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Speaker 1: Welcome to Media Exposed. It a Thanksgiving week special. Here

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Speaker 1: we're going to cover MTG. But the last time we

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Speaker 1: covered it there was a bickering, But this time she

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Speaker 1: decided to resign, leave Congress.

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about that.

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Speaker 1: What's going to talk about this big meeting that happened

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Speaker 2: May came in.

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Speaker 1: Everybody thought it was going to be Battle Royal w

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Speaker 1: We're also going to take a look at this editious

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Speaker 1: video they're saying that the senators put out in Congressman

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Speaker 1: against President Trump. How's the media covering that? Was that

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Speaker 1: right to do? What's going to speak to someone very

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Speaker 1: influential in Armenia who's being you know, persecuted as uncle is.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to talk to Narique Narrik Carpadian from Armenian,

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Speaker 1: very well known family, very wealthy family. We gonna speak

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Speaker 1: to that. More coming up on Media Exposed.

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Speaker 3: To you.

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Speaker 2: What they do say is fake.

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Speaker 1: That's how devious the media has become.

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Speaker 2: They're full force activists.

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Speaker 5: Now they colluded Trump folks.

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Speaker 6: We're in on it.

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Speaker 1: Lovy Sway's Elections Sways policy. We need to expose them,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it stops.

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Speaker 1: I've been doing this since I was eighteen.

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Speaker 2: I've had hit jobs done against me.

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Speaker 1: I've been attacked by media reporters. I'm afraid no truth

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Speaker 1: will prevail.

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Speaker 2: Fake news media.

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Speaker 1: We're here to call you out.

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Speaker 1: It was a big met last Friday in the Oval Office.

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Speaker 1: One of the most unexpected meeting that was happening, one

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Speaker 1: of the most wished upon meeting. I would say that

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Speaker 1: the newly elected mayor of New York City.

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Speaker 2: Mayor elect.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't been sworn in yet, zorron Man Donnie admitted Socialist,

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Speaker 1: admitted DSA party, so he's stacked in his administration. Were

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Speaker 1: stack in his transition team with DSA members. But Trump

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Speaker 1: did welcome into the Oval Office, and people thought they

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Speaker 1: were going to big fireworks. But you know what Trump wrote,

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Speaker 1: The Art of the Deal. It's almost forty years ago.

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Speaker 1: He wrote this book. There's a reason why he's so

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Speaker 1: good at negotiating. He brought him in, had him in

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Speaker 1: front of the cameras. The whole world was watching, and

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Speaker 1: it showed a softer side of Trump. They were people

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Speaker 1: expecting them back and forth, and they slapped each other

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Speaker 1: on the back, they gave each other credit. They came

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Speaker 1: together and said, these are the points we can work together.

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Speaker 2: But you're standing in front.

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Speaker 1: Of the resolute desk in the Oval Office with the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States. It shows that a softer

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Speaker 1: side at Trump. And that's what Trump needs to show

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Speaker 1: because he had the world watching him. And if you

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Speaker 1: listen to a media a lot, Trump's aid the fascist,

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Speaker 1: Trump's mean, he's Trump's a bully, all these things. And

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Speaker 1: he's standing there with a guy who attacked him on

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Speaker 1: election night. And Trump comes about and shows this kind

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Speaker 1: warm side. And I got a lot of texts from

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Speaker 1: moderate Democrats and women, what'd you think of that meeting?

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Speaker 1: Trump was so nice, I said, Yo, he wrote the

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Speaker 1: Art of the Deal, he wrote the book. He's very charming.

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Speaker 1: What do you think gets wrong with real world leaders?

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Speaker 1: For you know, there is a different side. There's the

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Speaker 1: political side, now it's the governing side. This kind of

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Speaker 1: warm human moment exactly what the GOP needs when they're

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Speaker 1: coming into the election. They don't need these harsh, you know,

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Speaker 1: bombastic ways because the midterms of one, not by the

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Speaker 1: far right, not by the far left. But you got

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Speaker 1: people in the middle. And if I get these tech

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Speaker 1: in New York, it's a good sign groups that respond

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Speaker 1: a softer policy. Of course, the meeting also shows how

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Speaker 1: legacy media engineered a conversation by pushing guests towards extreme

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Speaker 1: fail inmstry. The mainstream media didn't want a cordial relation.

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Speaker 1: They wanted this. They wanted bickering. They wanted conflict. But

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Speaker 1: that's what they always want and it shouldn't be that way.

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Speaker 1: We should have a warmer America where both sides get along,

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Speaker 1: causing conflict when it shouldn't be. This is part of

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Speaker 1: political causes. I want to go to this cut and

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Speaker 1: show you this is what the media did and how

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Speaker 1: Trump handled Let's go to cut one.

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Speaker 5: He asked about your comment called the president.

