to give you a visual here, so 250 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 1: we can see the entire AFC. We see all the 251 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 1: colors in a spreadsheet by division. This one draws your 252 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: eyes because you've got Aaron Rodgers as a Yellow, obviously 253 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: coming off of injuries, forty years old. So we're talking 254 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: about foundation pieces. I don't know how much more there 255 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: is there. But then let's get to these next ones here. 256 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is a twenty four year old Blue receiver. 257 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: And again we pick three offensive weapons, so you get 258 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson is a twenty four year old Blue. Bryce 259 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: Hall is a twenty three year old Blue. Then you 260 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 1: have Mike Williams who's a Yellow coming off injury at 261 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: twenty nine. So then we get to the offensive lineman. 262 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: Elijah Vera. Tucker is a Green. To me, I would 263 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 1: then if you're talking about championship foundations. I would not 264 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: count Tyron Smith or Morgan Moses as part of your 265 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: championship foundation for the future. But you do have two 266 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: high pick players of second year player and Joe Tipman, 267 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 1: who I think has blue potential. He's a purpowl right now. Olufashano, 268 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 1: the rookie first round of this year, is only twenty 269 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: one years old. He's got a chance to grow and 270 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: develop into a really good player. So just just look 271 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: at offensively here, Garrett Wilson twenty four, Breese Hall twenty three, 272 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: Elijah barrk Tucker twenty five, Joe Tipman twenty three, Olufashanu 273 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: twenty one. That's just the offense. Buck. That is a 274 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:14,920 Speaker 1: lot of young talent. 275 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of young talent. 276 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: And you know the thing about the Jets, they have 277 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,839 Speaker 3: gotten a lot of attention and they've kind of become 278 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: like a lightning rod of criticism just based on how 279 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: much was really dependent upon Aaron Rodgers to get this 280 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 3: team over the hump. If you remove Aaron Rodgers and 281 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 3: you just look at the foundation of the team, the 282 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: team is good enough to compete at a high level. 283 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: Now it's about can they get Aaron Rodgers, and I 284 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: will say Aaron Rodgs doesn't even have to play an 285 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: MVP level. They don't even need four time MVP Aaron Rodgers. 286 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 3: They just need solid quarterback play where they eliminate the 287 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 3: mistakes and they just allow the rest of the pieces 288 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: of the puzzle to get the job done. This is 289 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 3: a really good team. Now they're depending on some older 290 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 3: players in some key spots, like Mike Williams is nearing 291 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 3: thirty Timers Smith most we talked to the offensive line. Yeah, 292 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: those guys are older. But the core that they have 293 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: is certainly the championship captment. And a lot of people 294 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: think that we're just blowing smoke when we talk about 295 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: the Jets so much, but they have a very talented roster. 296 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: They just have to play up to the level of potential. 297 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: And I would phrase it this way, and we'll get 298 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 1: to their defense in a second, which there's more blues there. 299 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: The Jets' success is really dependent on two things, right, 300 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: It's the blues and the bridges. So they've got the blues, 301 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: the young, the talented, young blue chip players, but then 302 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: they've got some bridge players. We always just talk about 303 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: bridge quarterbacks. You can be a bridge at another position, 304 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: like they've got bridge tackles, They've got two thirty three 305 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: year old tackles. They need those guys to be a 306 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: bridge by some time. Ola Fashano is going to man 307 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,520 Speaker 1: one of those spots here in the very near future. 308 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: But they need the bridges to hold. We can't have 309 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,560 Speaker 1: the bridge collapse, buck, We got to have the bridges. 310 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: The solid and then the bridges and the Blues together 311 00:13:58,440 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: is what's going to help the Jets win games. 312 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's it, And I love the way you 313 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: phrased it because it is the Blues and the bridges, 314 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 3: and most teams should have bridges in place to help 315 00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 3: their young guys kind of acclimate to the league and 316 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 3: acclimate to those prominent roles. The Jets have that, but 317 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 3: the most critical piece to their puzzle is the quarterback. 