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Speaker 2: two thousand and eight for our historic presidential.
Speaker 3: Election yes week, yes wee kay.
Speaker 2: But there was another race that I was also paying
Speaker 2: attention to, and it wasn't for a politician. This is
Speaker 2: a American Idol.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about this singing competition reality show American Idol.
Speaker 2: My daughter and I watched every week. It was season seven,
Speaker 2: and we were rooting for a certain contestant.
Speaker 4: What you go saying now, I'm going to sing waiting
Speaker 4: on the World to Change by John Mayer.
Speaker 5: Go for it me. My friends were all miss Unstead.
Speaker 2: Seventeen year old David Archuleta. David instantly became a fan
Speaker 2: favorite and rose to the top throughout the competition. Gaining
Speaker 2: millions of votes, including yes, mine and my daughters. And
Speaker 2: one thing that made us root louder for David was
Speaker 2: that he had Latino Honduran roots. David made it to
Speaker 2: the finale for American Idol.
Speaker 3: The winner by twelve million votes of American Idol two
Speaker 3: thousand and eight is.
Speaker 5: David Cook.
Speaker 2: But another David won, David Archulette, that went on to
Speaker 2: build a successful music career.
Speaker 4: When the TV show happened, my family felt like we
Speaker 4: had to look good for camera and show that we
Speaker 4: were happy Mormon family.
Speaker 2: But behind the scenes, David was dealing with a whole
Speaker 2: lot of stress. His parents were having marital issues, and
Speaker 2: he had the pressure to be this model member of
Speaker 2: the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day Saints.
Speaker 4: I always felt this guilt and shame because I felt
Speaker 4: like I was had to keep something from everybody that
Speaker 4: made me not as good as what people thought of me.
Speaker 5: Oh, they think I'm a good, sweet kid, and they
Speaker 5: don't know this secret that I have.
Speaker 2: David was grappling with his sexuality in front of millions
Speaker 2: of people watching on national television.
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to be doing everything right because I have
Speaker 4: the Gospel of Jesus Christ in my life, and I
Speaker 4: have to show how happy and blessed it makes me.
Speaker 2: But instead, David felt cursed. Intimate same sex relations are
Speaker 2: considered a sin in the Mormon Church.
Speaker 4: And so I thought, I've got this demon in me
Speaker 4: that's trying to get me to go that direction, and
Speaker 4: I don't know what else I need to do to
Speaker 4: stop it. While I was also kind of terrified because
Speaker 4: I felt like if people found this out about me,
Speaker 4: they would know how dirty I was.
Speaker 2: Eighteen years later, David writes about this in his new
Speaker 2: memoir Devout, Losing My Faith to Find Myself, and a
Speaker 2: new EP by the same title.
Speaker 3: From Futuro Media.
Speaker 6: It's Latino, USA.
Speaker 3: I'm Maria Josa.
Speaker 2: Today I sit down with singer David Archuleta in a
Speaker 2: revealing conversation about growing up queer and leaving the Mormon Church. David,
Speaker 2: if you could take a moment, because there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people who don't know much about Church of
Speaker 2: Latter day Saints Mormons, can you actually talk about what
Speaker 2: church life looked like for you and your family.
Speaker 4: Growing up Mormon. It was very sweet. It's a very
Speaker 4: wholesome group of people to be around. Spend a lot
Speaker 4: of time doing gatherings like potlucks or dances, little parties.
Speaker 4: It's just very family centered with their focus. If someone
Speaker 4: was sick or someone was moving, everyone would go and help.
Speaker 4: They're very mindful of each other and if someone needed
Speaker 4: help or service, it's just what we were raised to do.
Speaker 4: Like I really loved that part of looking out for
Speaker 4: the person who may be forgotten.
