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Speaker 1: have more power in college football than any other sport
Speaker 1: Boosters help pay for programs, They help make decisions. Fans
Speaker 1: are a loud enough to make the administration miserable if
Speaker 1: they aren't on board with the coach. And that's what
Speaker 1: happened this weekend when USC lost at home to Stanford,
Speaker 1: Clay Helton he got fired. And I think it's surprising
Speaker 1: he lasted as long as he did at USC. After
Speaker 1: USC lost forty two twenty eight to Stanford. They had
Speaker 1: had enough fired Helton. He started out with promise, helping
Speaker 1: provide stability after the tumultuous exit from Steve Sarkisian, but
Speaker 1: the team's been disappointing as of late, and those Pete
Speaker 1: Carroll glory days are a long, long time ago. Haven't
Speaker 1: been closed since Pete left. And there's no reason that
Speaker 1: USC shouldn't be an elite team. Southern California can challenge
Speaker 1: any area in the country when you think about it
Speaker 1: for talent, but you have some marquee players, including quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: who just aren't staying closer to home. You have an
Speaker 1: associate head coach, Dante Williams, who takes over on an
Speaker 1: interim basis, and maybe he can salvage what was once
Speaker 1: a promising season. If not, back to the drawing board
Speaker 1: for a program with high expectations and very very low
Speaker 1: results as of late, this is it in the short term.
Speaker 1: That's a good problem to have. If Dante Williams, the
Speaker 1: associate head coach, the interim head coach, does well, then
Speaker 1: you're having a successful season. If I'm a USC fan,
Speaker 1: how successful do I want my season to be? Because
Speaker 1: I'm getting a new coach, or at least I think
Speaker 1: I'm getting a new coach, because USC has done this before,
Speaker 1: where you have somebody come in interim head coach. Players
Speaker 1: like him, they play hard for him, and then all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you go, well, let's just promote him.
Speaker 1: Usually you don't make a decision like this unless you
Speaker 1: know what your next hire is going to be. Coaches
Speaker 1: don't get fired in September. Really rare it happens. I
Speaker 1: mean it's not even officially fall. Now do you swing?
Speaker 1: You swing for the fences, ground rule, double tape, major shot,
Speaker 1: You go after Lane Kiffin? Do you go after do
Speaker 1: you go after urban Meyer? They had gone after urban
Speaker 1: Meyer before? Do you go after Luke Fickle? The Cincinnati
Speaker 1: head coach who has ties to the current athletic director
Speaker 1: at USC. Usually that's what happens a lot of these situations.
Speaker 1: You connect the dots, and Luke Fickle, while not a
Speaker 1: USC guy, mightn't be the guy for this program, done
Speaker 1: a really good job at Cincinnati. And I always like
Speaker 1: when they say, well he's a no nonsense guy. Who
Speaker 1: is it a no nonsense guy who's a nonsense Hey,
Speaker 1: I'm not a no nonsense guy, you know, no curfew
Speaker 1: have fun? Who cares? Let's have fun? Like I'm guessing
Speaker 1: that you know you want to have a no nonsense
Speaker 1: guy in there. How about a coach who is well
Speaker 1: liked by the player, you know, like all these corny cliches,
Speaker 1: he players coach. He got to bring in a players
Speaker 1: coach here. But I think you got an opportunity here.
Speaker 1: You get a headstart on every other program that might
Speaker 1: be replacing a coach. But I don't think you make
Speaker 1: a decision like this without having an idea of who
Speaker 1: you're going to bring in. Yeah, mclub, so didn't you
Speaker 1: sell a basketball hired Cincinnati coach mccronin This feels like
Speaker 1: the same exact hire in a weird way. I know
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Just like a guy who's a really, really
Speaker 1: well respected mid level coach. But fans do fans get
Speaker 1: excited about that kind of thing. They probably won't with
Speaker 1: Luke Fickle, but he's a really good coach. But I
Speaker 1: don't know if Kenny can you recruit? Can you recruit
Speaker 1: on the West code? Like? There's so many things that
Speaker 1: go into this. It's not just boy, he's a great
Speaker 1: football guy. It's a great football guy. How are you
Speaker 1: with the media. How are you you know in southern California?
Speaker 1: Can you recruit? Can you keep players? Are you going
Speaker 1: to be a run a running team. Are you going
Speaker 1: to get back to USC old school or are you're
Speaker 1: gonna be wide open like you have been play small
Speaker 1: ball as opposed to big You know, there's just so
Speaker 1: many questions here, and you know, you have new president,
Speaker 1: you have a new athletic director, like you know, everybody's
Speaker 1: trying to figure this out so they don't make a
Speaker 1: mistake like Pat Hayden has made before and Lynn Swan's
Speaker 1: made before. You're you're you're promoting somebody. I mean, this
Speaker 1: has really been a mess since Pete Carroll left, and
Speaker 1: they were lucky to have Pete Carroll to begin with. Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I love the college football dance though, because if you're
Speaker 1: the USC fltic director and you want Luke Vickle, you
Speaker 1: have to back channel and talk to him because you
Speaker 1: got to make sure if I offer you this job,
Speaker 1: you're taking it. You're not going to get a raise
Speaker 1: out of it, because the last thing you want is
Speaker 1: Cincinnati head coach passes on USC job as a headline.
