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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Nation Radio came home.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the Drive. I am Dale Lollie, and well

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Speaker 3: I'm here with Matt Williamson as I usually am. And

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Speaker 3: we got two new guys coming to Pittsburgh as well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, things have happened last couple of hours here. Happy

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Speaker 4: trade deadline day to all.

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Speaker 2: Happy trade deadline day.

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Speaker 3: And I knew nothing was going to happen with the

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Speaker 3: Steelers until after about twelve thirty pm today. Okay, why

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Speaker 3: is that because Mike Thomlins spoke at noon?

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Speaker 4: Ah, Okay, he doesn't need to tell anybody.

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Speaker 2: You really need to talk about that guy what we

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Speaker 2: think of that guy? I gotcha strategy, no strategy to that.

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Speaker 3: So as soon as Mike Tomlin's press conference was over today,

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Speaker 3: the Steelers h make a deal for Mike Williams with

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Speaker 3: the Jets. That's pending a physical for a fifth round

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Speaker 3: draft pick. They got to check him out, make sure

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Speaker 3: the knee is sound.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, that good stuff. He's got a history too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and then they go out in a choir. Preston

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Speaker 3: Smith from the Green Bay Packers edge rusher and get

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Speaker 3: him for a reportedly a seventh round draft pick. So

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Speaker 3: my immediate thought was Matt and I always think of

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Speaker 3: myself first the final day of the draft this year

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Speaker 3: when we're doing.

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Speaker 4: Draft, because there's also a Fields pick going to be

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Speaker 4: moved at some point.

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Speaker 2: You know, Fields was a six as it is right now.

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Speaker 3: If he doesn't play, So they've traded away their five,

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Speaker 3: they traded away they're six. They've traded away their seven. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I might call him sick that. That's a lot of

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Speaker 3: talking on Day three with not much to talk about. Well,

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Speaker 3: I think they have an extra though, right I think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're shut out on it. It's not

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Speaker 4: like them though, to be that light on pick no,

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Speaker 4: you know, going into a draft.

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Speaker 3: But they've went on acquired guys who can come in

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Speaker 3: and help. We've talked about Mike Williams. I don't think

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Speaker 3: this is a game changer for the Steelers, agreed, But

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Speaker 3: I do think that he gives them another quality NFL

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Speaker 3: wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So I'm going to do the scouting report on these

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Speaker 4: guys and go tell what you know, what you're getting.

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Speaker 4: Williams is an early first.

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Speaker 2: Round picks, a seventh pick in a draft. Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: mean he is huge.

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Speaker 4: Both these guys are huge, by the way for their

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Speaker 4: respective positions, and thickly built. And he doesn't run as

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Speaker 4: well as he used to, but he used to be

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Speaker 4: a six four two twenty pounds four to four type guy,

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Speaker 4: you know, high four fours. I would say, downfield player,

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Speaker 4: go up and get it physical as could be, especially

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Speaker 4: to catch point. He will block. Not a real sharpen

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Speaker 4: and out of his cuts type route runner.

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Speaker 2: But he is good at high pointing the foot very

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Speaker 2: very much. So.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's kind of where his bread has been buttered.

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Speaker 2: In fact, that the comp on him.

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Speaker 3: I went back and looked at his his NFL scouting combine,

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Speaker 3: Yeah stuff, and zero line wrote him up.

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Speaker 2: He caught forwards right, yeah. Yeah, the comp on him

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Speaker 2: was Plexico Burris. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I could see that. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: He high points the ball better than Burris ever did. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't burst and played as big as I always

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Speaker 3: questioned that with Burris because one of the when the

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Speaker 3: Steelers drafted him, you.

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Speaker 2: Know all you heard, well, he's got a great he's

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Speaker 2: got a basketball background.

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Speaker 3: He's really good at high pointing the ball and I'm

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Speaker 3: like watching him play all I watched a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of his Yeah, he wasn't particularly good.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, he couldn't have been a very good rebounder

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Speaker 3: because he just doesn't use he doesn't high point the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, he missed, miss time jumps and stuff. Now

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Speaker 2: he got better at that as he aged, but Williams

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Speaker 2: has always been good at that. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean he's a fade ball guy, you know,

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Speaker 4: that type of thing, some after the catch. He's a

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Speaker 4: tough eval just because I don't know how healthy he's been,

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Speaker 4: because really that's the number one knock on him is

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Speaker 4: he has a difficult time staying on the field. I

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Speaker 4: mean I was joke that no one lands harder than him,

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Speaker 4: but it's one hundred percent true. I mean he goes up,

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Speaker 4: gets the football, gets some weird positions and splat.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's not afraid to go get it. Oh right.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean he lands hard and you can

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Speaker 4: just feel it. Just watch him, like, wow, man, you

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Speaker 4: can see why some injuries have you know, plagued him.

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Speaker 4: I know for a fact that they were very interested

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Speaker 4: in him in free agency.

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Speaker 2: He had a visit scheduled here scheduled. This was reported

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Speaker 2: that there were plane tickets bots before.

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Speaker 3: He signed with the Jets because he had the visit

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Speaker 3: with the Jets first and the Jets didn't let him get.

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Speaker 4: Out of the building, right, Yeah, so he was going

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Speaker 4: to stop in Pittsburgh next, So they obviously have been

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Speaker 4: on top of the situation have a plan for him.

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Speaker 4: I do think they wanted size there, and he certainly

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Speaker 4: brings that. He's not super twitchy, but I wonder if

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Speaker 4: he's still working his way.

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Speaker 3: Back well in that regard. So if you look at

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Speaker 3: his stats from this year now, the injury that he

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Speaker 3: had was in game three of last year. Okay, but

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Speaker 3: in the first three games in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 2: Three four.

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Speaker 3: The Chargers, for the Chargers three games and he got

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Speaker 3: hurt in the third quarter of the third game for

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Speaker 3: the season, then yeah, yeah, he had nineteen catchers for

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Speaker 3: two hundred and forty nine yards and a touchdown in

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Speaker 3: their first three games, like two and a half games.

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Speaker 2: Realistically, I mean when he was on the field and

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Speaker 3: A especially with Herbert when when you know, if you

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Speaker 3: look at the numbers he had with Herbert, twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: one was seventy six catches for eleven hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: six yards nine touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: That's who he is. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two, he only played in thirteen games because

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Speaker 3: of injuries, but he had sixty three catches for eight

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Speaker 3: hundred and ninety five yards. He missed four games and

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Speaker 3: still had nine hundred yards. Last year, again, if you

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Speaker 3: look at that, you could extrapolate those numbers over you want,

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Speaker 3: but he had nineteen catcheres for two hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: nine yards in three games. He was kind of turning

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Speaker 3: into a not the number one because Keenan Allen was, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: they're a really good compliments. But yeah, he was turning

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Speaker 4: And I wonder in that third game, did you get

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Speaker 4: hurt in the first quarter?