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Speaker 7: A fascist and your or was.

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Speaker 9: President Trump and I have clear about our positions.

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Speaker 7: And our views.

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Speaker 10: Are you affirming that you think President Trump's a fascist?

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Speaker 9: I've spoken about Okay.

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Speaker 2: That's easier.

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Speaker 1: It's easier than explaining it pedal. But so you see,

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Speaker 1: instead of asking some how, what will you two talk about?

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Speaker 1: What was the similarity of personality?

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Speaker 7: Is?

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Speaker 2: How do people that differ.

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Speaker 1: So much get along in America? You know, you come

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Speaker 1: from such different backgrounds. Hit him right out about the

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Speaker 1: fascist and what did Trump do? He lowered the situation.

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Speaker 1: He made the guy say, okay, you can say it.

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Speaker 1: Trump chose the much softer side of him and it

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Speaker 2: The media too.

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Speaker 1: And that was brilliant because it showed the world, hey,

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Speaker 1: this is a different kind of Trump. This is the

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Speaker 1: Trump that we know that I've seen in person many

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Speaker 1: He's got you know, this warm so off the side,

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Speaker 1: and I want to show you because even after that happened,

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Speaker 1: ask him how they got along, what policy is going

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Speaker 1: you've seen of Trump? What did you know? When are

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Speaker 4: In that press conference with President Trump, a reporter asked

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Speaker 4: a fascist, a word that you've used in the past.

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Speaker 5: You're about to answer. Then President Trump sort of.

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Speaker 4: Jumped in and he said, quote, that's okay.

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Speaker 11: You can just say yes.

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Speaker 4: It's easier than explaining it. So, mister mayor elect, just

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Speaker 4: to be very clear, do you think that President Trump

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Speaker 9: And after President Trump said that, I said yes, and

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Speaker 9: so you do. And that's something that I've said in

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Speaker 9: the past, I say it today. And I think what

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Speaker 9: of disagreement about the politics that has brought us to

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Speaker 9: this moment, and we also wanted to focus on what

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Speaker 9: of an affordability crisis for New Yorkers.

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Speaker 4: You've also said in the past that President Trump has

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Speaker 4: engaged in a quote attack on our democracy.

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Speaker 5: You've called him a death spot. Do you still believe.

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Speaker 4: President Trump is a threat to the democracy.

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Speaker 9: Everything that I've said in the past, I continue to believe.

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Speaker 1: So, Like, why did she not bring common ground? Why

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Speaker 1: couldn't she make it more personal? Why couldn't she make

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Speaker 1: people on the edge. Trump has been you know, somebody

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Speaker 1: tried to assassinate Trump, not ones twice. He got shot

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Speaker 1: the president as I got shot. We had a leader

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Speaker 1: was just spreading conservative values, Christian values, got executed, got murdered,

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. And you need to go Kristen Walker and

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Speaker 1: say do you still agree to he's a fascist and

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Speaker 1: a despot? What is that put in young people's mind

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Speaker 1: It gives them thoughts of if he is a fascist,

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Speaker 1: I have to take him out. This is terrible discourse

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Speaker 1: on behalf of the media. After Zorn and Trump got

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Speaker 1: pushing this narrative towards conservatives, towards Trump. It's not right.

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Speaker 1: It shouldn't be held up that way. And she knows better,

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Speaker 1: But is he beholden to his radical base still? Probably

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Speaker 1: Kristin Let's treat what respect. Let's have a positive relationship.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna need the city needs the federal government. Lots

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Speaker 1: of money comes in to help them. New York City

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Speaker 1: come in. The federal government helps the city of New York.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's transit, whether it's law enforcement, whether it's the bridges,

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Speaker 2: So leave it.

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Speaker 1: Ron needs to grow a pair of you know, to

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Speaker 1: stand up to reporters. You know, Trump is Trump. Trump

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Speaker 1: sold a much soft side and that's what it's about.

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Speaker 1: And Trump is fighting for the wars. Now he's trying

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Speaker 1: to end the big war. Now that's happened. That's happening

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Speaker 1: at the moment too. This week, you know, it seems

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Speaker 1: to be Ukraine seems to have accepted the idea of

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Speaker 1: ending the war. Finally, that's a bloody war. You know,

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Speaker 1: I worked with the country of Poland way back in

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Speaker 1: the consulate just for the Ukrainian.

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Speaker 2: People to showcase the war. Walk in.

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Speaker 1: It's fifty fifty year old men missing a leg SAI.

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Speaker 1: At the beginning of the war, I said, what's happening here? Oh,

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Speaker 1: these are the guys fighting in the war against Russia.

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Speaker 1: And that was three four years ago.

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Speaker 2: So that's that.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully that finally that big war comes to an end.