Speaker 1: You don't want that headline you can't have that, and
Speaker 1: then because everyone in LA's be like he wouldn't leave
Speaker 1: Cincinnati for USC. That's a bad day. You gotta avoid
Speaker 1: that day. Well, we'll talk to Rick Neuheisel, former UCLA
Speaker 1: head coach, will join us a little bit later on.
Speaker 1: We'll check in with the Trojans coming up, and all
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Speaker 1: the poll question we're going with with our two is
Speaker 1: the most disappointing college program of late That's why I
Speaker 1: put in. Okay, the choices are Florida State, Texas, USC, Michigan,
Speaker 1: and Nebraska. Now, we've gotten a bunch of other tweets.
Speaker 1: We got to Miami's and some Tennessee's. Okay, but I
Speaker 1: capped it at five. Oh I'm supposed to guess Okay, Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, well I'll tell you who's leading. Okay,
Speaker 1: Nebraska is just a little bit ahead of Michigan. Okay,
Speaker 1: Michigan has done well, just not well enough, because you're
Speaker 1: always going to be in the shadow of of Ohio State. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, Texas, I guess is in the shadow of
Speaker 1: Oklahoma or even Texas A and M as of recently,
Speaker 1: usc who are you in the shadow of because UCLA
Speaker 1: hasn't been good, Oregon or Washington or Stanford. It feels like,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on the year, you have a different
Speaker 1: program that sort of emerges there. Florida State has been
Speaker 1: disappointing for a while, and that used to be one
Speaker 1: of those they were playing for a national championship or
Speaker 1: at least in the conversation, Yeah, mclov and change a
Speaker 1: poll question because it was the most disappointed college football
Speaker 1: program in the past decade. Yeah, which would take Florida
Speaker 1: State partially out of it. Florida was in the national
Speaker 1: championship game and won it in twenty thirteen. They you know,
Speaker 1: ten wins, thirteen wins, ten wins, and then Jimbo Fisher
Speaker 1: went They had that seven and six year and got
Speaker 1: the heck out of Dodge and took the cash down
Speaker 1: in college station. Yeah, they had three coaches in four
Speaker 1: years and they started this season and two ok they're
Speaker 1: drastically bad. Yeah. Yeah, and they just lost to Jacksonville State.
Speaker 1: Does that feel like a long time ago that Jamis
Speaker 1: win sin Era Yeah yeah, but that's what happens in sports.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you go, like the Cubs, they haven't won
Speaker 1: a World Series since twenty sixteen. It seems like that's forever.
Speaker 1: They had a they had a bad century. Yes, MC club,
Speaker 1: my Eagles, that was that was Yeah, it feels like
Speaker 1: that too, Yeah, Seaton. But for somebody or someplace like
Speaker 1: Texas to be that big and that powerful and also
Speaker 1: that sort of irrelevant, yea, feels like something's really wrong there,
Speaker 1: like they need to be they need to have more success.
Speaker 1: When's the last time Texas was relevant? Yeah? Bo When
Speaker 1: they hired Tom Herman in twenty seventeen, he went ten
Speaker 1: and four, went to the Sugar Bowl in eighteen and
Speaker 1: it felt good for about eight minutes, and then they
Speaker 1: went eight and five to seven and three. Eight gone though.
Speaker 1: Mac Brown went in two thousand and nine, was thirteen
Speaker 1: and one and lost the BCS National Title Game and
Speaker 1: then it went it cooled off. Remember he had that
Speaker 1: coaching waiting thing. Yeah, Will must Chant that went sour
Speaker 1: and he stuck around. Yeah. A couple of phone calls here,
Speaker 1: Bill win Florida leads this off this hour high Bill,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Good morning from sunny Claire Water, Florida.
Speaker 1: Dan and Danetts got a way in on USC and
Speaker 1: also Manning Night Football. Okay, I think all USC needs
Speaker 1: to do is wait till Urban gets fired or takes
Speaker 1: one for the team and steps down. Okay. As far
Speaker 1: as Manning Night Football, I watched it. I had to
Speaker 1: go back to traditional after half an hour because I
Speaker 1: got I wanted to see as the game not a
Speaker 1: small little box. It's at different sections of the screen
Speaker 1: every five or ten minutes. Yeah, I think it's a
Speaker 1: great idea. I think they should do more of the
Speaker 1: screen of the game and Peyton and Eli in the
Speaker 1: boxes because they were funny as all hell. I mean,
Speaker 1: Eli was given it and I really and I really
Speaker 1: enjoyed and all the comments about Peyton's head were just
Speaker 1: so funny. Yeah. I thought Eli got off a couple
Speaker 1: of really good ones there. Thank you. Bill. Here's something
Speaker 1: that you don't know about Peyton Manning, but I want
Speaker 1: to tell you because last night I was in New
Speaker 1: York City. I drove down with my wife for a
Speaker 1: week a memorial for the woman who's responsible for the
Speaker 1: spiece more a man. She had passed away and we
Speaker 1: weren't able to hold a memorial due to COVID, and
Speaker 1: we finally got everybody together that we could, and her
Speaker 1: friends did a wonderful job. Well, Peyton has his debut
Speaker 1: for Monday Night Football with Eli, but he thought so
Speaker 1: much of this woman because of all the times that
Speaker 1: Peyton was involved in the SP's and he really respected her,
Speaker 1: loved her as a friend. Peyton and Eli came over
Speaker 1: from New Jersey from Eli's house so they could come
Speaker 1: in to the memorial and Peyton gave a speech that
Speaker 1: was wonderful. Hartfelt he was emotional. So this is just
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, an hour and a half before
Speaker 1: he's going to make his debut on Monday Night Football.
