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Speaker 1: Welcome back to this episode of Devo and Joe. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host James de Bo Harrison, and I'm here with

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Speaker 2: Doing great, brother Debo.

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Speaker 3: Another grade day, Another great day to be on the pod,

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Speaker 3: talking sports, talking ball with my man. Long story short,

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Speaker 3: let me get let me tell you something. Can I

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Speaker 3: tell you something? Okay, let's go tell me something. I

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Speaker 1: Do you know anything about the flag because you know

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Speaker 3: So, look, my boy's been playing out this their third

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Speaker 3: I've been watching. They do seven on seven. They're still young,

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Speaker 3: My boy out there, Joey. The team name listen. My

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Speaker 1: They ain't gonna never play each other, No, no, no.

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Speaker 3: They they different age groups. I got a first grader

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Speaker 1: Who uh, who's going to want to go, you know,

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Speaker 3: No matter what I do, you manipulated into that.

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Speaker 2: He just you know, it's no hope.

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Speaker 3: They gonna do what they want to do. They're gonna

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Speaker 2: I ain't gonna give you your son. Yeah, they gonna

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Speaker 3: I'm here to just feed it so and so and

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Speaker 1: And you see what it transitions me into. I went

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Speaker 1: Okay, that would make it a three star Joe's Joe Burrow.

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Speaker 1: No question, baby. They said we need a receiver. We

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Speaker 3: And then you're talking about your d tackles too?

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Speaker 2: He can't forget about the big man. It's gonna let

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Speaker 2: You gotta get them there before you can go ahead

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Speaker 2: and see how it's go transpire. We got what we had, well,

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Speaker 1: We got what we have and this is what we

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Speaker 2: Okay, number one, yes, being over thet espn.

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Speaker 1: But you know who they got at?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 2: What is that? Twenty two? Cleveland Clowns, Sorry, Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1: I get that mixed up sometimes all that and they

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Speaker 2: And Joe, you know what is so crazy about that?

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Speaker 2: What is that?

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Speaker 1: It's kind of a clip, an old clip that's after

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Speaker 2: Can we play the clip?

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Speaker 5: May Dak Prescott is lead nineteen night. Now I need

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Speaker 5: you to take twenty picks and give them to Cleveland

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Speaker 5: so you can pick me up. I love to play

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Speaker 1: Hey, hey, that that was That was a message over

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Speaker 2: And I know it was a little while and young.

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Speaker 1: Still it's still relevant. You know, it was only twenty seventeen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's you know, and uh, Joe, I know the market,

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Speaker 2: Okay, and they was willing to give just one first.

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Speaker 1: But but I believe I believe they may be willing

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Speaker 2: For this me personally, just looking at the situation.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Cleveland, what kind of money

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Speaker 1: What kind of money you think you make off the

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Speaker 1: field in Cleveland, Joe, Ain't it ain't really that kind

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Speaker 1: that man could probably make another forty a year.

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Speaker 2: Off the lord. Yeah, make goal Joe.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Joe, what do you think of the moves the

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Speaker 2: And with your.

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Speaker 1: Your gm over there, mister Barry with the pail and chicken.

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Speaker 2: What do you think of this move? Joe?

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Speaker 3: I think this is a smart move. It's a smart move.

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Speaker 3: It's a business move. It's letting the Browns end of

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Speaker 3: the day, let it giving us more time to see

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Speaker 3: after the draft, if Miles is going to still be there,

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Speaker 3: Miles already said that he wants to go. He's still

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Speaker 3: he will be there for sure if he's going to

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Speaker 3: play for the bread Miles is a Miles a higher

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Speaker 3: gun right now. Love Miles to death. He's going to

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Speaker 3: for sure. He loves the city and all that. But

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Speaker 2: So that's already said. He said he wanted to.

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Speaker 3: Go, and then when you get paid, you're gonna have

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Speaker 3: have a baller, a generational talent, a Hall.

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Speaker 3: If you can get crazy amounts of assets for him,

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Speaker 3: you always keep that window open. No, no, if I'm

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Speaker 3: get a crazy haul for him because end of the day,

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Speaker 3: won four games, so there is more holes to field

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Speaker 3: to that, then that makes it a more and more

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Speaker 3: more reason for us to do something because with Miles

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Speaker 3: him his bread it is what it is. We can

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Speaker 3: we need more so we can get three first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Happen to get another defensive end, these rookies somebody we

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Speaker 2: We need more assets.

