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Speaker 1: You're listening to Draftings Network, the John Nick and Kenny

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Speaker 1: Florian Podcast, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I love him.

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Speaker 3: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 4: Let's hear that both the next Big.

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Speaker 5: Job, the COOKTUFA prettier.

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Speaker 6: Rockyouck.

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Speaker 1: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 7: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: That's song I'm well, I could be with you.

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Speaker 6: Monday, April seventeenth, twenty twenty three, Episode four oh four

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Speaker 6: of the Annik and Florian podcast Ken Flow is back

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Speaker 6: on the East Coast. A lot of travel. Now, you

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Speaker 6: don't do the PFL Europe, Is that right?

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Speaker 5: I do not? I met that was that was my

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Speaker 5: week off, but it was like eight weeks of Challengers

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Speaker 5: series had like a week off and then it was

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Speaker 5: like three consecutive weeks of the regular season.

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Speaker 6: So you don't want to hear any complaining from these

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Speaker 6: UFC commentators, nor to Sean O'Connell. So will you do

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Speaker 6: UFC E excuse me, PFL Europe in the future or

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Speaker 6: is that like a different analyst?

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Speaker 5: So basically I think that it's a different analyst. You know,

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Speaker 5: they're using a European Understan analyst. I believe, yes, well,

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Speaker 5: too expensive to get ken flow overseas. I understand, I

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Speaker 5: understand we have a lot to get to today, big

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Speaker 5: PFL three event at Virgin Hotels in Vegas. Of course

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night in Kansas City, but I want to

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Speaker 5: begin with the PFL and the PFL debut for Hurricane

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Speaker 5: Shane Burgos does not go according to plan. Olivier Obama Mercia,

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Speaker 5: I mean the Canadian gangster just taking over since leaving

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Speaker 5: the UFC. I know that was not the main event.

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Speaker 5: It looks like Natan Schulty and Stevie Ray was the

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Speaker 5: main event, and it looked like you guys went main

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Speaker 5: card before the prelims.

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Speaker 4: Is how what happened.

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Speaker 5: So this is why it's so confusing. It was the

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Speaker 5: last fight. Here's the thing. The last fight, you are correct,

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Speaker 5: was Niton Shalt and Stevie Ray. But the main event

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Speaker 5: was Burgos and Olivier. Uh We we basically had extra

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Speaker 5: so we kind of threw in. We threw into Toon

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Speaker 5: Shelton Stevie Ray. There as one extra bonus. But yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: pretty pretty good event.

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Speaker 6: It seems like a lot of finishes, a lot of

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Speaker 6: seems like maybe a lot of decisions on the prelims

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Speaker 5: Exactly exactly, which I guess was good, you know, right,

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Speaker 5: but the prelims started to get slow. We had got

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Speaker 5: started to slow down midway. Then it kind of you know,

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Speaker 5: heated up at the very end. But yeah, man, Olivier

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Speaker 5: looks phenomenal, undefeated in the PFL. He's putting it all together.

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Speaker 5: He's fighting with a tremendous amount of confidence. I thought

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Speaker 5: he outstruck Burgos in round one, then kind of leaned

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Speaker 5: just showing how well rounded it, how well rounded he is.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, I thought it was a phenomenal performance.

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Speaker 6: Good news, bad news for the highly touted free agent

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Speaker 6: acquisition Shane Burgos. He does get to fight here on

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Speaker 6: But what did go wrong for Burgos, who seemed very

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know he was complaining about you know, him

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Speaker 5: It's like it's mixed martial arts, man. You know, he's

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Speaker 5: lot of that had to do with Olivier his ability

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Speaker 5: So Burgos just couldn't get anything started. But I think

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Speaker 6: And if you are Olivier Obama Mercier the twenty twenty

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Speaker 6: two PFL lightweight champion, right, it's a tournament. He's fighting

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Speaker 6: in a couple months too, so minimize risk and he

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Speaker 6: moves on, albeit without the all important finish. What do

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Speaker 6: you got from me on my guy, Clay Colin? I

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Speaker 6: did not see the fight. I'm a big Clay Collared fan.

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Speaker 5: He can't fight in a boring fight if he tried.

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Speaker 5: You know, every single time it's like, you know, I'm

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Speaker 5: It's crazy the kind of fight that he gets into.

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Speaker 5: He always finds a way to make it exciting. Nishikawa,

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Speaker 5: though I think, really proved himself as a guy to

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Speaker 5: and he was definitely undersized against Clay Collard, who was

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Speaker 5: And dude twenty years old has thirty professional fights. Just insane.

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Speaker 5: His dad wanted to be a professional fighter, didn't make

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Speaker 5: Nishikawa never attended kin garden, uh you know, first grade,

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Speaker 5: He was homeschooled. Uh. He was walking around Las Vegas

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Speaker 5: barefoot all week because he says that's how he fights. Wow,

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Speaker 5: he walks. I mean he's like an old school throwback

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Speaker 5: martial artists man. But he lost against Collared, But I

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Speaker 5: like similar to Arnold Allen. Maybe he lost, but I

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Speaker 6: Cleanest streets in America in Las Vegas, so you might

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Speaker 6: And yeah, I think he should be a fighter as well, archer.

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Speaker 6: If you get ready, buckle up, Son, because Ken Flill

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Speaker 6: Ton Schultz, not not Son Shulty, Is that right?

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Speaker 5: Not Ton Schult?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, not Ton Schultz. So I'm walking around yesterday, so

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Speaker 6: I'm trying not to be like all suffocating. So I'm outside,

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Speaker 6: I see Conan silvera about eight hours after Edson Barboza

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Speaker 6: big night for American top teams, like big weekend. We

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Speaker 6: went nine to oh. So Schultz part of a nine

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Speaker 6: make of Schultz getting it done over Scotland Stevie Ray.

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Speaker 5: So best performance that I've seen from Naton schult He's

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Speaker 5: already a two time champion, so he already has banked

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Speaker 5: two million dollars for himself. But since I have seen him,

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Speaker 5: he's always been super exciting, similar to Clay Caller, he

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Speaker 5: just can't find himself in anything but an exciting fight.

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Speaker 5: Loves to move forward, He's like a terminator calf kicks,

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Speaker 5: judo takedowns awesome to watch. But this was the cleanest,

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Speaker 5: smartest performance that I've seen from him yet. He said

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Speaker 5: he's been working hard on his grappling, his wrestling and

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Speaker 5: But Natan Schaltz showed that he was a little bit smarter,

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Speaker 6: All right, And before we move on to UFC Fight Night,

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Speaker 6: I mean, once again, what can you get sada Bus

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Speaker 6: off the prelims? Kennedy, do you wield enough power to

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Speaker 5: I know, right, Uh Sadibu had a great fight. Man

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Speaker 5: ended up fighting a very tough uh Jiraw also lowie

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Speaker 5: that just folded Al Salawie like fresh laundry man. It

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Speaker 6: What a fun name to say, sadab C. Cody is

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Speaker 6: that Swedish Denzel Is that what they call him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, look at this guy, he knows everything.

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Speaker 6: So Cody Marrow tells me that, Uh sadabou C, I mean,

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Speaker 6: what a name. You can punk punch there with a

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Speaker 6: call Sad was he was offered to us for the

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Speaker 6: Anconfloring podcast today we had Francis Marshall book that I

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Speaker 6: should have teased that off the top coming up a

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Speaker 6: little bit later in about forty minutes after Ray Longo

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Speaker 6: UFC Featherweight Francis Marshall, who fights this weekend live on

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Speaker 6: ESPN Plus. So we do hope we get a chance

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Speaker 6: to talk to Sadabuc and we do hope to see

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Speaker 6: the PFL. All right, Max Holloway and Arnold Allen in

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Speaker 6: our featherweight main event from last weekend, and it goes

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Speaker 6: to Max Holloway unanimous decision forty nine to forty six

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Speaker 6: times two dissenting judge had at forty eight forty seven.

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Speaker 6: I felt like there was an argument to be made

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Speaker 6: that Max Holloway did bank the first four rounds. My

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Speaker 6: Arnold Allen. I certainly think there's an argument to be

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Speaker 6: made there big round five for Arnold Allen on the

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Speaker 6: Allen goes World War three in round four and five,

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Speaker 6: maybe we're talking about a different outcome instead, Max Holloway

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Speaker 6: maintains his spot near the top of the division and

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Speaker 6: adds a twentieth UFC win. Your thoughts on the UFC

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Speaker 5: It's an extremely difficult thing to have a strategy that

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Speaker 5: To see more of an approach like Volkanovsky took against

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Speaker 6: Max Holloway is the sharpest, smartest fighter in the UFC.

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Speaker 6: Pretty good effort volume wise. You know, the commentators kept

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Speaker 6: less volume, methodical, measured at his calculated best. He can

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Speaker 5: You know, I think there's a lot of things at

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Speaker 5: out of all that, John, I think it's the culture

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Speaker 6: Un heralded coaches, Ryland Lazars and everybody else strength and

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Speaker 4: Good damn my bucket list? Hawaii.

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Speaker 6: You've never been to Hawaiian?

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Speaker 4: I want to. I've never been to Hawaii. I'm waiting

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Speaker 6: Maybe the PFL go to Hawaii.

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Speaker 4: Why is boy, can those promotions do a show over

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Speaker 4: We got James Gonzalez going over there, leaving tomorrow to

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Speaker 6: No, I think there are a lot of hurdles in Hawaii,

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Speaker 6: Know who is in flying you to Hawaii? Fucking extra rounds?

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Speaker 6: go ahead, Flow.

433
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Speaker 5: I was gonna say, well, you finish it, because I

434
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Speaker 5: was going to mention what Cody was saying in the chat,

435
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 5: which I think is very interesting.

436
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Speaker 6: Well, I'll let you circle back to that. I was

437
00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 6: just going to say, it does stand to reason, as

438
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,640
Speaker 6: you rep Team Steam, that Matt Ravola and Drew Dover

439
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 6: are going to get an appreciable bump on this fight

440
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 6: card and probably get a prominent placement on pay per view.

441
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Speaker 6: So so that's exciting, that's pretty cool.

442
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Speaker 4: That's good, Ken, Flow.

443
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Speaker 5: What do you have so Cody? Cody is saying that

444
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 5: both Gilbert and ballall tweeted May six with I emojis

445
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 5: and uh that would be a great fight. Ballall and

446
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:50,000
Speaker 5: and Burns going at it. Obviously, you know Ballall and

447
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 5: Gilbert both saying that they want that next shot. I

448
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 5: think that's a perfect fight. I think it's a great fight.

449
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,080
Speaker 5: If that's what they're they're working on, that'd be very interesting.

450
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,720
Speaker 5: And apparently Benil saying that they're moving the fight with

451
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Speaker 5: the olavert back to June ninth.

452
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Speaker 6: Wow, do you guys think of that? That is a

453
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Speaker 6: lot to digest. I had not seen those tweets from

454
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Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns and blow Muhammad that is just a few

455
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 6: short weeks away. It would be a huge injection to

456
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 6: this fight card, and the fight game works in mysterious ways,

457
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 6: right Arnold Allen even I know he's banged up right now,

458
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 6: but he could realize a high profile short notice opportunity

459
00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 6: that could change everything I say about these two year

460
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 6: championship setbacks. I do know that Gilbert Burns at times

461
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 6: has express frustration that Balal had passed him in the rankings,

462
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Speaker 6: like when he lost to Kamzat Chimayev, and felt took

463
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Speaker 6: some issue with that. And it seemed like Gilbert Burns

464
00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 6: ray after he beat Jorge Mosfeedal suggested, you know, give

465
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Speaker 6: me a championship opportunity or release me, but maybe a

466
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Speaker 6: short notice fight against Blaw maybe gets a little bit

467
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Speaker 6: extra money. Who knows, but that would be a nice

468
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Speaker 6: little lead into to your guy Al Joe Raymond.

469
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Speaker 4: I'm saying that that's going to happen. I don't know,

470
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,199
Speaker 4: why do you guys just put it on the table.

471
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm thinking that's happened in that fight.

472
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 5: And Dana set he was working on a new comin event,

473
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:10,240
Speaker 5: so maybe that's he.

