1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast in the Clay 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: and Book Podcast Network. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. I'm Tutor Dixon, and 4 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 2: I'm so glad you are joining me today. I'm joined 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 2: by one of our leading health experts and doctors who's 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: out there not only practicing and serving her patients, but 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 2: also educating the rest of us on TV every day, 8 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Doctor Nicole Sapphire. You might recognize her from Fox News. 9 00:00:28,440 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 2: She's a physician and radiologist as well as the director 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 2: of breast imaging at the Memorial Sloan Kettering Cancer Center, 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,239 Speaker 2: which is near and dear to my heart being a 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 2: cancer survivor myself, Doctor Sapphire, thank you for joining me. 13 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm excited to 14 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: be here. 15 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: Interesting. 16 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,200 Speaker 2: I'm a breast cancer survivor, so I appreciate what you do. 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,480 Speaker 2: It's so important. I mean, honestly, the people at the hospital. 18 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: I just can't say good enough things about what you 19 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 2: guys do because I couldn't never do it. And every 20 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: time I was in the hospital for a surgery anything, 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 2: I would look around and think, I'm so glad that 22 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 2: people exist that can do this stuff. 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: Because it's so far beyond me. 24 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 3: Well, I'm so sorry to hear what you went through, 25 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: but look at how well you're doing. I'm so happy 26 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: to see that. 27 00:01:10,760 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Well it's because of people like you, so thank you 28 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: so much. And actually talking about that, I wanted to 29 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 2: get into some of the health issues that we are 30 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: looking at today, because we've got a lot of health 31 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 2: issues with our young people. We just saw Lebron james 32 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 2: Son had a heart attack, and I wanted to talk 33 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 2: a little bit about that because it seems like we're 34 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,840 Speaker 2: seeing heart conditions younger and younger. But I don't really 35 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,839 Speaker 2: have a lot of experience with heart conditions in my family, 36 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: and I think there's a lot of people out there 37 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 2: that are seeing these things and going, how. 38 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: Do I know? 39 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 2: And what do I do? And what is the lasting 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: impact of something like this? So how do you monitor 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: your kids for something like this? And then once this happens, 42 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess we would be expecting him to 43 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 2: be an elite athlete someday like his father. 44 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Does this hurt the chances of that? 45 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: You know? 46 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 3: Those are all great questions. I'm myself a mother of 47 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 3: three boys, and it's certainly something I think about you know, 48 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 3: when we've been hearing some of these anecdotes about Lebron James' son. 49 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: We also had the football player who had cardiac arrest. 50 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 3: I mean, these were all again, these are stories that 51 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,640 Speaker 3: we are hearing, and because of social media, we're all 52 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 3: more tuned into these individual incidences. Unfortunately, throughout COVID, I 53 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: think we really have politicized the science and all of 54 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 3: a sudden, anytime you hear a heart condition in a younger, 55 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: specifically male, you know, people's you know, radar goes up 56 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 3: a little bit. They're like, well, hold on a second, 57 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 3: is this as a result from those vaccines? And that 58 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: seems to be on the top of everyone's mind right now. 59 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 3: And the truth is, at the end of the day, 60 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 3: heart conditions happened prior to COVID. They happened prior to 61 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 3: the COVID vaccine, and they're certainly going to continue to 62 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 3: happen as we go throughout our lives. Now. Whether or 63 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 3: not there has been any fallout from the COVID vaccines 64 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 3: when it comes to any cardiac issues, specifically in our 65 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 3: younger populations, that's going to take a few years to come. 66 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:00,640 Speaker 3: We certainly know that there were some vaccines side effects 67 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: such as the myocarditis or inflammation of the heart, especially 68 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: in younger males. Myocarditis tends to be mild and self limiting, 69 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 3: it can result to long term damage. Some of that 70 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: long term damage can ultimately lead to cardiac arrests. However, 71 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: at this point, it is way too early to say 72 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 3: that some of these stories we're hearing about right now 73 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 3: have anything to do about the cardiac vaccine. And actually 74 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 3: one of the biggest or the COVID vaccine excuse me, 75 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,519 Speaker 3: one of the biggest studies came out