318 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: And you would like to think that Aaron Rodgers can 319 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: come back and he's going to be all the wonderful 320 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 3: things that Aaron Rodgers has been as a player. But 321 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 3: if he doesn't play at that level, my challenge would 322 00:14:29,200 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 3: be the Robert Salad and these other guys to make 323 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: sure what's our contingency plan if Aaron Rodgers is not 324 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 3: what we think that he can be, how are we. 325 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: Going to win games? And to me, that's what coaching does. 326 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 3: The front office is supposed to stockpile the talent and 327 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 3: put all that, but now it's on Robert Sala and 328 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: his staff to start working on the contingencies. Here's playing 329 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 3: a Aaron Rodgers plays great, here's plan B. He's not 330 00:14:51,640 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 3: quite what we thought he was, but we can find 331 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 3: a way to win. And how is that complimentary football 332 00:14:56,760 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 3: or any of those other things, because the excuses are off. 333 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: They have to find a way to win with the 334 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 3: ross as presently constructed, and they have to be able 335 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: to do it. Whether Aaron Rodgers are playing at an A 336 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 3: level or he's playing at a Sea level, they still 337 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: got to win games. 338 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting. I mean they we talked about blues 339 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: and bridges. They need the quarterback could be could be both, right, 340 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: he could be playing at it hopefully playing at a 341 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: blue level, but still is not the long term answer there. 342 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: But I mean that's let's let's get to the defense 343 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: first year, because we haven't even got out of the ball. 344 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: Because there's more talent there. We get to the defensive side. 345 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: Quinn Williams is he blue, he is still only twenty 346 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: six years old. Then you've got the combination. Again, we 347 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: only can do two pass rushers, so Quinn's gonna get 348 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: one of those spots. You've got Johnson. You've got Jermaine 349 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: Johnson at twenty five years old coming off a really 350 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: good breakout year last year, and Hassan Reddick, who they 351 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: just got from the Eagles, who's been one of the 352 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:50,800 Speaker 1: more consistent pass rushes in the league. We have both 353 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: those guys as greens. You could make an argument Son Reddick, 354 00:15:54,320 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: especially with what he's done in the league, you could 355 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: label him a blue. But where we have both those guys, 356 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 1: you got to pick one of them. But that's a 357 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 1: green there. Sauce Gardner, twenty four year old blue is 358 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 1: one of the you know, arguably the top corner, one 359 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: of the top two or three corners. However you want 360 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: to stack it out at twenty four years old, Quincy 361 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: Williams coming off truthfully a blue year. But where you 362 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: have him as a green here at the linebacker position. 363 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: And then you have DJ Reid at twenty seven years old. 364 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: You know you've I think he's a yellow because of contract. 365 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: I think he's going to the last year of his deal. 366 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: But that's not even mentioning CJ. Moseley, who's still a really, 367 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: really good player but on the wrong side of thirty 368 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,840 Speaker 1: so between look, I mean, let's summarize it here. Garrett 369 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: Wilson twenty four, Bresee Hall twenty three, Quinnin Williams twenty six, 370 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner twenty four. Those are irrefutable blues. There's conversations 371 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: to be had about some of the other guys, but 372 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 1: that is a great core of young, talented players. 373 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, great core. 374 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 3: And if you can keep all those things together, not 375 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 3: only this year but going forward, this team should be 376 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: in the conversation for a long time. And I think 377 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 3: a lot of people are kind of the I said 378 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 3: that this is a boom or bust year for them, 379 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 3: that if they don't go to the Super Bowl, they 380 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 3: have to blow everything up, and that's not necessarily the case. 381 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 2: This is a team that has. 382 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: Exactly what you're looking for in terms of the capability 383 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 3: to win now but also the ability to win forever. 384 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: And so it's just a matter of putting it together 385 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 3: and making sure that the quarterback plays right, but getting 386 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 3: these other guys those bridges to make sure that they 387 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: played well enough that you don't have to put the 388 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 3: other guys in those prominent roles before they're ready. 