474
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Speaker 4: Kind of alluded to Gilbert Burns, so we got fifty

475
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Speaker 4: percent of what he was thinking. And you know Blal's

476
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 4: game for anything, so I would think that's that's what

477
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Speaker 4: That's why I'm hitting in that direction. If he mentioned

478
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns's name, and I think blials he's one hundred

479
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,959
Speaker 4: percent jumping in there. I think that fight's happening now.

480
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Speaker 6: Gilbert Burns did fight fifteen minutes on April eight to

481
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 6: nine days ago, Kenny. Perhaps that's a good thing. Perhaps not.

482
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 6: Balao Muhammad is training right now during Ramadan several times

483
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Speaker 6: a day, as is his norm, but that is a

484
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Speaker 6: really high profile fight to have no build up. It

485
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 6: is interesting when it comes to Leon Edwards. I still

486
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,040
Speaker 6: do believe Colby Covington's probably going to be next, But

487
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 6: Leon Edwards is the champion. He has his own desires.

488
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Speaker 6: He has said repeatedly he doesn't see a number one contender.

489
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Speaker 6: If these two dudes fight, the winner of that fights

490
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Speaker 6: the number one contender.

491
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Speaker 5: Ray.

492
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know, John, you said something to it,

493
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: and you know this work, The MMA works in mysterious ways.

494
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 4: You know, Kobe Covington gets hurt, one of those guys

495
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 4: is right there where he wants to be, and that happens,

496
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: you know, more than you think it happens, right, So

497
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 4: nothing's in cement, And you know that's why you got

498
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 4: to be ready all the time. And like Kenny was

499
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:24,199
Speaker 4: saying before I got on here, you got to be

500
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 4: training your ass off every day because those opportunities don't come,

501
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: you know, every month. You know, they come once in

502
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 4: a while, so you better be ready to seize the opportunity.

503
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 4: So for all those guys that are in that spot

504
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: and they want it, they have to stay ready at

505
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: a in a high way too.

506
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Speaker 6: It's interesting, Kenny, because Colby Covington doesn't want a non

507
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 6: title fight right now, and he keeps himself in phenomenal shape.

508
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 6: But you do wonder if Colby Covington was offered May sixth,

509
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 6: if that would appeal to him, or if he just

510
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 6: believes that he can hold out and uh and still

511
00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 6: get that title shot.

512
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Speaker 5: You know, very interesting, Yeah, I mean I was thinking

513
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 5: of that as a potential option as well. You know,

514
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 5: maybe he hops in there against Burns or him against

515
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: ballall there's a bunch of options. That's a good thing

516
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 5: for the UFC, you know. And there's no shortage of talent.

517
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 5: And you got a bunch of guys, you got it.

518
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 5: You got three guys that all think that they deserve

519
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 5: the next title shot. Well, let's have at least two

520
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 5: of them fight it out. Let's see what's what.

521
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 4: I love it.

522
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Speaker 6: It's all speculation and we are going to move on.

523
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 6: But if you're Tim Simpson, Leon Edwards is manager, and

524
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 6: Leon is hell bent on fighting a true number one

525
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 6: contender in his own mind in Abu Dhabi in October.

526
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Speaker 6: And by the way, Leon Edwards has suggested that as

527
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Speaker 6: his timeline. You know, maybe Leon's management goes to the

528
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 6: UFC and says we'll sign a contract to fight the

529
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 6: Balal Gilbert winner in October A million percent. But right

530
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Speaker 6: now we're not going to sign a contract to fight

531
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Speaker 6: colbe Coventer. You know, I don't know. We shall see,

532
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 6: but we'll see which number one contender emerges out of

533
00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 6: all of that. Ray, did you watch PFL three to

534
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 6: support Ken Floor not? I mean, don't lie the audience.

535
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 4: Yes, I all, last second, I saw a PFL three.

536
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 4: I didn't like the way they it was the main card.

537
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 4: They screwed up something on TV. So I missed a

538
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: couple of the fights, right, it was all I was

539
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,359
Speaker 4: all Shane Burgos fight and I missed that and then

540
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,959
Speaker 4: I but I did see the Stevie Ray fight, and

541
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 4: I did. I saw a couple of fights.

542
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, we had to take a back seat to the

543
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 5: NBA playoffs.

544
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 4: They they something like that, right because I was racing

545
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 4: home and I was like, I don't know if the

546
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 4: race home it starts at nine thirty. I get, I

547
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 4: don't know. I don't.

548
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 6: I love how he says it though, I'm going to

549
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,639
Speaker 6: say I watched pflight. I'm gonna say I watched it.

550
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 6: Is that what you say?

551
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 5: You know.

552
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 4: I did watch it?

553
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 5: You know who was there? You know who was there?

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 5: Al Jamaine Sterling. He was there, Dude. He consumes everything,

555
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 5: like I see him from the early on the UFC.

556
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,879
Speaker 5: He's going to the PFL fights like he's watching everything.

557
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 5: You know, He's like he watches everything. Man, He's a

558
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 5: student of the game.

559
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 4: He is a student of the game. And he not

560
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 4: only does he watch it, he retains it, unlike me

561
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 4: who might have watched it. And I don't even know

562
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 4: because after the UFC on Saturday night that already erased.

563
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 4: So definitely saw.

564
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 5: He's looking lean and mean. Man, he's looking like he's

565
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: in great shape.

566
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

567
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 4: Excited to see him today.

568
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 6: Oh he looks like an absolute monster. I mean he

569
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 6: always so all right. So I get myself in trouble

570
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 6: for myriad reasons all the time. Seems like not a

571
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 6: day goes by where I have like a clean day

572
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 6: where my wife twin brother isn't. Like, dude, can you

573
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: just shut your mouth and call the fights please?

574
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: Yeah. The good news is we're getting used to it,

575
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,000
Speaker 4: so it's like normal mouth it is.

576
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 6: So I don't intend to necessarily have the greatest of

577
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 6: all time conversation about the bandam Weights when I lay

578
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 6: out the show today. But the weekly Scraps. Aljamaine Sterling's

579
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 6: podcast put out a question suggesting that if Aljamaine Sterling

580
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 6: beats Henry Shudo in less than three weeks now that

581
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 6: he is the greatest banding weight of all time. And

582
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 6: when Trevin five Star Jones or whomever it was got

583
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 6: an opportunity to fight Cody Garbrandt recently, he said, you know,

584
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,440
Speaker 6: there aren't that many former champions at one hundred and

585
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 6: thirty five pounds, never mind who might be the greatest

586
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 6: of all time?

587
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 4: Now?

588
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 6: Domina Cruz is one of my best friends. Certainly to me,

589
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 6: he's the guy, but he hasn't competed all that often

590
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 6: in the UFC. So I would say on equivocally, if

591
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: Al Jamaine Sterling adds a Henry Sahudo scalp to his

592
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 6: resume on May sixth, al Jamaine Sterling is the greatest

593
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 6: band weight of all time.

594
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Speaker 4: I think it's a no brainer.

595
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 5: It really is.

596
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: It really is a no brainer. You know, I don't

597
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 4: think we need the weekly Scraps to tell us that.

598
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 4: I think it's one hundred percent of no brainer. It

599
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,479
Speaker 4: really is. In Uh, you know, I think we got

600
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 4: a kid with a lot of confidence. Again, the adversity

601
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 4: he's been through I think only made him stronger. You know,

602
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 4: it's that old saying whatever it doesn't kill you makes

603
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 4: you stronger. I think he's an example that, and I'm

604
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 4: really super excited for this fight.

605
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 6: I really bring that up in the context of how

606
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 6: much is on the line with this fight against Henry Sahudo.

607
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 6: What type of Henry Sahudo are you expecting? I mean,

608
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 6: you expect it's got to be in the best shape

609
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 6: of his life.

610
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 4: Come on, I expect him to be in the best

611
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 4: shape of his life. I don't think Henry's stupid. I

612
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 4: think he's a student of the game too. I like

613
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 4: listening to him talk. He's very practical. I think he

614
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 4: keeps it simple, and I think that's what the way

615
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 4: he's going to approach this fight. But he's one hundred

616
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 4: percent going to be in shape.

617
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 6: If he's not, oh, he'll be in shape Force one. Yeah. No,

618
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 6: I was totally messing around again. I gotta be careful, right, No,

619
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 6: but it is interesting. You see he got a huge

620
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: cut early on in training camp. I don't know if

621
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 6: you saw any of the videos, so you stitched up

622
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 6: for much of this training camp, which maybe is a

623
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 6: non factor. But to me, I think it's a factor.

624
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 6: But I'm fascinated to see how he comes back, just

625
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 6: giving the long layoff, I'm fascinated to sit down with

626
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 6: Henry in a fight or me and find out what

627
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 6: his motivation is right now. Certainly adding a win over

628
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 6: al Jamain Sterling and becoming a two time UFC Bantaway

629
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 6: champion is a huge thing. But does he just see

630
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 6: this as a springboard to featherweight, to try to become

631
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 6: see four? Is he coming back for monetary reasons?

632
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: You know?

633
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 6: I just think it's it's interesting the timing, the division

634
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 6: and everything else.

635
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. Look, I think money's always at the

636
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 4: top of the equation, you know what I mean. So, Yeah,

637
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 4: he's been out for a couple of years. Doesn't look

638
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: like he's been killed. We don't really know, but it

639
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 4: doesn't look like he's been killing it with anything. Wasn't

640
00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 4: he supposed to go into real estate or something? It seemed, Yeah,

641
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 4: he had a game plan when he retired. I'm not

642
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 4: sure that came to fruition, but if it didn't, I

643
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: think that's probably why. You know, he feels like this

644
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: is a good fight for him. He feels like it

645
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 4: is a springboard. Maybe if he wins that he goes

646
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 4: on to something biggas. So I think he's he's a

647
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 4: guy that's you know, playing chess and looking down the

648
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 4: line a little bit for sure.

649
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 6: Yep, global pandemic is he suggests, probably didn't help as

650
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 6: far as his real estate endeavors. But yeah, we'll be interesting. Yeah,

651
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 6: sometimes you don't always get the right answers. I love Henry,

652
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 6: we have a good relationship. I've tried to get him

653
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 6: on the podcast and the lead up to this fight,

654
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 6: and I think his focus is on his YouTube channel

655
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 6: and he has politely denied that request. Maybe if I

656
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 6: go at your boy Al Joe directly, he'll actually come

657
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 6: on the program.

658
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 4: A hill one hundred percent come on the program.

659
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 6: So I wanted to get your thoughts on Max Holloway

660
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 6: because just another another chapter in a career of brilliance

661
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 6: for one of the greatest featherweights of all time.

662
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 4: Right, yeah one hundred. I mean he made that. He

663
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 4: took a tough kid, Alan Allen looked good. He definitely

664
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: deserved to be there. I think it'll be a great

665
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 4: learning experience for him in growing fight. But many he

666
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, look it was it was. I don't

667
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 4: know if I think it was a close fight. But

668
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 4: Max just made it look like a sparing says, you

669
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 4: were he was playing around. That's the That's the craziness

670
00:32:55,880 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: to me is that he took a real contender who

671
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: looks like he hits like you know, a freight train.

672
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 4: He just the way, you know, Kenny, the way he

673
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 4: knows sells getting hit is unbelievable too. Like if you

674
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: don't have if the volume was turned down, you're not

675
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 4: listening to the announcers go oh what is shut You're

676
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 4: gonna think nothing happened. He doesn't even flinch. He acts

677
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 4: like it's nothing, that fight's over. He's talking like he's

678
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,080
Speaker 4: three weeks before the fight. Do it Like I thought

679
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 4: it was incredible for a variety of reasons that he

680
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 4: just took a talented kid and made it look really simple.

681
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 4: And you know, the last couple of seconds when that

682
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 4: guy really wanted to throw down, he threw down with

683
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 4: him and knocked him down. You know, So you know,

684
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 4: I think it was his plan to go in, like

685
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 4: he said, and hit, not get it didn't exactly go

686
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 4: his way by he kind of to me, made it

687
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 4: look easy.

688
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 6: Kenny, speaking of not getting hit, I'm not sure there's

689
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 6: any professional sport in the world who's elite athletes train

690
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 6: or work towards a common goal so differently. And I

691
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 6: bring it up in the context of Max Allaway, who

692
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 6: doesn't spar to pose against somebody like Dominic Cruz who

693
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,280
Speaker 6: needs to spar tons and tons and tons of rounds

694
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 6: over six months to get right. And Kenny, I'm not

695
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 6: suggesting that one approach is better than the other, but

696
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 6: it's crazy in a sport at this level that some

697
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 6: guys don't spar, and some guys feel like it's the

698
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,239
Speaker 6: lifeblood of their whole training camp.