Speaker 1: With what they're doing now, you can say, well, it's
Speaker 1: casual settings with his brother. Still they want to do
Speaker 1: it right, and knowing Peyton, he always wants to do
Speaker 1: it right. But he came in and he said, look,
Speaker 1: I wrote this speech a long time ago after Moura
Speaker 1: passed away, and he wanted to make sure that he
Speaker 1: was there and it was extremely moving. But you understood
Speaker 1: that what this woman meant to not only the SPS,
Speaker 1: but also to Peyton Manning that he would come in
Speaker 1: and come in, you know, during rush hour to get
Speaker 1: there to do this speech. And then he and Eli
Speaker 1: left and went back so he could do his broadcast
Speaker 1: last night. But it was it was a wonderful moment,
Speaker 1: really was, and more meant Uh, a wonderful person will
Speaker 1: be missed. A couple more phone calls here, then we'll
Speaker 1: take a break. Grover in New Orleans? Hey Grover, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind today? How you doing? One? The Rascal
Speaker 1: fans probably for the most passionate about the full question.
Speaker 1: Me personally, I think Florida State it was my mind.
Speaker 1: I don't know why they just can't hit it together.
Speaker 1: That's great tradition, but a couple of the USC So
Speaker 1: what I think Lane Kiffin's no brainer for me personally,
Speaker 1: I think they see they swallowed their private on that one.
Speaker 1: He's probably going to need like a tar mate claws
Speaker 1: on a contract. But uh, what do you think about
Speaker 1: them looking back at head order on and the trouble
Speaker 1: he's in and if not, do you think it would
Speaker 1: be leverage for it? Liked Order wanted to do a
Speaker 1: less Miles leverage. Well, I think coachone needs to get
Speaker 1: his team in order before he's having any leverage there.
Speaker 1: I always love less Miles. Was always up and felt
Speaker 1: like for the Arkansas job every two years and be
Speaker 1: like Arkansas interested in less Miles and then less Miles
Speaker 1: get a raise. You you could count on it. It's like, uh,
Speaker 1: less one ten games, he probably needs a raise there,
Speaker 1: less Miles Intel, they're down here and they're in shouldn't
Speaker 1: less Miles? And I'm like, he's gonna get a raise
Speaker 1: and he's gonna stay. But a tarmac clause with Lane
Speaker 1: kiffn Now, you can't fire him on the tarmac. I
Speaker 1: don't know if there's ever been a tarmac clause in
Speaker 1: a coaching contract, but I'm I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can say I'm going to rule that person out. If
Speaker 1: you're going to include Urban Meyer in this search, then
Speaker 1: I'm going to include Layne Kiffin in this search. I mean,
Speaker 1: might as well one more phone call then we'll take
Speaker 1: a break. Wayne in Arizona High Wayne, Hey, Dan, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? Uh? Um? Just a few things. I
Speaker 1: like the uh the manning, the Manning Night Football. It
Speaker 1: was very fresh to hear Peyton's analysis and Eli's jokes.
Speaker 1: I'm a Giants and New York Giants football fan, so
Speaker 1: anytime to see Eli get with with Peyton is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Um. It seemed like it was more like
Speaker 1: a you know, watching watching the show with your buddies.
Speaker 1: You know, I go down to the bar watching with
Speaker 1: your buddies and you talk, you tell stories, and then
Speaker 1: you watch the play and then you get your analysis.
Speaker 1: And at the end there and overtime to watch Peyton
Speaker 1: gripped at football like he was actually in the game
Speaker 1: was pretty hilarious. Yeah, there were there were some fun
Speaker 1: moments there and thanks for the phone call, Wayne, I
Speaker 1: mean there were there. It this is just the first
Speaker 1: time they were doing it. It'll evolve. I thought that
Speaker 1: the sneaky part of it was you had Russell Wilson
Speaker 1: and the fourth quarter and overtime, and you're going to
Speaker 1: do this every single week now. I'm guessing Tom Brady
Speaker 1: Who's going to be part of this? At some point
Speaker 1: Brady has a bye week something, Brady will be there
Speaker 1: with Peyton, Eline Barkley last night, Travis Kelsey. Kelsey's going
Speaker 1: to join us on the program tomorrow. You know Travis
Speaker 1: Kelsey didn't know he was playing the Ravens. Next weekend,
Speaker 1: he's watching the Ravens play, and he did not know
Speaker 1: that the Chiefs were playing the raven That's somebody who
Speaker 1: takes it one game at a time. A lot of
Speaker 1: people tell you they're taking it one game at a time.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey is taking it up one game at a time. Wait,
Speaker 1: who we playing? Yeah, you guys are in Baltimore against
Speaker 1: the Ravens. Oh okay, all right, who's usc targeting here?
Speaker 1: Who should they target? Should Clay Helton have been fired
Speaker 1: after week two? Try to answer those questions coming up?
