WEBVTT - It's OVER...Trump WON! 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:01.880 Welcome. 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:04.680 It is verdict with Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson with 0:00:04.720 --> 0:00:08.200 you and Senator it is a big win for Donald Trump. 0:00:08.680 --> 0:00:10.920 This is, as some have described it, two in a 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.920 row and two last places in a row for Nicky Haley. 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.520 She says she's not dropping out, she's just begun and 0:00:17.560 --> 0:00:19.840 this thing's going to go on for quite a few 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.640 more states. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.280 In her words. Give me your reaction to that. 0:00:23.960 --> 0:00:28.000 Well, the simple reality is this thing is over. Trump 0:00:28.200 --> 0:00:32.680 has won the Republican nomination. You and I are sitting here. 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:37.720 It is eleven eleven pm on Tuesday night. So the 0:00:37.800 --> 0:00:40.080 votes are not fully counted. But as we sit here 0:00:40.159 --> 0:00:43.200 right now, seventy seven percent of the votes are counted. 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:48.160 In New Hampshire, Donald Trump has one hundred and thirty 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:53.479 nine thousand and one, which is fifty five percent, and 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:57.160 Nicky Haley has one hundred and nine thousand and six 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.760 hundred and thirty nine which is forty three v zero 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.440 point four percent. So as we sit here right now, 0:01:04.240 --> 0:01:08.000 Donald Trump has an eleven and a half point lead 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:11.520 in New Hampshire. The race has been called for Trump. 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:14.520 He's gonna win New Hampshire. And so where do we stand? 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:19.440 Where we stand is Trump won Iowa by thirty points, 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:24.320 and Trump has one New Hampshire, and it's very likely 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.000 he will live one New Hampshire by double digits. The 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:29.560 exact margin won't be known until late in the night, 0:01:30.000 --> 0:01:32.560 but it is very likely to be double digits. Right now, 0:01:32.600 --> 0:01:36.680 it's eleven and a half points if any candidate wins 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:41.520 Iowa and New Hampshire. The fat Lady singing Katie bar 0:01:41.680 --> 0:01:45.680 the door, it is over. The big question right now 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.760 is what is Nicki Haley doing. I don't know. I 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:57.440 think it is seventy thirty that Nicky Haley stays in now. Frankly, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.720 the rational thing for Nicki Haley to do is drop 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:06.520 out now. And the reason is simple. She's headed to 0:02:06.560 --> 0:02:09.480 South Carolina. That is her home state. She was the 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:14.720 governor there. She is going to get clobbered in South Carolina. 0:02:14.720 --> 0:02:17.320 It's going to be double digits. It could be as 0:02:17.320 --> 0:02:20.440 big as iwa it could be thirty points. And I 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:23.440 will say, when you lose your home state by that 0:02:23.560 --> 0:02:29.840 kind of crushing double digit margin, it leaves a mark. Now, 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:32.800 I mentioned I think the odds are seventy thirty that 0:02:32.880 --> 0:02:35.600 Nikki Haley does not drop out. She said that tonight. 0:02:36.120 --> 0:02:39.160 Her speech tonight was defiant. I'm staying in, I'm going 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.200 the distance. I get that. And the reason I think 0:02:43.240 --> 0:02:46.760 the odds are seventy thirty she stays in is because 0:02:46.800 --> 0:02:50.280 she has a crap ton of money. The billionaire donor 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.679 class is all behind her. Now, I got to say 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:57.200 the billionaire donor class. Look, I know a lot of 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:06.120 the Republican billionaires. They are astonishingly consistently wrong when it 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.120 comes to politics. They keep supporting candidates who lose. And 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:15.480 what's weird. Look, these billionaires have been incredibly successful business leaders. 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.799 They know how to run companies, they know how to 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.280 sell goods to customers, they know how to respond to data, 0:03:21.880 --> 0:03:25.280 and yet when it comes to politics, they are myopic. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:29.480 Their worldview is essentially, well, all the people in the 0:03:29.480 --> 0:03:32.280 country club agree with me, so that's what I'm going 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.639 to do, And they don't notice that they keep losing 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:37.200 and losing and losing and losing, and they don't have 0:03:37.440 --> 0:03:41.960 the rational response when your approach to politics is this 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:45.960 isn't working, is to say, what am I doing wrong? 