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Speaker 1: Nobody needs more bloodshed and you know, and hopefully we

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Speaker 1: have peace by the new year. Coming up next, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about MTG.

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Speaker 2: She gave up.

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Speaker 12: Voice welcome back to Media Exposed, Oh, Marjorie Taylor Green's

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Speaker 1: welcome my next guest. It's Michael Phil's software developer digital marketer.

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Speaker 2: Mike. Thanks for joining us back again to be.

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Speaker 1: Here, Mike, because we ended this last week with MTG

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Speaker 3: If I am cast aside by the President and the

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Speaker 3: then many common Americans have been cast aside and replaced

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Speaker 5: Have, and I look forward to a new path ahead.

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Speaker 3: I'll be resigning from office, with my last day being

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Speaker 3: January fifth, twenty twenty six, and I look forward to

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Speaker 3: God bless you all, and may God bless America.

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Speaker 1: You know, and Trump said real fast. Mikey said afterward,

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Speaker 1: Marjorie traded Brown. Couldn't just leave it as if Marjorie

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Speaker 2: To call it quits.

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Speaker 1: Her relationship with the worst Republican Congressman in decade, Tom Massey,

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Speaker 1: thank of her service. DJT. You know, I think Trump

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Speaker 13: Yeah, that classic Trump post, right passive, aggressive, like you're

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Speaker 2: For me, there's a lot of.

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Speaker 13: Things that I look at, Adam. Over the last couple

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Speaker 2: Believe it or not.

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Speaker 7: She is extremely wealthy right now. She has a lot

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Speaker 13: She did her cause, and I think what happened was

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Speaker 1: So maybe that wasn't written about him a lot, and

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Speaker 2: Out here, so I've got to just leave as is.

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Speaker 15: You know, I get along with everybody would be the

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Speaker 8: Why not?

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Speaker 8: Are you willing to for deep combers for my dator green.

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Speaker 6: But forget for us?

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Speaker 15: No, we just I just disagreed with her philosophy. She

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Speaker 15: you know, stupid person he named Matty, and uh, I

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Speaker 15: She resigned because you would have he would never have

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Speaker 1: Well, she was one of the original man like he

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Speaker 7: Well, here's what I think.

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Speaker 13: Like I said last week, I think there's two different

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Speaker 13: there's the Twitter and that's he's a PR. He's p. T.

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Speaker 13: He knows PR better than anybody else. But then there's

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Speaker 7: MBS.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 13: So I think if you got MTG and Trump in

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's Trump one oh one, Right, he knows how

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Speaker 1: it went to punch went to punch, not when to punch,

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Speaker 2: I'd call it right.

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Speaker 1: And he used to be in the boxing business back

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Speaker 1: the fighting game, he's always loved the marketing game, and

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Speaker 1: he's always played the art of the deal. And I

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Speaker 1: saw this story Mike from Chicago which hit me rand,

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Speaker 1: proving Trump's point. CBS NBC admitted this horrifying, vicious crime

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Speaker 1: week November six, twenty six year old Beth He was

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Speaker 1: at brand Allis laid as unfathomable. He had seventy two

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Speaker 2: You can't have this.

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Speaker 1: Liberal elites at CBS and NBC didn't even play the story.

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Speaker 1: you this. They did a seventy nine segment of them

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Speaker 1: nineteenth and they said was she's brought up on terrorism

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Speaker 1: charge by the federal government.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to cut through.

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Speaker 1: I want to watch this from NewsBusters tonight.

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Speaker 16: Federal terror terrorism charges after a horrific attack on a

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Speaker 16: Ryan an Alley tonight.

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Speaker 11: The man seen in these surveillance images allegedly setting a

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Speaker 9: A twenty six year old woman was deliberately set on

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Speaker 11: Attack, according to a criminal complaint and trained surveillance. On

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Speaker 17: When the train stopped and the victim was able to

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Speaker 11: Reid was captured about twelve hours later. Surveillance images from

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Speaker 1: A lot of us, Mike are in the car listen

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Speaker 1: to this package or we're not paying attention, we're doing

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Speaker 2: But we hear it, right, What is that missing?

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Speaker 1: If it was reversed, let's play guessing it. If that

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Speaker 7: Well, first I do want to give credit to ABC.

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Speaker 13: But my thought is this, and I'm just going to

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Speaker 13: them to put a white man and a black person.

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Speaker 13: They just need to be consistent, and that's the thing.

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Speaker 13: They're more concerned about the narrative than being consistent. And

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Speaker 13: so it was a man that attacked the women, and

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Speaker 13: you had to see it with your own eyes. If

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Speaker 13: you were listening, you wouldn't know anything about the case.

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Speaker 1: Right over and over again, they kept saying, a man,

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Speaker 1: a man, Well, what's the man? If this guy seventy

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Speaker 1: two arrests and did such a horrible thing, tell people

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Speaker 1: it's an apt freaking American man. Stop playing this footsie game.

