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Speaker 1: least these two guys. Now, welcome to the radio home

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Speaker 1: of ron Andanian the Car Doctor, since this is where

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Speaker 1: car owners the world over turned to for their definitive

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Speaker 1: Ronny and the Car Doctor, and hopefully your engines do start,

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Speaker 1: for the past twenty six plus years. My name is

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Speaker 1: Ron and Anian a k. The card doctor at zero

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Speaker 1: for the next two hours. The website here is Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: what's your name again? Uh? Well, it depends. It depends

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Speaker 1: They they really do an outstanding job in inventorying and

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Speaker 1: was a heck of a Friday. You know, we do

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Speaker 1: this show live Saturday afternoons two to four pm, in

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Speaker 1: So it was Friday morning yesterday and there was a

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Speaker 1: And you're just trying to get through Friday, and one

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Speaker 1: Let's just have one thing. Do we need this way?

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Speaker 1: Tilton Tintinton, Tinton Falls, New Jersey, Oh one four tours Ron.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help?

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Speaker 1: Thank you very much, tell a little problem. Basically, what

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Speaker 1: I'll keep it from start, It'll keep it from cranking, right,

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Speaker 1: All right, So this sounds like you've got a fault

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Speaker 1: and you know, and and it's okay to think about that,

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Speaker 1: If you had the battery terminals off since you had

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Speaker 1: So I did check that before and there was not nothing. Well,

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Speaker 1: five five five zero nine zero. Rominating the car doctor

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Speaker 1: busy phones and talk to Eric and Homer Louisiana. Oh wait,

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Speaker 1: Nissan sentra. Eric, Welcome to the car Doctors. How can

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Speaker 1: I help? Thanks for a two quick questions. If if

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Speaker 1: I use a Wicks premium filter and um uh the

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Speaker 1: um take a breath, synthetic synthetic oil. Yeah the uh

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Speaker 1: Ums all synthetic If I use that with the Wicks filter, um,

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Speaker 1: And I don't want to wait till five or six

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Speaker 1: often are you changing oil? Well? I was using pins

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Speaker 1: lot of this depends on your driving style. Eric, you know,

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Speaker 1: stretch it to seven Okay, I think beyond that, I

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Speaker 1: don't see the need number one and number two, this

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get under the hood and check fluid levels

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Speaker 1: I think you miss understand my question. I don't. I

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Speaker 1: changed it at four five thousand miles, Okay, um, five

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Speaker 1: the same set up in the ranger, alright, the little

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Speaker 1: all right, you know, but I do get under the

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Speaker 1: on it has got everything it needs to keep going. So,

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00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, not that I misunderstood it. I'm just

428
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 1: trying to also give you a balance here. Uh, five thousands, fine,

429
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 1: six thousands fine, to go beyond that. I'm just not

430
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 1: a fan of it, all right, I I you know,

431
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 1: but again a lot of it depends on your driving style.

432
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: But from what you're telling me, five thousand miles, which

433
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 1: will come out to be every and we should talk

434
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 1: about time every how fast you're gonna do five thousand miles, Eric,

435
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 1: four months, five months, three months, okay? Yeah, then three months,

436
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 1: five thousand miles you're gonna do five thousand miles and

437
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: three months you're doing a lot of driving, brother, So

438
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 1: you know what, I put you on a I put

439
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: you on a D and twenty days schedule at the

440
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 1: shop time wise, and I put you on a five

441
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 1: thousand mile interval and you'll be just fine, absolutely And

442
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:53,720
Speaker 1: you're using and you're using Penn's oil synthetic. You said, yeah, yeah, yeah,

443
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: you'll be fine. All right, You'll be absolutely fine, all right, sir.

444
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,960
Speaker 1: The other question I had was, and I don't have

445
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: the paperwork confirmed me, but I got a diagnosed that

446
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 1: I needed to replace the right side catalytic converters P

447
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: zero zero. Uh, it's that sounds like it, but I

448
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: don't have the paperwork confirm me. So I got the

449
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 1: I got the catalytic converters changed. Three days later, the

450
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: check engine light came on again and the same codes

451
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: popped up. I wouldn't. I went back over there. He

452
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 1: cleared the codes, and he told me get back with

453
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: him if they pop up again. And sure enough, I

454
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,480
Speaker 1: got the check engine light on again. What should he

455
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 1: be looking for? Okay, So let me ask the hard question.