389 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, and we'll get to the patriot ton in a second, 390 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: just to kind of wrap up. And we went a 391 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: little longer on them, but I thought they were an 392 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: interesting team. A good way to look at this, and 393 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: we've talked about this test before. If you want to 394 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: know kind of like what the state of your team 395 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: is or the talent level of your team, go to 396 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: a game and see how many different jerseys you see 397 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 1: in the stands, everybody wearing the same jersey. And now 398 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 1: keep in mind, when I was in Cleveland, people were 399 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: wearing jerseys of players who no longer played for the team. 400 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,680 Speaker 1: You'd see people in Jim Brown jerseys more than you 401 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 1: would see anybody that was currently on the roster. So 402 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 1: it's I think that's an interesting litmus test. And if 403 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: you if you're a young if you're a young family, 404 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: you're bringing your kids to a Jets game, got a 405 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: lot of options of what jerseys you want to put 406 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 1: your kids in. 407 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: Book, Yeah, a lot of options. 408 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: And look, d Lynch Finn is a quarterback and they 409 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 3: have to eventually think about who's going to be the 410 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 3: next one, But right now all the top priority is 411 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 3: to make sure that they can get the quarterback to 412 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 3: the regular season healthy and playing well, because if he's 413 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 3: playing well, this seems. 414 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: Going to be very, very difficult to be all right, 415 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Let's get to the Patriots coming off a four and 416 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: thirteen year Drake May is a purple. Obviously, he's a 417 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: young player with a lot of talent, but hasn't done 418 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: anything yet. Getting a chance to get out there, I 419 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: think he'll start. We'll see how long before he takes 420 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,360 Speaker 1: over that job at twenty two years old. Ramandre Stevenson 421 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: is a green at twenty six. Hunter Henry's a green 422 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: at twenty nine. And then you've got the young guys 423 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: here with the Mario Douglas showed some flashes last year, 424 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: twenty three years old, can really run, and get Jalen Polk, 425 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: who I've heard great things about early on there the rookie. 426 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: Both those guys labeled as pinks. Right now, you got 427 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: to pick one of those two. You've got the offensive lineman. 428 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: You've got to pick three. Here, You've got awaynu As 429 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: a twenty six year old green. David Andrews is a 430 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: thirty two year old yellow. And then you've got Cole 431 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: Strange as a pink, so a young young player that's 432 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: still you know, on the come up here, a high 433 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 1: pick and hopeful there for the future. Christian Barmore, I'm 434 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna label him as a Blue. He's a green on here, 435 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: but I think he's a blue player. You've got your 436 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: choice between Judan or Uce as yellows, and then you 437 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: get to the three playmakers at the linebacker position. In 438 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: the secondary position, Kyle Dougar is a Green, really solid player. 439 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: Christian Gonzalez is a purple, which and I agree if 440 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: purple signifying blue potential, he's going to be a Blue 441 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: if he stays healthy in my opinion. And then you've 442 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 1: got your choice between Juwan Bentley and Jabrill Peppers a 443 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: couple yellows. There so really only one true blue, you know, 444 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 1: coming on the heels of what we just talked about 445 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: with Jets. Not as much high end talent there in 446 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 1: New England right now. 447 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, not as much high in talent, but I would 448 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 3: say the cove isn't completely bare. I would say that 449 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: for the Jets, tactics and strategy are everything when it 450 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 3: comes to them winning games this season, particularly if you're 451 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 3: playing with a young quarterback. It's gonna be the way 452 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 3: that Girod Mayo sets up the game for his team 453 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: to win. Maning, how do the three phases work together 454 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,040 Speaker 3: to complement one another. How does the offense work with 455 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,080 Speaker 3: the defense and the special teams to put this team 456 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 3: in a position to win in the fourth quarter. When 457 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 3: I look at the players you talk about Christian Gonzalez 458 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,359 Speaker 3: Man he was off to a great start. He is 459 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 3: one of the special players that they have. And then 460 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 3: the other players, I would say, I'm not a Christian 461 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: Barmore being a solid player at the point of attack. 