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Speaker 1: Man Thursday morning, November fourteenth, twenty twenty four. It is
Speaker 1: the Beating the Book Podcast, week number eleven in the
Speaker 1: National Football League. It's Gill Ali, Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for tuning in once again to our weekly Shenanigans. As always,
Speaker 1: the staples of the show from his mom's cork attict
Speaker 1: in Squirrel Hill, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, leader in the Clubhouse with
Speaker 1: a one and a half game lead in our Picks,
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnev, star of the Showtime docuseries Action Happening, Totty you.
Speaker 2: Do, Hey, how are you good? To see you?
Speaker 1: It's very natural of you. And then Will Hill, the
Speaker 1: host of the Should Have Been More podcast, I'm available
Speaker 1: three times a week wherever you get your podcasts. And
Speaker 1: then Vson Glue, Vson Swingman, Vson Sweeper, who will be
Speaker 1: hosting the Lombardi Line Thanksgiving week?
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, absolutely, I'm excited to work with Lombardi, teach
Speaker 3: him a few things about football and entertain everybody for sure.
Speaker 1: Sure Michael will be very open to that. And then
Speaker 1: today our rotating guest. And when I say rotating guests,
Speaker 1: I already feel like I'm diminishing him because he is
Speaker 1: not like any other guest. He has been kind enough
Speaker 1: to make this an annual appearance on the podcast. I
Speaker 1: don't know what I did to deserve that, but I
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. He has covered every sport you can
Speaker 1: possibly imagine. We probably know him best in most recent
Speaker 1: generations for college football and ABC. He's of course a
Speaker 1: Vson co founder, but mainly what he's here for is
Speaker 1: the NFL and we know him as the legendary host
Speaker 1: of the NFL today so many of us who grew
Speaker 1: up on that, and he should be in the NFL
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, and we're gonna make that happen. The
Speaker 1: great Brent Musburger, Thank you, Brent.
Speaker 4: Hey gil.
Speaker 5: Hi, guys, how's everybody doing. I'm ready to get my
Speaker 5: butt cake. Let's make some pics.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. Let's do By the way, I hope
Speaker 2: you guys have seen on Twitter they have these like
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys get fed these, but
Speaker 2: you get these little like clips that'll say November fourth,
Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven, NFL Today halftime and you can watch
Speaker 2: Brent and IRV and Jimmy the Greek discussing and Brent
Speaker 2: will be there going, you know, with no there's no highlights.
Speaker 2: It's just well, the Steelers lead ten to seven, you know,
Speaker 2: because the AFC wouldn't give him the wouldn't give him
Speaker 2: the feed or whatever, you know, so Brent just tells
Speaker 2: it like nowadays you have everything and Brent just tells
Speaker 2: us what Brent Shaw had a pass for eighty two yards.
Speaker 2: It's so great and we loved it.
Speaker 1: Bren, do you have vivid memories of those of you
Speaker 1: if you see them come up? Do you in your brain?
Speaker 1: Are you like, oh, I remember that exact.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I remember so little until I
Speaker 4: see the video.
Speaker 5: You know, they did a great look back at it
Speaker 5: prior to last year's Super Bowl on CBS, and it
Speaker 5: was amazing how many things I'd forgotten as I watched
Speaker 5: them tell the story.
Speaker 4: Obviously, I remember the characters, you know.
Speaker 5: Irv Cross, whom I knew at Northwestern, was a great
Speaker 5: athlete out of Gary, Indiana. Phyllis George was the first
Speaker 5: Miss America I ever met. Okay, Jimmy the Greek I
Speaker 5: knew because I traveled traveled through When I was a
Speaker 5: baseball writer. The Chicago's American would send me late in
Speaker 5: the season to cover the Pennant Race, and the Dodgers
Speaker 5: were normally in the thick of it, so on my
Speaker 5: way to see Cofax in Drysdale, I would always stop
Speaker 5: off in Vegas, and I met the Greek, Okay, and
Speaker 5: I learned how bad a poker player I was.
Speaker 4: They busted me almost every time I sat down with him,
Speaker 4: but it was a good education.
Speaker 5: And then, of course Jane Kennedy came along when Phillis
Speaker 5: took some time off, and so I certainly remember the characters.
Speaker 4: A wonderful group of people to be with. I'll tell
Speaker 4: you that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the name of the documentary you're referencing is called
Speaker 1: You Are Looking Live, which, of course was your catchphrase
Speaker 1: when the NFL Today got on air, right from the
Speaker 1: very first seconds, Fulton County Stadium in Atlanta, three Rivers
Speaker 1: Stadium in Pittsburgh, wherever we were looking live, and it
Speaker 1: was it was wonderful. It was. It was the morning
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl. And I know, Brent, you're you're
Speaker 1: very modest and humble about this, and you don't like
Speaker 1: to talk about such things, but we will do it
Speaker 1: for you. Honestly, you deserve to be in the NFL
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame for that. I don't make the mean,
Speaker 1: don't mean to make you feel uncomfortable, but we really
Speaker 1: feel that way.
Speaker 4: I appreciate it.
Speaker 5: And I didn't get into this business to get into
Speaker 5: hale fame. I got in this business to get free
Speaker 5: tickets and watch great sporting events.
Speaker 1: Okay, well we sure do that.
Speaker 2: He personally, I think Bryan Gumble is more of a
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer than Brent, because I'm an Ans guy. No,
Speaker 2: I'm just kidding.
Speaker 5: I think the last time we played golf, I think
Speaker 5: he beat me. As a matter of fact, Oh yeah
Speaker 5: he did.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, Before we get to the picks we usually
Speaker 1: uh talk about. Well, first of all, we read our records.
Speaker 1: But then we have a couple set where are records
Speaker 1: todd ating into this week?
Speaker 2: Records are gilly, you know, hanging in there. He went
Speaker 2: one and two last week fifteen, fourteen and one. Uh, teasers,
Speaker 2: still struggling a bit at two, seven and one, you
Speaker 2: pushed your teaser. Willie has made a bit of a comeback.
Speaker 2: He's back to twelve, seventeen and one with a nice
Speaker 2: little two in one week, and his teaser was another push.
Speaker 2: So he goes to three, five and two on teasers.
Speaker 2: I go one and two to go to seventeen and thirteen.
Speaker 2: The leader in the clubhouse. I also am five and
Speaker 2: five on teasers, also doing the best out of the teasers.
Speaker 2: I will say that the guest is fourteen, fifteen and
Speaker 2: one and the teasers at six and four. So actually
Speaker 2: the guest leads and teasers at six and four. So Brent,
Speaker 2: the pressure is on that you keep the lead going
Speaker 2: for a death.
Speaker 1: That's right. And by the way, I don't know if
Speaker 1: you know this, but we don't give away free tickets here,
Speaker 1: so your dreams are not are not coming through this play.
Speaker 5: I'll take him by the way to us from today.
Speaker 2: Let's see if Bran agrees with our Dumbo of the week.
Speaker 2: This is my This is my nomination, and you guys
Speaker 2: can tell me if you agree with this. Dan Campbell
Speaker 2: is playing the Texans. There's thirty seven seconds left, there's
Speaker 2: two timeouts, he's on third down. He can run another
Speaker 2: play because he has two timeouts and get a little closer,
Speaker 2: or he can be afraid that they're going to throw
Speaker 2: an incomplete pass, so he runs the clock all the
Speaker 2: way down and kicks a fifty two yard Now, the
Speaker 2: thing he probably should have done is run the clock
Speaker 2: down to maybe sixteen seconds, then called his first time out,
Speaker 2: then run a play, then kick the field goal. In
Speaker 2: my opinion, at least he gets a little closer. But
Speaker 2: now we have this epidemic where the NFL coaches think, well,
Speaker 2: fifty two yarder, that's nothing. Everyone can hit a fifty
Speaker 2: two yarder. Might as well just have him kick it
Speaker 2: right here fifty two yards and it sneaks through for
Speaker 2: the win. Would you guys agree that that's the dumb
Speaker 2: bow of the week.
Speaker 1: I will, I will. I think you have a good nominee.
Speaker 1: I will give another nominee. This didn't come into you know,
Speaker 1: it had no consequence in the end. But I think
Speaker 1: it's worth noting that it was twenty three to twelve
Speaker 1: Dolphins in the Monday night football game. The Rams had
Speaker 1: the ball. They got it with two thirty eight left
Speaker 1: on the clock, down two scores. They get it to
Speaker 1: the Miami twenty four with ninety seconds left. You need
Speaker 1: to or is you either kicked the field goal right
Speaker 1: then and there and then pray that you can recover
Speaker 1: an on sidekick, or you go for the touchdown. What
Speaker 1: Sean McVay did was try to split the difference, or
Speaker 1: he just got confused. They didn't kick the field goal there.
Speaker 1: They got it to third and ten at the Miami
Speaker 1: twelve and without taking a shot on third down, then
Speaker 1: he kicked the field goal. Those two things don't reconcile.