456
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 1: Who's who's catalytic converters did he use? I'm not sure?

457
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 1: After market? I'm sure right probably, so so let me

458
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 1: tell you. Let me tell you why a vehicle sets

459
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: a catalytic converter efficiency code? All right, there are. There

460
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 1: are two sensors involved in this. Let's you know, bank

461
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 1: per bank, so bank one, you've got an oxygen sensor,

462
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: and simplest terms, you've got an oxygen sensor in front

463
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,160
Speaker 1: of the cat. You've got an oxygen sensor after the cat.

464
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,959
Speaker 1: The oxygen sensor in front of the cat is going

465
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: to produce a mixed signal. It's reacting to oxygen content

466
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 1: as dictated by where fuel trim is on the engine.

467
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 1: So if the engines running lean less fuel, it's gonna

468
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,040
Speaker 1: see a higher oxygen concentrate. If it's running rich more fuel,

469
00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna see a lower oxygen concentrate. And the O

470
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 1: two sensor is gonna show that high voltage low voltage.

471
00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 1: A catalytic converter is designed by what it's supposed to do.

472
00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: It will store oxygen up to a certain level. So

473
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,919
Speaker 1: while the front sensor is bouncing all over the place,

474
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,000
Speaker 1: the sensor after the cat is going to be at

475
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: a steady fixed voltage. Generally high is considered good and

476
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,640
Speaker 1: then at the right time when it wants to. When

477
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: the catalytic converter goes into its process and the computer

478
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: knows this, it will see a change of state in

479
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,680
Speaker 1: the rear sensor, and it's it's looking get the difference

480
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: between the two. If your mechanic goes in and looks

481
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: at what it's O sensors d O two sensors are doing,

482
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: it's called an oxygen storage capacity or osc oxygen storage

483
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 1: capacity test. And if he sees both sensors roughly the same,

484
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: or if he sees activity on the rear sensor along

485
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: with the front sensor, maybe not at the same level,

486
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,480
Speaker 1: what that tells me is either the new cat is

487
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: bad because new doesn't mean good, or it tells me

488
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: that the uh, there's there's a bigger problem here, there's

489
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 1: something else going on. Now. A catalytic converter code can

490
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: also be caused by engine temperature, a thermostatic problem. It

491
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: can also be caused by other fuel trim issues. It's

492
00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: not always a cat. Nowhere in that flow chart does

493
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,359
Speaker 1: it say P zero four twenty change catalytic converter. It'll

494
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 1: say P zero four zero four thirty diagnosed as per

495
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: manufacturer and sometime that you know, it takes a little

496
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 1: bit of work. Everybody throws cats at them because nobody

497
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: wants to diagnose it. But you can do an oxygen

498
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: storage capacity test. There are several tests to determine is

499
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: it cat, is its sensor? Is it engine related? That

500
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 1: being said, here's my argument against the aftermarket cats and

501
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: a lot of vehicles. And I know the price is attractive.

502
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: What did you pay for the repair? Eric? Do you remember?

503
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure you do? Okay, for both cats? Right? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

504
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: I would, I would. I would venture to guess those

505
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:40,360
Speaker 1: cats out of Nissan are probably a thousand apiece. Are

506
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,560
Speaker 1: you pretty close? Yeah? Okay? And and and and the

507
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:48,360
Speaker 1: reason And here's my argument, all right, I always think

508
00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 1: of a shoebox. I always think of women's shoes and

509
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: men's shoes, right, the women's shoes, the shoe boxes a

510
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: little smaller. The men's shoebox. The shoebox is a little bigger, right,

511
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: the men's shoe boxes the oe cat that were and shoeboxes.

512
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: The aftermarket cat all right, typically it's a third smaller.

513
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 1: How much longer? You know? How's that gonna last? And

514
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 1: I get it, it's a nine year old vehicle. How

515
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: long do we want it to last? But the problem is,

516
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 1: depending upon what brand of cat it was, does it

517
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: even have the ability to meet minimum specification and on

518
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: an older vehicle, how many miles are on this not

519
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: a lot. That's really not a lot for the age

520
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: of this truck. But you know, just breaking in baby,

521
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: all right, this thing will go two on a thousand.

