WEBVTT - How Lasers Work

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff you should know, a production of IHEARTRADIOW.

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<v Speaker 2>And welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh, and there's Chuck

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<v Speaker 2>and Jerry's here too. And she was making too many

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<v Speaker 2>laser noises, so we asked her to please go on

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<v Speaker 2>you because she did, and I assume she's still making

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<v Speaker 2>laser noises. We just can't hear right now.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a little attitude about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, she did. I mean, I was really mean and kurt,

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<v Speaker 2>but she didn't have to be that way back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is a one way street, right, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>My way or the highway.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's about time we did an episode on lasers.

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<v Speaker 1>This seems like something that we would have tackled in

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<v Speaker 1>those first formative in that first formative decade, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad we didn't because I think it's good to

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<v Speaker 2>still do like a traditional you know, how X works episode,

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<v Speaker 2>we should do one, And how X works it depends

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<v Speaker 2>on what kind of X you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Ruby used to give us an X when she was little,

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<v Speaker 1>when she was like two years old. If she didn't

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<v Speaker 1>like something, she would do her fingers as an X.

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<v Speaker 2>And she just keeps getting cooler and cooler.

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<v Speaker 1>She forgot that she lost that one along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>I told her to bring that back.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Uncle Josh likes it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like talk to the hand, but way better.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we're talking lasers today, not necessarily X.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we will do X someday. Let's find out, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>And everybody knows what a laser is, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I feel like it's one of the

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<v Speaker 1>more like one of those acronyms like scuba that you

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<v Speaker 1>learn when you're like on the playground. M hm. So

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, it stands for light amplification by stimulated

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<v Speaker 1>emission of radiation. And now that I know what a

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<v Speaker 1>laser is and how it works, they kind of nailed

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<v Speaker 1>it with that acronym they did.

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<v Speaker 2>You you can totally forgive them for the B and

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<v Speaker 2>the of because that's a world class acronym.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that would be lab sere if they included those

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<v Speaker 1>lasers so much cooler.

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<v Speaker 2>Lab se or doesn't. It doesn't have that same ring

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<v Speaker 2>to it as laser.

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<v Speaker 1>Throw me the lab se or gun.

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<v Speaker 2>That someone would say. No. So, lasers are everywhere everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>They're all around you. A lot of them are pointed

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<v Speaker 2>at you right now, you just can't see them. But

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<v Speaker 2>like a UPC code scanner at a supermarket checkout. They

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<v Speaker 2>still have supermarkets, right, Oh yeah, that's right. Everyone goes

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<v Speaker 2>in and empties all of their bank accounts into them

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<v Speaker 2>every week to get suesstenates. Well, when you check out,

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<v Speaker 2>boo boo boop like that, that's actually a laser being triggered.

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<v Speaker 2>You're scanning your UPC code. So lasers are everywhere. They're

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<v Speaker 2>at the supermarket. At least, that doesn't necessarily mean you

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<v Speaker 2>understand them. I didn't understand them until we started to

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<v Speaker 2>research this, did you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's really not that hard to wrap your head around.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually I was kind of dreading this. But Dave did

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<v Speaker 1>a great job with this article, sort of like you

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<v Speaker 1>here in the traditional sense, like you said, yep, And

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<v Speaker 1>he does a good job initially by sort of laying

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<v Speaker 1>the groundwork of regular light compared to a laser light.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that's a great way to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, if we're going to talk about lasers, we

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<v Speaker 2>really I mean, we're talking about light. We kind of

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<v Speaker 2>need to go back a couple of steps and say, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>there's different kinds of light, you know, like the light

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<v Speaker 2>we think of as sunlight or a light bulb or

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<v Speaker 2>something like that, what we would call generally white light

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<v Speaker 2>is as a lot of people know, all of the

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<v Speaker 2>colors of the spectrum, the visible light spectrum together coming

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<v Speaker 2>together to form white light.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, many different wavelengths. But just like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>elementary school science, when you get that prism and your

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<v Speaker 1>little mind is blown, it's still kind of blows my mind.

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<v Speaker 1>You scatter that light into its different wavelengths and it's

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<v Speaker 1>the colors of the rainbow there. But and this is

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<v Speaker 1>something that like I don't think I even realize this,

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<v Speaker 1>even those different wavelengths, it's not a single wavelengths. It's

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<v Speaker 1>still a spectrum of different wavelengths creating the red or

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<v Speaker 1>the blue or the yellow or whatever. And that's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of where we find ourselves, you know, departing in what

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<v Speaker 1>a laser ends at being.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because so for example, the yellow band, what we

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<v Speaker 2>see is yellow, and the visible spectrum occupies the five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seventy nanimeter to five hundred and ninety nanimeter range.

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<v Speaker 2>You show up below that, I think you've got what

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<v Speaker 2>red orange, something like that. ROYGBIV, Yeah, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>above that you've got blue Green, roy g Green, and

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<v Speaker 2>those just have different wave links. They're all electromagnetic light.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the same thing as a microwave. It's the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing as a radio wave. It's the same thing as

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<v Speaker 2>a gamma ray. It's just the different frequencies make them

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<v Speaker 2>different kinds of energy what we call the visible spectrum.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is is within all those different nanometer wavelengths,

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<v Speaker 2>say from five to seventy to five ninety, there's different

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of yellow. There's different shades of yellow right in

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<v Speaker 2>there across that the spectrum within the spectrum, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, spectrum within the spectrum. Also a great album title.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a great album title, Jeszisch. Maybe you could

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<v Speaker 2>have like a prism with a beam of light coming

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<v Speaker 2>in and then a rainbow coming out the other side.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is nineteen sixties for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pyramid even is a prism.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. With Isaac Kay's's head floating above it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm describing the Dark Side of the Moon album cover.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it's just kidding.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well you were really throwing me off, you were.

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<v Speaker 2>That was some meta joking right there.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great pressing of Dark Side of the

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<v Speaker 1>Moon by the way you do. Yeah, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>had a record press or a guy who does that

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<v Speaker 1>for a living. I was hanging out with him in

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<v Speaker 1>New York with our friend Joey Ciara and these two

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<v Speaker 1>guys who did that, and he said, yeah, some pressings

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<v Speaker 1>like it's done by a human, so you might have

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<v Speaker 1>some records that just sound really awesome because it was

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<v Speaker 1>well done. And I was like yeah, and they're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and eighty gram. He was like, that's all bunk,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. He's like, it just makes you feel

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<v Speaker 1>better that it's heavier, and I was like, oh man,

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<v Speaker 1>that's disappointing.

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<v Speaker 2>I do like the heft of a eighty gram.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently, they said, is that's all just for you to

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<v Speaker 1>make you think it is better because it's heavier.

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<v Speaker 2>It's heavier, so it's worth more.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. So back to lasers. What you just described

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<v Speaker 1>very well, by the way, was regular light wavelength within

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<v Speaker 1>the wavelength. If you talk about the differences of a

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<v Speaker 1>laser light, you're talking about three main differences, in the

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<v Speaker 1>first of which is that single wavelength it's monoc like

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<v Speaker 1>truly monochromatic. That beam of light that a laser is

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<v Speaker 1>or I guess you know, produces Well, no, it's what

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<v Speaker 1>it is is is just a very it's a single wavelength,

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<v Speaker 1>highly highly concentrated.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so rather than say a wavelength between five seventy

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<v Speaker 2>and five for being yellow, this is a five hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and seventy two nanometer wavelength that is that specific yellow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, and it's it's not it's made up entirely

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<v Speaker 2>of yellow light on the exact same wavelength. That is

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<v Speaker 2>incredibly important. That's a huge, huge difference. Lasers don't occur naturally.

