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Speaker 2: I'm a man, I'm.

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Speaker 1: For I've heard so many players say, well I want

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Speaker 1: Eda State?

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Speaker 2: Is that? Woo woom? And then and tie the Big

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Speaker 2: All State Conference?

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Speaker 1: Well you you cracked at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: You are so out there with it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, the Big All State Conference or the All State

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Speaker 2: twelve conference. Apparently that's the clubhouse leader, because now we've

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Speaker 2: entered the very weird world of sponsored conferences. Sure, per

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Speaker 2: reports from Yahoo Sports from her friend Brett McMurphy over

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Speaker 2: at Action Network, it sounds as if yeah, your boy, Brett,

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Speaker 2: you or Mark my boy continuing to build on the

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Speaker 2: Taco Bell Cantino Cantina conference. Excuse me? Yeah, now considering

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Speaker 2: changing the name of the conference or cash infusion reportedly

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Speaker 2: between thirty and fifty million dollars. Hello, I'm ty he

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Speaker 2: is Dan, Welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 1: Who are you?

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Speaker 2: My friend?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? Does that increase the likelihood of Dennis Haysbert

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Speaker 1: aka President? I don't think he's the All State spokesperson anymore?

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Speaker 1: Is it the the chaos? Is that what All State is? Now?

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Speaker 1: I'm putting you on the spot.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: No, Yeah, they got the donk, they have the duck.

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Speaker 1: They know that's something else, isn't it AFLAC. That's AFLAC.

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Speaker 1: That's AFLAC.

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Speaker 2: They do the trivia questions. My bad?

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Speaker 1: Right? I think All State is like the Chaos. It's

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Speaker 1: Dean Winters. Okay, where may Mayhem chaos man? Whatever. All

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Speaker 1: I'm saying is Dennis Haysbert is he alive? Let's verify

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Speaker 1: he is a lot Okay, Uh, he has an affiliation,

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Speaker 1: So maybe we get some of that that the Good

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Speaker 1: get creative with this, explain to the people. Let's back

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Speaker 1: up a little bit, so this is who reporting, who

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Speaker 1: else possibly entertaining or pursuing for what reason? And what

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Speaker 2: Well, let's start at the very top. Hit follow, hit subscribe.

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Speaker 2: verbolers dot com. Yes, so to answer your specific question, Yes,

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Speaker 2: we haven't done a news show in a while. This

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Speaker 1: What you're going to talk about, Dennis Haysbert. Sorry, you're

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Speaker 1: going to say Pedro Serrano iconic president, David Palmer iconic

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Speaker 1: And I didn't know where you're going with that. Continue.

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Speaker 2: Where I'm going with this is we're going to focus

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Speaker 2: But this is sort of breaking as of the end

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Speaker 2: Now, neither you nor I are too steeped with knowledge

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Speaker 1: He buys out Lance Leipold and he himself installs himself

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Speaker 1: as the new head coach of Kansas football because the

437
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Speaker 1: price is right.

438
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Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to use the Premier League

439
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Speaker 2: as a go buy, it is not exactly the same.

440
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Speaker 2: But the Premier League of English football has seen a

441
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Speaker 2: huge influx in international money that has come in and

442
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Speaker 2: bought out some programs like Man City. You've seen it

443
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Speaker 2: with Chelsea. I mean there's a whole Newcastle United. There

444
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Speaker 2: have been a whole laundry list of teams. Wrexham, Yeah,

445
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Speaker 2: Wrexham another example, this infusion of cash and how it

446
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Speaker 2: can change things. In many cases it has for the better.

447
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Speaker 2: But we have not really seen that model deployed in

448
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Speaker 2: college football, and it is not exactly the same business model,

449
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Speaker 2: not by a long shot. And so I just worry

450
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Speaker 2: about that growing influence among the financial class. I'm sure

451
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: they're all, well, not all, but many are good people, right.

452
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Speaker 2: I just worry about somebody swooping in with a ton

453
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Speaker 2: of money, buying out coaches, changing the landscape. Operating more

454
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Speaker 2: from the standpoint of how does this affect my pocketbook

455
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Speaker 2: and less from the standpoint is how to like, should

456
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Speaker 2: we be doing this? Is this good for the sport?

457
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Speaker 1: Will you commit today June seventeenth, twenty twenty four to

458
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Speaker 1: going along with me to see Arizona State UCF and Riodd?

459
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Speaker 1: Will you, by the way, if we start doing sponsorship

460
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Speaker 1: reads for Turkish Airline, you know, any one of those

461
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 1: Premier League sponsors, we have been compromised. We have we

462
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Speaker 1: have been compromised.

463
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Speaker 2: And we're done.