Speaker 1: Take a break seventeen after the hour. I'm glad you're
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Speaker 1: the wind last night against the Ravens. We'll hear from
Speaker 1: a couple of people including John Bruden and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 1: Wild game last night, almost three games in one at
Speaker 1: least it felt like that former UCLA head coach Rick
Speaker 1: Neuheis will join us coming up in an hour from now.
Speaker 1: Ryan Carchy covers USC for the La Times. Kind enough
Speaker 1: to join us on what has to be a busy day,
Speaker 1: probably busy a couple of days coming up here. Why now,
Speaker 1: Why was Clay Helton fired after two games? I think
Speaker 1: it was just made pretty clear in that Stanford defeat.
Speaker 1: When you're down by more than four touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter to a seventeen You're supposed to be a
Speaker 1: seventeen point favorite. It was the most opsided loss at
Speaker 1: the Colleseum ten unranked opponents since two thousand so, and
Speaker 1: I think just the general vibe around the program, just
Speaker 1: the frustration of this fan base. There are very few
Speaker 1: fan bases I think that spend three years just completely
Speaker 1: resolute in the fact that their coach be fired and
Speaker 1: letting the administration know very clearly. So I think that
Speaker 1: was in their heads, of course, and I think they
Speaker 1: just realized that after putting behind Clay Helton, putting so
Speaker 1: many resources and retooling the staff and changing the recruiting
Speaker 1: behind Clay Helton, to see him come out with just
Speaker 1: a demoralizing loss that basically showed all of the same
Speaker 1: issues in the last several years, I think that was
Speaker 1: just kind of a breaking point for them. What were
Speaker 1: the expectations for this team. Well, the expectations, as they said,
Speaker 1: have always been to get to a Pact Felt Championship
Speaker 1: or to win a pack Felt Championship. And you know,
Speaker 1: I think it was just pretty clear in that game
Speaker 1: that they weren't going to do that. But now you know,
Speaker 1: it was clear from the statement that Mike Bone, the
Speaker 1: athletic director, put out yesterday that it's kind of a
Speaker 1: national championship or bust attitude as they look for a
Speaker 1: head coach, and you know, they're saying all the right
Speaker 1: things in that sense. But you know, I think with
Speaker 1: Clay Helton, the result, the fact of the matter was
Speaker 1: he was just never going to reach that point. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, this administration came to that realization, maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit later than than some other people did. I
Speaker 1: think there's it's fair to quibble with the fact that
Speaker 1: they didn't just take care of this last year, but
Speaker 1: there are other factors involved, namely his buyout. For a
Speaker 1: long time, just given the fact that Lin Swan had
Speaker 1: given an extension to Clay Helton after the twenty seventeen season,
Speaker 1: if they would have fired him in twenty nineteen, it
Speaker 1: would have been twenty million dollars of a buyout, so
Speaker 1: that certainly played a part. That buyouts much smaller now,
Speaker 1: so I think that certainly helps. But at a certain point,
Speaker 1: you just reached that point where fans just aren't going
Speaker 1: to show up and it's gonna affect you financially in
Speaker 1: that way. Too. Yeah, and you go five and one,
Speaker 1: you know, during the pandemic, and you can't fire him then.
Speaker 1: But I was just surprised and your new athletic director
Speaker 1: when he came in at least was fair, and you
Speaker 1: would want that in your athletic director, to say, let
Speaker 1: me just see what we have here, to be fair
Speaker 1: to Clay Hilton. I was just surprised that lynn Swann
Speaker 1: kept him right. That was certainly a sign of the
Speaker 1: fact that lyn Swan didn't necessarily have the athletic director
Speaker 1: experience that you need when you're at USC. And since
Speaker 1: he's left it, it's been kind of clear, even just
Speaker 1: talking to officials in the athletic department who were there
Speaker 1: for both that it's just a stark change in professionalism.
Speaker 1: For whatever you think about the football program, at least
Speaker 1: Mike Bone has, you know, quite a bit of experience
Speaker 1: when it comes to the administrative aspects of the job.
Speaker 1: And you know, this will be the toughest test of
Speaker 1: him being an athletic director and it'll be interesting, certainly
Speaker 1: to see how that search plays out. But Ryan, you
Speaker 1: have so much that's gone on at USC in the
Speaker 1: last couple of years. We have the you know, operation
Speaker 1: Varsity Blues. You have, you know, a sexual assault harassment
Speaker 1: lawsuit against a camp was doctor. I mean, you didn't
Speaker 1: have fans of the football games. There's a whole lot
Speaker 1: going on here. It almost felt like they couldn't make
Speaker 1: a move like this because they didn't want to add
Speaker 1: to what was already going on. Would that be overstating
Speaker 1: this maybe just some degree, although I do think like
Speaker 1: all of those things play a factor obviously, and I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's an interesting sign of where the university
Speaker 1: is that at that the leadership of the university looks
Speaker 1: at the pandemic and the obvious deficit and financial issues
Speaker 1: that come from that, and they say, you know, we
Speaker 1: still need to get rid of Clay Helton, whether his
Speaker 1: buyout is over ten million, whether we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: pay you know, several million more to buy out to
Speaker 1: members of his staff, or to buy out a new coach.
Speaker 1: At a certain point, the bottom line that's being affected
Speaker 1: by our football program is important enough to make that change.