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<v Speaker 2>We've figured out how to make them, and by we,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm including myself in you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. The second big difference between laser light and

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<v Speaker 1>regular light is that it's coherent. So not only is

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<v Speaker 1>it just a single wavelength, but the photons of the light,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to talk about where they come into

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<v Speaker 1>play here in a second. Thanks to mister Einstein or

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Einstein, the photons are perfectly in phase with one another.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you look at that wavelength, the peaks and

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<v Speaker 1>the troughs are all perfectly in sync.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and not like they're following the same plane and

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<v Speaker 2>they're just kind of in synct like that like, they're

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<v Speaker 2>upright above each other, right below each other. They're not

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<v Speaker 2>interfering with one another in any way whatsoever.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>And then the last one is that they're colimated, meaning

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<v Speaker 2>they're all traveling in the exact same direction.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's important. I mean culimated sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a fancy way of saying directional. But as we'll see,

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<v Speaker 1>they all have to be traveling that same direction to

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<v Speaker 1>pick up their little photon buddies.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So essentially what you've got is a very specific

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<v Speaker 2>kind of the exact same kind of light, none of

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<v Speaker 2>which are interfering with the other photons that are coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the laser, all of which are traveling in

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<v Speaker 2>the same direction, so they do not get in one

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<v Speaker 2>another's way, and they can be combined very very tightly.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's essentially what a laser does.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. And it all goes back to that

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<v Speaker 1>acronym stimulated emission, the SE and laser. You can't make

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<v Speaker 1>a laser without SE, that's true. You can't spell laser

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<v Speaker 1>without SE, and you can't have a laser without stimulated emission.

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<v Speaker 1>And our buddy Einstein is the guy who sort of

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<v Speaker 1>laid the theoretical groundwork. He didn't go out and build

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<v Speaker 1>a laser. That came later, but he laid the theoretical

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<v Speaker 1>groundwork for all of this back in the ridiculously in

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<v Speaker 1>the early nineteen hundreds.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so back in nineteen oh five, most people were like,

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<v Speaker 2>light's a continuous wave, and by proxy, the universe is

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<v Speaker 2>one smooth, continuous thing. In Einstein's like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>that's true. I think if you zoom in far enough,

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<v Speaker 2>close enough into the fabric of the universe, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see it's actually made of discrete, little little things

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<v Speaker 2>and call them pixels, right, And he's like, if that's true,

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<v Speaker 2>then light can't be one continuous wave either. So I

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<v Speaker 2>think they're actually made up of those little tiny packets

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm going to call photons. And he turned out

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<v Speaker 2>to be right. He had a great equation for it too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so elegantly simple. That's the thing about Einstein. He

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<v Speaker 2>could come up with like three different things and could

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<v Speaker 2>completely change our understanding of the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, this is the Planck Einstein, Einstein, what

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<v Speaker 1>just happened? I was concentrating so heavily. I'm not saying Plank.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard Plank I think that's how most people say.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I've always heard plank.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I've heard both, but most of the people I've

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<v Speaker 2>ever heard say plank. But I mean, I run in

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<v Speaker 2>pretty low brow crowds.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the probably the correctest plank, but most people

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<v Speaker 1>do say plank. You're right.

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<v Speaker 2>I like the way that you said it the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>The plank Einstein.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it says Einstein though. Yeah, the Plank Einstein relation,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the energy beach photon is equal to its

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<v Speaker 1>frequency times Plunk's constant e equals HF.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and all Plunk's constant is all it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>the smallest possible measurement of energy that anything can have

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<v Speaker 2>on like the quantum level. Right, And so Einstein was like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I want to figure out how all this stuff kind

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<v Speaker 2>of interacts because I know that photons interact with electrons.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just positive of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were figured that's pretty good. They were figuring out.

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<v Speaker 2>He was figuring out I think other people were at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time that when you have sub atomic particles

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<v Speaker 2>like an electron orbiting an atom, which if you go

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<v Speaker 2>listen to our periodic Table episode, I think we did

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty decent explanation of how you know that symbolism

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<v Speaker 2>or that visualization of it is not very correct. But

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<v Speaker 2>for all intents and purposes for this, let's say that

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<v Speaker 2>these electrons orbit in different orbits around the atom, and

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<v Speaker 2>when a photon hits it that orbit, that electron goes

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<v Speaker 2>up in energy I think for like one hundred nanoseconds typically, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it says, okay, I want to get back

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<v Speaker 2>to my resting state it's ground state, and it goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to its previous orbital But when it does, it

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<v Speaker 2>poops out a photon.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's funny? What as earlier when I was

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<v Speaker 1>going over there in my head, I said, poops out

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<v Speaker 1>of photon.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I mean you and I we share a brain

0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:54.959
<v Speaker 2>when it comes to toilet humor.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's exactly right. So an atom

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<v Speaker 1>is going to absorb that energy, and it can do

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<v Speaker 1>that in a lot of ways, but let's just say

0:12:02.360 --> 0:12:04.440
<v Speaker 1>in this case, it's like some it gets heated up,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like literally heated up. Those electrons are going

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<v Speaker 1>to jump around and get excited. But once they that

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<v Speaker 1>makes it unstable. But it wants to be stable. So

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<v Speaker 1>when it goes back to that state. You're right, it

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<v Speaker 1>poops out that photon. Einstein saw this, called it spontaneous emission. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and this happens all the time all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>in nature. These photons are getting pooped out all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. But Einstein was like, well, hey, if it

0:12:31.360 --> 0:12:34.840
<v Speaker 1>happens all the time naturally, he theorized, maybe we can

0:12:35.440 --> 0:12:37.360
<v Speaker 1>we can stimulate it to do this. Maybe we can

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<v Speaker 1>make this happen and control that emission.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Because here's the thing, right, Like you say you

0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.439
<v Speaker 2>have a photon that hits an atom and knocks an

0:12:46.440 --> 0:12:49.560
<v Speaker 2>electron into the higher energy state, then that electron poops

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<v Speaker 2>out a photon. Well, that electron is just absorbed the photon.

0:12:53.160 --> 0:12:55.080
<v Speaker 2>So another way of looking at it is the photon

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<v Speaker 2>essentially goes into the electron and comes back out the

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<v Speaker 2>other side kind of, but there's only one photon ever,

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<v Speaker 2>one gets absorbed, one's produced. What Einstein figured out is

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<v Speaker 2>with stimulated emission, you can use a photon to create

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<v Speaker 2>another photon without losing the first photon. And if you

0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.840
<v Speaker 2>do that a bunch of times, buddy, you can have like, oh,

0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:19.800
<v Speaker 2>like you could make a basket with your shirt and

0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:20.800
<v Speaker 2>fill it with photons.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do it, right, Yeah, I mean he realized

0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.520
<v Speaker 1>that photons like to hang out with one another, so

0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:29.920
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't take a lot to get them, you know,

0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:32.760
<v Speaker 1>traveling in a direction and saying, hey, buddy, come with me,

0:13:33.360 --> 0:13:35.880
<v Speaker 1>and it creates this sort of sort of like a snowball,

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<v Speaker 1>like a cascading effect where if you can get them

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<v Speaker 1>in an excited state and stimulate them and have them

0:13:44.520 --> 0:13:46.760
<v Speaker 1>pick up other photons and have them all travel in

0:13:46.800 --> 0:13:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the same direction, you're like halfway toward laser town pretty much.