of Chicago King's 76 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: County Hospital System. They looked at all cardiac incidences of 77 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: cardiac arrest of kids from about zero to thirty five 78 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: years of age, and they said, over about thirty years, 79 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: they identified over a little bit over three hundred cases 80 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: of it and the most common causes of that. And 81 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: by the way, this is all before COVID, so obviously 82 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 3: what was happening before COVID. The most the causes were 83 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 3: coronary art disease, and really we saw that in the 84 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 3: twenty five to thirty five year olds, but also what 85 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: we call primary electrical abnormality, where just the electrical system 86 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 3: of the heart kind of fails, and then also cardiomyopathies. Now, 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 3: kids can be born with cardiomyopathies, they can also be 88 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: born with some conditions that predispose them to these electrical conditions. 89 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: That's why as parents you start seeing when your kids 90 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 3: start playing sports, you have to sign all of this paperwork, 91 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 3: and some of it is talking about heart disease. These 92 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 3: heart disease does affect our kids. Now, that is certainly 93 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 3: one thing that a pediatrician checks for, which is why 94 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 3: those annual visits to pediatricians are crucial, because they tend 95 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 3: to pick up on some of the very nuanced symptoms 96 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 3: that happen early on with kids with heart disease. So 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: those wellness visits are very very important. But it's important 98 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 3: to remember that the farm minority of children will have 99 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: some sort of cardiac defects, so we don't have to 100 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 3: be paralyzed, and we should always let our kids play sports. 101 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: It's funny, I literally just got back from a well 102 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: visit with my twins earlier today and they we're both. 103 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: Like, why do they have to listen to our heart? 104 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: Why do we have to go in every year? 105 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: And I, you know, not being a doctor, I'm like 106 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: they just have to make sure you're okay. But it 107 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: is good to know why they have to, because as 108 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 2: a parent, you just kind of obediently do some of 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: these things and not really understand the background well. 110 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 3: And absolutely, and the thing is, as you know with everything, 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,839 Speaker 3: early detection saves lives. Early detection of a cardiac defect 112 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 3: or something else and being able to get in and 113 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: fix it before it causes severe damage or any sort 114 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: of severe outcome is obviously the way we want to go. 115 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 3: The last thing we want it to happen is say, 116 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 3: cardiac arrest on a football field or on a basketball court, 117 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: because obviously at that point there's a high mortality associated 118 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: with that. Now, when it comes to Lebron james Son, 119 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 3: it's very possible that he had an underlying heart condition. 120 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 3: We don't have any of that information yet, so it'll 121 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 3: be interesting to hear if there was anything on this 122 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 3: preceding well exams and you know, at the doctor's office 123 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 3: that potentially led to this. 124 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 2: I think that something that a lot of us, well 125 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: I know a lot of the parents that I've been 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 2: talking to have been concerned because we're this weird generation 127 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: of parents who had our kids stay home for a 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 2: year and snack and not be as active as they 129 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: were before. And suddenly we're going into you know, three 130 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: years out and some of our kids, we admit, have 131 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: started some pretty unhealthy habits and they've gotten used to 132 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 2: being inside. 133 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: So here's summer, and I feel like I'm always pushing. 134 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 2: My kids go outside and play, go outside and play, 135 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 2: and that used to be something natural. We have seen 136 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 2: kids gaining weight, and I think this was a trend 137 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: that we had been seeing because as I've talked to 138 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: other doctors, they've said, well, we've seen fatty livers. I 139 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 2: don't even know what that is, but somebody had told 140 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 2: us that and sounds terrifying. 141 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: I'm like, what does a fatty liver mean? And how 142 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: does that happen? 143 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 2: I mean, really, I think as parents right now, we 144 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 2: don't have great information on staying healthy, and we are 145 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,239 Speaker 2: seeing our kids consume a lot of processed food and 146 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: not be as sow What have you been seeing and 147 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: what are some good tips for parents to help their 148 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 2: kids get back on track? 