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Speaker 2: You get hurt in the it was in the third quarter.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this year, the first two games of the season,

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Speaker 3: he didn't he didn't do a head.

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Speaker 2: He had one catch.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I don't think he's seen the field a ton

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Speaker 3: And then he kind of worked his way back into

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Speaker 3: catches against New England the next in Week three, four

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Speaker 3: catches for sixty seven yards against Denver, then he had

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Speaker 3: two catches for twenty five yards against Minnesota, and then

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Speaker 3: they traded for Devonte Adams.

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Speaker 4: Right right, I mean it's Rogers guy, you know, Right,

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Speaker 4: So I think he is working himself back to where

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Speaker 4: he has been in the past.

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Speaker 2: I think he's My.

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Speaker 3: Point was, I think he's better right now than where

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Speaker 3: he was at the beginning of the year.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I think you're right. I don't know that he's

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Speaker 2: ever going to be that eleven hundred yard receiver again,

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Speaker 2: but right he's had some very high moments. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, frankly, the Chargers were kind of cursed because

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Speaker 4: they had very few snaps with Herbert Allen Williams on

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Speaker 4: out and so he never really got to see that

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Speaker 4: in full go. But it was a good plan. You know,

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Speaker 4: Allen was the slot to move the chains guy, and

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Speaker 4: Williams is the big play scary dude.

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Speaker 3: I was kind of surprised when I looked at his stats,

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Speaker 3: Matt for his career, because you mentioned it.

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Speaker 2: He's always hurt. He missed. He missed six games his

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Speaker 2: rookie year, played sixteen and twenty eighteen played fifteen and

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Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, fifteen and twenty twenty sixteen and twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: and thirteen games in twenty twenty two, more than I

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Speaker 2: would have guessed. Yeah, yeah, I thought the same thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And you know, maybe it's because I've had

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Speaker 2: him in fantasy football.

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of questions.

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Speaker 2: There's always questionables and things that he's always dealing with.

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Speaker 2: The back he's dealing with a you know or not right.

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Speaker 2: But he's been highly fantasy relevant for his whole career,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: He's got almost five thousand receiving yards and thirty one touchdowns.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's when he's at his best, he's a

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Speaker 4: major addition. Yeah, I don't know where what you're getting.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what you're getting because the Jets really

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Speaker 3: didn't use him. Right again, you look at those those

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Speaker 3: that three game stretch and you're like, okay, was he

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Speaker 3: working his way back? Is this you know, three for

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Speaker 3: thirty four, Okay, now we're getting there.

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Speaker 2: The four for.

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Speaker 3: Sixty seven okay, and that was against Denver. That's a

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Speaker 3: good defense. Yes, And then it kind of tailed off

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Speaker 3: again after they acquired Adam.

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Speaker 4: Adams of course, Yeah, I don't have a ton more

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Speaker 4: to add. I mean, they know much more about his

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Speaker 4: medicals obviously, and his usage, and the Jets aren't a

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Speaker 4: pillar organization for getting the most out of them. So

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Speaker 4: I'm always I always, my intendo's always go up when

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Speaker 4: you deal with the Panthers or the Jets or some

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Speaker 4: teams that don't utilize their guys the way they thought

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Speaker 4: they would. We'll see. I mean, I would imagine maybe

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Speaker 4: not this week, but I imagine they look at him as

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Speaker 4: the number two. I mean, like that he's going to

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Speaker 4: line up in two receiver sets off as a pickings.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a rotation.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. The thing that he does I think

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Speaker 2: is it allows them to bump Van Jefferson in the

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Speaker 2: more of a slot role. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned the

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Speaker 2: blocking part of this. I do think he is a

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Speaker 2: good blocker.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's going to be a pre records that I

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Speaker 4: think from the wide receiver editions, but it.

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Speaker 2: Makes them more difficult, Like we'll.

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Speaker 3: See a lot of single when you've got a six

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Speaker 3: foot four wide receiver on the outside, most of the

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Speaker 3: cornerbacks you're playing against are five ten, five to eleven.

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Speaker 3: He's going to have a size advantage over just about anybody,

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Speaker 3: and typically over the course of his career, he's been

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Speaker 3: the guy that's been doubled.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, more so than Allen to be honest, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: when they both were on their best day, if you'd

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Speaker 4: watch old Chargers twenty two tape, not that old, most

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Speaker 4: teams feared him more than Allen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because he was the down the field. He's averaged

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Speaker 2: Now, did he move the needle like a Christian Kirk

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Speaker 2: If he comes in here, he likes it here, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well we're still in. We're still in. We're assuming

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Speaker 3: No, it's not going to happen, but it would a

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Speaker 4: The road, and it's it is a high upside move.

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Speaker 4: He was, I mean, that might have been his best stretch.

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Speaker 4: I thought it'd be a little cheaper, but it could

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Speaker 3: I thought it would be defensive line, defensive front help.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's kind of a combo player that he could

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Speaker 3: that veteran edge rusher that. Yeah, they don't have to

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Speaker 2: A big dude, He's really big. They both started like

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Speaker 3: He's probably closer to two seventy two seventy five than

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Speaker 3: I know that because Green Bay had been playing him

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Speaker 4: I do think he will go to the outside linebacker room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, they're not going to ask him to Cam

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's He is very capable and he's

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Speaker 4: I looked a while back super quick because he's like

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Speaker 2: Tackle power. Rush's a power rusher. He's not.

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Speaker 4: The other three Steelers Herbig Watt, high Smith are really

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Speaker 2: He isn't.

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Speaker 4: But his first step is really long, so he gets

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Speaker 4: You know, like his limbs are big, and he's powerful

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Speaker 4: But he's had a lot of success in this league too.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and you're talking about a guy who has

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Speaker 4: Okay, Washington drafted him, by the way, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, including last year he had eight sacks.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, right, And I mean he was pricey and

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Speaker 2: He's not getting that money. I just say, yeah, you're pricey.

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Speaker 3: You're probably you know, again talking to him saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: It's kind of surprising to me that green Bay. I

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Speaker 4: I don't quite get their strategy though. I mean, they're

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Speaker 2: I don't know what they have behind him, and Gary's

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Speaker 4: But I don't know what they have behind him that's

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Speaker 4: I don't think they were going to resign him. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You keep seeing his names pop up.

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Speaker 3: And maybe just maybe a team down in Baltimore was

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably played more snaps for

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Speaker 2: Now it makes me.