Speaker 1: You either kick it at one thirty ninety seconds left
Speaker 1: or you go for it, you know, into the end zone,
Speaker 1: but you don't stop the end zone thing prematurely. Who's
Speaker 1: the who wins Dumbo of the Week Sean McVay or
Speaker 1: Dan Camp two great coaches. By the way, this is
Speaker 1: like the one week where we had great coaches nominated
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 3: I think it's minus won ten either way. By the
Speaker 3: way mcveigh's he's a great play caller. He can get
Speaker 3: a little spotty with the game management and the clock
Speaker 3: and things like that, but I think that's about a
Speaker 3: coin flip.
Speaker 5: It's fascinating how many mistakes coaches make.
Speaker 4: But for me, Lats the dumbo of.
Speaker 5: The week was whoever was in charge of instant replay
Speaker 5: in the Chargers Titans game when a fumble against Herbert
Speaker 5: was called on the field, he pitched underhand.
Speaker 4: He wasn't even coming overhand to throw the ball.
Speaker 5: Ball came out, ruled Titans touchdown on the field and overturn.
Speaker 4: Now, those of us who had seven and.
Speaker 5: A half and the Titans, we understand that you cannot
Speaker 5: turn that. Ay, there was not one view that I saw.
Speaker 5: There was definitive that Herbert was throwing a forward pass underhanded,
Speaker 5: if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I want to bet because of that I had under
Speaker 2: seven and a half Titans first, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because because we were on text at the time. Todd,
Speaker 1: if you remember, and you were so mad at Harball
Speaker 1: for just not eating the football. At that point, you're like,
Speaker 1: you're leading, You're on your own territory. Stop with this pool,
Speaker 1: with these plays remember that and then the scup and score.
Speaker 2: We've talked about this numerous times on the podcast. When
Speaker 2: you're inside your own twenty with less than twenty seconds
Speaker 2: left in the first half, what is the point of
Speaker 2: throwing the ball there? The only thing that can happen
Speaker 2: is something bad. So you complete a twelve yard past,
Speaker 2: big deal, You're still your thirty yard line. That doesn't
Speaker 2: help you. It's basically a free role for the defense
Speaker 2: to try to get a Brent Musburger touchdown on you.
Speaker 2: And that's exactly what happened. But thankfully, for the first
Speaker 2: time in my life, the refs did something good for me.
Speaker 1: I would like to add since Brent, since Brent added
Speaker 1: a replay to the Dumbo of the Week, I would
Speaker 1: like to add ESPN to that, and how they did
Speaker 1: not have anything but a shot from Sputnik of the
Speaker 1: BYU Utah defensive hole, which is grainy orbital footage of it.
Speaker 1: And until we got on social media two days later
Speaker 1: and some fan had taken a reverse angle view of it,
Speaker 1: we finally saw there was old We didn't it was
Speaker 1: a Utah for like two days. Was so pissed about
Speaker 1: this because there was no actual footage to corroborate that
Speaker 1: it was holding. I don't know well how they didn't
Speaker 1: have that, ye.
Speaker 6: Point, Brent.
Speaker 3: By the way, I'm one month in recovery of betting
Speaker 3: the Titans. I had a Titans problem early in the season.
Speaker 3: I've sworn off the Titans. I don't bet them anymore.
Speaker 3: And I think they covered one spread all year.
Speaker 6: They've been horrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you are smarter than I am, and you're right.
Speaker 5: They're a terrible team, terrible. I don't know what I
Speaker 5: was thinking of, you know what.
Speaker 1: I think they have value this week, and I don't
Speaker 1: dare play it. I'm like that that can't be a
Speaker 1: right number. I can't play it to three.
Speaker 6: It really is.
Speaker 1: It is. It's like Jason Wingard said, my model shows
Speaker 1: that the Tigers have value against the Yankees. Do I
Speaker 1: want to spend the next four hours thinking if my
Speaker 1: model is correct on this right? Uh? And then Todd
Speaker 1: the last thing before we get to Thursday n Football
Speaker 1: and our picks at any in game thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I have actually something that was real interesting last week.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if this happen to you guys,
Speaker 2: but if you make a mistake on one bet and
Speaker 2: then you don't take the other two that are really good,
Speaker 2: and you end up zher to one instead of doing one.
Speaker 2: This happened to me in that same Charger game, late
Speaker 2: early fourth quarter. The Chargers have the ball at their
Speaker 2: own five yard line, up twenty to ten, and I
Speaker 2: bet that the Cardinals the Chargers would not get in
Speaker 2: the end zone again for the rest of the game,
Speaker 2: like under two and a half touchdowns or whatever touchdowns
Speaker 2: they had at that point, and it was plus one ten.
Speaker 2: My thought process was, if the Chargers drive it out
Speaker 2: to say the forty or even drive for a field goal,
Speaker 2: by the time they ever get the ball back again,
Speaker 2: they're just going to be running the clock out and
Speaker 2: not trying to score. So, of course, the Chargers going
Speaker 2: to ninety five yard jaunt against the Titans, they go
Speaker 2: up twenty seven to ten, and I lose the bet,
Speaker 2: and I'm kicking myself because I'm such an idiot for
Speaker 2: doing it. And then the exact same thing comes up,
Speaker 2: but in a much better situation where the Eagles are
Speaker 2: are leading the Cowboys thirty one to six or thirty
Speaker 2: one to seven, and I want to bet the Eagles
Speaker 2: not to score any more touchdowns in the fourth part
Speaker 2: order because the Eagles aren't going to try to score it.
Speaker 2: In fact, they're going to put in Kenny Pickett. I
Speaker 2: don't do it because Trey Lance isn't and I'm worried
Speaker 2: about a pick six. But it was about the easiest
Speaker 2: win of all time because when an NFL team's up
Speaker 2: twenty four points, they're not trying to score. And then
Speaker 2: the even easier one. The Cardinals are winning thirty one
Speaker 2: six against the Jets, and I can bet the Cardinals
Speaker 2: no touchdowns fourth quarter minus one thirty. It's the easiest
Speaker 2: bet of all time. What do I do? Oh, I'm
Speaker 2: still pissed because I lost the Charging game. So I
Speaker 2: don't do it, and what ends up happening a perfect
Speaker 2: fourth quarter Cardinals handoff, handoff, handoff punt, handoff, handoff, handoff punt.
Speaker 2: Game is over. The mistake was, don't do that when
Speaker 2: the Chargers are only up ten. Do that on the
Speaker 2: other games when they're up twenty five, because the games
Speaker 2: that when you're up twenty five, the NFL does not
Speaker 2: want to score. The team that's winning has no interest
Speaker 2: in trying to get a touchdown with nine minutes to
Speaker 2: go in the fourth quarter, when they're up thirty one
Speaker 2: to seven. The only way they're going to score is
Speaker 2: on a pick six.
Speaker 1: The mistake is that you have a human brain, right
Speaker 1: that remembers the pain from earlier that day, earlier that game,
Speaker 1: and so we're all flawed, you know. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: If we were only robots like Stevie Feszick, then we would.
Speaker 2: But it was a mistake and still a mistake because
Speaker 2: why do it in the Charger game when it's twenty
Speaker 2: to ten, when they could still want to score touchdown?
Speaker 2: Why not just do it in the ones where they're
Speaker 2: clearly don't. Trey Lance even fumbled the ball the Eagles
Speaker 2: at his own thirty and they still didn't score touchdown.
Speaker 2: It's like nobody wants to score a touchdown winning by
Speaker 2: twenty four points in an NFL game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 2: They just want to hand off. In fact, the Eagles
Speaker 2: brought in Kenny Pickett. Do you remember him, Kenny Pickett.
Speaker 2: He's not an NFL player, he was in the game.
Speaker 1: I just I just did my fifteen, my top fifteen
Speaker 1: backup quarterback rankings in the NFL this morning. Pickett did
Speaker 1: not make the top fifty. Wow, did not make the top.
Speaker 1: There were two third stringers in the top fifteen. Picket
Speaker 1: did okay, which brings us too Thursday night football between
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Skins, as the kids call it, commodores,
Speaker 1: I mean the commanders. Does anybody here have a best
Speaker 1: bet on the Thursday night football game? I knew, Willie
Speaker 1: what you got?
Speaker 6: I like, Philly? Here are we three and a half?
Speaker 6: Are we up to four?
Speaker 1: Three and a half of it? Right?
Speaker 5: It's three and a half fan duel and it's four
Speaker 5: in ESPN, So it depends on you're looking at it.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but look at the other ones. There's a ton
Speaker 2: of fours out there too, I think.
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, oh no, you're right, it's four. Now,
Speaker 1: pardon me, it's four. Yeah, it's four.
Speaker 6: I will lay it here with Philly.
Speaker 3: I just think they are a top five runoffense and
Speaker 3: yards per carry Washington, bottom five defense against the.
Speaker 6: Run, yards per carry allowed.
Speaker 3: I just think this is a very tough environment, a
Speaker 3: tough atmosphere for a rookie quarterback to go and win.
Speaker 3: I know he played in the SEC, but Philly a
Speaker 3: night game, that crowd is going to be raucous. That
Speaker 3: crowd is going to be very well hydrated. They're going
Speaker 3: to be loud, And I just think Philly people maybe
Speaker 3: have been thrown off the scent a little bit because
Speaker 3: they finished the season last year so poorly. They started
Speaker 3: the season with that weird loss to Atlanta. Sirianni did
Speaker 3: some strange things in that game, the game against the Saints,
Speaker 3: and think it's funny to look back at these spreads.