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<v Speaker 2>You can see the outskirts of town and the light

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<v Speaker 2>shooting up in the sky.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you can.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So that's stimulated emission. And the key here

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<v Speaker 2>is you don't have to spend a photon to get

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<v Speaker 2>a photon, right, You can excite the atom in other

0:14:08.240 --> 0:14:11.000
<v Speaker 2>ways as long as it's already in its excited state.

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<v Speaker 2>When the photon comes along, it's going to produce another photon. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>for the purposes of lasers, what's really really important here

0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.520
<v Speaker 2>is it is going to produce an exactly identical photon

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<v Speaker 2>as the first one that passes by, right, traveling in

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<v Speaker 2>the same direction, and it's not going to interfere with

0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:33.000
<v Speaker 2>the first one. So they're cohesive, and they're collimated, and

0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.480
<v Speaker 2>they're exactly the same. They're monochromatic, which, as we said before,

0:14:36.880 --> 0:14:39.000
<v Speaker 2>those are the things you need for a laser. So

0:14:39.200 --> 0:14:43.000
<v Speaker 2>Einstein figured out back in nineteen seventeen how to make

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<v Speaker 2>a laser, and it was like, you, guys, figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to think about some other stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And if you say, well, wait a minute, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought you said nineteen oh five, like it even took

0:14:52.240 --> 0:14:54.400
<v Speaker 1>Ein Einstein a little while to get there, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, took a little while. So should we take

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<v Speaker 1>a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like a break is imminent.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back with more lasers, all right. So

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<v Speaker 1>when we left, Einstein did some great work kind of

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<v Speaker 1>laying the groundwork, this theoretical foundation of a laser. And

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<v Speaker 1>then he was like, guys, I like to think of

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<v Speaker 1>things with my brain and say them out loud and

0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:40.960
<v Speaker 1>write them on chalkboards. If you want to build this thing, fine,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe slide me some cash. But I don't do that

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<v Speaker 1>kind of work. So people did though, that followed in

0:15:48.520 --> 0:15:50.480
<v Speaker 1>his footsteps, and in the nineteenth fifties it was a

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<v Speaker 1>physicist named Charles Towns. He worked at Bell Labs and

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<v Speaker 1>he was doing research on microwaves microwave radiation, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was trying to He didn't know it yet, but he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was halfway to laser town because he was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to find ways to concentrate a beam of microwaves.

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<v Speaker 2>In this case, what's nuts is this guy figured it out.

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<v Speaker 2>He just basically tinkered around and made his own version

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<v Speaker 2>of a laser. But rather than using light, he used

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<v Speaker 2>microwave beams. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he built like a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he just he used ammonia adams. He put him

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<v Speaker 2>in a sealed chamber and he got them to essentially

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<v Speaker 2>emit microwave radiation that he was able to concentrate into

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<v Speaker 2>a beam. Right, So that cascading effect happened just like

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<v Speaker 2>we discussed before, and essentially the only difference is it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't a light, it was a microwave beam. And to

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<v Speaker 2>test it, he aimed it at the front pocket of

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<v Speaker 2>a passing colleague, Percy Spencer, who happened to have a

0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.560
<v Speaker 2>chocolate bar in the front pocket, and he melted it and

0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Percy Spencer never forgave him because that was his favorite

0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:03.880
<v Speaker 2>short sleeve, button down shirt.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we talked about this, did we do one

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<v Speaker 1>of microwaves. Yeah, okay, well that would be exactly where

0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.000
<v Speaker 1>we talked about it then, probably.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they weren't colleagues. I just made that part up.

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<v Speaker 2>But that was a that was for you, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, wait, there was a chocolate thing though, what right?

0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that happened. But separately, I think Spencer

0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.280
<v Speaker 2>was in the presence of some microwave generator and his

0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:27.320
<v Speaker 2>chocolate bar melted. And now that went on to invent microwaves.

0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:30.199
<v Speaker 2>This thing was totally different. It's just yeah, it just

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<v Speaker 2>brought Percy Spencer to mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I like it. So he literally called this a mazer,

0:17:37.400 --> 0:17:42.520
<v Speaker 1>a microwave amplified stimulated emission of radiation. He teamed up

0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:45.120
<v Speaker 1>with a guy. It was a colleague named Arthur Shallow,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said, let me see if we can do

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing with light, and we'll call it an

0:17:50.440 --> 0:17:54.800
<v Speaker 1>optical maser. And everyone was like, buddy, it's right there

0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:58.320
<v Speaker 1>in front of your face, like, come on, just get there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was theor myman I like to call

0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:06.720
<v Speaker 2>him my man who actually came up with the laser.

0:18:07.400 --> 0:18:11.040
<v Speaker 2>He built the first functional laser in nineteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty and came up with a name.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he did Okay. Up to this point, they

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<v Speaker 2>were all theoretical and my man was the first one

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<v Speaker 2>to actually build one, and he used a ruby crystal,

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<v Speaker 2>which at the time I think had already been dismissed.

0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.040
<v Speaker 2>People were like, you can't use that to make a laser.

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<v Speaker 2>And he's like, let me try again, and he did

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<v Speaker 2>some more calculations. He's like, the ruby's actually going to

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<v Speaker 2>be great. So he used a pink ruby crystal as

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<v Speaker 2>what's called the gain medium.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's like the material lasing material that you would

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<v Speaker 1>use exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where the atoms that you get excited are all stored.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So he surrounded that crystal with a with a flash.

0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.520
<v Speaker 1>It was a coil shaped flash bulb. So that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the thing that you know, the heat

0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:01.600
<v Speaker 1>or whatever or the light that stimulates the initial reactions

0:19:02.080 --> 0:19:06.239
<v Speaker 1>the pump. Sure, and then the two ends of that

0:19:06.280 --> 0:19:09.520
<v Speaker 1>crystal were painted reflective silver. So everything is sort of

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.440
<v Speaker 1>kind of trapped in there together, encouraging all those photons

0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.119
<v Speaker 1>to bounce around and get a little wild and create

0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:19.200
<v Speaker 1>more photons and say, hey, you know we're doing something here,

0:19:19.240 --> 0:19:20.520
<v Speaker 1>guys and all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all of these photons came out at six hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and ninety four nanometers, which I guess is the precise

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<v Speaker 2>wavelength of ruby red.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess so.

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<v Speaker 2>And he showed that like there, there, here's a laser.

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<v Speaker 2>Check it out. Let me see your face. Basically, I

0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:36.240
<v Speaker 2>think was how he showed it off right. He would

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<v Speaker 2>just wave it in people's faces.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why he's my man.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was it. I mean, that was the first

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<v Speaker 2>laser that and it was what you want to say,

0:19:46.480 --> 0:19:48.800
<v Speaker 2>like it was as easy as that. Of course that's

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<v Speaker 2>not easy, but the principle of it is kind of

0:19:52.480 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 2>like you said, it's simple to understand, which is great.

0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:58.000
<v Speaker 2>Like we did one on the breathalyzer, and it is

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<v Speaker 2>so ridiculously complicated. It's more complicated than a laser by far.

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<v Speaker 1>I hated that one.

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<v Speaker 2>I did too.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a long period of time ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember we picked it, we started researching, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was like.

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<v Speaker 1>This sucks.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, why am I not understanding this? It was just

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<v Speaker 2>so complex. Let's never talk about it again.

0:20:16.480 --> 0:20:18.480
<v Speaker 1>I think we just wanted the explanation to be like

0:20:18.800 --> 0:20:21.920
<v Speaker 1>blow into tube smells beer exactly.

0:20:22.040 --> 0:20:23.960
<v Speaker 2>You just make a bunch of like drunk jokes.