464
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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's It's obviously a cartoonish path that we just

465
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Speaker 1: walked down, but not fully. Yeah that I mean, when

466
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Speaker 1: you start inviting that kind of money into the sport,

467
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Speaker 1: you get weird endings. And I don't know, I am

468
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Speaker 1: hopeful that this is us freaking out over nothing, or

469
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Speaker 1: not really freaking out, but sort of going down this

470
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Speaker 1: path over nothing, And I just I think it's more

471
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Speaker 1: of an alarm of where the sport is that this

472
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Speaker 1: these are the solutions that are being looked at than

473
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Speaker 1: anything else, And so I think ultimately it's probably not

474
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Speaker 1: going to be a huge deal, and you know, things

475
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Speaker 1: are being explored, maybe there's some infusion of whatever, but

476
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Speaker 1: I am hopeful, hopeful that it is not a dramatic change.

477
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Speaker 1: So we just lost the PAC twelve well for silly reasons,

478
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Speaker 1: so I don't know, I could see it getting weird.

479
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Speaker 1: I think this all ends with how we all know

480
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: this is going to end with a smaller sport featuring

481
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Speaker 1: halves and some kind of halves and things being splintered.

482
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Speaker 2: Below that, I'm worried about rising influence from the financial

483
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Speaker 2: class and how that could further alter the landscape as

484
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,080
Speaker 2: we know it. I mean, we have had this conversation

485
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Speaker 2: now about a super league for a good two years running.

486
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Speaker 2: We get questions every time we do a mail bag

487
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Speaker 2: about the super League put forty teams together. We got

488
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Speaker 2: one from board member Ryan Out on patron ballers dot

489
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Speaker 2: com that we kind of addressed in part two of

490
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Speaker 2: our mail bag episode last week, and go back and

491
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Speaker 2: listen to that, and I think my answer all on

492
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Speaker 2: the way has been, well, this doesn't benefit the SEC

493
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Speaker 2: or the Big Ten really or really any conference like

494
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Speaker 2: they all. I think I've gotten to the point now

495
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Speaker 2: where at least the Big twelve, Big ten, and SEC.

496
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Speaker 2: The status quo is okay, and they're willing to work

497
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Speaker 2: with that. The ACC it's its own entire fire at

498
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Speaker 2: this point. But yeah, by and large, my answer to that,

499
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Speaker 2: my retort has been I get where you're coming from.

500
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Speaker 2: I understand the nature of the question. I don't think

501
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 2: it really behooves any of the people in charge of

502
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Speaker 2: conferences to want to go in this direction. But if

503
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Speaker 2: you start selling off chunks of a conference, the people

504
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Speaker 2: who own those chunks may feel differently.

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Speaker 1: Sure, so if you.

506
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Speaker 2: Want a super league, this might be the quickest way

507
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Speaker 2: to get there by taking the outside investment from the

508
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Speaker 2: finance guys who want to try and maximize as much

509
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Speaker 2: profit as possible. That's what I fear.

510
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Speaker 1: Do you think we're at a point right now based

511
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 1: on nil portal realignment all of these things, you know,

512
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: potential infusion of cash, sponsorship, all sorts of stuff, you know,

513
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: centralized power in the sport already with two major conferences

514
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 1: and semi major and then G five conference. However you

515
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:07,160
Speaker 1: want to categorize and tear up the sport. I don't

516
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: believe the sport is unrecognizable, but I think in the

517
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:14,400
Speaker 1: way that you're talking, I think we could end up

518
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Speaker 1: using that word like there's still something recognizable about having

519
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:24,119
Speaker 1: multiple conferences and recognizable rivalries. And even with you know,

520
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Speaker 1: the new Big ten teams, SEC teams, ACC teams, Big

521
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: twelve teams, there's there's connection to the past in some

522
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Speaker 1: meaningful ways. That we have Bowl games that feature you know,

523
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Speaker 1: SEC new SEC opponents. We've had those recently. We've had

524
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Speaker 1: you know, we've had these matchups Oregon Ohio State is

525
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: not a foreign matchup. We've had it in national championships,

526
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: non conference whatever. But in the way that you're describing

527
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Speaker 1: a super league, which seems, however, you want to qualify

528
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Speaker 1: that or quantify that that you know, it's fifty two teams,

529
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: it's forty eight teams, it's you know, some some sort

530
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 1: of new organization of the sport that really creates a

531
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Speaker 1: wall between certain parts of the sport that if we

532
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Speaker 1: arrive at a point where it's unrecognizable, that's when I think,

533
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: I think we start to see meaningful collapse in attention,

534
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: even if the sport's still fun, even if you know,

535
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: fans are still super into their teams. More broadly speaking,

536
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: when a sport goes too far into that unrecognizable direction,

537
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: especially one that's as old as college football. That's when

538
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 1: I think you see meaningful dip. That's when I think

539
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: you see the hubris really show its face. And that

540
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: would be the word that I would use to describe it,

541
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Speaker 1: because I still I firmly believe even though West Coast

542
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Guy lost my conference, I still believe college football is recognizable.

