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Speaker 1: All right news round up and information of aload hour

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Speaker 1: toll free. Here's on number. It's eight hundred and nine

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Speaker 1: a part of the program. Fifteen days until an inflection point.

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Speaker 1: I would argue for this country, two weeks from today

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Speaker 1: it'll be election, even America. I think it's the most

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Speaker 1: important tipping point election in our lifetime. One thing that

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Speaker 1: we now see as a phenomenon is that Democrats are

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Speaker 1: just freaking out at every poll. We've gone over the

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Speaker 1: poll numbers earlier in the program today, over demographic breakdowns

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Speaker 1: and how African Americans, Hispanic Americans are moving towards Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump in larger numbers than anybody thought possible. And a

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Speaker 1: lot of people forget Donald Trump's record when it comes

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Speaker 1: to minorities in America. I've gone over the economic record

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Speaker 1: more than any other. The people that benefited the most

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Speaker 1: for the first three years just prior to the pandemic

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Speaker 1: from Donald trump economic policies by far, and that's measured

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Speaker 1: by in terms of income increases, the reduction of poverty,

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Speaker 1: were African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Asian Americans women in the workplace,

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Speaker 1: and African American youth unemployment. There was never a president

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Speaker 1: that committed more money to historically black universities and colleges

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Speaker 1: than Donald J. Trump. There's never been a president that

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Speaker 1: took seriously the issue of disparate sentencing on which had

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Speaker 1: been a source of discussion in this country for decades,

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Speaker 1: than Donald Trump. And you know, I think the scene

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Speaker 1: that America probably remembers the most is our friend who

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Speaker 1: will join us in a minute. Alice Marie Johnson proud

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Speaker 1: to call her a friend to this day. And she

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Speaker 1: had a one time offense. He had been in jail

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Speaker 1: her life. And rather than becoming bitter and angry, he

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Speaker 1: that they'd never come back. But not an opportunity she

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Speaker 1: it did. Here's Kamala Harris addressing over the weekend that

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Speaker 1: there's a narrative about the kind of support we're receiving

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Speaker 1: from black men. And here's what she said.

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Speaker 2: Do you think some of the resistance of some men

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Speaker 2: see that most Americans is even even being told have

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Speaker 2: no problem supporting a woman at all. And I'm one

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Speaker 2: that lived from Shirley to Kamalo in these campaigns.

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Speaker 3: I have an emotional reaction to you raising the point

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Speaker 3: of Shirley chishm because it is on her broad shoulders

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Speaker 3: that I stand and so many of us stand, and

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Speaker 3: we have come a long way to your point.

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Speaker 1: That being said, I think that.

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Speaker 3: You are absolutely right that there is this narrative about

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Speaker 3: what kind of support we are receiving from black men

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Speaker 3: that is just not panning out in reality in terms

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Speaker 3: also say this, rev I am very clear, I must

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Speaker 3: earn earn the vote of everyone, regardless of their race

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Speaker 3: An uninformed perspective, because why would black men be any

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Speaker 1: Now, let's go back to her surrogate Barack Obama and

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Speaker 1: lecturing African American men on the issue of quote the

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Speaker 5: I'm feeding you men directly as.

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Speaker 4: A part of it makes me may fit. Well, you

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Speaker 4: just aren't feeling the idea of having a when this president,

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Speaker 4: So now you're thinking about sitting down or even supporting

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Speaker 4: somebody who has a history pedegrating you because you're thin.

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Speaker 1: That's not exciting. The Republicans are racist, They're sexist, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic,

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Speaker 1: with us. Kwame Kilpatrick is also back with us. He's

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Speaker 1: by former President Donald J. Trump. Welcome back. We appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. Alice Maria, I love you. How are you.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Sean. I'm happy to be on here again.

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Speaker 6: And you are my dear friend, my dear beloved friend,

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Speaker 6: and I'm happy to be on here and add my

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Speaker 6: voice to the voice of sense. First of all, in

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Speaker 6: case your listeners didn't know this, I'm a one hundred

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Speaker 6: sick and tired of all of the gender and racial

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Speaker 6: pandering that I'm hearing taking place. You know, Sean, they

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Speaker 6: speak of the first woman of color as president. They

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Speaker 6: speak of black men having a problem voting for a woman.

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Speaker 6: That is not the issue, it's the candidate. We don't

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Speaker 6: we'd end up with if we select Kamala Harris. The

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Speaker 1: I just want to remind people of your story. You

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Speaker 1: never thought that you had one time offender and you

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Speaker 1: got a life prison sentence.