0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:27.760
<v Speaker 1>Exactly, all right, So that that was the first laser,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you said, he use that ruby to begin with.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are all sorts of gain mediums. There can

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<v Speaker 1>be liquids, there can be gases, and we should probably

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<v Speaker 1>go over the five main types of laser now, starting

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<v Speaker 1>with like if you've ever been for tattoo removal or

0:20:45.520 --> 0:20:48.800
<v Speaker 1>like had a skin cancer with laser removal, they're using

0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.720
<v Speaker 1>a solid state laser in that case, and it's called

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:54.960
<v Speaker 1>solid state because they're using a solid crystal or a

0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:57.359
<v Speaker 1>glass or something like that. Mix it up with a

0:20:57.359 --> 0:21:01.879
<v Speaker 1>little with a gain medium like well, it's they're all

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:07.360
<v Speaker 1>rare earth elements like chromium or something like that. Neodymium

0:21:07.440 --> 0:21:08.760
<v Speaker 1>is that one.

0:21:09.000 --> 0:21:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's also a bitterum you abitterum man I even

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.760
<v Speaker 2>looked it up, udbium atbium.

0:21:17.440 --> 0:21:20.040
<v Speaker 1>Aterbium I betze, right, that's a that's why that looks funny.

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:22.840
<v Speaker 2>It is great though, why t t E r b

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<v Speaker 2>I U m yatterbium I got it And all of

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<v Speaker 2>those Basically they dope that say, like you could still

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<v Speaker 2>use ruby, but you would create like a ruby crystal

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<v Speaker 2>that's doped with these impurities that you've selected based on

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:42.120
<v Speaker 2>their say like reflective properties, or they're phosphorescent properties. These

0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:46.320
<v Speaker 2>things can generate some photons really efficiently, and they're going

0:21:46.400 --> 0:21:50.160
<v Speaker 2>to generate them in exactly the wavelength that you want. Yeah,

0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a solid state laser. I follows in the tradition

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.359
<v Speaker 2>of that original Mamayan's laser from nineteen sixty.

0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:58.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, Emily knows not much about football, doesn't care,

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:00.919
<v Speaker 1>but there's always a few plays that she knows of,

0:22:01.040 --> 0:22:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and it's always very funny. Patrick Mahomes is one of them,

0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.600
<v Speaker 1>and every time she'd hears of him or anything, she

0:22:09.720 --> 0:22:13.480
<v Speaker 1>just goes my homes very nice, sort of like my man.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, I'm with you. That's a great way to

0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:16.960
<v Speaker 2>say it. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing I wanted to point out though about these

0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.960
<v Speaker 1>different types of blazers is all of them are that

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:25.600
<v Speaker 1>they use different types of blazers according to whatever application

0:22:25.640 --> 0:22:28.480
<v Speaker 1>they want to use it for. So it's not just like, hey,

0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:31.960
<v Speaker 1>these are cool, let's use let's use this crystal with

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.719
<v Speaker 1>this doping agent because we just think it sounds awesome.

0:22:36.000 --> 0:22:38.199
<v Speaker 1>It's all highly specific to what you want to end

0:22:38.280 --> 0:22:38.960
<v Speaker 1>up using it for.

0:22:39.800 --> 0:22:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like even like tattoo removal you said, which I'm

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<v Speaker 2>in the process of I'm getting towards the end there, buddy.

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<v Speaker 1>How's it looking pretty gone?

0:22:47.240 --> 0:22:49.480
<v Speaker 2>Pretty light? Yeah? It start? Yeah, I mean you can

0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:51.399
<v Speaker 2>still see it, especially if you walk up to it,

0:22:51.440 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 2>but you could also miss it if you weren't looking

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:56.440
<v Speaker 2>for it's getting like that, Just like while that guy's

0:22:56.480 --> 0:22:57.960
<v Speaker 2>got mildew on his arm.

0:22:58.480 --> 0:23:00.520
<v Speaker 1>I took the other tack. As you have seen recently

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<v Speaker 1>when we were on tour, I had a probably two

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<v Speaker 1>inch by two inch tattoo that I covered with half

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>of an arm sleeve.

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:09.280
<v Speaker 2>I didn't see it. You haven't shown it to me? Oh?

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:11.159
<v Speaker 1>How was was I always in long sleeves?

0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And I forgot to ask. I actually thought about

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:16.000
<v Speaker 2>that when we were researching this. I was like, I

0:23:16.040 --> 0:23:17.240
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen chucks do tattoo.

0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, i'll I'll take my shirt off in front of

0:23:19.720 --> 0:23:20.040
<v Speaker 1>you soon.

0:23:20.440 --> 0:23:24.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay. But even with the tattoo removal ones. They have

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:30.680
<v Speaker 2>different types of solid state lasers. The gain medium is different. Right.

0:23:31.119 --> 0:23:37.240
<v Speaker 2>There's one called the n d YAG laser. Yeah, that's

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:43.200
<v Speaker 2>a really common one. Neodymium doped yetrium. Yeah, aluminum garnet.

0:23:43.880 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the gain medium. And that's for I don't remember

0:23:48.280 --> 0:23:51.320
<v Speaker 2>what that one's for I think different color like regular

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:54.199
<v Speaker 2>color tattoos, whereas like if it's green, to use a

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:56.200
<v Speaker 2>different kind of in gain medium.

0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:23:56.520 --> 0:23:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it is extremely specific.

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:01.680
<v Speaker 1>All right, well, can we move on to gas lasers.

0:24:02.000 --> 0:24:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it's time. Yeah.

0:24:03.160 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>So obviously they're going to use gases or gain medium.

0:24:06.119 --> 0:24:09.879
<v Speaker 1>It could be a carbon dioxide laser, it could be argne,

0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.760
<v Speaker 1>could be crypton if you're really into comic books. And

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 1>these are different than solid state layers. Obviously, in solid

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>state the atoms are excited by a light source. In

0:24:21.640 --> 0:24:23.760
<v Speaker 1>this case, it's an electrical current, and it's going to

0:24:23.800 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>get them going.

0:24:25.119 --> 0:24:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it gets them excited. There's all sorts of stuff

0:24:29.080 --> 0:24:31.560
<v Speaker 2>you can use with gas lasers, but probably one of

0:24:31.280 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the most famous one is using a carbon dioxide as

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the gain medium, and those things can get those photons going.

0:24:39.119 --> 0:24:45.040
<v Speaker 2>You can weld with it. That's how powerful these lasers can.

0:24:45.200 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 2>You can weld metal with that stuff. And then at

0:24:47.960 --> 0:24:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the same time, if you use a different gas, you

0:24:51.040 --> 0:24:54.119
<v Speaker 2>might have a eximer laser. You can actually break the

0:24:54.200 --> 0:24:57.240
<v Speaker 2>bonds that hold molecules together. You can alter cells, you

0:24:57.240 --> 0:25:01.440
<v Speaker 2>can destroy tissue. But it uses UV lights, so it

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:04.080
<v Speaker 2>doesn't produce heat. So that's how you can use that

0:25:04.119 --> 0:25:07.240
<v Speaker 2>on someone's skin without burning them, but still say removing

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:10.320
<v Speaker 2>like a squamous cell or something.

0:25:10.680 --> 0:25:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or if you've ever heard of something being laser cut,

0:25:14.200 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>then it's probably going to be a gas laser doing

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:16.960
<v Speaker 1>that business.

0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, hopefully that you didn't hear about that from a

0:25:19.840 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 2>squama cell being removed.

0:25:21.640 --> 0:25:21.840
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:25:22.920 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 2>There's also fiber lasers. These are very special lasers. I

0:25:27.000 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 2>don't know how they found this out, but scientists concluded

0:25:30.240 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that the cloaks usually or the textiles found with bog bodies,

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:38.520
<v Speaker 2>have some sort of magical properties that if you use

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.840
<v Speaker 2>them as a gain medium, they make really great lasers.