149 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: Well? Pre COVID, my book that came out was Make 150 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: America Healthy Again, and I essentially talk about how bad 151 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 3: behaviors have really caused a huge billion dollar deficit, and 152 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 3: a lot of that has to do with obesity and 153 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 3: weight related illness. Faty liver, I see it all the time. 154 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: Just think of your liver and your kidneys as the 155 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,320 Speaker 3: body's filtration system. But when you have excess fat in 156 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 3: your body, it actually just deposits into the liver. And 157 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 3: so when we're imaging it, whether it's on an memorai 158 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: CT scan or ultrasound, the liver looks different. You can 159 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 3: see the fat there, and yeah, we're seeing it in kids, 160 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 3: and it's terrifying. 161 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 2: Naturally, it can happen if you have I mean, I 162 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: just don't know a lot. 163 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 3: Obesity is not even just obesity, but just being overweight. 164 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 3: It's not just about oh, someone's overweight. Now you have 165 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: to really think about what that does to the body 166 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 3: and mind for that matter. So when it comes to 167 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 3: the body obesity and just being overweight, excess weight, that 168 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 3: can cause metabolic issues, diabetes, liver, kidney disease. It can 169 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: cause a plethora of cancers, breast cancer being one of them, 170 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 3: because a lot of breast cancers are hormone dependent and 171 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 3: guess what fat cells do. They secrete estrogen, So all 172 00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 3: of a sudden your estrogen sensitive tumors, breast, uterine, and 173 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 3: some others, you are an increased risk of cancer, not 174 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 3: to mention many other cancers because of the excess weight. 175 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 3: We need to start thinking about being overweight and obesity 176 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 3: as the equivalent of smoking. It is not healthy. There's 177 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: nothing good about being overweight and being obese, which is 178 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 3: why it is very upsetting when I start seeing, yes, 179 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 3: the whole body positive movement. Yes, I want every person 180 00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: to be comfortable in their own skin. It is important 181 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: for our mental health. But we certainly should not be 182 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: misrepresenting that someone who is overweight or obese is the 183 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 3: image of health. And unfortunately that's the way that we're 184 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 3: going in our society and it is just not true 185 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 3: and it is going to be very harmful to future generations. 186 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you this is going to 187 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:02,199 Speaker 1: be really random. 188 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw the Barbie movie, but 189 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 2: there's a point when the mom in the Barbie movie 190 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: is like. 191 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: It's so hard to be a woman. You have to 192 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 1: be thin, but not too thin. You can't say you 193 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 1: want to be thin, you have to say you want 194 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: to be healthy. 195 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 2: And I think I'm a mom of four girls, and 196 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: I was watching that and I'm like, I completely understand 197 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 2: what she's talking about, because I want to talk to 198 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 2: my girls about being healthy. But everything pushed on me 199 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 2: is don't talk to them about being a healthy weight 200 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 2: or they will become and anarexic. But then also pushed 201 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: on them that except being overweight. But I, how do 202 00:09:35,840 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: you have that conversation anymore in this society? 203 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: I have three boys, Like I said, so, I have 204 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 3: not seen the Barbie movie, and I don't know my future, 205 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: but you know I will tell you. Though. We have 206 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 3: a lot of conversations at my house, weight is not 207 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,719 Speaker 3: necessarily one of them. But healthy eating and physical activity 208 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 3: are daily conversations. I mean, one of the things, especially 209 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 3: during COVID that was really important in my household was 210 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,319 Speaker 3: that we eat the colors of the rainbow to make 211 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 3: sure our body was as strong as possible should we 212 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 3: get infected with COVID. This as well before we really 213 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 3: knew much about it. And so as long as you 214 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 3: instill in them healthy habits, that is what is important. 215 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 3: It's not about a number on a scale. It certainly isn't. 216 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: It's not one size fits all, it's not black and white. 