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Speaker 1: The guy had seventy to two priors, but that's what

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Speaker 1: we expect from the media.

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Speaker 2: But you gave him credit.

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Speaker 1: At least ABC actually played Can you imagine the other

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Speaker 1: networks didn't even play this Mike, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Happy Thanksgiving. We'll see you then, Thanks Mike, Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Up next, we're going to talk about the seditious video

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Speaker 1: that happened and how the media is covering this, all

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Speaker 1: these senators and congressmen asking them to disobey command from

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Speaker 1: the armed services. That and more coming up on Media Exposed.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to Media Exposed.

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Speaker 2: There was this video last week put out.

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Speaker 1: By congressmen and centers on the Democratic side. Videos core

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Speaker 1: message was urging the military to ignore illegal orders. Puts

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Speaker 1: active duty troops in the middle of a partisan political fight,

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Speaker 1: something that breaks longstanding tradition civil military enorms. Just look

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Speaker 1: up preentive attempt to cast down on Trump led government,

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Speaker 1: suggesting he would issue unlawful commands before he's.

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Speaker 2: Even in office.

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Speaker 1: It's a dangerous rhetoric retorical move. Using the language of

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Speaker 1: resistance and insubordination to score political points has a real

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Speaker 1: consequence for the chain of command. The media coverage has

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Speaker 1: centered on Trump's angry response instead of the senators calling

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Speaker 1: on people to disobey the commander in chief. This is

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Speaker 1: unbeliev the media would take the wrong side obviously. Again,

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Speaker 1: the videos implication familitary, neutral reality, and national stability. This

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Speaker 1: is a sign of how far the partisan arms race

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Speaker 1: has gone when lawmakers openly appeal to troops to watch

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Speaker 1: out for their own government. Your threat teetering on a

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Speaker 1: very slippery slope. One of Welcome to my next guest,

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Speaker 1: David Zeer, hosts a breaking point on Real America's Voice News. David,

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Speaker 1: this video is having legs because now the Department of

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Speaker 1: Defense they're going to look into Senator Kelly. But let's

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Speaker 1: just show the audience your original clip here. Let's go

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Speaker 1: to cut six here.

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Speaker 6: You want to speak directly to members of the military

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Speaker 6: and the intelligence community who take risks each day to

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Speaker 6: keep Americans safe.

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Speaker 5: We know you are under enormous stress and pressure right now.

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Speaker 3: Americans trust their military, with that trust is at risk.

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Speaker 6: This administration is pitting our uniform military.

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Speaker 5: And intelligence community professionals.

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Speaker 6: Against American citizens like us. You all swore an oath.

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Speaker 7: To protect and defend this constitution.

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Speaker 16: Right now, threats to our constitution aren't just coming from

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Speaker 16: a broad but from right here at home.

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Speaker 6: Our laws are clear. You can refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 5: You can refuse illegal orders. You must refuse illegal orders.

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Speaker 10: No one has to carry out orders that violate the

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Speaker 10: law or our constitution.

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Speaker 6: We know this is hard and that it's a difficult

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Speaker 6: time to be a public servant.

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Speaker 5: But whether you're serving in the CIA, the Army, or Navy,

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Speaker 5: the Air.

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Speaker 6: Force, your vigilance is critical. And know that we have

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Speaker 6: your back because now more.

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Speaker 5: Than ever, the American people need you. We need you

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Speaker 5: to stand up.

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Speaker 16: For our laws, our constitution, and who we are as Americans.

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Speaker 6: Don't give up.

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Speaker 2: Don't give up. Don't give up.

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Speaker 5: Don't give up the.

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Speaker 1: Ship, David, this is so wrong that you then this

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Speaker 1: is a slick, slick produced video. So can't you say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we just made a little comment here. No, you produce

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Speaker 1: the slick video there production company and all giving sending

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Speaker 1: out messages to CIA and military to disobey the chain

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Speaker 1: of command. It's terrible to give that message in America,

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Speaker 1: especially when such ah the discourse is so harsh these days.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of that video?

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Speaker 15: Oh?

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Speaker 14: Well, first of all, I want to apologize it's loud

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Speaker 14: here this music or at the best page, dying to

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Speaker 14: do with a Thanksgiving special for real America's voice. But yeah,

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Speaker 14: this video, as Pete hag Seth posted on the AX

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Speaker 14: as made by the seditious six. They're despicable, reckless and

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Speaker 14: false allegations. Here encouraging our warriors to ignore the orders

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Speaker 14: of commanders, undermines every aspect of good order and discipline.