699
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of that has to do with,

700
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 5: you know, not only the way that they run camps,

701
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 5: the way the coaches run camps, but also I think,

702
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 5: you know, how many years they've been in the game.

703
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 4: You know.

704
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 5: It's like Robbie Lawler, after coming from you know, the

705
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 5: militic fighting systems camps for all those years, he didn't

706
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 5: want to spar after that, you know, like he realized

707
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 5: that he needed to, you know, and it worked for him.

708
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 5: It worked for him, you know, and it worked for

709
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 5: certain people but at some point, like especially early on

710
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 5: in your career, you know, I was probably sparring like

711
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 5: five times a week. You know, honestly, you know, nothing crazy.

712
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to like knock each other out every

713
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 5: single day. But that helped me, and then over time

714
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 5: I didn't have to do as much, right, So it depends.

715
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 5: Everyone's different, you know. But as far as like sharpening

716
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 5: your sword and getting ready for a fight, it's in

717
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: my mind it has to be a large aspect of

718
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 5: your camps.

719
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you. And again, if you're a wonder

720
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 4: Boy Thompson, you know they they look first of if

721
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 4: you have to define sparring, they're plays barring for sure.

722
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 4: You know, they're not maybe going in there with the

723
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 4: intent of bringing the new guys and testing themselves that way.

724
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 4: But they are one hundred percent place barring. They're getting

725
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 4: the timing down. Wonder Boy never really sparred that hard.

726
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 4: He just he's got the length he's got, you know,

727
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 4: the way I think the guys that are on the

728
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: outside that can fight on the outside, like Max is

729
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 4: a toll guy. He's got a lot of fights. He

730
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 4: was always active. Yeah, so it's almost like in tyln Kenny.

731
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 4: They're always fighting once a month, why are they spare

732
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 4: And so they developed that place bar and so the

733
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 4: guys that are active, they don't really have to spare

734
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: it because they just fought three months ago. It's not

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: like see Dominic would get injured, he'd be out for

736
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 4: two years. Yeah, he has to get those juices flowing.

737
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 4: How is he not going to do that? He has

738
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 4: to spa and then you have to bring in the

739
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,600
Speaker 4: right sparring partners if you want to do that, and

740
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: make sure that nothing's crazy. But I think there's a

741
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 4: certain type of fighter, like the Holloways, the Wonder Boy

742
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 4: Thompson's that can get away with it because what they

743
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 4: do they do so good. You know that it's not

744
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 4: that important to them. But they are in the gym

745
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 4: play s barring every day. I've seen it. Even in

746
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 4: my gym. We got guys that do that. But every

747
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 4: day they're playing around. They're not banging it out every day,

748
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: but they're certainly getting their timing and punches are coming

749
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 4: at him. It's not like you can't think that Max

750
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 4: Holloway just did strength and conditioning and did nothing. He's

751
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 4: playing around with people, for sure. You could see it

752
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 4: in this movement, you know. But he's he's been how

753
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 4: many fights? This guy's been around forever at this point.

754
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 4: You know, we were talking about his fight with Dennis

755
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 4: Bermudas yesterday. Think about how long ago was that Connor

756
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 4: McGregor at forty five. Those days are gone? You know

757
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: his style? Yeah, go ahead, Yeah.

758
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 5: And I was going to say, in his style of fighting,

759
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 5: I think, first of all, it's like he's proven his

760
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 5: toughness like eighty fights, so I think he knows how

761
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 5: he's going to respond. And I think because of his style,

762
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 5: because of the way that he fights, he stays in

763
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 5: the pocket, he trades with you. I think in that

764
00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 5: case it serves him well. You know, similar to like

765
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 5: Robbie Lawler, where you know they've they've accrued a lot

766
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 5: of damage over the years that they're trying to minimize

767
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 5: that as much as possible and really trying to work

768
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: on technical skills and things like that. But as Ray

769
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 5: said that, there's no way he doesn't do some kind

770
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 5: of sparring, whether it's spar or drills and things like that.

771
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

772
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 4: And again, if you know your guy has a good chin,

773
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: even better, right, But if you can't take a punch,

774
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 4: and you think you're going in there without like the

775
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: flight time is sparring. The first time you get hit,

776
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 4: it's going to be a disaster. So there's certain guys

777
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 4: you could probably profile him at this point and know

778
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 4: who they are.

779
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 6: Hey, guys, how's my audio? Pretty good?

780
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 4: Now?

781
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 6: My mic just went off, so hopefully you guys can

782
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:06,799
Speaker 6: hear me.

783
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 5: Oh well, perfect, all right, So.

784
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 6: Billy Corntello had a tough weekend at the office. Edsen

785
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 6: Barbosa gets it done with a huge knee at two

786
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 6: thirty seven of round one. Billy Q acknowledged it as

787
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 6: a mistake on social media. Highest profile fight of his career,

788
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: Barbosa proving that he is still able to get it

789
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 6: done on a pretty elite level. Billy Corntell is about

790
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 6: a two to one favorite here. You know him, well, Ray,

791
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,959
Speaker 6: what were your thoughts on the co main event?

792
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,560
Speaker 4: You know my thoughts on the co main events? I

793
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 4: think Billy's style, the way that fight was going, Like,

794
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 4: if you know, if he didn't even go for the takedown,

795
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 4: I think he eventually would have been a war of

796
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 4: attrition that I think he would have won. It looked

797
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 4: like he was pressing him back. He was getting off

798
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: his shots. I think he did the same maybe takedown

799
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: a couple of times in a row. And you know

800
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: Edston caught him with the knee. Was he just got caught.

801
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 4: I think that fight, I think it was. People are

802
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 4: gonna disagree. I think it was going in his favor.

803
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 4: I really do, because I think he's that fighter that

804
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,959
Speaker 4: has to absorb punishment, but he could certainly dish it out.

805
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 4: And I don't think Edson's at the point now where

806
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 4: he he could take that type of pressure for three rounds.

807
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,680
Speaker 4: So I think mixing the takedowns was a beautiful strategy.

808
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 4: But I think Billy probably would have out toughed him.

809
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 4: But with that being said, just tats off to Edson

810
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 4: and he did catch him with the knee. And you know,

811
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 4: he is one of the scariest fires. I don't know

812
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 4: about now, but back in the day he was not.

813
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 4: You know, he was not playing around this whipping those kicks.

814
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 4: But you know, guys get older, things slow down, you know,

815
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 4: which was part of the fascinating thing with Max. I

816
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 4: think you were saying, Kenny, you saw it like kind

817
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 4: of kinks in his arm up Those kinks were he's

818
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 4: hiding them. Well, I think if he's got them, I don't.

819
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 4: I don't think he's the he's the aggressive Max, but man,

820
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: he's still in there and you can't really touch him

821
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 4: too often and he could always offset you. And uh,

822
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 4: you know, I think you know, had some Barbosa's goat

823
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: mynmem all over the place, had some Barbosa's. Game is

824
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: like a power playing game, right, He's smashing those kicks,

825
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:10,439
Speaker 4: He's ripping good body combinations with his hands, and that's

826
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 4: the first thing to probably go right. So I think

827
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 4: Billy it looked like that fight was going his way

828
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 4: until he got kneed. I could be one hundred percent wrong,

829
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 4: but Billy's a tough, in your face type of guy,

830
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: and I think, you know, those are the fights that

831
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 4: it's in that's trouble with guys coming forward, Uh normally

832
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 4: have a little more power. You know, they have the

833
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: big right hands that he just can't take. And I

834
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: don't know. I think he's he'll he'll be he'll come

835
00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 4: back stronger from that fight. So hats off to both guys.

836
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 6: Kenny. Some suggesting Billy Q got a little bit sloppy

837
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 6: there on that sequence that ended the fight, But Barboza

838
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 6: did say in some post fight interview that he had

839
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 6: drilled that knee for eight weeks. And say what you

840
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: want about American Top Team. They've realized wild success, but

841
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 6: they are nothing if not strategists, right, Like a lot

842
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 6: of these guys are really thinkers, film studiers. It's a

843
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 6: big win for Ed's and barbos He had a window

844
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 6: and man, did he fucking closed the show. He's got

845
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: one of the best highlight reels in the history of

846
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 6: the sport.

847
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 5: Absolutely, I mean att they clearly did their homework. They

848
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 5: had a phenomenal weekend. And you know I've mentioned this before,

849
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 5: but it's a paradox, right the things that make us

850
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,879
Speaker 5: who we are there there there are strengths, but they

851
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 5: also could be our weakness. And I think Billy Q

852
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 5: is extremely aggressive. It's what makes him such a problem

853
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 5: to deal with, but also in doing so, he can

854
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:36,399
Speaker 5: be a little bit too reckless sometimes. And Barbosa at

855
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 5: his age is clearly still very very dangerous. I thought

856
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 5: he was he was fighting the right fight. He just

857
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 5: threw himself out of position. He was in line for

858
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 5: that knee. Barbosa caught a man and obviously they must

859
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 5: have seen something in tape that gave them the idea

860
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 5: that that would be a good thing to throw U

861
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 5: and it landed perfectly. You know, Billy Q is so

862
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 5: dang tough man. He makes every single fight exciting. And

863
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 5: for Barbosa, who's been around this sport a long time,

864
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 5: who has experienced a lot of ups and downs, to

865
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 5: see him come back to also one of the nicest

866
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 5: guys in the sports, you gotta feel happy for him

867
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 5: as well. But Billy Q will be back. He'll be back,

868
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 5: He'll be stronger and tougher than ever. And you know,

869
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 5: it was a great fight while it lasted.

870
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, well put I agree one hundred percent, and

871
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 4: really two of the nicest guys in the game. So again,

872
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 4: like I don't want to take away anything from Bobo's

873
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 4: at deep time, that knee perfectly heats off to those

874
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 4: guys for game plan, and I just I did like

875
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,959
Speaker 4: what I was seeing at the beginning of the fight.

876
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: I think he had him on the back foot, which

877
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 4: is where you got to put Bobo's. You can't let

878
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 4: that guy come forward and get really aggressive with his

879
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 4: striking because he does everything too fast and too hard,

880
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 4: and he got caught you know, so I think you

881
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,959
Speaker 4: know it wasn't a prolonged beating. I think he jumps

882
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 4: right back in there.

883
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 6: And as your guy, Matt Ravolan, not the greatest teammate

884
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 6: in the history professionals, start right with Billy que every

885
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 6: step of the goddamn way.

886
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, those guys got a great friendship. Look, that's why

887
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 4: I you know me, I'm always pushing. I love the

888
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 4: friendships in the gym. And you know he those guys

889
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 4: around Joe and Morab, that's Billy Kew and Frovola. You know,

890
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 4: they got a great thing going, and they'll have that

891
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 4: thing going forever.

892
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot of camaraderie, all spearheaded by the great

893
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 6: very long ago. All right, a couple more things before

894
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 6: we get you go. Francis Marshall coming up here.

895
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 5: Top of the hour.

896
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 6: If we were on the radio, Top of the hour

897
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 6: would actually mean something. An a Camp Floran podcast presented

898
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,879
Speaker 6: by DraftKings, Pedro Munoz over Chris Gudierras thirty twenty seven

899
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 6: across the Board, another fight similarly priced to Edson Barboza

900
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,160
Speaker 6: and Billy Corntell, and once again it's an American top

901
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 6: team veteran reminding an oncoming contender that they're still there.

902
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 6: Would you think of Pedro Raymond?

903
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 4: I thought Pedro fought beautifully. I thought he got the

904
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 4: job done. I think thirty twenty seven I think was

905
00:43:56,760 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: the scores that was that was perfect. Happy to see it. Man,

906
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 4: he's had some tough fights. I think he had a

907
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 4: couple of fights I could have won his way that didn't.

908
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,719
Speaker 4: So it's good to see him get back in the

909
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: win column or stay in the wind cat home because

910
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: I thought he did great. He controlled that whole to

911
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 4: pace of that whole fight Kenny.

912
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 6: A little bit of a crossroads fight for these two

913
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 6: bandam weights. A lot of people felt like Gutierrez was

914
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 6: going to take that next step at one hundred and

915
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 6: thirty five pounds. Instead it's Munyo's humbling him a little bit.

