1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: And now move the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 2: Hey, welcome, everybody, move the sticks here our first episode 3 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: on the field. Here at the NFL Scouting Conline, getting 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 2: ready for day two. But looking back to what we 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,880 Speaker 2: saw on day one, I guess if there was one 6 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 2: word to describe what we saw, Red Lewis, Bucky Brooks 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: here with you, Bucky, the word is fast. The word 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: is explosive. Take your pick, because well, I tell you what. 9 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: The Ohio State Buckeyes let the mark here. 10 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:36,239 Speaker 3: Oh look, I will say this and one of the 11 00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: things about this event is it shouldn't sway or influence 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 3: the way that you feel about a player as you 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 3: confirm some of those things. But the Buckeyes Reese styles, 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 3: it makes you want to go back and say, hey, man, 15 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 3: are we giving them just do as top five players 16 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 3: potentially Reese. We've talked about a ton. There are questions 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 3: about the what's the best position for you? But I 18 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 3: will say this, when you have a guy who has 19 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 3: sixty four, two hundred and forty one pounds who are 20 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 3: other four to four to six, who's an A plus athlete, explosive, 21 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 3: a smooth mover, you can see and envision him being 22 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 3: an off ball linebacker while recognizing what he can bring 23 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 3: off the edge. What he put on display really makes 24 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,320 Speaker 3: it easy to talk about him being number one. 25 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: Two three coming off the board. 26 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: I mean, it's like the superlatives are pretty incredible when 27 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: you're talking about Sunny Styles, in particular fastest forty yard 28 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: dash that was tied with his buddy rvel Reaves, and 29 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 2: the fact that both those guys lined up together at 30 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: times for two hundred and seventy three snaps. Rvel rees 31 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 2: was lined up next to Sunny Styles as an off 32 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: the ball backer and then he spent over three hundred 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 2: as an edge rusher. But for sonny four four six 34 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 2: and two hundred and forty four pounds vertical forty three 35 00:01:55,440 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: and a half two and a half inches higher than 36 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: any other player in that group, any other player yesterday. 37 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 2: And then the broad jump at ten feet excuse me, 38 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: eleven feet two inches. We have not seen a player 39 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: that big achieve numbers that impressive. Yeah, it's the most 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: impressive combine performance athletically I've ever seen. 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: Okay, so here's how this plays out. 42 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 3: When you're a coach and you're looking at that so 43 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: let's think about Fred Warner. Fed one is one of 44 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 3: our supersized linebackers. In the middle of a defense, you 45 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:33,360 Speaker 3: play zone. So now you got these tall trees imagine 46 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 3: basketball two three. 47 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: Zone, you're throwing over it. 48 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 3: So now the length, the vertical ability says you have 49 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: to throw over these guys, tips and overthrows and all 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 3: of that. Sunny Styles gives you that presence in the middle, 51 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:47,920 Speaker 3: but he also gives you a. 52 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 1: Dynamic player one five, six, ten. 53 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 3: Split time, so being able to track down running backs 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: in space, being able to do a bunch of different things. 55 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 3: Some have said you can move them out and will 56 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 3: linebacker and put them in the slot sometimes in those 57 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 3: these defenses. This athletic display changes the narrative that you 58 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 3: have with him in draft. 59 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: Meeting rooms because the tape is terrific. 60 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 3: But now you're talking about this athlete, you begin to 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 3: talk about what more can we do. 62 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: With them if we bring him in the building. 63 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, no question. 64 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I think you're gonna see you shoot. You 65 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 2: might see him both off in the top five. Rvel 66 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 2: Reese in Sonny in Sonny styles, right, I mean. 67 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 3: I mean, if we're talking about best players available and 68 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: you're sticking to that. 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: Premise position, right, that's right important to take take take 70 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 1: old position or value and all that. 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 3: If we're just talking about best players, stack him up 72 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: like we're in the backyard getting ready for a game 73 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 3: or tag. There's no way that you can't include these guys. 74 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: You have to include Reese and you have to talk 75 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 3: about salves just because of what they can bring to 76 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: the table as athletes. To me, it's an easy evaal 77 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 3: because the tape is good and then the athleticism really 78 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 3: is jaw dropping. 