462 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:40,240 Speaker 2: Those things are good. 463 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 3: Because we talked about our foundational pieces offensively, it's gonna 464 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 3: come down. 465 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 2: To how quickly can they get Drake May up to speed? 466 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 3: Yet, Jacob said a start and do all those other things, 467 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 3: But how quickly can they get Drake May ready to 468 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 3: play and ready to play at winning football because the 469 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 3: pieces around him are solid, not great solid, but he 470 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: is going to have to play at a higher level 471 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: to win with what he currently has around him. 472 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: Here's my question, and this is the challenge for the 473 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: New England Patriots. You're putting together. Buck, you're back. Let's 474 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 1: go back to the scouting days. You're on the pro 475 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: scouting side, putting the advanced report together. You're getting ready 476 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: to play the New England Patriots. You got to present 477 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: the roster in front of the in front of the 478 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, and you go, coach, we have to stop X. 479 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: It all begins with X, and X is who's going 480 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: to keep you up at night. They don't have one the. 481 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 3: Best the best offensive player they have is Remandre Stevenson, 482 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 3: and he's a really good player, but he's not i 483 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,680 Speaker 3: would say an upper echelon blue player. 484 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: A guy that you really does change your game plan. 485 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean not at all. 486 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 2: Like you just you're aware, you're. 487 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 3: Aware of him, you make note of where he is 488 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: and that stuff. But they don't have like that game changer. 489 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 3: And I mean, you can win games with a bunch 490 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 3: of solid players, but man, the margin era is tiny 491 00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 3: because you don't have the one guy that can either 492 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 3: erase a mistake or create the explosive that tilts the 493 00:21:57,840 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 3: game in your favor. 494 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,080 Speaker 2: That's the problem that you have with the Pages. 495 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,760 Speaker 3: You just don't have that star player that can really 496 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: take over the game. 497 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure difference makers. That's gonna be the challenge, 498 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: and maybe one of these guys emerges as that guy. 499 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: If not, it's something that's got to be on the 500 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: to do list as we get to the following offseason. 501 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: All Right, the Top one hundred is back. Find out 502 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: who the players voted as the best player in the 503 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: NFL had NFL Plus starting July twenty second for exclusive 504 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 1: daily drops to find out who took home the trophy. 505 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: Go to plus dot NFL dot com to sign up today. 506 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 1: As we're recording this, it is July twenty second, so 507 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: you can go check out that content right away. All Right, 508 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna take quick break when we get back. We 509 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 1: have finished up the AFC East, we're gonna transition over 510 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 1: to the AFC North, where one team has more blues 511 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,400 Speaker 1: than any other team in the entire conference. So we'll 512 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: get to that team right after this. All right, Buck, 513 00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: Next up, This is not a don't have to see 514 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: if something went wrong on your computer here, And for 515 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,399 Speaker 1: those that know, obviously I work for the Baltimore Ravens, 516 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 1: but this was not This was not my doing here 517 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: of how these colors came out. But I'm not going 518 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: to quibble with him as we go through it here. 519 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 1: This is the team that has the most Blues. As 520 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,480 Speaker 1: we're staring at it right now at Kansas City, I 521 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: think he's right there with him. But let's go through Baltimore. 