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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: I just had some some car issues coming in this morning.

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Speaker 2: So car issues.

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Speaker 3: Hope she blew out a tire.

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Speaker 2: Oh, she's probably running on those baloney tires. I'm on

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Speaker 2: record now, I think, what did I say by game six?

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Speaker 2: He'll be in.

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Speaker 4: First there was a couple, Then it was a few.

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Speaker 4: Then it was a handful, and then it was a

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Speaker 4: half dozen.

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Speaker 3: Then there was several.

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Speaker 2: A handful could be up to five, several, three, There

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Speaker 5: Dozen, then it was a Baker's dozen five.

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Speaker 3: I felt bad about my path.

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Speaker 2: So because I forget who, I started.

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Speaker 3: Taking calls like in the middle of the good list,

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Speaker 3: you know, and emails shot how do we get mad?

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Speaker 3: And then he would kind of yell back at you

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Speaker 3: back that was great, right, right, And then he'd be

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Speaker 3: like kind of angry. He and Matt will go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, shoot, I just lost my hold on Hope. Please Cincinnati,

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Speaker 2: we have to do it in lane. There you go.

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Speaker 2: So let it be written.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday here at Julett Stadium, and we're mourning

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Speaker 2: the loss one in one now after one they let

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Speaker 2: one get away. That was that was too bad. They

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Speaker 2: let one get away against the Seahawks. But we have

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Speaker 2: a chance for redemption early Thursday night in New Jersey

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Speaker 2: against the Jets. Can get get back to above five hundred.

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Speaker 2: So it's Evan, it's Paul, it's me, it's Deuce, it's

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Speaker 2: Matt Nabooth and we'll be here for the next two

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Speaker 2: hours talking Patriots and everything else. It was a wild

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Speaker 2: and wacky week in the NFL. Lots of upsets right

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Speaker 2: up to.

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Speaker 3: Last night, and I didn't pick any of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, we'll get to that tomorrow because you've

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Speaker 2: been off your game. Yeah, we'll have to do picks

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Speaker 2: early this week because of the Patriots traveling on Thursday,

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Speaker 2: and we won't have a show on Thursday, but we

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Speaker 2: will have the pregame show. But guys, any opening thoughts

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Speaker 2: on the game. I know we had the postgame show,

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Speaker 2: but you know, Evan wasn't there.

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Speaker 3: That's why us off on Tuesdays.

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Speaker 2: Any opening thoughts now that we've listened to Gerard a

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Speaker 2: we thinking?

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Speaker 7: Well, I watched the film. That's also very important, right,

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Speaker 7: you got to come in watch the film, see whats happened.

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Speaker 7: I would start with the defensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: As much as we all want to harp on the

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Speaker 7: passing game and the offense, let's face it, we didn't

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Speaker 7: really expect them to be a great passing team to

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Speaker 7: begin with. I would also point out that league wide

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Speaker 7: passing is down. So when you have a team way yeah,

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Speaker 7: when you have a team like the Patriots.

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Speaker 3: Did you touchdown passes?

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Speaker 7: Passing yards right around one hundred and ninety a game

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Speaker 7: up in both quarterbacks had thrown for like one hundred

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Speaker 7: that's trending downward with passing yards, it's not that much

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Speaker 7: of a surprise to me. The bigger issue was defensively,

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Speaker 7: they got a little too cute, I thought in some

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Speaker 7: they were running with Bill, and I don't know what there.

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Speaker 7: What's their third and got to have it coverage? You know,

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Speaker 5: Some of the numbers. I like, I couldn't watch the film, Paul. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 5: the next Gen site was down for me. So I'm

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Speaker 3: I fill in the blank. I saw the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 5: I don't have your power of retention, like I watched

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I would say the two biggest things that they're

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Speaker 7: You know, it's definitely possible, and these are all small

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Speaker 7: But they've played a ton of Cover two and they've

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Speaker 7: like if you want to be that way, but zone

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Speaker 3: you think that their willingness to spend so much time

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Speaker 7: It's possible, and I hadn't really considered that very much.

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Speaker 3: What I what I saw again, if you go to

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Speaker 7: What I saw a lot of was was motioning, like

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Speaker 7: whatever reason, the Patriots would tip their hand a little

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Speaker 7: But I would say the main thing to me, it

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Speaker 3: So that's what I was And I always say, like,

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Speaker 2: Ready, it puts pressure on the defense. I mean, the

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Speaker 3: Well, I just think it allowed Gino Smith to know

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Speaker 3: I think the Patriots have really made their living being

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Speaker 5: I think on both sides of the ball, you saw

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Speaker 5: it hard for DeMarcus Covington, you know, allowing them to

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Speaker 3: So yeah, the only I'll take thee envision.

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Speaker 2: The only close one wasn't his folly. His arm got

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Speaker 3: Coat they made the three, they missed if.

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Speaker 2: They made it, they missed it because they were got

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Speaker 3: Back, and they missed it because they allowed a guy

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Speaker 3: I had someone within the organization say that could have

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Speaker 3: Look at it THEO I think they did. I agree

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Speaker 3: Does that make any sense? I think the Patriots almost

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Speaker 2: Well, I would say that they were better, But when

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it means you were better. You just you just

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Speaker 2: So when you drop the ball makes you better?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? They were they. I mean, these guys just told

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Speaker 2: But if you dropped the ball, you dropped the ball.

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Speaker 7: Right, he would have four hundred.

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Speaker 3: If you're better, you're more talented than the other team. Yes,

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Speaker 3: you did what you wanted to do more than they

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Speaker 2: Wanted to do. I think they wanted to catch the ball.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever see anybody so maddening as this?

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Speaker 3: Like, right, I know they wanted to make the field

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Speaker 3: goal to Fred, but the other guy blocked it. That's

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Speaker 3: a bad that's bad execution, exactly right. So like, what

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Speaker 3: more than the other team? Seattle? Seattle played the way

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Speaker 2: I think on offense, the Patriots played the way the

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Speaker 3: So do you think it's more likely to have a

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Speaker 2: Well, listen, they didn't do it. It's just a matter

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Speaker 2: Seattle's a better team on paper than the Patriots. Right,

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Speaker 2: they were a Sunday and I think they're a better team.

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Speaker 2: But the Patriots managed to do what they have to

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Speaker 2: give them credit that way, I take away credit for,

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Speaker 7: Yeah. I think there's a ton of truth to that.

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Speaker 7: I just the big picture is still the same for

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Speaker 2: Which is limited.

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Speaker 7: They're limited, right, I mean one team has three receivers

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Speaker 7: that you would take on this team in a heartpeat, sure,

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Speaker 7: and the other team's the Patriots. So it's like every

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Speaker 7: single game, and I feel like this is the same

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Speaker 7: you only throw for one hundred and fifty yards in

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Speaker 7: just not going to win very many games doing that.

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Speaker 2: No, Listen, there's no doubt I mean that you can't

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Speaker 2: argue that they go into the game at a disadvantage. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they go into and that's the way it's going to

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Speaker 4: They almost did it again but just didn't have the

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Speaker 3: That's that part. I do agree with Freddie, Like I

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Speaker 3: think I would have considered it, Wow, that's an unbelievable win.

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Speaker 3: Like they found a way to just hang around enough

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Speaker 3: didn't win the last five minutes. But I felt like,

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Speaker 3: and fred you said this to me during the game,

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Speaker 3: a field goal. You said, if they come out and

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Speaker 8: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think you were right. Yeah, right, I think you

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Speaker 3: were right. And what ended up happened. They don't execute

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Speaker 3: a fourth down play. They drove, I mean they drove

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Speaker 3: on and hanging on. Now, the Patriots deserve credit for

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Speaker 3: hanging on. Sure, but that's what I'm saying, Like, I

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Speaker 3: opportunity because I do think all they needed to to

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Speaker 3: See like the field goal is not that we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to argue, Saman I think the better team won

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Speaker 2: the game. I think I think they didn't necessarily play better. Seattle.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just look at every number and the factory

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Speaker 2: And the fact that the fact that they didn't play

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Speaker 2: I know that.

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Speaker 3: I'm giving the Patriots credit for being spunky and hanging

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Speaker 2: And that's what I wanted to say, is, you know,

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Speaker 3: And I would just say they're gonna have to figure

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Speaker 3: out ways we've all talked about. How what did you say?

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Speaker 3: It's like a really hard way to live, narrow path victory.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I wrote about in the notes this morning.

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Speaker 3: even look at it and say, like, how narrow the

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Speaker 3: I think in both games. I think the Patriots I'm talking.

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Speaker 2: About played really really well well as they can.

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Speaker 3: Just to show you. But they have to do that

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Speaker 3: really just to stay in the game. I understand because

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Speaker 3: one of these weeks, the reminder Stevenson fumble is not

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Speaker 3: that's going to turn it over getting one of these weeks,

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Speaker 3: Brissette's not going to avoid the seven sacks he probably

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, so go figure not only.

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Speaker 3: The narrow path, but they're basically flawless. You know, Like

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Speaker 3: You missed a field goal, you have a lot of

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Speaker 3: field go to get blocked. Ye, you you know, you

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Speaker 2: And it's not flawless when your quarterback's constantly.

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Speaker 3: Just like they weren't flawless in Cincinnati. But basically that's

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Speaker 3: you know, one and one, they probably should be one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but we need so we need to move to

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Speaker 7: Some of us have been saying, yeah, guard.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a good but he's probably miscast right now.

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Speaker 2: So we've got to break down this offense. And then

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Speaker 2: we've got to look at the injuries that are happening,

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Speaker 2: Like pretty much everybody on the offense right now is

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Speaker 9: Well.

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Speaker 3: I just think that they I think that they have

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Speaker 3: and Bentley you're a big part of that. Yeah, those

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And I would also say that him wearing the green

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Speaker 7: him in the flat. It was a bust. Maybe if

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Speaker 7: Bentley's out there in that situation, they know who you know,

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Speaker 7: they know where everybody's supposed to be at.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine Scott Peters is sleeping well right now

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Speaker 7: He has curious to see what thy nights.

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Speaker 2: No, I mean Scott Peters is now the guy that

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it, yes, on a on a mac micro.

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Speaker 2: I'm not blaming him. I'm just saying he's got a

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Speaker 7: He does. Yeah, But to me, it's they have a

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't think that that's why it's a tough job.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what he's saying. You pointing the finger

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Ultimately you know it's personnel. It's it's it's the

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's gonna get much better in.

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Speaker 3: These short weeks too. Like the injury report to me

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Speaker 3: know they didn't practice yesterday. They're going to do some

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00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:53,000
Speaker 3: kind of a walkthrough I think tonight. But the all

441
00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 3: five guys are on the injury report. I don't know

442
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,879
Speaker 3: if that means they're all questionable. Some of these guys

443
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,520
Speaker 3: have been on the injury report a and then they're

444
00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,600
Speaker 3: not listed at all in the game status. They're off

445
00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,119
Speaker 3: the report. So I don't know if if Andrews and

446
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 3: Robinson and that, if they were all really hurt, went went.

447
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,159
Speaker 3: I mean literally all five right, Yeah, Robinson, Andrews and

448
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,320
Speaker 3: so are all on the injury report right now, you know,

449
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 3: and those are the five guys you would have thought

450
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,280
Speaker 3: you wanted to start the season with. If they're all legitimately,

451
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: you know, have a chance to not play in the

452
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Speaker 3: game Thursday, I don't know what you do.

453
00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I mean Wallace probably gonna have to go in.

454
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,959
Speaker 5: I mean there's then that third tackle stuff is kind

455
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,399
Speaker 5: of out the window a little bit with that this

456
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:36,920
Speaker 5: week too.

457
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 7: A couple of times I think that might actually be

458
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,120
Speaker 7: a good thing with Wallace, to be honest, like, at

459
00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 7: this point, we might as well see if if what

460
00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,760
Speaker 7: he's got it can't be much worse than the tackle

461
00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,439
Speaker 7: play that they've gotten through two weeks. So maybe that

462
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Speaker 7: even if he comes back at right tackle like permanently

463
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Speaker 7: to kick on when who back inside to guard, Like

464
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Speaker 7: I would even take that at this point. So I

465
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 7: actually would maybe go to Wallace anyways on Thursday night

466
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,240
Speaker 7: and see what he's got. If he can hold his water,

467
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,880
Speaker 7: then maybe you start to reconfigure the line a little

468
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:10,640
Speaker 7: bit with him in the line.

469
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Speaker 2: So two things. Gerd Mayo's wish to push the ball

470
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Speaker 2: down the field, is that just a wish at this

471
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Speaker 2: point because or you know, and with all these injuries

472
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: and everything else, I mean, you can forget about that.

473
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Speaker 2: Or is it something that maybe they can try to

474
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Speaker 2: do more? And with the current state of things, are

475
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Speaker 2: we happy that Drake may isn't playing.

476
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,439
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm happy when I see Persett. I mean

477
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 5: I just saw it again. Brissette like got hit and

478
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,159
Speaker 5: like grabbed his knee for a second on one of

479
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:42,440
Speaker 5: those sacks.

480
00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:43,919
Speaker 4: That he got everything.