79 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, in RVL, Reese obviously is probably has a 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: better shot at top five at this point just because 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 2: of the thought that he's an edge rusher. 82 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. 83 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: But now with Stiles, so let's talk about the natural 84 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: landing spots seven Washington Commanders. Because you talked about eventually 85 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 3: we got to find out of your placement for Bobby Wagner. 86 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 3: You think about some of these other spots, Hey, do 87 00:04:16,800 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: you want to say so sitting there at eight Davarian Davis, 88 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 3: how long can he play? 89 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: You can get two for one with them. But to me, 90 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: he submitted. 91 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 3: Himself as a top ten player because Cincinnati Bengals also 92 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: could use another inside linebacker that can make things happen. 93 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: To me, it's the lock that he's going within the 94 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 3: top ten for Reese, is that conversation in debate because 95 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 3: we're talking about David Bailey, what are we going to 96 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 3: do with him? But he's in the mix as one 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 3: of the best players in the draft. 98 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 2: Sure a couple other linebackers just to close the book 99 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: on that group that I thought we kind of saw 100 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 2: out from Anthony Hill from Texas. 101 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: So in the run up to the draft, we don't 102 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: run up to the combat. We don't have a chance 103 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:03,719 Speaker 3: to talk about everybody, but Anthony Hill is intriguing, big, fast, physical. 104 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: We raved about sunny styles one five six, ten times 105 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: one five eight. 106 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 3: Anthony Hill Junior four one thirty seven in is vertical 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 3: ten and a half. The tape shows that he's at playmaker, 108 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: can do a bunch of different things. 109 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: Anthony Hill Junior from. 110 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: Texas helped himself because he put the spotlight on his afterstices. 111 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Jake Golde from Tennessee or excuse me from Cincinnati was 112 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: an intriguing one. It kind of started to build a 113 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: little bit of buzz coming into this event as a 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: guy who might test well, you know he ends up, 115 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 2: you know, going four six, two, one, five five in 116 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 2: the ten thirty nine inch ver and again ten foot 117 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: five inch block. I think again we're seeing some of 118 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 2: these crazy numbers with the jumps. That's a Those are 119 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 2: good numbers for a linebacker, but they also tell the 120 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 2: story of explosion right your your ability there on that front. 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: Absolutely long time ago, sitting here in Indianapolis with Ozzi, 122 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 3: he knew from Hall of Fame exactly if you talked 123 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,840 Speaker 3: about the jumps and the forty time correlate someone that jumps, 124 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 3: hug and jumps far, they're gonna run pretty fast. Well, 125 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: then gold Day physical player. Ever, remember he has played 126 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: defensive end throughout his career. He is someone that made 127 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 3: the transition from defensive end to the linebacker. He brings 128 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 3: that versatility in presence because he's so explosive. 129 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 1: Man. 130 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 3: You begin to think about all these teams that are 131 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 3: staying with base personnel but. 132 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: Asking their guys to play multiple roles. 133 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 3: Gold Days display of athleticism helps him as look and 134 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: talking to Todd Bowles, he talked about being impressed with 135 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: the inside linebackers. Gold days versatility and athleticism will help him. 136 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 2: We'll draft in another one That is an interesting debate 137 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 2: here at the Combine because of the size is Kyle 138 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 2: Lewis you actually have him as a safety on your board. 139 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 1: That's because he. 140 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,919 Speaker 2: Checks in at about five foot eleven two and twenty pounds, 141 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 2: which of all the linebackers here at the Combine, he 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 2: did work out with the linebackers that's the lightest along 143 00:06:57,200 --> 00:06:59,760 Speaker 2: with Torre and York from Texas A and M both. 144 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 4: Checked in two hundred and twenty pounds. 145 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 2: What do you need to see from a player like 146 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 2: that to know that he can hold up at the 147 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 2: next level at that frame. 148 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: So because I had him listen at safety in my 149 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 3: mind and I haven't got that, and I do this 150 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: in the next time we do a top five, I'm 151 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 3: thinking the star position as very popular in college. A 152 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 3: guy that kind of plays in the slot, half safety, 153 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 3: half will linebacker, because we're seeing so many teams use 154 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 3: these three safety looks. To me, cal Lewis slots perfectly 155 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: in that role. George in the twenty pounds, you mentioned 156 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: the explosiveness and when he displayed you saw him at 157 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 3: the Senior Bowl. 158 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: You watch more. 159 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 3: Tape at pitt This is a natural playmaker. I don't 160 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 3: know what position we put under his tag. But I 161 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 3: know he's a really good football player who's a great athlete. 