916
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,400
Speaker 6: I still think Gutierrez one of the best in this division,

917
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 6: and I still think he's going to find himself in

918
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 6: a big fight. But Munyo's proven that he's still got

919
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 6: plenty of plenty of hunger left to try to make

920
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 6: his own run here. Potentially a badon weight.

921
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 5: No question about that. I think Munios really surprised him

922
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 5: and when he rocked Gutierres, I think it took away

923
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 5: a lot of his confidence. Man, he was moving good.

924
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 5: And again you look at Kutierra's and you know what

925
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 5: seven eight fights in a row that he had as

926
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 5: far as wins go, he fought completely different against those

927
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 5: guys that he did against Munos. I don't know if

928
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:04,040
Speaker 5: it was maybe giving Munyos too much respect. And then after,

929
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 5: you know, so he was a little hesitant, I thought

930
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 5: to begin with, and then you see him get caught

931
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 5: with that one shot, and he just wasn't throwing a

932
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 5: whole lot of shots at Munos like it was almost

933
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 5: like he was in a sparring fight. And then he

934
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 5: started to fight to not lose, and that's always a

935
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 5: dangerous thing and we can all fall victim to that.

936
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: But I think Gutierres didn't give himself enough credit. And

937
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: I don't know if he fought Munyos. I think he

938
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 5: more kind of wanted to hang in there with Munyos,

939
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 5: and I don't know, And again I don't want to

940
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:39,719
Speaker 5: take away from Munos. I thought Munyos was clearly energized

941
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 5: and realized that he needed that win. Fought a great fight,

942
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,440
Speaker 5: was always kind of a step ahead fought hard and

943
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 5: and won pretty much every single round. So it was

944
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,200
Speaker 5: a great performance from Munyos, who deserves to stay in

945
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 5: the UFC and deserves to be one of the top

946
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:57,919
Speaker 5: top bantamweights out there.

947
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 6: Before we let you go, Matt Frovola drew Dover. We

948
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:05,799
Speaker 6: know about Dover's power, we know that he has been

949
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 6: hit able at times. It's a fascinating fight. A lot

950
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 6: of people expect them to just bite down on the

951
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 6: gum shield and meet in the middle. But I gotta

952
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,399
Speaker 6: think that you've been in for Vola's ear about those

953
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 6: first one hundred and twenty seconds and how to navigate those.

954
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 4: Well, you know, sometimes you can be in a guy's here, John,

955
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 4: and you still don't know what's gonna happen, right right.

956
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 4: His natural predilection is to do exactly what you just said.

957
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,440
Speaker 4: But we'll work. We're working on it. I think you'll

958
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 4: see a different for Vola. And he's using his head

959
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 4: and the combination of brains and his power I think

960
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 4: will serve him really good in this fight.

961
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:41,359
Speaker 5: All right.

962
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 6: Before I let you go, you know you got nothing

963
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 6: on Teddy Atlas when it comes to your wind. But

964
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,720
Speaker 6: you are very short lipped when it comes to your guys,

965
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 6: like if I ask you now about Brandon Royvall, you'll

966
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 6: give me two minutes. But when I start to get

967
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 6: on your guys, talk about Matt Fravola, your whole tone

968
00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 6: and tenor chain.

969
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,839
Speaker 4: Uh. Look, I think I try to keep it as

970
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 4: short as possible with everything. No, that's why I love

971
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 4: listening to Kenny. He does. I'm gonna do that one day.

972
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,319
Speaker 4: I'm gonna do with Kenny and I'm gonna break. I'm

973
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 4: just gonna go along with a couple of things. I'm

974
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 4: gonna look at a fight and write it. But I

975
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 4: just look at control the pace he was winning the fight.

976
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 4: I don't know what else do you want me to say,

977
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 4: but uh, you know some.

978
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 6: I want you to talk to me about Brandon Royval.

979
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 4: Royvel's a dog man man Rode who made that guy

980
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 4: an underdog in that fight. He's he's tough, that kid,

981
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: He's always been tough. He's got great experience. He's one

982
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 4: hundred percent of problem at that in that division.

983
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think Ray did just drop a predilocation. Maybe

984
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:49,839
Speaker 6: you were gonna say proclivity, pension, I said predilection.

985
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: I'll have to look that up.

986
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 6: Predilection. That is a big word. I know proclivity, I

987
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 6: know pension, predit, predit, what is it?

988
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 4: Predilection?

989
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 6: Had election?

990
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 4: Wow? So, Kenny, did you just make sure I used

991
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 4: it right? Hey?

992
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 6: Uh, Kenny, real quick? Did you see Brandon Royvall over

993
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 6: Matthews Nicole? I did, dude, I'm telling you, man, like

994
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 6: I know, Flyways a little bit crowded. We're gonna get

995
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 6: Brandon Moreno and Aleschandre Pantosia second time for the belt.

996
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 6: But at this point, like if Royvall promoter's dream man,

997
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 6: he's the most watchable guy in the roster.

998
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: Haven't fu belt that?

999
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: I couldn't believe when I found out he was an underdog. Yeah,

1000
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 4: only because we're not allowed to bet, so I don't

1001
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:33,600
Speaker 4: really look anymore.

1002
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 6: Well, if you do want to help us fund Rey

1003
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 6: Longo's trip to Hawaii to start a fund, get Ray

1004
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,360
Speaker 6: to the fiftieth state and we'll see if by the

1005
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 6: end of twenty twenty three we can send you and

1006
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 6: your wife to uh Hawaii on the pod?

1007
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 4: What are these guys are the best? Man? Wow? I

1008
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 4: feel a love. I feel a love every week. This

1009
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,319
Speaker 4: is phenomenal. A right, guys, I'm mad here.

1010
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 6: Thank you, buddy.

1011
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 4: I have great say that. Rest of the way, there is.

1012
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 6: The Ray Longo minute every week here on the Anik

1013
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,480
Speaker 6: and Florian Podcast. So I was talking to my wife

1014
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 6: last night and as we talk about raising money for

1015
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 6: Ray to go to Hawaii, I wanted to come up

1016
00:49:12,920 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 6: with something that we could do and perhaps opening it

1017
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 6: up to the listenership and the viewership is the way

1018
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 6: to go. But almost like I wanted to do like

1019
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 6: a scholarship for like a prelim Fighter of the year

1020
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 6: in the UFC, like the Anakin Florian podcast scholarship, where

1021
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 6: at the end of a year we would give like

1022
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 6: five thousand dollars to a fighter who has not competed

1023
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 6: on the main car. By the way, Ken Fli has

1024
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 6: never fought on a prelim in his life, but this

1025
00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 6: would be a fighter that is coming up, maybe there

1026
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 6: are some hard life circumstances, and based upon what they

1027
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 6: accomplished in twenty twenty three as a prelim fighter in

1028
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 6: the UFC, we give them five grand at the end

1029
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 6: of the year. I thought it would be a cool

1030
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 6: promotion for the show, and I think too we would

1031
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 6: get inundated with requests from the listenership. Oh, you should

1032
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:57,879
Speaker 6: give it to this guy. You don't know what he's

1033
00:49:57,920 --> 00:49:59,439
Speaker 6: been through. So I thought it would be a cool thing.

1034
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 6: But at this point we need to move on because

1035
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,879
Speaker 6: now joining us on the guest line is a man

1036
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:07,239
Speaker 6: who we've been looking forward to talking to. Look how

1037
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 6: fucking handsome. This guy is sorry for the foul language,

1038
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,160
Speaker 6: but he immediately elevates the whole room. This man's first

1039
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 6: professional knockout came at a good time last December, when

1040
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 6: he made his UFC debut UFC Featherweight out of Jersey City,

1041
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 6: New Jersey. Francis Marshall is with us. Good afternoon, my man,

1042
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 6: welcome to fight week. We appreciate a few minutes. How

1043
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,399
Speaker 6: you doing.

1044
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 7: I'm good, how are you guys? Thank you for having me.

1045
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 6: It's our pleasure.

1046
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: Man.

1047
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 6: So I was watching an interview this morning, and I

1048
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 6: hate to sort of start with a melancholy tone, but

1049
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 6: your uncle passed away on that Thursday, two days before

1050
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 6: you made your UFC debut, and it seems like you

1051
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 6: guys were pretty close. He was your dad's brother, and

1052
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 6: I guess I'm just curious how you navigated that circumstance

1053
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 6: when they found when you found out, and was anybody

1054
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 6: in your family maybe inclined to not tell you, just

1055
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 6: given the magnitude of what you were walking into that

1056
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 6: Saturday night.

1057
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was more of like, don't mention it,

1058
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: don't say anything until after the fight.

1059
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 7: And then that Thursday morning, I was just driving around

1060
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 7: with my dad.

1061
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 2: I think we were going to a couple of stores,

1062
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 2: and my uncle lived in Orlando, So I was like, Oh,

1063
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 2: how's uncle Greg doing whatever? Because he wasn't doing too

1064
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,760
Speaker 2: well at that point anyway, and then that's when.

1065
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 7: He told me. He was like, oh, Greg died last night.

1066
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: And then so I don't think they were gonna tell me,

1067
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 2: and then kind of just put it in the back

1068
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:23,319
Speaker 2: of my head and focus on the fight.

1069
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:23,720
Speaker 4: First.

1070
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 6: Wow, well man, did you focus on the fight? And

1071
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 6: I know you acknowledged some maybe pre fight UFC jitters,

1072
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:33,160
Speaker 6: but any nerves seemed to dissipate pretty quickly. How did

1073
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 6: you feel overall about the way you navigated that first

1074
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 6: fight week?

1075
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 7: I felt pretty good overall.

1076
00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 2: I mean it was a lot different than usual, a

1077
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,319
Speaker 2: lot bigger lights, you know, more stuff to do, But

1078
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 2: overall I felt I definitely had the pre fight jitters

1079
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 2: and nerves, but I think after a couple of minutes

1080
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 2: into the first round, I kind of shook them off.

1081
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 5: So, Matt, you've been training with Kurt Pellaquino. How long

1082
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: have you been training with Kurt and how has that

1083
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,240
Speaker 5: helped you, you know, get into the UFC.

1084
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: Man, I've been with him for ten years now, so

1085
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 2: just having him in the corner and helping out in

1086
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 2: all the fights, you know, with all his experience, it's

1087
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 2: it's definitely helped me a lot.

1088
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 7: Because the UFC, I think.

1089
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's been talking about you a long time.

1090
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 7: Man.

1091
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,440
Speaker 5: So was that always a part of your plan, like

1092
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 5: I want to get into the UFC or was there

1093
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:26,160
Speaker 5: a certain point You're like, Okay, this is a realistic goal. Man.

1094
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 2: It was always a goal in a dream of mind,

1095
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Like it was always my vision to fight in the

1096
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 2: UFC and chase a UFC championship.

1097
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,319
Speaker 7: So it's always been there. It's just a matter of

1098
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 7: time when it was going to happen.

1099
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,720
Speaker 5: How do you break down your next opponent?

1100
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: Man, So he's he's more of a lanky kickboxer southpaw,

1101
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: and then I'm a shorter, orthodox wrestler grappler, So I

1102
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 2: think it's going to be more of that, like grappler

1103
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 2: versus striker matchup again, something like that. So he throws

1104
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: a lot of kicks, a lot of punch is very unorthodox,

1105
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: I guess, in his kicks and stuff.

1106
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 7: So we've been game planning a lot for him.

1107
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 6: UFC Featherway Francis Marshall with us here on the Anakin

1108
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 6: Florian Podcast seven and zero. You can see him flight

1109
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 6: on you on ESPN Plus this weekend live from the

1110
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 6: Ufcapex in Las Vegas. I want to go back to

1111
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 6: your Contender Series win in August of twenty twenty two,

1112
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 6: because when we sat down in our Fighter meeting, you

1113
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 6: sort of mentioned that that fight forced you to open

1114
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,520
Speaker 6: up with your box and then you go and produce

1115
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 6: a knockout like that. How do you navigate that now?

1116
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 6: Fallen in love with the hands as DC says, you know,

1117
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 6: Gilbert Durinho Burns loves that knockout life. How do you

1118
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 6: navigate that now that you've produced this huge knockout on

1119
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 6: the world's biggest stage.