Speaker 3: The Saints are a two and a half point favorite
Speaker 3: against the Eagles earlier in the year, which is just
Speaker 3: crazy to think about. But when you have a team
Speaker 3: with aj Brown, DeVante Smith, Goddard Barkley and Hurts his
Speaker 3: borderline top tennis quarterback, that's a hell of an offensive
Speaker 3: football team. And all of the film guys say Fangio
Speaker 3: has a great scheme, but it just takes some time
Speaker 3: to gel I think we're seeing that now. They've been
Speaker 3: dominant the last four or five weeks. Even the game
Speaker 3: against Jacksonville where they only won by five, they dominated
Speaker 3: the stats. So I don't know that Washington's on the
Speaker 3: same level now as Philly. I'm okay laying the points here.
Speaker 4: First of all, Gary, I agree to it, will.
Speaker 5: You know, I think we will spot on I think
Speaker 5: the Eagles. There's two teams besides the Lions in the
Speaker 5: NFC that I think have a chance to get to
Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, Okay, and the Eagles are one of them,
Speaker 5: all right. Obviously the forty nine Ers, you could never
Speaker 5: count them down. The McCaffrey is back, even though Ayak
Speaker 5: is out with that injury won't return. He wasn't producing
Speaker 5: that much earlier in the year anyway. But let's go
Speaker 5: back to the Eagles. When you look at what Will said,
Speaker 5: Cincinnati is the best team they've played in the last
Speaker 5: five weeks, and they put a whipping on them.
Speaker 4: Okay, they went over thirty points on him and.
Speaker 5: Held them to seventeen the Washington you know, they just
Speaker 5: they're not impressive even in the wins.
Speaker 4: And of course you know.
Speaker 5: The miracle, the miracle that the Bears have still not
Speaker 5: recovered from the Hail Mary. But other than that, the
Speaker 5: Commanders really haven't beatn elite teams in their last five
Speaker 5: if we just look at the last five games.
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't make it the bet of the week.
Speaker 5: But I certainly agree with Will and the public slightly
Speaker 5: on the Eagles side.
Speaker 4: Okay, fifty one percent. I used fan duel.
Speaker 5: I can drive down to Wyoming and bet them pretty
Speaker 5: easily down there. It's fifty one percent at FanDuel Eagles,
Speaker 5: which surprises me a little bit. But uh, maybe the
Speaker 5: three and a half that they took that that hook.
Speaker 5: That hook can make and make people a lot of
Speaker 5: money if you get it on the right side, if
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Well, Brent and Will, how dare the both of you?
Speaker 1: It's all I have to say. I am, I am
Speaker 1: no surprise here. I'm going Apoh, I'm taking Washington. What's
Speaker 1: the point is number three? I'm the official pick there.
Speaker 1: You I understand everything you guys are saying about Washington.
Speaker 1: Here's the case for Washing. Let's just start with a
Speaker 1: weird NFC East thing that has nothing to do with
Speaker 1: but that the Eagles in recent history have been awesome.
Speaker 1: They've gone to two Super Bowls, they've won one Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Washington before the arrival of Jayden Daniels hasn't been anything.
Speaker 1: And yet, for whatever reason, the Philadelphia Eagles franchise has
Speaker 1: a tremendously difficult time with Washington. I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is, but they're only eleven and eight straight up
Speaker 1: in even the best of times against Washington, and here
Speaker 1: comes yeah, here comes Jayden Daniels now, and here's the
Speaker 1: case for Washington.
Speaker 2: You're right, Brent.
Speaker 1: They haven't played, they haven't beaten anybody yet. They beat Cincinnati,
Speaker 1: best team they've beaten. They lost to Baltimore by seven.
Speaker 1: They lost to Pittsburgh by one. Could have very easily
Speaker 1: beaten Pittsburgh last week. Philly, though, as you point out,
Speaker 1: last five wins, five in a row. Now, since they'reby
Speaker 1: Cincinnati is the best team they beat. The others were Cleveland,
Speaker 1: the Giants, Jacksonville in Dallas without Dak and Cincinnati was
Speaker 1: a seventeen to seventeen game till the late third quarter,
Speaker 1: and then Philly got him turnover on downs, pick rumble
Speaker 1: and they blew them out. There's also a red zone
Speaker 1: thing where I like to play against. I like to
Speaker 1: play regression in the red zone. Washington's defense giving up
Speaker 1: seventy percent touchdowns in the red zone. That's thirtieth in
Speaker 1: the NFL, Eagles third in the NFL defensively in the
Speaker 1: red zone, tenth offensively. I'm hoping for some regression. Jalen Hurts,
Speaker 1: by the way, for as bad as the Commander's defense
Speaker 1: is in terms of its rushing defense. They're second in
Speaker 1: the league in pressure rate, fourth best league wide, and
Speaker 1: pass rush win rate. Jalen Hurts, like most quarterbacks, craters
Speaker 1: when he's under pressure. He goes from one to fourteen
Speaker 1: point five passer rating in seventy nine percent completion percentage
Speaker 1: when throwing from a clean pocket to eighty point three
Speaker 1: and fifty two percent, respectively. So I think Washington's a
Speaker 1: little underrated. You're giving me more than three. I thought
Speaker 1: this was going to be three on guessing lines on Monday.
Speaker 1: It's four. That's enough for me to make a play
Speaker 1: on the Washington Redskins, Ladies and gentlemen, three times Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champion Washington Redskins of the Joe get numb, stop, Okay.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Pittsburgh stower KG Mike Tomlin would say Yan's
Speaker 2: team ain't that good because on fourth and ninth we
Speaker 2: can talk to the refs and we can have them
Speaker 2: spot the ball property and then we get the ball game.
Speaker 2: One says, better be watching yourself. By the way, I
Speaker 2: just wanted to see, does Brent have an opinion on
Speaker 2: a game going in five minutes? Utah Valley versus North
Speaker 2: Dakota it's your part of the World League, Brent. That's
Speaker 2: not too far from you in North Dakota. And I
Speaker 2: wonder if you.
Speaker 5: Will you get to Dakota team, Baby, get on a
Speaker 5: Dakota team, all right, any of them State, South Dakota,
Speaker 5: South Dakota State. Okay, the best team over here in
Speaker 5: Montana is Montana State. The Grizzlies aren't as good as
Speaker 5: uh as they have been in the past. They're rotating quarterbacks.
Speaker 5: Montana State's pretty good, though. When we get into the tournament,
Speaker 5: keep an eye on the Bobcats. And obviously South Dakota State.
Speaker 5: They got NFL guys. I mean, that's just that's the
Speaker 5: way they've been.
Speaker 2: We're talking men's back, I'm talking football.
Speaker 4: I'm talking football, Brian.
Speaker 1: Just so you know, just so, if there was any
Speaker 1: doubt that this podcast is clearly Todd's second highest priority
Speaker 1: at this very moment, I.
Speaker 4: Could see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 4: I did not speaking a hoop though.
Speaker 5: Speaking of hoops, I asked the group, So I watched
Speaker 5: Duke because all I hear about is that flag is
Speaker 5: the second coming of Lebron James and this and this
Speaker 5: and that, and I watched the game I watched Kentucky
Speaker 5: beat him, and I say, no, he's a nice player.
Speaker 5: He probably play a long time in the in the NBA,
Speaker 5: but he should stay in school.
Speaker 4: He's not gonna turn a franchise around. Not not what
Speaker 4: I looked at. So come on, tell me, tell me,
Speaker 4: tell me, guys, what you think of Flag and Dookies.
Speaker 6: I think he's good good.
Speaker 2: I haven't seen enough.
Speaker 6: I watched the second half. I think he's gonna be good.
Speaker 6: Though it's it's very hard this early.
Speaker 1: What's interesting about you know the last three things?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: He had the two turnovers, then he didn't box out,
Speaker 1: And so if you're of a certain age, right, and
Speaker 1: you think to yourself, would Larry Joe Bird or Magic Johnson, ever,
Speaker 1: how to let that happen? And the answer is no, right,
Speaker 1: like it never would have happened to them at the
Speaker 1: end of a game. And I know it's just one
Speaker 1: game and it's not going to affect his draft status
Speaker 1: and he's probably going to be pretty good. But I
Speaker 1: kind of get what you're saying. I kind of get
Speaker 1: what you're saying.
Speaker 2: By the way I sent the guys. I was in
Speaker 2: the sports book the other night and major Harris Brand.
Speaker 2: Do you remember Major Harris from West Virginia In the
Speaker 2: college football it comes down, He comes down all the
Speaker 2: time to the Rivers and him and this guy for
Speaker 2: who's played for Georgia Tech. They get into these huge fights,
Speaker 2: and they were having this exact fight. Major said that
Speaker 2: Cooper Flag is going to be like the next Caitlan
Speaker 2: Clark Lebron James, and Boca said, like you he will see.
Speaker 2: We don't know what he's going to be. And these
Speaker 2: two they scream and yell at each other. It's the
Speaker 2: funniest thing of all time. But it's so funny that
Speaker 2: you actually said the exactly like you had. You brought
Speaker 2: up the exact thing that these two were arguing about.