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Speaker 4: Wonder, is her Big is that injury looming a little

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Speaker 2: Who knows? Well, they wanted to open up I'm looking

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he'll start, He'll start across from Rashaun Gary.

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Speaker 3: But now they don't have a lot of depth Packers,

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But the Steelers, on the other hand, now they've got

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Speaker 4: NASCAR's four ends, but you know, like him and Cam

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Speaker 3: What I'm thinking, And like you get into it in

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Speaker 2: There's not a whole lot of difference.

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Speaker 3: There right right, right, And he's capable of rushing the passer.

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Speaker 3: And I just wonder, you know, they get the Ravens

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Speaker 3: Maybe Herbig's back next week, maybe he's not. But now

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Speaker 4: You know, it's its history. So no, he's an interesting addition.

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Speaker 4: You mentioned depth. I think that that's really important to them.

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Speaker 4: They want to keep a strength of strength you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, with all respect to the moons

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Speaker 3: No, And and you know you got by with that

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Speaker 2: You didn't have high Smith available. Good point. Yeah, you know, I.

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Speaker 3: Remember walking out of walking out of the locker room

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Speaker 2: Watt kind of thing going on here.

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Speaker 3: But the other thing about this, Matt, I mean, if

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Speaker 2: Too heavy, too high. Yeah, it's too high. You wear

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Speaker 3: Wat's playing ninety one point five five percent of the

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Speaker 2: That's too many.

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Speaker 4: It adds the chance of injury, it makes him less effective.

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Speaker 4: And frankly, he's been one to pull himself out of

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Speaker 4: top of it. I think he's been less likely to.

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Speaker 2: Do he hasn't done that.

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Speaker 3: Ye right, And I come back to the interception in

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Speaker 4: It takes a little takes a little bit out of you.

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Speaker 4: Ass rushing in general, against against multiple.

442
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Speaker 3: Multiple dudes, it's like, you know, think about running the

443
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Speaker 3: Gauntlet like four times in a row and like, yeah, yeah,

444
00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,159
Speaker 3: you sprinting through that.

445
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,840
Speaker 4: And he's always been smart and conscious of Yeah, I

446
00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:05,520
Speaker 4: better get out of here.

447
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:08,160
Speaker 2: One playoff will do me a world. Well, now you've

448
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,960
Speaker 2: got a guy you don't want those guys as opposed

449
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Speaker 2: to having Moon out there.

450
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Speaker 4: The drop off is nearly as much. Preston Smith gives

451
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Speaker 4: you a very capable guy. Yeah, yeah, no, I get it.

452
00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,679
Speaker 4: I had something else to say on that.

453
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Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

454
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Speaker 4: I'm sure it'll come up. But I've always been a

455
00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,880
Speaker 4: fan he's a second round pick. I liked him coming

456
00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,840
Speaker 4: out of school. He's not the twitchiest guy in the world,

457
00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:33,760
Speaker 4: but he does eat up a lot of ground. He

458
00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:37,040
Speaker 4: has power, he's experience, and he's still playing pretty well. Yeah,

459
00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,080
Speaker 4: so he can play left or right. He doesn't matter. Yeah,

460
00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,000
Speaker 4: it doesn't matter. And I think that's something that was

461
00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,680
Speaker 4: obviously very uh.

462
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:49,320
Speaker 2: Something they wanted. I just think they wanted one more, and.

463
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Speaker 4: I know they're light on day three. Gave me one more.

464
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 4: I always talk abut that with old lineman, like, yeah,

465
00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:57,360
Speaker 4: we'll just we'll get ten spots, give me eleven. Yeah,

466
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,560
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I wish they were

467
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,880
Speaker 4: flusher with Day three picks. Of course, seventh rounders are

468
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:08,880
Speaker 4: really not worth much now, Yeah, I mean much less

469
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Speaker 4: than five years ago.

470
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you really get much job.

471
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Speaker 3: And we're talking about a team that now has cap space.

472
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 3: You know, for years they didn't have the cap space,

473
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:18,360
Speaker 3: so they couldn't go out and fill in holes.

474
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:22,520
Speaker 4: Give me a guy for with yeah, hopefully twelve games

475
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 4: or whatever.

476
00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:23,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

477
00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: So it's just I think it's just the continued development

478
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Speaker 3: of the league.

479
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Speaker 2: Here.

480
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 3: We don't see in free agency guys signing four and

481
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,720
Speaker 3: five year deals anymore. No, everything is three years or less.

482
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,400
Speaker 3: So there's more available in the open market every year.

483
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not like if we don't get this guy,

484
00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:45,800
Speaker 4: we're doomed. We can go get somebody you were available,

485
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Speaker 4: right right, So there's a lot more fluid.

486
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Speaker 2: Of a league.

487
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Speaker 3: Now, Yeah, absolutely good examples here, let's get to a break.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. You're listening

489
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Speaker 3: to the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt

490
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Speaker 3: now will be back with more. These weren't the only

491
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Speaker 3: trades at how today we'll talk about.

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Speaker 2: More of them coming opponent did something, Yeah, absolutely, we'll

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Speaker 2: do that right after this. At least.

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Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

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Speaker 2: And we're back. I am Dale LOLLI.

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Speaker 3: He is the Matt Williamson and this is the Drive

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Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. And of course you can

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Speaker 3: hear the Drive every Monday through Friday from four to

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Speaker 3: six pm right here on Steelers Nation Radio. And of

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503
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Speaker 3: right to your phone directly, or you can watch on YouTube.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate that there as well. I didn't get to

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Speaker 3: the comments section today, Matt, because I was a little

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Speaker 3: busy with everything, yeah going on. I will get to

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Speaker 3: the comments on yesterday's show. See if anybody had any questions.

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Speaker 3: Of course, we'll get to the comments today as well.

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Speaker 2: Wants to speak today from there, not today, but I

510
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Speaker 2: have a peek here in there. Yeah, nobody likes you. No.

511
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Speaker 2: I also.

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Speaker 3: Partner one of our listeners, and I didn't look this up,

513
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Speaker 3: so I was just the Steelers going into today. Michael

514
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 3: Odesso lets us know that the stalls two fives and

515
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Speaker 3: three sevens for twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: I remember knowing that, and I can't remember which one

517
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Speaker 4: it was.

518
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Speaker 2: I knew they had some extras. Yeah, appreciate Michael letting

519
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Speaker 2: us know that. Yeah.

520
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Speaker 4: I mean sometimes you don't think about it, but you

521
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: make like those dots in green and those type of

522
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Speaker 4: deals last year, and like, oh, i'd you end up

523
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Speaker 4: with these extra lake picks. Yeah, okay, Mike Williams.