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:52.320 Like apparently I'm misunderstanding. Oddly enough, the entire country is 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.560 not like the country club in the Hamptons, like there 0:03:55.600 --> 0:03:59.720 are people in Flyover country who have a different view. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.920 The simple reality Nikki Haley has run as an unapologetic 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:07.680 establishment moderate. 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:10.280 Yeah, that's where money is coming from. 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:15.880 Look, look that's catnip to Republican donors. They are so excited. Yes, 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:19.800 that's what they want. They want an establishment moderate. Listen, 0:04:20.000 --> 0:04:23.640 in virtually every state in the country, the numbers are 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:28.240 establishment moderates are about thirty percent of the primary vote. Now, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.040 if you want to appeal to thirty percent of the 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:33.599 primary bote, that's a great thing to run. As the 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:37.040 problem is, and it's a simple question of math. Thirty 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:44.120 percent does not beat seventy percent. And I don't know 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:49.159 how these gazillionaires twist themselves into pretzels thinking my thirty 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.400 percent is going to beat seventy percent because something's going 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:55.840 to change. The rational thing, as I said, would be 0:04:55.880 --> 0:04:57.680 for her to drop out. I don't think she will 0:04:58.279 --> 0:05:01.680 because she's got so much money. As we talked about 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:04.159 in yesterday's podcast, and this was an unusual week. I 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.040 want to encourage you guys, if you are interested in 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.080 the presidential primary process, this is going to be a 0:05:11.080 --> 0:05:14.360 week that we're going to put out five podcasts we 0:05:14.400 --> 0:05:17.719 put out one Monday. I gotta say, Ben, you really 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.000 liked the Monday podcast? Is that fair to say? I did? 0:05:20.080 --> 0:05:21.720 It was one of my favorite ones we've ever done. 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.080 So why so tell people why? Because for folks that 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:27.120 are listening, if you didn't listen to Monday's podcasts, I 0:05:27.160 --> 0:05:28.840 think you ought to go back and listen. But Ben, 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:29.600 tell people why. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:31.280 I'm gonna be honest. 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:34.479 I love when people get to see the side of 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:36.760 you that I know and I get to see and 0:05:36.920 --> 0:05:40.640 to hear you talk personally about your presidential campaign in 0:05:40.720 --> 0:05:45.160 sixteen and the blood, sweat and tears that goes into 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.360 a political campaign, being privileged to be around your campaign 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.720 in sixteen and working on the Bush campaign in two 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:56.960 thousand and four and others, and understanding just how intense 0:05:57.000 --> 0:06:00.280 it is and to get your perspective on all of this, 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.800 but also your memories was something that I was so 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:06.000 happy that other people got to hear it because I've 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:07.880 gotten to get some of those stories from you, and 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:10.279 I even got some news stories from you on Monday 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.839 as well. But we got done with it and I 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:16.239 was like, this might be one of my favorite shows 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:18.600 that we've ever done. Because it just showed a sight 0:06:18.640 --> 0:06:20.120 of you that I get to see that I want 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:21.160 everybody else to see. 0:06:21.160 --> 0:06:22.000 If that makes sense. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.240 Well, look, one of the things that I think makes 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.640 this podcast work is you and I are genuinely friends. 0:06:27.680 --> 0:06:31.839 We hang out together. We play tennis together. You kill me. 0:06:32.560 --> 0:06:35.960 We play pickleball together. You kind of suck at pickleball, dude, 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:36.360 It's true. 0:06:36.400 --> 0:06:36.840 I hate it. 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:40.040 We haven't played poker yet together, but I'll kick your 0:06:40.040 --> 0:06:41.000 ass at poker. 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:44.719 I love the trash talking. This is also very accurate. 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:45.920 It's extremely accurate. 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.120 I won't remind you the one time we did play poker, 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:49.039 but we'll keep going. 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.040 Look when we started this podcast, and this is pre you. 