Speaker 1: But I do think, you know, with Clay Helton, it
Speaker 1: always helped the fact that he was viewed as a
Speaker 1: man of integrity. He was a consummate gentleman. You never
Speaker 1: had to worry about just ethical issues at least at
Speaker 1: a program level with Clay Helton in charge, and that
Speaker 1: was the reason why he was hired in the first
Speaker 1: place by Pat Hayden. You know, post Steve Sarkasian, Pat
Speaker 1: Hayden kind of became taken with the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: this was a man of integrity who would be leading
Speaker 1: us into a new era. We can put this Sarkeesian
Speaker 1: era behind us. Obviously a pretty short sighted look at
Speaker 1: how you hire your football coach, and that certainly played out.
Speaker 1: But I think that when you look at the fact
Speaker 1: that Clay Helton got six full seasons as the head coach,
Speaker 1: I think it helped quite a bit that he was
Speaker 1: kind of viewed as a man of integrity and people
Speaker 1: generally liked him, including his players. Who should be the
Speaker 1: next head coach at USC, you know that that's a
Speaker 1: tough question. I think they have a really difficult search
Speaker 1: ahead in the sense that a lot of Boosters want
Speaker 1: a big splash hire our own. Bill Plashkey said in
Speaker 1: his column yesterday that you know, they need to go
Speaker 1: out and hire a guy, not that need still needs
Speaker 1: to prove himself, but that has already proven himself that
Speaker 1: already has the equity in recruiting and nationally to sort
Speaker 1: of instantly hit the ground running and make USC that
Speaker 1: national contender. I'm not sure many of those guys are
Speaker 1: out there. There's a Bob Soups, maybe Chris Peterson, I know,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure in the coming weeks their agents
Speaker 1: will will leak out that they're not interested. The obvious
Speaker 1: choice a lot of people have connected is Luke Fickle
Speaker 1: at Cincinnati because that's who Mike Bone hired when he
Speaker 1: was the athletic director there. I'm not so sure that's
Speaker 1: a sure thing. I think Luke Fickle, you know, spent
Speaker 1: basically his entire life in Ohio and the Midwest. I've
Speaker 1: heard from some people they're not sure whether he would
Speaker 1: want to go to USC and be a part of
Speaker 1: that kind of lay of fans constantly complaining about the program. Now,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of other candidates, Matt Campbell, maybe
Speaker 1: even a Bill O'Brien who sort of bring that heft.
Speaker 1: Maybe they have kind of proven themselves a little bit
Speaker 1: in difficult places. I was wondering if you'd bring that
Speaker 1: up that I'm sure there will be a lot of
Speaker 1: message forward topics with urban Meyer in the title over
Speaker 1: the next couple of weeks. But the same issues stand
Speaker 1: from before when when he was talked about, and every
Speaker 1: indication that I gotten from USC officials, from people at
Speaker 1: the university, even not even just in athletics, was to
Speaker 1: the appetite for risk. I'm bringing in a guy who
Speaker 1: asked maybe questions about his integrity in his past. You know,
Speaker 1: at this current moment in our society, I just don't
Speaker 1: know that that administration at the university level has the
Speaker 1: stomach for that. Layne Kiffin, that would certainly be interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Lane would want to come back,
Speaker 1: just given the way the way things ended. But honestly,
Speaker 1: everything I've heard is that they will open up the
Speaker 1: search to anyone and everyone. For now. They have basically
Speaker 1: three months to conduct it. So that's a lot of
Speaker 1: time to figure it out. But it also leaves less
Speaker 1: margin for error in terms of if you get it wrong,
Speaker 1: you really screwed this up. You had that much time.
Speaker 1: I'm going to throw out another name, and he was
Speaker 1: just on campus, David Shaw. Yes, I mean, he wouldn't
Speaker 1: leave for NFL jobs. Now, I wonder if he'd really
Speaker 1: want to uproot his family and all that to leave
Speaker 1: Stanford when he clearly I mean they've had a rough
Speaker 1: couple of seasons and you don't hear his name anywhere
Speaker 1: near the hot Sea. So I think that's a pretty
Speaker 1: comfortable situation to be in. Although fascinating idea. Great to
Speaker 1: talk to you, Ryan, Thanks for joining us. We'll be
Speaker 1: following what you right. Awesome. Thanks. That's Ryan Carty. He
Speaker 1: covers USC for the La Times. So you had Helton
Speaker 1: Sarcasian ed orgeron. David Shaw is always there at Stanford.
Speaker 1: You know, he knows West Coast recruiting, he knows the conference,
Speaker 1: great image, scholastic requirements, and he makes less than Clay
Speaker 1: Helton makes at USC. I don't know if David Shaw
Speaker 1: is interested coming down the coast, but I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's a situation where you go, well, that'll never happen,
Speaker 1: or they'll never reach out to that guy. I've learned
Speaker 1: in this business over forty years to never say never.
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin leaving Tennessee, Bobby Petrino, he left the Falcons
Speaker 1: mid season. I've been doing this a long time and
Speaker 1: when somebody goes, oh no, they'd never go for that
Speaker 1: or that that's not somebody that they would take. Now.