524
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Speaker 3: The Steelers made some corresponding moves. They released tight end

525
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Speaker 3: Rodney Williams from the active roster. Those kind of stinks, yeah,

526
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Speaker 3: but they waved wide receiver Andy Isabella and linebacker Craig

527
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Speaker 3: Young from the practice squad. I would assume Rodney Williams

528
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Speaker 3: goes back to the practice squad in case somebody tries

529
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Speaker 3: to sign him. Yeah, he's good special teams player.

530
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I always feel for everyone knows the business. It's brutal,

531
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Speaker 4: but I always feel for the guy that gets cut

532
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Speaker 4: in a different position.

533
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like we just have ends.

534
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Speaker 3: This one, to me is more about Tyler Mattakaevitch coming back.

535
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, he should be back for a special team or less. Yes,

536
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: he doesn't play offensive snaps Williams.

537
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right, but he's really good on special teams.

538
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 4: Yes, I mean he's a keeper. I mean I'd like

539
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Speaker 4: to have him available, you know. Yeah, so of course,

540
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,360
Speaker 4: any of the four tight ends get thinged up, he's

541
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Speaker 4: the first call.

542
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you keep him around and good dude, and and

543
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Speaker 3: had the big block on the on the punt return touchdown.

544
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Speaker 2: What's your training camps? He's been impressed.

545
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 3: Sealed the edge just a little bit, just enough, just enough,

546
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Speaker 3: just enough for Calvin Austin to catch the edge and

547
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 3: scoot around it. Uh So, a lot of a lot

548
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Speaker 3: of stuff going on around the league.

549
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, there are the coming opponent made him pretty probably

550
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 4: the biggest move.

551
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the the Washington Commanders go out and get Marshawn

552
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Speaker 3: Lattimore away from the Saints.

553
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Saints have to dump everyone. I mean

554
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 4: we were talking about this yesterday. There one of the

555
00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 4: three to four teams I think are in the worst

556
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Speaker 4: shape going forward. So turn it whatever you can.

557
00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: The picks.

558
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Speaker 4: He's still a high quality player. He's done a lot

559
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 4: of following number ones. He's a former number one pick.

560
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,959
Speaker 4: He's had a really really good career. They gave up

561
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Speaker 4: a Day two pick I think for him. I mean

562
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 4: it was something substantial, but yeah, it was not a

563
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,119
Speaker 4: seventh form or anything like that. I wonder if he

564
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Speaker 4: follows porter or follows pickings.

565
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Speaker 2: From the bat. Yeah, I don't know. That's the type

566
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Speaker 2: of player he is, and they don't have that type

567
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Speaker 2: of corner.

568
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,880
Speaker 3: No, they don't. And he wouldn't do that this week

569
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: or I don't know, that's what I say. I can't imagine.

570
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: I mean, unless it's just you got him.

571
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Speaker 3: That would be tough though, because everybody else in your defense,

572
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,680
Speaker 3: as you've always mentioned, when you when you have somebody.

573
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Speaker 2: Follow I have to adapt. They have to adapt to

574
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Speaker 2: what he's doing.

575
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Speaker 3: And if you haven't been, you haven't been doing that

576
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Speaker 3: with your secondary, you're probably not going to do it

577
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Speaker 3: right out of the gate.

578
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Speaker 4: I know, I don't know what to think about it.

579
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Speaker 4: I mean, I assume we'll see the field in some capacity.

580
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Speaker 2: Some capacity.

581
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 3: Maybe maybe he's just playing with nickel and dime something

582
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: like that, right, maybe, So if you're the Steelers and

583
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,200
Speaker 3: you see that, you live in twelve and keep them

584
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 3: at a nickel and dime.

585
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Speaker 2: Plus, you can run thought, you can run on Washington

586
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Speaker 2: all day long.

587
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, say that's their problem too. Their run defense is

588
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: not great. That's the minor being kind. Yeah maybe, yeah, maybe,

589
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean that would make some sense. Yeah, well, how

590
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 4: much do you think Mike Williams plays? Maybe maybe like

591
00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 4: DeVante Adams did his first day.

592
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it could be fifteen snaps something like that. Cooper

593
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 2: was like that, like fifteen snaps his first day as

594
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: a built anything it's like third and long or you know,

595
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,679
Speaker 2: something like that, or you got a special maybe just

596
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 2: come up with a specialty package. Hey, learn these ten plays, yeah,

597
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 2: or Russes tells them what Rout's running that time, that

598
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 2: could work too. Yeah, I mean, like this a go dude,

599
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 2: you know right? Yeah, yeah, but I don't know, you know,

600
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 2: is he out there blocking on running place? Probably not.

601
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Speaker 2: Both players will practice tomorrow though, I would assume so yeaheah.

602
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Speaker 2: I would assume that they got to be they probably come.

603
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Speaker 3: They both got the past physical ashys go right, and

604
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Speaker 3: so you would think they get the physicals out of

605
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Speaker 3: the way either tonight or first thing tomorrow.

606
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Speaker 4: That's several practices with your new team. Yeah, I would

607
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 4: think both of them get their jerseys already.

608
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've done this in the past, you know, like when,

609
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 3: for example, when they acquired Minka Fitzpatrick, he played every snap.

610
00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll go a first round pick. You're playing son,

611
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 4: you know we need you, all right? Yeah, so that

612
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 4: was you know, the rave for Washington.

613
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Actually, I think it's a good move for the

614
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 2: Saints too. The Ravens acquired Tredavious White. I'm not big

615
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,679
Speaker 2: on that move. No, was that a for a fifth

616
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Speaker 2: or is it later than that? I haven't seen the compensation,

617
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: but anything too much.

618
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Speaker 4: I thought he was pretty shot and injury history. He

619
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,880
Speaker 4: had a really good career too. It's not the same

620
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 4: start to his career. Yeah, the last couple of years

621
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Speaker 4: have been really, really rough. Said a lot of the

622
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Speaker 4: same things about Williams though, I mean, like, could you

623
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 4: rekindle his best years?

624
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 2: Blah blah. He's coming.

625
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: He's had some injuries, but Williams is big and they

626
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,199
Speaker 4: in white is you know what I mean? He was

627
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 4: a technician, a quickness guy, where Williams can stop, you know,

628
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 4: lose a step and still high point.

629
00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 2: Balls, you know.

630
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll see, Yeah, we'll see how that works out

631
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 3: for them. My favorite trade of the day, Matt was

632
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 3: Jonathan Mingo. I don't love the conversation, but Jonathan Mingo

633
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 3: goes to the Cowboys.