481
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,359
Speaker 5: Every time every time I see him take a hit,

482
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Speaker 5: I'm glad it's not I'm just glad it's not Drake Man.

483
00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 5: And so he goes in there, you know, And that's fine.

484
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:55,919
Speaker 5: If you want to pound the drum for him to

485
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:57,600
Speaker 5: be in there, that's fine. But I just don't want

486
00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,400
Speaker 5: to hear those people being like, oh, it's a terrible game.

487
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,919
Speaker 3: I don't care like the protection at all. I just

488
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: do only care about Drake May if he's ready to me. Like,

489
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,959
Speaker 3: like Caleb Williams, I watched the game Sunday and I liked.

490
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,240
Speaker 3: I liked a lot of what I saw from Caleb Williams.

491
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 3: Did he play great? Nope? No, they only score with

492
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: thirteen points now with Dunzey dropped a touchdown on him.

493
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 3: That's four big points that they lost in a very

494
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 3: close game. But I think there's a lot of I

495
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 3: say this all the time. I think there's a lot

496
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Speaker 3: of value in what Caleb Williams is going through right now,

497
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Speaker 3: but it's learning how to deal with it.

498
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Speaker 2: In the current state of the offense. I mean, can

499
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Speaker 2: Drake May do any better?

500
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Speaker 3: And no, I have no idea.

501
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 2: No, But I'm just but that's what we have to surmise.

502
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 2: I mean, like, is it worth putting him in in

503
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,000
Speaker 2: the current state of the art.

504
00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,280
Speaker 3: I'm just saying I'm not suggesting that I'm mad that

505
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: he's not playing. No, I don't have I don't have

506
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,119
Speaker 3: the information that and the coaches do.

507
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:48,320
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying that has anything you've seen now

508
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:51,160
Speaker 2: Because I'm a I'm a play May guy. I want

509
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 2: him to play, and I'm the.

510
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: Week six I said by Mike Handful.

511
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,399
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, I don't have the control of I don't have

512
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,919
Speaker 2: the decision. I'm a play meg. I want him out there.

513
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 2: But has anything we've seen kind of for me, for

514
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: guys like us and you know, not me, it's probably

515
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 2: just as well he's not out there.

516
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 3: Not not for me. But I understand why people feel

517
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,080
Speaker 3: that way. I think quarterbacks get hit.

518
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,240
Speaker 5: So how do we tie the Bryce Young of it

519
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 5: all into this?

520
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 4: I mean, a guy who played all last year a.

521
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: Terrible team, might he just may not be just not

522
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: good enough. I was wrong. Yeah, I missed everybody else.

523
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,560
Speaker 3: I just think he's too small and he can't he

524
00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 3: can't handle the physicality of the league. That's just my

525
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 3: And he's just.

526
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 2: Not like Kyler Murray's small, but he can move. He

527
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: moves around and at the road run and maybe just.

528
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, and he's also been hurt.

529
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:42,200
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true. Yeah.

530
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Speaker 7: I think the back and forth with Drake May is

531
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Speaker 7: tough because he's a much more aggressive downfield passer than Jacoby,

532
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 7: So if he goes into the game, they are not

533
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 7: going to have issues throwing the ball down the field.

534
00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,080
Speaker 7: They just won't because he will throw it down the field.

535
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Speaker 2: But if he what if he's undersea, he.

536
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,800
Speaker 7: Will throw it down the field. He will find ways

537
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 7: to throw the vote. It's it's been his most since

538
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,320
Speaker 7: high school. So I can't imagine that he's going to

539
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 7: get into the game and just all of a sudden

540
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 7: turn into Alex Smith and start thinking and dunking the

541
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 7: ball down the field everywhere.

542
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: You know, you look at that game on Sunday with

543
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: Brissett in so many times he drops back that backfoot

544
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: plants and there's guys coming at him from both sides.

545
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,439
Speaker 3: Nowhere to go under a lot of pressure. I mean,

546
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 3: then we've all seen the numbers out there. The pressure

547
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 3: rates are they're among the worst in the league.

548
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 7: They're second worst. And pressure rate they're dead last. And

549
00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 7: pass block win rate like they're the worst pass PARTECI.

550
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240
Speaker 2: So are we putting our new quarterback in a position

551
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 2: to succeed if you throw him out there under these conditions,

552
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 2: That's the question they have to ask.

553
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 3: I think, right well, I just think it all is

554
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 3: up to Drake May When when they feel like mentally

555
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 3: he's ready to play, then he's got to go out

556
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 3: and play football because that's going to happen sometimes.

557
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that there's the downside.

558
00:24:57,520 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 3: But if it happens all the time, but it's gonna happen,

559
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,040
Speaker 3: I mean I I yeah, Okay.

560
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 7: To Jacoby's credit, he hasn't turned.

561
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Speaker 3: The ball over.

562
00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 5: Quiet, No I am, I will. I just I feel

563
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 5: like I'm exactly where I've been the whole time. I

564
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 5: feel like a few games in and now I've seen

565
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 5: what I want to see. And you know, I after

566
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,960
Speaker 5: six games, that's where I feel like I'm going to be.

567
00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 5: I I like getting the experience. I like seeing that

568
00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 5: there's a semblance of a running game there. So that's

569
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 5: something that you know, makes you feel better about it.

570
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 5: But Paul's I think one hundred percent right. At some point,

571
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 5: you got to play football. If he goes this whole

572
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 5: year without playing, it's a last year.

573
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,800
Speaker 3: And if they feel like, you know, he doesn't know

574
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: what he's doing. We're doing this stuff and I'm not

575
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: suggesting just throw him out there. What's the worst that

576
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 3: can happen. There's a lot of bad stuff that can happen,

577
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: you know, like mentally, he can get shot and that

578
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 3: those kinds of things once you start taking the hits

579
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,880
Speaker 3: and stuff. But if they feel like he's out there

580
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 3: and he he's on it, and he's understanding the concepts

581
00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 3: of what they're doing and recognizing where the pressure is

582
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 3: coming from, I think there's some there's some benefit to that.

583
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 7: There's just a combination right now to me of they're

584
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 7: so limited with their outside receivers and the talent that

585
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 7: they have at that position. I am fully ignoring through

586
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 7: what's on screen right now, there's such a limitation that

587
00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 7: they have from an outside receiver standpoint that their only

588
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 7: way to push the ball down the field is to

589
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 7: scheme it up and to find ways of play action

590
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 7: and creativity and things like that to get guys open

591
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 7: down the field. But the problem is is that does

592
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 7: take time.

593
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 2: So if you let's just say, you know, they're not

594
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 2: gonna put May in for the Jets, but let's just

595
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: say one of these games coming up, they decide, Okay,

596
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 2: it's May week, we're gonna we're gonna get Drake May

597
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: ready for this next game. He's taken all the snaps.

598
00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: How different of an offense are they practicing or is

599
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: it the same?

600
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Speaker 7: I don't know. I would assume it's the same question.

601
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 7: I would assume it's the same. Now, is it more gun?

602
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 7: Is it more unc I don't.

603
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,959
Speaker 2: Know how is it possible. Is it gonna be different?

604
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 7: I don't think so.

605
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 2: And is that difference gonna make a difference?

606
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 3: Do you think it should be different?

607
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,360
Speaker 5: I think it should be different. I mean I think

608
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 5: I gotta tailor it to home. You gotta tailor it

609
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 5: a little bit.

610
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 4: I mean it does. You're not gonna go, oh, here's

611
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 4: the new playbook.

612
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: But I didn't draft a third overall pick to turn

613
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: around and hand the ball to Ormandra Stevenson twenty five

614
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: times a game. Yeah, I can get Tracobe Prissett to

615
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 3: do that for the rest of the season. If I

616
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 3: want to run for one hundred and seventy five yards

617
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 3: every week, I can do that. I don't. I don't

618
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 3: need a third overall pick to do that.

619
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 5: And by the same token, you're not installing a playbook

620
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 5: this summer that well, this is our Jacoby Pressett, Like

621
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 5: you know, May is gonna come in at some point.

622
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 5: At some point, this is going to be the offense.

623
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 5: So I would hope when they're cooking things up in

624
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 5: the summer, they're saying these are placed for Drake May,

625
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 5: and we'll let Jacoby Pressett, you know, like I hope

626
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 5: it's already in place for home so too.

627
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:44,680
Speaker 3: He's the future, right, Can.

628
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,400
Speaker 7: I just worry about them being such a gun heavy team.

629
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 7: The gun gun teams that are good gun teams have

630
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 7: a ton of talent on the outside at receiver, like

631
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 7: you're talking about teams like the Bengals and the Eagles

632
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 7: and like these teams that have these superstar receivers. If

633
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 7: you gun all the time, like there's no play action gun,

634
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,600
Speaker 7: there's no there's no window dressing for the defense. It's

635
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,400
Speaker 7: we're gonna line up and we're gonna just play. Now.

636
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 7: If you have a great quarterback like you can do that.

637
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 7: But it just it puts a lot of the game

638
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 7: on May's shoulders.

639
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 2: What if what if you do like pistol and it's

640
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: more rpo based.

641
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 7: I love a pistol personally, I haven't seen them do that,

642
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 7: Like their offense from the pistol would be under center,

643
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 7: Like they would just say, well at that point, like

644
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 7: let's just put the quarterback under center. So I don't know,

645
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 7: it just that's what I worry about. In terms of

646
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 7: uh made being different, like the offense being structured differently.

647
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 7: Is that I don't know if they have the receivers

648
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 7: to run a gun offense and or the line to

649
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 7: be honest with you either.

650
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 3: So ka, I want to ask you three a question

651
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 3: because there's something that came out of the game. Would

652
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 3: Brisset I think mentioned that he felt like they had

653
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 3: tells when they were gonna get ready to take shots.

654
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 3: What'd you guys make of that? I asked the question,

655
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: So it was I didn't even know that.

656
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 7: Yeah, because you know, watching from up top, it just

657
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 7: felt like they played a lot of too deep safety

658
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Speaker 7: shells whenever the Patriots tried to dial up play action

659
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Speaker 7: down the field, and he agreed. He said that it

660
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 7: felt like they had a beat on whether it was

661
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 7: sequencing personnel like I don't I don't know. I didn't

662
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Speaker 7: like see anything obvious on on the tape with it.

663
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Speaker 7: It's probably a vampelt question, honestly, but it felt like

664
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Speaker 7: watching live and watching it back, that they did try

665
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Speaker 7: to dial up some shots, especially off play action, and

666
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Speaker 7: the couple of times that they did it was too

667
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 7: high and if you're not going to throw it to

668
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Speaker 7: the deep part of the field and those structures it's

669
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Speaker 7: just not going to be there.

670
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Speaker 3: Wow, early, I.

671
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Speaker 5: Mean, like, these are the little pieces that are concerning,

672
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Speaker 5: because that's you know, personally, I didn't have a huge

673
00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 5: problem with Alex Vampell, you know, and that's maybe a

674
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Speaker 5: personal issue where I kind of look at everyone saying,

675
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 5: this is a guy who's been around forever, Like I

676
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 5: kind of like that. I kind of feel for a

677
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 5: guy who's been in a position for a while and

678
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Speaker 5: maybe has never gotten a shot, and so initially out

679
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 5: of the gate, I felt like, maybe this is a

680
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Speaker 5: guy who's been waiting for his opportunity to come along,

681
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Speaker 5: and he's gonna make the most of it. And he's been,

682
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Speaker 5: you know, obviously in a number of systems, and he

683
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,960
Speaker 5: has a lot of knowledge to pull from.

684
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Speaker 4: This was a little bit jarring to me, just.

685
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Speaker 5: Because the implication is that you're not mixing it up enough.

686
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 5: You don't have enough clubs in the bag to keep

687
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 5: defensive coordinators on their heels. And certainly Mike McDonald is

688
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 5: as good as it gets in the NFL right now.

689
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Speaker 5: But it did it did they made I mean, what

690
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 5: what's the stat three passes to wide receivers. I mean,

691
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 5: they just they had no passing games.

692
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,400
Speaker 3: In two games. They have four wide receivers I believe

693
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: that have caught passes. They have eleven catches for eighty

694
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 3: five yards in two full games. That's the entirety of

695
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: your wide receiver.

696
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 4: Behalf me.

697
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 2: We're taking the game fifty years. I mean more.

698
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 7: It's just so tough when you can't block anybody, Like

699
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 7: I would say, this is different than what we've seen

700
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 7: over the lot the last few years. Has been a trainer.

701
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 5: That's what I've been wondering because I'm like I do,

702
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 5: I've forgotten what good offense looks like.

703
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 7: The production might not be in the passing game especially,

704
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 7: might not be like worlds different. But I just feel

705
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 7: like in the last couple of years, a the turnover

706
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 7: differential is massive. I mean, Dishoby Brissett hasn't turned the

707
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 7: ball over by some miracle, hasn't turned the ball over

708
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 7: yet crazy, And that's been big that they haven't had

709
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 7: those catastrophic plays, like we haven't had throw across the

710
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 7: field pick sixes like in Dallas last year by Mac Jones,

711
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 7: Like that stuff isn't happening, and they're running the ball well,

712
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 7: so they have some semblance of like a foundation. Offensively,

713
00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 7: they they're just very one dimensional. Some of the plays

714
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Speaker 7: that they drew up tod to go deep. It just

715
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Speaker 7: the blocking is just not there.