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Speaker 3: So as much as they can get from Miles, try

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Speaker 3: to see the keep the doors open. But if you're

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Speaker 3: moving to sign up on his back just gives them

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Speaker 3: more time It's like, once you give him that bonus,

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Speaker 3: then you know you're not trading, you're not moving them

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Speaker 3: because you already paid them that bread. When once you

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Speaker 3: if you pass it back until right before the season starts,

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Speaker 3: then that gives you all that time during training camp,

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Speaker 3: all that time before the season to if you need

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Speaker 3: Our team looks good during training camp. All we need

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Speaker 3: is Miles Garrett. We'll give him the three first round picks.

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Speaker 3: Then if you're just Browns, you always keep that window

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Speaker 3: contending team. So you always gonna if you if you're

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Speaker 3: Andrew Barry, keeping that window open to be able to

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Speaker 3: get as much capital as you possibly can because he

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Speaker 3: with being.

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Speaker 2: M v P. So you think somebody would give up

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Speaker 2: three first rounders. If they don't, then we keep him.

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Speaker 2: So this was just the move.

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Speaker 3: Just this just the move, just just believe, just to

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Speaker 3: looks we start going one in five.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 3: I think I think you'd be smart to take two,

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Speaker 3: b be smart to take two. I hear, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: But if i'm them, I'm trying to I'm.

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Speaker 2: Murder. But man, I'm not giving you three. All right,

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Speaker 2: Well that's what he's gonna chill, Okay, we'll see. We'll

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Speaker 2: see what to first in the second to first?

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Speaker 3: Two first in the second something something outrageou because mad Max?

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Speaker 2: First and the third about to first and the third

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Speaker 2: to Joe d m jo right now, two, first and

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Speaker 2: the third? What team are you? Where are you picking?

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Speaker 2: I'm trying third, Ben? Okay? Two, first and third, y'alls

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Speaker 2: the third? Two, first, and third. I'm listening to you.

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Speaker 2: How you how you? How you not? And you just

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Speaker 2: saved yourself.

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Speaker 1: The man had twenty three sacks and y'all still couldn't

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Speaker 2: You're right, you need helping a whole lot more positions

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Speaker 2: than that. I'm taking it that, I'm taking it. I'm

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Speaker 3: Listen anything more than two first listen.

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Speaker 1: I love this move. I love this move for Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: you know. And hey, Barry, I'm one hundred percent with you.

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Speaker 1: This is the best move.

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Speaker 2: You can make I love it. I love it a lot.

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Speaker 1: Please, and even if listen to me, but even if

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Speaker 1: they don't give you no more than two, it's still

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Speaker 1: worth it.

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Speaker 2: It's still worth it. Listen to me. We need, we need,

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Speaker 2: we need to get some more bodies in there.

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Speaker 1: You know it's you just you just need you just

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Speaker 2: Peop it out? It's either Cleveland or Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Right now, they saying, they're saying, right now, they saying

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Speaker 1: it is Dallas. Fifty eight percent saying Dallas. Hey, that's

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Speaker 1: the chat the poll right there. Hey, y'all, let me

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Speaker 1: know where y'all think you're playing. Hey, that that off

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Speaker 1: the field money, and hey, it's just going.

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Speaker 3: To be what do you think Dallas? Do you what

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Speaker 3: do you think Dallas gonna will offer Cleveland to get

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Speaker 3: Miles two?

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Speaker 1: Two first? It's two first, okay, two first, and if

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Speaker 3: Two first in the third, two first in the third.

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Speaker 3: You know what, Sign signed, Sign me up, Sign me

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Speaker 3: all the way up, Sign me all the way up.

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Speaker 2: I was trying.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying to over I'm trying to forget because I'm

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if we're gonna get rid of myus, I

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Speaker 3: don't want to. I love Mouse, he's been the best player.

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Speaker 3: But when you're trying to go really build, we need

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Speaker 1: Got a new coach in want in mind, I got

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Speaker 1: a new coaching there. Man, he don't forget. He ain't

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Speaker 1: been in contact with the with the new decordinator yet.

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Speaker 1: Now is that is that gonna be a problem. No,

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Speaker 1: that's not a problem, Myles.