634
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: For a twenty twenty five fourth round pick.

635
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 3: The Cowboys also sent a twenty twenty five to seventh

636
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 3: round pick UH to Carolina for Johnny Mingo.

637
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 2: Johnny Mngo reunited with the with the Cowboys. He's always

638
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 2: been a Cowboys, a Cowboys, always been a Cowboy. Great,

639
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 2: it only makes sense.

640
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a match made in Heaven. Yes, absolutely, or

641
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 4: Texas for that batter. Yeah, this one's odd. Like I

642
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 4: got a bunch of tweets. Don't the Cowboys realize that

643
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 4: they're not buyers. But this isn't their year. They just

644
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 4: put Dack on injury reserve.

645
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 2: Think of this one though, Like, this.

646
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: Isn't the rental. No, this is someone they loved, must

647
00:27:57,720 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 4: have loved in the draft.

648
00:27:58,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

649
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 4: Who he went to Mississippi State, so everyone thinks, oh,

650
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 4: he looks like a J.

651
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,000
Speaker 2: Brown. He's big and he's ripped and he's a body beautiful.

652
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: Oh he's an AJ Brown X receiver.

653
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 2: No he's not.

654
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 4: He's more of like a Chinault Debo move around gadgety,

655
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 4: not sharp route runner. And Carolina, being a dumb organization,

656
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: lined him up at X and said beat man coverage

657
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 4: time and time again. I'm sure Dallas is like, we'll

658
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 4: use him differently.

659
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: They need a compliment to Ceedee Lamb.

660
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 3: Who's also a little dinged up. Yeah right, and they

661
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 3: you know you got Jake Ferguson there. This is a

662
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 3: move for down the road. I mean this is yeah,

663
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: this is when I play him a lot.

664
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: This this while they're out of things and maybe he's

665
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:41,520
Speaker 4: your two.

666
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you've got a couple of years left on

667
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,200
Speaker 3: his contract, so it's not like you know, this.

668
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 2: Is a second round pick.

669
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: This is this is more like trading for make a

670
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: Fitzpatrick where you still have him on his rookie day.

671
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you like the player.

672
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 4: I was shocked at the compensation, but he was a

673
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 4: second just a year ago, I mean this year and

674
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: a half ago. I mean, but I thought maybe you'd

675
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 4: give him cheaper than that. But if they loved them

676
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,480
Speaker 4: and they were playing on drafting them or one of.

677
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,080
Speaker 2: The officially they probably were. It sure seems that way. Yeah.

678
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: And actually when I heard it, that was one of

679
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 4: the first ones.

680
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: I heard of the day. It was early to day.

681
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought Brandon coach going Steelers? Is he going somewhere?

682
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: I thought that as well. But he's hurt, Yeah, like everybody.

683
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 3: That's the thing, you know, when you start looking around

684
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,760
Speaker 3: the league at the guys who were you know, quote

685
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: unquote on them, like they were all hurt.

686
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 4: Right, Like if the Saints even wanted to make a

687
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 4: big move and like trade of Lave, you can't you

688
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 4: can't get right, right, I mean, there's I don't even.

689
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 2: I don't know that Chrystal Lave. This is his second

690
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: concussion's fifth of his life.

691
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I mean he he may never play again.

692
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: He might not play the case I hope that the case.

693
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,560
Speaker 4: But at the very least, he's not playing this week

694
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 4: for sure. He may not play next week, may not

695
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 4: play again this Who knows. It's a concussion, right, you

696
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 4: can't trade for No, you can't.

697
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,000
Speaker 3: But you could have two weeks ago, right, but you

698
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 3: know not. Now, I've always said about concussion about him.

699
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 3: It's not like you can just unscrew the top of

700
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 3: the head and take a look in there and.

701
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: Go, oh, yeah, that's that's bone. Yeah, you're right, Yeah,

702
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,239
Speaker 2: I mean you just can't. Right, it'll be all right.

703
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 3: Concussions are always different, and when guys have multiple concussions

704
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 3: and short amounts of time, yeah, it's never good.

705
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 4: I think it's five going back to high school. Yeah,

706
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,200
Speaker 4: don't quote me on that. I'm not a doctor. I'm

707
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 4: not trying to spread rumors. And he's never gonna play again.

708
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,479
Speaker 4: But it's a concern. Yeah, So I hate hearing that,

709
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 4: you know, no, absolutely, Uh. The Bengals made a move.

710
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 3: They went out and got Khalil Herbert in exchange for

711
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty five seventh round draft pick. Tells me

712
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 3: that Zach Moss is he's done for the year. He's

713
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: it's got a neck injury. He's gonna probably go an

714
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 3: ir Actually he did get Yeah. Uh.

715
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: They also placed tight end Eric all On I he's

716
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: done for the year.

717
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 3: We talked about that this not this particular move with Herbert,

718
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 3: but the fact that they needed another running back because

719
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 3: it didn't look good for Zach Moss.

720
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: Herbert's a good fit for them. He's a good player period. Yeah.

721
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 4: So the Bears, it was like a minute in the

722
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 4: free agency they signed Swift and they are They drafted

723
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: Johnson and they had Herbert, and I thought immediately, someone's

724
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 4: going to trade for Herbert. And then you get into

725
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 4: the season, I'm like, someone's going.

726
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 2: To trade for Herbert.

727
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: Like, I'm shocked he lasted this long in Chicago, Like

728
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 4: why don't Dallas take him for I mean, he's a

729
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 4: borderline starter.

730
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: Last week saw him.

731
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, is he a fumbler or not great

732
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 4: in protection or something that.

733
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: I don't I don't know.

734
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, for some reason, you get kind of relegated. But

735
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 4: he's good with the ball in his hands.

736
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that helps them.

737
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 4: Makes me think they're not waving the white flag quite

738
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 4: yet either. No, they don't make a lot of trades.

739
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 4: They don't but doesn't help their defense.

740
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: No, nor could.

741
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: One single trade fich what's wrong with that defense?

742
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,240
Speaker 2: Nor they're they're in it to just go out and

743
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: try to outscore people.

744
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: So I didn't realize. I guess every team in division

745
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 4: made a deal.

746
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 3: Every team in the division made a deal because the

747
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns are waving white flag. Yeah, they they treated

748
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 3: Zadarias Smith to the Detroit Lions. The Browns acquired a

749
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 3: fifth round pick in twenty twenty five and a sixth

750
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 3: rounder in twenty twenty six in exchange for Smith and

751
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 3: a twenty twenty six seventh round pick.