716
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Speaker 3: The funny too, because I agree, like the turnovers have

717
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 3: been the biggest difference. They haven't turned it over and

718
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 3: last year I think they turned it over three times

719
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Speaker 3: in the first two games. Or you know, I had

720
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 3: three interceptions anyway, thirty six points through two games. You

721
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 3: know how many they had last year through.

722
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Speaker 2: Two thirty seven, thirty five, thirty five.

723
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Speaker 3: It's the same. It just looks different. Yeah, you know.

724
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 3: Part of it, you know, to me is I can

725
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 3: look and I can watch the games. I think Jacoby

726
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: Brissett's played better than Mac Jones because of the turnovers.

727
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: Well yeah, you're right, but but production wise he's not.

728
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: It did look it does look the same as last year.

729
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: The question is will it look the same further into

730
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: the season, because if Patriots offense collapsed, I mean it,

731
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 2: it just got worse. It devolved as the season.

732
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Speaker 3: It was thirty seven, I skipped the game, no, thirty yeah, whatever.

733
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Speaker 2: It devolved, It got worse as the season went on

734
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Speaker 2: because because Mac Jones lost it.

735
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Speaker 3: I mean, they're averaging eighteen points a game right now.

736
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: I think they averaged fifteen last year, So it's a

737
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 3: field goal better if you want to go for the

738
00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 3: entirety of this. But right, but like the first week,

739
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: the second quarter of the first game of the season

740
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 3: was the best of the offense looked the entire day. Yeah,

741
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 3: if you ask me, Yeah, those two touchdown drives that

742
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 3: they had against the Eagles that got them from a

743
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 3: sixteen to nothing deficit right back in the game at

744
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: sixteen fourteen. Never got any better than that the rest

745
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Speaker 3: of the year.

746
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Speaker 5: I just think you got to get healthy on the

747
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 5: line and just let the same five go out there consistently.

748
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 5: I mean, as much as it's been terrible, it's been

749
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: a bunch of different guys having to go in and rotate.

750
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 5: And now we're sitting on the precipice of another you know,

751
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: huge question week of who's going to be able to

752
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,240
Speaker 5: go Like at the very least, I don't know like

753
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: if we're gonna have ever have the personnel this season.

754
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 5: But the only hope you got is that you know,

755
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 5: Caden Wallace emerges the right tackle maybe and when you

756
00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 5: slides back inside, and they're able to be a huge.

757
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 2: Test because the Jets are gonna bring it.

758
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 7: Probably one of the biggest mismatches in the NFL this

759
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 7: week is the Jets defensive front against the Patriots offensive line.

760
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 7: It might be the number one.

761
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Speaker 3: They do catch a break with, you know, the Jets.

762
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Speaker 3: You know, the Jets can't get after the a a

763
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 3: little bit, but their two best guys doing it are

764
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Speaker 3: not going to be playing obviously. Jermaine Johnson's out for

765
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: the year with a torn achilles and Reddick is not

766
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Speaker 3: you know, just suddenly what's hold.

767
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Speaker 2: Through.

768
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Speaker 3: They still have Quinn Williams, who is one of the

769
00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:19,479
Speaker 3: best at what he does, and I think they also

770
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Speaker 3: could be without C. J. Mosley.

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Speaker 4: You know, just saw something sounds like he's okay.

772
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Speaker 3: Sala says that he, you know, he's got a shot,

773
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Speaker 3: But like the rich Semines of the world, I think

774
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Speaker 3: that he's not gonna play Thursday novels. Maybe he'll try

775
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 3: to get it out all right, well, as he missed

776
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 3: most of the Titans game as expected.

777
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Speaker 2: A lot of you have something to say, whether it's

778
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Speaker 2: via email, at web radio at patries dot com or

779
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: on the tp X hotline. Eight five five Pats five hundred.

780
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Speaker 2: Let's get to the tp X hotline. We'll start with

781
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 2: Patty and Agawam. What's up, Patty, Hey, hey, hey, just

782
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Speaker 2: good up about.

783
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Speaker 10: The loss, like a lot of what you guys were

784
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 10: talking about this morning. When I woke up and I

785
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 10: went online and I saw that Juan Bentley was possibly

786
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 10: done for the year, that got me really upset because

787
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 10: I don't know how you guys feel about him, but

788
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,800
Speaker 10: he's kind of been that steadying presence on our defense

789
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 10: for the last few years. I know, his first couple

790
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 10: of years he was a little bit hurt, but then

791
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 10: he's sort of like got himself together. And I'm not

792
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 10: saying this to be mean, but he's kind of like

793
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 10: a forgettable and that like you kind of forget that

794
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,440
Speaker 10: he's here because he's he's so steady, he's always in

795
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 10: the right place, he always does the right thing, and

796
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 10: he's he's kind of expanded his game in coverage. You know,

797
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 10: they've blitzed him a little bit. And not to mention

798
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,959
Speaker 10: this leadership, I think it's going to be a big,

799
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 10: big loss. Hopefully not that big of a loss, but

800
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Speaker 10: I just wanted to see what you guys thought about

801
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 10: that and I'll take it off there.

802
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: Thanks, thanks Patty. Yeah, no, I agree. He's playing great.

803
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,279
Speaker 2: He's the captain out there. He had the green dot.

804
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 2: I think he's got and better every year that he's

805
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 2: been a pro. So this this is, this hurts.

806
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,279
Speaker 5: He's just a huge attitude part of the defense too,

807
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,239
Speaker 5: which you know, is a leader. He's been around for

808
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 5: a while, I mean last couple of years. He's playing

809
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 5: a lot more on third down. They're using them, you know,

810
00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 5: in select situations to blitz. There's no one like him

811
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 5: on the roster. And you can say ray Kwan McMillan,

812
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 5: if you got to lean on him, we'll see if

813
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 5: he's able to stay healthy. But he doesn't have that aggressive, downhill,

814
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 5: hard hitting kind of edge. He's more, you know, more

815
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 5: a little bit. I'd say Tavaya is closer to that.

816
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 5: But just in terms of the green dot, like I

817
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 5: don't trust Kyle Duggar, I don't trust him, like he

818
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 5: has not earned my trust, especially in coverage and especially

819
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 5: not getting everybody on the same page, which you know,

820
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 5: I wonder without mccordy, how is that going to go getting?

821
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 3: You know, we know how.

822
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 5: Important communication is for this defense, and we've seen some

823
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: coverages getting blown, some guys not being on the same page,

824
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: losing one of your best communicators in the middle.

825
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 4: Of the defense. It's it's no boy, it's yeah good.

826
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 7: He's a huge part of how they structure it too,

827
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 7: because he's basically like another defensive line in the run game,

828
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 7: the way that he can plug gaps so they can

829
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 7: get away with maybe being a man short in the

830
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 7: box sometimes because they have him over the bubbles and

831
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 7: he's the one that that is able to fill those gaps.

832
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 7: So he's a really big part of just how they

833
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 7: kind of structure the entire defense from from top to bottom.

834
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 7: So it's a it's a huge loss. That might not

835
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 7: be a household name around the league necessarily, but when

836
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 7: you watch the ball knowers, they know the way the.

837
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 5: The only real true mic on the roster, like the

838
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 5: other guys are all not quite the same.

839
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 3: I think it's a significant loss.

840
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 2: I do.

841
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: I think he's a guy that does a lot of

842
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: different things for them, and you know, I think ray

843
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 3: Kwan McMillan probably can be, you know, a presence in

844
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: the run game. You know, he's a physical guy. But

845
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to give you everything that

846
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: Bently did from a mental standpoint, from a leadership standpoint.

847
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Daniel is in Sacramento. What's up, Daniel.

848
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Speaker 9: And gentlemen?

849
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Speaker 2: All right?

850
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 8: So I wanted to ask because I know you guys

851
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 8: are talking about when the joint practice with the Eagles

852
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 8: and how much their defensive front just destroyed our really

853
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 8: bad offensive line. Which I think the offensive line has

854
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 8: been steady, but obviously pretty bad, not up to you know, standard.

855
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 8: So now that we're facing the Jets front, would you

856
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 8: say that's it's gonna be pretty hectic like that, like

857
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 8: how you guys are saying how it would just dominates

858
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 8: just at the front of the line where Wheremandre wasn't

859
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 8: able to run, quarterbacks had no time. Remember you guys

860
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 8: are saying the quarterbacks got sacked a bunch of.

861
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: Times, but they might be able to run. They've been

862
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: able to run in the two games. But I would

863
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 3: expect more of the same that you've seen. Well, think

864
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Speaker 3: about pressure on the quarter I.

865
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Speaker 2: Think about it. If you're a defensive coordinator, what are

866
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 2: you afraid of in the passing game? So you're gonna

867
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: you're going to load the box, and you're going to

868
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 2: put pressure on Jacoby every you know, every time he

869
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: drops back. You're gonna test that until Jacoby burns them,

870
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Speaker 2: and you're not gonna care. Go ahead, pass the ball.

871
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Speaker 7: You know, yeah, he's faced. Uh, Jacoby has faced the

872
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 7: second most stacked boxes in the league through two weeks.

873
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 7: So it's no secret to these defenses that they can't

874
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 7: throw the ball on the outside. It's really it's the

875
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,680
Speaker 7: run game. And maybe it's Hunter Henry, you know, and

876
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 7: that's you talk about guys who worries you. They're circling

877
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 7: their run game and they're circling Henry. So what's gonna

878
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 7: happen when they start taking away Hunter Henry in the

879
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,359
Speaker 7: passing game? Then then what you know? He's he's really

880
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 7: been the only guy that Jacoby trusts. From any story.

881
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 2: You have to you have to earn you have to

882
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 2: earn their fear. You have to like make them worry

883
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 2: about something they you know, right now based on the tape,

884
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: they really don't have to worry about the Patriots passing game.

885
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: Well, this is where the season starts.

886
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 5: Like you know, anybody can come the first couple of

887
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 5: weeks and you know, you get lucky maybe, or a

888
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 5: game just unfold specifically and maybe you win. But now

889
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 5: you're putting stuff on tape. Teams are starting to realize

890
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:10,880
Speaker 5: what you actually can do. They can put the Patriots

891
00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 5: offensive line right under the microscope. They know what Stevenson

892
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 5: is capable of. And now it's about how do we adjust,

893
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 5: how do we find success from this, because you're not

894
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 5: going to continue to win with this formula because teams

895
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 5: are just more and we're going to try to clamp up.

896
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: But what I hope they don't do is revert back

897
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 2: to what they've done in past years with those behind

898
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: the line of scrimmage passing, that passing game. I hate that.

899
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 2: I hate that.

900
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 3: I would get ready for some of that with Tomrio

901
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,600
Speaker 3: Douglas on Thursday. I'm primed and ready for an overc

902
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 3: over compensation, and an over correction. We're going to get

903
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 3: the ball in his hands early. I don't mind doing that.

904
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,880
Speaker 2: On a quick slant, but none of that flat pass

905
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 2: behind the line where they've got everybody in the box anyway,

906
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: so it's so easy to defend. I Oh wow.

907
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: Freddy not a big fan of the screen game. Oh,

908
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: let's you speed, you know, let's find something.

909
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,840
Speaker 2: To Mario Douglas. You don't think he's fast.

910
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: I think he's quick, shifty.

911
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 2: He's really can get open fast. Let's put it that way.

912
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 2: That's all I'm looking to take your word for it.

913
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:10,840
Speaker 2: I just want to see him get open fast.

914
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 7: I have some theories on Pop Douglas. I have some

915
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 7: theories maybe.

916
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 5: Getting guarded by what was that Jacoby can't throw the

917
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 5: little guys in camp he was like, I got to

918
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 5: get used to throwing this small guy.

919
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 7: I mean Jacoby said that. I don't think Jacoby likes

920
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 7: throwing them the ball.

921
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 3: It's interesting because it just does have a good You

922
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 3: guys learn me stuff sometimes, learned me stuff. I never

923
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 3: thought of it. You never thought like he doesn't like

924
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 3: throwing a small guy.

925
00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 5: What do you what do you guys make also too

926
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: of like in training camp, them saying we want to

927
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 5: be a big screen team, and what do they run?

928
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 5: Like three four screens through two games like it hasn't even.

929
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,240
Speaker 3: Been They've gotten playing with the exception of the one Henry,

930
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 3: they've all gotten blown up. Yeah, and there forgetting the

931
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: ones that pass, I think people are forgetting the ones

932
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 3: that Jacoby throws at Stevenson's feet on purpose to avoid

933
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: a loss. Like I heard a lot of people, what

934
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 3: happened to the screens?

935
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 2: What happens?

936
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: Did you watch the game? Did you see what happens

937
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: when they tried to do it?

938
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 4: Just can't.