543
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: Now you go in twelve team playoff, fourteen team playoff,

544
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Speaker 1: We'll see how we feel in December January, with how

545
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: the rhythms appear in real time, I would still make

546
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Speaker 1: the case that sport is recognizable, albeit very different than

547
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: where it was even a decade ago. But I think

548
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,440
Speaker 1: in what you describe, which is not wrong, I think

549
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: we can get to enter into that territory. And people

550
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: are like, you know what. I think I'm just gonna

551
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: start running more five k's on Saturday. I think I'm

552
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 1: just gonna start learning how to quilt. I think I'm

553
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: gonna start learning I'm gonna increase my vertical leap. I

554
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: think I'm gonna start learning a new language. I think

555
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start taking better care of my lawn. You

556
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: know that I'm not gonna watch I'm gonna watch my team,

557
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: but not the second biggest game of the weekend anymore.

558
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch two windows, but not all three. I'm

559
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: gonna watch one window where my team is playing, but

560
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: not the other two. Like I think that's when you

561
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Speaker 1: get into dramatic changes in fandom appreciation, attention.

562
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: Well, what you're talking about is a slow spiral into

563
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: becoming the.

564
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: NFL or a quick one. Yeah, or a quick.

565
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Speaker 2: One, depending on if and when this all goes down.

566
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: I think the lifeblood of college football outside of recruiting

567
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: is rivalries. It is rivalries. It is playing against your

568
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: hated rival, it is beating them. It is beating them

569
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 2: in the case of Michigan, three times in a row

570
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 2: and driving the other fan base crazy. That is what

571
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: makes this sport tick, I think above all else. And

572
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:22,240
Speaker 2: if we start talking about things like super leagues, if

573
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: we start talking about a scenario in which the top

574
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 2: twenty five teams only play each other, which you know

575
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 2: wouldn't be that far off. If we have the super

576
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: league conversation again, yeah right, I mean that's where they'd

577
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 2: love to take it, I'm sure, because it would mean

578
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: bookou ratings on the TV side of things. Of course

579
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 2: they would want to do that. I think if we

580
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: venture too close to that reality, that is when the collapse,

581
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: as you put it, would start noticeable dips. If we

582
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 2: fly a little too close to that sun in the

583
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: name of money as opposed to the charm that drew

584
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 2: all at some point to the sport. That's the danger

585
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 2: zone in I view.

586
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: And the NFL can't do any wrong right now, Right,

587
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: the NFL is so big that it can't do wrong.

588
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: But we see how they've decided to expand, and so

589
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: they added a seventeenth game, right, So teams make more

590
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: money for another home game. Networks make more money selling commercials. Right,

591
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: it's a more valuable property with more games. Is so

592
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: and so global, so and so partners equity whatever? Going

593
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: to say, twelve games seems pretty cool. What if we

594
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 1: did fourteen fifteen, you know, make some more money. Another

595
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: quick note, It says here, you're playing Furman in week one,

596
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 1: but nobody watches Furman, and your gate receipts are down

597
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 1: when you play against Furman or ut Chattanooga or whatever.

598
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: So let's play Wisconsin. Let's play South Carolina there, and

599
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 1: you start getting closer and closer to unrecognizable. And then

600
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:58,320
Speaker 1: what happens when those teams that need those games, those

601
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,800
Speaker 1: paycheck games to survive as an athletic department don't get

602
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: those games anymore because the new influence is yeah, only

603
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: schedule from this bank of twenty seven teams. It just

604
00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: it trickles down sadness, and that's it's pretty unfortunate.

605
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,959
Speaker 2: If anybody would like to come on this podcast, and

606
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 2: I am speaking directly to you, Drew Weatherford Sure, former

607
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: Florida State quarterback, former Florida State quarterback, Yeah, who seems

608
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: to be championing this style of investment and reportedly has

609
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: given presentations to a number of different places. Somebody like that,

610
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: Somebody from CVC, anybody who might be involved or interested

611
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 2: in this level of investment in college football. If any

612
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 2: of you would like to come on this show.

613
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: Notable college football fan Warren Buffett warn B is interested

614
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 1: in ball footballer, Yeah, long time for baller.

615
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 2: If anybody would like to come on and give your

616
00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: case for why this wouldn't be a bad thing or

617
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 2: why these alarm bells we are sounding are unwarranted, you

618
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 2: have an open invitation Sole at gmail dot com. We

619
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 2: will give you as much time as you want to

620
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 2: explain why it makes sense.

621
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: Also, if you're Dwayne the Rock Johnson, open invite, open

622
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 1: invit always always open invite. But needless to say, interesting

623
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:28,240
Speaker 1: times ahead in the college football world. These conversations don't seem.

624
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 2: Like they're going to go away anytime soon.

625
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: But here's the pivot point. Ty we said artful, we

626
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: said sort of in on the goof, we said sort

627
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: of like understanding that this is different. We'll steer into

628
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: this new reality and not make it weird. We as

629
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Speaker 1: business consultants are offering our services, are we not?