752
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: This one's been rumored for like the last twenty four hours. Yeah,

753
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 4: that one was quite sure it was done. And I

754
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 4: forget who told me this, but I think what the

755
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,239
Speaker 4: sticking point was was Smith for a five and then

756
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 4: a lot of people got involved, and then Detroit says,

757
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 4: how about we do a pick swap to you know,

758
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 4: all right, that's enough, boom, you can have them, you know. Yeah,

759
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 4: good for the Browns to get anything. I mean, they

760
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 4: need fifth round picks are going to be important to them,

761
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 4: to say the least in all positions is this Watson

762
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 4: thing plays out. They're not gonna win anything with him

763
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: this year. He certainly has a Lion's mentality. I mean

764
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 4: he's a big, physical, run through your face type of guy.

765
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 3: He was actually the guy who lined up opposite Preston

766
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 3: Smith in Green Bay for a number of years. Oh

767
00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: the Smith brothers.

768
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,360
Speaker 4: Yea, yes, okay, because he also lined up opposite Bud

769
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 4: DePree in college.

770
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,000
Speaker 2: That was. Yeah, they were teammates in college.

771
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Smith brothers both get traded on the same.

772
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 2: Trade on the same day. How about that? They're not

773
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: They're not actually they're not brothers.

774
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 4: Was they were a good tan, they were a good

775
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 4: they both went their prime.

776
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 2: I didn't think of that. Huh. So that's a nice

777
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 2: pick up for the Lions too. Yeah.

778
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 3: The Browns also released defensive tackle Quentin Jefferson.

779
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 4: What that's about. I mean, he's up in age. Yeah,

780
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: I guess he saved a little bit of money. Is

781
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 4: he a character guy that we don't know about it?

782
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: Or maybe he just wanted out and they probably tried

783
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 3: to trade him and nobody wanted to deal for him.

784
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 4: And I mean, maybe they're trying to make room for

785
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 4: the Ohio State kid to play.

786
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: The rookie and everybody wants off that sinking ship. Yeah. Yeah,

787
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: he's not a good situation. It's a bad ship. Yeah.

788
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: I don't know.

789
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 4: Maybe he was real vocal about it in the locker room.

790
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Maybe, you know, Yeah, he's a veteran.

791
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: He's like, I'm going to speak up here because I

792
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: got I've made plenty of money.

793
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 4: Like or maybe opposite, Maybe they're just doing them a

794
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 4: real favor and be like no one wanted to trade

795
00:33:59,680 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 4: for you.

796
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: Go sign with somebody good.

797
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah. The Raiders did a little something here. They're bringing

798
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: in North Turner as an assistant to help their offense.

799
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh.

800
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 3: They've also bringing in Scott Turner his son, his son

801
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,280
Speaker 3: who will take a more prominent role following the firing

802
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 3: of Luke Getsy. And they've brought in Joe Philbin, the

803
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 3: coach their offensive line Joe Philbin at w and j

804
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: graduate Oh I didn't know that womber head coach in

805
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:29,600
Speaker 3: the league.

806
00:34:29,719 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah. I mean he's had a really

807
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 4: good career.

808
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,399
Speaker 3: I know a good offensive line coach. Was in Green

809
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 3: Bay for a long time, was the head coach of

810
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 3: the Miami Dolphins. I can remember talking to him in

811
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: twenty ten when the Steelers played Green Bay in.

812
00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: The Super Bowl. We talked, We pulled him aside, We

813
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: had a little W and J chat. Yeah, there you go. Cool.

814
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: How old is Philbin and Turner?

815
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 4: Though they're both old, they're both up at age. Yeah,

816
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 4: they're basically retired at this point.

817
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 3: But at this point he now has those two guys

818
00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 3: helping with the staff.

819
00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 2: He's got two.

820
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 3: Former head coaches. He also as Marvin Lewis helping with

821
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 3: the defensive side. He's got three former longtime head coaches

822
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 3: in the NFL or a long time you know.

823
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 4: Very highly established. Yeah, right, he needs it. I mean

824
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 4: he was a linebacker coach. He's only been a coach

825
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 4: for a couple of years. Is that a Al Davis

826
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 4: Mark Davis thing?

827
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this probably should have been what he had

828
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 2: done from the start.

829
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 4: I was thinking the same thing. If you had some

830
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 4: not even adults at the rooms, some grandfathers in the

831
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 4: room that have been around the coming and said, on

832
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: my knee, sonny boyl.

833
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:27,359
Speaker 2: How did you do this?

834
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you've got three different guys you can ask, well,

835
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 3: when you were a head coach, Yeah, what'd you do

836
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 3: in this situation?

837
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 4: But it does remind me of the old school Raiders,

838
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 4: though they would recycle players and oh yeah, plunk it

839
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 4: in Alsado and coaches as well. So I don't know

840
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 4: that's we keep talking about these bad organizations. I mean,

841
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 4: they all made trades, the Carolina Saints, Browns, and I

842
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 4: think the Raiders are the one that's slightly above those

843
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 4: in the terms of teams I at least want to

844
00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 4: be in charge of.

845
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Giants did not trade a Zizo Joli. They're

846
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: gonna hang on him. They must have listened to the

847
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 3: show yesterday.

848
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,399
Speaker 2: They's good. You don't want to give up on that guy. Uh.

849
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 4: And I thought Chase Young might have got traded too.

850
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 4: There's three or four teams, including the Bengals, were supposedly

851
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 4: highly interested in him.

852
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh. One final trade that we didn't get to

853
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 2: was Khalil Davis going from the Texans to the forty

854
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 2: nine ers former Steeler. Uh yeah, oh okay. There was

855
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: Khalil and Carlos. Yeah.

856
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: They Nebraska's wins. Yeah, they're both great combine guys, but

857
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 4: they were always bottom the roster types.

858
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even know you got traded. Yeah, that was

859
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: some minor trade. Yeah. Yeah, so that's it. That's the

860
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 2: trade deadline. We covered them all, right, Yeah, I think so,

861
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: I think I got everything. Mingo is the one I

862
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: was Johnny Mingo, Yeah, like somebody watch to Crushed the

863
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: Old Grave. He's I thought, like, somebody said something to

864
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: me this. I'm like, obviously, it makes sense for Johnny

865
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 2: Ringo to be a cowboy. Johnny Ringo has always been

866
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: a cowboy. He should be a cowboy. Yeah, I upened

867
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: the organization. Should have been a cowboy the whole time.

868
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 2: Mccur curly Bill, Yeah, yeah, somebody sweet thing.

869
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 3: The other day in a meme, show me what's your

870
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 3: favorite movie or that, what's your what's the best movie

871
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: of all time? I'm like, I think it's maybe the

872
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 3: most quotable I threw I threw cut in there from

873
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 3: I've been telling my son to watch it forever and

874
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 3: it's I'm like, oh, you'll love it. That's one of

875
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: the movies I will watch every time it's on. Yeah,

876
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 3: and I've seen it a million times.