Speaker 2: So I guess everyone's talking about.
Speaker 5: Major Harris was the author of one of the great upsets.
Speaker 5: West Virginia finally beat Penn State and it was some
Speaker 5: game over in West Virginia. I'll tell you that, I'll
Speaker 5: never forget that and the crowd storm in the field.
Speaker 4: And he was an athletic quarterback. I mean he could
Speaker 4: do a lot.
Speaker 5: Of things with his feet as well as his I
Speaker 5: was fun, you know, watching you brought back some memories
Speaker 5: when you mentioned him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's actually a super nice guy. He calls me
Speaker 2: the quarterback because I come up with my in game
Speaker 2: plays and I'm like, Mage, we got to go over
Speaker 2: ball state. He goes, Okay, quarterback Mage. He's the nicest guy.
Speaker 2: He really is, Mage. And all right.
Speaker 1: It brings us to our to our other best bets. Brent,
Speaker 1: you have your first best bets, sir? What do you have?
Speaker 4: Well, you know, I've looked at it.
Speaker 5: I'm going to I normally do not back a team
Speaker 5: that suffers a tough emotional loss. Okay, but I'm going
Speaker 5: to make an exception because I think the Broncos understand
Speaker 5: that they were a better team than the Chiefs despite
Speaker 5: that block field goal. They were a better football team.
Speaker 5: And they draw upkins in their home venue.
Speaker 4: And believe me, altitude can be a problem. You got
Speaker 4: a Dome team coming to the West. You're not given
Speaker 4: the three or the three and a half.
Speaker 5: I see it at two and a half, and I'm
Speaker 5: going to make the Denver Broncos my four.
Speaker 1: Star in sports. I like it. What stars do it?
Speaker 1: I can? I just jump in. That's my number two. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm with Brandy too, I have Oh we got three
Speaker 1: people on its The Death Death. I have to eat
Speaker 1: crow on bo Nicks, I didn't think when I watch
Speaker 1: college football, I didn't think bo Nicks was a pro quarterback.
Speaker 1: But Sean Payton, who I'm not a fan of either
Speaker 1: as not for football stuff, but for non football behavior
Speaker 1: or off the field behavior, just the way he handles things.
Speaker 1: He coached him up. That team is good, that team
Speaker 1: might make the playoffs. And I think Kirk Cousins is
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins, and I think this is one of these
Speaker 1: situations where he gets pressured a lot. And Kirk Cousins
Speaker 1: is one of the you know, quintessential quarterbacks where when
Speaker 1: not pressured, he's very very good. When pressured he becomes
Speaker 1: very ordinary. I'm with the I'm with you, Bret, I'm
Speaker 1: on the bron will you too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a Vikings fan, as some people know. I've
Speaker 3: watched Cousins for a while, and he's pretty predictable. When
Speaker 3: he's clean, when he's comfortable, when he's in his dome
Speaker 3: and he's not being hit, he's fine. He can spread
Speaker 3: the ball around. But you get him outdoors and you
Speaker 3: have a soft Atlanta Dome team, you're going to put
Speaker 3: them outdoors, like you said against the pass rush, a
Speaker 3: little weather here now that we've turned the calendar to
Speaker 3: the middle of November. It's just it's not going to
Speaker 3: be the same On grass. I think they say Atlanta
Speaker 3: team maybe a little fat and happy they know they can,
Speaker 3: you know, cruise to the division even if they win
Speaker 3: probably eight nine games in Denver needs the game. Denver's
Speaker 3: better than we all thought. So I'm okay laying the
Speaker 3: two and a half here. In terms of real betting,
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna bet the money line because if you've
Speaker 3: noticed the last year or so, even last last year
Speaker 3: with Ritter with the Falcons, they play a lot of
Speaker 3: weird games or their favorite or underdog by two and
Speaker 3: a half, and the game lands on one or two,
Speaker 3: like weird twenty one to twenty type games.
Speaker 6: So that does kind of worry me a little bit
Speaker 6: more than it would normally worry me with the two
Speaker 6: and a half. But I'm okay laying the here with Denver.
Speaker 1: Is it two or two and a half? Toddy?
Speaker 2: I mean I see one, two, I see mostly two
Speaker 2: and a Half's okay?
Speaker 1: All right, by the way, well I will the only
Speaker 1: thing I will disagree with I don't know that they
Speaker 1: can cruise that division Atlanta because Tampa Bay's schedule was
Speaker 1: so easy the rest of the way.
Speaker 6: They got the time breaker on I'm like going to
Speaker 6: pull up the standings.
Speaker 2: They do.
Speaker 1: They do have the time breaker because they won that
Speaker 1: game that they should never have won that first game.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and maybe the second time we swept them.
Speaker 2: Now we got by the way. You made made an
Speaker 2: accusation that my attention to the podcast will be number
Speaker 2: two and my attention to Utah Valley North Dakota will
Speaker 2: be number one. Well you're wrong. I'll tell you why
Speaker 2: you're wrong, and that's Mid Coast Sports Network is something
Speaker 2: for the Summit League. They want to charge you nine
Speaker 2: to ninety nine a month to watch the Summit League basketball.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, I'm putting my foot down right now.
Speaker 2: ESPN plus I'll pay ten ninety nine for they give
Speaker 2: you a million game. It's fantastic. I'm not paying nine
Speaker 2: ninety nine for the Summit League. Okay, you're the goddamn
Speaker 2: Summit League. A one ninety nine, maybe I would pay.
Speaker 2: I'm not paying nine to ninety nine to watch University
Speaker 2: at Denver. I'm sorry, Okay, I have to put my night.
Speaker 1: Here's come on, you had you had the same complaint
Speaker 1: last year, as I recall you were you were that
Speaker 1: is your north star, Todd wish that north start my wrong?
Speaker 1: Will not pay nine ninety nine for the Summit Brent?
Speaker 2: Am I wrong? Frent?
Speaker 5: No, You're not wrong, but don't don't you get it
Speaker 5: on ESPN plus the Summit League.
Speaker 2: The Summit League and also that dumb conference with Western
Speaker 2: connect Kentucky has, like Flow Sports. A couple of these
Speaker 2: conferences are being big fatsos and they want to get
Speaker 2: their own nine ninety nine, So their stupid conferences and
Speaker 2: it just drives me mos. Yeah, I'm not gonna watch it.
Speaker 6: I would take the sport books.
Speaker 3: Would incentivize these networks, can't they incentivize them financially to
Speaker 3: put the games where they're watchable, because the more people
Speaker 3: are gonna watch the games, the more they're going to
Speaker 3: bet them if they can watch them.
Speaker 6: I would it would be something there.
Speaker 1: Branch, you've Branch, you hosted the NFL today, You've you've
Speaker 1: done college football national championships. You you called the Doug
Speaker 1: Fluti miracle in nineteen eighty five, Where does hearing Todd
Speaker 1: wishnev scream about nine ninety nine Summit League subscriptions. Rank
Speaker 1: in your career highlights? Where would you put this?
Speaker 4: Well today it's number one.
Speaker 1: I would answer.
Speaker 2: But he agreed with me. Yo, he agreed with me
Speaker 2: that that is larceny. That is larceny. Anyways, here's my
Speaker 2: first pick. My first pick is the uh, what do
Speaker 2: you have for the total in the Charger Bengal game?
Speaker 1: Which way do you want to bet it?
Speaker 2: Yep, I don't know.
Speaker 1: See forty seven and a half, forty seven and a half.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go under forty seven and a half in
Speaker 2: the Charger Bengal game. To me, the Chargers are the
Speaker 2: better team and the team that tends to take control
Speaker 2: of the tempo of a football game. John Harbaugh, not
Speaker 2: John Harborough, the other Harbaugh has decided he's going to
Speaker 2: run the football, and he's going to play defense, and
Speaker 2: he's gonna play like AFC North football, even though he's
Speaker 2: on an A on the Chargers. Right, he's the Charger coach. Right,
Speaker 2: he's gonna play Jim.
Speaker 1: I think it's smool. Harball, I think is what it is.
Speaker 1: I don't Harbor.
Speaker 2: I think his real name is Jim. But anyways, Jim
Speaker 2: Harbaugh has decided he's going to play tough, hard nose,
Speaker 2: old style, smash mouth football. Hand the ball off. Now,
Speaker 2: granted he has one of the greatest quarterbacks. That Herbert
Speaker 2: guy throws it. We all know throws the most beautiful ball.
Speaker 2: He's also great when throwing underhand, forehand, you know, forward
Speaker 2: at the end of halves. We know that as well.
Speaker 2: By the way, Brent, I don't know if you saw,
Speaker 2: but they were talking about the reason he was able
Speaker 2: to make that throw without fumbling was because he picks
Speaker 2: up bricks in the summer. They have some kind of
Speaker 2: like brick thing where they do like things to strengthen
Speaker 2: his hand so he doesn't fumble the ball, which I
Speaker 2: thought was very interesting. But anyways, obviously we love Herbert.