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:57.320 When I started this podcast with Michael Knowles and by 0:06:57.360 --> 0:06:58.880 the ways, like four years ago, and I didn't know 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:01.760 what the hell of podcast was. I remember our first 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:04.680 guest was Lindsey Graham. Yeah, Lindsay Graham came down to 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:07.680 a basement in Washington, d C. And his question was 0:07:07.720 --> 0:07:13.000 what the hell is a podcast? And I wasn't much 0:07:13.560 --> 0:07:15.400 I felt sort of avant guarde because I knew what 0:07:15.440 --> 0:07:18.720 a podcast was, but I wasn't much more educated than 0:07:18.720 --> 0:07:21.560 he was. And some of the early and best advice 0:07:21.600 --> 0:07:23.680 I got is they said, Look of the best podcast 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.560 is like you and I are sitting down at a 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.520 dinner table. We have a couple of glasses of wine, 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:32.480 and we're feeling good and we're talking, and we try 0:07:32.520 --> 0:07:34.680 to do that. We try to have a real conversation 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.119 and because we're friends, because we've got sometimes we agree 0:07:39.160 --> 0:07:41.440 a lot, but sometimes we disagree, we've got different takes, 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.960 and the back and forth is what makes it interesting. 0:07:44.440 --> 0:07:46.640 And all right, I'm gonna give all the podcast listeners 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.320 an interesting insight. You may be wondering, Hey, wait, why 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:52.960 do we have a podcast on Monday and then a 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:56.360 bonus podcast on Tuesday, and then a podcast on Wednesday, 0:07:56.400 --> 0:07:58.119 and then a podcast we're going to have on Friday 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.160 and then one on Saturday. Like that's where do you 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.800 normally do Monday, Wednesday and Friday and than the Saturday recap? 0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:04.640 All right, so I'm gonna let you all in on 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:08.760 the insight. Why So Sunday afternoon we recorded the Monday 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.640 podcast and we did it, and it's funny. Ben had 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.320 a bunch of topics he wanted. He wanted to get 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:16.440 into China, he wanted to get into the border. He 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.720 wanted to get into all this stuff, like all these ideas, 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:22.720 and I was like, you know, I just think, like Iowen, 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:24.640 New Hampshire will consume it all. And he's like, I 0:08:24.640 --> 0:08:26.920 don't know, that's ten fifteen minutes. I'm like, yeah, No, 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:28.640 I kind of feel like I have more to say. 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:32.440 Yeah, And you were right on that one. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.520 And the interesting thing is, look to folks listening to this. 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.400 You and I don't know what the hell we're gonna say. 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.080 We're doing a podcast right now. You don't know what 0:08:41.080 --> 0:08:42.600 I'm going to say. I don't know what I'm gonna say. 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.720 I mean, we part of what hopefully makes this interesting. 0:08:46.200 --> 0:08:50.640 We just have a conversation, and hopefully you and I 0:08:50.679 --> 0:08:54.120 are relatively non knowledgeable people and we have conversations about 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:55.760 issues that matter and we sort of go back and 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.160 forth and follow where the music goes. Anyway, Sunday we're 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.640 sitting there, we're doing YouTube, and we recorded what ended 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.920 up being an hour and ten minute podcast, and we 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.120 started with I'm Talking with I when I did sort 0:09:08.160 --> 0:09:09.880 of a deep dive in the history of eye with 0:09:09.880 --> 0:09:12.440 the history of New Hampshire, the history of South Carolina, 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:15.480 and I thought it was interesting. I like, like, look, 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.200 this is what has determined the leader of the free 0:09:18.200 --> 0:09:21.320 world for the last fifty years. That's interesting stuff to me. 0:09:22.400 --> 0:09:25.680 But then after like thirty forty minutes we started getting 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:28.480 into you asked, well, what does it mean to drop out? 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.880 Ron Dessatus just dropped out? What's that like? And listen, 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.080 there are not many people on planet Earth that have 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.640 gone through like a winning presidential campaign that you almost 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.319 win and then you don't and then you drop out 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:43.559 and sort of the trauma and the personal relationships and 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:46.760 the grassroots and all of the dynamics, and so I 0:09:46.840 --> 0:09:48.280 tried to talk about all of that, and that was 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.280 sort of the second half of the pod we recorded. 