0:25:42.080 --> 0:25:43.240
<v Speaker 2>Hence fiber lasers.

0:25:43.800 --> 0:25:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, But in this case they're used in conjunction with

0:25:47.119 --> 0:25:50.119
<v Speaker 1>a fiber optic cable. And so these are obviously have

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.920
<v Speaker 1>long been used in telecommunications and stuff like that. And

0:25:54.480 --> 0:25:57.719
<v Speaker 1>because they are used in conjunction with an actual cable,

0:25:58.359 --> 0:26:02.320
<v Speaker 1>they're very very efficient. Convert more than fifty percent of

0:26:02.359 --> 0:26:09.359
<v Speaker 1>the electricity that's input into light. But that d YAG

0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:12.120
<v Speaker 1>laser has about a three percent efficiency rate.

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:16.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty efficient. That's another way that lasers are

0:26:16.600 --> 0:26:21.119
<v Speaker 2>part of your everyday life. If you have fiber Internet,

0:26:21.880 --> 0:26:24.000
<v Speaker 2>like you have a laser on one end that your

0:26:24.040 --> 0:26:31.040
<v Speaker 2>ISP is using to send communications or encoded information along

0:26:31.040 --> 0:26:33.560
<v Speaker 2>a fiber optic cable, and your modem is basically a

0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:37.560
<v Speaker 2>laser receiver that translates it into whatever your router needs

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 2>to explain it to you.

0:26:39.200 --> 0:26:42.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that man, that breaks my brain like vinyl records,

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:44.359
<v Speaker 1>does you know?

0:26:44.920 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? It's pretty cool though, And that's the thing. So

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.439
<v Speaker 2>it's just like when radio with radio waves, we figured

0:26:51.440 --> 0:26:54.359
<v Speaker 2>out how to encode information, and radio waves we figured

0:26:54.359 --> 0:26:56.920
<v Speaker 2>out how to do that with light. It's just lasers

0:26:56.960 --> 0:27:00.199
<v Speaker 2>are way more efficient. They can travel way longer than

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.720
<v Speaker 2>radio waves can. And apparently they're starting to look into

0:27:03.760 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>this to transmit information between the Earth and the Moon. Well, boy,

0:27:09.800 --> 0:27:12.879
<v Speaker 2>so you'll just be able to you'll have basically not

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.520
<v Speaker 2>even fiber optic Internet, you'll have laser Internet on the moon.

0:27:17.560 --> 0:27:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I thought. I think that's wow too. Yeah, what about

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.560
<v Speaker 2>liquid lasers or die lasers? I should probably say, because

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>you played that so straight, my explanation of what the

0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:30.400
<v Speaker 2>gain medium is for fiber lasers that I just made

0:27:30.400 --> 0:27:30.719
<v Speaker 2>that up.

0:27:30.760 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Everybody, Oh, I fall victim again.

0:27:36.480 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Did you thought that they used the cloaks from bog

0:27:39.400 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 2>bodies for that.

0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 1>Man, I don't all of this stuff is so brain breaking.

0:27:43.400 --> 0:27:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Nothing nothing. Would You could say human feces and I'd

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 1>be like, yeah, of.

0:27:46.560 --> 0:27:49.359
<v Speaker 2>Course that'd be man, that'd be gross. But I'll bet

0:27:49.440 --> 0:27:52.720
<v Speaker 2>you could. I think you could use anything with atoms

0:27:52.760 --> 0:27:55.240
<v Speaker 2>that's excitable to potentially make a laser.

0:27:55.440 --> 0:27:57.919
<v Speaker 1>You've become such a good straight person that it's just

0:27:58.040 --> 0:27:59.120
<v Speaker 1>hard to tell anymore.

0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.480
<v Speaker 2>It's hard to tell with you too, Hey, thanks, Yeah,

0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 2>thank you. Uh.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Liquid lasers or dye lasers, these are sort of brain

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:09.960
<v Speaker 1>breaking to these organic dyes as the gain medium, which

0:28:10.000 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is kind of crazy to think about. But each die,

0:28:12.359 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>like uh, will produce a different laser light because they're

0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>going to have, you know, because it's a color, like

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:17.800
<v Speaker 1>a different wavelength.

0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And these are really cool because you can actually tune

0:28:20.720 --> 0:28:23.440
<v Speaker 1>them to a very you can manipulate them and tune

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.520
<v Speaker 1>them within a very specific range for specific uses.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So one laser can be used for all sorts

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 2>of different things, which is I'm sure quite cost efficient.

0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:33.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 2>I think that's one of the downsides of solid state lasers.

0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 2>It's like one thing you can be with one laser.

0:28:39.320 --> 0:28:40.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Although That.

0:28:40.880 --> 0:28:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Would be cool if like it's just a cartridge you

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 2>can pop out and put in a new a new crystal. Yeah,

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:46.480
<v Speaker 2>that'd be sweet.

0:28:46.600 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>They should work on that.

0:28:48.360 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 2>They have to be, you know, like the cost of

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:54.840
<v Speaker 2>lasers have come down tremendously. I'm sure we'll eventually get there.

0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just ask my cat, my cats with an us.

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, let's talk about but that. We're kind of at

0:29:01.000 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 2>that point. Do you play with your cats with laser pointers? No?

0:29:05.040 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 1>I have, but they always get lost because they're always small.

0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Oh gotcha? Gotcha? Well that is actually a kind of laser.

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.680
<v Speaker 2>That's why they call them laser pointers. They're the weakest laser.

0:29:16.840 --> 0:29:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:20.640
<v Speaker 2>But they use diodes, which are two different materials that

0:29:20.680 --> 0:29:23.240
<v Speaker 2>when you put them together with a place where they interface,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:27.400
<v Speaker 2>creates an electron exchange and hence a flow of electrons

0:29:27.440 --> 0:29:30.360
<v Speaker 2>and that creates electricity. So that's what these things are

0:29:30.360 --> 0:29:34.600
<v Speaker 2>powered by. This is the way that the light. Photons

0:29:34.640 --> 0:29:38.360
<v Speaker 2>get made from the excited atoms, and they're super cheap.

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.560
<v Speaker 2>They're not very powerful, and that means that over a

0:29:41.600 --> 0:29:44.960
<v Speaker 2>fairly short distance I think like hundreds of meters, they

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:48.680
<v Speaker 2>basically they're not a tiny point any longer Yeah, And

0:29:48.760 --> 0:29:51.560
<v Speaker 2>I was looking into this because when I hear laser pointers,

0:29:51.600 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>I think of jerks like trying to shine in the

0:29:53.800 --> 0:29:55.000
<v Speaker 2>light of an airline pilot.

0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:29:55.400 --> 0:29:58.120
<v Speaker 2>Sure, that's a real problem. Actually, I think it happens

0:29:58.160 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>a couple thousand times a year in the US alone.

0:30:00.560 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, concerts too, people do that stuff.

0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Sure. The reason you're not supposed to do that with

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:08.520
<v Speaker 2>airline pilots is because by the time it reaches the cockpit,

0:30:08.880 --> 0:30:11.200
<v Speaker 2>it has spread out so much that it's so man

0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it's like a huge ball of light. Yeah, that is

0:30:14.040 --> 0:30:16.320
<v Speaker 2>so bright in the cockpit that they can't even see

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>the instruments anymore.