162 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: There's a role than a way for him to get 163 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: on the field and make plays. 164 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean again, you mentioned it Inmobile, like he 165 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: was just around the football all the time, and. 166 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 4: I mean I get it. 167 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 2: You know, he's going to be going up against some 168 00:07:59,280 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 2: bigger guys and some you know, more experienced guy and like. 169 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 2: But that was the best of the best at Mobile 170 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Speaker 2: and he did not look out of place playing at 171 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: the second level in that game. 172 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 4: So or in that practice week. 173 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 2: Another linebacker that has some interesting numbers, not necessarily testing numbers, 174 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 2: all of those are intriguing. Two but literal measurements. Eric 175 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: Gentry from USC. 176 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, six foot six. 177 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 4: And five eight inches. 178 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: That's over six foot. 179 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 4: Six and a half. 180 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then he goes with thirty five inch arms 181 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 2: in a whopping eighty six in a quarter inch wingspan. 182 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 2: That's like a pterodactyl. Yeah, what a length at the 183 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: linebacker spot. Now he's a little bit lighter too, but 184 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 2: length at the linebacker spot. 185 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:46,280 Speaker 4: How does that play? 186 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 3: So we talked about we talked about the Syracuse two 187 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: three zone in basketball and how when you got those 188 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 3: long guys with the wingspan, how the deflections and those 189 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: things play out when the same thing is true when 190 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 3: you play zone defense. 191 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: In the National Football League. 192 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 3: The longer play, they create tips, they force overthrows because 193 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 3: of their presence on the perimeter. 194 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: He is someone that has. 195 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: That and when you look at him move around and 196 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 3: create chaos. We think about the packages, the sub packages 197 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 3: where you can get guys like that. 198 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: On the field. 199 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 3: He helps himself just because of the length and the 200 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 3: deflections that he can eventually create. 201 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's move to the defensive tackles, who were the 202 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 2: first group actually on the field, And I thought, there's 203 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 2: some interesting numbers that our folks at NFL Research compiled. 204 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 2: Dante Corleone from Cincinnati was the shortest player at just 205 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 2: over six feet and the heaviest player. 206 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:42,479 Speaker 1: That's like don Terry Pope. 207 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 4: Yeah all over again, yeah, forty pounds, the. 208 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 3: Fire hydrant, Yeah, no, fire hydrot being able to move 209 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 3: around and do something. 210 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: Squatty body. 211 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: But then we saw, you know, a guy like Caleb Banks, 212 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 2: almost eleven inch hands, he's. 213 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: All the way up there at just over six foot. 214 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: Five, uh, and ran a terrific tie terrific forty yard dash. 215 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 2: Caleb Banks was was excellent. I'll pull up his numbers here, 216 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: but how does date cut short? But again, when you 217 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 2: go through the measurements for Kleb Banks, fiveh five was 218 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,720 Speaker 2: his first run five to one three officially at five 219 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 2: oh four one seven six in the ten right, and 220 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 2: then you know you talk about what he what he 221 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 2: jumped thirty two in the vert and again checks in 222 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 2: at with an eighty five inch wingspan, three hundred and 223 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: twenty seven pounds and six foot six in a quarter 224 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: like we only saw him for three games this year. Yes, 225 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: day cut short here, but is that enough to tantalyze 226 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: the nflal E saluation community? 227 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, because what happens is, uh, there are some teams 228 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 3: that lean towards the tools and traits. 229 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: And when you rattle off those those. 230 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: Those traits sixty six, three hundred twenty seven pounds, yeah, 231 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 3: thirty five inch arm, then he runs at five oh 232 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 3: four the verticals thirty two. So there's explosiveness there. You 233 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: turn on the tape in twenty twenty four, the flashes 234 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 3: stand out freak athlete, explosive to me, first round lock 235 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 3: you can lock him in. 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 4: And first round locked. 