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Speaker 6: YEA, no hope years, no hope until Donald Trump, who

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Speaker 6: actually read my story. I was denied three times under

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Speaker 6: the Obama administration. And when Donald Trump saw my case,

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Speaker 6: it wasn't the fact that it was Kim Kardashian as celebrity.

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Speaker 6: It was the fact that he looked at me as

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Speaker 6: And not only did he look at myself, but he

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Speaker 6: allowed me to bring other petitions of worthy candidates before him.

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Speaker 6: You got one one of those people on the phone

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Speaker 6: right now, and that's Kwame kill Patrick. I took his

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Speaker 6: petition before President Trump, and he did not look He

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Speaker 1: Well, Kwame's kill. Patrick. Great to have you back. We

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Speaker 1: of the mayor of Detroit. How long were you sentenced for?

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Speaker 5: Again, I was the mayor of Detroit, but before that,

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Speaker 5: I was the Democratic leader and the state Legislature in Michigan.

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Speaker 5: You know, I ran for the State House at twenty five,

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Speaker 5: interesting background. Then I got to be mayor Iran at

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Speaker 5: And then my gift, my anointing, as you will, Sean,

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Speaker 5: it took me to a place that my character integrity

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Speaker 5: I never met Donald Trump. I never had a conversation

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Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, in that meeting, I learned

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Speaker 1: Now you're broadcasting, and tell me about your life now

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Speaker 5: Well in prison, after being mad at everybody shine for

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Speaker 1: the air, he's not going to do. But the fear

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Speaker 1: mongering happens. But it's never been this bad. And it

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Speaker 1: also tells me that they've run out of arguments. And

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Speaker 1: that's their whole closing argument is Donald Trump is bad, evil, horrible,

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Speaker 1: Nazi and fascist and the racist.

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Speaker 5: You know, as Hollywood has gone, you know, the scary

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Speaker 5: movies from the nineteen sixties, like Psycho, they just weren't

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Speaker 5: as scary as Freddy Krueger and Jason and the ones.

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Speaker 5: Now they weren't as scary as those. Every four years

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Speaker 5: you got to scare people a little bit more than

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Speaker 5: you did before. And what we're seeing now is it's

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Speaker 5: just not working. It's really not working. It works if

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Speaker 5: you're targeting the sick demology of some people, but it's

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Speaker 5: not working. And that's why you're seeing people, you know,

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Speaker 5: having their own thoughts in their own mind about this

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Speaker 5: whole political process. And and I think it started when

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Speaker 5: we were there. You talked about cities. You know, the

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Speaker 5: Democrats have have all. I was a Democrat engaged in

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Speaker 5: a Democrat. The Democratic Party, Democratic president has never worked.

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Speaker 5: When I engaged George Bush, we got a new riverfront

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Speaker 5: done that we've been talking about doing for thirty years.

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Speaker 5: We got a new downtown done.

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Speaker 1: We we well, let me ask you this, did you

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Speaker 1: it was Barack Obama president when you went to jail

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Speaker 1: or no, he was president.

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Speaker 5: He sent the prosecutor in there to prosecute me. He

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Speaker 5: sent he uh okayed all of the reco allegations, and

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Speaker 5: every lawyer from California to New York, New Jersey, from

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Speaker 5: Texas all the way to Michigan. It looked at my

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Speaker 5: case said this is ridiculous. And when it got to

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Speaker 5: Alice Johnson and Jerry Kushner and the President of the

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Speaker 5: United States, they said, this is ridiculous. And you know,

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Speaker 5: the over sentence and the over uh, you know, over

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Speaker 5: everything just malicious and prosecution, which I see the President

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Speaker 5: going through himself now, And they said this is ridiculous,

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Speaker 5: and he gave me my freedom. So I think people

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Speaker 5: are tired of rhetoric. I think they're tired of people

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Speaker 5: trying to scare them. They want to hear the straight story.

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Speaker 5: When Donald Trump comes to town and he talks about

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Speaker 5: entrepreneur opportunity, he's not trying to be black. What he's

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Speaker 5: trying to do is be Donald Trump talking to you

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Speaker 5: about what I can do in my position to be

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Speaker 5: able to help you get more access to business, more

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Speaker 5: access to capital, and improve your tax structure so you

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Speaker 5: make some money. That's what black folk want to hear.