522 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson twenty seven year old blue. Dereck Henry is 523 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: a thirty year old Blue, Mark Andrews is a twenty 524 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 1: eight year old blue. Zay Flowers is a Green at 525 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: twenty three years old. Tyler Linderbaum is a twenty four 526 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 1: year old Blue. Ronnie Stanley is a thirty year old 527 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 1: yellow tackle. And then they've got another offensive lineman. You've 528 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 1: got Roger Rosengarden is a pink as a rookie coming 529 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: in there. Then you get to the defensive side. Matt 530 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: at Bka only twenty six years old, he's a blue, 531 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: is one of your pass rushers. You got a dafe 532 00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: O Way is a pink, he's only twenty five. Then 533 00:23:56,800 --> 00:23:59,400 Speaker 1: you get to the back three. You got Kyle Hamilton's 534 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 1: at twenty three year old blue, ro kwand Smith's still 535 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 1: only twenty seven or twenty seven year old blue. And 536 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: then you've got your choice between either Humphrey or Williams. 537 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: The corner and the safety there respectively as greens. So 538 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: you've got three, four, five, six, seven pre blues. And 539 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that any of those are stretches either. 540 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 3: No, no stretches. And it's one of the reasons why 541 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 3: we always expect this team to be in the Final 542 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 3: four and whether they get to it or not, sometimes 543 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: the game to execution doesn't go the way that you 544 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 3: wanted to. But this team is assembled. 545 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: The right way. 546 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 3: All the pieces of the puzzle fit and the pieces 547 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: match the tactics in the scheme that they employ. 548 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 2: This is a really good team. 549 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 3: This is a team that is going to be a 550 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:45,120 Speaker 3: very difficult challenge for teams to deal with their physicality, 551 00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,120 Speaker 3: toughness and their overall talent. Now you have some changes 552 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,479 Speaker 3: coaching staff. You have Zach Orr taking McDonald, so how 553 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 3: does he change and put his own imprint on the defense? 554 00:24:56,520 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: But man, offense, defense, special teams, they have every becausej 555 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 3: you could put Justin Tucker in there and give him 556 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 3: a blue label for what he's able to do in 557 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 3: the kicking game. 558 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 2: Like, they have a lot of. 559 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 3: Talent, which is why I want to say a Super 560 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 3: Bowl the bus. But the expectation is this team should 561 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: be one of the last two to four team standing. 562 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. A good point on special teams, by 563 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,919 Speaker 1: the way, because for this, this exercise, championship foundation, it 564 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: is just a quarterback, three offensive playmakers, three quality offensive lineman, 565 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 1: two pass rushers, three defensive playmakers in the back seven. 566 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,840 Speaker 1: So if you're sitting there listening to this going all 567 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: our kicker, our punter, our returner, well that's not what 568 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: this you know, not what this exercise is. But man, 569 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of blues there for the Baltimore Ravens. Let's 570 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 1: get to the Cleveland Browns up next. Here coming off 571 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 1: an eleven and six wild card campaign, Deshaun Watson coming 572 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: off injuries a yellow as a twenty eight year old. 573 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper is a rock solid green at thirty, and 574 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 1: Joku listed as a green here at twenty eight years old. 575 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 1: Obviously they bring over Jerry Judy as well, but I 576 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: would say in Djoku would be their next best weapon 577 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 1: offensive playmakers. Nick Chubb coming off injury is a yellow. 578 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: You look at the three offensive lineman Conklin and Betonio 579 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: both yellows, both good players, both on the other side 580 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: of thirty, you've got Wyatt Teller at twenty nine as 581 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 1: a green, really solid green. And then you've got Jedrick 582 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:17,119 Speaker 1: Wills at twenty five or Dwan Jones at twenty three. 583 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: Both those guys miss some time. They are young guys, 584 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: so they're yellows. Then you go to the defense. Obviously, 585 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett is a blue at twenty eight, Zadaria Smith 586 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: is a green at thirty one, Denzel Ward is a 587 00:26:28,840 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: blue at twenty seven. Corner Usu Cormoa is a rock 588 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: solid green, and then you've got either Newsom or Thornhill. 589 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: Either one of those guys would be greens. So you 590 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: see those two, the two that jump off the page. 591 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: They're obviously with Miles Garrett and Denzel Ward. Those are 592 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: the two building block pieces that they have on the 593 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: defensive side. 594 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, two building block pieces that they have on the 595 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: defense side. And look, I don't know if you are 596 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 3: a card player, but in college used to play space 597 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: and so. 598 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 2: Space is so. 599 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 3: Like you counting your books and you got the books 600 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 3: that are certains, and then you got your possibles. This 601 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,679 Speaker 3: team has a lot of possibles in terms of the blues. 