Speaker 2: Thank you for describing the beauty of the Mormon church
Speaker 2: and community, which is we actually live in community. We
Speaker 2: help each other, but at the same time, there is
Speaker 2: this exclusion.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: Do you have a specific memory that you can share
Speaker 2: about when you were a little kid and you realized, Oh,
Speaker 2: I think I like boys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, gosh, let me see, I love any explout the
Speaker 4: book because there's a little moment on page twenty seven.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead.
Speaker 4: In my second grade class in Utah, there was this boy, JD.
Speaker 5: JD and I walked home together a few times.
Speaker 4: I found myself wanting to be around him more and
Speaker 4: invited him over to hang out. I felt the same
Speaker 4: butterflies for JD as I had for Brittany and Kimberly
Speaker 4: some of these other girls.
Speaker 5: I also had.
Speaker 4: Little questions on but WHOA hold up? I thought the
Speaker 4: feelings can be saying because JD was a boy, having
Speaker 4: those kinds of feelings for a boy doesn't exist, does it.
Speaker 4: I was always told boys like girls and girls like boys.
Speaker 5: Why am I feeling these feelings for JD?
Speaker 4: We're just in second grade and I started getting really
Speaker 4: scared because I was like, is there something wrong with me?
Speaker 5: You just kind of like, ah, don't pay too much
Speaker 5: attention to it.
Speaker 4: But it's like then you see JD again, and it's
Speaker 4: like you feel like all the blood rush to your
Speaker 4: cheeks and you're like, why do I like him like this?
Speaker 4: I'm thinking he's, oh, he's just my friend. But it's
Speaker 4: like I don't usually feel like this for my friends.
Speaker 4: What's going on? I'm very confused, and at the time,
Speaker 4: no one told me that that was even possible. So
Speaker 4: I was just like, Okay, I just need to hide
Speaker 4: because this is I don't want people to see that
Speaker 4: something's wrong with me.
Speaker 2: You know, you write this was so hard for me
Speaker 2: to read. At eight years old, I was living in
Speaker 2: a state of terror about being exposed. So obviously you
Speaker 2: knew this from a very young age. So let's take
Speaker 2: a moment for young people who might be listening to this,
Speaker 2: who might be queer or gay, and who might be
Speaker 2: in a very strict religion. How are you navigating your
Speaker 2: identity as a little kid when you're eight to eighteen.
Speaker 4: I didn't have the resources that I am able to
Speaker 4: have now to understand not everyone's the same and that
Speaker 4: people are different. When I was young, I thought everyone
Speaker 4: is supposed to be this way, especially like in the
Speaker 4: Mormon Church.
Speaker 5: It's like we all have to become clean and pure
Speaker 5: and obedient.
Speaker 4: And get married and have a lot of kids, create
Speaker 4: a family, and the only way to do that is
Speaker 4: to marry the opposite sex and then make children with
Speaker 4: your spouse. And so I was like, Oka, can you
Speaker 4: to do whatever I can to fit that. I got
Speaker 4: engaged several times because that's what I was told by
Speaker 4: my church leaders, like when I would open up about it,
Speaker 4: Because there were times I opened up about my Hey,
Speaker 4: I think I might be gay or I might be
Speaker 4: queer bisexual, and I'm not sure, And I just thought
Speaker 4: of it as a challenge because my church leader said, oh,
Speaker 4: you're not gay, you just struggle with same sex attraction.
Speaker 4: And there's a difference because same sex attraction. You have
Speaker 4: the feelings and you knowledge them, but you don't act
Speaker 4: on them, so there's still a chance for you to
Speaker 4: be pure and clean. But being gay means you've accepted
Speaker 4: the feelings and you allow yourself to fall in love
Speaker 4: with someone of the same sex, and that's where the
Speaker 4: sin lies. So they would say, if you get married,
Speaker 4: God will bless you and help you overcome these feelings,
Speaker 4: which is why I got engaged and almost married a
Speaker 4: few times.
Speaker 5: It was scary because I always.