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:54.319 And then afterwards Ben said to me, Hey, I love 0:09:54.400 --> 0:09:58.280 this pod, but we get a problem. The second half 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.160 is like a thousand times than the first half. Like 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.880 the first half is kind of interesting in academic and theoretical, 0:10:05.400 --> 0:10:08.720 but the second half is And Ben, what you said 0:10:08.760 --> 0:10:11.280 is what you just said a minute ago, like, is 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:14.160 why I listened to the podcast because it's stuff you 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:18.600 can't hear anywhere other than Verdict. It's like insight from 0:10:18.640 --> 0:10:22.320 someone who's run for president come in second and almost one, 0:10:22.520 --> 0:10:25.480 and so you and I made a weird decision. We said, Okay, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.760 we have an hour and ten minute podcast we recorded, 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:34.280 let's take the second half, cut it off and make 0:10:34.320 --> 0:10:38.800 it Monday's podcast because you said, and I didn't disagree, 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:42.040 that's the most interesting and stimulating part. So let's give 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:46.040 people what they'll like the best. But then I said, look, 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.599 I thought the stuff about the history of Iowa and 0:10:48.640 --> 0:10:52.199 New Hampshire, South Carolina for me was interesting. Maybe I'm 0:10:52.280 --> 0:10:54.520 enough of a political geek that I'm interested in stuff 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:56.680 that is not as sort of scintillating, but I thought 0:10:56.679 --> 0:10:59.560 it was really good stuff. And so we came up 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.480 with Initially, I said, well, what if we put it 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:05.760 out on Wednesday? And Ben said, all right, you moron, 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.840 you can't put it on a Wednesday because Tuesday night 0:11:08.080 --> 0:11:10.280 the New Hampshire Wesday. Yeah, so if we put out 0:11:10.360 --> 0:11:13.680 an academic discussion of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:16.520 on Wednesday, right after what happened in New Hampshire, people 0:11:16.559 --> 0:11:19.439 will be like, what the hell's wrong with you idiots? Yeah, 0:11:19.520 --> 0:11:22.040 so we came up with, all right, screw it, let's 0:11:22.080 --> 0:11:24.120 chop it up, make it a second pod. We'll just 0:11:24.120 --> 0:11:27.040 put it out on Tuesday Bonus pod see if you 0:11:27.200 --> 0:11:31.240 like it, and now we're here Wednesday. But the point 0:11:31.280 --> 0:11:33.480 of all of this is that it's meant to be 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:39.360 real time, not different from right now. You're in Texas, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:42.600 I'm in DC. But if we were sitting at a 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.920 dinner table, this is what I'd be saying to you, 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:46.280 and you'd be saying the same. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:48.640 Presumably absolutely, And that's the part. 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.760 That's the part that I love the most about getting 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.400 to do this with you, is that people get to 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:57.479 hopefully see that aspect and hear these types of conversations. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:00.000 And that's when we started tonight. I was like, all right, well, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.160 I got to know your thoughts on Nicki Haley. 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:06.360 Should she drop out? And who gets to make that decision? 0:12:06.480 --> 0:12:10.320 If you've got the money to keep going, and Nicki 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.400 Haley clearly has the establishment I would call it the 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.760 rhino money to keep going. What is in it for 0:12:17.800 --> 0:12:19.719 her to keep going if you keep losing? I want 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.640 to get your thoughts on that. Number one and number two. 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:26.920 There is some politicking involved in this decision, and there's 0:12:26.960 --> 0:12:29.560 a theory that if she can hang on long enough, 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:32.679 it gives her a better chance of being chosen as 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:36.280 the VP to unify the party if it's divided for 0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.200 weeks on end. States keep coming and going and coming 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:43.200 and going. And there's people that have said to me 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:46.439 in the last eight or nine hours, hey, is Nicki 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:49.320 Haley basically running for vice president? If she can extend 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.880 it long enough, she's the last one standing that it 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:53.920 may be in a position where Donald Trump's is fine, 0:12:53.920 --> 0:12:56.079 I got to pick you to unite the party because 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.559 we're so divided because of this drag out, knockdown primary 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:02.200 that we have your reaction about those questions. 