0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>So it's not like you're just putting like a little

0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 2>dot on somebody's cheek. You are blinding everybody in the cockpit. Right.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Then it's a huge problem that you really should not do.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And also, what's funny about messing with someone doing

0:30:31.000 --> 0:30:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a very important, dangerous job where hundreds and hundreds of

0:30:34.520 --> 0:30:37.320
<v Speaker 1>lives are at stake. Yeah, let's mess with that person.

0:30:37.680 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes, and I think everyone's parents should sit them down

0:30:40.920 --> 0:30:43.760
<v Speaker 2>and say, yeah, let's talk about laser pointers, because you

0:30:43.800 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 2>probably aren't grasping what a problem this is.

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Agreed. Well, that's a weak one. Those diode lasers are

0:30:50.200 --> 0:30:55.480
<v Speaker 1>semiconductor lasers. But since the very beginning, science has tried

0:30:55.520 --> 0:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to make the more powerful lasers and they have a

0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:01.960
<v Speaker 1>pretty great job at it. We'll go over some of these.

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>But you measure in a laser by how quickly that

0:31:06.920 --> 0:31:10.000
<v Speaker 1>laser is emitting the energy, so it's jewels of energy

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 1>emitted per second. They measure that in watts, and they

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.280
<v Speaker 1>figured out pretty early on that a continuous beam of

0:31:18.360 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>light emits a constant amount of energy over time. So

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:24.240
<v Speaker 1>they were like, hey, I bet we can make these

0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:28.280
<v Speaker 1>even more powerful if we cut that off very quickly,

0:31:28.400 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 1>over and over and over and admit pulses of energy

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:34.440
<v Speaker 1>because it builds up and it just gets stronger and stronger.

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:36.640
<v Speaker 1>And they tried it out and it really worked.

0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pulse lasers right, because, like you said, a traditional laser,

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 2>it's the same amount of energy the whole time the

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>beam is on the pulse laser, it's kind of like

0:31:45.880 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 2>stopping up the uh, the beam of light, so that

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.680
<v Speaker 2>it just the energy builds up behind it and then

0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 2>you open it up again and when you release it,

0:31:53.760 --> 0:31:59.440
<v Speaker 2>it's this ultra concentrated beam of energy, and it's it's

0:31:59.560 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>mind by uggling. How fast this happens so fast that

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:06.080
<v Speaker 2>your puny brain just sees it as one constant beam

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.480
<v Speaker 2>of light. Yeah, we don't have the technology to slow

0:32:09.520 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 2>it down enough. I don't think to see the pulsing

0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:17.600
<v Speaker 2>because we're talking billions, trillions, quadrillions, quintillions of a second.

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:20.240
<v Speaker 2>How frequently those the thing is pulsing.

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's incredible. I think they first demonstrated that in

0:32:24.640 --> 0:32:29.040
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty one with that Ruby laser, and I think

0:32:29.040 --> 0:32:32.000
<v Speaker 1>they ended up with one hundred nanosecond burst in nineteen

0:32:32.040 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 1>sixty one, which is pretty impressive.

0:32:33.480 --> 0:32:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure, because a nanosecond is a billionth of

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:36.560
<v Speaker 2>a second.

0:32:37.040 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so in nineteen sixty one they were able to

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:42.120
<v Speaker 1>get that first laser by pulsing it up to one

0:32:42.160 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 1>thousand times more powerful than my man's device.

0:32:46.560 --> 0:32:51.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. This was a year after he built that first laser, right, Yeah,

0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:53.840
<v Speaker 2>So I think that was when you say one hundred

0:32:53.920 --> 0:32:56.800
<v Speaker 2>nanosecond bursts. I saw that. With the tech that they're

0:32:56.880 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>using now, nanosecond pulses are called giant pulses. Yeah, seriously,

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>that's what they consider them.

0:33:03.800 --> 0:33:06.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and those are quintillions of a second, which is

0:33:06.160 --> 0:33:07.960
<v Speaker 1>hard to even wrap your head around for sure.

0:33:08.160 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, So these things, these pulses are just like that's

0:33:11.120 --> 0:33:13.960
<v Speaker 2>it also, Chuck, I think goes to show you how

0:33:14.080 --> 0:33:18.000
<v Speaker 2>quickly energy builds up in the chamber that where the

0:33:18.040 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 2>beam is released from that it's it's like creating a

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>thousand times or ten thousand times or however many times

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:28.720
<v Speaker 2>stronger beam just from backing it up in like one

0:33:29.200 --> 0:33:35.000
<v Speaker 2>quintillionth of a second. Yeah, sure, you want to take

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:35.479
<v Speaker 2>a break.

0:33:36.000 --> 0:33:37.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's take a break, and let's talk about just

0:33:38.240 --> 0:33:40.680
<v Speaker 1>sort of real world uses and what's going on out there.

0:33:40.880 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So, Chuck, there's some there's some lasers that are

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 2>just super powerful that are being built right now. Of course,

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:11.200
<v Speaker 2>physicists are like, let's see how powerful we can make something.

0:34:11.360 --> 0:34:15.320
<v Speaker 2>There's one at the University of Michigan called zeus Zetiwa

0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:19.439
<v Speaker 2>Equivalent Ultra Short Pulse Laser System. And then there's one

0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.160
<v Speaker 2>in the UK that's being built called the Vulcan Laser.

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:25.879
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and these, I mean, the one in the UK

0:34:26.080 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 1>has a power of five hundred million forty what light bulbs,

0:34:31.360 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>well forty well, yeah, that's true, that's not much. And

0:34:35.400 --> 0:34:39.080
<v Speaker 1>the Zeus can generate a pulse of light that's twenty

0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:41.400
<v Speaker 1>five quintillions of a second long.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:45.760
<v Speaker 2>And so but wait, how much energy does it release?

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Three petawats baby, which is one hundred times the total

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:54.520
<v Speaker 1>electrical output of the entire world in one quick burst.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>So these things are they're like, they're so powerful and

0:35:01.480 --> 0:35:04.640
<v Speaker 2>energetic that they're one of the main things they're going

0:35:04.719 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 2>to be used for is to study what it's like

0:35:07.360 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>inside a black hole or a star or something like that.

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.959
<v Speaker 2>That's that's like what they're able to recreate and see

0:35:12.960 --> 0:35:15.400
<v Speaker 2>what happens when it bounces off of an apple or

0:35:15.400 --> 0:35:18.000
<v Speaker 2>something like that. What happens when you bounce a black

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:19.000
<v Speaker 2>hole off of an apple?

0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:22.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's basically why they're trying to create these

0:35:23.000 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>this powerful. It's not so they can blow up the

0:35:25.480 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 1>Death Star, even though that's a good case use. It's so, yeah,

0:35:30.080 --> 0:35:34.160
<v Speaker 1>so they can recreate like the energy and the inside

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.719
<v Speaker 1>of a star and find out the mysteries of the

0:35:36.800 --> 0:35:38.240
<v Speaker 1>universe basically exactly.

0:35:38.280 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>There's another thing you can use really really powerful lasers for,

0:35:41.360 --> 0:35:44.520
<v Speaker 2>and that's nuclear fusion. And we did a whole episode

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 2>on nuclear fusion, I think in twenty nineteen that was

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorites of all time, and it's this

0:35:51.480 --> 0:35:55.880
<v Speaker 2>whole thing that's the promise of basically free, unlimited energy

0:35:56.239 --> 0:35:59.480
<v Speaker 2>that you can power anything with with almost like what

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.160
<v Speaker 2>you're getting out is way more than what you're putting in.