939
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 7: You're also just a team that all the issues that

940
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 7: we've talked about. Every defense in the world knows they're

941
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 7: going to try to throw screens like it's, you know,

942
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 7: to Freend's point about you know, the quick game or whatever,

943
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 7: like Okay, that's that's the big fixes. You guys are

944
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 7: gonna throw screens in quick game like shocker, like you know.

945
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 7: So I just feel like the screens are predictable for

946
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,840
Speaker 7: this team right now because they don't have a downfield

947
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 7: passing game. So what else are they gonna do?

948
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

949
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

950
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: And the other the other part that I think is

951
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 3: making it difficult is I think I saw a stat

952
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 3: that's been blitzed the least amount of times in football, Yeah,

953
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 3: which you know for once, I got one, right, Yeah.

954
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: I don't know why you would blitz them. I don't

955
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 3: know why you would blitz the Patriots. You don't crush

956
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: it with four you don't have to. And I think

957
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,879
Speaker 3: that makes it tougher for you know, an average group

958
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,319
Speaker 3: of receivers to deal with with coverage. Now you have

959
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 3: extra bodies. My that's my to Mario Douglas theory is

960
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,239
Speaker 3: I think ke he's seeing a higher quality quality of

961
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 3: cornerback than he did last year because I think he's

962
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 3: the guy now. I can't tell you that he's gotten

963
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: covered by Riek Woolen and Devon Weatherspoon on every play.

964
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 3: I didn't charge every play, every personnel group, but my

965
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 3: feeling is the opposing defense is going to look at

966
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: that receiver group and say, Douglas might be able to

967
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 3: burn us for a thirty yard chunk here or there

968
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,040
Speaker 3: if we don't watch it. Thornton might be able to

969
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,759
Speaker 3: get behind us. If we don't watch it. We're gonna

970
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,760
Speaker 3: make sure that doesn't happen.

971
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 7: Just the part that kind of just grinded my gears

972
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 7: about the whole thing. So they run that reverse, they

973
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 7: give it would to probably the slowest receiver on the

974
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 7: team in Jalen Polk, And it's like Taekwon and Pop

975
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 7: Douglas are just sitting on the bench and we all

976
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 7: saw it live from the press box. I felt like

977
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 7: it had a chance if it had hit faster. The

978
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 7: Polk's credit actually hit like over nineteen miles an hour.

979
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 7: He was kind of.

980
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 3: Moving, maybe the worst thing that's ever happened, But he wasn't.

981
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,359
Speaker 7: He doesn't have that that second gear right, so he

982
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 7: when he's turning the corner, it just it took a

983
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 7: long time. It took a long time for him to

984
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 7: get there. If that's you know in uh week one,

985
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 7: you know Xavier worthy is is turning the corner and

986
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 7: it's a touchdown. You know, like those are the differences,

987
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 7: Like why the usage of the personnel there just was

988
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 7: a little head scratching, like why isn't that Thornton?

989
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 2: Uh oh, you were surprised they used him. They were

990
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: hoping the other team would be too.

991
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess, uh not do.

992
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: Is in Cambridge? What's up?

993
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: Not?

994
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 11: Do not do.

995
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Know from Cambridge?

996
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,239
Speaker 4: No, not going to do that?

997
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 3: Call all right, don't no, Okay, he'll call back. He wasn't.

998
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 3: You must have.

999
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: We got a lot of a lot of emails. You

1000
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: wouldn't believe the amount of emails that we're getting.

1001
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 3: Maybe you should read.

1002
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 2: It's like it's like a ticker at the stock exchange.

1003
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,399
Speaker 4: It's just it's how do we fix this passing game.

1004
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good question, and it's not an easy fix,

1005
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,800
Speaker 3: just because the personnel issues are a parent.

1006
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:10,399
Speaker 2: Yeah. Thatt is in Santa Cruz writing in at web

1007
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 2: radio at Patriots dot com. He says, what a treat

1008
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 2: this season has been. I thought we were going to

1009
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: be completely pathetic and win maybe five games. We still might,

1010
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 2: I know, however, we are competitive. You guys can come

1011
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: on the radio and talk about what we could have

1012
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 2: done to win the game and where we need to improve.

1013
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,880
Speaker 2: It's just like a normal middle team. I love it.

1014
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: I thought we were going to talk about how awful

1015
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: we are and keep thinking about three or four years

1016
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: down the future all year. But guess what, We're a

1017
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 2: meddling team. I think he means middle a team just

1018
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: like everybody else, and we're competitive, so he's happy about that.

1019
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Just like the year before. There's a big difference that's

1020
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 3: changing everybody's mindset. No, but because Belichick left and there

1021
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 3: was no hope going into the season when Belichi was here,

1022
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,319
Speaker 3: people like Connor or from Sports Illustrated predicted that they

1023
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: would win the division last year because of Belichick. He's

1024
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 3: not here, and people said that's it. We have no

1025
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,800
Speaker 3: hope going into the season. Otherwise, you're playing competitive games

1026
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,399
Speaker 3: just like you did the last two years, with very

1027
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 3: little offense to get into a fight with. And it's

1028
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 3: really not all that different. They're competitive as hell. They

1029
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: are competitive. Not so far they are.

1030
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,280
Speaker 7: I mean I understand, like we it's an eye test

1031
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:37,720
Speaker 7: thing like they they're not scoring, you know, zero points

1032
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:43,359
Speaker 7: at home against the Chargers, six points in Germany and.

1033
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,439
Speaker 3: To lose the game again. We'll see. There's a long

1034
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,759
Speaker 3: season there. Games scoring what they scored last year through

1035
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 3: two games, we'll see if that continues.

1036
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got it. I got A different

1037
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: question is if if May doesn't come in and they

1038
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: continue with Brissett, are they so predictable on paper that

1039
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: do they do revert to what they did last year

1040
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 2: where they're scoring six points a game or seven points

1041
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 2: a game or can the offense get better.

1042
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 7: I'm not sure about about the actual points per game

1043
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 7: bottom line, But they're not going to turn the ball

1044
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:25,760
Speaker 7: over as much with this group.

1045
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 3: Because they don't throw the ball.

1046
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:28,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1047
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 3: I just don't think many times you can throw interceptions.

1048
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 3: I mean, that's listen.

1049
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 2: If not turning the ball over means that they're averaging

1050
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:40,439
Speaker 2: eighteen to twenty two points a game. Oh that's that's

1051
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,320
Speaker 2: better than last.

1052
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 3: Twenty two they average twenty two points a game. I'm

1053
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 3: in Yeah, there's a big difference there, big difference.

1054
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 7: There's just a huge difference to me about they had

1055
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:53,239
Speaker 7: nothing last year offensively like their run game. Right now

1056
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 7: they have a legit running game, do they they really

1057
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,520
Speaker 7: do it? Maybe teams will adjust to it and they'll

1058
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:00,799
Speaker 7: put eight guys in the box and and they'll have

1059
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 7: issues both teams.

1060
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: I wouldn't I say, you're.

1061
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 2: Right Evan right now, but I guarantee if that's all

1062
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: they have in week twelve, we're not scoring points.

1063
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 3: But if you can get to twenty two, now that's

1064
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:13,280
Speaker 3: a whole touchdown different.

1065
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,400
Speaker 2: But the only way, the only way you get to

1066
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 2: twenty two is if you would start to be more balanced.

1067
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,359
Speaker 7: You have to you know, it's the play action. If

1068
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 7: they they have to find a way to block play

1069
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 7: action to get it off the running game. Because you

1070
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 7: go into these games and you run for one hundred

1071
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 7: and eighty yards and you can't hit a single play

1072
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 7: action play down the field. It just does. It doesn't

1073
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 7: compute to me that those two things can exist at

1074
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 7: the same time. So whether it's protection or whatever design,

1075
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 7: play design, whatever the case may be, if they can

1076
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 7: find a way. They're not going to be a good

1077
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 7: drop back pass team. They're just not. They're not going

1078
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 7: to block people. They don't have the talent at quarterback, like,

1079
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,439
Speaker 7: they're not going to drop back pass at a high level.

1080
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 7: But if they can scheme up play action off this

1081
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 7: running game, then maybe they can get to twenty points

1082
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 7: a game. You know, I think that is possible. I mean,

1083
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 7: Joe Flacco did it off his couch for the Browns

1084
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 7: last year and took them to the playoffs with the

1085
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 7: same scheme. So like, it's not like it needs to

1086
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 7: be you know, Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers out there

1087
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 7: for them to throw the ball in this offense. They

1088
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 7: just for some reason, they can't get the play action going.

1089
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 2: Tom and Edinburgh remember that, I do. Yeah, disappointing loss

1090
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: considering the team made me believe that it was possible

1091
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: to win. Before Paul says it's fantasy land, which it is,

1092
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,479
Speaker 2: Please entertain my thoughts. The Chargers used their first round

1093
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 2: pick on Joe Alt, who, by all accounts, is going

1094
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:39,399
Speaker 2: to be an outstanding left tackle, yet they play him

1095
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: at right because of Slater. Is this feasible for long

1096
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 2: or will they have to move them around to keep

1097
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 2: people happy? Does this make an opening for a trade offer? Wild?

1098
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 2: I know, but it seems crazy that the Chargers drafted

1099
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: all with Slater as Slater isn't old.

1100
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers love having both of us.

1101
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 3: I saw something that had them the two highest rated

1102
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:02,399
Speaker 3: tackles of the week.

1103
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, they had.

1104
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 5: They did really well in Clowney. I think he went

1105
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 5: against last week.

1106
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 3: I had a couple of times, and I would just

1107
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 3: say I haven't seen any I haven't seen one second

1108
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 3: of the two Chargers games. But I know how Jim

1109
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: Harball wants to play, and I would imagine he likes

1110
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 3: the fact that he has two dominant tackles to to

1111
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 3: be physical behind. DJ Dobbins is a DK JK JK

1112
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: JK Dobbins just in DK Metcalf I get my nowadays.

1113
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: I mean he looks like a whole different guy.

1114
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 7: Yeah. I think left and right don't matter as much

1115
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 7: as to teams as maybe they did once upon a time,

1116
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 7: because you face the same You're facing the same level

1117
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,440
Speaker 7: of pass rusher, no matter which side of the line

1118
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 7: you're lined up again. So Joe all can stay at

1119
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 7: right tackle.

1120
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 3: For as long as he can do it. Yeah, I

1121
00:50:44,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: think there's there's some some guys that have a hard

1122
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 3: time switching, but.

1123
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 7: Doesn't see look like Jo He'll get paid twenty twenty

1124
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 7: five million dollars a year to play right tackle too.

1125
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 3: If he's a dominant tackle, he'll he'll get his money.

1126
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 7: Pen right exactly.

1127
00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: Peel plays right tackle exactly.

1128
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 2: Scott and Virginia has a question for Evan only me.

1129
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: He said, I noticed a lot of people saying Pop

1130
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 2: is not getting the ball because he's continually the third

1131
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: or fourth read, Jacoby doesn't have time to throw the

1132
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 2: ball to him. Does this scheme force a progression on

1133
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 2: the quarterback or is Jacoby to blame for not finding

1134
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 2: the mismatch pre snap?

1135
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean there's progressions in every offense. But I

1136
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,799
Speaker 7: agree that I don't see Pop in the initial read

1137
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 7: a ton. He was on the third down sack in

1138
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,319
Speaker 7: the game on Sunday, the big one that we we

1139
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:34,719
Speaker 7: talked about earlier, but the biggest thing. We kind of

1140
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,920
Speaker 7: hinted at it jokingly, but I think it's genuine. I

1141
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 7: don't necessarily believe that Jacoby loves throwing him the ball

1142
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 7: because of how short he is, and because of it,

1143
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 7: he doesn't have a great catch radius, and that if

1144
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 7: you're not pinpoint accurate as a quarterback and you don't

1145
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 7: think the guy is gonna save you, if the ball's

1146
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 7: a little high or whatever the case may be, it

1147
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 7: might be a little tough to throw him the football

1148
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 7: certain situations. The other thing I would point to that

1149
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 7: isn't quite as tinfoil Hattie is just he's not a

1150
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 7: base receiver in this offense. This is a run first offense.

1151
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 7: He doesn't play in a twelve lock. He doesn't play

1152
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 7: in twelve personnel. Really, the only thing that he can

1153
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 7: do on first down is go in motion, which like,

1154
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 7: how often are you really going to have him do

1155
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 7: that throughout the course of a game. He can't play

1156
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 7: the slot on early downs because he can't block. So

1157
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 7: it just from a stylistic standpoint, he's just not a

1158
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:36,959
Speaker 7: very good fit for what they're currently doing right now.

1159
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 3: Do you have the numbers you guys gonna know you

1160
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 3: eleven personnel? It seems like they are in that a lot.

1161
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, so he plays in eleven They were in

1162
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,280
Speaker 7: twelve twenty times in the game on Sunday.

1163
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: He was on the.