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Speaker 2: Isn't all. I'm just you asking. I'm telling you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know all the defensive people that we got,

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Speaker 1: you know, like like like TJ and and Cam and

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Speaker 1: that we got.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying. I'm just saying, Joe, the first thing

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Speaker 2: I got to do, I got talked to. I got

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00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 2: I got talked to. My guys just gonna be leading

438
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: the charge for me. I want you to.

439
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,480
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. Let you know my plan,

440
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 1: where we're going, where we're headed, how we go do it.

441
00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,680
Speaker 1: I need to buy in, baby, I need to buy you.

442
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,239
Speaker 1: I need you to get them to buy in.

443
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna get to buy in on when O t

444
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 2: a start.

445
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,199
Speaker 3: When I show up on there with my notepad locked in,

446
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 3: then then you'll know.

447
00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 1: If they don't get there and you don't like what

448
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 1: you're seeing, what you mean, you're not like what you're seeing?

449
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: You go buy in anyway? How you gonna what you mean?

450
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: Were here? Yes, you had nothing not coming here, and

451
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 2: you got me playing the two technique. That's all.

452
00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: Look if that's what the defense calls for, If that's

453
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 3: what defense calls for, who you're gonna come this the coach,

454
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:34,320
Speaker 3: just the defensive coordinator.

455
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,159
Speaker 2: Now you now you the coach, de bo.

456
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: That's the type of I don't want to coach you.

457
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 2: You on my team, on my team, I don't want

458
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:45,320
Speaker 2: you on my team. Play you?

459
00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 3: You the outside backer, So play outside backer?

460
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: All right? Bet?

461
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,440
Speaker 3: When I'm when the coach come in and tell me, Joe,

462
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 3: you corner you right now?

463
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,400
Speaker 2: You gotta play cover two. What I'm saying now, I'm

464
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 2: a better man. Corner. Shut up, Joe, play cover too,

465
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 2: all right? Bet?

466
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,040
Speaker 3: All right, I'm hold down this cover two, all right,

467
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:00,880
Speaker 3: That's what I'm gonna do. So I'm gonna go play

468
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,120
Speaker 3: the defense exactly the way you call it, and then

469
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 3: it don't work. Now I'm looking at you crazy like this. Well,

470
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,200
Speaker 3: I did your cover too, and you know what I'm saying,

471
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 3: give me a shot. I'm about all the way in

472
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 3: from the beginning.

473
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: Put him at the two, put him in two or

474
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: the three technique, and tell him just play the defense out.

475
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: I told you to play the ball. He just had

476
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: twenty three. Huh No, no you roll with that. No, no, no,

477
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: see no, see he's not gonna put.

478
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: My Look we talked about mouths. We're talking about mouths.

479
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: If we's on my mouse, he's not gonna put him.

480
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Speaker 2: At the two. That's not saying he got nobody to

481
00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 2: stop nothing. Man.

482
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 3: Man, that's that's that's on.

483
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,440
Speaker 2: That's on y'all. That's on y'all.

484
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 3: But if that's gonna make the team win, Miles might

485
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,080
Speaker 3: have to go in there and hold it down.

486
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

487
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: We talked about our man, do you guys Sometimes you

488
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 3: might got to do ugly things. I don't know, get

489
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,840
Speaker 3: dirty a little bit. If it works, you gotta come

490
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,239
Speaker 3: in with somebody in. But like the same time, your

491
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 3: defensive coordin is not gonna be dumb enough. I would

492
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,199
Speaker 3: hope to put Miles at the two when you have

493
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,320
Speaker 3: him that just had twenty three sacks, maybe for a look.

494
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, de Bo, You just out

495
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: here just like man.

496
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: You know me, I like to I like to come

497
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: up with things that make difficult decisions.

498
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 3: You're coming up with Sometimes you just say stuff that

499
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 3: don't make sense just to try to make me mad and.

500
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: Be like, yeah, but what if they do that? Hey,

501
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,600
Speaker 2: I'm just listen.

502
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:26,199
Speaker 1: I can't I can't help what your reaction is to

503
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:27,080
Speaker 1: a hypothetical.

504
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 3: Right, So what if you came in and dick Lebow

505
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 3: just was like, all right, bet debo, dick Lebo puts

506
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: you out at corner, and if.

507
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: He told you go out there, if you told me

508
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,719
Speaker 1: this time you got to go out both told me

509
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: to play corner and he said I could play it,

510
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: you damn right.

511
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: I would Okay, okay, okay.