Speaker 1: I know that you and I was told this from
Speaker 1: a you know, a great source at USC that it
Speaker 1: went up to the top and the top said, no,
Speaker 1: we're not bringing in Urban Meyer. We can't, we can't
Speaker 1: have questions here, we can't, not in the current climate
Speaker 1: at USC. And I think they had offered Urban a
Speaker 1: pretty sizable paycheck to come in and be the next
Speaker 1: head coach. You know what screwed things up is Pact
Speaker 1: twelve football came back and USC went five and one
Speaker 1: because you can't fire Clay Helton after you know, five
Speaker 1: and one. But you know, they got blown out in
Speaker 1: big games, you know, against big opponents that they weren't competitive.
Speaker 1: And it's rare when you tune in to watch USC
Speaker 1: and they don't have a ton of talent there and
Speaker 1: you don't see them. We'll talk to Rick new Heizel
Speaker 1: about this coming up next hour. Brian and Denver joining us. Hey, Brian,
Speaker 1: what's on your mind today? All right? It's as good
Speaker 1: talking to you a couple of things as lets in
Speaker 1: the blackcast last night, And it took a little while
Speaker 1: to kind of get used to, but it was it
Speaker 1: was a really nice break from what I find is
Speaker 1: maybe I'm just getting older, but you kind of get
Speaker 1: tired of here and the same announcers, kind of the
Speaker 1: same rhetoric. And so to hear the brothers going back
Speaker 1: and forth whip knowledge of the game but also having
Speaker 1: a little bit of fun was was a nice change.
Speaker 1: You could really see the stark difference in personalities between
Speaker 1: like the super intense type a Peyton and then the
Speaker 1: more you know, I mean just in their manners, and
Speaker 1: it was pretty wild. Yeah. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: guys caught it, but even in in like the joke deliveries,
Speaker 1: Eli at one point mentioned, you know red seven Red
Speaker 1: seven hot route, which was a wedding crashers, you know,
Speaker 1: like line, and he said in the chuckle and himself
Speaker 1: and Payton can't even focus. He's just laser focused on
Speaker 1: the game. So it was a nice break. It's curious
Speaker 1: to see how it guys moving forward, but I appreciated
Speaker 1: that their insight and their humor and a great game
Speaker 1: to see them react live, Yeah, to such a wild ending. Um.
Speaker 1: He always wondered like, oh, well, these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: are they are they just football fans or are they
Speaker 1: you know, can they not get out of the long
Speaker 1: way with their experiences? And they reacted just raw like
Speaker 1: a fan would like, wow, this is this is a
Speaker 1: ridiculous ending. So and Peyton couldn't hide his disdain for things.
Speaker 1: He would slump in his chair. But yeah, Eli is
Speaker 1: very sneaky. He'll just have a line and it's a
Speaker 1: throwaway line and if you catch it, great, If not,
Speaker 1: you just move on. I would love to see them
Speaker 1: get out a blackboard or a white board and just
Speaker 1: start dissecting plays. Now that was later in the game
Speaker 1: that they did it, but I'd like to see more
Speaker 1: of that, almost to set up, Hey, here's a couple
Speaker 1: of things to keep an eye on, and you know,
Speaker 1: here's a play that when you see this, this is
Speaker 1: what could happen. Then it like, we love to know,
Speaker 1: we love to be knowledgeable, we love to know more
Speaker 1: than the next guy. And when somebody says, hey, here's
Speaker 1: some plays to keep an eye on. This is a
Speaker 1: favorite play with John Gruden loves this with Derek Carr
Speaker 1: or when Lamar Jackson is in this set, this is
Speaker 1: what they love to do. I'd love to see more
Speaker 1: of that because unless we get Peyton coming in and
Speaker 1: he's going to be a Tony Romo type where he's
Speaker 1: doing CBS or NBC or Fox. This is his close.
Speaker 1: We're going to get it because I would love to
Speaker 1: have the camera behind the quarterback taking you to the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and having Peyton go, there's the mic
Speaker 1: linebacker there. Now, this is what I'm going to do.
Speaker 1: I want to bring this tight end in motion here
Speaker 1: and then I want to so he will be your
Speaker 1: quarterback and I'd love to see that if you could
Speaker 1: do it now. ESPN has the camera angles. I would
Speaker 1: love to have a camera for Manning Night Football that
Speaker 1: allows these guys to go to the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: in real time and tell me what you see. So
Speaker 1: it's fun, it's different, and it's the first broadcast they
Speaker 1: have and I think, you know, I got what nine more? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like when the Ravens, you know, keep targeting their
Speaker 1: tight end. They have Travis Kelsey right and they're laying.
Speaker 1: They're like, man, how great is it when you're just
Speaker 1: eating like this right talking and he's like, oh, it's
Speaker 1: the best. It's the best. And then neither Peyton or
Speaker 1: Eli was like, so what's it like then? When you
Speaker 1: guys are rolling on offense and Mahomes gives you your
Speaker 1: blocking scheme, like you're staying in and blocking for me
Speaker 1: and you're not going out. It was a very funny
Speaker 1: moment because you could see he's just like, oh, it's crushing.
Speaker 1: It's the words, like you just want to get out
Speaker 1: and cancel. I still love that. Kelsey didn't know he's
Speaker 1: playing the Ravens next week. Yes. Boy. The other thing
Speaker 1: they pointed out is like Manning was going crazy. Peyton
Speaker 1: man was going crazy because the Raiders fans are cheering
Speaker 1: on a third and one. They're making it loud and
Speaker 1: hurting their own offense. Why don't you guy quiet down
Speaker 1: to help your offense out? And he kept saying, don't
Speaker 1: they know how football game beticutt works? He was, he
Speaker 1: was all flabbergasted. Week one passing yards Derek Carr four
Speaker 1: thirty five, Prescott four h three, Tom Brady three seventy nine,
Speaker 1: Kirk d. Cousins three fifty one, Jared Goff three thirty eight.