1164
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 7: Field for two of those snaps. So the other thirty

1165
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,400
Speaker 7: six snaps that he played, we're all in eleven personnel,

1166
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 7: So he is the third receiver that comes on the

1167
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 7: field when they go to a Evan, But Osbourne and

1168
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 7: Polk are their base receivers because those guys are bigger

1169
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,439
Speaker 7: and they can stick their hat into the run fit

1170
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,799
Speaker 7: and block people. So that that's a big difference for

1171
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 7: I know, it drives people nuts that we talked me

1172
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 7: nuts about run blocking and things like that. I get that,

1173
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 7: but it's just as clear as day that he doesn't.

1174
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 7: They don't play him in heavy personnelity with fans on

1175
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 7: first down.

1176
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:25,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems to me like he's your best receiver.

1177
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 3: He should be out there.

1178
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: I just don't find I don't remember. I don't know

1179
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: Wes Welker doing a lot of blocking. Maybe he did.

1180
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 7: Didn't run the ball a lot?

1181
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a different offense. They certainly didn't run

1182
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 3: for one hundred and eighty eighty yards.

1183
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 2: You know, put pop in the slot, get open and

1184
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 2: throw them the ball. I mean, that doesn't seem complicated.

1185
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 7: About on third down or two minutes or whatever, then yeah, absolutely,

1186
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 7: and they need to do that more. But this base offense,

1187
00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 7: it's just.

1188
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 2: What about a drive starter?

1189
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,359
Speaker 7: How are you going to run duo with a one

1190
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 7: hundred and eighty on receiver trying to dig out the nickel?

1191
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 7: Like good luck? Like that's just not going to work.

1192
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,880
Speaker 7: I need something moved.

1193
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 3: I haven't. I ton't know anybody. Twenty two cowboys moved

1194
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 3: on that one.

1195
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: Yeah the ball knowers the balls.

1196
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,040
Speaker 7: I don't mean to do that, but like the is

1197
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 7: it was good?

1198
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: It was.

1199
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,680
Speaker 7: The point is is that it just it just doesn't compute.

1200
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 7: It just doesn't compute. Or like if they're going to

1201
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 7: run outside zone, so they they did run outside zone

1202
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 7: a couple of times where they brought him in motion

1203
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 7: in the other direction to kind of move the defense over.

1204
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,880
Speaker 7: But that's literally all he can do and that situation

1205
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 7: is just going motion Otherwise, like you're gonna put him

1206
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 7: at the point of attack on outside zone.

1207
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 3: So Freddy, I'm gonna not argue with you.

1208
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 2: He'll block a lot.

1209
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 7: No, they motion him, Okay, that's motion our guy.

1210
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 3: Where they did go with you here? I know I

1211
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 3: always I hear you say he's Tyreek killed, so one

1212
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 3: of one of the people, one of you, I think

1213
00:54:55,760 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 3: the most important. Some people call them the dollar store

1214
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill. I don't know. Maybe you know out of

1215
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 3: business dollar store. But if you look back at the

1216
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 3: key one of the key junctions that we talked about

1217
00:55:11,080 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 3: the end of the first half, I think it was

1218
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 3: the second. First of all, everything about that sequence was

1219
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 3: horribly managed by the coaching staff. Like you come out,

1220
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 3: you run the ball, you decide we're gonna let time

1221
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,320
Speaker 3: tick off the clock because Jamichael Hasty's run didn't get anything,

1222
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 3: and then you throw the ball twice and like, I

1223
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: don't think they could make up their mind what they

1224
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 3: wanted to do. Okay, so there was a philosophical problem there,

1225
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 3: But I think the second down play was like, after

1226
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:46,359
Speaker 3: all of that, you run four verticals and you run

1227
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 3: your own eight yard line. That's not really the time.

1228
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:52,399
Speaker 3: Like in the last minute, when you're trying to get

1229
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: off the field and just keep the clock running, that

1230
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 3: didn't seem like a very opportunity time to take a shot.

1231
00:55:58,200 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 3: Like to Fred's point, why not instead have something quick

1232
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 3: to Tomorio Douglas where he's crossing the field. Maybe he

1233
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:09,239
Speaker 3: catches it. Maybe he's breaking a tackle. Maybe he gets

1234
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,800
Speaker 3: a step on a guy chasing him and he turns

1235
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 3: it out field, and all of a sudden, you get

1236
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 3: a free fifteen yards. Maybe he scats out of bounds,

1237
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 3: and now hey, game on without a two minute drill.

1238
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:21,759
Speaker 3: They haven't even been able to get into a two

1239
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,920
Speaker 3: minute drill. Now this gets back to practice. Do we

1240
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 3: see a single good two minute drill in practice? Very

1241
00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 3: rarely like the one that the most successful one took

1242
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 3: about a half an hour. You remember that day when

1243
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,719
Speaker 3: Brissette was saying, like they really, you really don't want

1244
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,640
Speaker 3: to be using thirteen plays on these drives.

1245
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,760
Speaker 7: You know, Yeah, they had one where he hit Thornton

1246
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 7: on a go route against Gonzales. That was like the

1247
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 7: big play of the drive. That was like the one

1248
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 7: time where.

1249
00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:47,680
Speaker 3: Was that against the Eagles that ended up stalling once

1250
00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:48,400
Speaker 3: they got down there.

1251
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 7: No, this was like a Patriots practice, But that was

1252
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 7: the one time I remember, like a clean They really

1253
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,800
Speaker 7: round him as one minute drills now.

1254
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 3: But I'm watching like last night, the end of the

1255
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:03,320
Speaker 3: game in Atlanta did not look great offensively. For vast

1256
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 3: big chunks of that game, all of a sudden they

1257
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 3: get in a two minute drill and Kirk Cousins looked

1258
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 3: like Tom Brady. I mean it was surgical, how easy

1259
00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,360
Speaker 3: he went down the field. And he's throwing to guys

1260
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 3: like Darnell Mooney.

1261
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 7: It's not like I like Darnel, good player.

1262
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,440
Speaker 3: I don't know, can can Douglas not be anything like that?

1263
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 7: I think that that's a really good comp for what

1264
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 7: pop Douglas.

1265
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I know I'm not crazy. I'm not

1266
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 3: calling him Tyreek Hill like human points out wisely that

1267
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 3: others in the local. And I also think that, oh,

1268
00:57:31,880 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 3: here we go. I think that's a little I was

1269
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 3: saying this to Mike as we were walking. I think

1270
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 3: that's part of the do Mario Douglas quandary right now?

1271
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: Overrated.

1272
00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 3: The local media had just anointed him as the next

1273
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 3: Edelman Welfare whoever, based off of, you know, a really

1274
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 3: promising rookie year like what there was talk of him

1275
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 3: smashing through the hundred reception mark. Can we let him

1276
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:01,120
Speaker 3: do it before? Like you know, and we're just gonna

1277
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: base it on a bunch of five yard passes that

1278
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 3: he caught in training camp practice. When he gets when

1279
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 3: he got back off of whatever the hand problem that

1280
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:09,919
Speaker 3: he had was like, and this is not a show.

1281
00:58:09,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 3: I think to Mario, Douglas is the best receiver they have.

1282
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 3: I'm not telling you that I think he can't play.

1283
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 3: So don't turn this into Paul's beating up on the

1284
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,280
Speaker 3: Patriots again, That's not what I'm doing. I think the

1285
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:24,760
Speaker 3: media perception of has raised the expectations, and now like

1286
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 3: he goes a couple of games where he's a non

1287
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 3: factor and people like, well, the first thing they have

1288
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 3: to do is he needs to be out there and

1289
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: he needs to be a base a base receiver. Well,

1290
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 3: Evan's given you a lot of football reasons why that

1291
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 3: might not make sense, like his size and his lack

1292
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: of physicality. If you're gonna have him out there sticking

1293
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 3: his nose and trying to how do you call it

1294
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 3: dig out the second, I'm not sure that's the best

1295
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 3: way to have him operate. I'm not sure throwing the

1296
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 3: ball to him, you know, a really high percentage of

1297
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 3: the time is a great way to have him operate,

1298
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: based on his concussion history.

1299
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 5: This is just another example, though, of things not quite

1300
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 5: fitting the offense right now, whether it's the offensive line,

1301
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 5: the style of guys that they have the style of

1302
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 5: receivers that they have what they're trying to do, Like,

1303
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:14,959
Speaker 5: the only thing that really fits right now and feels

1304
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 5: like is Remandre and Gibson, and those two pieces fit

1305
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 5: their running game pretty well. But I mean, I'm sure

1306
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 5: there'd be some pushback on Remandre too as to how

1307
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 5: well he really fits this scheme. I don't know that

1308
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 5: that to me. That's the big takeaway from two weeks

1309
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: is we're talking a lot about these guys.

1310
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 2: Don't fit with It'll be better when Kendrick Bourne gets back.

1311
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 3: It will be, I mean, it will be, but I'm

1312
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 3: not he should help. I mean, he's not going to

1313
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,439
Speaker 3: make them a good passing offense, but he'll make them better.

1314
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 3: He's better than what they have. He's better than Osborne, Yes,

1315
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: that's for sure.

1316
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 12: So so yeah, a couple more weeks which were re eligible,

1317
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 12: we're waiting for another fight there, weren't you.

1318
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you, a better receiver. Agree with Evan

1319
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 3: and I agree with Fred.

1320
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 7: Week five Miami, Yeah he was around Halloween, he and yeah,

1321
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 7: but they they did box him outside zone pretty well

1322
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 7: in the game on Sunday. That was probably there.

1323
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 3: Because hit seventeen foul balls.

1324
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 7: That was probably the best outside zone game they've had.

1325
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 3: They did. We were talking about it. Evan was learning

1326
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 3: to me that the outside zone step because I always

1327
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 3: asked him before I make it the declarative sentence.

1328
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,280
Speaker 7: Now one of them, Antonio Gibson, broke about six tackles

1329
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 7: and went for forty five yards. I want the numbers

1330
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 7: are a little bit inflated in the charting, but just

1331
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,200
Speaker 7: in general, I thought that they blocked it pretty well on.

1332
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:32,760
Speaker 12: Multiple runs outside the right sideline, I was nineteen yards.

1333
01:00:32,760 --> 01:00:33,440
Speaker 3: That was very well.

1334
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,080
Speaker 7: Ladon Robinson great, he.

1335
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 3: Had the edge. I mean like, like you say, he's

1336
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 3: gonna like you see, he's gonna put his foot down

1337
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 3: and he's going to get up the sideline unimpeded. The

1338
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 3: other one to me is like that was all Gibson,

1339
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: all of his zone. I think it was that that

1340
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:49,000
Speaker 3: missed the tackle.

1341
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I love Vermandre, but this offense needs explosiveness,

1342
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 7: and Gibson is an explosive guy, even if it's in

1343
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 7: some you know, we talked about screens. We taught like

1344
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 7: any sort of way to get him the ball into

1345
01:01:03,960 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 7: some space that I would argue with.

1346
01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 3: I don't think they've thrown anything to Gibson.

1347
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 7: And he had one third down conversion or beat the

1348
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 7: linebacker to the flat. But just in general, they need

1349
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 7: to find ways to get him the ball in space

1350
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,000
Speaker 7: because they just don't have a ton of guys that

1351
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 7: run away from people and he does.

1352
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: Matt and Virginia Beach. I'm definitely disappointed by the loss

1353
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: because I feel like it's a game we had a

1354
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:27,640
Speaker 2: real chance to win. I think that the potential lethality

1355
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: of the Patriots offense relies totally on the development of

1356
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 2: Drake May. Now I'm not banging the table for me

1357
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 2: to start against New York actually it's New Jersey. But

1358
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 2: ja Kobe Brissette will never be able to take this

1359
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 2: team to the next level. He is what he is,

1360
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,120
Speaker 2: game manager and not a game breaker. With all that

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01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: being said, I don't feel any sense of hopelessness like

1362
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 2: I felt under the Mac Jones, Bailey Zappi led teams.

1363
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 3: I agree because Drake May is the best club in

1364
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 3: the bag still.

1365
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 2: I truly that's a good way to put it. I

1366
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 2: truly feel like we have a chance to win every

1367
01:02:01,480 --> 01:02:03,600
Speaker 2: game we play this season, and I haven't felt that

1368
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: way for a long time. I consider that to be

1369
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 2: a very positive step forward. Under the Droid Mayo regime,

1370
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:13,480
Speaker 2: every game will be likely a salty rock fight, but

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Speaker 2: it appears that we have the fighting spirit within the

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Speaker 2: locker room.

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01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 3: I hope.

1374
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Speaker 5: So I'm just not ready to make declare the statements

1375
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 5: about this whole team and about what they are and

1376
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,000
Speaker 5: how every game's gonna go.

1377
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 4: This has been two games and they've.

1378
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 5: Played pretty well. I thought they've looked pretty well coached.

1379
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 5: They weren't as clutch in the second game. There's positive

1380
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,040
Speaker 5: things to build off of.

1381
01:02:31,080 --> 01:02:34,439
Speaker 3: But I would just say I can't tell everybody how

1382
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 3: they felt going into games last year and how they

1383
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,479
Speaker 3: feel going into games this year. They had a chance

1384
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 3: to win every game last they got blown out twice. Like,

1385
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 3: I just think it's unfair with people are like putting

1386
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,600
Speaker 3: on the difference in coaching. Yeah, like if Belichick did

1387
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 3: what Mayo did at the end of the first half,

1388
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 3: they would have eviscerated them eviscerated. That was coaching malpractice.