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:07.439
<v Speaker 2>And it's essentially where you take light nuclei and fuse

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:10.919
<v Speaker 2>them together to create a heavy nuclei and a lot

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:13.640
<v Speaker 2>of energy is released. It's just we haven't quite figured

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:17.440
<v Speaker 2>it out. Well. You need like plasma concentrations. These are

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 2>plasma lasers, and apparently in twenty twenty two at the

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Lawrence Livermore Lab, they use one hundred and ninety two

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>of these lasers to essentially create the world's first nuclear

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 2>fusion reaction that produced more energy than was put in.

0:36:34.480 --> 0:36:35.520
<v Speaker 2>There was a net gain.

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they called that the Right Brothers moment as far

0:36:40.120 --> 0:36:42.680
<v Speaker 1>as lasers go, sure, because you got a net gain

0:36:42.760 --> 0:36:44.960
<v Speaker 1>for the first time. They focus those lasers at a

0:36:45.280 --> 0:36:48.440
<v Speaker 1>capsule the size of a peppercorn, and that did it.

0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 1>And I bet that was a great day in that lab.

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure. I mean, once we get to nuclear fusion,

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.640
<v Speaker 2>that's that's going to change absolutely everything.

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.839
<v Speaker 2>So you can use it for nuclear fusion. You can

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 2>use really great lasers to recreate different, crazy exotic aspects

0:37:08.640 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 2>of the universe. There's also way more pedestrian uses for lasers,

0:37:12.160 --> 0:37:17.600
<v Speaker 2>like we said barcodes, fiber optic communication. But they're like

0:37:17.760 --> 0:37:20.840
<v Speaker 2>when you're start to look around, lasers are everywhere. Essentially,

0:37:20.880 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 2>anything you can bounce light off of or that that

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:30.080
<v Speaker 2>will absorb light you can use a laser for for

0:37:30.120 --> 0:37:31.399
<v Speaker 2>some application or other.

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, they're all over the medical industry for

0:37:35.280 --> 0:37:37.960
<v Speaker 1>in all kinds of ways. I think pretty early on

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 1>they were like, hey, these using a laser to cut

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:44.000
<v Speaker 1>into the human body is way better than a scalpel. Sure,

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 1>it's way more precise, there's less damage on the tissue

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.399
<v Speaker 1>it self kind of self cauterizes as it goes, So

0:37:51.520 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be sterilizing the tissue that surrounds it.

0:37:54.080 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be less blood loss, you're going to

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>heal up quicker. So that's there. I mean, scalpels are

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 1>still around, but you know, lasers are the way to go.

0:38:01.920 --> 0:38:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I saw that there's a brain tumor laser procedure that

0:38:06.640 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>uses a five millimeter hole in the skull and you

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 2>get discharged the next day. That's how accurate and amazing

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.880
<v Speaker 2>these things are. Plus also, it's way easier to attach

0:38:15.920 --> 0:38:18.600
<v Speaker 2>to a robot than to give a robot a scalpel

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:19.160
<v Speaker 2>to use.

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hate to bring it up again, but that

0:38:21.800 --> 0:38:24.799
<v Speaker 1>was just on an episode of The Pit, that exact.

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Case use that you just mentioned, the laser tumor.

0:38:27.640 --> 0:38:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the tiny hole in the skull.

0:38:29.560 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 2>We started watching it, I gave it another try, you

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.960
<v Speaker 2>me and I did, and it's it is pretty good

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:34.759
<v Speaker 2>and engrossing.

0:38:35.280 --> 0:38:40.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, engross it is. Yeah, and I figured out too

0:38:40.840 --> 0:38:42.959
<v Speaker 1>watching last night, I kind of forgot the reason why

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I was saying. There's so much of like of Noah

0:38:45.719 --> 0:38:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Wiley over explaining everything to all the younger doctors and

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:51.400
<v Speaker 1>residences because it's a teaching hospital.

0:38:51.840 --> 0:38:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go, which is.

0:38:53.640 --> 0:38:56.279
<v Speaker 1>A great vehicle to explain whatever the heck is going

0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:59.000
<v Speaker 1>on to the viewer at home, you know, yep, for sure.

0:39:00.120 --> 0:39:03.239
<v Speaker 1>All right, So back to medicals, since we're talking about

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:06.560
<v Speaker 1>the PIT. If you ever had an endoscope, that's you

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:09.839
<v Speaker 1>know when they put a long flexible tube down your

0:39:09.880 --> 0:39:11.640
<v Speaker 1>throat a lot of times, or up your nose or

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.879
<v Speaker 1>who knows what holes they can put them into these days, it.

0:39:14.840 --> 0:39:17.240
<v Speaker 2>Depends if it's a rubber hose, you know where that goes.

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:22.560
<v Speaker 1>That's right, Vinny. Essentially you can access these tough to

0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.760
<v Speaker 1>reach areas with these tiny little tubes, and in this case,

0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>you can have a laser attached to it and send

0:39:28.120 --> 0:39:30.839
<v Speaker 1>it in there to shrink a tumor like you were

0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:31.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about.

0:39:31.520 --> 0:39:34.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, And then you can also use them to do

0:39:34.239 --> 0:39:37.160
<v Speaker 2>things like destroy the epidermis and then heat up the

0:39:37.200 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 2>dermis underneath to get rid of like spots or something

0:39:40.840 --> 0:39:45.160
<v Speaker 2>like that. For all sorts of esthetic dermatological applications.

0:39:45.480 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, cosmetic stuff.

0:39:46.760 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>YEP, tattoo removal, that kind of thing.

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.080
<v Speaker 1>Laser, what about lask Yeah, Lasik.

0:39:51.840 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 2>Is a big one that has become vastly improved as

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:58.840
<v Speaker 2>lasers and robots have improved. I think it was first

0:39:58.880 --> 0:40:02.600
<v Speaker 2>started at first became approved in the US and nineteen

0:40:02.640 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine, and since then it's gotten really good. I

0:40:05.960 --> 0:40:09.960
<v Speaker 2>think ninety percent of people who get Lasik have between

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:14.480
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty and twenty forty vision afterward. And it's like

0:40:14.600 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 2>the pool of people who are candidates for it are

0:40:19.200 --> 0:40:21.359
<v Speaker 2>is pretty wide. It's not like, yeah, if you can

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 2>if you need just like those magnifying readers that you

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 2>buy at the pharmacy. You're gonna Lasik's gonna benefit. You know,

0:40:27.440 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 2>you can have like pretty bad myopia and still benefit

0:40:31.920 --> 0:40:32.239
<v Speaker 2>from it.

0:40:32.920 --> 0:40:35.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in this case, they use the laser to reshape

0:40:35.440 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 1>the cornea. Didn't you debate laser at one point?

0:40:39.840 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm still thinking about it. But my vision we're

0:40:43.840 --> 0:40:47.760
<v Speaker 2>basically at an age where your vision changes fairly rapidly

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.680
<v Speaker 2>and you want it to stabilize or else you'd get

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.040
<v Speaker 2>lasik once and then you'd end up needing glasses when

0:40:53.080 --> 0:40:54.760
<v Speaker 2>your vision degrades again.

0:40:55.400 --> 0:40:58.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Emily has been debating it to a little

0:40:58.600 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 1>bit lately. I'm not sure why.

0:40:59.719 --> 0:41:01.440
<v Speaker 2>I look into it and I was convinced, like this

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.160
<v Speaker 2>is this is pretty safe and effective, and yeah, yeah

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.160
<v Speaker 2>I would do it. I'm just not there yet.

0:41:06.719 --> 0:41:08.799
<v Speaker 1>I feel like when I've seen you lately, you're having

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:10.880
<v Speaker 1>trouble with a contact.