Speaker 4: Thought I can't I can't allow that idea to come
Speaker 4: in my head because I'll turn gay, and that's one
Speaker 4: of the worst things I can do. I thought it
Speaker 4: was comparable to murder and pedophilia, and so I was like,
Speaker 4: I'd rather give my life than accept one of the
Speaker 4: worst crimes, you know. I said it in a prayer.
Speaker 4: God was like, in prayer, it is like, stop asking
Speaker 4: me to change you, because you've been asking for like
Speaker 4: twenty years now for me to change you, and I'm
Speaker 4: not going to because you're not supposed to change. I
Speaker 4: want you to find the beauty in life as you are,
Speaker 4: because there is beauty as you are. Even if you
Speaker 4: fall in love with a man that's okay, which I
Speaker 4: had never heard in church. I just knew it wasn't
Speaker 4: going to change who I was. And I also didn't
Speaker 4: want to live pretending, you know, like in denial, pretending
Speaker 4: that I wasn't queer.
Speaker 2: That's amazing, though, that you were spiritual enough that you
Speaker 2: could actually hear God saying I love you. I love
Speaker 2: you just the way you are. So why did you decide, Okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to write the book.
Speaker 4: I feel like I never was able to be fully
Speaker 4: honest because of the very beliefs that I was taught.
Speaker 4: The same beliefs teaching me to be honest, we're also
Speaker 4: teaching me, well, unless you are gay or queer, and
Speaker 4: I just felt like, if we're all supposed to be
Speaker 4: equal in one I feel like there's something wrong here.
Speaker 4: And so I felt like I always had to hold
Speaker 4: this part of me back. Thus I wasn't really being
Speaker 4: able to be fully honest with my audience. I was
Speaker 4: trying to get people to follow me and listen to
Speaker 4: me and watch me and saying that I was being myself,
Speaker 4: but I always had to lock this part away. So
Speaker 4: writing the book felt like, Okay, now I can just
Speaker 4: be one hundred percent honest. I can show my life
Speaker 4: wasn't perfect. So I think it's also important though, to
Speaker 4: acknowledge that God was the one who told me no,
Speaker 4: not all the answers are here. Something you need to
Speaker 4: figure out yourself. You can't rely on someone else telling
Speaker 4: you this is the right way, this is the right choice,
Speaker 4: this is the right commandment. Because I did that with
Speaker 4: my church, I did that with my dad, I did
Speaker 4: that with my managers, always looking for someone else to
Speaker 4: tell me what was the right thing to do. And
Speaker 4: it's like, well, David, how about you take responsibility and
Speaker 4: accountability for your own choices and figure out what's really
Speaker 4: the right thing.
Speaker 2: When we come back, David Archuletta opens up about his
Speaker 2: journey of self acceptance.
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Speaker 2: It's Latino Usa. I'm Maria no Hosan. I'm speaking with
Speaker 2: singer songwriter David Archuletta about navigating his sexuality as a
Speaker 2: member of the Mormon Church, all while rising to fame
Speaker 2: after almost winning American Idol. Now we're going to continue
Speaker 2: my conversation with David about life after the show and
Speaker 2: his journey to embracing his authentic self. So back to
Speaker 2: the American Idol part. You know, you become this superstar. Frankly,
Speaker 2: you're in the Spotlight. Girls including my daughter, thought, oh
Speaker 2: my god, he's so cute, and you release your first
Speaker 2: big single, which is Crush This Crush. The song blows
Speaker 2: up in the music video. You're like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: I love this girl, and you're like google the eyes
Speaker 2: to the girls in the videos. But I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a second, there are all these boys in this
Speaker 2: video without their shirts on, Like okay, David is acting
Speaker 2: like the only ones he's attracted two other girls. What
Speaker 2: do you think about when you hear that song and
Speaker 2: you see that video.
Speaker 5: I just look at it as a fun moment of
Speaker 5: time in my career.