1389
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 3: That was like willingly giving the other team a chance

1390
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 3: ants to put points on the board. It happens, it

1391
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:07,000
Speaker 3: was a mistake. But I just think that people look

1392
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 3: at well, well, you know, everything's you know, we got

1393
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 3: a chance to win because everybody is so stunned. Well,

1394
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,600
Speaker 3: the expectations right, because of the expectations when Bill left right,

1395
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 3: the expectations was so low. That's why I said, I

1396
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 3: can't tell you how to feel. I didn't think that

1397
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,040
Speaker 3: they had no chance to win these two games. I

1398
01:03:23,040 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: thought there'd be one and one. I got them wrong.

1399
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:28,400
Speaker 3: I thought they would lose to Cincinnati and beat Seattle.

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Speaker 3: I thought they had a chance to win both games.

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01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,760
Speaker 3: I really did. Now I think they have a chance

1402
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 3: to win this game too. On Thursday night. After that,

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01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm gonna probably readjust a little bit moving forward, although

1404
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 3: the way that season's going for the Niners, they might

1405
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 3: have to forfeit. So who knows.

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Speaker 2: They're dropping like snowflakes over there, snowflakes. All right, We're

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Speaker 15: Only good afternoon, you know, had an opportunity to go

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Speaker 15: back and go through the film, had an opportunity to

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01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 15: go and meet with the coaches as well. In all

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01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 15: three phases of the game, we just didn't do enough.

1440
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:47,400
Speaker 15: We didn't execute when we needed to at the end

1441
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 15: of the half or the end of the game. And

1442
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Speaker 15: it's disappointing.

1443
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: And this is a.

1444
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 15: It's a true loss. If we don't learn anything from it.

1445
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 15: We're going to use this as a teaching experience and

1446
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 15: so talked about it, talk about it at the beginning

1447
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 15: of the season. What success looks like for me, and

1448
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 15: that's just getting better each and every week, not only

1449
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 15: the players, but also the coaches and myself.

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01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: What do you hope you last?

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01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, you know, I continually preach that every single play matters,

1452
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 15: and you can go back in that game and you

1453
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 15: can find eight to ten plays where if we would

1454
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 15: have just did that, and I hate that, right, like

1455
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 15: if this would have happened, if that would have happened, Well,

1456
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 15: it didn't happen, and so to me, it's you know,

1457
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:34,160
Speaker 15: the average play being five six seconds whatever. It is like,

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 15: you have to have the ultimate focus and maintain that

1459
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:39,440
Speaker 15: focus as the game continues on. Now, there were a

1460
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 15: lot of good things on the film, and I'm you know,

1461
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:46,160
Speaker 15: I'm not into I'm not into you know, a good

1462
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 15: loss or anything like that. That's not what I'm saying.

1463
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 15: But there were a lot of good things. I thought

1464
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 15: we were still able to run the ball, to control

1465
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,000
Speaker 15: a line of scrimmage, even when we were down. I

1466
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 15: felt like we were in control of the game. One thing,

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01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,480
Speaker 15: you know, if you offensively, we got to find a

1468
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 15: way to get the ball down the field. We got

1469
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,880
Speaker 15: to find a way to get the ball in our playmakers'

1470
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 15: hands so those guys can go out there and uh

1471
01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 15: and make yards. So and that's and that's on you know,

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01:07:10,440 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 15: it's a hybrid, it's a it's a it's on the

1473
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 15: coaches myself, starting with myself, And that definitely is something

1474
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 15: that we have to continue going forward. Defensively, you know,

1475
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:22,120
Speaker 15: those guys went out there and played hard, had a

1476
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,360
Speaker 15: few three and outs. We need we have to get turnovers.

1477
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,360
Speaker 15: We have to find a way to get turnovers and

1478
01:07:27,360 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 15: get the ball back into our offensive hands. And then

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01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 15: I would say special teams wise, you know, the main

1480
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:35,640
Speaker 15: thing being that block field goal that everyone remembers. But

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01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 15: like I said earlier, there were more. There were more

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01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:42,800
Speaker 15: plays than just the the blockfield goal that cost us

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01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 15: this game.

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01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,280
Speaker 3: Corrected in your mind or all these things.

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,760
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't think anything at this level is easy.

1486
01:07:53,000 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 15: I think there is some low hanging fruit though that

1487
01:07:54,840 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 15: we can take advantage of going forward.

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01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 3: Had a day to kind of chill on everything, would

1489
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 3: you have done anything differently, either with the fourth and

1490
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:06,200
Speaker 3: one in overtime or the clock management the way you

1491
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:06,840
Speaker 3: guys called the end.

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01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 15: Yeah, I don't want to get into you know, if

1493
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 15: this would have happened or looking back like that, you know,

1494
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 15: and dealing the hypotheticals. I made a decision, and you know,

1495
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Speaker 15: it's a decision that I have to live with, and

1496
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 15: I'm willing to take the consequences either way. And uh,

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01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 15: you know, all those all of those key decisions, whether

1498
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 15: it's to take the ball I mean at the going

1499
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 15: into overtime or not taking the ball going like those

1500
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 15: are all things that can change on a game by

1501
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,880
Speaker 15: game basis and also the flow of the game. And

1502
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 15: so you know, maybe the defense is played great are,

1503
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 15: the offense is playing great, and all those things come

1504
01:08:38,360 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 15: into play. So I wouldn't change anything. But at the

1505
01:08:41,400 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 15: same time, to your point, you have to go back

1506
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 15: and evaluate, you know, just that whole.

1507
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Speaker 16: Operations free to those conversations going.

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01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:55,040
Speaker 15: Look, all of those guys in that locker room want

1509
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 15: to play football. All those guys in the locker room

1510
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:00,720
Speaker 15: want to help this team win. And if they're not frustrated,

1511
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 15: then that's that's an even bigger problem. Frustrations. I mean,

1512
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,679
Speaker 15: every single week, someone's gonna be frustrated. Every single week

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01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 15: you're gonna have to put more on one side of

1514
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 15: the ball, or more on one individual than the other,

1515
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 15: just based on matchups alone. And you know, if you're

1516
01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 15: not frustrated that, that to me just says a lot.

1517
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:20,960
Speaker 3: I know you're asked about him yesterday and today, but

1518
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,120
Speaker 3: do you have any update Onokes four or four and

1519
01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:25,599
Speaker 3: whether you expect him to be available if you interest.

1520
01:09:26,520 --> 01:09:30,639
Speaker 15: Look, Chukes left the building. He's not with the team.

1521
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:33,400
Speaker 15: You know, he's doing some thinking, but at this point

1522
01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 15: in time, he's not with the team. So I don't

1523
01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 15: want to I don't want to get into that. I

1524
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,640
Speaker 15: told you guys, I did give him a call, we

1525
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 15: had a we had a good call, and uh, it

1526
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 15: had nothing to do with football or roster spot. Had

1527
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 15: everything to do with just making sure that he was okay,

1528
01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 15: was dutter at.

1529
01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: The green down and how easy like communication went.

1530
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 15: The communication was good and it was dutter. And remember

1531
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 15: Duggart did it all last year as well, so it

1532
01:09:57,560 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 15: was not anything new for him. I've always been a

1533
01:10:01,439 --> 01:10:03,840
Speaker 15: huge believer in like a linebacker having the green dop.

1534
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 15: But I'll tell you the way dugger played yesterday as

1535
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,599
Speaker 15: a whole and able to handle the communication, he definitely

1536
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 15: field in field in for that role. Yeah, that you know,

1537
01:10:19,479 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 15: it's hard for offensive and defensive players who you know,

1538
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 15: they feel they are just an offensive player or defense.

1539
01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 15: It's hard at this level. It's not like in college

1540
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 15: where you have one hundred people on the sideline. So

1541
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,120
Speaker 15: special teams is always part of the conversation and you

1542
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 15: always try to get uh unless you're there's the absolute

1543
01:10:38,160 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 15: best at your position or quarterback, like, they all have

1544
01:10:41,479 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 15: to play special teams. So we talk about that's the

1545
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 15: hidden yardage and we have to take advantage of those things.

1546
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 15: And let's see how it goes going forward.

1547
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:52,280
Speaker 10: What was that atmosphere like coaching in your first overtime game,

1548
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:55,559
Speaker 10: having having control of everything that the team was doing offensively, and.

1549
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 15: It was great. It was great, you know. Unfortunately, you know,

1550
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 15: we walked away with an l. But it was good

1551
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:04,000
Speaker 15: to be home. I thought the fans came out and

1552
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:06,880
Speaker 15: you know, they were loud and disappointed we weren't able

1553
01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 15: to deliver a win.

1554
01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: For You've talked a lot about toughness, and Jacoby has

1555
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:13,600
Speaker 1: shown that is there or what is the level of

1556
01:11:13,680 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 1: concern with a Way and how many times he's been

1557
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:16,920
Speaker 1: hit in these.

1558
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 15: First two games, and you never want your quarterback to

1559
01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:21,880
Speaker 15: get hit. We have to do a better job in

1560
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,840
Speaker 15: our pass pro up front, and we have to keep

1561
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 15: him clean because even when he's not getting hit, or

1562
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 15: any quarterback, if they're back there and they feel people

1563
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,680
Speaker 15: around him, it always is going to affect you a

1564
01:11:29,680 --> 01:11:32,240
Speaker 15: little bit. Now I'm saying that I've always said, Look,

1565
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,840
Speaker 15: Jacoby is a great leader. He's a competitor, but he's

1566
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:39,479
Speaker 15: also he's a very tough player mentally and physically. And look,

1567
01:11:39,479 --> 01:11:41,280
Speaker 15: we'll try to keep him clean going forward. But there

1568
01:11:41,439 --> 01:11:43,880
Speaker 15: I mean, look, he has shoulder pads on just like

1569
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,519
Speaker 15: everyone else, so see how it goes.

1570
01:11:45,800 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 9: You have any injury updates regarding family and I guess Jakobe.

1571
01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,720
Speaker 15: Yeah, so those guys are with the doctors right now.

1572
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 15: We had our injury check this morning, as I told

1573
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 15: you guys yesterday, and I'm still kind of waiting to

1574
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 15: hear back on some of that stuff. Yeah, I mean,

1575
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,080
Speaker 15: he's another one. Like the injury check was this morning.

1576
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,599
Speaker 15: You know, some of these guys had to get MRIs

1577
01:12:07,640 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 15: and second opinion. So to me, I probably misspoke when

1578
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:12,040
Speaker 15: I said, you know what, I'll be able to tell

1579
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 15: you at this press conference because once again full transparency,

1580
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 15: but once again you know you can give the team diagnoses.

1581
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 15: But a lot of these guys, whether it's them or

1582
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:22,960
Speaker 15: their agents, want to get a second opinion. So I

1583
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 15: don't feel comfortable talking about that until they get their

1584
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:26,200
Speaker 15: second opinion.

1585
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,680
Speaker 2: Is able to go this week? What's your level of.

1586
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 17: Confidence and.

1587
01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,280
Speaker 2: Uh, we'll have to see.

1588
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,280
Speaker 15: You know, he's he's had some some good snaps for us,

1589
01:12:36,280 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 15: And I mean that's what it's all about. It's you know,

1590
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 15: next man up mentality. I know it sounds very cliche

1591
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 15: or very corny, but that's I mean, that's the world

1592
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 15: we live in. Like, this is the roster that we

1593
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,639
Speaker 15: have and we're gonna We're gonna make do with it.

1594
01:12:51,800 --> 01:12:56,639
Speaker 1: And now great moments in history.

1595
01:12:57,160 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: Richard in Prague right said, please tell Matt Lower look

1596
01:13:01,400 --> 01:13:05,440
Speaker 2: like he's wrong. It's pronounced Edinburgh, not Edinburgh.

1597
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 3: This just won't go time out.

1598
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,080
Speaker 2: I haven't finished time out.

1599
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,880
Speaker 7: Because I know he's gonna write.

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01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 3: Yeah. I was much more lenient of the email timeout.

1601
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:17,240
Speaker 3: I let you read the whole thing. As matter of fact, if.

1602
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 5: Fred hasn't read any of the emails, and there have

1603
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:22,599
Speaker 5: been that have said Eric's right, you've refused to read

1604
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:23,000
Speaker 5: any of those.

1605
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,960
Speaker 3: I've seen comments on Twitter, absolutely refused.

1606
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: The tour guide who told him otherwise was clearly a

1607
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: major bell end. I've never heard that. That must be

1608
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,639
Speaker 2: in Scottish frog thing. I just thought it was funny,

1609
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 2: they said. One of the guys said I was right,

1610
01:13:36,479 --> 01:13:37,720
Speaker 2: and I didn't even know what I was saying. I

1611
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,240
Speaker 2: was just kind of throwing like Edinburgh.

1612
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:46,720
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from.