512
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: Damn right, Because dick lar Boy ain't never ain't no,

513
00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: he would never set you up coordinated.

514
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 2: He wasn't disgusting.

515
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: That is that is a like, that is the highest disrespective.

516
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: Forum I ever heard in my life life.

517
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:05,880
Speaker 1: What comparing your decordinator to to Dick Lebou and what

518
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 1: dick Lebou would do.

519
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Are you out of your mind? Well not well, not every.

520
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: Sense that you had left, all seven senses of six

521
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,880
Speaker 1: whatever it is.

522
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: I'm done with this ship.

523
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:23,359
Speaker 3: Respect zero disrespected, Dick Larbove zero disrespect zero zero zero

524
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 3: de bo that's me. You know what, My bad, My bad.

525
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 3: I did not mean that, but you know what I'm

526
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 3: talking about. You Donna put yourself on you.

527
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 2: Joe.

528
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 1: Look here, man, yes, your boy, your boy mal kiper

529
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: over here. He said something that I find totally about

530
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 1: your door.

531
00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: Sanders.

532
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 1: He said, Sanders, it's over tyd Simpson. The Browns don't

533
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 1: need quarterback, he said. The Browns don't have to worry

534
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: about Tdy Simpson. There there there, They've got a better

535
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,360
Speaker 1: quarterback in Shador Sanders than Tye. He exceeded expectations by

536
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: Miles considering what he is, what he had to do

537
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: to overcome. Obviously better than Dylan. I think he's the

538
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: Browns quarterback for the future.

539
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: Joe, what do you think that, Joe?

540
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 3: That's I'm not here to give a Shador love speech.

541
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 3: But since he was coming out, nothing changed when it

542
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 3: was versus him and Ward coming out of the draft,

543
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 3: in my opinion, so he had him draft breaked high

544
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:28,840
Speaker 3: in his draft board.

545
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: He was gonna be one or two for Mail Kuiper.

546
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 2: He was up there for me too.

547
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 3: So when people then all of a sudden back down,

548
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,160
Speaker 3: he goes as a fifth round draft pick.

549
00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: In my view, he never changed. Nothing changed my view

550
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: of Shador.

551
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 3: So giving him the opportunity to have a line, have

552
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: a year in the system, have a year we had

553
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 3: actual real wide receivers they can hand it off to

554
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 3: with the running game, you know what I'm saying, like

555
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,360
Speaker 3: a true chance to be a starting quarterback. And that's

556
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 3: where Mel Kuiper and I think that we're speaking on

557
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,200
Speaker 3: the same level. People are looking at your door since

558
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 3: he went and in the fifth round like a fifth

559
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: round quarterback.

560
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 2: I am not.

561
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 3: I'm still looking at Shador like the quarterback I thought

562
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 3: could have went one or two him or Ward in

563
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 3: the draft. So Ward had a good year, but it

564
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 3: wasn't nothing electric. You wouldn't think like Ward had to

565
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,959
Speaker 3: be in a quarterback competition, but he's the starting quarterback

566
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: for the Tennessee Titans.

567
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 2: Moving forward, wasn't the best same Shador was the.

568
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,360
Speaker 3: Starting quarterback, had that title for the Cleveland Browns.

569
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 2: That was his rookie season.

570
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 3: Now the next year, he has another year boom under

571
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 3: his belt. Offseason, go through the whole thing, being able

572
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 3: to get additions, being able to get other receivers, being

573
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 3: able to work with them, work with the ones during OTAs.

574
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,640
Speaker 3: During training camp he was working with the practice squat.

575
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 3: He didn't get any reps. So the season happened. Rookie year,

576
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 3: It's a lot going on you're a quarterback, just things moving,

577
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 3: changing pace. So now I think him having his full

578
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 3: off season. I thought he would have been a first

579
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 3: round pick last year and now it was his second

580
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: year coming in like camp Ward, I'm kind of looking

581
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 3: at Chador's progress like I'm looking at Cams. Wasn't the best,

582
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 3: but still has things he can work on, he can

583
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,239
Speaker 3: do better. But now his second year, believe in him.

584
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 3: Let's go, let's see what he can do. So with me,

585
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:06,919
Speaker 3: I wouldn't take tie. I don't think he's better than

586
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 3: shr Door in my opinion. Other people may think he is,

587
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: so let that to each his own. I'm not saying

588
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: Ty Simpson is in the bad quarterback hope he gets

589
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 3: into the league, does well, doesn't people don't judge him

590
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,159
Speaker 3: off of his rookie season. Lets him get around the

591
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: team that's actually pretty good.