217 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 3: But if you instill in your children what they should 218 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 3: be eating, what is healthy, what is not healthy, and 219 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 3: really just hammering into them how important physical activity is. 220 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 3: That doesn't mean they need to be a gym rat 221 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 3: or they need to be the star of the basketball team. 222 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 3: It just means that they can't be sedentary. And unfortunately, 223 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 3: there are a lot of them are sedentary these days. So 224 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 3: even if they're just walking more, they're outside more, they're 225 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 3: swimming more. I mean, that's all you need to do. 226 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 227 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:52,680 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. So you said eat the colors 228 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: of the rainbow, and you mean in fruits and vegetables, 229 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 2: but there are a lot of food dies in our 230 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 2: food and I wanted to ask, I mean, this has 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: been a conversation that we've heard from RFK Junior and people, 232 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 2: but we don't hear a whole lot about food dies. 233 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 2: The United States has food dies that other countries do 234 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 2: not allow. Do food dies affect us negatively? 235 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 3: The United States has a lot of unhealthy things that 236 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 3: a lot of countries don't have, and it's really astounding 237 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 3: that we continue to do it. If you really look 238 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: into a lot of the processed foods, even a lot 239 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 3: of the smoked meats, The cancer causing chemicals that are 240 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: contained within that. I mean, it's astounding. You know. The 241 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 3: argument is, well, there are just such small amounts, it's 242 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 3: not that big of a deal. But at the end 243 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 3: of the day, if you're looking at the ingredients on 244 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 3: something and you can't pronounce most of them, like, why 245 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 3: are you putting that into your body? You certainly you know, 246 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: as women, a lot of us are trying to get 247 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: these wonderful creams, we're trying to get shampoo and conditioner, 248 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 3: and we always look at oh, we want the most 249 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: organic and the healthiest, and then we're actually consuming putting 250 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 3: inside of our body, not just on top of our body, 251 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 3: but inside of our body some of these harmful chemicals. Now, now, 252 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 3: don't do me wrong. I am not a health not 253 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 3: by any stretch of the imagination. In my opinion. That's 254 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 3: everything in moderation. I actually had a few oreos last night, 255 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 3: and I am certain there are some ingredients and oreos 256 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: that not pronounce. 257 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: Probably, Yeah. 258 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: I also had a very healthy dinner full of fish, 259 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 3: fruits and vegetables, So you know what, I can have 260 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 3: a few areos if I want. 261 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: So, what you see these kids that are are sitting around, 262 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: They're eating foods that are probably filled with different chemicals. 263 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 2: Kids are getting overweight. How does that affect their mental health? 264 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: Because they're regardless of whether. 265 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: Or not, there is this push that everything is beautiful. 266 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 2: We know that there's still a standard of beauty that 267 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: young women see and they are pressured by. And I 268 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 2: think that there is a standard of physical fitness that 269 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: young men can be pressured by. So how does that 270 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: affect How do those health issues affect mental health and 271 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 2: the strain If you have depression and mental health issues, 272 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: isn't that something that can also then impact your heart? 273 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: Oh? Absolutely. Now, first of all, let's take it back 274 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 3: to the air of the Kardashians. Okay, so you have 275 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: this entire family who have completely morphed themselves physically, not 276 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 3: to mention many of them are billionaires. So they are 277 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:21,079 Speaker 3: giving our younger generations a completely unrealistic idea of what 278 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 3: it is to live. Yes, they post constantly that they're 279 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: working out and they're eating salads and they have shakes 280 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 3: that some personal chef makes to them. But really they've 281 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 3: taken their bodies and their faces, and it's just really 282 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 3: a suggestion of what they were born with, and they 283 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: have had so much plastic surgery with their and then 284 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: they have their private chefs and their private personal trainers 285 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: and nutritionists and it's just not reality. Okay, most of 286 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 3: us don't live that kind of life, but yet they 287 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 3: post these pictures of themselves, which, even with all of that, 288 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: are still altered by some sort of filter. And then 289 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 3: you have a young, impressionable fourteen year old who thinks 290 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 3: that that's what she's supposed to look like, and she's 291 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 3: going to go through drastic measures to be there. So 292 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 3: as adolescents in general already have a high amount of 293 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 3: anxiety and depression just because their hormones