602 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: Because look, let's let's talk about the elephant in the 603 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 3: room Deshaun Watson. DeShawn Watson was expected to be a 604 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: blue player when the Cleveland Browns traded for him. He 605 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: has not played to that level. There has to be 606 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 3: an expectation in the building that he's going to play 607 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: at that level, regardless of the injury in the shoulder, 608 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: because if he plays at a blue level, then that 609 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: helps David and Joku play at a Blue level, It 610 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 3: helps somebody Cooper go to a blue level. 611 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: It changes everything. 612 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 3: And if they lighten the box, that means Nick Chubb 613 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 3: comes back and he becomes a Blue. So a lot 614 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: of what we talk about when it comes to the 615 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 3: Browns hinges on the Seawn Watson. If he plays well, 616 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,199 Speaker 3: this team has the potential to be one of the 617 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: teams that we talk about as a heavyweight contendent in 618 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 3: the AFC. 619 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: If he doesn't, this team can be a pretender. 620 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 3: A lot of it and more pression than anybody in 621 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 3: the National Football League falls on the Seawan Watson. 622 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,160 Speaker 2: He has to play at the level of expectation. 623 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 3: When they got him from the Houston Texans, he was 624 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: supposed to tilt the game and their favor. He has 625 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,680 Speaker 3: not done that, so it's on him to get it done. 626 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: To me. The key too, if you look at Jedrick 627 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: Wills and Dewan Jones, those guys both at twenty five 628 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,159 Speaker 1: and twenty three years old, are very gifted, very talented. 629 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: When Dwan Jones was out there last year, he looked 630 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: like he, you know, should have been a top ten 631 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: pick in the draft the way that he played, So 632 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: that that is kind of a key part to that offense, 633 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: and I think that would help Deshaun Watson get those 634 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: guys healthy, get those guys playing well, and then those 635 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,719 Speaker 1: turned into true building blocks when you look at their 636 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 1: age and talent. I think that's something fascating. By the 637 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: way playing spades, just played all the time in college 638 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: and then out of college. I played with who is 639 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,359 Speaker 1: now my brother in law and Buck not proud of 640 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 1: this moment and the way we handle ourselves. But he 641 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: would put double sided tape, he put it on his shoe, 642 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: and then we'd be sitting across from each other. And 643 00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: then if I was gonna kneel, meaning I can't you know, 644 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: for those non paid spades, I can't win a hand, 645 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: and I was in big trouble, I kind of gave 646 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: him the signal, like I'm in some trouble. So he 647 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: would put stick a card to his foot underneath a 648 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: wooden table that you could and see, and then I'd 649 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 1: feel something nudge me. I would grab that card off 650 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: of his foot, take the card I needed to get 651 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 1: rid of, stick it back to his foot. He'd pull 652 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: his foot back in and lose saling Man. I'm not 653 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: proud of it, I said, I wasn't proud of it. 654 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: I was young. We all make mistakes when you're young. 655 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 3: When it went at all costs, DJ win, it all costs, 656 00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 3: win at all costs. 657 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: Just make sure do whatever you got to do to 658 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 2: get the dub on a day. 659 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, character, All right, Let's get to the Pittsburgh Steelers. 660 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson as the starting quarterback, thirty five year old yellow. 661 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: George Pickens is a green at twenty three, again blue potential, 662 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: but of green there. Friarmouth is a yellow at twenty 663 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 1: six years old. I'm guessing that's either contract or injury 664 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: related there. And then you've got the other playmaker spot 665 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: between Naj and Jalen Warren. Again contract related. There, there 666 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: are yellows. You get to the quality offensive lineman. Somalow 667 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: is a rock solid green. Then you get the two 668 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: young guys that are purples with Broderick and Troy Fatanu. 