630
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Speaker 2: We are so mindful of the fact that it might

631
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Speaker 2: be the all stay twelve.

632
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

633
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: I still I'm never going to get that right. We're

634
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 2: just going to call it the Big twelve on the

635
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 2: show if you're okay with that. We have put our

636
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 2: heads together and come up with some other sponsorship opportunities

637
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: that we think are out there.

638
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Well, like what we like to do on the show.

639
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 1: Right when we have a sponsor that we truly love

640
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: because they've sent us whatever product, and I say, my

641
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: feet are always so comfortable when I wear this suck

642
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: or when I wear this shirt or when I drink

643
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: out of this you know, water bottle or whatever. Like,

644
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: we're not lying. It makes sense because we enjoy using

645
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 1: their product, then we can speak about it, speak to

646
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: it in a legitimate way, in an earnest way. And

647
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: so we feel like if we are going to offer

648
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: these opportunities, I think they're gonna fit really nicely.

649
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: So with the All State conversation, yeah, well underway and

650
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: definitely in the public sphere. Twitter had an absolute field

651
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 2: day with this, Twitter x whatever, Reddit, all of the

652
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 2: normal hotspots for college football conversation. We're alive with ideas

653
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 2: about this. The best one I saw was the Southwest

654
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 2: Big twelve.

655
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,160
Speaker 1: Oh, so you can call it the Southwest Conference Southwest Conference. Yeah, yeah,

656
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: that would be the best. Yeah, that would be the best,

657
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: hands down. I also did see that the Mac could

658
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: be the Big Mac sponsor by McDonald's. Yeah, those are

659
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 1: my two favorites among some of the other options that

660
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: were thrown about. I mean Apple also with the Mac, right,

661
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: sure makes sense.

662
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, could go Apple. Yeah other suggestions, Dan, have you

663
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 2: given some thought to this?

664
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Speaker 1: I went mostly on the team level. Okay, okay, So

665
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: here's what I have so far. Ty, this is an

666
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 1: ongoing whiteboard document for me. I was thinking about Colorado,

667
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: the identity of Colorado. We're going to start there. I

668
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: have Facebook Marketplace just right there on the fields.

669
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 2: I have Barstool.

670
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,800
Speaker 1: You have Barstool for Colorado, Barstool Sports. Yeah.

671
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: Why Colorado I feel has adopted an edgier strategy to

672
00:36:56,440 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 2: getting its name out there, to not doing things can ventional.

673
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: They are steering into being controversial at times, right, and

674
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 2: it seems as if they have garnered a brand new

675
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 2: fan base for themselves.

676
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 1: I think Dion and Barstool have a history, right, there

677
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: was some sort of deal, yes, I believe so.

678
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: Okay, so that was the first thing that came to mind.

679
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 2: But whatever it is, I think the Colorado brand at

680
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: this point is definitely like separate from the mainstream, a

681
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: little edgy and is okay with being controversial.

682
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just have deals coming in and out. Facebook Marketplace, right,

683
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: got to pick up your your wares. Have you used it?

684
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Have you used Facebook? I have not. I have perused

685
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: to look for stuff, but I haven't able to find

686
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: what I'm looking for.

687
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 2: I've used I've used them many times.

688
00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: For selling or buying or selling selling. Okay, that seems

689
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 1: really easy to use.

690
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 2: Never ceases to amaze me how you can post something and,

691
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 2: provided it's not a total piece of junk, within fifteen

692
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: minus that to.

693
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Speaker 1: Get a reply.

694
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Speaker 2: It's incredible.

695
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: That's great. I looked. I'm gonna stay Big twelve here

696
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: because Big twelve is the sort of middle of all

697
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: of this. I just I look at what Kansas has

698
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: done these past few years, getting lean, getting efficient, becoming

699
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,920
Speaker 1: their best selves. So I have a big old on

700
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:23,240
Speaker 1: their field ozempic logo for Kansas football. A right, Yeah,

701
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: I mean, look, who's the better case for getting lean,

702
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: looking their best, making changes in their life? Are their

703
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 1: side effects? Potentially, yes, potentially there are side effects, but

704
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 1: that's what I have with Kansas. I have that ozempic.

705
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: So speaking about the Big twelve, yeah, I did have

706
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 2: a trivia question for you. Okay, this soft drink company

707
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: is prime to become the second biggest, behind Coke, but

708
00:38:58,760 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: ahead of Pepsi.

709
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: Behind coke, but ahead of Pepsi soft drink company. The

710
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: way you talk about this, it's probably not a soda,

711
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: is it like one of the seltzer called Lacroix spin

712
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: Drift something like that. It's doctor Pepper dan Oh it

713
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: is a soda. It is Doctor Pepper. Okay, Doctor Pettar

714
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: already has a Big twelve affiliation. Yeah, I want to

715
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: know what Doctor Pepper's doing if All State is sort

716
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: of shouldering them out here? Oh yeah, where are they

717
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: going to take their cash?