are changing, I 294 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 3: mean it is quite an unstable time. Their brain is 295 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 3: still forming and their hormones are going out of control, 296 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 3: and they're extremely impressionable. And when we are talking about, 297 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 3: you know, what's the ideal person to look like or 298 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 3: body type to look like, Yeah, we don't want to 299 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 3: say you have to be skinny, because we don't want 300 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 3: to say, okay, we don't want eating disorders. But the 301 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: flip side of that is we coddle them so much 302 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 3: that we say, okay, eat whatever you want, live a 303 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 3: sedentary lifestyle, and then when they're overweight, that comes with 304 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 3: its own mental health illnesses. And yes, depression, anxiety and 305 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 3: others are directly related to physical health ailments as well. 306 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: If your mind is not healthy, your body is not 307 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 3: going to be healthy, and vice versa. You need them both. 308 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 3: They work together. 309 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 2: It's so funny that you're saying this, because I'm going 310 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 2: to call out one of the people in the room 311 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: here in my office is I can see out of 312 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: the corner of my eye her laughing, because she is 313 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 2: a huge Kardashian span. 314 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 1: That is, she talks about it all the time. She 315 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: loves them, she's she. 316 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 3: I mean, she's in good company. A lot of people 317 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: feel how way. 318 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: Yes, no, I agree, it's so true, but a lot 319 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: of people do. But I do. 320 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 2: I think I do see it differently, as you see 321 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: things differently once you have kids. 322 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: And so being a. 323 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 2: Mom of four girls and watching this and it is 324 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 2: it is hard because it's different than when we grew up. 325 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,119 Speaker 2: My mom didn't have to I meansh there were magazines 326 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 2: that was it. You know, she wasn't worrying about what 327 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: I was getting put in front of my face all 328 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: the time. It's in their hands and we cannot no 329 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: matter how many safeguards and how many times you look 330 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: at their phone, there are things that they can see 331 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: that you that are totally outside of your control. And 332 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: I think it is one of those things where they're 333 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: going to see these things and you have to somehow 334 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 2: be able to talk about it at home to promote 335 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: a healthy lifestyle but also a healthy soul and heart 336 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: on a art from the heart space part of it, 337 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: because I do think that social media is very challenging, 338 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 2: and that was one of the things we talked a 339 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 2: few weeks ago to a doctor who said, honestly, we've 340 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 2: seen exactly what you said. We've seen people out there 341 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 2: saying it's the jab, it's COVID itself. All of these 342 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: things are causing health problems. But he made an interesting point, 343 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: He's like, the pressure that has been on our kids 344 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 2: from social media and then suddenly being locked down, that 345 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 2: can produce a lot of health problems. And how do 346 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 2: you check in on your kids at this point now 347 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: and make sure that all of those pressures that we said, oh, 348 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 2: kids are resilient, but it really did hurt them in 349 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 2: some way, how do we check in on them and 350 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: make sure they're fine. 351 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 3: That was certainly what the CDC hid behind. They're like, 352 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 3: it's okay if kids are out of school, it's okay. 353 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 3: If kids are wearing masks. It doesn't matter the consequences 354 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: because they're resilient and they'll bounce back. But as we 355 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 3: know that they're not as resilient as they would have 356 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 3: liked them to be, and kids are suffering. They certainly 357 00:16:53,040 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 3: are suffering. I can't think of one child who is 358 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 3: better off now than they were pre pandemic. And I 359 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 3: think as a peer, and the best thing you can 360 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: do is just constantly check in with your kids. You 361 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 3: have to talk to your kids. And unfortunately, if a 362 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 3: child is on social media or on their electronic way 363 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: too much, oftentimes that's because the parent is too. If 364 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 3: a parent is actively engaged, it leaves no room for 365 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: the child to be on their electronics too much because 366 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 3: they're engaging their child at that point. And so I 367 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 3: really put the onus on the parents as to what 368 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: they can do. You know, as throughout this last year, 369 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,200 Speaker 3: we actually had a little bit of devastating news in 370 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 3: my own household. My youngest son was given a medical diagnosis. 