592
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

593
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,159
Speaker 3: Depending on what teams he falls to, he might not

594
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,120
Speaker 3: have to do too much. He might look better than

595
00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 3: cam Ward. Did you know what I'm saying. So, I

596
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 3: think situationally, you just can't put stuff on quarterbacks that

597
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: fast and be like, no, he's the starter, No he's

598
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 3: the bench player. No he's not good. We've seen it

599
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 3: with a lot of quarterbacks to it look good. He

600
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 3: was able to get another contract fifty million dollars. Kyler

601
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: Murray looked good, Sam Donald looked good and then didn't

602
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 3: look good, then started looking good. So it's like different situations,

603
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 3: each quarterback being in a different team, being able to

604
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 3: have time to work. So I'm with mel Kiper because

605
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm a shad door guy. I think that

606
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 3: if he gets the chances to go out there and

607
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: really just play football, he will be a great He'll

608
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: be a starting quarterback in this league.

609
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna agree with you and Mail on this one.

610
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: I just I don't even I don't even know if

611
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:16,240
Speaker 1: I think Tyd Simpson even gets taken in the first round. Dude,

612
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: I just don't see anyone there to take him, because

613
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: it's not really an upside that he could offset that

614
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: what teams would be needing to get, you know what

615
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like just just looking at it, like his

616
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: whole thing of his abilities, you know, to be able

617
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: to like read and process. You know, the defense is

618
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: fast enough so that you know, he can anticipate the throws,

619
00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: like he's waiting for guys to get open and then

620
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, making a throw. You can't do that in

621
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: the NFL because that window. As soon as that window open,

622
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: it'll close on you. And then when he's pressured, he

623
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: panics a little bit. You know, he tries to speed

624
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: up his process. He stops looking down the field, you

625
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: know for open receivers, you know, stuff like that, and

626
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 1: what he only got a full one year actually starting,

627
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: so it could be in experience. While all that is,

628
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,520
Speaker 1: it's just I think it's too much of a risk

629
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: to take on the first round pick. The quarterback position

630
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: ain't really that strong.

631
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 2: What is it? Up? Man?

632
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:23,280
Speaker 1: Those are He'll go to the Raiders obviously, because who

633
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: they got some.

634
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 2: Dude O'Connor or something over there.

635
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: That's the only quarter I think that's the only quarterback

636
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: that got on their roster right now. So he's going

637
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: to go there, I think just simply because of that.

638
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,040
Speaker 1: And after that, you know, I don't I ain't gonna

639
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: get another I don't think another quarterback come out of

640
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:40,840
Speaker 1: the first.

641
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: Round, you know, m hmm.

642
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 3: I think with the Browns, if we want to do that,

643
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,959
Speaker 3: we need to go ahead and get offensive line, and

644
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 3: we need to get a wide receiver, so somebody else

645
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 3: that can we still we addressed the We addressed the line.

646
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: I know. That's what I'm saying.

647
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 3: We got two firsts, so one of them first need

648
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 3: to be if we can get either. Tape early saying

649
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 3: you get more, we get too. That's just building. That's

650
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. That's a lot of that's a

651
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 3: lot of good capital. That's a lot of good capital

652
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: for some players, and I like position positional players. We

653
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 3: need to get a tackle, we need to get a receiver,

654
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 3: and out of our first two picks, and then we

655
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: get some more.

656
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: Then it's just that.

657
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 3: You can get You never can have too many linemen.

658
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: Get another lineman for sure, a baller like so this

659
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 3: definitely offensive line, then it'll be Yeah, I think they'll

660
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 3: be in the right.

661
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 2: Path, yes sir, but again what brown So.

662
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: You kind of gotta be a little less than optimistic

663
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 1: when they get opportunities to be able to go in.

664
00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: The thing is I like where it's moving to. I

665
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: don't look at making miles moving the money to a

666
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: bad thing. It's just giving us up more options. I mean,

667
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 3: y'are not too good at picking the right options. So listen,

668
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 3: yeah right, I mean would rather have them than not.