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Speaker 5: It's just like this Black America versus now. We want

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Speaker 5: to hear the same thing that you're telling them. To

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Speaker 5: know that you're saying in the suburban communities, what you're

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Speaker 5: saying the business people all over the country. And I

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Speaker 5: think Donald Trump understands that he's not changing the way

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Speaker 5: he talks. He's not trying to be cool. He's being

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump. And that's what's resonating around the country. Now,

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Speaker 5: when you get Trump, you're going to get sometimes when

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Speaker 5: he says something, Oh, that hurt a little bit, But

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Speaker 5: I think that that heals in comparison to all of

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Speaker 5: the other things that he says about doing the job

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Speaker 5: that he has to do as leader of the free world,

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Speaker 5: as president of the United States.

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Speaker 1: And you've endorsed him, have you got any any negative

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Speaker 1: feedback on that? And Alsbury? Have you got any negative feedback? Kwame,

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Speaker 1: You'll ask you first.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, yeah, you know. I was you know, I

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Speaker 5: was a big time Democrat. I was on the DNC.

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Speaker 5: So when I endorsed him, I got negative feedback from everybody,

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Speaker 5: you know, all of those tenants.

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Speaker 1: And forget about the people and the party, what about

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Speaker 1: everyday people.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: I saw President Trump with LJ in the barbershop, and

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I love the conversation, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: mean kind of barbershops are known for a lot of talking.

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Speaker 1: I know what was like that when I grew up?

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Speaker 5: Great question, because ninety six percent of the people in

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Speaker 5: the city of Detroit on paper are Democrats. But when

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Speaker 5: I'm in the barbershop every week in the city of Detroit,

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Speaker 5: what I hear is, man, you gotta do what you

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Speaker 5: gotta do. Hey, I'm leaning towards Trump too. I'm not

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Speaker 5: mad at Donald Trump. So we're able to have a

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Speaker 5: different kind of conversation away from the political ads and

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Speaker 5: the political conversations where you just talk about real people

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Speaker 5: to say it was better when he was president. I

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Speaker 5: want a president that actually is going to leave. I'm

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Speaker 5: kind of nervous about what China and Russia and North

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Speaker 5: Korea are doing. I'll mean they at the tall youle

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Speaker 5: so we hear real issues in the barbershop. You're right

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Speaker 5: about that shop.

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Speaker 6: Well, i'm the barbershop, but I travel a lot.

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Speaker 1: By the way, you're in the beauty shop where you belong.

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Speaker 1: You make us look like you know, you know. Is

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Speaker 1: there no barbershop or beauty shops that can help call

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Speaker 1: me or me no question?

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Speaker 6: Well I can tell you this. I have people come

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Speaker 6: up to me in the supermarket, in the airport, everywhere

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Speaker 6: because my face is pretty recognizable down here, and they

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Speaker 6: tell me that they are voting for Trump this time

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Speaker 6: and even even just recently. I have to tell you this,

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Speaker 6: what antidote. This guy was just pushing at the airport,

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Speaker 6: this big garbage band, just collecting the trash, and he

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Speaker 6: eased up beside me and he said, you're gonna help it.

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Speaker 6: He said, you're gonna help it because that's my guy.

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Speaker 6: He said, I didn't vote for him in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 6: and look at what I'm doing right now. He started

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Speaker 6: telling me about the job he lost and what he

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Speaker 6: had to do now because of his company had to

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Speaker 6: lay off so many people. So every day, when it

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Speaker 6: starts hitting your pocketbooks, when it starts hitting your wallet,

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Speaker 6: then you start thinking different. People are not afraid now

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Speaker 6: to say that I'm voting Trump. I've seen more Trump hats,

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Speaker 6: more Trump t shirts. People are coming out in droves,

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Speaker 6: and I think that we are going to win by

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Speaker 6: a landslide, so that it will be no doubt of

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Speaker 6: what the big that this is a big victory for us,

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Speaker 6: for US Americans. So just sayday people. They talk to me,

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Speaker 6: and I'm sure they talked to Kwami too, it's not

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Speaker 6: the talk you think. Don't believe the polls, don't believe

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Speaker 6: what they're saying that this is a big jaw for

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Speaker 6: a ride to a new to history.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's just the tactics of calling them names like this,

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Speaker 1: and it's just as low as you can go, as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, and that's why so many people

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Speaker 1: hate politics to begin with. You have a heart of gold.

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Speaker 1: The sainthood I think in your future, Alice Marie Johnson.

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Speaker 1: God bless you, Kwame. I'm so glad that you have

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Speaker 1: rebuilt your life, and congratulations on your new family. I

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Speaker 1: wish you both got speed and success, and appreciate all

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Speaker 1: the time you gave me today. We did not expect

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Speaker 1: to go as long, but I just you know, I

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Speaker 1: find your stories fascinating and I wanted people to hear

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Speaker 1: from both of you. Thank you both