Speaker 4: You act a lot of times in music videos, so
Speaker 4: I didn't look at it as this is a representation
Speaker 4: of my life. Even the song itself, I was just like,
Speaker 4: this is a great song. I didn't look at it
Speaker 4: as my story because it wasn't. I didn't allow myself
Speaker 4: to feel that way for people because I felt like
Speaker 4: if I let myself feel those feelings, they would come
Speaker 4: out for the wrong people, for the wrong sex.
Speaker 5: I just look back, and I do see a very
Speaker 5: like in his head. Boy. Everything he did was very calculated.
Speaker 4: Everything was thought out ahead of time to make sure
Speaker 4: that I didn't do anything wrong. But yeah, I think
Speaker 4: even at the boys, like when they're taking their shirts off,
Speaker 4: I already knew like back then, I was programmed, don't look,
Speaker 4: don't think anything, and that's your job is to be
Speaker 4: a good boy, obedient boy, not thinking anything inappropriate. So
Speaker 4: I just did everything I could to pretend like the
Speaker 4: boys weren't even there.
Speaker 2: If so, you keep releasing music, but you're still very
Speaker 2: much a part of the Mormon Church. And so in
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, you go on what all Mormons do, which
Speaker 2: is to go on a mission.
Speaker 3: You go to Chile.
Speaker 2: Actually, can you explain what the importance of a mission
Speaker 2: is in general?
Speaker 3: And then a lot happens.
Speaker 4: To you as a missionary. Your purpose is to bring
Speaker 4: other people to Christ. Do you want to baptize them
Speaker 4: into the church and have more members join? And you
Speaker 4: do acts of service, you do service projects, and just
Speaker 4: like try to be nice to everybody.
Speaker 5: Really, a lot of us have good intentions.
Speaker 4: But I also felt like, looking back, I'm like, oh man,
Speaker 4: I feel a little cringe because you're really trying to
Speaker 4: force your message convince them like, hey, you have to
Speaker 4: listen to my message and join my church. And sometimes
Speaker 4: you do it in pretty intense ways, but at the time,
Speaker 4: you know, you don't look at it as imposing on
Speaker 4: other people. You're just like, my mission is to bring
Speaker 4: people to Christ and to save them, is how you
Speaker 4: look at it.
Speaker 2: It was on this mission in Chile that David had
Speaker 2: a heart to heart with a church leader and he
Speaker 2: opened up about his sexuality. He came back home, I'm
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen after the two year mission, and that's
Speaker 2: when he came out to his family. But David kept
Speaker 2: his sexuality and identity hidden from his fans for many
Speaker 2: more years. Then in twenty twenty one, he shared his
Speaker 2: big secret.
Speaker 3: David art Letta is sharing his truth this morning about
Speaker 3: his sexuality, his faith, and where the two meet.
Speaker 2: By the next year, David left the Mormon Church. So
Speaker 2: what's your sense about in your relationship with faith, with God,
Speaker 2: with spirituality.
Speaker 4: I don't consider myself religious, but I do feel a deep.
Speaker 5: Sense of spirituality.
Speaker 4: And before it was so specific, like this is what
Speaker 4: God is, like I thought the Mormon Church had the answers.
Speaker 5: God is a man.
Speaker 4: God is married to a woman, which is why we
Speaker 4: have to get married to become like God. And I'm
Speaker 4: just like you know what I think God and spirituality.
Speaker 4: Each person experiences it uniquely in a different way. And
Speaker 4: a lot of people told me what you experienced wasn't
Speaker 4: God because he didn't answer you the way I thought
Speaker 4: he should answer you, and I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 4: then maybe I don't want to believe in the same
Speaker 4: God as you because you want God to be mad
Speaker 4: and hate me. I don't want to be a part
Speaker 4: of this. You're trying to look for a reason for
Speaker 4: God to hate me just because of who I happen
Speaker 4: to fall in love with. I believe that there's something
Speaker 4: greater that connects everybody, and that there's a source of
Speaker 4: creation of life.
Speaker 5: Is he a man? I don't know.