237 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 3: I think you lock him in because there's this point 238 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: where you have the Chicago Bears, the Houston Texans, teams 239 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 3: that need defensive tackles. 240 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: It's hard to find guys with those. 241 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 3: Kinds of dimensions, and he has enough flashes of dominance 242 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 3: that's gonna be hard to bypass. 243 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 2: Texans at twenty eight. An interesting spot down there. You know, 244 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 2: you think of the Browns at twenty four, Bears at 245 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 2: twenty five, as you're talking about all teams that could 246 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 2: have a little bit of interest on that front. The 247 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: next guy not nearly as big as Caleb Banks, but 248 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: you want to talk about big time impact out here 249 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 2: on the field in the testing, Zane Durant from Penn State. 250 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: I've got him highlighted here again. The six foot one, 251 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: two hundred and ninety pounds, so on the lighter side 252 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 2: of the defensive tackles, but he runs a four to 253 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 2: seven to five official fastest time of any of the 254 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: d tackles. 255 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 4: His split on the ten was one six six. 256 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 2: That's lightning for a guy that's two hundred and ninety pounds, 257 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 2: and then thirty three and a half in the vert 258 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 2: He goes nine foot four in the broad he is 259 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: a penetrating defensive tackle that it wants to live in 260 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 2: the backfield. 261 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 4: I think you know. 262 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: The downside is when an offensive lineman gets a whold. 263 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 4: Of him, he can be moved. 264 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: But man, when you can't get your I mean when 265 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 2: he's penetrating, that's when he's at his best. 266 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: So we always talking about the most important and part 267 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: of the evaluation is fit in scheme and to me, 268 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: where he goes matters. He is an upfield penetrator. He's 269 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: someone who you want to play on the move. His 270 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 3: speed and explosiveness is real in a movement based defense 271 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: where you're doing stunts in games and movement, he's gonna 272 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: have a chance to play on the angle. 273 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: Was the explosiveness is real. The athleticism and. 274 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,679 Speaker 3: Agility you love, really helped himself with the way that 275 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 3: he performed. 276 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is from his defensive coordinator last year, Jim 277 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 2: nolesond with defensive tackles, actually make tackles instead of just 278 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: eating space. It changes the way you can play defense. 279 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: Zane is that guy also called him the most respected 280 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 2: guy on the Penn State defense and you notice that 281 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 2: right away. 282 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: So that's a pretty dang impressive. 283 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: I thought demonte KPE part from Clemson was an interesting 284 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 2: one because we talked so much about Peter Woods and 285 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: t J. Parker from Clemson KPE Part four eighty five 286 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 2: forty yard dash at six foot four and some change 287 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: at three hundred and thirteen pounds. That was the fastest 288 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,000 Speaker 2: forty yard dash of anybody over three hundred and ten pounds. 289 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,600 Speaker 4: And I thought he actually he sunk his hips well 290 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: when he was going through the bags. 291 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 2: You know, taller guys, that's all those are harder drills, right, 292 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: because you know you have a tendency to stay too high. 293 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: But he's an interesting one here. Again. 294 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 2: It was a guy that you know, and they want 295 00:14:00,400 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 2: to talk about him as like a zero nos you know, 296 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:04,000 Speaker 2: who could flash a little bit. And I think he 297 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 2: showed you know, some maybe some scheme versatility here to 298 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 2: be a player with some impact potential. 299 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 300 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 3: The athleticism really is impressive. Yeah, And what we're thinking 301 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 3: about is we're thinking about these guys outside of the 302 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 3: first round. Day two's Day three, guys that can move 303 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: around and find a role that catches that I have 304 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 3: of a coach. Then you go back and you talk 305 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 3: about talk to your scouts, what's going on. 306 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: We've had a crew of Clemson. 307 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 3: Guys who, for whatever reason their final season did perform well. Okay, 308 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: So separating what went on last year from what could 309 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 3: be based on the athletic traits, it changes the conversation 310 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: a little bit in those meeting rooms. 311 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Lee Hunter, I thought did his thing as well. 312 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 2: I mean, like we always some moments of the broadcast 313 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: when he was just making faces at the camera the 314 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: whole time, which was hilario. 315 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 4: He is a character. He is a central figure. 