718
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: Where's the where's that Doctor Pepper cash going to go?

719
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 2: Cause you know, the Fansville thing has been effective. I

720
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,320
Speaker 2: guess we talk about it on the show.

721
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: People people call into the reverbs about the Doctor Pepper

722
00:39:40,120 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Fansville spots.

723
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 2: Sure, but where is that Doctor Pepper cash going to go?

724
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: If not for the Big Twelve?

725
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: What do you say? Do you have an answer? You

726
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,280
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I'm genuinely curious.

727
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: I need to know the strategy because it feels like

728
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 2: Dr Pepper along with All State, along with Chick fil A,

729
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 2: like a few of the biggies that were used to

730
00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: seeing when we watch games on Saturday, right, I would

731
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: expect Doctor Pepper to be in the running there.

732
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: What do you think about with Doctor Pepper the actual

733
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: like beverage? Okay, so they famously was it like twenty

734
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,240
Speaker 1: three different ingredients or something? There's a secret formula. Nobody

735
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,839
Speaker 1: actually knows what Doctor pepper tastes like. That's like the

736
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,959
Speaker 1: ongoing joke that like, people like it, but they can't

737
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: really pinpoint why, so, who does that fit with? Conference

738
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: wise or team wise? They like it, but they don't

739
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: know why they don't. They can't pinpoint the exact flavor.

740
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 2: If we're talking about variety, Yeah, the Variety conference right

741
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 2: now is probably the Big Ten, right yeah, because of

742
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: pulling so many teams in from the West Coast. I

743
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 2: think from also a wink and a nod to maybe

744
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799
Speaker 2: further expansion depending on how things go. I think the

745
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 2: Big Ten more so than any conference. They sort of

746
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 2: broke down the whole geographic barriers that we had come

747
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 2: to accept with respect to how leagues were construct did so.

748
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 2: I guess maybe I had the Big ten. I had

749
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:10,720
Speaker 2: the Big Ten slotted for a company like YETI okay,

750
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: Like the Big Yetti would be a fun name for

751
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 2: a conference.

752
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: Big Yetti's pretty good. I like that it's coast to coast.

753
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: Everybody could use a cooler or a tumbler or something

754
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: like that. Not a sponsor could be.

755
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 2: Right, So whether you're needing to keep the drinks hot

756
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 2: or cold, yet he's got you covered. And that applies

757
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,320
Speaker 2: pretty much across the entirety of the conference.

758
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Right, Okay, see, I would go I would think about

759
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,760
Speaker 1: like Rich and Chubby, right, Rich and a little Portly.

760
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: That's I don't know what brand, like the Pringles, the

761
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: Pringles ten what what what spokesperson like? Cartoon spokesperson fits

762
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 1: like Rich and Portly, it's the monopoly Man Chubby.

763
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: I was thinking of the monopoly Man.

764
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know my ans, Uncle Eggs, kool Aid,

765
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: Rich and port I don't know rubenesque. I don't know

766
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: what the best way to describe.

767
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: I had eighty four lumber for the Big Ten as well.

768
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: I like that.

769
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: Not a sponsor could be sponsor.

770
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that is.

771
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: For AAC the American Conference.

772
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, weather Tech Okay, continue, Two things that we know

773
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: about weather Tech.

774
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: If you've ever seen a commercial I have made in

775
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: the United States, made in America, very big on that. Yes,

776
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: they make a good product. I've had it made in America. Also, unfortunately,

777
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 2: given the state of college football, a bit of a format.

778
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:44,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure it fits American conference. Weather Tech made in

779
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: the USA also bit of a format. Losing their teams

780
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: the American so protection from leakage. Yep, that's not bad.

781
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: I like that. What do you have for the Pac two?

782
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing, They'll take whatever money they can get.

783
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: That's true. Then the what's it called the the Life

784
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: Alert right? The Life Alert bracelet pack two? Oh my god?

785
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:08,560
Speaker 2: What other teams do you got?

786
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: All right, here's what I have so far. I have

787
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: ole Miss Swiping Away its life away on bumble right,

788
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: not a reference to Lane Kiffin's personal life. What could

789
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 1: be ole Miss always Swiping? Can we get a better

790
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: left guard? Yeah? Can we get a better outside linebacker?

791
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: Can we get a better number one receiver? Always swiping?

792
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: Bumble presents ole Miss football?

793
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 2: Isn't bumble buy women for women?

794
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I've never used it, I believe

795
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: is that what the one it is? Where like a

796
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: guy can't I think message unless a woman responds messages

797
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: him first. I have no idea how it works with

798
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: different kinds.

799
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: Of real match act? Is what you're going for?

800
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: Yes? Absolutely, Clemson's a bit of a hoarder, right, and

801
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: they don't want to let people in. They're they're hoarding

802
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: inside the house. So I have Clemson was simply safe sponsor.