371 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,160 Speaker 3: It kind of took us off, you know, it took 372 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 3: us by surprise, and it really brought things, you know, 373 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 3: brought things into perspective for us as a family and 374 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 3: our little family unit of five. We realize family is 375 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: just the most important thing. We knew that before, but 376 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: we just really became close knit and all just rallied 377 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 3: around each other over this last year. That's why, you know, 378 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 3: I've written a few I've written a few nonfiction books, 379 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 3: usually a little motivated, you know, mixing some politics with 380 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 3: health care in it. But we decided to do something 381 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 3: completely new. We did a children's book with Brave Books, 382 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 3: and it was wonderful called That's what Family's For. My 383 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 3: son and myself wrote it, and that's what we talked about. 384 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: We talked about, you know, if a kid is going 385 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: through a really rough time, whether it's a medical diagnosis 386 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: or anything. I think every kid has a bad day, 387 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 3: that as long as they have their family by their side, 388 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 3: that things are going to be okay. I mean sure, 389 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 3: maybe not all their problems are going to go away, 390 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 3: but as long as they have the support of their family, 391 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 3: things are all be better than if they don't. 392 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's an important message to share that 393 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:43,680 Speaker 2: families together and families look different. Sometimes it's just mom, 394 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 2: just dad, maybe a one parent is away serving. 395 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,159 Speaker 1: You never know what a family looks like. And so 396 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: family just family being together. 397 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: I mean when I was diagnosed with cancer, I think 398 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: that was for me as mom. My youngest were two 399 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: at the time, and you know, I'm thinking, oh, gosh, 400 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 2: they won't remember me the mid My middle daughter was four, 401 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 2: my oldest was six. It's like, you go through all 402 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: these things, but just that togetherness and my parents were helping, 403 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: it really gets you through a lot. But you know, 404 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 2: you're in the breast imaging area of the hospital. 405 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:20,959 Speaker 1: So when I went in. 406 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: It was twenty fifteen when I went in and I 407 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: was diagnosed, and at that time, my breast surgeon was like, 408 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: I got to tell you, we're seeing younger and younger women. 409 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 2: I was thirty eight at the time when I was 410 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 2: diagnosed with breast cancer. Have you seen cancers and breast 411 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 2: cancer specifically in younger women. 412 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 3: Oh, undoubtedly. I actually sit on the for the CDC, 413 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: the Advisory Committee for Breast Cancer and Young Women. I've 414 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: seen it as young as eight seventeen or eighteen seventeen 415 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: or eighteen. But actually these are just anecdotes. We actually 416 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:57,879 Speaker 3: are seeing a lot more cancer and younger people's breast 417 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: cancer and specifically col rectal can which I. 418 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: Saw that and I just had a friend diagnosed. I 419 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: mean not to cut you off, but I was shocked 420 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 2: because in our forties we're seeing friends with colon cancer. 421 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. So, because we're seeing so many cases in younger 422 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: patient populations, all of a sudden, we have had to 423 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 3: decrease the recommendations for screening polnoscopies. It used to be 424 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 3: fifty if you didn't have a family history. Well now 425 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: we've moved it down to forty five. And some of 426 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 3: us are wondering is that even enough? Should we be 427 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: doing something even earlier than forty five? And you really 428 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 3: have to point to what is causing this, And yes, 429 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,920 Speaker 3: you have some genetic causes, genetic mutations that are continuing 430 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 3: to be passed down, but you also have environmental causes, 431 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: which the chemicals that we put on our skin, whether 432 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 3: it's through our lotions, those that we consume through our foods, 433 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 3: through alcohol. You know, it is a culmination of things. 434 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 3: You know, we live a very different life than we 435 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 3: did one hundred years ago. Sure, we are living a 436 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 3: lot longer, especially because of medications and the ability to 437 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: treat things, which is great. However, we're still we're now 438 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 3: seeing even more cancers. We have a higher survivability, but 439 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: we're seeing more of it. 440 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 2: So I had kind of a naive, a naive feeling 441 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 2: about I was careful, I think about what I ate, 442 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: but I never This is going to sound terrible, but 443 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 2: I really never thought about lotions or anything, or shampoos. 