1120
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 2: I think it's just more of sticking to the game

1121
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: plan and not getting too over zealous looking for a

1122
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 2: knockout in the next one, you know, just try to

1123
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:48,879
Speaker 2: stick to the.

1124
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 7: Game plan of what we have always worked for us

1125
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 7: and what we've always.

1126
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: Done, and if it opens up, you know, if I

1127
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: rocking with a right hand or a left hand and

1128
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 2: you see him wobbling a little bit, then and try

1129
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 2: to go for the finish. But I'm not going to

1130
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: look to blow my load on another knockout, just right.

1131
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:10,120
Speaker 6: So you're a purple belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu, do

1132
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,560
Speaker 6: you still train in the gee or no?

1133
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 7: Not as much as Kurt would like me too.

1134
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,080
Speaker 6: Right, that's a hard thing to admit in front of

1135
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 6: the seven stripe Brazilian jiu Jitsu Black Bess Kenny Floyd

1136
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:22,720
Speaker 6: as well. How many stripes they put on those belts.

1137
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 6: By the way stripe, what's the max stripe? Kenny? I

1138
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 6: don't know a all right, Okay, n I don't know idea,

1139
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,319
Speaker 6: but you do have four wins by submission, all by

1140
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 6: way of the rear naked choke. And I guess I'm

1141
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 6: curious how you would describe your offensive jiu jitsu, because

1142
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 6: we do spend a lot of time on this show

1143
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:43,120
Speaker 6: talking about offensive jiu jitsu and how a lot of

1144
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,360
Speaker 6: guys just don't have submissions man, So it seems like

1145
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 6: the rear naked shoke is your go to. But how

1146
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 6: would you describe your jiu jitsu game.

1147
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 2: Definitely a lot of pressure top dominant, like a lot

1148
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: of pressure passing, and then once you open up the

1149
00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,439
Speaker 2: passing and I just try to for mma purposes more

1150
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: punches and elbows and then that's when you get them

1151
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 2: to turn and then you could sink in the choke.

1152
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1153
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 2: So it's just a lot of pressure on them and

1154
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 2: just really just scoring as much as possible.

1155
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 6: So your dad, Steve, your mom, Colleen, your siblings, I

1156
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 6: know you have an older brother and an older sister.

1157
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,560
Speaker 6: What was their reaction after you did what you did

1158
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 6: in your UFC debut.

1159
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 7: Oh, they were very hap, They're excited.

1160
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 2: My sister was actually at Miami Airport and she was

1161
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: watching it, and I think some lady was recording her

1162
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 2: while she was going crazy, because well she thought she

1163
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: was just that much of a fan that she was

1164
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:36,840
Speaker 2: going crazy for a random person, So kind of funny.

1165
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 7: But yeah, they were all pretty excited.

1166
00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:41,799
Speaker 6: That's cool. So you started privates with Pellegrino when you

1167
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:46,080
Speaker 6: were fourteen. You were born March third, nineteen ninety nine.

1168
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 6: How about that can flow better year to be born

1169
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 6: than say nineteen seventy six, right, nineteen.

1170
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh my god.

1171
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,640
Speaker 6: But what did Kurt say after the UFC debut. I'd

1172
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,680
Speaker 6: imagine that you gave him something to work with, even

1173
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 6: though the result was outstanding.

1174
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 7: I mean not much, not much negative I say.

1175
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean he's not not that he's a negative person,

1176
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 2: but not much like to work out more just like

1177
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: getting the nerves out next time, you know, just being

1178
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 2: opening up sooner and just listening to the corner like

1179
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: I did. Like he's like, seeh, I told you it

1180
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: would work. Sit down on that right hand, and that's

1181
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: that's what landed.

1182
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 6: So I consider Kurk Pelagreno to be somewhat of a

1183
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 6: personal rival. We were at Kenny Florian's wedding in South

1184
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 6: Carolina and there actually became need for a last minute

1185
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 6: replacement groomsman, and Kenny chose Kurt. Now in two thousand times,

1186
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 6: I think he would choose me, but he chose Kurt

1187
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:42,200
Speaker 6: at the time. So I say this somewhat tongue in cheek.

1188
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 6: But the juxtaposition between you clean cut and I'm not

1189
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,360
Speaker 6: saying the Kurt's not handsome, but pel a greeno is

1190
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 6: all over the fucking joint and he's got this clean

1191
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,000
Speaker 6: cut kid in this corner. It's just a diame between

1192
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 6: the two of you, guys. I don't know if I'm

1193
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,839
Speaker 6: even looking for a comment, but it is interesting when

1194
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,160
Speaker 6: I see you two together, because it does seem a

1195
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 6: little bit like an odd couple to me.

1196
00:57:02,120 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 7: It's like opposite. It's a track, you know.

1197
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go, a little overgrown, bushy and clean

1198
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: cut young.

1199
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 6: Yeah. So you're still a firefighter. You're still doing the

1200
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 6: twenty four hours on and the seventy two hours off?

1201
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 6: Is that right?

1202
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 7: Yep? Up in Jersey City. I'm still still up there,

1203
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 7: actually off now until after the fight, which is nice.

1204
00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 6: And you've had a lot of support from the department.

1205
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:24,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1206
00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, So that twenty four on seventy two off. A

1207
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 6: lot of our listeners can't really relate to that. I

1208
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 6: essentially stay up twenty four hours usually for the UFC events,

1209
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:39,360
Speaker 6: right after the live event. But how do you how

1210
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 6: do you navigate those final few hours in terms of

1211
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 6: making sure that you're that you're sharpest attack when you need.

1212
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 7: To be, like final few hours at work, that shift.

1213
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, that hour number twenty one of a twenty four

1214
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 6: hour shift.

1215
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts to get a little draining, but you

1216
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 2: kind of see the light at the end of the tunnel.

1217
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I over the years have kind of grown

1218
00:57:58,080 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 2: accustomed to it.

1219
00:57:58,880 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 4: You know.

1220
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 2: It's kind of just like had it now, so just

1221
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 2: I call waking up in the middle of the night.

1222
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 2: It's not always the greatest thing, but I mean it's

1223
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,440
Speaker 2: not always something crazy going on. Sometimes it's just like

1224
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 2: a nuisance alarm and stuff like that. But still got

1225
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 2: to get up, go out and go through the whole process.

1226
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, some of our listeners suggesting that you're a better

1227
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:19,400
Speaker 6: firefighter than Stepe, a bit more agile, but we're not

1228
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 6: going to ask a comment on that. Before I let

1229
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 6: you go, I wanted to get your thoughts on Raoul

1230
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 6: Rosas Junior and also the Max Holloway Arnold Allen main event,

1231
00:58:28,080 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 6: because I think as we spin it forward for you

1232
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 6: in this division, I'm curious how you feel about the

1233
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 6: elite fighters. But when you see Raoul Rosas Junior get

1234
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 6: to the UFC at eighteen as a young fighter yourself,

1235
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 6: and you see him realize success and then kind of

1236
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 6: fall flat in his second UFC appearance, are you thinking

1237
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 6: he's there way too early, or like, what is your

1238
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 6: thought when you see like an eighteen year old kid

1239
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 6: kicking off a UFC pay per view in Miami.

1240
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean the pay per view thing I saw with

1241
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people was a little bit iffy. I mean,

1242
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,440
Speaker 2: Calvin Gasloman, Chris Curtis, there's a lot of people saying

1243
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 2: they should have been on there.

1244
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 7: But for him to make it at eighteen, I mean,

1245
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 7: good for him.

1246
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: If someone presented me the opportunity when I was seventeen

1247
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: years old to fight in the Contender Series and then

1248
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,880
Speaker 2: give me a contract after that fight when I was eighteen,

1249
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 2: I would one hundred percent took that.

1250
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have said no, I'm too young, you know,

1251
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 7: let me wait. I would have jumped all over it

1252
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 7: like he did. And that's good for him.

1253
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 2: But I think there's a lot of growing time for

1254
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 2: him and experience and kind of building into his own body.

1255
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,439
Speaker 2: Because at eighteen, when I was eighteen to now even

1256
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: just six years later, I feel completely different, just physically,

1257
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,240
Speaker 2: So I think he's got a lot of room to work.

1258
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 7: I mean, it's not the end of the career. I mean,

1259
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 7: you have, right one.

1260
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 2: Loss isn't going to kill you. He's got a lot

1261
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 2: of people behind him. I'm sure he a lot of

1262
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 2: great coaches and people want to go work with him

1263
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 2: and help him out.

1264
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 7: So I think he has a bright future ahead of him.

1265
00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 6: It's a good answer from a bright young man. And

1266
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 6: before we let you go to what extent are you

1267
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 6: keeping tabs on the UFC as a whole? The ELIF

1268
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 6: fighters in your division? Like, are you locked in like

1269
00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 6: the rest of us watching Max Holloway on a Allen

1270
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,640
Speaker 6: last Saturday night A little.

1271
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,919
Speaker 7: I watched that yesterday when I was working out.

1272
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: So I usually like to watch most of the featherweight

1273
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: fights just to keep an eye on where everyone's at

1274
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 2: and how everyone's doing.

1275
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 7: So it's just those are probably the main ones that

1276
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 7: I watched the most.

1277
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 6: All right, Well, you can see Francis Marshall fight French

1278
01:00:17,040 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 6: striker William Gomes live on ESPN Plus this weekend. Man, eventually,

1279
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 6: I think you got to pivot away from that Pellegrino cap.

1280
01:00:22,920 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 6: But I'm just kidding. Hey, thank you for the time,

1281
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 6: my man. You know you got supporters in this room,

1282
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 6: and we'll be watching live on Saturday night. We wish

1283
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: you all the best and we sincerely appreciate your time. Brother.

1284
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 7: Thank you, guys, I appreciate it.

1285
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 6: There he is Francis is Fire Marshall with us here

1286
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 6: on the Anak and Florian Podcast. Gotta take a couple

1287
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 6: of digs at peligree. You know, somebody firing back. I

1288
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 6: think it was Jeff Gallo who wrote a tweet and

1289
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,160
Speaker 6: there's a reference to some movie. But he said it.

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01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:55,280
Speaker 6: I think UFC one seventy four that Michael Kiesa looks

1291
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 6: like he has been living on a bus in Alaska

1292
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 6: eating poisonous plants. Right, I'm sure that reference is gonna

1293
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:07,120
Speaker 6: hit home with a lot of our viewers. Into the

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Speaker 6: Rising Sun. There's some movie I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Chris Candless, Chris McCandless. Yeah, yeah, the story of Chris

1296
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Speaker 5: mc candles.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So Kurt Pellegrino at times looks like he's been

1298
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 6: living on a bus in Alaska and poisonous plants, and

1299
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Speaker 6: then he's got this Francis Marshall, who is clean as

1300
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 6: a whistle. Born March third, nineteen ninety nine. But we

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01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 6: appreciate Francis Marshall joining us today and just having a

1302
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 6: little bit of fun. Everybody's so sensitive, right, and my

1303
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 6: twin brother's gonna be like, you're fucking sensitive, you know.

1304
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 6: But uh, hopefully Kirk can still take a joke. He

1305
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 6: certainly could take a joke back in the day. Gosh,

1306
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:46,600
Speaker 6: can you can you imagine?

1307
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:46,800
Speaker 4: Though?

1308
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 6: I got to sit through that wedding and they call

1309
01:01:48,840 --> 01:01:52,280
Speaker 6: Pellegrino's number Cody instead of mine. You know, dude looks

1310
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 6: like he's been on a bus in Alaska and poisoned plants.

1311
01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 6: I'm dressed to the nines.

1312
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Speaker 5: What was he gonna have? I was gonna have Pellegrino

1313
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:01,080
Speaker 5: announce us when we came out of it, I got,

1314
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, that's good. I want to use you

1315
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 5: three different ways if I could.

1316
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 6: My man, I just have that, all right. So these

1317
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Speaker 6: UFC Fight Nights are gonna keep on coming. This weekend,

1318
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 6: it is UFC Fight Night, Pavlovitch versus Blades Live from

1319
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,080
Speaker 6: the UFC Apex. To that end, let's get to the

1320
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Speaker 6: main event challenge.

1321
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 7: It's the Main Event Challenge time.

1322
01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:31,160
Speaker 6: How do you everything possible to win?