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Speaker 14: Their foolish screeds sows. It sows doubt and confusion. And

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Speaker 14: you know, somebody points it out the other day. You know,

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Speaker 14: these guys, if you're on the fence and maybe you're

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Speaker 14: politically opposed to President Trump and your servant in the military,

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Speaker 14: you know, if you speak out and don't follow orders,

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Speaker 14: you ruin your whole entire career. I mean, talk about insurrection.

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Speaker 14: And you know, it's just unbelievable. You can't imagine something

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Speaker 14: like this going on in America. Imagine Trump said that

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Speaker 14: under Biden, don't follow your orders, don't go into battle,

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Speaker 14: question everything they do. If the shoe was on the

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Speaker 14: other foot, there would be impeachment hearings again for Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Right, because if the media if a bunch of Republican

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Speaker 1: congressman conservative senators did that again while Biden or Obama

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Speaker 1: was president, Oh, the uproar would be for the media.

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Speaker 1: How dare you do this? How dare you undermine the president?

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Speaker 1: How dare you. You know, charges should be brought up.

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Speaker 2: But you know what the media did in this circumstance.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you this, David is unbelievable. It's

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Speaker 1: going to cut some of what Jake Tapper, who which

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Speaker 1: side did they take?

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Speaker 2: What's this?

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Speaker 18: President Trump's wildly inappropriate and potentially dangerous call for six

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Speaker 18: members of Congress to potentially be executed or hanged because

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Speaker 18: they issued a video reminding members of the military that

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Speaker 18: they do not have to carry out illegal orders glosses

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Speaker 18: over the fact because Trump's reaction was so out of

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Speaker 18: control that this issue of illegal orders is not a

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Speaker 18: new one. There's this new movie out starring Russell Crowe

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Speaker 18: called Nuremberg.

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Speaker 13: Do you believe President Trump has issued any illegal orders?

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Speaker 10: To my knowledge, I am not aware of things that

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Speaker 10: are illegal, but certainly there are some legal gymnastics that

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Speaker 10: are going on with these Caribbean strikes and everything related

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Speaker 10: to Venezuela.

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Speaker 14: It does imply that the president is having illegal orders,

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Speaker 14: which you have non seen.

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Speaker 10: I think for us it was just a statement widely, right,

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Speaker 10: I don't. I mean, look, you going back to Nuremberg,

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Speaker 10: right that, Well, they told me to do it. That's

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Speaker 10: why I murdered people is not an excuse. If you

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Speaker 10: look at popular culture, Lily, you watch a few good

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Speaker 10: men like we have plenty of examples since World War

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Speaker 10: Two in Vietnam where people were told to follow illegal

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Speaker 10: orders and they did it and we're prosecuted for it.

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Speaker 1: I give Martha Raddits a little bit of credit, David,

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Speaker 1: she did follow up there, not much credit because at

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Speaker 1: least locking, at least duck and said, no, he hasn't

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Speaker 1: done illegal or illegal not that I know of. She said,

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Speaker 1: he hasn't done the illegal orders. So why are you

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Speaker 1: making a video if he hasn't done anything illegal orders?

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Speaker 2: What gives you the right.

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Speaker 1: As a sitting senator with congressman and to make a

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Speaker 1: video like that. But you see what Jake Tapper did,

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Speaker 1: It was unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: He's he's going after Trump.

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Speaker 14: It's so disgusting, Adam. These people are the lowest form

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Speaker 14: of life here. And unfortunately, only Mark Kelly can be

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Speaker 14: brought up on charges like sedition by the Department of

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Speaker 14: War unless' slockin was in the CIA, But she's not

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Speaker 14: under the Department of War's jurisdiction, nor is the other four.

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Speaker 14: But you know the bottom line, is Trump is not

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Speaker 14: giving illegal orders out and if he does, the courts

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Speaker 14: will decide the fate of this and let Angress take

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Speaker 14: action if they think it's not legal. Right, So it's

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Speaker 14: all a meant, it's another lie. And to compare it

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Speaker 14: to Nuremberg for millions of Jews were killed and Christians

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Speaker 14: across Europe. I mean, these people have no bottom.

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Speaker 2: There's just no bottom.

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Speaker 1: But think about it, David, is how many one point

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Speaker 1: one million people in the military, right, thousands of CIA offices,

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Speaker 1: thousands of people in the FBI, DHS, Homeland Security. They

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Speaker 1: just got hired, right, they're learning their thoughts politically, they're

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Speaker 1: not really politically. They just want to serve the country.

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Speaker 1: And these senators are giving young military men in their

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Speaker 1: twenties lateeens even thoughts to disobey command. This is so

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Speaker 1: out of line that you know, there has to be

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Speaker 1: Maybe the others could be like censored or taken up

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Speaker 1: on Congressional ethics panel, but something should be done. They

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be allowed to do this, right, Yeah, it.