Speaker 4: Does he have a white beard? I don't think so.
Speaker 4: But that was what I was always taught. And I'm like,
Speaker 4: you know what, we don't have as many answers as
Speaker 4: we think we do.
Speaker 2: And after reading your book, I went to listen to
Speaker 2: the album and the album is also called Devout, and
Speaker 2: I just got to tell you. The first song I
Speaker 2: listened to was Stay, and I was like, oh my god, like,
Speaker 2: this is a suicide prevention song.
Speaker 8: Stay, Stay A promise You're not alway is gonna be
Speaker 8: this way? Stay? Stay A promise you it's gonna be
Speaker 8: alright someday.
Speaker 2: What was it like to write that song Stay?
Speaker 4: I had gotten to that point when I was out
Speaker 4: of low, when I had hit a rock bottom at
Speaker 4: my life, and so I was just thinking, if there's
Speaker 4: somebody else who may get there and feeling hopeless and
Speaker 4: feels alone and like there's nobody there who understands them,
Speaker 4: I want to write a song that helps reach them
Speaker 4: at that place. I think a lot of times, even
Speaker 4: in religion or just the way you're raised, the people
Speaker 4: a year around to tell you that you're not good
Speaker 4: enough and you'll never be enough. I wanted to let
Speaker 4: just kind of let people say, hey, like forget that
Speaker 4: that's not true. And I know that it hurts, and
Speaker 4: I know that it can feel frustrating and you can
Speaker 4: feel hopeless if you give yourself another chance to live
Speaker 4: your life just how you want instead of trying to
Speaker 4: hide and fit into someone else's What if you gave
Speaker 4: yourself a chance to live your life just as who
Speaker 4: you are and be authentically yourself and even if that's
Speaker 4: broken to just to find joy in life is what
Speaker 4: I hope people can find from it.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back, Yes, Hey, we're back.
Speaker 2: I'm going to wrap up my conversation with David Archuletta
Speaker 2: about his latest music and his memoir Devout. You write
Speaker 2: this song, you perform this song, on Purpose, where in fact,
Speaker 2: you sing about dealing with shame and accepting yourself.
Speaker 8: No, I'm not perfect, but I'm not a bad person.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to learn everything, so I have a feu
Speaker 4: urings I deserve.
Speaker 2: To make mystics on passe. Can you talk a little
Speaker 2: bit about the song on Purpose?
Speaker 5: On Purpose?
Speaker 4: I feel as has been one of my theme songs
Speaker 4: for the beginning of the year and with the book,
Speaker 4: because yeah, I'm used to feeling shame. It's just it's
Speaker 4: part of how I was raised and feeling a lot
Speaker 4: of it, and so the song is telling myself, Hey,
Speaker 4: I feel so embarrassed, like how could I have done that?
Speaker 5: Like that's so messy.
Speaker 4: But I'm like, you know what, it's okay to be messy,
Speaker 4: and it's okay to fall and to make mistakes. Before
Speaker 4: I would I was trying to avoid, like, no, I
Speaker 4: can't do anything wrong, and it's like, you know what,
Speaker 4: David be messy, make mistakes like Miss Frizzle in the
Speaker 4: Magic School Bus.
Speaker 5: She would say chance mistakes.
Speaker 4: And I loved her character because she learned so much
Speaker 4: and they went on so many adventures because she didn't
Speaker 4: let fear get in the way of preventing her from
Speaker 4: living and exploring. So you discover so much about life
Speaker 4: and learn and educate yourself, and that's I feel like
Speaker 4: that's what that song is about. Life isn't over just
Speaker 4: because you messed up. And that was something I needed
Speaker 4: to learn myself. It was very therapeutic to write the
Speaker 4: song and tell myself and manifest I'll make mistakes on purpose,
Speaker 4: even we're supposed.
Speaker 2: To love that. So I watched the video of crim Brewlay.
Speaker 6: Had a taste of.
Speaker 2: That goes out speaking Leo, I.