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:06.439 I don't think Niki Haley is running for VP anymore. 0:13:08.320 --> 0:13:13.080 I don't think Trump's gonna pick her as VP. I 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:18.960 think she's running. She's decided. I am the great hope 0:13:19.000 --> 0:13:23.760 for the establishment. I am the never Trumper vision. And 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:25.640 the problem is a lot of those never Trumpers have 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:29.520 a ton of money and they can't stand Trump, and 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.319 they'll keep writing checks, but they don't think enough about 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.960 politics to think, how do you get to fifty one percent? 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:42.560 And so I think she will stay in this race because, 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:46.040 as we talked about on Monday and Tuesday, the reason 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.160 virtually every single presidential candidate in history drops out is 0:13:50.200 --> 0:13:55.200 the same reason they run out of money. Nikki Haley 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:57.439 hasn't run out of money. She's got people who will 0:13:57.480 --> 0:14:00.120 keep writing checks as they hate Trump, so I think 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.040 she'll stick around. Now here's why I think it's dumb. 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:06.440 I think every day and every week she sticks around 0:14:06.559 --> 0:14:11.520 will hurt her. And getting crushed in her home state 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:15.280 I think will do real damage. And in my view, 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.880 where we are right now, this is entirely about twenty 0:14:17.920 --> 0:14:21.480 twenty eight. I think if Nicki were rational, and I 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:24.120 doubt she is. I like Nikki, and look, Nicky's a 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:27.800 friend of mine, She's she's a nice person. But almost 0:14:27.880 --> 0:14:32.000 every presidential candidate is surrounded by sycophans. They're surrounded by 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:34.960 sycophants who tell you what you want to hear. But 0:14:35.080 --> 0:14:39.880 even more importantly, their paycheck depends on you staying in 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:44.600 the race. And so if everyone around you keeps getting paid, 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:46.720 if you stay in the race, you know what's amazing. 0:14:47.360 --> 0:14:50.240 Their advice is stay in the race. Yeah, because they 0:14:50.280 --> 0:14:54.440 want those paychecks. And so at this point, I think 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.840 they're looking forward to twenty twenty eight. I think any 0:14:56.880 --> 0:15:00.000 one of them that has an IQ in the double digit, 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.040 forget triple digits, let's just get to double in the 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.680 double digits. Recognizes Trump's won, He's going to be the nominee. 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.640 But they're thinking, now, okay, let's stick around a long time, 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:15.720 let's unify all the establishment moderate vote, and will be 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.120 the great establishment hope in twenty twenty eight. Well, look, 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.360 good luck to that again. Thirty percent doesn't beat seventy 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:27.880 percent and getting your ass kicked in South Carolina and 0:15:27.920 --> 0:15:30.360 then in Super Tuesday and state after state after state. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:36.640 That's fine. The donors may not think that. They may think, gosh, 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.120 if you lose every state, that's a great path to 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:44.960 being elected president. I guess they can think that. I 0:15:45.000 --> 0:15:49.520 don't understand the reason behind it. So if I were 0:15:49.560 --> 0:15:52.080 on Nicky's team, I'd be saying, hang it up, it's 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:56.600 time now. I'm not calling on her to do that, because, 0:15:56.600 --> 0:15:59.400 as we've talked about in this podcast, it's not my 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:04.280 role to drop out. She's got to decide. But I 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.600 think the path to victory for her is zero. Trump 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.120 is the Republican nominee. 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Senator, I want to also 0:18:12.880 --> 0:18:15.199 ask you about one of the things that Nicki Haley 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.320 said in her speech tonight, and she said it several 0:18:18.400 --> 0:18:21.359 times over the last couple of days, and that is 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.119 that America doesn't need to eighty year olds trying to 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:28.639 run this country, really turning this into an age issue. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:32.280 I think that can work with Joe Biden, but it's 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.159 not so much as age as it's a clear cognitive decline. 