1613
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 2: All right back here and Patriots Unfiltered eight five five

1614
01:13:47,160 --> 01:13:50,240
Speaker 2: past five hundred is the TPX hotline web radio at

1615
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: patriots dot com. It's the email address. It's Evan Paul myself, dudes,

1616
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:58,320
Speaker 2: Matt in the booth. Hello, okay, just.

1617
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 11: Eight, get any quickly, quickly, I might need a bib.

1618
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 11: There's no mite, Yeah, burpia or burpia Yeah, a little bit, all.

1619
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 2: Right, Tim writes, And given the recent Bryce Young news,

1620
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 2: why aren't fans in New England more concerned about starting

1621
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,040
Speaker 2: a rookie on a bad team? More often than not,

1622
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 2: these kids need a lot to go right around them

1623
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 2: to succeed Carr Young, Donald Bradford, Wilson, Lance Jones, Fields,

1624
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 2: on and on and on. I don't want this kid

1625
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 2: in this team to start early only to be a

1626
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 2: cautionary tale.

1627
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:37,880
Speaker 7: Well, seems like you're gonna get your wish because he's

1628
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:38,360
Speaker 7: not playing.

1629
01:14:38,640 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 3: So yeah. I just think it's too simplistic the way

1630
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,320
Speaker 3: people cag a right. I mean, if a guy plays

1631
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,880
Speaker 3: right away and he doesn't work out, it's because you

1632
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 3: played too early. Yeah, Like okay, yeah, if you tell

1633
01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 3: me so, If you tell me Bryce Young would have

1634
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 3: been a star if he sat eight weeks and this

1635
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 3: wouldn't be happening, I'll take your word for it. I

1636
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 3: don't know. I can't tell you I'm right.

1637
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:01,840
Speaker 5: But what are the saying operations on though, is this

1638
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 5: like we need to pull them back? And is this

1639
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,839
Speaker 5: like your mental resets?

1640
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:09,320
Speaker 3: He played, he played too early and they don't have

1641
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:11,760
Speaker 3: the roster to support him, so they ruined him. That's

1642
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,400
Speaker 3: the that's the Twitter, because the Twitter has all the answers,

1643
01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 3: much like to taga Loa should retire because because people

1644
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 3: that watch football say so, yeah, Antonio Piis by the way,

1645
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:26,600
Speaker 3: should be fined.

1646
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:29,480
Speaker 2: But they're all Paul, you got it, they're all concerned

1647
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,000
Speaker 2: for Tua.

1648
01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 3: How many to Mario Douglas get last year? To anybody

1649
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 3: calling for him to retire? No, not yeah, because it's

1650
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 3: not of our business.

1651
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:43,799
Speaker 2: Well he didn't do the fencing, but it's.

1652
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: Not of our business. It's it's it's up to the

1653
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:49,679
Speaker 3: player to take, you know, the information that he has,

1654
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 3: weigh the risks, decide what he wants to do, what's

1655
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:55,480
Speaker 3: best for him. There's plenty of guys. Who's that linebacker

1656
01:15:55,479 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: from San Francisco Borland? I think Chris Borland retired after

1657
01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:01,400
Speaker 3: like his first year, had a good YEP, first or

1658
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,439
Speaker 3: second year, that what was best for him, right, that's

1659
01:16:04,439 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: what that's what he decided to do.

1660
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 2: Yep. Franklin and Baltimore. I know you guys will spend

1661
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,960
Speaker 2: some time talking about the game, but I have to

1662
01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: mention I see how Carolina just torpedoed any chance of

1663
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: Bryce Young being a decent player. And I'm all the

1664
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 2: more glad May didn't follow the same route because I

1665
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,160
Speaker 2: think multiple things can be true. Yes, Bryce is bad

1666
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,800
Speaker 2: and has shown no sign of improvement from year one

1667
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: to year two. And yes there are other quarterbacks who

1668
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 2: can overcome a bad situation. But if you're a team

1669
01:16:35,760 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 2: who has invested as much capital as the Panthers did

1670
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 2: in getting Young, it doesn't do your organization any good

1671
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 2: to then just throw him to the Wolves before he's

1672
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,360
Speaker 2: ready and expect them to show a maturity of a

1673
01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 2: veteran when managing a bad team. Some young quarterbacks do

1674
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 2: need more time than others. And it's nighttime, and it's nighttime,

1675
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:03,520
Speaker 2: we hold it's not time. Maybe we hold front offices

1676
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:08,360
Speaker 2: accountable for poorly supporting the young players. Thankfully, the Patriots

1677
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: are doing the right thing and aren't rushing for instant

1678
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: gratification while the team is still under construction.

1679
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 7: I sort of have a question in the back that

1680
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:22,080
Speaker 7: last point, but just out of curiosity, like name the

1681
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 7: best receiver on the Carolina Panthers, Right, I'm feeling Deontay

1682
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:31,640
Speaker 7: Johnson Adam feeling maybe right like it just their situation

1683
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,960
Speaker 7: in Carolina is malpracticed because they had two full off

1684
01:17:35,000 --> 01:17:38,640
Speaker 7: seasons to stock Bryce Young supporting gats and have done well.

1685
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: They also wasted all their resources getting Bryce Young right.

1686
01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:44,519
Speaker 7: And including trading DJ Moore, who would have been very

1687
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:45,080
Speaker 7: helpful to.

1688
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 3: Now he probably wants to go back by Burns like

1689
01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,600
Speaker 3: they wasted a lot of Listen, I'm not going to

1690
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 3: turn this into the Panthers, but I just have a

1691
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,120
Speaker 3: quick question. When I was fourteen, how do we know

1692
01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 3: that Bryce Young wasn't ready right?

1693
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,160
Speaker 2: That's I think it's something there that you don't know.

1694
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 7: Their situation to me, has nothing to do with Bryce Young.

1695
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 7: If the Patriots go into next off season twenty twenty

1696
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 7: five and they still have this line and these receivers

1697
01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:13,640
Speaker 7: and all that, it's gonna have nothing to do with

1698
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,519
Speaker 7: Drake May. Necessarily it's gonna have to do with the

1699
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 7: fact that Elliott Wolf didn't do his job.

1700
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,280
Speaker 3: Now, I'm not as smart as these people. I don't

1701
01:18:19,320 --> 01:18:22,760
Speaker 3: know the state of readiness that all these players have.

1702
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,680
Speaker 3: Like I don't. I didn't know that Trey Lance was

1703
01:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,519
Speaker 3: gonna break his ankle in his second career style, I

1704
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 3: didn't know that was gonna happen. I'm not as smart

1705
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 3: as these people. Yeah, Like I think there's a million

1706
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 3: ways that quarterbacks fail and succeed. Yeah, and I think

1707
01:18:35,439 --> 01:18:38,120
Speaker 3: that we just think there's only there's only two. Either

1708
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,800
Speaker 3: guy plays too early or they do it the right way. Now,

1709
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,599
Speaker 3: those are the only two.

1710
01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 2: I have to admit. I haven't watched a lot of

1711
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:45,679
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, so I don't know the eye test.

1712
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 3: He stinks, right, I mean there is what is what

1713
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 3: it is?

1714
01:18:48,479 --> 01:18:51,120
Speaker 2: Like? Like I watched Caleb Williams the other night. He

1715
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:52,639
Speaker 2: looked okay, Like.

1716
01:18:52,680 --> 01:18:54,640
Speaker 3: I thought he looked really good, to be honest.

1717
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 2: With you, he threw the ball well with you know,

1718
01:18:57,240 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 2: with confidence. I thought he moved around. He's going to

1719
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 2: get better, Like he has a lot to He's got

1720
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,280
Speaker 2: to learn that. He can't run around right seven times

1721
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:10,479
Speaker 2: the ball. But you can see like him out there

1722
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,200
Speaker 2: is going to help him, Like it's it's now listen.

1723
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 7: He's so much more talented than Yeah, he.

1724
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,360
Speaker 3: Might he might not work right like for that. There

1725
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: might be other reasons why, But I just don't think

1726
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:25,320
Speaker 3: it's always if the guy plays too early and it

1727
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 3: doesn't work out, it's because he played too guy plays

1728
01:19:27,479 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 3: right away, it's because he played too early, right. I

1729
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: think that's so simplistic. There's no pressure on anybody.

1730
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 7: Like I have one of the Baker Mayfield league.

1731
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,120
Speaker 3: Let's look at your guy, Baker Mayfield, who I'm not

1732
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 3: a huge fan of, is better with him? Has he looked?

1733
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:41,679
Speaker 2: Looks great?

1734
01:19:41,840 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 3: He's playing all right? Right, Yeah, it's doing okay. Played early.

1735
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 3: Cleveland ruined him right.

1736
01:19:48,479 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 5: Right, That would have ruined like three times Cleveland ruined him.

1737
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 3: Then you know he left it or or maybe it

1738
01:19:57,400 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 3: just took him a while to figure out how to play. Yeah,

1739
01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:03,719
Speaker 3: and he was fine. They're like, it's not this mental

1740
01:20:03,800 --> 01:20:06,400
Speaker 3: battering that he had. I don't know. Maybe he would

1741
01:20:06,439 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 3: probably tell you maybe I could have used a little

1742
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: more time to develop, and he probably like who wouldn't.

1743
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 3: But I just don't think it's a blanket statement that

1744
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,120
Speaker 3: like if you right away, you played too.

1745
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,960
Speaker 2: Early, or he could tell you being out there right

1746
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,639
Speaker 2: away helped me because I faster.

1747
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 7: You know, he was actually good as rookie year. He

1748
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,560
Speaker 7: was really good as k He kind of had like

1749
01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:28,519
Speaker 7: a Mac Jones of it all where the rookie year

1750
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 7: was good and then it kind of takes.

1751
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,120
Speaker 2: I just know me, and whether it was in sports

1752
01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:38,280
Speaker 2: or a classroom, I learned by doing a lot faster

1753
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 2: than just listen.

1754
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 3: And that worked for you. Right now, someone else might

1755
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:45,519
Speaker 3: work by watching, you know, learn by watching, and he

1756
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,840
Speaker 3: benefits from it. I just my problem isn't that I'm

1757
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,040
Speaker 3: I think I'm right. That's not my problem. Your problem

1758
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,000
Speaker 3: is I don't know saying it has to be this way, right,

1759
01:20:55,120 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: there's only and it's everybody's analysis is strictly result based.

1760
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:03,200
Speaker 3: I don't need an analysis if you're just gonna tell

1761
01:21:03,240 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 3: me who won the game, right, like I have the

1762
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 3: school board for that. Like obviously Bryce Young has been terrible.

1763
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: Did you see like do you see some of his

1764
01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 3: stats Mike.

1765
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: Years?

1766
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,800
Speaker 4: Oh no, I saw him getting run around getting killed.

1767
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,120
Speaker 3: Like literally the Patriots passing game is doubling that. Think

1768
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 3: about that, that's how bad it's been. Yeah, But I don't, like,

1769
01:21:28,479 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 3: I don't I just don't know everything that all these

1770
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:31,920
Speaker 3: other guys seem to know.

1771
01:21:31,880 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 5: That he was wasn't ready, and it's such without context

1772
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,160
Speaker 5: of their college careers of guys who were Drake May

1773
01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 5: who's twenty one, who really started two years whereas this

1774
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 5: is a guy like Jayden Daniels, who you know, what,

1775
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,679
Speaker 5: what's Jayden Daniels like If you're gonna sit him now

1776
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,639
Speaker 5: at twenty four to twenty five years, like, you got

1777
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 5: to get him going. You know, he's got all that

1778
01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:49,519
Speaker 5: college experience that he has to go off of. Whereas

1779
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 5: you know, kid like May's a little bit younger.

1780
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,120
Speaker 3: So like those three, those three rookies that are playing right,

1781
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 3: none of them are ready, like because the rookie is

1782
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 3: just probably not going to be ready, right, but I

1783
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:04,960
Speaker 3: don't know, like Washington has been able to be serviceable

1784
01:22:05,000 --> 01:22:06,280
Speaker 3: with Jayden Daniels.

1785
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:06,360
Speaker 7: Been the best.

1786
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:08,439
Speaker 2: You know, it's a question do you get them ready

1787
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,879
Speaker 2: on the bench or do you get them ready by playing?

1788
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,120
Speaker 2: Either way, like you said, none of them are ready.

1789
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 3: To me, the only one of them looks like he's

1790
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 3: way over his head.

1791
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 2: Get them ready quicker and better.

1792
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,800
Speaker 3: Like when I watched this because I watched a good

1793
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,479
Speaker 3: chunk of the Denver game because we were playing Seattle, Yeah,

1794
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:25,280
Speaker 3: and I thought bo Nix looked like he was way

1795
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 3: over his head.

1796
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 7: He had to Mac Jones interceptions in that game off

1797
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 7: the back foot, just lofting the ball.

1798
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 2: And he said when they asked him, you know, what

1799
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: did you see on that interception? He goes, I dropped

1800
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: back and through it to the other team. That was

1801
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:39,320
Speaker 2: his explanation.