877
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 4: It's been a long time since I've watched it. I mean,

878
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 4: now I'm thinking about it, but I never would try

879
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: it off.

880
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Tremendous, It's so great, tremendous, there's so many so many

881
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:41,720
Speaker 2: great lines.

882
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,240
Speaker 3: The lines are and the actor, I mean, the actors

883
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: are all like other big time guys, right, you.

884
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: Can't necessarily tell who all of them are.

885
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 4: Everything that comes out of Doc's mouth is a plus.

886
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: It's tremendous, tremendous.

887
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: It's easily my again, one of my favorite watches. It's

888
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: like watching money Python.

889
00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 2: Holy Grail. I stand corrected? You are?

890
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 3: Anyways, let's get to another break. He is the Matt Williamson.

891
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 3: I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here

892
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 3: on the Steelers Audio Network. Matt and I will be

893
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 3: back with more right after this.

894
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 2: At least.

895
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

896
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and

897
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

898
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: And we are back. I am Dale Lolly and.

899
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: He is Matt Williamson, and I am multitasking here as

900
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 3: you are. He's published two stories on Steelers Dot Common.

901
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 3: How those two guys fit?

902
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 2: Look at that? How about that? That's well done? You

903
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 2: like that? I'm going on Kirk Cousins on you. You like that? Yeah?

904
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 2: I'm just sitting here staring off into space. Wonder if

905
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: I were another coffee or now there you go.

906
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: So let's run through this real quick here. BRT Ben

907
00:38:56,840 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 3: Solac on ESPN looking at some of the winners and losers.

908
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: Is from today's trade stuff. He is the Kansas City

909
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 3: Chiefs as a winner.

910
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,280
Speaker 2: Or was pretty encouraging.

911
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 4: I mean he I miscast him a little bit to

912
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,359
Speaker 4: thinking he was outside the numbers go up and get it.

913
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 4: He had a lot of inbreaking routes. I'm not sure

914
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 4: he's going to be the juju you know, she rice guy,

915
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 4: but he did some of that stuff and they made

916
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 4: them a better team.

917
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 2: Makes him a better team. Yeah, I don't know. Like

918
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: I've seen people, you know, the Steelers go, try to go.

919
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't know he did. He didn't show anything. He

920
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: was a toughie, val too tough. Mich Williams one.

921
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, his Jets tape and his Titans tape from this year.

922
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: For those two guys, Mike Williams have been more productive

923
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 4: than There's not much under Hopkins.

924
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 2: Yeah right, right right, so, and Williams's younger.

925
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 4: I also think Hopkins probably wanted to go to Kansas City.

926
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,239
Speaker 3: Well, and there's a that's the other thing right now,

927
00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: it's a fifth round draft pick. If Kansas City goes

928
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 3: to the super Bowl, it becomes a fourth round.

929
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 2: Draft, so quite a bit.

930
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, you get going to the super Bowl,

931
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: So that makes a difference as well.

932
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: I like their chances after watching them last night too.

933
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 2: But it won't be an easy road. No. Well, uh, well,

934
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Zadarias Smith a winner. Mm hmm.

935
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,839
Speaker 3: He gets to leave Cleveland and he gets to go

936
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: to perhaps a super Bowl team.

937
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 4: I mean, is that one of the bottom three environments

938
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: to go to work every day till one of the.

939
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: Toll has to be miserable? Yeah, it has to be,

940
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 3: and you're just moving around the lake. Yeah, that's not

941
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 3: a far you drive, right, Every frustrated receiver for the

942
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 3: rest of time are winners. Yes, it was deadline. So

943
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 3: the receivers traded during this season, Mike Williams, Jonathan Mingo,

944
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: Deontay Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins, Amari Cooper, DeVante Adams. Yeah, just

945
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 3: over the last couple weeks, just over the last just

946
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 3: during this yeah, yeah situation.

947
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 4: And there's been tons I mean, even going back to

948
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 4: like Tyreek and Stefan Diggs and AJ Brown.

949
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 3: I mean, for first, guys didn't necessarily want to get

950
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: traded though, these guys all I think.

951
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: Kind of wanted out of their terrible situation. Yeah, and

952
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,919
Speaker 2: I want to leave. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point.

953
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 3: And you know, this is one of the things when

954
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 3: somebody said to me over the weekend, why didn't the

955
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: Steelers get any of these guys?

956
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: Davante Adams wanted.

957
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 3: To go to the Jets. The Raiders said, okay, we're

958
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 3: going to trade you to the Jets. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay,

959
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 3: I get that.

960
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: Amari Cooper wasn't getting traded from Cleveland to Pittsburgh. No,

961
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 2: it wasn't going to happen.

962
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 4: Neither was Deonta Yeah. I mean that was illegal. You

963
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 4: couldn't do that.

964
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 2: DeAndre Hopkins may have pushed to go to the Chiefs.

965
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,440
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe, I don't know.

966
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 3: If I want, I want one chance here to go

967
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 3: win a Super Bowl, can you trade me to the Chiefs?

968
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 2: I get it.

969
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 4: And if I was him, that's what exactly the conversation

970
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 4: I'd be having with the Titans GM.

971
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, back to back champs wouldn't have been interested. They

972
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 3: couldn't trade for Deontay Johnson.

973
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 2: They might have been in on Hopkins. We have no idea,

974
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 2: we have no idea. I wouldn't have traded for Jonathan Mingo.

975
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 2: He doesn't do the Steelers anything. No, he doesn't do anything,

976
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 2: and they be a quick fit. They got Mike Williams.

977
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, that's what's that's what was traded in

978
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,879
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. Now, maybe it would have been Kirk.

979
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 2: Maybe it would have been Kirk if that, you know,

980
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: if it went a little differently, right, Yeah, so, but

981
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 2: it didn't. That's the way it goes. Losers the Dallas Cowboys.

982
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 4: I think that's under the assumption of you think you're

983
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 4: a winner, but you're not. And I don't think that's

984
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 4: what they're doing.

985
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: That's not what That's not what this is about.

986
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 4: You could say that's a round too high to give

987
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: up for a second round pick from a year ago,

988
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 4: and I'm probably on board with that. But Cooks is

989
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: not going to be back next year. Yeah, you know,

990
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: I don't think they're in it to win it.

991
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: I mean, Dak's on, I are right, he's gonna He's

992
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: out at least the next four weeks.

993
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 4: So, I mean, how good is Cowboys in current construction

994
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: minus Dak plus Parsons.