444 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: I was like, I mean it just washes off, you know, 445 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,159 Speaker 2: just never thought about it. And then I kind of 446 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: selfishly get mad because I think, well, if they know 447 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 2: this stuff causes cancer, why are they allowed to put 448 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 2: it in there? So I mean, I'm sure there are 449 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:35,399 Speaker 2: other people in my position who just have used lotion 450 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 2: and not considered it. And then you find out and 451 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: you're like, oh, my gosh, I've been letting my kids 452 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,880 Speaker 2: use that lotion. And I know there was a push 453 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 2: a long time ago, like several years ago. 454 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: Oh you have to be careful of what sun block 455 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: you're using. 456 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 3: Why the sun block? 457 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Why if they're so bad are they out there. 458 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 3: He's a great point, but I mean, because every science 459 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 3: evolves and when they first come out with a product, 460 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: they're like, this is great, it blocks the sun, decreases 461 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 3: the risk of skin cancer. All right, Well, you know 462 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,239 Speaker 3: also has cancer causing chemicals in it as well. And 463 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 3: it's not until ten years worth of data comes out 464 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 3: that shows maybe it's a little bit harmful do they 465 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 3: start rolling it back in. You know, the skin is 466 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 3: your biggest organ of the body, so yeah, you're going 467 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 3: to absorb a lot from the skin. And you know, 468 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 3: there are some people, I'll be honest, there are some 469 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: people who use aluminum free deodorant. They don't put any 470 00:22:26,119 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 3: lotion on, you know, they use the most basic of 471 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 3: the bar soaps. And at the end of the day, 472 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 3: I can tell you you can do everything right, you 473 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,760 Speaker 3: can live your healthiest life, and bad things can still happen. 474 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 3: I see it happen all the time. So I don't 475 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 3: think that we need to go and live outside in 476 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 3: this bubble because you'll never be able to prevent anything bad. 477 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: You have to have that balance, but you should also 478 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 3: be mindful. At this point, we know the FDA has 479 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: had to recall so many sunscreens, and it has shown 480 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 3: over and over again that mineral based sunscreens are much 481 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 3: healthier when it comes to what you're absorbing in the skin. 482 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: I don't really see your reason not to be using 483 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,440 Speaker 3: mineral based sunscreens at this point. Yet, the most popular ones, 484 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 3: the most commonly bought, the ones with the most name recognition, 485 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: still tends to be the original sunscreens. And unfortunately this 486 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: is just the society we live in. It's more commercialized 487 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 3: and not necessarily. 488 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: We're brand loyalists. We find our brand. Oh that's so scary. 489 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 490 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 2: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. So I have a question for 491 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 2: you that is also another selfish question. So on my 492 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,880 Speaker 2: cancer journey, I went I actually would never have known 493 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 2: I had cancer. I went into my doctor's office just 494 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 2: for my annual check up. My physician's assistant was like, 495 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: when did this lump get here? And I was nursing, 496 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 2: and you know, when you're nursing, everything's weird. So I 497 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 2: was like, I don't, I really don't know. And she said, 498 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: I'm going to send you in for a mammogram in 499 00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 2: an ultrasound, And so I went in for the mammogram 500 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: and they said, it's totally clear. We are gonna do 501 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,399 Speaker 2: the ultrasound because they called for it, but it's going 502 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 2: to be clear. And then I went in for the 503 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 2: ultrasound and it was like the beginning of that appointment. 504 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 2: All of the nurses and everybody. 505 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 1: Like, so, how many kids do you have? How old 506 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: are they? 507 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,000 Speaker 2: And then they do the ultrasound and like how many 508 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 2: kids did you say you had? And I'm like, that's 509 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: such but they didn't say that they saw something, you know, 510 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 2: I'm like, what does that mean? And then obviously the diagnosis, 511 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: So is it more effective to have an ultrasound because 512 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 2: I mean, if I had not gone in for the ultrasound, 513 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 2: they on the mammogram said you're clear nothing. 