669
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 3: Now it's just on now, it's on them. Now we

670
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: got Now we literally can look at Barry with the

671
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: picks that he picked and see who it is. Time

672
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: would tell but like the jugkins hit okay, tight end

673
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: hit okay.

674
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 2: Now we get some more.

675
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: Let's see a linebacker, Defensive Player of the year, Rookie

676
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: the year.

677
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 2: Okay, like not bad, that's crazy that all time.

678
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,479
Speaker 1: Listen, y'all had both Defensive Player of the Year Rookie

679
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: of the year, and y'all wont what four games.

680
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: We could have won more? I'm talking it's not it's

681
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: not as bad as a less. We need we need

682
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: some more for sure. I'm saying it's gonna be odd.

683
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: Now. Listen, we got to get understand.

684
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: You got to get some points on the board. Listen,

685
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 1: you said get a lot from my understand. You can

686
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: get allowed for Miles. But what you're going to have

687
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: to realize is you're going to now take away those Yeah,

688
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: blocking him, that allows your other guys to do what

689
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: they did.

690
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 2: So now that.

691
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: Rookie linebacker that is running around doing everything.

692
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 2: So we're gonna get a lot from Miles too.

693
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 3: Because for Michael Parsons, they got two first and a

694
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 3: player and they had to give him a new contract.

695
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 3: Miles is coming under under a deal of forty He

696
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: already coming with the deal, so they don't have to

697
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: restructure his contract. That's good business. So they don't have

698
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: to give him a new deal. We already coming with smooth.

699
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: Which they care if they had to give him a

700
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: new deal, if they got him, y'all just needed.

701
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 2: It easier for somebody else to get him. Yeah, yeah,

702
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 2: that's good for that.

703
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: That's good, that's good for your business. Yeah, yes, I understand. Hey, Joe,

704
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: speaking of Joe, we got another joke. Joe Flacco over

705
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: there with the Bangals. He had he had a little

706
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: something to say about you know, nobody's starting signing for

707
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: a starting up position.

708
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Listen, what the hold up is?

709
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: I probably do feel that way. I feel like I

710
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 4: have unfinished business. That's part of why I'm still here

711
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 4: and playing and doing all those things and and and

712
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 4: not being one of those guys to go sign somewhere. Yeah,

713
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: it pisses me off a little bit, but but at

714
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: the same time, like I'm I'm very happy to be here.

715
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 4: And that's and that's also why I don't see this

716
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 4: as the end. Like I I that's just not how

717
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 4: I'm viewing it in my mind, Like I feel like

718
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 4: I can help a team win, and yeah, it may

719
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 4: be in a different role here, but I do still

720
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 4: think I can help this team win in that role.

721
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 4: I had a lot of fun with Joe, and Joe's

722
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 4: the guy, and believe me, I wish I was a

723
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,919
Speaker 4: guy somewhere, and I think teams are dumb for.

724
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 2: Not having me be that guy.

725
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: But it is what it is, and I'm not going

726
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 4: to let me. I'm not going to let them or

727
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 4: it get me down. I'm going to be the person

728
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 4: I am and just approach football the way I always have.

729
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: Mhm mm hmmm mm hmm. Now you feel no debo.

730
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: You you tell me first how you feel about how

731
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: you feel.

732
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 2: About mister Flack up. Hey, he said dumb, He said

733
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 2: they dumb.

734
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: Joe flac Oh, Joe Flackoh, I'm talking to you, man, Hey,

735
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what or like who you're talking about.

736
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: I would love for you to give me some some

737
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: clarity on the team or the teams if.

738
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: That's what you're saying.

739
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: You know they're dumb stupid for not signing you to

740
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: come in there and start. So you're obviously looking at

741
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 1: a team or starters that are currently on a roster

742
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: and you're you're better than or whatever, and you could

743
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 1: be the starting quarterback there.

744
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: And I don't have.

745
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: A a roller decks of the starting quarterbacks in the

746
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 1: NFL right now. So I just would love a little

747
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: bit of clarity and put it out there where you

748
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: think you would be starting and help the team better

749
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: than the starter that's there.

750
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 2: That's all I'm.

751
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 3: Asking for, yep, And that's what exactly what I'm looking at.

752
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,400
Speaker 3: Because when you say that, and you say that, you

753
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: know you're at the role that you're in with the Bengals.