316 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 2: In the Texas Tech run through the college football Playoff. 317 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 4: I thought he. 318 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: Dominated again in that Oregon game. They didn't come out 319 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 2: on the victorious in that one, but played really well. 320 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 2: He and David Bailey teaming up in that game to 321 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: wreak absolute havoc on the organ Ducks offensive line. David 322 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 2: Bailey left an incredible impression in his final collegiate game 323 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: and picked that up right here, blazing down the turf 324 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: at four five oh, which look, if you count Rvel 325 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:22,440 Speaker 2: Reese as an indrust or a linebacker, you know, if 326 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: you keep him in the linebacker group, Baileyan's up at 327 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 2: the best time of the day. 328 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, four or five zero, really impressive. Thirty five inch 329 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 3: vertical ten nine broad jump. I'll say this because I 330 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 3: was probably the logown David Bailey coming into the combine, 331 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: just because I thought there was some stiffness to his game. 332 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: Thought there was a little robotic stuff sometimes when I 333 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 3: would see safe and then you go back and you 334 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 3: watch like the spin move and stuff just got all 335 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 3: got it. It reminds me of when I used to 336 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 3: look at Dwight Freeney when he was coming out of Syracuse. 337 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: He was like, man, is that going to work in 338 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: the pros consistently? 339 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: And oh, by the way, he becomes a gold jacket guy. 340 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 3: David Bailey, it was important for me to watch him 341 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 3: go through the bags. 342 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: It was important for me to see him move around. 343 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 1: So now I can cross through maybe some. 344 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 3: Of those notes that I had in my notebook talking 345 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 3: about a really impressive play. 346 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: But let me say this about him. 347 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, Reese styles at a time when some guys elect 348 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 3: to stand on whatever their tape is. Yeah, the most 349 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: impressive part of what they did is they competed and 350 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 3: competing here, putting their talents on display. Man that might 351 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 3: earn more kudos in meeting rooms than what he actually 352 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: did throughout the course of the day. 353 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, look, no question, I thought. 354 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: Also in the edge rusher group than I, Dennis Sutton 355 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: had some great jumps. He had at two hundred and 356 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: fifty six pounds, went thirty nine and a half on 357 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 2: the vert ten foot eleven in the broad jump. That 358 00:16:50,040 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: broad was the best among defensive linemen yesterday. 359 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 4: Also ran fast at four sixty three. 360 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 2: He was a player that maybe had a little stiffness 361 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 2: to his game, but again showed you the explosiveness that's 362 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: out there for him and can capitalize on that going 363 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 2: into the league. 364 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 4: Any other edge rushers, I got one for you. 365 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 3: Like this is where we talk about guys that are 366 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 3: kind of seemingly come. 367 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 1: Out of nowhere. 368 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 5: Remember the name Malaki Lawrence, oh baby from Central Florida. 369 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 5: And the reason why you want to remember the name 370 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,400 Speaker 5: is he put down an impressive performance at the combine, 371 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 5: but he has tape to back it up. Six four 372 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 5: two fifty three, thirty three inch arms, thirty three to 373 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: five base four point five two forty times for forty 374 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 5: inch vertical ten ten broad jump. And there are times 375 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,360 Speaker 5: in the meeting rooms we talk about HWS prospect heightweight, 376 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 5: speed prospect. To me, when I look at Malakay Lawrence, 377 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:44,960 Speaker 5: who has twenty sacks. 378 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: In his career three forced fumbles. 379 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, reminds me a lot of Josh Schweat, who played 380 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 3: for the Eagles, was a part of their Super Bowl champion. 381 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: Day two, Will we. 382 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 3: Gin and throw Dart said, gosh, we have the traits 383 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 3: Malachi Lawrence. 384 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, might go earlier. 385 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 3: Did people envision because of what he did here at 386 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,360 Speaker 3: Indy and what he's also done throughout his four years 387 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 3: at Central Flawda. 388 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one, man. Those are some good 389 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 2: names to follow there, you know. Then there were some 390 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 2: names again that guys that didn't participate. Peter Woods, I did, 391 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: Zion Young who we're talking about now in the back 392 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 2: end of the first round from Missouri didn't run through 393 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: the testing. But I mean we had an incredible performance here. 394 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: I mean I did want to talk briefly because I 395 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 2: was looking at some of the bench press numbers now too. 396 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 2: My guy gave Akis did not test in the drug, 397 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: but he put up thirty reps in the bench press. 