Speaker 3: Just want to say.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn, he's a great dancer too. The
Speaker 2: video is phenomenal. Talk just a moment about crim Breulay
Speaker 2: and what are you trying to say there with crim Bulay.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you so much. I'm not an amazing dancer,
Speaker 4: but I do love to move. It's therapeutic to me.
Speaker 4: My mom was a dancer. She danced outside and medenge
Speaker 4: vachata and like mainly South SAP. But I feel like
Speaker 4: I get a love for moving from her and it's
Speaker 4: part of the culture to love to dance. And the
Speaker 4: song krim Breulay, it was about fluidity and just showing
Speaker 4: it doesn't have to always look straight and the same.
Speaker 4: It can be flirty, it can be sexy, but it
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be too like explicit. It can be
Speaker 4: like wholesome sexy, and it has sweetness but also some
Speaker 4: savory and spicy to it. And yeah, I love getting
Speaker 4: to sing the song and be flirtatious and be playful.
Speaker 4: It's like a new side that I never showed before.
Speaker 2: What's going on for you now? Because you are out
Speaker 2: there on the road. You're doing the book tour thing,
Speaker 2: which is pretty intense because you're having to meet people,
Speaker 2: hug them, sign books. It's really intimate and personal. Are
Speaker 2: you like, oh my god, my heart is full, I'm
Speaker 2: so excited, or are you like, well, I'm just kind
Speaker 2: of living in this moment, but I can't wait to
Speaker 2: get home. Where's your heart at right now?
Speaker 5: You're giving a lot of energy to a lot of people.
Speaker 4: You're opening your heart up in a way that you
Speaker 4: normally wouldn't where it's like you're letting people step into
Speaker 4: your world and to your vulnerable and to your fragile moments,
Speaker 4: and also just your deep thoughts, like your thoughts that
Speaker 4: you don't normally bring up unless you're with a really
Speaker 4: close friend. Opening up about life, like late at night
Speaker 4: you're talking about in a book and letting people go
Speaker 4: and pick it up and read it or listen to
Speaker 4: it on audiobook and then come into a room and
Speaker 4: ask you questions about all these deep personal things or
Speaker 4: vulnerable moments, so you feel exposed. But it's also a
Speaker 4: really beautiful place to exist and let people step into
Speaker 4: so that they can have a vulnerable moment. Altogether, I
Speaker 4: think it's really cool to be able to be a
Speaker 4: gathering place where people can open up about things that
Speaker 4: they normally don't feel like they can or don't feel.
Speaker 5: Like it's appropriate to.
Speaker 4: So you can talk about things like family trauma, abuse
Speaker 4: or sexuality and having to come to terms with your
Speaker 4: beliefs and a fear of losing your faith and not
Speaker 4: knowing what comes next.
Speaker 2: Are you happy right now?
Speaker 6: David?
Speaker 5: I am. I am happy.
Speaker 4: There's always a constant challenge of how do I keep
Speaker 4: going and am I doing enough in my life? But
Speaker 4: I think I also have to say, you know what, David,
Speaker 4: stop worrying about I have to do more and more
Speaker 4: and more and just enjoy be grateful that you're here.
Speaker 4: There was a time where you didn't think you should
Speaker 4: be here, and you're here so that it's worth celebrating.
Speaker 4: You've been living and enjoying and celebrating your life that
Speaker 4: you always thought you had to hide and be ashamed
Speaker 4: of before.
Speaker 2: David, thank you so much for joining me on Latino USA.
Speaker 2: And I'm so happy to hear that you're happy.
Speaker 5: Thank you, Maria.
Speaker 2: Plus that was singer songwriter David Archuleta. His new memoir
Speaker 2: Devout Losing My Faith to Find Myself is out along
Speaker 2: with a new EP by the same name. Also Dear listener,
Speaker 2: if you or someone you know needs help, callor text
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Speaker 2: This episode was produced by Renaldo Lanos Junior, who was
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