803
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: They got former hell everth they got to protect their

804
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: way of life. And what better way is all sorts

805
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: of door alarms and cameras and stuff simply safe for Clemson.

806
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: I have dude wipes for Iowa.

807
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: Oh, I have an Iowa one. Continue.

808
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 2: I just feel like that very much is the brand.

809
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: It's not like sexy, it's just very utilitarian, and it

810
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: plays into this notion that Iowa's got, you know, big

811
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 2: honking offensive lineman and defensive lineman every year, and that's how.

812
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 1: They share games. Here's what I have for Iowa. I'm

813
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,520
Speaker 1: taking the opposite viewpoint for Iowa football. What I'm seeing

814
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:51,240
Speaker 1: is hope. I'm seeing what Iowa needs, what Iowa's looking for.

815
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: I'm seeing the hiring of Tim Lester and changing sort

816
00:44:56,280 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: of limper ways on offense. So I have Iowa football

817
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: presented by cialis searching for explosion and fast finishes. Tie

818
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,680
Speaker 1: right there on the field. The sealis not a sponsor,

819
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: could be not a sponsor, could be you want to

820
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 1: go blue choo. I've done a blue Choo read I

821
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: thought I did pretty well. That was on Sports Wars.

822
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's what I'm going for for Iowa football,

823
00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 1: the need for more explosion.

824
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 2: I have shady rays for the sun belt. Okay, that's

825
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: a very literally that's like not that funny, right, but

826
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: that actually makes.

827
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,800
Speaker 1: Sense about sunny D?

828
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 2: Is sunny D still a thing?

829
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: I think? So? Is it not sunny Delight the sunny

830
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: D Belt? Yeah, it's it's just called sunny D. It's

831
00:45:43,640 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 1: not called sunny Delight, I think. Anymore?

832
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: Who should sponsor the SEC?

833
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: Okay? So how would you come to define the SEC brand?

834
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: Right now?

835
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: The three things that I jotted down were waffle House,

836
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,719
Speaker 2: m H, super Cuts?

837
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: Why super cuts?

838
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 2: I was thinking more Bama bangs okay? And Southern Comfort

839
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: obviously because.

840
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: Of the Southern Comfort makes a lot of sense. Now.

841
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to venture into alcohol

842
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 2: as part of these sponsorships. They may be a little

843
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 2: bit leery about that, right, although a lot of places

844
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 2: now sell alcohol, so that relationship is cooled.

845
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: You see, owned by Disney, now.

846
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: Owned by Disney. Right, So I did I did kind

847
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: of give some thought to could the conference be sponsored

848
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 2: by a movie? Which I think is the funniest possible

849
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 2: outcome among all of this, Like, yeah, if the SEC

850
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: is sponsored by Toy Story five, yeah, mad Max Furiosa

851
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 2: or a Nick Cage Flick or something of that nature.

852
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: That's the best possible outcome for all of this. Yeah,

853
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 2: but I didn't settle on a particular sponsor for the SEC.

854
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,440
Speaker 2: I just had those three companies or three things in mind.

855
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 1: I have Ohio State, and with what they've done lately,

856
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: just losing important moments, right, losing the Bishing game, lost,

857
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,279
Speaker 1: you know, some Bowl game like there's just they're having

858
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: a really tough time with losing those important things. So

859
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: I have Apple air Tags. We'll help you keep track.

860
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: Apple air Tags, Ohio State, Premium brand, Premium brand. We're

861
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 1: all good there. I have Illinois and Vienna Beef. I

862
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: just want Brett Bilama on you know, the fifty yard

863
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: line with a hot dog gun shooting them into the crowd.

864
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,400
Speaker 1: I think you get that beefy brand with h in

865
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 1: Vienna Beef is the I think it's the choice hot

866
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:35,520
Speaker 1: dog of at least you know it's upstate. It's Chicago dogs, right,

867
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Speaker 1: But I think that fits really nicely.

868
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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the clip where the hot dog

869
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Speaker 2: gun malfunctions and backfires right into the.

870
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Speaker 1: Hot dog gets shot into the shooter. Yes, Oh no,

871
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Speaker 1: no I haven't.

872
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Speaker 2: I'll send you this. It's marvelous. One of the best

873
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:52,440
Speaker 2: clips on the internet.

874
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Speaker 1: I would love to shoot guns.

875
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: We love a good hot dog gun.

876
00:47:55,040 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have Miami with chat GPT. What's better then

877
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 1: AI to make decisions on the fly right where you

878
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: just ask you know, a machine learning bot. Okay, there's

879
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 1: this much time left, we're playing this opponent. It's this

880
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,640
Speaker 1: down with this yardage. What do most good teams do?

881
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: Hurry up and tell me chat GPT Miami Football.