522
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what, I can tell you what's gonna go

523
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: wrong with this thing. It's gonna need timing change in

524
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: a buck forty if it doesn't need them already. It's

525
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 1: gonna go through a trans and maybe a lower radiator

526
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 1: cooler at some point, and catalytic converters. Other than that,

527
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: the truck will run forever. Parts will fall off it

528
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 1: because of rust, but the truck will run forever. Um,

529
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 1: you know. But my argument is aftermarket cats versus OE.

530
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 1: I just don't see the capacity and sometimes I don't

531
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 1: think they're up to do in the job. Have your

532
00:27:57,320 --> 00:27:59,240
Speaker 1: mechanic go back, run some more of those tests. If

533
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: you've got any more question, give me a call back.

534
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:05,200
Speaker 1: We'll go from there. All right, sir, You're very welcome.

535
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: Eric eight five five zero running any of the car

536
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: doctor back right after this welcome back? Weren't any of

537
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 1: the car doctor. Let's roll it along here, we're getting

538
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: backed up. Let's go talk to Nick in Texas ninety

539
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,199
Speaker 1: six jeep Cherokee and some problems with the way it's

540
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880
Speaker 1: running on injectors. Nick, Welcome to the car, doctor, sir,

541
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: How can I help? Oh? Yes, sir, Well, I've check

542
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: all the injectors and I've checked all the wiring and stuff,

543
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 1: you know, and uh what I got is, uh, I

544
00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: have been six on the injector wires. They'll turn the

545
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: key on and you get a little power coming out.

546
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 1: But uh with the tester uh uh whatever it is

547
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 1: called the own own district, I've owned it too, and

548
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: I'll get power all the way over to one. Alright,

549
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: well here, let me let me Nick, let's start here.

550
00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: What's actually what's actually wrong with the vehicle? What's doing

551
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: that's that's generating this one? Call? Well that uh, five

552
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: and six injector wires are not pulsating. Okay, so you've

553
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 1: got no So you've got no signal on the two

554
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: injector wires, which on that cars. On five it's gray

555
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: and on six it's the um uh it's six, it's

556
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: the brown, right. Um. So in other words, you've got

557
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: power on the orange on each injector, but you've got

558
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: no pulse you're using a little noise light and you

559
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 1: get no blink blinks. Okay, So and obviously you've got

560
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: two dead holes now right, So it's running on four cylinders?

561
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: Is a four oh I assume obviously it's a six

562
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: cylinder engine, so there's a four leader. So you know,

563
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: did this happen overnight? Did this just you know, gradually

564
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: or I just now got it to that? Whenever I

565
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: got it, Uh, it had a short on the ignition

566
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: wires coming out of the ignition going through the by

567
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: the frame or by the steering column. Okay, they were

568
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: they were shortened out right there. So I changed the

569
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 1: ignition out. I've changed the computer out, I've changed the

570
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 1: uh crank since there's the the um safety switched the

571
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: let's let's let's I got I got the power going

572
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: because they couldn't even get a spark on it whenever

573
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: I got it from these other people. And uh then

574
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,719
Speaker 1: uh uh so I figured out what was stopping a spark.

575
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,959
Speaker 1: But now the injectors want to fire off. All right,

576
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: So let me ask you this, nick um. Just let's

577
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: just cover the basics. Have you owned all the injectors

578
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: to be sure that they're all roughly the same. Yes, sir, yes, sir,

579
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: I've changed them out from one to the other and

580
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: stuff like that. And only the four work. The first

581
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: four work, the last sick, the last two won't work.