995
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 3: Maybe Parsons gets back this week, Maybe maybe they just

996
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,280
Speaker 3: say we're not going to rush him back because.

997
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: It doesn't make them. It doesn't equal contender to me.

998
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 2: No, no, although they did win games with Cooper Rush

999
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago.

1000
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 4: I know there's some talk that they want to get

1001
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 4: Lance a little bit involved to like with the package.

1002
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 4: If the season goes officially down the toilet.

1003
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, you know. Uh also losers bench young, corner

1004
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: quarterbacks bench young, like the Richardson's of the world. Well,

1005
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 2: Young's back, Young's back. Anthony Richardson was not getting traded. No, no, no, no,

1006
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,399
Speaker 2: I'm not sure any of them are ready to pull

1007
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 2: the trigger on those.

1008
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 3: No, Anthony Richardson will play for the Colts again this season.

1009
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 4: I think Stichen said who's their head coach?

1010
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yea, yeah, you're right.

1011
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: I think he said Flacco's our starter from here on out.

1012
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 4: I thought I read that this morning. But I still

1013
00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 4: think Richardson at.

1014
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 3: Some point, at some point ownership where the GM is

1015
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: gonna go, hey, we're now out of it.

1016
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I bet he's Do you think

1017
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 4: he is the Week one starter next year? I think

1018
00:43:57,760 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 4: he is.

1019
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 2: I think he is too. You don't know. Up Rice young.

1020
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a top ten pick, right, you need

1021
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 2: to find out about him. You knew that when you drafted.

1022
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 2: You knew that, you knew when he draft.

1023
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: When you drafted Anthony Richardson, he'd only played ten college games.

1024
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: Right, this is going to be a long process.

1025
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1026
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 4: Now it went worse than you expected, I'm sure.

1027
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that. However, what'd you think you were getting?

1028
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 3: His completion percentage had gone down. I know each week,

1029
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 3: I know to where he was completing thirty percent of

1030
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 3: his passes.

1031
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: And looking more and more rattled than you know. So

1032
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 2: I get it. You need to you need to hit

1033
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: he Just take a sit back when wats Joe the

1034
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,360
Speaker 2: next six weeks.

1035
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,320
Speaker 3: Now out, they're in it, and they're in the playoff,

1036
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: you know, potential to make the playoffs. They'll stick with Flacco.

1037
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but as soon as they're out of it,

1038
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 3: Anthony richards is going to be in the starting lineup.

1039
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 4: Agree, And I think he will be the Week one

1040
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 4: starter next year.

1041
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. Uh.

1042
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 4: The New York Jets losers losing a lot of games lately,

1043
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 4: and you're investing in stuff that's not going to help you.

1044
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't think they're back from the dead.

1045
00:44:58,280 --> 00:44:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1046
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 3: They paid Mike Williams six point six million dollars for

1047
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 3: twelve catches for one hundred and.

1048
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 2: Sixty six yards. That's a bad move. It's a bad move. Now,

1049
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: there were injuries involved.

1050
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was coming back. You knew that, knew

1051
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 3: you knew that when you assigned him. He didn't do

1052
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 3: he didn't do anything for them in the preseason.

1053
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 2: But it's a massively unsuccessful signing. Yeah, well, I guarantee.

1054
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: Like so, when the Steelers had the visit set up

1055
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:28,960
Speaker 3: with Mike Williams, yeah, the next the day after he

1056
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: was scheduled to go to New York, they probably had

1057
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 3: already talked about with the with the agent. Well, here's

1058
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,600
Speaker 3: what we're kind of thinking offer wise. Otherwise, you know,

1059
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:39,400
Speaker 3: if you're the agent, you probably don't even set up

1060
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 3: to visit it. We're gonna offer you a minimum. Well

1061
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: I'm not interested in that. We're gonna go We're not

1062
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 3: even gonna come in. Yeah, they weren't going to pay

1063
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 3: him ten million dollars that the Jets gave him this season.

1064
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't know.

1065
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 3: That's why he took the Jets steal. Yeah, yeah, Yeah,

1066
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 3: the Steelers weren't offering anything. I wouldn't have been offering

1067
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 3: anything close to that. I bet it was six Yeah,

1068
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 3: now they get the player, they give up fifth round pick,

1069
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 3: but they get the player for like six hundred thousand dollars.

1070
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,279
Speaker 2: That's what I said.

1071
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:05,400
Speaker 4: I'm not sure i'd call the Jets a loser because

1072
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: you turned six point five million into.

1073
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 2: A fifth round pick. Yeah, but you the Jets this

1074
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: season is a loser. You also had to get You

1075
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: also then gave up picks to go get Devonte Adams, right, which.

1076
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 4: Wouldn't have happened if Williams was tearing the cover off

1077
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 4: the ball, you know.

1078
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: Or if you know Aaron Rodgers actually threw the ball

1079
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: to him every once in a while, and didn't you know,

1080
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 3: throw him under the bus when he just threw one

1081
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: up down the field. So you know, look look at

1082
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 3: him like the interception was his fault. The twenty twenty

1083
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 3: five New Orleans Saints cap, well, that's always been a loser,

1084
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 3: say twenty twenty six. Yeah right, they are screwed.

1085
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,839
Speaker 4: They're in such bad I'm surprised they didn't move more. Yeah,

1086
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 4: tire math out, what do they have?

1087
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:51,720
Speaker 2: The trade?

1088
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,680
Speaker 4: Though, you would think a veteran. I thought Young was

1089
00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 4: gonna go all right, Yeah, I think Young was go.

1090
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but then they want tyra in Math out

1091
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,479
Speaker 3: at this point, apparently declining. Player's thirty two years old, right.

1092
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Speaker 3: Cincinnati running back Zach Moss.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they got hurt. He got hurt. Yeah. I think

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Speaker 2: he's out for the year and he's probably never plays

1095
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Speaker 2: for the Bengals again. Okay, he probably it's elsewhere next year. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: He's not bad, no, but not gonna work out. It

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Speaker 3: was a two year, eight million dollar contract. They can

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Speaker 3: easily get out from under that, I would think.

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Speaker 2: But I think Herbert's off after the year. Yeah, maybe,

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Speaker 2: I think that's yeah, fourth year. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: So those are the winners and losers according to uh

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Speaker 3: what I said it was. That was Ben Solak on ESPN.

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Speaker 4: He had to whip something up pretty quick, apparently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough to do sometimes sometimes you don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: do it breaks. I think those, yeah, just get it done. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: that's going to do it

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Speaker 3: For our number one of the drive here on the

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Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network, Matt and I will be back with

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Speaker 3: our number two right after this