Speaker 2: They're going to run the ball. They're not going to
Speaker 2: play shootout football with Cincinnati. Cincinnati's defense is terrible. Run
Speaker 2: the ball at them, slow the game down like they
Speaker 2: love to do. Under forty seven and a half.
Speaker 1: All right, I've already given to so will your second.
Speaker 2: I will argue about too, too, Brent, Philly.
Speaker 3: Brent, Yeah, I will point out that they're battically drying
Speaker 3: up that Herbert is just you know, some stat pattern
Speaker 3: and he's not any good and he's a losing player,
Speaker 3: which I think was starting to get out there because there, look,
Speaker 3: you get the right coach, you start to win some games.
Speaker 6: But I've already heard that too.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have many still go it's Brentstern.
Speaker 2: Now it's Brent.
Speaker 1: Brent. Brent gets too here.
Speaker 5: I'm going to go with the public over a eighty
Speaker 5: percent around the country, the Bears are in deep, deep
Speaker 5: trouble the Packers.
Speaker 4: I've got it at five and a half. I'm going
Speaker 4: to give the five and a half.
Speaker 5: I think the Packers will bounce after the rest going
Speaker 5: to the Windy City. I'm really disappointed in the lack
Speaker 5: of progress shown by Caleb Williams. I thought he would
Speaker 5: be more effective, but I don't think the Bears offensive
Speaker 5: line can block anybody.
Speaker 4: That right tackle should not have been In the NFL.
Speaker 5: You can get a quarterback sack nine times in a game.
Speaker 5: You get a horrible line. So I'm going to go
Speaker 5: ahead and give the five and a half. Even though
Speaker 5: Jordan Love not the best decision maker I've watched, he
Speaker 5: seems to have progressed in that area. I'm going to
Speaker 5: go ahead and back the Packers.
Speaker 1: Brent in the in the pie chart of who's to
Speaker 1: blame in Chicago coaching offensive line, Caleb, what are your percentages?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm going to go with eighty seventy five percent
Speaker 5: at least of the offensive line, and that I think
Speaker 5: reflects on the whoever the line coaches.
Speaker 4: I don't even I don't even know who it is.
Speaker 5: I know that I've watched the Raiders, who I thought
Speaker 5: had a decent decent wasn't good, but it was a
Speaker 5: decent offensive line, and it is completely deteriorated. I think
Speaker 5: the most underrated position coach in the National Football League
Speaker 5: are your offensive line coaches.
Speaker 4: When you look around the look.
Speaker 5: At I would check who is coaching the Detroit Lions
Speaker 5: offensive line, for example, that's that's as good as it
Speaker 5: gets now. Obviously they've got some good talent there at
Speaker 5: the tackle spots in particular. But I would blame the
Speaker 5: coaches and the offensive line more than I would Caleb.
Speaker 4: I'd like to see, Caleb.
Speaker 5: You know, it's interesting in today's NFL, I would be
Speaker 5: inclined to hire offensive coaches rather than defensive coaches.
Speaker 4: If you look at.
Speaker 5: Rams forty nine ers, teams have moved the football. They
Speaker 5: seem to have guys in charge that are from the
Speaker 5: offensive side of the ball. And obviously defense is important,
Speaker 5: but the league stresses offense so much, and the Bears
Speaker 5: one coach. I would look at hard as a head
Speaker 5: coach next year. As the offensive coordinator of the Lions.
Speaker 5: Now that we're speaking about him, he's done an unbelievable job.
Speaker 5: Anytime you can come back from a quarterback who throws
Speaker 5: five interceptions and won a football game. Obviously, he's got
Speaker 5: two really good running backs that he could lean on.
Speaker 5: But I would finger the coaching staff kill of the
Speaker 5: Bears as much as anybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben Johnson is the Lions offensive coordinator. He they
Speaker 1: flew him to d C with the Redskins with the
Speaker 1: army of the Commodore's vacancy last year head coaching vacancy,
Speaker 1: and the word was he just decided. He said, I'd
Speaker 1: rather prefer to stay as the offensive coordinator of the Lions.
Speaker 1: The buzz was that he thought that the the new
Speaker 1: Josh Harris administration, which also includes Bob Myers from the Warriors,
Speaker 1: he thought they were too BASKETBALLI and that they were
Speaker 1: a little they thought they knew a little too much
Speaker 1: about the football when they really didn't. So he stayed
Speaker 1: for whatever reason. That's I don't know if that's true,
Speaker 1: but that's the rumor that that was his reaction. Yea,
Speaker 1: so he stayed for Detroit. Bret, I think you get
Speaker 1: a third here. You got another one. Final bet, well
Speaker 1: final bet, because.
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a recreational guy. You know, I bet
Speaker 5: pizzas and things like that.
Speaker 4: So I want to have a fun bet for tonight.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm going to go to my Wyoming fan duel people,
Speaker 5: and there are four players going tonight for the Eagles
Speaker 5: and the Commanders.
Speaker 4: Who have combined for twenty eight touchdowns.
Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take plus two thousand, three hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty one and back Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts, Terry McLaurin,
Speaker 5: and Jayden Daniels to all score anytime touchdowns. And if
Speaker 5: I bet half a pizzat my ten bucks, I get seven.
Speaker 4: Hundred and.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, I get two hundred and thirty
Speaker 5: five dollars.
Speaker 4: That's that's my mask, Okay, Brent.
Speaker 1: That is a that is a fun bend but I
Speaker 1: must go to the Megapod statutes, and Todd wishnev will
Speaker 1: read from the Torah of the Megapod and what is it?
Speaker 2: State Todd, I believe this is in both the Old
Speaker 2: Testament and the New Testament. It states all Megapod participants
Speaker 2: must have three regular picks. They can give fun picks
Speaker 2: on the side, but they must have three regular picks
Speaker 2: of either a point spread or a total, and if not,
Speaker 2: the penalty is punishable by stony.
Speaker 4: I apologize, here's my third pick. Okay.
Speaker 5: In a regular season, you always bet the Bills to
Speaker 5: beat the Chiefs, and the playoffs you always bet the
Speaker 5: Chiefs to beat the Bills. So what do we got?
Speaker 5: We got one and a half or two and a half.
Speaker 5: The Bills are going to I'll take the Bills to
Speaker 5: hand the Chiefs their first set loss of the season.
Speaker 4: It's not enough stream bessage. So first loss season.
Speaker 1: Three tremendous matchups this weekend, Philly and Washington tonight Thursday
Speaker 1: Night Football, that of course Baltimore and Pittsburgh on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and then that one that Brentches talked about, Buffalo and
Speaker 1: Kansas City. You imagine that if the Chiefs somehow win
Speaker 1: this game. What are we gonna think about the Bills
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs after that? We're just gonna be like
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are invincible and Buffalo will never get over them.
Speaker 1: Is that what the narrative is going to be?
Speaker 2: How far do you have to drive to get to
Speaker 2: Wyoming to be at Sandel Yeah, good question.
Speaker 4: Uh, let's see get to the hotel three and a
Speaker 4: half hours.
Speaker 2: Oh, you have to drive that far to Wyoming. Oh
Speaker 2: my gosh, you are Have you.
Speaker 4: Ever been to Jackson, Wyoming than a wintertime? My friend?
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I don't know if you know your
Speaker 1: American geography, Todd, but those are big states out there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I didn't really. Maybe Brent was like
Speaker 2: on the border or something, and that's why he was
Speaker 2: talking about going to Wyoming. But I guess I guess
Speaker 2: he's far away. I'm pulling up my maps right now.
Speaker 2: That Wow, it's far wow. Anyways, Okay, so it's my
Speaker 2: turn for my second pick. I'm gonna go with I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go down to a little place we like to
Speaker 2: call Akrashuer Stadium Yunser Time Yuensertian, Pennsylvania, where a little
Speaker 2: club named the Pittsburgh Stores are going done and they're
Speaker 2: gonna kick some butt against the Baltimore Ravens. Let me
Speaker 2: tell you this, anytime the line has been three or
Speaker 2: higher in this matchup, I believe I second these guys
Speaker 2: this thing in the Twitter zone the other day. I
Speaker 2: use that Twitter machine and I sent it down air
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna give you the exact numbers of exactly
Speaker 2: what the records are. But anytime in the in the
Speaker 2: last Harbaugh, how long has John Harbaugh been don Air
Speaker 2: in Baltimore. It's been a long time since two thousand
Speaker 2: and eight. Favorites of three or more in the Ravens
Speaker 2: Store game are two, eighteen and three. Harball himself was
Speaker 2: favored by at least a field goal against Pittsburgh is
Speaker 2: ten and two. These are not good number. This is
Speaker 2: telling you ins that these when you when these two
Speaker 2: teams play, throw at everything. Because we're gonna have a knockdown,
Speaker 2: drag out fight and it's going to be a tight one.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Pittsburg Stealers because look, we got
Speaker 2: Russell Wilson. He can throw the moon ball, we can
Speaker 2: run the football. The Ravens don't have much of a defense.
Speaker 2: And now you're telling me you're giving us three at
Speaker 2: Actor sure with the parking prices of one hundred dollars
Speaker 2: South Parking, that's crazy. Give me plus three.
Speaker 1: I want to say, I'm.