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Speaker 14: May it may come to that here. And you remember,

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Speaker 14: you know George Bush took out Manuel Noriega for his

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Speaker 14: role in drug running in the United States. So you know,

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Speaker 14: whether you agree or disagree with the Venezuela and strikes, again,

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Speaker 14: that's a that's a bigger issue to address and will

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Speaker 14: get addressed. It's not for somebody in uniform, uh, you know,

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Speaker 14: to you know, like a conscientious objector or whatever.

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Speaker 7: I mean.

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Speaker 14: These are these are you know, interdiction strikes against uh,

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Speaker 14: you know, a foreign enemy looking to kill Americans through

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Speaker 14: the drug trade and what Trump considers it to be terrorism.

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Speaker 14: But again, it's not for them to question it at

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Speaker 14: this time. And you know, let Congress take what the.

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Speaker 1: They want one of these pilots to be in mid

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Speaker 1: air and say and that's the only thing she said,

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Speaker 1: is these these flights, these bombs from the from above,

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Speaker 1: from the you know, the jets are questionable. But so

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Speaker 1: what do you want what are you putting your thoughts

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Speaker 1: out there to have a pilot question his command to

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Speaker 1: go blow up the boats.

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Speaker 2: That's what she basically did, right, Yeah, you know all

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Speaker 2: about this?

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Speaker 1: How about what if what if Pete Hegg said, sent

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Speaker 1: bunker Busters into the production company and shot bunk busters

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Speaker 1: after the senators. You think he'll drop a bunk of

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Speaker 1: punk a buster on all these congressmen.

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Speaker 2: I doubt it. Yeah, listen out.

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Speaker 14: On the bottom line is that they backtrack when they're

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Speaker 14: confronted on it. They know they can push the envelope,

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Speaker 14: they know the mainstream media is going to back them

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Speaker 14: up on what they're doing, and then they got a

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Speaker 14: soft pedal at back where it's knowing they did something rotten.

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Speaker 14: But it doesn't matter because that's what'll stick in Americans minds, right,

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Speaker 14: and Jake Tapper and all these other people. Even though

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Speaker 14: Joe Scarborough said that this behavior of the Democrats really

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Speaker 14: wasn't justified, you know so, just another athetic, disgusting attempt

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Speaker 14: to smear Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Even I saw that, even Scarborough called them out. If

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Speaker 1: you losing, if you'll lose in Morning Joe boy, you're

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Speaker 1: losing your base. That's like your hardcore base is the

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Speaker 1: Morning Joe, the ms ms NOW crowd formerly MSNBC. I

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Speaker 1: think they've switched to ms NOW by now. Hope that's

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Speaker 1: been So, what's going on at the diner over there?

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Speaker 1: David say, how's the uh my favorites Chicken slacke and

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Speaker 1: Pizzaburger Deluxe Hopefully if they make a good one.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, Well, the Greek Dina tradition on Long Island is here,

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Speaker 14: this dynasts here for seventy years, we met with real

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Speaker 14: American voices. Today, the hard working middle class of Long

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Speaker 14: Island people will commute into New York City, worried about

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Speaker 14: the financial sector, worried about the jobs as police officers

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Speaker 14: and firefighters under the memdani uh, the high cost of

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Speaker 14: living and other issues they face, you know, food costs

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Speaker 14: and everything else. Thanks and Holly, but everybody I spoke

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Speaker 14: to today and the Dina thinks that next year is

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Speaker 14: going to be a better economy, and so that was

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Speaker 14: good news and something.

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Speaker 7: Some things are looking up.

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Speaker 1: We should have long lived the diners. If people don't know,

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Speaker 1: Long Island and New Jersey have some of the best

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Speaker 1: diners imaginable.

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Speaker 2: So hopefully we can.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, well they're fleeting, Adam, The diners are fleeting. You know,

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Speaker 14: they can't These guys can't operate. The kids don't want

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Speaker 14: to take over the businesses, their insurances, how they can't

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Speaker 14: go with labor.

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Speaker 7: So it's a dying in.

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Speaker 1: Oh man, that's terrible. There's nothing like a great Dina.

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Speaker 1: You can order almost anything. And that's our next episode,

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Speaker 1: Long Lived David, Happy Thanksgiving enjoy the Dina, enjoy.

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Speaker 2: The flood and happy. How ready to see you? I

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Speaker 2: could see you up.

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Speaker 1: Last we got Samvel Carpitian, I mean NOURIK. Carpitian.

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Speaker 16: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Coming up, We're going to talk about his uncle's arrest.