0:41:10.560 --> 0:41:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Lens because it's been wintertime and dry. Uh it makes

0:41:14.560 --> 0:41:16.840
<v Speaker 2>them like it makes it easier for it to like

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.920
<v Speaker 2>fold over something like that. Popca sucks.

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.320
<v Speaker 2>There's also weapons. Of course, you can use lasers for weapons.

0:41:25.920 --> 0:41:28.400
<v Speaker 2>Apparently the Army, the Navy, and the Air Force are

0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:34.080
<v Speaker 2>developing laser weapons to different different levels of success, but

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 2>they're definitely working on them, not to necessarily like you know,

0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.880
<v Speaker 2>mow doown troops, but to say, blow up a drone

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:41.799
<v Speaker 2>or something like that.

0:41:42.440 --> 0:41:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they're called directed energy systems. Some of them attached

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 1>to like a turret on a ship. Those seem to

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>work pretty well for like you said, like taking down

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:55.759
<v Speaker 1>a drone or something like that.

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

0:41:56.760 --> 0:41:59.959
<v Speaker 1>They have others. I think the army has one fifth

0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:02.720
<v Speaker 1>to kill a WATT that's on an armored fighting vehicle,

0:42:02.800 --> 0:42:06.960
<v Speaker 1>but that hasn't done so well because you know, for

0:42:07.000 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>a laser weapon to be pretty effective, it has to

0:42:09.160 --> 0:42:14.040
<v Speaker 1>be super tightly focused and pretty locked down. And they're like, hey,

0:42:14.080 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 1>we're driving this thing around and it's not very accurate, right.

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:22.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's the Striker armored fighting vehicle, Striker with a Y. Yeah,

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.640
<v Speaker 2>it's like they look to G. I. Joe stuff to

0:42:24.640 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 2>come up with ms for it.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>For sure.

0:42:27.200 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>There's also this one's pretty sweet too. It's laser cooling.

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:33.279
<v Speaker 2>And there's also so many different applications, like you can

0:42:33.600 --> 0:42:37.839
<v Speaker 2>you can track soil moisture from space to see how

0:42:37.880 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 2>bad a route is. You can track how badly ice

0:42:41.120 --> 0:42:43.759
<v Speaker 2>is receding in the in the polar areas. You can

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:46.959
<v Speaker 2>you can do everything with with lasers. They're really great

0:42:47.640 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>in case that hasn't gotten across so far, but this one,

0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.799
<v Speaker 2>to me is just amazingly cool.

0:42:55.040 --> 0:42:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no pun intended laser cooling. What they're doing is

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:02.360
<v Speaker 1>basically kind of freezing and at them or molecule in place.

0:43:03.239 --> 0:43:07.480
<v Speaker 1>It's also called a particle trap, and it's the same

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>sort of physics of stimulated emission, but kind of been reverse.

0:43:12.600 --> 0:43:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when an atom poops out a photon that kind

0:43:18.040 --> 0:43:21.160
<v Speaker 2>of pushes it in the opposite direction that the photon's traveling.

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.759
<v Speaker 2>They figured out that they can use lasers to keep

0:43:24.880 --> 0:43:28.040
<v Speaker 2>to basically balance that out. So these things are still

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:32.000
<v Speaker 2>producing photons, they're still doing their thing. They're in energetic

0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 2>states and oscillating and doing all sorts of stuff like

0:43:34.360 --> 0:43:37.400
<v Speaker 2>they're supposed to, but they're just not moving around in

0:43:37.520 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>space while they're doing it. Yeah, So they're essentially they're

0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:45.400
<v Speaker 2>just it's like a tractor beam holding it where you

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:46.080
<v Speaker 2>want it.

0:43:46.680 --> 0:43:49.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just slows it down such that it's basically stopped.

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:53.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's still doing its thing. It's not moving

0:43:53.040 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 2>around while it's doing it right. So, now that you

0:43:55.520 --> 0:44:00.359
<v Speaker 2>have an atom trapped, you can do something like this

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:03.440
<v Speaker 2>is the future of atomic clocks. You can measure the

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:08.799
<v Speaker 2>oscillations oscillations of that one specific atom so precisely that

0:44:08.920 --> 0:44:13.880
<v Speaker 2>atomic clocks are about to be just ridiculously more reliable

0:44:13.920 --> 0:44:16.440
<v Speaker 2>than the atomic clocks today, which I think we can

0:44:16.480 --> 0:44:19.719
<v Speaker 2>all agree are pretty reliable. So that's a huge groundbreaking

0:44:19.840 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 2>use for that.

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure. I mean it's easier to study something

0:44:23.280 --> 0:44:26.640
<v Speaker 1>that's sitting still exactly. Yeah.

0:44:26.760 --> 0:44:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now that I think about it, that basically overcomes

0:44:29.760 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, where you can't measure something and know

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.280
<v Speaker 2>where it is at the exact same time. Apparently Heisenberg

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:37.320
<v Speaker 2>didn't think of lasers.

0:44:38.760 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a nerdiest sentence you've ever said. Oh, come to

0:44:42.440 --> 0:44:42.799
<v Speaker 1>think of.

0:44:42.760 --> 0:44:45.200
<v Speaker 2>It, you got anything else?

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.840
<v Speaker 1>I got nothing else that you know, there's obviously a

0:44:47.880 --> 0:44:49.239
<v Speaker 1>lot more about it. I think that was a good,

0:44:49.320 --> 0:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>good old fashioned overview of lasers.

0:44:52.040 --> 0:44:55.960
<v Speaker 2>Great man, And since Chuck said old fashioned, he just

0:44:56.040 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 2>accidentally triggered listener mail.

0:45:00.560 --> 0:45:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to call this an answer to a question.

0:45:02.840 --> 0:45:04.360
<v Speaker 1>I love it when we put out a question we

0:45:04.400 --> 0:45:08.120
<v Speaker 1>get answered. We were talking about color psychology, and I

0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 1>wondered because I have a African American church around the

0:45:11.360 --> 0:45:11.920
<v Speaker 1>corner from me.

0:45:12.080 --> 0:45:13.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, that purple.

0:45:13.360 --> 0:45:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Actually, yeah, purple, And we heard from a listener. Hey, guys,

0:45:17.000 --> 0:45:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm writing to share some insight regarding the morning colors

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 1>at the nearby church. While traditions can vary between African

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.319
<v Speaker 1>American churches, I hope the following information is helpful. In

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>the twenty first century African American traditions, it is common

0:45:29.440 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 1>for individuals attending a funeral to where the deceased person's

0:45:32.120 --> 0:45:34.360
<v Speaker 1>favorite color, which is what I thought might be happening.

0:45:34.400 --> 0:45:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>In some cases, all and attendance are encouraged to do so,

0:45:37.960 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>while in others it's reserved for family members. Regarding the

0:45:41.680 --> 0:45:45.120
<v Speaker 1>use of purple, specifically, this color is typically associated with

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.799
<v Speaker 1>royalty in Jesus Christ. If you consistently see purple at

0:45:48.800 --> 0:45:51.839
<v Speaker 1>the church, it may be it may signify recognition of

0:45:51.880 --> 0:45:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the deceased returning to God, or maybe just the person's

0:45:55.840 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 1>favorite color. So I truly appreciate your program allows me

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:01.759
<v Speaker 1>to stay present and provides a welcome escape from the

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 1>daily news cycle. I look forward to becoming just a

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:09.520
<v Speaker 1>tadbit smarter as I continue to be an enthusiastic listener. Corgially, Teresa,

0:46:09.560 --> 0:46:10.640
<v Speaker 1>what a lovely email.

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:13.120
<v Speaker 2>That was a great email, Chorisa, thank you very much

0:46:13.200 --> 0:46:15.440
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