Speaker 1: Here's even more three hundred yard passing games. Mahomes with
Speaker 1: three thirty seven, Justin Herbert three thirty seven, Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: three thirty two, Matthew Stafford three twenty one, Baker Mayfield
Speaker 1: Junior the third three twenty one used to be you
Speaker 1: threw for three hundred yards, that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: Jamis had to throw the fewess yards of any starting
Speaker 1: quarterback unless it's Ryan Fitzpatrick who didn't finish the game. Yeah, me, club,
Speaker 1: When did passing yards become a negative? It really is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So if you threw it for four hundred yards, like, oh,
Speaker 1: your team didn't do Musy, you lost. Yes, car wins,
Speaker 1: Prescott loses, Brady wins, Kirk d cousins, lou was his
Speaker 1: golf loses, Mahomes wins, Herbert wins, Lawrence loses, Stafford wins,
Speaker 1: Mayfield loses. You have the lowest yardage, lowest yardage of
Speaker 1: any quarterback that started and completed the game. I guess
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers one thirty three. Oh that's right, that's right.
Speaker 1: No offense. Yeah, he got he got benched, right, Well,
Speaker 1: that was the headline, and I went, he didn't get benched.
Speaker 1: It was just we're not winning this game. What are
Speaker 1: we having him out there for. Let's bring in Jordan Love,
Speaker 1: uh Mark and North Carolina. Then we'll take a break.
Speaker 1: More phone calls coming up. Hey Mark, Hey Dan, how
Speaker 1: are you doing? Good sir? What do you have? All six?
Speaker 1: Two and a totally two thirty five? Hey? Um? Hold on?
Speaker 1: Dog went outside? Sorry second? Sorry about that? Oh all right,
Speaker 1: so what's the what's the dog's name? Cooper? It's not
Speaker 1: even mine. It's a buddy of mine's dog watching them
Speaker 1: while he's got the beach this week. Oh oh, you
Speaker 1: can't lose him. No, no, no, I mean he doesn't
Speaker 1: get the part from my side. But still, okay, good,
Speaker 1: Never can you repel with this step? All right? Anyways,
Speaker 1: I want to call in. I have too great regarding
Speaker 1: from yesterday that I want to get your feedback opinion on,
Speaker 1: seeing that it's even based in anything, So if you
Speaker 1: could annulge me. First off, the national anthem h for me.
Speaker 1: I'm very ficking pired of hearing celebrities do their own
Speaker 1: fancy rendition of it. No offense to Gladys Night, great career,
Speaker 1: amazing singer. But at one point you could see John
Speaker 1: Gruden's face like you just to know the fart and
Speaker 1: didn't want to admit that he's done to fart. So
Speaker 1: you can go back and watch that, but it's just
Speaker 1: such a beautiful song, and it's one of the most
Speaker 1: difficult songs to sing, and yet people butcher it all
Speaker 1: the time. If you sing that, you know, if you
Speaker 1: sing an on key, if it's you know, done with
Speaker 1: the great melody, it's spine chilling. So I just had
Speaker 1: a little just that an issue last night with how
Speaker 1: that came off. All right, well, well, got a problem
Speaker 1: with the Jimmy jimmersons and in particular listening to interviews
Speaker 1: on the show. I love the show. I love listening
Speaker 1: to all the using questions that you have, but you know,
Speaker 1: going along with your grapes that you have, you know
Speaker 1: you said yesterday, well, all they're well coached or it
Speaker 1: is what it is, you know, all those little fillers
Speaker 1: that you hear in the media. Can you start calling
Speaker 1: people out when they keep saying that's a great question,
Speaker 1: because I just don't think every single question the great
Speaker 1: question seems like that they're stalling for time and they
Speaker 1: weren't really listening to your question to begin with. I
Speaker 1: got all right, well, Mark, I would disagree with that
Speaker 1: because I take great pride in the questions that I ask.
Speaker 1: They're not throwaway questions, and we want to make you
Speaker 1: think We've heard from a variety of guests who's that
Speaker 1: they come on. They appreciate the variety of questions that
Speaker 1: we have, including Nick Saban. But you know, I understand
Speaker 1: if somebody says, well that's a great question. Well I
Speaker 1: get it that you're buying time, but you're buying time
Speaker 1: because it's a thought provoking question. And I take it
Speaker 1: as a compliment. As far as the anthem, turn down
Speaker 1: the sound and walk away, not that big a deal.
Speaker 1: Like do we have to complain about everything? Like it's
Speaker 1: it's two and a half minutes, Go get a beer,
Speaker 1: take a walk, take your dog out for a walk.
Speaker 1: It doesn't like everything doesn't have to be like oh
Speaker 1: you know what, I hey, okay, it doesn't affect me.
Speaker 1: I've learned to just there are certain things that are
Speaker 1: really important other things. Who gives a bleep? I mean,
Speaker 1: let's go yeah, yeah, yes, Paul. He also said spine chilling.