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Speaker 1: That more coming up on Media Exposed. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: Media Exposed. A conservative Christian billion Armenia has been raided, arrested,

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Speaker 1: and jail for defending his church, yet US mainstream media

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Speaker 1: global media has rarely whispered a word if he were

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Speaker 1: a liberal billionaire pushing progressive causes to be wal to

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Speaker 1: wall coverage. I believe on all the networks, the Armenian

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Speaker 1: Prime Minister is attacking the Christian Church, jailing clergy, and

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Speaker 1: now attacking Carpedian, whose business accounts with seventy percent of

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Speaker 1: Armenia's GDP, all because he spoke out. Courts has said

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Speaker 1: the arrest was illegal, but he's still in prison as

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Speaker 1: the PM tries to seize his company, even moved to

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Speaker 1: overthrow the head of the church. This is a major

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Speaker 1: international religious freedom crisis. The media is flat out ignoring

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Speaker 1: the fact that a Christian tycoon is jail for defending

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Speaker 1: his church, and American networks won't touch it shows how

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Speaker 1: selective outrage in the press has become. If this were

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Speaker 1: a progressive billionaire pushing LGBTQ politics getting persecuted board the

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Speaker 1: same outlets ignornerstood will be treated as a global emergency.

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome his nephew, Neuric Carpitian for joining us.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about this issue and.

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Speaker 2: More Ic I've heard this. Prime Minister Nicole Pashinian.

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Speaker 1: Is really a progressive, right, he's really like taking the

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Speaker 1: you know, it took long enough. It took a one

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Speaker 1: hundred years for we finally get an apology for the

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Speaker 1: you know, the genocide against Armenian people from finally it

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Speaker 1: was you know, under abiding. We finally got an apology

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Speaker 1: after all these years, right, and now it seems like

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Speaker 1: the Prime Minister tell us about your uncle and he's

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Speaker 1: he's still being jail and what's going on over there,

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Speaker 1: Because until you came about it and I heard about it,

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Speaker 1: I didn't know about this. So tell us what's happening

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Speaker 1: and we can bring this message to the world.

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Speaker 2: Hopefully.

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Speaker 19: My uncle Samuel Grabidian is as you said, an Armenian

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Speaker 19: billionaire like major Armenion businessmen, one of the most well

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Speaker 19: known Armenian businessmen. And at the start of June, our

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Speaker 19: prime minister started like unbelievable attacks.

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Speaker 7: To our church and head of our church.

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Speaker 19: And after that, my uncle Samuel Gravidian started to defend

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Speaker 19: the church and the head of the church. And our

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Speaker 19: let's say, is a progressive prime minister became more authoritarian

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Speaker 19: and he started and he uh took to jail, ordered

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Speaker 19: took to jail to Samuel Crabidian for defending our church.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's just is this not known by the president?

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Speaker 1: Our president is just not no by the international community

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Speaker 1: what this prime minister is up to, because it seems

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Speaker 1: like such an injustice that's happening here. So why is

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Speaker 1: it not talked about more? Since I think Armenians are

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Speaker 1: always like not understood, not treated with the highest respect

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Speaker 1: that it should be treated. Then the Turks always get

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Speaker 1: more you know, Ertigon always gets more attention for some reason,

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Speaker 1: and he's the best, he's pushed in the Turks that

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Speaker 1: are always given more attention. Why is this that Armenians

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Speaker 1: are always underrepresented or not given enough attention?

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Speaker 19: You think, I think it's all about like the size

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Speaker 19: of the country, But we have a very huge culture.

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Speaker 19: We have one of the biggest heritages in this region.

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Speaker 19: We are here like two thousand years in the Our

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Speaker 19: region is in the middle of Europe and Middle East,

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Speaker 19: and we are in.

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Speaker 7: The center of all this mess.

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Speaker 19: In these two thousand years, we kept our religion and

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Speaker 19: now we have such a such a you know, changes

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Speaker 19: in our society. So some wines are coming that unacceptable

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Speaker 19: for us, for our society. Nobody accepted the attacks to church,

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Speaker 19: nobody accepted the critics that our prime minister is doing

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Speaker 19: to church, and nobody accept the unrespectful approach to our faith.

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Speaker 7: You know about Armenian Armenian nation. Armenian nation is having

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Speaker 7: a huge history.

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Speaker 19: But about the size, we have not a big size country.

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Speaker 7: We have like just three million people living here.

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Speaker 19: That's why it's not in international headlines.

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Speaker 1: Well Armenians were I mean, what what was it? Two

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Speaker 1: thirds of a kind? True, we're taken away right under

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Speaker 1: the words right and some people say the original Christians

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Speaker 1: what they Armenian am I right there?

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Speaker 7: You know, our church is very interesting.

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Speaker 19: It's something in the middle of Protestants, Catholic and Orthodox church.

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Speaker 19: So the interior in the church are as Hample as

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Speaker 19: Protestant churches the like faith, and the monks looks like

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Speaker 19: Orthodox priests. But the style of praying is like Catholic.