Speaker 4: Not going to feel good. I want to make him
Speaker 4: feel good.
Speaker 5: Gil Lamar Jackson is one in three against the Steelers, okay,
Speaker 5: and that loan victory was his first start against them
Speaker 5: back in twenty nineteen. Now against the other two teams
Speaker 5: in the division, Bengals and Browns, Lamar Jackson is seventeen
Speaker 5: and five.
Speaker 4: Let me tell you something on the right track.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not usually a trends guy, Todd, but what
Speaker 1: was that two in eighteen? What was that? The record
Speaker 1: is favorite.
Speaker 2: Since Harbaugh got to Baltimore in two thousand and eight,
Speaker 2: favorites of three or more in the Raven Steelers game, meaning,
Speaker 2: no matter who's favored by three or more, don't take
Speaker 2: the favorite because the favorites are two eighteen and three.
Speaker 2: Harbaugh himself, when favored by at least a field goal
Speaker 2: against Pittsburgh is oh ten and two. It's unbelievable because
Speaker 2: every Pittsburgh Raven game is like every other Pittsburgh Raven game.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be seventeen sixteen in the last minute, and
Speaker 2: it's gonna come down to the end like it always does.
Speaker 2: So you're gonna give me three points at akersher It's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I think I am contractually obligated to mention that
Speaker 1: if Mike Tomlin wins this game, the streak has continued
Speaker 1: for another year where he will not have a losing season.
Speaker 1: Is at worse, they will be eight eight and one
Speaker 1: at that point there it is. Season win total was
Speaker 1: eight and a half before the season start.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 1: It was much to the chagrin of many of us
Speaker 1: who have the under well and thunders. Yes, Brent raising
Speaker 1: his hand as well, will you're.
Speaker 2: Don't you realize this is a football time. This is
Speaker 2: a football time. I know we've got the Pengins in
Speaker 2: the parts, but this is a football time.
Speaker 3: Okay, what do we have for a total willing game?
Speaker 3: I'm seeing some forty and a half. I'm seeing some
Speaker 3: forty eight the jersey.
Speaker 1: Uh, let's see it is forty eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Gilly, you're I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's me?
Speaker 2: Is that me? We've got some sounds from somebody.
Speaker 1: I hear some sound that.
Speaker 5: No, No, it's my my yard people showed up at
Speaker 5: the wrong time.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's the yard people.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna under forty eight and a half.
Speaker 3: For all the reasons you guys mentioned, this game is
Speaker 3: usually close, it's usually low scoring. For some reason, I
Speaker 3: had him, I had. This game is always twenty to seventeen.
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the series history. Now none of the
Speaker 3: games are actually twenty to seventeen, but it's a lot
Speaker 3: of nineteen sixteen, nineteen thirteen, twenty to nineteen, nineteen fourteen.
Speaker 3: So these games are close. These games are low scoring.
Speaker 3: It is still pretty high total for a year in
Speaker 3: the NFL, where it's hard to get to fifty points.
Speaker 3: And I know Baltimore is an overteam, but like Brent said,
Speaker 3: Lamar in his career four touchdowns against the Steelers, seven interceptions,
Speaker 3: zero rushing touchdowns tom and for whatever reason, his defenses
Speaker 3: have held Lamar in check. I think Lamar is an
Speaker 3: odd player with the more you see him, the more
Speaker 3: you get used to defending him, the better chance you have.
Speaker 3: I think Baltimore, I know the stats aren't good defensively,
Speaker 3: but they've played some really good offenses. They've played homes
Speaker 3: and now and and you just go down the line
Speaker 3: Burrow twice. I think this since this Baltimore defense is
Speaker 3: not as bad as some of the numbers indicate, so
Speaker 3: I look for another typical, you know, twenty three to
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seventeen type of.
Speaker 2: A half.
Speaker 1: I think it's the best rivalry in the NFL. Right,
Speaker 1: Baltimore Pittsburgh best rivalry.
Speaker 6: I would say Chiefs Bills as currently.
Speaker 1: Really wow bred.
Speaker 6: Just because they had no game if in the playoffs
Speaker 6: a lot. I don't know.
Speaker 1: You might be right, you might be right. It could
Speaker 1: be that Bill's Chiefs certainly well that that will have
Speaker 1: a chapter this weekend. Also, I'll tell you what it
Speaker 1: isn't anymore. It isn't Redskins Cowboys anymore. That's for sure.
Speaker 1: By the way, Brent has because we don't have the
Speaker 1: visual on this, Brent has gotten up and he is
Speaker 1: I think physically assaulting the yard person. I believe that's
Speaker 1: what's happening.
Speaker 6: We'll have to tell the trial now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Todd, you got one more. I got one more.
Speaker 1: Who's first?
Speaker 6: You can go first?
Speaker 2: Good?
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 1: This has nothing to do with any kind of analysis
Speaker 1: other than when I was doing other that other than
Speaker 1: when I was doing guessing lines on Money Day. I
Speaker 1: just couldn't understand this number. Uh, it's new I thought
Speaker 1: New Orleans would be a three point favorite over the Browns,
Speaker 1: and instead it's one.
Speaker 2: I believe what is it?
Speaker 1: Right now? New Orleans is a one point favorite over
Speaker 1: the Browns. I think I have or know them.
Speaker 2: I have the Browns minus.
Speaker 1: One, the Browns minus one, might be even Browns minus one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm taking a Saint.
Speaker 1: Okay, give me a pick, because I'm taking the Saints,
Speaker 1: and I just don't get it. I don't really understand
Speaker 1: what the Browns have done to deserve that kind of
Speaker 1: respect in the market. So I'm taking the Saints. Saints
Speaker 1: are my play out of your last one, and we're
Speaker 1: done with it, and we'll go to the final.
Speaker 6: Twelve eleven Dakota. By the way, up, somebody.
Speaker 4: Who paid the nine bucks?
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: Wa wait before I do my last pick, I'm hearing something.
Speaker 2: It's coming in very clearly. Oh yes, here it is
Speaker 2: Atlanta Falcons Denver Broncos. The Denver Broncos lead at twenty
Speaker 2: one to twelve late in the ball game. Here, we've
Speaker 2: got Kirk Cousins driving down to try to get the
Speaker 2: back door touchdown. For those of you in Vegas, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Cousins rolls to the right, he
Speaker 2: throws to beij On, the balls tipped in the air.
Speaker 6: White Beageon comes down with it.
Speaker 2: Bejon Robinson has it. It's gonna be twenty one nineteen
Speaker 2: in Denver. Does not cover.
Speaker 1: Holy cow, somebody get him a respirator.
Speaker 3: By the way, Nope, po never gives up, never calls
Speaker 3: the extra point. You always it's just always a seven
Speaker 3: point touchdown in these scenarios for some reason.
Speaker 1: Right, it's right, Wait a minute, wait a minute, it's
Speaker 1: not all I wish. I wish we had the visual
Speaker 1: because Todd puts his hand up to his ear like
Speaker 1: it's nineteen thirty five.
Speaker 2: Because the ball was tipped on that one. So it
Speaker 2: was hard to know whether I love when like there's
Speaker 2: a when there's a touchdown, the local radio makes the
Speaker 2: call and they're not sure whether it's a touchdown, and
Speaker 2: like the cover, the color guy's screaming he has yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, like that's fantastic. Anyways, my last pick, I'm
Speaker 2: gonna go with the under forty two in the Houston
Speaker 2: Texans playing the Dallas Cowgirls. The Houston Texans to me
Speaker 2: are a great under team. Why they can't balk so
Speaker 2: their offense is crappy, but they do play some defense.
Speaker 2: They played a hell of a defensive game against the
Speaker 2: Lions the other night. Five interceptions really really stout on defense.
Speaker 2: The defense to me, was the reason they were even
Speaker 2: in the game. And so I think there's no reason
Speaker 2: why they won't be able to completely shut down this
Speaker 2: anemic Cooper Rush Dallas Cowboys or whoever they're going to play.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're gonna play Trey Lance or
Speaker 2: whoever the Cowboys are going to play. It's going to
Speaker 2: be ugly and they're not going to be able to
Speaker 2: move the ball in the Texans. And on the other side,
Speaker 2: the Texans don't really move the ball. So this this
Speaker 2: screams to me, thirty one to seven Texans, you know
Speaker 2: it's just going to be a low scoring game, under
Speaker 2: forty two in that game for me.
Speaker 1: Oh, Cooper Rush, by the way, did not make my
Speaker 1: top fifteen, either of backup quarterbacks. Would you like to
Speaker 1: hear my top fifteen? Thought you'd never ask. Ready, here
Speaker 1: we go. Fifteen is a third stringer, Josh Dobbs of
Speaker 1: the Niners fourteen Mac Jones of the Jaguars, thirteen Drew
Speaker 1: Locke of the Giants. C. J. Bethard Is twelve, the
Speaker 1: third stringer for the Jaguars, comes ahead of McNown eleven
Speaker 1: Taylor Heinek gave the Charger, ten Malik Willis of the Packers,
Speaker 1: nine Marcus Mariotto the Commanders, eight Mitch Trubisky of the Bills,
Speaker 1: seven Tarrod Taylor of the Jets, six Justin Fields of
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Five Jacobe Prisett of the Patriots, four Joe
Speaker 1: Flacco of the Colts, three Jake Browning of the Bengals,
Speaker 1: two Jimmy Garoppolo of the Rams, and one Andy Dolton
Speaker 1: of the Band. Those are your fifteen.