514 00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 3: So it's funny because I've actually been a huge advocate. 515 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 3: So if anyone google's you'll find that I've helped pass 516 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 3: laws in Arizona, New Jersey, and New York which we 517 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 3: refer to as the Breast density Legislation. And because fifty 518 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: percent of women have very dense breast tissue, and unfortunately 519 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: on limography, when you eat your mammogram, dense breast tissue 520 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 3: decreases the sensitivity of us being able to find cancer. 521 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't mean that we can't. It's just a little 522 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 3: bit harder for us. And so, unfortunately, what was happening 523 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 3: was women would come, you know, whether they were dence 524 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 3: or not, they would come get their mammogram, they'd get 525 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: that clean bill of health, and they'd find a lump 526 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 3: maybe a week or two later, and they're like, ah, 527 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,080 Speaker 3: now I had a normal mammogram. It's fine, I'll wait 528 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: till next year. And then next year cancer has grown, 529 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 3: is maybe even spread. And so what you know, we 530 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: realized was if you add an ultrasound to the mammogram 531 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 3: in women with dense breasts, not get rid of the mammogram, 532 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 3: because a mamogram still picks up things the ultrasound does not. 533 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 3: But if you use them together, you're actually able to 534 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 3: pick up even more cancers if you have dense breast tissue. Well, 535 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 3: it makes logical sense to me. However, insurance companies didn't 536 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 3: want to pay for it. So the battle was not 537 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 3: necessarily convincing doctors, it was convincing the insurance agencies to 538 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 3: cover it. Ultimately, we've won. Breast sency legislation has passed 539 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 3: in all fifty states and is even at the federal 540 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,159 Speaker 3: level at this point. But I'll tell you it was 541 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 3: about a ten year effort to get that. So yes, 542 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 3: if a woman has dense breast issue, she absolutely should 543 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 3: be having an ultrasound. If she has a strong family 544 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 3: history or some other respector she may even benefit from 545 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 3: an MRI. But at the end of the day, I 546 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 3: don't care what your breast looks like on the mamogram. 547 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 3: Women know their breast best, so if there's an abnormality, 548 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 3: if something is bothering them, they need to be their 549 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,400 Speaker 3: own advocate because no one's going to care about you 550 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 3: more than you. 551 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: No, it's such a good piece of advice because I mean, 552 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 2: even in my journey and talking to different doctors, if 553 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 2: I had listened to what the first doctor planned, it 554 00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 2: would have been a totally different life outcome for me. 555 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,159 Speaker 2: And so I think that it's the best advice. You 556 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 2: are your own best advocate. And honestly, it was not 557 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: what I thought cancer felt like. So just I can't 558 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 2: express enough that if there's any type of change, even 559 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 2: if that's not what you think think it would be. 560 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 2: Because even when this woman was like, no, feel this 561 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 2: right here, I'm like, I thought cancer was so obvious. 562 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 2: I thought it was like you would touch it and 563 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 2: it would be like a marble under your skin and 564 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,919 Speaker 2: you would just go, Okay, I know it wasn't like that. 565 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 1: I know that sounds stupid, but it wasn't like that. 566 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 3: Honestly. It comes in all different shapes and sizes. Sometimes 567 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,160 Speaker 3: you feel something, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get a rash, 568 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: sometimes you have nipple discharge. Sometimes there's absolutely nothing there 569 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 3: and there's cancer everywhere. So everyone's a little bit different, 570 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 3: which is why it's best that you do rest exams. 571 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 3: You get to know your own body, and you absolutely 572 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,159 Speaker 3: should be getting your annual mammogram just so we can 573 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,199 Speaker 3: try and find things before you can even feel it. 574 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 2: Well. I appreciate that, and like I said, honestly, you will. 575 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you know, but in case somebody 576 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: hasn't told you lately. It means a lot to those 577 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 2: of us who have gone through it what you do, 578 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 2: so thank you, thank you so much. Thank you all 579 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 2: for joining me on the Tutor Dixon podcast for this episode, 580 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 2: and go to Tutordison podcast dot com. You can subscribe 581 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 2: right there, or check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts 582 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: or wherever you get your podcasts and join us the 583 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 2: next time on the Tutor Dixon Podcast, Have a blessed day,