1323
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 7: It's the main event Challenge. John Hannick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

1324
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 6: You Got a bad mood, We Got the cure, Big Gun,

1325
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 6: Brian Petree with us for the Main Event challenge. I

1326
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,040
Speaker 6: do believe if I was in a really bad mood,

1327
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:46,720
Speaker 6: you'd probably be one of my first phone calls. I'm

1328
01:02:46,720 --> 01:02:49,720
Speaker 6: not even face time. See that jovial, you know.

1329
01:02:49,760 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 3: I appreciate that. I appreciate that you got a couple

1330
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 3: of people, a couple friends of mine calling me Billy

1331
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 3: now from last podcast. So I appreciate that a little

1332
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 3: bit there call me Billy big Gun. So, uh, thank you, Johnny.

1333
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 3: I'll take it. I'll take it any kind away and

1334
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 3: get it.

1335
01:03:02,560 --> 01:03:06,040
Speaker 6: So we appreciate everybody dealing with me through my technical

1336
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:08,760
Speaker 6: difficulties over the last several weeks. I'm trying to move

1337
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 6: into a studio hopefully within the next couple of months.

1338
01:03:12,800 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 6: But anybody who thought that I was so rudely cutting

1339
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:17,560
Speaker 6: off Ken Flow during the Main Event challenge last week,

1340
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,920
Speaker 6: it was nothing more than an audio issue. I assure

1341
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 6: you I would not cut off a man as dangerous

1342
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 6: as that. Multiple times over. We did repurpose the main

1343
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 6: Event challenge on the DraftKings YouTube channel, if indeed you

1344
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 6: wanted to ingest that in its totality to see how

1345
01:03:31,920 --> 01:03:34,280
Speaker 6: how poorly these guys did last week. As we update

1346
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 6: the standings. Petrie two and four, ken Flu two and four.

1347
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 6: Am I right, I'm always nervous, I'm it.

1348
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 5: I guess.

1349
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 6: Billy Petrie had nice hit on Pedro Munos plus one

1350
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 6: eighty nice. Otherwise fairly forgettable week minus two seventy your

1351
01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 6: total minus twenty eight to fifty five. Ken Flows highlight

1352
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 6: the hit on ozamont Rzakhanab plus one fifty five, but

1353
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:02,480
Speaker 6: ken Flow did take losses on Clay Gita, Tanner Boser,

1354
01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: Chris Gudieras and Billy Corn Tellers. So minus three twenty

1355
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 6: five for the week puts ken Floyd minus five seventy overall.

1356
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 6: By the way, how about Clake Gita? Mister congeniality He

1357
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:15,160
Speaker 6: may be, but try to hijack the entire broadcast after

1358
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:16,919
Speaker 6: being on the wrong end of a thirty twenty seven

1359
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Speaker 6: times three, Brian, your thoughts on that?

1360
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:22,919
Speaker 3: I thought Dana said it best. I'm like, oh shit,

1361
01:04:22,920 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 3: we're getting another retirement. He took his gloves off. You know,

1362
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 3: he's forty one. You expect it, and he goes, no,

1363
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 3: I'm just want to say happy birthday to whoever and day.

1364
01:04:29,840 --> 01:04:31,800
Speaker 3: I thought Dana handle that. Great's dude, we're running a

1365
01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:34,160
Speaker 3: live show here, my guy, like what are you doing?

1366
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 3: And then I kind of love Bill Augio's like weird

1367
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 3: retirement just to kind of dig at Casey a little bit.

1368
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 3: You know, Casey's Cincinnati's rivals now too. They just be

1369
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 3: Philly in the Super Bowl. So I kind of love

1370
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,560
Speaker 3: the Casey dig there when went a little heel turn

1371
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 3: on us, which I think.

1372
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Speaker 6: Well, and again people are talking about Bill Algio was

1373
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 6: a great performance. It was the fight of the night.

1374
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 6: But people buying large are talking about Billy Algio because

1375
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 6: of the post fight interview. All right, yep, first fight

1376
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,680
Speaker 6: for US welter Wait bang it a kick off the

1377
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 6: main cat Jeremiah Wells minus one thirty five Matthew Semmelsberger

1378
01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 6: plus one fifteen though Semmelsberger football highlights hit hard, used

1379
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,880
Speaker 6: to hit like a truck. As a strong safety for Marist,

1380
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 6: He's won three of four, coming off a big win

1381
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 6: over Jake Matthews last December. Wells on the other side

1382
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 6: three and zero in the UFC with as many stoppage

1383
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 6: wins Wells Billy to Wells Brian eleven to two and

1384
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 6: one overall, but he is thirty six years old so

1385
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,960
Speaker 6: time is of the essence. Hattie Handy got this one.

1386
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,000
Speaker 6: Wells and Semelsberger.

1387
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Speaker 4: Listen.

1388
01:05:33,720 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 3: I like Jeremi Wells. He's from that Philly Crue. That

1389
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 3: Philly CRU's popping right now with you know Pat Sabatini.

1390
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 3: You got Sean Brady and he's another one. He came

1391
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: to the UFC a little late and I'm sure if

1392
01:05:42,840 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: he started MMA later or not, but three to know

1393
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,240
Speaker 3: in UFC knocking out Court McGee not a fucking easy

1394
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 3: thing to do. That dude's tough. And he got Semosberger,

1395
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:55,800
Speaker 3: Semi the Jedi, Frederick Mahland stand up, you got one.

1396
01:05:56,440 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: I think this kid's good. I really do you know

1397
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 3: the Cass Williams fight, he took ninety one shots, didn't

1398
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 3: drop down Kaos Williams knocks out horses on the weekend.

1399
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 3: I mean, the dude can hit like a tank. And

1400
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,280
Speaker 3: then you got the Jake Matthews fight where Jake Matthews

1401
01:06:08,440 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 3: win against Andre Fiegel and that was the best Matthews

1402
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 3: we've seen. I was like, holy shit, this is the

1403
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 3: guy we've been waiting for. Goes in against Sellenberger is

1404
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 3: a decent little favorite. Of course, I put all my

1405
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 3: money on Jake Matthews and Selezburger rises up, hits hard.

1406
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 3: He's athletic because grappling's good. I just you know, I

1407
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 3: don't think Jeremi Wells is the best wrestler. I think

1408
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 3: he's good on the ground, good really naked joke. He

1409
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: is a finisher. But I just see Salisburger being too

1410
01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 3: big and too athletic to really get it to the ground.

1411
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 3: And as long as his volume is up, because sometimes

1412
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 3: he does kind of watch a little bit. As long

1413
01:06:36,680 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 3: as the volume up, I'll take Selemburger here at that

1414
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:39,160
Speaker 3: dog price.

1415
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 4: I like it.

1416
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: It's a little puppy dog, just a little puppy dog, not

1417
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 3: a juicy dog.

1418
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 6: But I'll take Sellemsburger, Ken Flower, Jeremiah Wells, Matthew Semmelsberger,

1419
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 6: who do you like?

1420
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 5: Yeah? I like Semlsburger as well. Man Like BP said,

1421
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:54,280
Speaker 5: that last fight kind of sold me. So I'm gonna

1422
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 5: keep it short and sweet, going with Semlsburger as well.

1423
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 6: All right, next up at lightweight, and I will admit

1424
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:03,920
Speaker 6: to being being absolutely floored by how wide this price is.

1425
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 6: It's come down a little Bobby King Green minus two

1426
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 6: to eighty Jared Flash Gordon plus two thirty five uf

1427
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 6: SE appearance number twenty one for the King who can

1428
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 6: now lay claim to more than ten years on the

1429
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:19,080
Speaker 6: UFC roster. Gordon on the other side, Really Brian should

1430
01:07:19,080 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 6: have won five of his last six, but instead he

1431
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 6: was on the wrong end of that Patty pimblet split,

1432
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 6: so now he's lost two of his last three. Big

1433
01:07:25,960 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 6: spot for Jared Gordon is underdog. Who do you like

1434
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 6: at one hundred and fifty five pounds, I'm mean.

1435
01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 3: To hit the nail on the head when when this

1436
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 3: price opened, you're like, wait, what what's going on here?

1437
01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: And then if you the props are not yet, But

1438
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 3: if you get Jared Gordon by decision, that's going to

1439
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:39,520
Speaker 3: be four or five to one. If you're a value guy,

1440
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 3: put a twenty five spot rate there, you know, get

1441
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 3: a hundred bucks a quick hondy. But I'm kind of

1442
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 3: trying to switch things up because I'm a little cold.

1443
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 3: So I took away the numbers and I went down

1444
01:07:49,880 --> 01:07:52,520
Speaker 3: the fighting and what skill or skill here? And Jared

1445
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: Gordon is a very talented fighter. He's a pressure fighter.

1446
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,760
Speaker 3: He can get you down the patty fight. I felt like,

1447
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 3: if you would have done more on the ground. I

1448
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 3: thought it would have been a clear cut decision for him.

1449
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: For like takedowns, just getting a takedowns down enough anymore,

1450
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,760
Speaker 3: You got to show some damage, You got to do things.

1451
01:08:05,920 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 3: Bobby Green does have some good takedown offense. I don't

1452
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 3: let it fool you. This guy is some good takedown defense.

1453
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:12,160
Speaker 3: He's coming off a fight with Drew Dober where he

1454
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:15,000
Speaker 3: hurt Drew Dober a few times, a guy who's a

1455
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 3: volume punchers all starting starting to find a little bit

1456
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 3: of power. Then you got clipped by Dover. Before that

1457
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,160
Speaker 3: he fought Islam, made a bag short notice. What are

1458
01:08:22,160 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: you gonna do with Islam? But before that you got

1459
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,200
Speaker 3: Nashar Happaraz where he pieced him up hundred sixteen and

1460
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 3: then he knocked out Ala Quinta, which I know Ali

1461
01:08:29,160 --> 01:08:31,920
Speaker 3: Quinta is not. That wasn't the real raging owl. But

1462
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,400
Speaker 3: still that's a finish win. And Bobby's slicking there.

1463
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:34,519
Speaker 4: Man.

1464
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 3: He likes to put his back against the cage and

1465
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,479
Speaker 3: he's very slick and I like that. And Jared Gordon

1466
01:08:38,760 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: has been knocked out before three times in the UFC.

1467
01:08:41,439 --> 01:08:43,439
Speaker 3: The one thing though, when I'm breaking down this fight is.

1468
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:44,920
Speaker 3: There seems to be a little bit of a cloud

1469
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 3: over Jared Gordon, right, and this could be a good

1470
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 3: thing or a bad thing. The Patty fight is kind

1471
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:52,519
Speaker 3: of hovering over him. Patty called him out from the

1472
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 3: hospital bed. Now, either that's going to motivate him to

1473
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 3: want to get back, get that one back, or he's like,

1474
01:08:58,080 --> 01:08:59,800
Speaker 3: you know, I just want to Patty fight. Fuck all

1475
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:02,120
Speaker 3: this my confidence of there. I know he works hard well.

1476
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,120
Speaker 3: Bobby Gan's tricky. The line is super wide. I'm going

1477
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,840
Speaker 3: Bobby Green though, going Bobby Green.

1478
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,799
Speaker 6: And I remind our anak employing podcast viewers and listeners

1479
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,240
Speaker 6: that these gentlemen can a stain from picking a fight.

1480
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 6: They just have to pick the main event. Jared Gordon

1481
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 6: plus two thirty five, Bobby Green minus two to eighty

1482
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:19,599
Speaker 6: Kenny Floury and who do you have?

1483
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 5: Yeah? I mean, I thought that was a great breakdown

1484
01:09:23,640 --> 01:09:26,520
Speaker 5: and a great background on the fight and the fighters.

1485
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 5: Jared Gordon is a tough dude, man. I think where

1486
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,559
Speaker 5: he'll be at a disadvantage though greatly in this fight,

1487
01:09:33,680 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 5: is in the speed category. Bobby Green's gonna be way

1488
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,680
Speaker 5: faster here. I also think that Jared Gordon. While he's

1489
01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:43,280
Speaker 5: getting much better at takedowns, I don't know if it's

1490
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:47,520
Speaker 5: enough to be able to take down Bobby Green consistently,

1491
01:09:48,040 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 5: keep him there, get good position, and be a legit threat.

1492
01:09:52,200 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 5: I think that would be the path to victory here

1493
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,479
Speaker 5: because Bobby Green isn't known for his ground game. But

1494
01:09:58,560 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 5: I just don't know if he's gonna be able to

1495
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 5: take him down and take him down and keep him down.