669 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 1: Both those guys have blue potential twenty three year old guys, 670 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: so that could be their you know, their bookends for 671 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: a long time. It looks like I believe Broderick Jones 672 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: is going to play on the left and Fatan who 673 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: is going to play on the right. But again, those 674 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: guys two twenty three year old tackles with a lot 675 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,480 Speaker 1: of ability that their growth will determine a lot with 676 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: this team. Then you get to the pass rushers. TJ. 677 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: Watt obviously a blue all day long, twenty nine years old, 678 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: even though he's coming off injury. I think we just 679 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: just disregard that to keep him as the blue. Alex 680 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: Highsmith is a green at twenty seven. Then you go 681 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: to the back end. I Minka is a blue at 682 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: twenty seven. Patrick Queen is a really solid green that 683 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: they brought over from the Ravens at twenty five years old. 684 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640 Speaker 1: Joey Porter with purple with a chance to develop into 685 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 1: a blue. He's twenty four years old. So when I 686 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: look at this team and take it all in there, 687 00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 1: looking at this foundation, buck to me the development of 688 00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: the young guys Broderick Jones and Fatano at tackles, and 689 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: then I would say Joey Porter Junior taking that next 690 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,840 Speaker 1: step at corner. Those guys have blue potential. So the 691 00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: sooner those guys develop and become those blue players, the 692 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: sooner you're going to see the Pittsburgh Steelers be a 693 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with. 694 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done a really good job of being competitive 695 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 3: without those guys playing at the blue level. Yet offensively, 696 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 3: you know, we have George Pickens, who's the guy that 697 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 3: is on the cuff. You can talk about Friarmouth and 698 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 3: Naje Harris or Jalen Warren offensively being able to make 699 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 3: plays and kind of kind of get inch closer to 700 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 3: that category. But to me, their offense will go as 701 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: this offensive line goes. We have two guys in purple, 702 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 3: Roger Jones and Troy Fontano who could be blue players. 703 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 2: And then you think. 704 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 3: About Isaac Simono Somalo being able to kind of get 705 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 3: into the converse conversation. If they're able to dominate up front, 706 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 3: it matters less what they have on the perimeter in 707 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: terms of blue players, because they can dominate in the trenches. 708 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: They can play the style that they want to play 709 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 3: where they run the ball, they're physical, they're controlling the clock, 710 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 3: and then there's setting their defense up for great situations 711 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 3: and still is do that. They certainly could be one 712 00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: of those teams that we talked about being hard out 713 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 3: when it comes to the postseason. 714 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: And the player who's not on here, Keanu Benton, I 715 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: think has got a chance to be a perennial Pro 716 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: bowler as a defensive tackle. But the way we have 717 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,960 Speaker 1: this here is with defensive with pass rusher. So Alex 718 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 1: high Smith with what he's accomplished still on twenty seven 719 00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: years old, he got that slot. But I think Keanu 720 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,600 Speaker 1: Benton is a championship level player. He's that got Blue 721 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: potential there, so he could end up he could end 722 00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 1: up really making a difference for that team as well. 723 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: Last team here in the North, we've got the Cincinnati Bengals. 724 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: Burrow at twenty sevens of blue. Jamar Chase is a 725 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: Blue at twenty four years old. T Higgins a Yellow 726 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: because of contract, but he's twenty five years old, so 727 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: if they know if they were able to get him 728 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: extended and get that deal done into the future, obviously 729 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: that flips to a blue player there. Then you've got 730 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: Zach moss A is a green at twenty six. So 731 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: those are your offensive playmakers, the three quality offensive line. 732 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: You've got greens here, Orlando Brown, Alex Kappa and Ted 733 00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,400 Speaker 1: Kerris twenty eight, twenty nine thirty one year old greens 734 00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,239 Speaker 1: pass rushers. Hendrickson's a blue at twenty nine, and then 735 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 1: the other spot you've got Hubbard at twenty nine or 736 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: Sheldon Rinkins at thirty. You're looking at green players for 737 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: either one of those guys. The linebacker position, you pull 738 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: out Logan Wilson as a green, borderline blue there. Jermaine 739 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 1: Pratts a green as well, so you could pick there. 