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.960 You don't see that from Donald Trump. You certainly didn't 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:41.800 see it on stage tonight. And this campaign schedule and 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:44.240 the way that he's out there campaigning is pretty intense. 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:47.760 When you look at her saying basically, vote for me 0:18:47.840 --> 0:18:51.200 because I'm younger and he's too old. We've seen that 0:18:51.320 --> 0:18:54.639 and it backfired and Ronald Reagan it worked his advantage. 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:56.760 Do you think this could be a major mistake? 0:18:57.119 --> 0:19:00.000 Well, as you note, Reagan, when Walter Mondale tried to 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:04.320 make that an issue against him, said listen, I'll commit 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:07.720 right now. The age issue is there, and I'm not 0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:13.240 going to use my opponent's youth and inexperience against him. 0:19:13.880 --> 0:19:16.400 And it was in the debate everyone cracked up laughing. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:19.240 Bondale cracked up laughing. It was just it was a 0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:22.280 funny line. By the way, you look at the backstories 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.280 of the debate, prep Reagan's this is an eighty four 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.320 has reelected. Reagan's team was terrified of the age question. 0:19:28.400 --> 0:19:31.240 They were worried that Reagan was too old, and Reagan 0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.800 basically told him I got this, and he did it 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:39.639 crushed the issue. Now, listen, both Joe Biden and Donald 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:45.160 Trump were older than Reagan was in eighty four. With Biden, 0:19:45.680 --> 0:19:49.399 the mental deterioration is massive, It is obvious. It is 0:19:49.440 --> 0:19:53.800 a real problem. I fully expect the Democrats to lean 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:57.679 in and make the point that Trump has mental deterioration, 0:19:58.240 --> 0:20:01.919 not because it's true, but because they're trying to protect Biden. 0:20:02.880 --> 0:20:05.160 And so I get why Nicky's doing it. Look, NICKI 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.480 is thirty years younger than Trump, so so fine making 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.119 that argument, and people are all excited. So I'm in 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:16.200 DC on Capitol Hill, the reporters were all parapatetic about 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:21.879 Oh Trump confused Nicky Haley and Nancy Pelosi. Let me 0:20:21.920 --> 0:20:25.560 tell you some reality. If you give a ton of 0:20:25.600 --> 0:20:29.480 speeches with TV cameras on you all the time, you 0:20:29.560 --> 0:20:33.439 will misspeak, you will say some dumb stuff. And I'm 0:20:33.480 --> 0:20:36.800 going to tell a story, one of the most embarrassing 0:20:36.880 --> 0:20:41.560 stories from the twenty sixteen presidential campaign. So the last 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:45.280 state that I competed in was Indiana, and as we 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:50.600 talked about on Monday, I dropped out after we lost Indiana. 0:20:51.080 --> 0:20:54.679 One of the very last campaign events we did was 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:57.879 in the gym where they filmed the movie Hoosiers. 0:20:58.600 --> 0:20:59.639 Yeah, Yeah, and. 0:21:00.000 --> 0:21:03.200 Hosiers is one of the greatest all time movies ever, 0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.160 and it may be it may be my single favorite 0:21:06.160 --> 0:21:09.240 sports movie. I like, I Love Hoosiers. Gene Hackman's a 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:12.119 phenomenal actor. It's a great movie, Dennis Hopper, it just 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:13.040 it's fantastic. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.000 And it's also, by the way, on brand with your 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:18.280 passions for people that don't realize this your your way 0:21:18.280 --> 0:21:21.520 of getting exercises playing basketball. You still play two to 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.760 three times a week every week, and that's that's what 0:21:24.800 --> 0:21:27.600 you absolutely love to do, is to play basketball. So 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.280 for you to know that, you know the the movie 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:31.880 Husers like the back of your hand. 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:34.960 I love Hoosiers. So we did this great rally in 0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:37.720 the Hoosiers gym and it's the it's the one where 0:21:37.720 --> 0:21:40.080 they filmed it the movie. So it's the one in 0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:45.439 the little town. And so there's a great scene in 0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:49.840 the movie Hoosiers where this this little little team makes 0:21:49.880 --> 0:21:53.240 it to the big state championship. The big state championship 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:58.160 is in Indianapolis, and this tiny country team is scared because, 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.399 like the team from Indianapolis, it's a big public school. 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:05.040 They're guys that are big, they're tall, they're like slam 0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:09.160