754
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 3: You're a backup. Joe's the guy. Okay, you said that,

755
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 3: Joe's the guy. You know that you're back up here

756
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 3: in your role. What other teams? What other teams are

757
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: you thinking that you're going to be the start a

758
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 3: quarterback for? I'm thinking now, off the top of my head,

759
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 3: basically he played for. He's looking at the Browns, the Steelers.

760
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 3: You know, he's looking at anybody who doesn't have a

761
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 3: certified quarterback.

762
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 2: Somebody that's looking for a quarterback maybe needs one. Listen,

763
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: I don't want to start. I don't want to start,

764
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 2: no shit. Okay, that's a look. That's what I'm telling you. Look, Debo,

765
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 2: you brought it up.

766
00:36:55,080 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: He's talking about quarterbacks better than popped into my head. Yes,

767
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's sitting back looking at the

768
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: Kansas City situation, Okay, yes, thinking maybe y'all did this

769
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: when y'all could have did this.

770
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 2: Atlanta Me, which one would you go with?

771
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: Joe in that situation with my homes down for at

772
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 1: least some time?

773
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: Who you going with? Approving or not improven? You going

774
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:34,400
Speaker 2: Flacco or you going Fields? I saw.

775
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 3: For me and what I saw would Flacco do? With

776
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: the Bengals and what he could do with some weapons.

777
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 2: He's a vet. He could put the ball in a

778
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: little bit of places. I'm not. I'm not.

779
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 3: We saw they picked you know what else he's looking at?

780
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: Philip Rivers came off the couch and was out there

781
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: slinging it around. So if I'm Joe, last time you

782
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 3: seen me, I was starting I was throwing it to Chase.

783
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: I was throwing it the Higgins jump. Which you want?

784
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: Are you going with?

785
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 1: Stop flying this way in that way and tell me

786
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 1: which one.

787
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:10,399
Speaker 3: You're going with? I said Joe, Joe, I said, Joe. Hey,

788
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 3: I said Joe. That's the only thing I can think of. Okay,

789
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: So what where would you go?

790
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: Joe? Okay?

791
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 3: So we okay, thank we go, Okay, thank you. I'm

792
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 3: just saying I'm not.

793
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: When I saw old sitting and slang it, he go

794
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: see it and get it there? What are you talking about?

795
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 3: I am on the same page as you. So just

796
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 3: give him a little bit of protection some time. His

797
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 3: mind is sharp, Joe flaggo like. He's not dumb. And

798
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,439
Speaker 3: that's why I always love him, Because if you got

799
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 3: a receiver quarterbacks you want, he's gonna he's gonna give

800
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 3: you a chance. He's gonna get a dB a chance too,

801
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 3: but he's gonna give.

802
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: You a chance. Those are nice ball throws it on time.

803
00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna believe in his time, and you need to

804
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 3: be where you're supposed to be on time. So I

805
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 3: like that in a quarterback when I know, boom, you

806
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: got Andy Reid there, So just for me, sorry, I mean,

807
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 3: I love Justin, but I hope he can do that.

808
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 3: If you have these great coordinators that it's on timing.

809
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 3: You got to put the ball in these positions. Sometimes

810
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: it might not be open. You're throwing the windows that

811
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 3: you're throwing it to these spots, and these dudes are

812
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 3: really putting it there. Flaco is a spot guy where

813
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: he's like, all right, I'm something. He's throwing it before

814
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 3: you get there. So like, if the dB jumps it,

815
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: it might be a pick, but I'm telling you it's

816
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 3: going to be. It's gonna if it if it works

817
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 3: sometimes more likely than not.

818
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: So I don't maybe I don't know. That's the only

819
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: thing I can think of.

820
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 3: When you say things like that, you looking and you're

821
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: looking at the other teams around the league, and like,

822
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 3: who you're better than you know what I'm saying, Like, man,

823
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: they're tripping. I could be there because I think I'm

824
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,320
Speaker 3: better than whoever started on these teams.

825
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 2: Yes, because I.

826
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 3: Know that if I were to say that old man

827
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: like no, I man, I'm back up here because I'm

828
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: behind Joey Porter Jr.

829
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I'm the third corner.

830
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: But looking around that man, somebody could have picked me

831
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: up for show because I'm better than the Seattle corner.

832
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: I know that. That's you know what I'm saying, Like,

833
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 3: that's right. I felt right like he was going like.

834
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,919
Speaker 2: Man, I see his mother d n starting. You better

835
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 2: than them? Oh yes, sir