740 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: And then the other playmaker spot you've got Geno Stone 741 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: and Cam Taylor Britt greens. So man, there's a lot 742 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: of choices for green players there on the defensive side. 743 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 1: And then you've got the young players there with Dax 744 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,960 Speaker 1: Hill and DJ Turner both his pinks, so a lot 745 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: this is a green team. Books. There's the stars there 746 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: with with Burrow and Chase and Hendrickson, but then a 747 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,960 Speaker 1: lot of greens, which to me makes the Bengals a 748 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: team with a very high floor. The way you look 749 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 1: at this exercise. 750 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, when you look at it, they do have a 751 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: lot of really solid starters, and it's their stars that 752 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 3: could pushed them over the top. When we talked about 753 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 3: Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, and Trey Hendrickson, what you like 754 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 3: about the Bengals has been their ability to draft and 755 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 3: acquire really good players and develop their own players and 756 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,919 Speaker 3: those things, because when you look, not many free agent additions. Yeah, 757 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:18,600 Speaker 3: or Linda Brown Junior came over, Geno Stone came over, 758 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: but the majority of their team are homegrown players that 759 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,799 Speaker 3: they have kind of identified development within their system and 760 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 3: then resigned them to retain their nucleus. When I look 761 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 3: at this team and I look at the rest of 762 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: the AFC North DJ, without question, this is one of 763 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 3: the more competitive divisions in football, and it's one of 764 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:38,520 Speaker 3: those that I think is going to be decided by 765 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 3: a coin flip. I know, we talked about the Baltimore 766 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 3: Ravens and all the Blues that they have, but every 767 00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 3: one of the division rivals has enough has just enough 768 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 3: ammunition to be able to knock them off. That's why 769 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: it'd be very very interesting to watch this division play out. 770 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you could make a case that they 771 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: have whoever you think is the fourth place team in 772 00:34:57,080 --> 00:34:59,440 Speaker 1: that division. Again, this is a division last year that 773 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: did not have team with a losing record. So the 774 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: depth of this division is outstanding, and I would say 775 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: the fourth team in this division is going to be 776 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 1: the best fourth team in the league. Like, it is 777 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:14,720 Speaker 1: a really really solid division. No no gimmes, no laps. 778 00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: And that's why when we look as you reference the 779 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens, having as many blues as they do and 780 00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:22,919 Speaker 1: having a stacked roster might not reflect itself and them 781 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: having you know, the best record of the number one 782 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,319 Speaker 1: seed once we get to the postseason, just because it's 783 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of a gauntlet there, provided the quarterbacks 784 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: stay healthy. In that division, it's a really good division. 785 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, really good division, very competitive division. Look. 786 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 3: I like doing these breakdowns because it does speak to 787 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 3: how competitive the league is, and it gives us a 788 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:47,759 Speaker 3: chance to spot like some of the great jobs that 789 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 3: the team bids have done across the league in terms 790 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 3: of stacking together to rosses and make good teams as 791 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 3: competitive as possible. 792 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: No doubt. All right, that's going to do it for 793 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 1: this episode. We have knocked out the AFC East and 794 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: the AFC North. If you've missed the NFC episodes, we've 795 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 1: got a couple of those. You can go back and 796 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 1: look those up. Check out the rosters there. And then 797 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,439 Speaker 1: the next episode, which will be tomorrow, we will wrap 798 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: it up with the a FC South and the a 799 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 1: f C West again looking at the you know, building 800 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 1: block pieces here, championship foundational pieces for these teams. It's 801 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 1: a it's a fun exercise. Hope you guys have enjoyed 802 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: it as much as we have. That's gonna do it 803 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: for us. We'll see you tomorrow. Right here on, move 804 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: the stick.