582
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: So just just humor me. So I make a diagnostician

583
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: at you. Just just just own all the injectors, if

584
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 1: you would, just I just I just want to hear

585
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: a number. I want to know six point eight ms,

586
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: eighteen olms, whatever it is, all right, And I don't

587
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: think it's gonna solve this car, and I'm not looking

588
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: to it, but I'm just trying to get you in

589
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: the habit of doing something, because once you start to

590
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: do it, you know, if I teach you how to

591
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 1: diagnose this one, you'll diagnose everyone the same and you'll

592
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 1: end up with a good running vehicle. So just just

593
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: omed for the sake of oming. If that's number one,

594
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: number two, you know, if you've got power on the

595
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: orange but you've got no signal on the gray or

596
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: the brown, then you know my next step is, can

597
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,920
Speaker 1: we can we own going back from the you know,

598
00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: the gray on number five? If we if we own

599
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: that wire back to the PCM, do we have continuity? Yes,

600
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 1: we did well if if you And that's what I

601
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: was wondering. That's what a mechanic asked me too. He says,

602
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: you might get a power surge right there, and uh,

603
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, a power on when you turn the key on,

604
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: but you won't get the pulse because it might have

605
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 1: a slight break in the wire and uh, you get

606
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: good at almost reading and then uh, it might be

607
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 1: not enough connection right there to uh, well, listen, I

608
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: think I think this is simpler than that. I think

609
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: you've got continuity on the brown, you've got continuity on

610
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: the gray. And as long as you're on the right wires,

611
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: if nothing's shorted to each other and you should read,

612
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: you should you should alm across them to see could

613
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 1: you have a possible short at harness Because you're you're

614
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: describing a harness issue with this, pull the whole harness

615
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: all the wires, because you're kind of down to the

616
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 1: point where if you've got continuity in the harness and

617
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: nothing's rubbing or touching, that pcm you put in is

618
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,240
Speaker 1: no good. That's the only logical thing. That's the only

619
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: logical thing left, you know, is the driver shorted And

620
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: you know that's I'll tell you what, Just stand the

621
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 1: line one quick second and um Nick, let me just

622
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: go pull over and take this poise. When we come back,

623
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: I'll finish up with you. Zo. We're coming right back.

624
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: Don't go away. Welcome back right in the of the

625
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: car ocurated by five zero, Nick, Texas. You're still there, sir. Correct.

626
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: Here's what I want you to do, all right, listen

627
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: to me. I want you to unplug number five injector.

628
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: All right. You're gonna have hot on the orange and

629
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna have nothing on that gray correct. All right,

630
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 1: So think about that gray wire all right. I want

631
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 1: you to insert. I want you to get a headlight.

632
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: I want to do a loaded I want to do

633
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: a loaded circuit test. All right. I want you to

634
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,760
Speaker 1: get a headlight. Put the hot leg of the headlight

635
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: into the gray wire. Put the other leg of the

636
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 1: headlight to ground. Okay. I want you to find that

637
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 1: wire that you believe is correct, that gray wire at

638
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: the PCM disconnected. Put twelve vaults on that wire. Use it,

639
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: use it, use a fused source. Okay. So if there's

640
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: a short, we're gonna blow the fuse and not fry something.

641
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: All right. If that circuits, good, the headlights got a

642
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: light correct, right, If the headlight, if that circuit can

643
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: handle the load of the headlight, what's left the driver

644
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: of the PCM. Right, And I want you to do

645
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: the same thing to number six, Yeah, to the gray right,

646
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: all right? No, to the number six is yet to

647
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: the brown. Number six is the brown? Right? Yeah? Yeah,

648
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: number six is the brown right? Five? Yeah, my, my,

649
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: you know, my mind tells me bad PCM. But you

650
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: know I'm not there seeing the vehicle, and I've got

651
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,600
Speaker 1: this picture in my head of a vehicles thinking before

652
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: I unwrapped all the the wire, the the whatever it's called,

653
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 1: all the wire on the underneath the dash, I mean

654
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: underneath a hood right there, and traced all those wires

655
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: back and made sure wasn't any shorts. There was once

656
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: short on the air circuit on the intake on the

657
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 1: air and uh there was one short right there, and

658
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that goes to the same spot right by where the

659
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: uh all the wires from the injector. Yeah, I think,

660
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: and Nick, the clock is gonna take me. I'm sorry, babe,

661
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: but I think you've got a harness issue here, and

662
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: I want you to make sure of it before you

663
00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 1: go putting PCMs and A try a loaded circuit test.

664
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: See where that goes. I'm runna needing the car doctor.

665
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: If the mechanics aren't expensive, good, placeless