1496
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 5: So I like Bobby Green here as well. I think

1497
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:06,920
Speaker 5: this fight will probably stand the feet. I think a

1498
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,519
Speaker 5: tough Jared Gordon will last the probably to the end.

1499
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 5: But Bobby Green certainly has popping those punches, so watch

1500
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 5: out there. But I like Green here as well, and.

1501
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:18,600
Speaker 6: A ton of experience for Bobby Green. Three more appearances

1502
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 6: last year, lost to Islami Kashevn of course, Drew Dover

1503
01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:25,040
Speaker 6: to close out his twenty twenty two all Right featured

1504
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 6: bout at middleweight Brad Tavoris minus one fifty five Bruno

1505
01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,640
Speaker 6: Silva plus one thirty five twenty second UFC appearance for

1506
01:10:32,680 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 6: Brad Tavores coming off Briye pretty brutal loss to Drake

1507
01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 6: is Duplessi last July. Tavors then pulled out of the

1508
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 6: schedule Belt versus Gregory Rodriguez that was to be in

1509
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 6: Rio back in January. On the other side, Bruno Silva,

1510
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:50,080
Speaker 6: somewhat underappreciated, most famous for fighting Alex Padata to a

1511
01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:53,080
Speaker 6: decision that was thirteen months ago. Then he was submitted

1512
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,920
Speaker 6: by GM three last August. So now Silva trying to

1513
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 6: avoid a third straight l here BP, who do you have?

1514
01:10:58,800 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1515
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 3: I love this fight. You know, Brad Tavars mixes up well,

1516
01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,360
Speaker 3: but he's not You look at his last two fights.

1517
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't really attempt to take downs and the justice

1518
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,360
Speaker 3: duplus he's fight. He got dropped three times, he got

1519
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 3: rocked a lot in that fight. He's just so tough.

1520
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 4: I mean uh.

1521
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 3: And then you got Bruno Silva, who was kind of

1522
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 3: the guy coming in. This dude touches you. He puts

1523
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 3: you ati for Pereira, who some people out there maybe

1524
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,040
Speaker 3: think he won that fight. I did not, but it

1525
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 3: was a close fight. He went to a decision in Peyra.

1526
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 3: But then he just looks like a dud against GM three,

1527
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: And that's what GM three kind of does. Either he's

1528
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,160
Speaker 3: not on or he's on, and he was piecing up

1529
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 3: Silva on the feet and then obviously took him to

1530
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 3: God and submitted, and Silva's cardio lacked a little bit.

1531
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:36,240
Speaker 3: I think this is do or die for Silva. I

1532
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,439
Speaker 3: think if he loses this one as three in or,

1533
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 3: I think the UFC is gonna go you know what,

1534
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:42,960
Speaker 3: you maybe aren't who we thought you were. Go go

1535
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 3: go win somewhere else and come back. That's what I think.

1536
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 3: He's an exciting fighter. He punches, he has big punch

1537
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 3: of power, and that's what's society factor here. I'm surprised

1538
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:53,799
Speaker 3: he's a dog here. So I'm taking Silva because Brad Tavars,

1539
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 3: even though he's only thirty five, he's been the UFC

1540
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 3: for a long time, a lot of miles on him,

1541
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:58,720
Speaker 3: and du plus Ce, who I don't think is the

1542
01:11:58,760 --> 01:12:01,120
Speaker 3: biggest power punch in the world. Optim's main times. I

1543
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:03,439
Speaker 3: think if Silva touches him, it's going to be a problem.

1544
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: So give me Silva in.

1545
01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:07,320
Speaker 6: This fight can flow nineteen career wins by knockout ur

1546
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 6: tko for Bruno Silva, who I also believe is a

1547
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 6: Brazilian jiu jitsu black belt, how do he handicap his

1548
01:12:12,280 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 6: chances here as an underdog against the UFC credentialed and

1549
01:12:16,240 --> 01:12:17,480
Speaker 6: tested Brad Tavores.

1550
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that one with Silva was a hard one for

1551
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:24,640
Speaker 5: me to wrap my head around because the one thing

1552
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,560
Speaker 5: I was thinking, I was like, is he injured? Is

1553
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,240
Speaker 5: something going on? What the heck's call? When he fought

1554
01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:32,679
Speaker 5: Alex no GM three?

1555
01:12:33,200 --> 01:12:35,519
Speaker 6: Oh when Bruno Silva fought Merchard Okay.

1556
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, got it. So that was a little confiir,

1557
01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:39,880
Speaker 5: But yeah, No, I thought he had a great fight

1558
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 5: against Prayer. I do not think he won that fight,

1559
01:12:42,280 --> 01:12:45,000
Speaker 5: but I do think he fought. He fought really well,

1560
01:12:45,000 --> 01:12:47,920
Speaker 5: and I was like, man, this kid is tough. Tavares.

1561
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 5: You know, he's been pretty consistent besides, you know, inconsistent,

1562
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 5: besides you know his like run in probably twenty twelve,

1563
01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 5: twenty thirteen where he had some consistency. He's one of

1564
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:01,120
Speaker 5: those guys that is very difficult to to bet for

1565
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:06,160
Speaker 5: or against. I think he can win this fight, but

1566
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 5: I think if we see a Silva that is motivated,

1567
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,440
Speaker 5: that feels like he needs to have a great performance

1568
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 5: and is healthy, I think Silva wins that one too.

1569
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 5: So yeah, I'm gonna go with Silva here. I don't

1570
01:13:19,320 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 5: know with Tavares. It's tough. It's tough to go against

1571
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,719
Speaker 5: him just because he's a he's a very good striker

1572
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 5: and he's tough. But I like Silvia here, all.

1573
01:13:28,760 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 6: Right, both guys like Silva at plus money this weekend

1574
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 6: UFC fight and I live on ESPN Plus. We'll have

1575
01:13:34,040 --> 01:13:36,080
Speaker 6: Petrio lead the co main event and then Ken Flow

1576
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 6: will lead us on what is a huge fight at

1577
01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 6: heavyweight to close the proceedings today. Comin event first though,

1578
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:44,479
Speaker 6: at bandonweight, Ricky Simone minus one forty Song You Don't

1579
01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 6: plus one twenty Simone might just be my favorite fighter

1580
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 6: on the roster to watch. Briy just all offense all

1581
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 6: the time. Jack Short in his last fight took his

1582
01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:56,400
Speaker 6: zer with relative ease. He's won five in a row,

1583
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,680
Speaker 6: yet still just number ten in the world because of

1584
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 6: the depth in this division. Kind of needs may Rob

1585
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 6: dwalash Willa to be champion. That would lay the foundation

1586
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:05,680
Speaker 6: for a rematch. But Song You don on the other

1587
01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,840
Speaker 6: side still only twenty five, lost to Cory Sandhagen in

1588
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,520
Speaker 6: his last fight. It was a main event last September.

1589
01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 6: You're going Ricky Simone's slight favorite here against Song you Don't.

1590
01:14:14,720 --> 01:14:16,639
Speaker 3: Did song, you don't start fighting, you know, see when

1591
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:19,320
Speaker 3: he's twelve. I mean, this guy's and he's only twenty five.

1592
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 3: It's crazy and you had to nail on the head, John,

1593
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 3: I love me some Ricky Simone. Don't call him Simon,

1594
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:29,160
Speaker 3: It's Simon, baby. This dude legitimately could almost be I mean, listen,

1595
01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 3: let's let's let's cut the bullshit right. The reason he's

1596
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:33,920
Speaker 3: ranked the way he is, and he's not getting talke

1597
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 3: about it. He got knocked out by Rye Favor, right,

1598
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 3: got knocked on the first time by a forty year

1599
01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:40,200
Speaker 3: old Ryet Favor, got caught, got knocked out, rebounded off

1600
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 3: that with the loss of a Rob Font which is

1601
01:14:42,120 --> 01:14:44,519
Speaker 3: no Shane rath Fon's a stud. The morale fight was

1602
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 3: kind of murky waters you know, whatever that referee is.

1603
01:14:46,920 --> 01:14:48,600
Speaker 3: You know, let's let's not bring that up because we

1604
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 3: don't get ready to pop on here. But this dude

1605
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 3: is legit. Like his wrestling is is good as grappling

1606
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 3: is really good. He's so heavy on top. He smothered

1607
01:14:57,760 --> 01:15:00,760
Speaker 3: an outclass jackshow on the ground. Sure, we're supposed to

1608
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,840
Speaker 3: be the guy in the ground and Simone's doing this

1609
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: by putting punches together. He's finally finding his hands. We're

1610
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 3: knocked out Raphael Sonsile, which is a good feather in

1611
01:15:09,160 --> 01:15:11,800
Speaker 3: his cap. And this guy legitimately could be should be

1612
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 3: top five talent in my opinion. He's going song you

1613
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: Don't You look at against Cory Stanaggan, which is a

1614
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:19,040
Speaker 3: step behind. I think Simone. I know, I know, Song

1615
01:15:19,040 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 3: You don does have good takedown the fence. He's training

1616
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 3: with Team Alfa Male, Team Oulta Males prepared for Samonoe before.

1617
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,759
Speaker 3: But I think this pace is too much with Simone.

1618
01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 3: I love this number two minus one thirty. This is

1619
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 3: going to be a hammer spot for your boy. I'm

1620
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: not gonna go too crazy because I'm down a little bit,

1621
01:15:34,479 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 3: but uh I'm gonna go an extra UNI on Simone

1622
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,479
Speaker 3: because we need it, bag, we need it, And I

1623
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:41,439
Speaker 3: think he's a win by decision songs, a tough dude,

1624
01:15:41,439 --> 01:15:43,000
Speaker 3: but I just think Simone's gonna pull it out. I

1625
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,439
Speaker 3: think he's better everywhere, maybe lacks a little bit of

1626
01:15:45,479 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: a power, but give me Ricky Simone, all right. So

1627
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:51,679
Speaker 3: Brian Petrie pretty bullish on Ricky Simone's chances. So when

1628
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 3: my twin brother Jason calls my cell phone. The song

1629
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 3: that plays is you know you're as cold as his ice, right, Peachi,

1630
01:15:58,479 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 3: better get hotter.

1631
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,880
Speaker 6: We're gonna have to have that beat your ringtone as well.

1632
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,400
Speaker 6: My brothers perpetually frozen like Elsa when it comes to

1633
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 6: the sports book. So he's always told as ice can flow,

1634
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 6: comain event, who do you have to man?

1635
01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 5: I got excited. I thought he was gonna go with

1636
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:15,040
Speaker 5: you Dong there at the very end. But yeah, no,

1637
01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 5: I like Ricky Simone here as well. Uh you know

1638
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 5: we here, we are going the same freaking picks here,

1639
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 5: So I'm sorry about that mark. But you know Simone

1640
01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:26,479
Speaker 5: is he's a bad matchup for you Dong. I think

1641
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 5: he takes him down, and I think he wins this fight,

1642
01:16:30,479 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 5: either by decision or by some kind of TKO. So

1643
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,919
Speaker 5: the song is going to have issues with the grappling.

1644
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:39,719
Speaker 5: I think he's still he's gonna be dangerous on the feet.

1645
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:42,720
Speaker 5: I they think, uh, you know, don't sleep on them

1646
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:45,080
Speaker 5: on the feet. If this if Simone decides to stand

1647
01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 5: up with him, but I think Ricky takes him down

1648
01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:48,759
Speaker 5: and wins this one.

1649
01:16:49,479 --> 01:16:52,320
Speaker 6: By the way, this Anakin Florian podcast parlay that has

1650
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:55,920
Speaker 6: been featured on DraftKings sportsbook and a lot of people

1651
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 6: playing that, and we really appreciate it. Even if it's

1652
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:00,760
Speaker 6: a minimum wager, it means a lot. You guys don't

1653
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,000
Speaker 6: consult me at all, Like this would be one thing

1654
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:05,240
Speaker 6: that maybe I could get in get in on, like

1655
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 6: off the record, behind the scenes. You guys don't consult

1656
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:07,880
Speaker 6: me like at all.

1657
01:17:08,080 --> 01:17:13,120
Speaker 5: So we won for three on those parlays.

1658
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:15,719
Speaker 6: So far, Yes, the deal, But these are.