Speaker 1: He combines spine tingling and bone chilling into one phrase
Speaker 1: from a glove and move. Yes, Tom speaking of complaints
Speaker 1: my wife, because I always make fun of it when
Speaker 1: they arena say that when you see flags, I always
Speaker 1: like to say, up, there's laundry. On the field, copying
Speaker 1: what the various you know broadcasters would say. And for
Speaker 1: some reason he is very annoyed and bothered by that
Speaker 1: when I when I say we've got laundry, instead of
Speaker 1: just you know, there's a flag on the failow. We've
Speaker 1: got a penalty for somebody who doesn't do the laundry.
Speaker 1: You shouldn't say there's laundry. It's a very valid point.
Speaker 1: It just reminds her of all the laundry she has
Speaker 1: yet to do. Let's take a break here, more more
Speaker 1: phone calls coming me more complaint Complaint department is open
Speaker 1: here eight seven seven three DP show. Can't you just
Speaker 1: sing the song like everybody else? Does she? That's this
Speaker 1: whole variety things, singing the same way everybody else did.
Speaker 1: Easy with the creativity. Yeah, how dare you put your stamp? Yes, Todd,
Speaker 1: I'm the Rockets. Whoa back after this? Thanks for listening
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Speaker 1: has a limerick based off of last night's Monday Night performance. Here, Tod,
Speaker 1: are you ready to give us your limerick? I would
Speaker 1: love to. All right, sounds good. Now that's one for
Speaker 1: silver and black lore. As fans enter a new stadium door,
Speaker 1: some skill and some lucky, but the wind goes to chucky.
Speaker 1: What happened in Vegas will stay with b Moore? All right,
Speaker 1: thank you, Ton, thank you? Um I solve where I
Speaker 1: want to give credit to whoever this story that Jay
Speaker 1: Z and Jeff Bezos are maybe in the running if
Speaker 1: the Broncos are sold. Do we knew who had that report?
Speaker 1: I think it was Sportico, which is a new like
Speaker 1: sports business. Okay, journal I'll double check that though. Okay,
Speaker 1: jay Z doesn't have the money to buy the Broncos.
Speaker 1: He's got he's a billionaire, but he's uh he remember
Speaker 1: when he did the whole thing with Roger Goodell, sat
Speaker 1: down with a commissioner and you know, help helping with
Speaker 1: racial issues there with the NFL. And I thought at
Speaker 1: the time, I thought jay Z's setting himself up to
Speaker 1: maybe be part of an ownership group. And he's got
Speaker 1: one point four billion. I think he can't buy the Bronchos,
Speaker 1: who are going to go for at least three and
Speaker 1: a half a billion, maybe four billion dollars. But he
Speaker 1: could be part of a group, whereas Jeff Bezos, I
Speaker 1: don't even know how many billions he's worth now. But
Speaker 1: let's say let's say the Broncos are four billion dollars,
Speaker 1: four billion to Jeff Bezos, would he equal what to
Speaker 1: the average citizen? So Jeff Bezos is rumored to be
Speaker 1: worth two hundred billion dollars, so at four billion dollars,
Speaker 1: he'd be spending two percent of his net worth on
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Now, let's say the average American family, the
Speaker 1: median income is seventy nine thousand. That would be like
Speaker 1: an average American family spending two thousand, five hundred dollars
Speaker 1: on a family vacation. So if you make seventy nine thousand,
Speaker 1: what can you afford to spend twenty five hundred on?
Speaker 1: That's what Jeff Bezos will be. But if you're a
Speaker 1: football fan, do you want to buy just one team?
Speaker 1: Just a team as opposed to being a football fan
Speaker 1: that once you become the Broncos owner, you're not a
Speaker 1: football fan. You're a Bronchos fan, and I wonder if
Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos looks at it and says, hey, I'd rather
Speaker 1: like Warren Buffett. Warren Buffett could have bought a football
Speaker 1: team or any team, but I think he wanted to
Speaker 1: just stay a fan. Yeah, mcluban. By the way, sorry,
Speaker 1: it was a j Perez with Front Office Sports. Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you? Yeah, I mean four billion dollars not that's
Speaker 1: nothing to Jeff Bezos. Yes, seton. Do you think when
Speaker 1: you go to a Broncos game, then all your food
Speaker 1: and beers will be delivered right to your seat? Oh?
Speaker 1: See what I did. There's a little Amazon joke. Do
Speaker 1: they have Amazon people at Mile High Stadium then deliver
Speaker 1: the food to you? Does his ex wife get half
Speaker 1: the team? He's done with it all over? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: done with that. Okay, Yeah, yeah, she had some nice
Speaker 1: parting gifts there. She should buy a team the next day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she should buy like the charger by, buy somebody to
Speaker 1: compete against him. Yeah, she just outbid him for the Broncos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I'll take him. Thanks. Wait, I lost the
Speaker 1: bid to who, uh your ex wife? McKenzie? Yes, mc
Speaker 1: I got the perfect head coach Deans for Prime Day
Speaker 1: at the stadium. Okay, all right, Fritzie, I'll oh that
Speaker 1: wasn't good. Try the fish now, that's good. That's it was.
Speaker 1: I really felt his energy coming as I said that.
Speaker 1: Oh well, at least we got the Limerick out of
Speaker 1: that segment there. Man. Yeah, I agreed. Final hour coming up,
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