882
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: I am going to ask chat GPT. Yeah, if it

883
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 2: can tell me what it would do in the scenario,

884
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 2: would it also, Neil, would it decide not to kneel run?

885
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, just on the fly right, it's gonna

886
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,399
Speaker 1: respond quickly. Yeah. If you're whoever coach, we.

887
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 2: Need to find the exact scenario of this game, though,

888
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 2: right and pump it into chat chept, which I can

889
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 2: do I won't. If you can vamp a little bit,

890
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: we can see what it would do if given the opportunity,

891
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:59,000
Speaker 2: and if it offers any kind of wisdom to the

892
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: Like Samaria Crystobal.

893
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 1: I've never used AI or chat GPT, so I will.

894
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: I will trust you on that front. I've got a

895
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: good one for USC tie, okay, if you'll indulge me. Yeah,

896
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: all right, So I chose. Let's say I wrote down

897
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: the exact products Scott's Easy Seed Patch and Repair for

898
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: the school that has its real turf, real grass turf

899
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: trampled and abused by opposing teams all season long. Scott's Easy.

900
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: That's the letters, Easy Seed Patch and Repair. You got

901
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: the the end zone, your own end zone being abused,

902
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: and I just I feel like lean into it. So

903
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: I have Scott's Easy Turf Build and Repair for USC.

904
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: Florida State Go fund me just right right on the

905
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Speaker 1: field there as they try to exit the acc. If

906
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: you want to talk about you know, there's no south

907
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: You can't fly southwest to you know, the want to

908
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: get away thing to Tallahassee. You can go to Panama

909
00:49:57,520 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: City or Jacksonville. So I didn't do that Rocket Mo

910
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: mortgage looking for a new home right. Florida State World Trips,

911
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: travel insurance for when you think you're making a trip

912
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: and it doesn't work out. Florida State twenty twenty three.

913
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: I think all of those things make sense for the

914
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 1: good people at Florida State.

915
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: Yes, Miami should have knelt instead of running the ball

916
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 2: with the game nearly one, taking a knee would have

917
00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: allowed them to run out the clock and secure the victory. Instead,

918
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: they chose to run the ball, resulting in a fumble

919
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: that allowed Georgia Tech to execute a last second miracle

920
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: play and win the game.

921
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: But can you put in like a very specific situation

922
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 1: like could you make up a situation like what would

923
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: a good college football coach do if their team found

924
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:42,720
Speaker 1: themselves with the ball with two and a half minutes

925
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: left up by four? You know, like, will chat GPT

926
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: or whatever your AI bot of choice is, will they

927
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:53,360
Speaker 1: evaluate correct thinking?

928
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 2: I am doing it now. What would a good college

929
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,520
Speaker 2: football coach do if their team found themselves with the

930
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: ball two and a half half minutes left up four

931
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 2: points on fourth down and three yard line from their

932
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 2: own forty eight yard line?

933
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, any other details needed in a dome?

934
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 2: Go for it or punt?

935
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

936
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: Or something else? I think that is very valuable in

937
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: this scenario, good college football coach would typically consider these options.

938
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: Okay lists them off right field position, opponents, offense, clock management,

939
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 2: game situation. I have to read on that based on

940
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 2: these factors, you could either go for it, punt, or

941
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:33,720
Speaker 2: other considerations.

942
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: It's listing all the other considerations going forward to punting.

943
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: Okay, In some situations, a coach might consider a quick

944
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 2: kick or a surprise kick, so they're saying maybe on

945
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 2: third down God instead, Yeah, chat ept says, therefore my

946
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: decision be to punt and rely on our defense to

947
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: close out the game. Effect wow, Okay, while going forward

948
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:56,440
Speaker 2: and fourth While going forward and fourth down could extend

949
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: our drive and potentially seal the game with another first down,

950
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 2: the risk of turning the ball over on downs and

951
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 2: giving the opponent a short field outweighs a potential reward,

952
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 2: especially with only a four point lead.

953
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: Man, if we could simulate Mario Cristobal against a BOT

954
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: over the course of his Miami career, that would be fun.

955
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: That would be something fun.

956
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,680
Speaker 2: We'll have to get our IT team on Allen's Who

957
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: we can do.

958
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I have Texas A and M with fidelity because sometimes

959
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 1: you just need the pros to manage your money and

960
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: not pay and extend coaches in perpetuity. Sometimes you need

961
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: somebody to be like, you know, actually tea bills right

962
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: make more sense than Jimbo Fisher.

963
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of which, A and M very interested in the

964
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Speaker 2: private equity Continue.

965
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,319
Speaker 1: I think A and M's okay with their Yeah, I

966
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: can flow behind the scenes.

967
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,040
Speaker 2: What's the price of oil? They're good?

968
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's those are all I mean. The

969
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: shat GPT one I was especially happy about. Continue.

970
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 2: The Mountain West is like rugged, The Mountain West is

971
00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,759
Speaker 2: Patagonia north Face ARII something.