1659
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,960
Speaker 3: These are these are long These aren't like parlays. Yeah,

1660
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean we're giving them over plus four every time,

1661
01:17:22,880 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 3: four to one on your money more.

1662
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, these are long shot parlays. But uh, that's neither

1663
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 6: uh neither he know there. All right, let's get into

1664
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 6: this main event, guys. So I was on Sergey Pavlovich's

1665
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:39,160
Speaker 6: Wikipedia page this morning, and there's a section about ape

1666
01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:44,639
Speaker 6: index Kenny. Basically, it's your height relative to your reach.

1667
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:49,599
Speaker 6: So that Sergey Pavlovitch has like the best ape index

1668
01:17:49,720 --> 01:17:53,240
Speaker 6: of any UFC heavyweight. That he's six three, but his

1669
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:58,680
Speaker 6: reach is eighty four inches, which is John Jones's reach. Yeah,

1670
01:17:59,479 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 6: my twin actually measured our reach. He did it for

1671
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,200
Speaker 6: us because we got the same reach it's to say

1672
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 6: we got the same reach as DC seventy two inches,

1673
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 6: so I think we got a pretty good eight index

1674
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,040
Speaker 6: based upon our height. Here you go, But I thought

1675
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:13,880
Speaker 6: it was kind of interesting that Pavlovich has this much

1676
01:18:14,120 --> 01:18:18,080
Speaker 6: reach on Curtis Blade about four inches, and his hands

1677
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 6: are fast as hell. Betting line is Curtis Blades right

1678
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,920
Speaker 6: now minus one seventy on DraftKings sports Book, Sergey Pavlovich

1679
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,000
Speaker 6: plus one forty five Ken Flow. Blades has won three

1680
01:18:27,040 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 6: in a row, seven out of eight. I think he

1681
01:18:29,360 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 6: might be the best heavyweight of all time to have

1682
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 6: never fought for the belt, right, I mean, when is

1683
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:36,599
Speaker 6: Curtis Blade's going to realize the title fight. Pavlovich also

1684
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:39,360
Speaker 6: closing in fast on a potential title fight of his own, Kenny.

1685
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 6: He's reeled off five straight wins since dropping his debut

1686
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:45,719
Speaker 6: Alice Droveren back in twenty eighteen in China. Huge spot

1687
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:49,040
Speaker 6: for Pavlovich against Curtis Blades. Who wins the heavyweight main

1688
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:49,800
Speaker 6: event can flop.

1689
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 5: You're looking at a seventy four and a half inch reach.

1690
01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 5: I could touch it from here. Let's go all right

1691
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:02,080
Speaker 5: here we got so listen, this is an interesting fight. Man,

1692
01:19:02,120 --> 01:19:04,799
Speaker 5: this is a very tricky one. I think Curtis Blades

1693
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 5: when he's on his game, man, watch out. I think

1694
01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:14,679
Speaker 5: he has been reinvigorated. He's obviously working on his overall skills.

1695
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 5: I think he's dangerous on the feet. He's dangerous on

1696
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 5: the ground if he puts you on your back, good night.

1697
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:27,360
Speaker 5: He's got great grounded pound and and proving skills everywhere

1698
01:19:27,400 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 5: on the feet. So this is tricky. But Pavlovich is

1699
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:37,240
Speaker 5: an absolute animal. He really hasn't been challenged at this point.

1700
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:39,719
Speaker 5: And if I'm looking at it him and going, well,

1701
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 5: you know, striking, I don't think Curtis Blades wants to

1702
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 5: be there. Is there anything in his grappling game? Does

1703
01:19:46,280 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 5: he have a grappling game? Like, Yeah, he's got a

1704
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 5: wrestling background as well, and he's Russian, and you know,

1705
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 5: the Russians are, you know, traditionally the best wrestlers in

1706
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:56,640
Speaker 5: the world. Year after year it's either them or the

1707
01:19:56,680 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 5: Iranians or the Americans, you know, so they have that

1708
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,120
Speaker 5: rich wrestling culture. You know, he's going to be preparing

1709
01:20:02,200 --> 01:20:07,360
Speaker 5: for that. And you know, you talk about his physical attributes,

1710
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 5: that reach, that power, that speed, I don't know, man,

1711
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,120
Speaker 5: this could be a future champ, and I think this

1712
01:20:14,200 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 5: is a great measuring tool to see where he's at.

1713
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:19,559
Speaker 5: Give me the Russian guy.

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01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 6: Wow, WHOA that was well executed, ken Flow. And I

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01:20:24,479 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 6: would also point out that Sergei Pavlovitch was the backup

1716
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,600
Speaker 6: for John Jones and Seedle Gone at UFC two to

1717
01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:35,120
Speaker 6: eighty five in March. Now, oftentimes that doesn't mean everything,

1718
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 6: but it means something. It means something, And I don't

1719
01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 6: know if Curtis Blades even got a phone call to

1720
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 6: be a backup, but Pavlovitch was the guy. Brian, Billy Petrie,

1721
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 6: whatever your name is. Kenthlo thinks that, uh, that Pavlovich

1722
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,240
Speaker 6: is gonna cast this weekend, and we need a prediction

1723
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 6: from you.

1724
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:55,799
Speaker 3: I like Ivan Drago over here at the plus money.

1725
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,799
Speaker 3: That's a great number, but your boy needs to go opposite,

1726
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:02,559
Speaker 3: so I gotta go Blades. I have a thing in

1727
01:21:02,640 --> 01:21:06,479
Speaker 3: my notebook here that says, quit fading Curtis Blades, because

1728
01:21:06,479 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 3: that's all I seem to do, and all he fucking

1729
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: does is win. Right, He's got three losses, two to

1730
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,240
Speaker 3: the same guy once by Derek Lewis. The guy has

1731
01:21:15,280 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: a trouble dealing with power punchers. However, Pawlovitch, even though

1732
01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 3: outside of the UFC he fought a lot asaw though

1733
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:23,679
Speaker 3: guys a lot of good Russian wrestlers and handled him well. Also,

1734
01:21:23,720 --> 01:21:25,880
Speaker 3: Overream got him down with a kind of a Michael

1735
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:28,519
Speaker 3: Bisbee cheeky takedown right, it wasn't the best takedown, kind

1736
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,479
Speaker 3: of got him down and then finished him on the mat.

1737
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 3: If Curtis Blaze can take him down and did what

1738
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 3: he did Dallas Overheim massacre him, butcher him on the ground,

1739
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,000
Speaker 3: that's what I want to see. Blades are starting to

1740
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 3: feel himself. His hands look quick. I know we only

1741
01:21:40,920 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 3: got to see a little bit on the Tommy asked

1742
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 3: him a fight, but he looked super fast and he

1743
01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 3: said it best in Columbus when he fought the aw

1744
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:48,800
Speaker 3: because he said, everyone thinks I'm gonna wrestle, now I'm

1745
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 3: gonna start striking him.

1746
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:50,280
Speaker 6: Mix it up.

1747
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 3: I think Powlewitch hasn't really fallt anybody since over him

1748
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:55,240
Speaker 3: that's willing or wanting to take him down. He gets

1749
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 3: all these first round knockouts. What does he look like

1750
01:21:57,000 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 3: in the second round? What does he look like in

1751
01:21:58,160 --> 01:21:59,840
Speaker 3: the third round? A lot of guys haven't seen that

1752
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 3: ye yet. I think Curtiz Blades is the guy to

1753
01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 3: do that. Gimme Blades. I also think Blades might be

1754
01:22:05,080 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 3: the hardest matchup for John Jones at heavyweight considering the

1755
01:22:08,160 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 3: wrestling pedigree. Who's out wrestled Kurtz Blade. You know John

1756
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 3: Jones a big, strong dude. Maybe they won't take you there,

1757
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 3: but yeah, I want to see Kurz Blade's get a

1758
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,000
Speaker 3: title shot one of these days. The guy's putting work

1759
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:19,800
Speaker 3: and gimme Blades opposite flow, even though I like the

1760
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:20,240
Speaker 3: number on.

1761
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 6: The Russian Yeah, if Curse Blades beat Sergei Pavlovich and

1762
01:22:23,600 --> 01:22:26,639
Speaker 6: Tom aspinall is closing fast. Looks like maybe July will

1763
01:22:26,640 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 6: be his return. But got to think Blades is gonna

1764
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 6: find himself in a championship setting if he can get

1765
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:32,559
Speaker 6: it done this weekend.

1766
01:22:32,680 --> 01:22:32,960
Speaker 4: All right?

1767
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 6: If you want more from Brian Petrie on Twitter at

1768
01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:37,760
Speaker 6: Brian Petrie Mma. Also, the MMA Takes podcast is his

1769
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,280
Speaker 6: individual show, and I just would like to say, in

1770
01:22:40,360 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 6: closing on behalf of this Antik and Florian podcast family,

1771
01:22:43,520 --> 01:22:45,320
Speaker 6: I know it's been a heavy week for the Peatrie

1772
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,599
Speaker 6: clan and specifically I just wanted to acknowledge your mother,

1773
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:51,560
Speaker 6: who has just dealt with a lot, and my condolences

1774
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,559
Speaker 6: to the family. We've been thinking about you and you're

1775
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 6: you're a real soldier for coming on with us today,

1776
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,479
Speaker 6: so we app of course, no.

1777
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,280
Speaker 3: I appreciate every single Anak and Florian listener who now

1778
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,599
Speaker 3: following me. I got a million dms and nice messages,

1779
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 3: and the three of you guys, Cody, Kenny and John

1780
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,559
Speaker 3: all sending me nice messages means a lot. You know this,

1781
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 3: this show is very important to me. You guys are

1782
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,639
Speaker 3: important to me. I know it's so corny to say

1783
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 3: it's like family because I've only really met John, you know, twice,

1784
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 3: but this is this is family to me. I have

1785
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 3: a small family. I keep my inner circle small, so

1786
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 3: it feels really good to have support when stuff like

1787
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 3: this happens, and it means the world to me. Guys,

1788
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:25,880
Speaker 3: I really appreciate.

1789
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,880
Speaker 6: It, my man. You'll always have that support, all right.

1790
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 6: Brian Petree will talk same week with us for the

1791
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 6: main event challenge, and I would also acknowledge our producer,

1792
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 6: Cody Merrow that keeps this Antik and Floran podcast family

1793
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,439
Speaker 6: as tight knit as it is. Communicating with Ray and

1794
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 6: with Petrie and alerting me and Kenny over the weekend

1795
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,400
Speaker 6: to what had happened with Brian's sisters. So I just

1796
01:23:43,439 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 6: wanted to acknowledge Cody in closing as well. All right,

1797
01:23:46,680 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 6: Anti Floran podcast dot com is live. Merchandise can be

1798
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Speaker 6: had there. I don't know where you find those yo

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Speaker 6: fucking later designs, but those are probably out there somewhere.

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Speaker 6: One more sleep designs at millions dot CEO Kenny Floryanmartial

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Speaker 6: Arts dot com if you want to follow everything the

1802
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Speaker 6: Canows got going on. And I just want to say

1803
01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:04,479
Speaker 6: as a little kicker on the way out. According to

1804
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,439
Speaker 6: Henzo and Hoiler Gracie, in Brazilian jiu jitsu, the red

1805
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 6: belt is reserved for those whose influence and fame takes

1806
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,400
Speaker 6: them to the pinnacle of the art. It is awarded

1807
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,639
Speaker 6: in lieu of a ninth and tenth degree black belt.

1808
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:18,560
Speaker 6: If a practitioner receives his or her black belt at nineteen,

1809
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 6: the earliest they could expect to receive a ninth degree

1810
01:24:21,680 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 6: red belt would be at the age of sixty seven.

1811
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 6: So there you go, Ken flup amazing, all right, all right,

1812
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,719
Speaker 6: thank you to our guest Francis Marshall, Ray long O'Brian Petry.

1813
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 6: Our producer is Cody Merrow. We are back next Monday.

1814
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 6: We'll see if Sergey Pavlovich or Curtis Blades remains the

1815
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,679
Speaker 6: heavyweight contender and also gets you ready for another UFC

1816
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,960
Speaker 6: fight night later in the month. Thank y'all for listening

1817
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,800
Speaker 6: for watch and tell your friends let's grow the show

1818
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 6: for Ken Flum, john N. We will talk to you

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01:24:46,439 --> 01:25:28,560
Speaker 6: in less than seven days. Until then, Yo, book lay