Speaker 2: I'm sure Brent would would would argue with those numbers.
Speaker 5: May Garoppolo overrated Gil, You overrated Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: I might have Reese. It's more of a body of
Speaker 1: work with Jimmy g then, plus he got to play
Speaker 1: with Niners and all that. You could be very you
Speaker 1: could very well be right, all right. Before we get
Speaker 1: to the final two questions. Teaser of the week, Brent
Speaker 1: the guest chair is in the lead, no pressure.
Speaker 4: None whatsoever.
Speaker 5: It's a six point right two tamer, yes, sir, right, okay,
Speaker 5: all right, Well, obviously I'm gonna take the Steelers up
Speaker 5: to nine, and even though I'm picking the Bills, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna take the Chiefs up to eight.
Speaker 2: And a half.
Speaker 1: And that would be my two team Steelers Chiefs. That's
Speaker 1: a good one, Steelership. What's that? Eight and a half?
Speaker 1: Eight and a half?
Speaker 6: Time?
Speaker 2: No, See, the Steeler line is three, so he's getting nine.
Speaker 1: Nine and eight and a half.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's gonna be a tough teaser to beat.
Speaker 3: Did I push my last because all of the wongs
Speaker 3: got home last week? All of the one and a
Speaker 3: half to seven and a half the wongs they weren't
Speaker 3: good great and are good early in the year, they
Speaker 3: were great last week.
Speaker 2: Will you had Chiefs minus two and the Cards plus
Speaker 2: seven and a half, that's why.
Speaker 3: And it closed seven and a half or whatever or seven.
Speaker 3: So in real life it got home if you bet
Speaker 3: it Sunday. But that's one of those ones. It depends
Speaker 3: when where you bet it.
Speaker 2: It me or is it todd It's uh, it's it's
Speaker 2: my turn on the teaser. I'm gonna go also with
Speaker 2: Brent here on the Chiefs plus eight and a half.
Speaker 2: I just don't see how you're gonna beat Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 2: by more than eight and a half points. I just don't.
Speaker 2: I don't know how anyone's gonna do it, even the Bills,
Speaker 2: who are you know, outstanding on offense, I just don't
Speaker 2: see how they're gonna do it. And then on my
Speaker 2: other one, I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins. Miami Dolphins,
Speaker 2: our coach twitters three bands all day, but we're playing
Speaker 2: the Raiders, so we're gonna win anyway. Miami Dolphins. Miest one.
Speaker 1: Was that? Was that any way? Your way of saying,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't think of any more lyrics?
Speaker 2: I just mad. No, it had to rhyme with any
Speaker 2: He wears three pants every day, so it had the
Speaker 2: rhyme anyway, you get it?
Speaker 6: Got it?
Speaker 1: Got it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: This term aspreciated.
Speaker 3: Really, I am going to add the Chiefs as well,
Speaker 3: and I will use the Cincinnati Bengals off a mini
Speaker 3: by desperate spot.
Speaker 6: They tend to play close games.
Speaker 3: I don't think the Chargers are going to blow them
Speaker 3: out up, even if they're down ten late I can
Speaker 3: get the back door with Burrow Chargers Chiefs two team teaser.
Speaker 2: So you're getting.
Speaker 6: It's one now.
Speaker 3: See, Brent, every week they pull this ship on me.
Speaker 3: Every single week they conspire and they just try to give.
Speaker 6: Me the long line.
Speaker 1: You make the call Cincinnati Bengals is one.
Speaker 6: Sorry, I respect both of your decision. I'll take the seven,
Speaker 6: that's fine.
Speaker 1: I am going to take the San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: ers in the Great Brock Party, tease them down. You
Speaker 1: basically have to win their game against the Seahawks, and
Speaker 1: I'm going to pair them with the Kansas City Omaha Chiefs.
Speaker 1: Remember the Kansas City No?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, it goes way better.
Speaker 2: I do know way back Gilly is playing against against Seattle,
Speaker 2: I mean for Seattle. Just in case you were wondering,
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 1: I am aware of that. I am aware of that
Speaker 1: San Francisco Kansas City for me, Which brings us to
Speaker 1: the final two questions of each and every megapod ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. First question is which of the big favorites
Speaker 1: do you believe is the most likely to lose? Outright,
Speaker 1: which are the big favorites is the most likely to lose? Outright.
Speaker 1: Your choices this week are the Miami Dolphins seven point
Speaker 1: favorites hosting the Raiders, the Lions two touchdown favorites, fourteen
Speaker 1: point favorites hosting the Jacksonville jag Wires, the Niners six
Speaker 1: and a half point favorites hosting the Seahawks, and of course,
Speaker 1: the Monday Night the Hughes in Texans seven and a
Speaker 1: half point road favorites against the Cowboys. Which of those
Speaker 1: four teams? Brent? The four teams? Once again? What's that right?
Speaker 4: I got them?
Speaker 5: I got There's only one team you can go to
Speaker 5: and you can go against forty nine ers.
Speaker 4: Is Metcalf going for the Seahawks?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes he is.
Speaker 4: Metcalf is going. That would the Seattle Seattle is a
Speaker 4: pick of those four teams.
Speaker 1: Hey, Niners, one vote for Niners, Toddy.
Speaker 2: I agree with Brent. I think if Gino can get
Speaker 2: it going with Metcalf, they theoretically could upset. I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not thinking they will, but that's the one I
Speaker 2: think is most likely.
Speaker 6: Willie generally agree with you, guys. I'll be a little different.
Speaker 3: I'll say, Houston, they're on the road, Dallas coming off
Speaker 3: an awful performance. You know stroud in the Texans, it
Speaker 3: hasn't looked great. They've been outscored on the year. I
Speaker 3: think everybody came into this year and oh they could
Speaker 3: make then athleet be a super Bowl contender. I don't
Speaker 3: think there are any sort of Super Bowl contender. They're
Speaker 3: just lucky they're in the right vision Strouded's regrest, so
Speaker 3: maybe they maybe they turned the ball over, you'll have
Speaker 3: a flat spot here and Dallas plays up and steals
Speaker 3: the game somehow.
Speaker 2: What's Bret, what's been Brent's experience a killy with with Brent?
Speaker 2: What's your experience been with Jarah? With Jared Jones? What's
Speaker 2: your opinion on the absolute mouth seasons? Yeah, the Dallas Boys.
Speaker 4: He's a great guy, great guy to be around.
Speaker 5: Should should have stepped down as general manager, you know
Speaker 5: years ago. He's uh, he's a wonderful person. And listen,
Speaker 5: the Raiders would not be in Las Vegas without Jerry Jones. Okay,
Speaker 5: Jerry loves to come into Las Vegas have a weekend
Speaker 5: with his buddies up there. He always did come into
Speaker 5: town and he was the one who saw that there
Speaker 5: could be a future for a professional football team in
Speaker 5: the City of Las Vegas. Mark Davis would not have
Speaker 5: been able to get the other owner to agree without
Speaker 5: Jerry's leadership. So I can't say any of the good
Speaker 5: things about him, but I can't say any of the
Speaker 5: bad things about him as a general manager right now, Okay,
Speaker 5: I wish he had I wish he had just turned
Speaker 5: it over to somebody. You know, maybe somebody like a
Speaker 5: Jason Garrett can be a general manager. A pretty smart dude.
Speaker 5: I like listening to him.
Speaker 4: But he was with Jerry for about a decade.
Speaker 5: Down there, some smart guy who just has a little
Speaker 5: more insight. Yeah, of course, Jerry played at Arkansas Jimmy
Speaker 5: Johnson of those guys quite a few years ago. He
Speaker 5: should not be the general manager. It's too bad. Obviously
Speaker 5: McCarthy's going to be out at the end of the year.
Speaker 5: Jerry is smart enough not to change coaches in midseason's
Speaker 5: that's always an invitation to disaster.
Speaker 4: And we'll go from there.
Speaker 5: But I want to repeat when when you're around Jerry
Speaker 5: or you're talking to him, he never talks past you.
Speaker 5: I never looks beyond you. He's really a good guy
Speaker 5: and a bad general manager.
Speaker 1: Do you do you think Brent that he would be
Speaker 1: an inspired choice for Secretary of Housing and Urban Development.
Speaker 1: You think that would be as.
Speaker 4: He and Trump would would get along.
Speaker 5: I mean, but Jerry would have to abandon Chris Christy first.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying, You'd have to tell a
Speaker 5: fat one you're no longer a cowboy fan.
Speaker 1: And that's a good point, very good, by the way.
Speaker 1: My answer that question, as much as I want to
Speaker 1: pick the Dolphins or the Texans, it's probably the Niners.
Speaker 1: Niners most likely the big favorites to lose out right.