972
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: Of that that's pretty good.

973
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,760
Speaker 2: Of that nature I think would fit perfectly.

974
00:53:04,120 --> 00:53:08,240
Speaker 1: I think that offer that was an offering of really smart,

975
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,040
Speaker 1: well thought out.

976
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 2: Oh of course, let us know what you guys think.

977
00:53:12,280 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 2: Soliverblet jas dot com hit us up on social media,

978
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 2: not just with these sponsorship pairings, but also with our

979
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 2: conversation for the vast majority of this episode, which was

980
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: the infusion of money in different ways into college football?

981
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 2: How will it? How won't it change the sport as

982
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 2: we know and love it? At what point does it

983
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: become unrecognizable to you? We'd love to get your feedback

984
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,840
Speaker 2: on this again, soliverable at gmail dot com. You can

985
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 2: always hit us up across social media as well. I

986
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 2: think it's a conversation that is going to persist. I

987
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 2: feel like the first time that this was out there

988
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: that people were talking about it, there was an assumption

989
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,160
Speaker 2: by some that it might just go away, that this

990
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,400
Speaker 2: is kind of a crazy idea. It's apparently not crazy

991
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 2: enough to just go away. I think this is going

992
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: to be with us now for a while, and I

993
00:54:04,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 2: don't think it's long before we start seeing some of

994
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 2: these more creative ways to infuse teams, to infuse schools,

995
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 2: to infuse leagues with cash. And I don't think it's

996
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: all that far away. So just get used to it,

997
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 2: form your opinions, and let.

998
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Us see where your thoughts are. Do you think Kirk

999
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: Farens has a price to appear in that bathtub style

1000
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: Sialis commercial if it were then required in his contracts

1001
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,680
Speaker 1: with Cialis underwriting? I think he could quick chunk of

1002
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: the Iowa football program, just like him and Phil Parker

1003
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 1: and their individual bathtubs. Like, do you think he would

1004
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:45,720
Speaker 1: not accept two million dollars to appear in a Cialis

1005
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:46,840
Speaker 1: commercial in a bathtub?

1006
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: First off, what's your number to appear in that commercial?

1007
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Oh?

1008
00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: My god, one.

1009
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: Hundred k, nothing, fifty k in catering. It would be amazing.

1010
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 2: What is the number for Kirk ference? I don't think

1011
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 2: you'd do it.

1012
00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: Do you think he would just quit? Yeah? At this

1013
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: point in his career.

1014
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:11,160
Speaker 2: If the sponsor came in and said, we're going to

1015
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 2: infuse Iowa football with one hundred million dollars wear bathing suit,

1016
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: a hundred million dollars in cash. But the caveat is, Kirk,

1017
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,879
Speaker 2: you've got to You've got to do this right.

1018
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: If Iowa was in it, if we're they were in

1019
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: a different conference and need desperately.

1020
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 2: Needed the money, would he would he do that?

1021
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: Zero chance? But my question to you is which coach

1022
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,919
Speaker 1: would accept the least amount of money because they're just like, sure,

1023
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,239
Speaker 1: screw it whatever. I think it's Lane Kiffin, Lane, Yeah,

1024
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: of course, right, it would be a good goof. It'd

1025
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: be fun for recruiting. Yeah. The coach who would be

1026
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: most likely to be okay appearing in a college football

1027
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: themed sialis bathtub commercial. So what we're talking about is

1028
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:55,800
Speaker 1: there was a commercial a while back where it would

1029
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: just be a couple in their own bathtubs next to

1030
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: each other. At this point, you think, what, I.

1031
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: Think we all know the commercial?

1032
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I hope. So, I don't know. I don't know. People

1033
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: have like memorized every single mail enhancement commercial that has

1034
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 1: been out there. I know you have obviously, Yeah, I think,

1035
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: I think, Kirk Farence, there's no price, there's absolutely no price.

1036
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,959
Speaker 1: But if you're talking about the future of iowall football depends.

1037
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: On it, need you to take one for the team, Kirk.

1038
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just stick to the script, do your thing, go

1039
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 1: out of conquering hero So yeah.

1040
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 2: At gmail dot com, our website, soliverbal dot com, hit follow,

1041
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1042
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,319
Speaker 2: like it, There's much more to come where this came from,

1043
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 2: we promise you. As we make the turn into the

1044
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 2: latter half of June, the early part of July, that

1045
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:52,160
Speaker 2: is preview territory, the season is getting awfully big in

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1050
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Speaker 2: much much more to come, Dan Rubinstein, I'm glad we

1051
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,960
Speaker 2: got to unpack this issue, these issues together on this episode.

1052
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 2: Of course, we will be back a few days time

1053
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: from now talk more college football. Stay tuned for that

1054
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 2: for that guy over there, Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Ty Hildenbrandt,

1055
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:24,040
Speaker 2: enjoy your day.

1056
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Speaker 1: They saw peace,