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Speaker 19: It's something, you know, it's showing some ecomenism. Our church

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Speaker 19: is very ecomenic, very hamble, and very you know, old

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Speaker 19: patient for this world. So we are praying the last

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Speaker 19: one thousand and six hundred years with the same words

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Speaker 19: and same you know missions that we have done like

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Speaker 19: hundreds of years, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I talked to I called a friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: I have a lot of Ourarmdians friends, and he eat beyond.

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Speaker 1: They always spend a simple thing. I an if you

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Speaker 1: guess if it's I n usually could be Persian. Most

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Speaker 1: of the time they are Armedians. She's a big fashion

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Speaker 1: designer and she knew this bad new prime minister is bad.

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Speaker 1: My mom talks about him all the time. He's really

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Speaker 1: going to the wrong people. He's getting paid off all

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Speaker 1: these things that you know that could be possible. So

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Speaker 1: you know, she taught a quick lesson here. So I

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Speaker 1: want to show you this cut here. It seems there's

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Speaker 1: a big rally. This just looks like there's a big

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Speaker 1: protest to get your uncle out of out of jail

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Speaker 1: here led by your family here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, in our capital.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, thousands of they went out and starting protesting in

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Speaker 19: our country because for our church and for some Garbetian

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Speaker 19: and they there is a slogan like there. Our way

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Speaker 19: is the word he was, is the sentence he used

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Speaker 19: and now is the is the face of Armenian opposition.

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Speaker 19: He is a face we are not involving like in politics,

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Speaker 19: but he is a face of Armenian opposition, the face

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Speaker 19: for freedom and our traditional you know, our traditional views.

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Speaker 1: So what is your uncle actually being putting in jail for?

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Speaker 1: He's being held house arrest or is in jail, no.

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Speaker 7: Actually charges, he's in jail.

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Speaker 19: So it's it's the KGB jail, the old old communists

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Speaker 19: jail and his five months is there for just saying

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Speaker 19: that Prime Minister must stop to attack.

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Speaker 7: Armenian Church and head of Armenian Church.

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Speaker 19: If he will not do that, we will uh look

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Speaker 19: approach handled the situation by our way and with this sentence.

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Speaker 7: He was taken to jail in six months, five.

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Speaker 19: Six months, he's there and it's unbelievable for our countries.

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Speaker 7: Unbelievable too.

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Speaker 19: Is the first case in our country that someone who

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Speaker 19: is in jail for just these worlds.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Armenians are such a free people too,

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Speaker 1: they're such independent artists, designers, great people. This seems like

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Speaker 1: bad Prime ministry have seems sort of like a dictator.

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Speaker 1: This seems like rather the playbooker the old communist Soviet Union,

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Speaker 1: And this is a bad thing.

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Speaker 2: What do we have to do next? What's the next process?

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Speaker 1: The next steps to help your uncle get out of jail?

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Speaker 19: Here, I think our politics needs to balance current prime minister.

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Speaker 19: Our country is a parliamentary country, so we need to

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Speaker 19: balance him. Our opposition needs to balance him, not to

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Speaker 19: let him become more authoritarian. Our society must show an

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Speaker 19: international all the players must show that it's unacceptable, unacceptable

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Speaker 19: to take to jail a person for like five six

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Speaker 19: months for nothing. And if we will do that, we

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Speaker 19: will avoid greater problems because the tyrants are when they start,

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Speaker 19: there are small tyrants.

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Speaker 7: You know, they are starting tyrants right and after uh

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Speaker 7: not having an some you.

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Speaker 19: Know, messages from the other countries, they became a big

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Speaker 19: and more problematically tyrants. What we need is the international

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Speaker 19: community to say the world and the Armenian community, the

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Speaker 19: Armenian Society we will say our world because our privatecy

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Speaker 19: is very unpopular as you know, as you said, and

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Speaker 19: our society will say his word, and we need the

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Speaker 19: international society supports too.

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Speaker 1: I think we need to get you over you're in

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Speaker 1: America and do a big protest rally in front of

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Speaker 1: the consulve on the embassy, in front of the UN

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Speaker 1: and bring awareness all across the globe. No better place

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Speaker 1: to do it here than America to fight this injustice.

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Speaker 1: I think that's happening towards your uncle. So hopefully you

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Speaker 1: can put that together. Do something magical here. Tell people

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Speaker 1: how they can find you or help this cause. If

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Speaker 1: there's a way, there's a website, tell the audience.

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Speaker 19: Yeah, it's my like we have a someone Capidia and

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Speaker 19: Facebook page where there is a my page and a

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Speaker 19: Facebook page and you can see there the whole processes

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Speaker 19: that are going on, protests that are going on in

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Speaker 19: Armenia for saving our traditional you know, fate our traditional values.

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Speaker 2: Direct want.

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for joining us, good luck

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