Speaker 1: And then the final question, Let's say we live in
Speaker 1: a bizarro world where we had to bet a side
Speaker 1: on every one of these week eleven games, but we
Speaker 1: were allowed one free pass, one game that you could
Speaker 1: pass on, which, Brent, is the game that you would
Speaker 1: want no part of when it comes to betting on
Speaker 1: a side.
Speaker 4: I take the Chiefs and the Bills. You know, yeah,
Speaker 4: you know the Bills.
Speaker 5: The Bills have played well, got them at home, you know,
Speaker 5: nine and oh.
Speaker 4: I understand nine and oh is nine and oh, but
Speaker 4: they've been very lucky.
Speaker 5: The chief says that that's the one game I just
Speaker 5: sit back and watch it and not take a side.
Speaker 5: But but what I do in the contests and with
Speaker 5: people everything, I pick out the five best games of
Speaker 5: the week or the ones I'm going to watch, and
Speaker 5: those are the ones I'm going to bet. Uh, you
Speaker 5: know I I just don't like to bet trash, and
Speaker 5: so that's that's how I do it.
Speaker 1: I wonder how many people played those the five games
Speaker 1: they'll be the most paying attention to them. I wonder
Speaker 1: it's probably a bigger percentage than we We're really close
Speaker 1: to this a lot. Yeah, I bet it's a higher PA.
Speaker 5: You know your commanders are in a Thursday night game.
Speaker 5: I want to say one thing about the league. The
Speaker 5: Thursday night schedule has been much better, much better, uh
Speaker 5: this year, and they they're doing a very smart thing
Speaker 5: about picking a division game, okay, because he was going
Speaker 5: to get good competition with the with those division games
Speaker 5: like that, and UH, Sunday Night football hasn't been quite
Speaker 5: as good. I'm sure NBC is complaining. I think they
Speaker 5: flexed the end of this one this week. As I recall,
Speaker 5: the league overrated the New York Jets when the when
Speaker 5: they brought the brought the schedule out. I think they
Speaker 5: were pulling for New York eyeballs, and they were hoping
Speaker 5: for the best. I think the problem there is that
Speaker 5: people just didn't remember how poorly Aaron Rodgers played in
Speaker 5: the conclusion of his Green Bay career. I believe his
Speaker 5: last game. They were playing Detroit and it was the
Speaker 5: last week of the season. The Lions had been knocked
Speaker 5: out of the playoffs, as I recall earlier in the
Speaker 5: day by the Seahawks with a win. So the Lions
Speaker 5: had nothing to play for and they came in there
Speaker 5: and they knocked the Packers out of the playoffs. And
Speaker 5: Rogers did not look good that night. You know, you
Speaker 5: get the other side of forty when you're a quarterback.
Speaker 5: Tom Brady obviously the exception down in Tampa. But you know,
Speaker 5: it's the cliche. Father time remains undefeated. Wide receivers over
Speaker 5: thirty I would start to move out. I think they deteriorate.
Speaker 5: It's just the way it is. But otherwise, like tomorrow,
Speaker 5: the reason why CBS on Sunday has the Chiefs and
Speaker 5: the Bills is because they have to have the Chiefs
Speaker 5: and the Bills in so many games. It's part of
Speaker 5: their contract during the season. There's nothing in competition with it.
Speaker 5: They've got the full country in their doubleheader game on Sunday,
Speaker 5: and that's quick for fans. That'll be a great game
Speaker 5: to watch, great game to bet, have have some fun with.
Speaker 4: If you're a recreational guy, so you know, so be.
Speaker 5: But I think that the negative thing about the league
Speaker 5: right now, it's how many bad teams there are.
Speaker 1: That's that's the story.
Speaker 5: I just and I just, you know, we we thought
Speaker 5: the Panthers were Now a lot of teams have joined them.
Speaker 5: My Raiders have joined them. They are bad Titans. We've
Speaker 5: talked about them earlier. It's it's a shame. The Jaguars
Speaker 5: have gone to the wrong, wrong direction. I the Colts.
Speaker 5: The Colts to me, made a horror indous mistake when
Speaker 5: they put all their chips on the table for Richardson.
Speaker 5: He was not ready to come out of Florida. He's
Speaker 5: a youngster who should have been told to stay in school.
Speaker 5: And the one good thing about paining college football players
Speaker 5: today is you're going to see the quarterbacks stick around longer.
Speaker 4: And that's going to be good eventually for the NFL.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at bo Nicks.
Speaker 5: I don't think any as thought he was going to
Speaker 5: be as good as he's turned out to be. But
Speaker 5: but he played, and he had a lot of college
Speaker 5: games under his belt, and so anyway, I didn't make
Speaker 5: it wander off.
Speaker 4: It'll never never land.
Speaker 1: But no, I think I think it's interesting. It's also
Speaker 1: it's also going to be interesting in basketball too, where
Speaker 1: you have guys that now are you know, it manifests
Speaker 1: itself in so many different ways, guys that are borderline
Speaker 1: NBA players who are like you, who are opting to
Speaker 1: stick around longer with n I L R. And so
Speaker 1: it's just it will have an interesting effect on both sports.
Speaker 1: That's an interesting point about quarterbacks and the long term,
Speaker 1: you know, prognosis of young quarterbacks that finally do enter
Speaker 1: the league. Because you're right, I don't think we're being
Speaker 1: prisoner of the moment. There are more bad teams this
Speaker 1: year than I seem to ever remember, and that is
Speaker 1: ultimately bad for the league because what you end up
Speaker 1: having is we have three great games on paper this weekend.
Speaker 1: Most weeks we don't have these kind of three matchups, right,
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of games. Remember that that the
Speaker 1: the late window last week was awful, horrible, right, Like
Speaker 1: it was just terrible football.
Speaker 4: It was terrible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so it's uh, it is a problem for
Speaker 1: the league currently. And you're right about guys like Richardson,
Speaker 1: but you know how it is. They get drafted now,
Speaker 1: there's no there's no holding the clipboard for three years, right,
Speaker 1: They just get thrust in there because of their They
Speaker 1: got to find out who they have, and the Colts
Speaker 1: have made the decision to find out who they have
Speaker 1: now that they're back to four and six. Will your
Speaker 1: choice or Todd your choice for a game you want
Speaker 1: no part of I don't.
Speaker 2: Really want the Jets Colts game at all. I have
Speaker 2: no idea what I get Joe Flacco from week to week.
Speaker 2: Sometimes he's okay, sometimes he's throwing them all the other.
Speaker 1: Team the Jets did Anthony Richardson though, Oh it's.
Speaker 2: Anthony okay, Well, same thing. I mean Anthony richards and
Speaker 2: who the hell is at and and uh, I mean
Speaker 2: we know that you didn't get anything from Anthony richards
Speaker 2: and he's not good either, and then and then you
Speaker 2: get you know, the Jets, and what I have no
Speaker 2: idea which Jets are going to show up. I mean,
Speaker 2: like like Brant was saying, I think Rogers has seen
Speaker 2: his better days. And uh, I just don't want any
Speaker 2: part of that.
Speaker 1: I think that's my choice too. By the way, Colts Jets,
Speaker 1: and I do think that the Jets, you know, Brenna
Speaker 1: is right. I think Tom Brady in many ways spoiled
Speaker 1: our perception or spoiled the markets perception of what is
Speaker 1: possible after the age of forty. But I think the
Speaker 1: Jets are are week after week the most overrated team
Speaker 1: in the betting market. Yet this week I'm so I
Speaker 1: have such a question mark on the Colts that I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Todd. I want to part that Jets. Willie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Colts were actually almost one of my picks. I
Speaker 3: think if we have to do four, Colts would have
Speaker 3: been the fourth one. Rams, Patriots.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 6: Are the Rams good?
Speaker 2: Are they?
Speaker 3: Do they stink? Are the Patriots actually okay? Or do
Speaker 3: they actually stink? I have no field for les Patriots.
Speaker 6: That's that's what I don't want.
Speaker 1: But that's what we're talking about, right, Games like that
Speaker 1: that like league. I don't remember the League having so
Speaker 1: many crap games like that where you're like, oh, whatever,
Speaker 1: and whatever happens won't surprise me, you know, gentlemen, Thank
Speaker 1: you both. Thank you all, I should say, Brent, always
Speaker 1: a pleasure. The Great Brent Musburger from his home in Montana. Brent,
Speaker 1: I love that you are still willing and able to
Speaker 1: come on the show. And despite despite Todd singing Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins theme you know theme song, we appreciate.
Speaker 5: I hope I don't spoil the one lost record of
Speaker 5: the guests.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Hey.
Speaker 1: What pressure to?
Speaker 4: What's the basketball score?
Speaker 2: Come on?
Speaker 4: What's going on on my head?
Speaker 2: We need an updated and from live from the Summit
Speaker 2: League action. It's the North Dakota twenty seven, the Utah
Speaker 2: twenty nine, Utah Valley twenty five, and what really has
Speaker 2: turned out have to be a surprising ball game as
Speaker 2: Utah Valley was favored. Go figure. I'm throwing it back
Speaker 2: to in the studio.
Speaker 5: Utah Vlley Mormons love to play basketball. Never forget that.
Speaker 1: Oh Mad, Brent, Thank you, Toddy, thank you, Will, thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you for everybody. Good luck with all your bets
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