398 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 3: That's a lot man like people won't talk about. They're 399 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 3: talking about, well, how does that matter? Just to strength 400 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 3: endurance and when you factored what you saw on tape. 401 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:52,280 Speaker 3: One on tape energize with buddy effort, player with great power. 402 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 3: So when I see that, I'm like, okay, I dig it. 403 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 3: Now his pro day, we'll get a chance to see 404 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 3: what numbers he puts up or whatever. But the tape 405 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: is really good, and then events first will certainly opens. 406 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 2: A bye like we did at the like we did 407 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 2: with the linebackers. There were some measurements that we're intriguing 408 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: with the defensive line group, and Ruben Bain and Cashus 409 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: Howell represented maybe two of the most intriguing, not necessarily 410 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 2: on the positive side, but it. 411 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 4: Was the arm length. 412 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 2: And for ruben Bain, the arm length is thirty and 413 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 2: seven eighths inches. Now we can go back and there 414 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,439 Speaker 2: is some data that will tell you as an edge rusher, 415 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: sub thirty one inch arms track record isn't necessarily outstanding. 416 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:33,479 Speaker 4: But his tape is. 417 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, tape is. 418 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 2: And I haven't seen the arms be a problem for 419 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:38,600 Speaker 2: him yet. 420 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but now it can be problematic because you're talking 421 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 3: about the best of the best at the National Football 422 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 3: League level. How those long arm tackles deal with him. 423 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 3: So it will lead you to falls a little bit. Yeah, 424 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,360 Speaker 3: you'll wonder, Okay, how does that play out? 425 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: Now? The thing that cash is. 426 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 3: How has gone for him fastest? 427 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: Ten times those versus when you look at one five 428 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: eight one five eight, he was at the top. 429 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 3: So first step quickness in burse saw that on tape 430 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: at Texas A and M. 431 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: Sack production stood out. 432 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 3: He is going to have to win in terms of 433 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: with finesse and movement because of the arm length. But 434 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 3: when you talk about being able to track how explosive 435 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,760 Speaker 3: he is in those first ten yards, it matches with 436 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 3: what you saw on tape. 437 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 2: And again, just bringing it back full circle, we started 438 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: this this show talking about rvel Reese and Sonny Styles. 439 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:36,160 Speaker 2: They're ten times Sonny Styles fastest of the day. 440 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh was the one five six was the official? 441 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 442 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, the unofficial was one five to one, But one 443 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 2: five six, I mean that's that's pretty dang impressive right there, 444 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 2: and rvel Reese was right behind him, So I mean, shoot, 445 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,119 Speaker 2: maybe we put Sonny Styles out on the edge too. 446 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 3: People to try to figure out how to maximize all 447 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 3: that athleticism and talent. 448 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: But yeah, that's certainly helped man. 449 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 4: Just incredible numbers. 450 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: A historic day, Historic day one talking about the dB. 451 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 2: Excuse me, the linebackers, the defensive ends, and the defensive tackles. 452 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 2: So what will the dbs bring us? Since two thousand 453 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: and three, twenty two players have run a sub four 454 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 2: to three forty yard dash. Last year it was Matthew 455 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 2: Golden the wide out, and was Maxwell Harston the dB 456 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: who was one year ago today out here running. 457 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: There's some guys in this group. Just as a quick. 458 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 2: Primer for anybody's watching this and listening to this before 459 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 2: you get the dB drills. 460 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 4: Brandon Sees could be the guy could. 461 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, Brandon Say is a guy that is really impressive. 462 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 3: People have loved his athleticism on tape. They really like 463 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 3: the way you played in South Carolina after transfer. 464 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: From NC State. Buffer run Corner has all the trace 465 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: that you look for. 466 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: If he shows up and shows out athletically, we'll talk 467 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: about him locking in his spot in the first round. 468 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 2: All right, Well, we will see if he can meet 469 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 2: those expectations. We are back here with you for another 470 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 2: recap podcast here on Movie the Sticks, following day two 471 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: of the action here at the scouting combline in Indianapolis. 472 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: We'll catch you that