1802
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:44,040
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like that if I was Sean Payton. But

1803
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 3: he's got four picks in two games. He looks to me,

1804
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 3: you know, like he's struggling. Daniels runs around. He's a

1805
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 3: great athlete and he gets himself out of a lot

1806
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:56,639
Speaker 3: of trouble, you know with that, And I think Williams,

1807
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 3: I agree with you, especially in the first half the

1808
01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 3: other night. I thought there was a big improvement from

1809
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 3: Week one to week two. We missed a lot of

1810
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,679
Speaker 3: easy throws in week one. He's going to have to learn,

1811
01:23:06,960 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 3: much like Brian Hoyer said about May in the preseason,

1812
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:14,080
Speaker 3: like you can't just run around because these guys in

1813
01:23:14,120 --> 01:23:16,200
Speaker 3: this league are just as fast as you and they're

1814
01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 3: gonna you can't just run around. Give ground. He had

1815
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 3: like a nineteen yard sack he took in the first game,

1816
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:25,439
Speaker 3: and some of the interceptions were as a result of

1817
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 3: him just trying to do too much. He's got to

1818
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 3: learn that kind of stuff.

1819
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:32,759
Speaker 2: He and how big, and then that becomes the bottom line.

1820
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:36,600
Speaker 2: How best to learn that? Is it just sitting on

1821
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 2: the bench or actually getting in the game and making

1822
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:41,679
Speaker 2: those mistakes and learning from that. There's no right answer.

1823
01:23:41,800 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 3: Learning from it, though, is the key. Whether he's on

1824
01:23:44,040 --> 01:23:46,479
Speaker 3: the field or on the bench, does he learn from

1825
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:48,320
Speaker 3: it or do you just see the same mistakes over

1826
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 3: and over it.

1827
01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 7: The vibe I get from the Patriots handling with Drake

1828
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:58,000
Speaker 7: is more him watching Jakobe go through the motions of

1829
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 7: being a starting quarterback in the league. More so then

1830
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 7: he's only gonna learn the stuff we're talking about by playing.

1831
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 7: I don't think that they believe that he's gonna stand

1832
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,920
Speaker 7: on the sideline and holding the clipboard and all of

1833
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:14,120
Speaker 7: a sudden learn how to redefenses and do all this

1834
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:17,760
Speaker 7: other stuff by sitting on the sideline. They want him

1835
01:24:17,800 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 7: to mature a little bit before they throw him out there.

1836
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 7: They want to show him, you know, this is what

1837
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 7: a ten year veteran in the league does to prepare

1838
01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 7: on Tuesday for a game that's not until Sunday. Like

1839
01:24:30,040 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 7: this is the way that you go about watching film,

1840
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,360
Speaker 7: This is the way that you go about scouting an

1841
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 7: opponent like those types of things, because they aren't in

1842
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 7: any rush. Like if they felt like they they needed

1843
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 7: to rush him on the field, then they would probably

1844
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 7: just say, just learn that stuff, you know, we'll walk

1845
01:24:46,040 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 7: it through it and we'll get you there. But they

1846
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:50,599
Speaker 7: aren't in any rush. I don't think it's that they

1847
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:53,759
Speaker 7: believe he's gonna be better off from sitting. In terms

1848
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,880
Speaker 7: of all the stuff we're talking about, like Caleb holding

1849
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:59,639
Speaker 7: the ball too long, or you know, bo Nick's throwing

1850
01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 7: bad interceptions or whatever the case may be. That stuff

1851
01:25:02,720 --> 01:25:04,840
Speaker 7: is going to come from playing. But they want him

1852
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 7: to learn how to be a pro. And I also

1853
01:25:07,360 --> 01:25:10,880
Speaker 7: think they wanted the offense to in general just settle down,

1854
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:14,599
Speaker 7: at least settle into some sort of an identity before

1855
01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:15,559
Speaker 7: they put him.

1856
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,439
Speaker 4: In their fingers crossed, we'll get there, I believe.

1857
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,280
Speaker 2: Derek writes in are the Patriots doing on? When you

1858
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,640
Speaker 2: a disservice putting him at right tackle and not his

1859
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,480
Speaker 2: normal position of guard.

1860
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:29,880
Speaker 5: I mean, personally, I feel like I've been consistent. I

1861
01:25:29,960 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 5: just I think he's a really good guard. Yeah, I

1862
01:25:32,120 --> 01:25:35,599
Speaker 5: think he's an okay tackle. And it's just I have.

1863
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,440
Speaker 7: A tough time saying disservice because he already got paid.

1864
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:40,120
Speaker 3: Kind of getting paid like a right tackle.

1865
01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 7: He's already making money, so it's not like he's on

1866
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 7: the last year of his rookie contract and he's trying

1867
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 7: to hit free agency on a high. He already got

1868
01:25:48,200 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 7: his money. But yeah, he's he's out of position.

1869
01:25:51,479 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 3: I think he'd be better served at guard. I agree

1870
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 3: with everybody. But he is getting paid. I think he's

1871
01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,719
Speaker 3: like on the fringe of the top ten right tackles

1872
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:05,120
Speaker 3: at nineteen million AAV something like that. It's just like

1873
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 3: he's underpaid. Let's put it that way.

1874
01:26:06,880 --> 01:26:08,800
Speaker 5: It's just not a twenty I mean, you you paid

1875
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:11,200
Speaker 5: this guy. You you know, touted him as a big

1876
01:26:11,240 --> 01:26:13,280
Speaker 5: signing of you know, kind of the crown jewel of

1877
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:17,360
Speaker 5: your offensive line in the offseason, and the reports that

1878
01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 5: he came in overweight, that he's you know, having a

1879
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,559
Speaker 5: bad game in Week two. I mean, these are the

1880
01:26:21,600 --> 01:26:23,519
Speaker 5: guys that you need to rise up and set the

1881
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,960
Speaker 5: tone and you know, carry the torch on the offensive line,

1882
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 5: and right now, to have him have a bad game,

1883
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 5: it's just it's disheartening. It's okay, I understand if it's

1884
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 5: a left tackle position, I think we're all used to

1885
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 5: that at this point, but but getting it from him

1886
01:26:34,280 --> 01:26:36,120
Speaker 5: when you it's that's that's a step backwards.

1887
01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:39,439
Speaker 2: Todd's in North Carolina the TPX outline, what's up Todd?

1888
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 17: Hey, you get up to that And gentlemen, I took

1889
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:44,479
Speaker 17: away some positives from the game thinking that, you know,

1890
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 17: they tried to do some other stuff and they didn't

1891
01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:48,519
Speaker 17: just quit like last ye as soon as they would

1892
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 17: have gone down, I think they might have just quit.

1893
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:56,040
Speaker 17: My question is kind of how do how does how

1894
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:00,280
Speaker 17: does our opensive coordinator get this team to a play

1895
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:03,360
Speaker 17: where we can use all our tools because we're not

1896
01:27:03,439 --> 01:27:05,240
Speaker 17: using all our tools, but we don't have a lot

1897
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,280
Speaker 17: of great tools. We've got some good tools, and I

1898
01:27:08,280 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 17: want to go great and I think the only way

1899
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,479
Speaker 17: the team can progress is to be able to use

1900
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 17: all of them. And I'm not sure how you do

1901
01:27:15,000 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 17: it with the system. You think you can go inside

1902
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:18,640
Speaker 17: a system or is he going to be forcing the

1903
01:27:18,720 --> 01:27:20,920
Speaker 17: system onto the players have.

1904
01:27:20,960 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 2: A good show. Well, I know there's two parts to that.

1905
01:27:24,040 --> 01:27:27,080
Speaker 2: And not sure they quit last year. I think maybe

1906
01:27:27,080 --> 01:27:30,719
Speaker 2: on offense maybe some guys, but not on defense certainly,

1907
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 2: you know. And then the other part of it. I mean,

1908
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,960
Speaker 2: it's I can't answer that. I have no idea like

1909
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,640
Speaker 2: forcing the system onto them versus adjusting the system to

1910
01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:43,280
Speaker 2: the players.

1911
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 7: You know, I just kind of disagree with that whole notion,

1912
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 7: not to like pick on Todd, but like, I don't

1913
01:27:49,360 --> 01:27:53,479
Speaker 7: I don't feel like they're forcing players into a system.

1914
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 7: Like every team has a system, so at some point

1915
01:27:56,960 --> 01:28:00,240
Speaker 7: in time, you have to run a system. You not

1916
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 7: going to just it's not Madden, Like we're not just

1917
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:08,360
Speaker 7: picking plays out of a make believe playbook and saying

1918
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 7: this is what we're gonna run. Like every team has

1919
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:13,959
Speaker 7: a system that the players have to go out and

1920
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,320
Speaker 7: find out how to execute within their skill sets. So like,

1921
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 7: I don't know, I feel like there's a lot of

1922
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 7: that coming out of this game, where it's like, oh,

1923
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,439
Speaker 7: they're forcing the system onto the grip, like I they

1924
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:29,320
Speaker 7: got to execute better. Like it's that simple. Like the players,

1925
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 7: like Josh McDaniels would not change his entire system, you

1926
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 7: would tell them to execute it better.

1927
01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 3: No, you cannot like the system. I don't particularly care

1928
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 3: for it, But I don't necessarily think that they need

1929
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 3: to like alter everything to fit. Yeah to Mario Douglas.

1930
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 2: Right.

1931
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:45,960
Speaker 7: That's my point too.

1932
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 2: Nolan in California. As much as I wanted in thought

1933
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 2: Drake would start week once, seeing how the season is unfolding,

1934
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:55,360
Speaker 2: with rookie quarterbacks struggling a bit, Jacoby doing a nice

1935
01:28:55,439 --> 01:28:58,880
Speaker 2: job of protecting the ball and himself, I don't mind

1936
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:02,479
Speaker 2: this patient approach, especially since even with Drake, who is

1937
01:29:02,520 --> 01:29:05,000
Speaker 2: to say, who is to say our record will be better?

1938
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:05,920
Speaker 2: Let's be patient.

1939
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,639
Speaker 5: I just I wonder when the patients will run out,

1940
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 5: And that's you know, I'm patient right now.

1941
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:13,000
Speaker 4: But I just think it goes back to what we

1942
01:29:13,000 --> 01:29:13,880
Speaker 4: were just talking about.

1943
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 5: Is no one out there is anyone realistically saying Drake

1944
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 5: May shouldn't even play this year.

1945
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:19,720
Speaker 2: Like that's where I draw, And that's the thing we

1946
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 2: talked about, Like a lot.

1947
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 3: Of people want that.

1948
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 2: Let's let's not confuse playing Drake because we think the

1949
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,200
Speaker 2: record will be better. That's not why I want to

1950
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 2: play Drake. I don't care about the record this year.

1951
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,040
Speaker 2: All I care about is the development of Drake May.

1952
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 2: And if that means they won two games. But now

1953
01:29:39,640 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 2: if they only win two games, that probably means they

1954
01:29:41,360 --> 01:29:43,559
Speaker 2: didn't play that well. But I get it. But like

1955
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 2: that's like what the record is to me right now

1956
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 2: is secondary to the future. I just the future is

1957
01:29:50,120 --> 01:29:51,559
Speaker 2: what I'm worried about right now.

1958
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,639
Speaker 3: I don't think it would matter much like I mean,

1959
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,559
Speaker 3: nobody you're gonna give yourself like that much better of

1960
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 3: a chance or worse of a chance.

1961
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to. I don't want to play Drake

1962
01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:03,880
Speaker 2: May now because I want a record to be better.

1963
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 3: But like to Mike's point, I get the feeling there's

1964
01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:09,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people now that are very content if

1965
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 3: they don't see May at all this year, and I'm

1966
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:12,719
Speaker 3: not making listen.

1967
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:13,759
Speaker 2: I think that's growing.

1968
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 3: But I say this all the time. I don't like

1969
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:17,639
Speaker 3: to tell people how they should feel. Like if that's

1970
01:30:17,680 --> 01:30:20,759
Speaker 3: how you feel as a fan, then that's how you feel.

1971
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 3: I just but I think there's a growing thing. Like

1972
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: it was like a New England Twitter victory lap when

1973
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:29,800
Speaker 3: Bryce Young was announced to getting bench yesterday. See this

1974
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:32,439
Speaker 3: is why we're doing it the right way. Okay, like

1975
01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:35,040
Speaker 3: that that's how you feel. So you don't want Drake

1976
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:38,400
Speaker 3: May to play it all this year? Right, That's because

1977
01:30:38,439 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 3: that's basically what you're saying. And yeah, I again, I

1978
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:45,320
Speaker 3: don't tell people how they should feel. I just think

1979
01:30:45,360 --> 01:30:47,120
Speaker 3: it's important to get him some experience.

1980
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:49,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, I selfishly want to see him play because it's

1981
01:30:49,240 --> 01:30:52,120
Speaker 7: more exciting for us from selfishly ye through the rough.

1982
01:30:52,479 --> 01:30:56,040
Speaker 7: But I'm with exactly what you just said. I just

1983
01:30:56,080 --> 01:30:57,640
Speaker 7: want to see him get his feet wet at some

1984
01:30:57,720 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 7: point this year so that he's not going into your

1985
01:31:00,160 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 7: too completely inexperienced. Because I like to be positive and

1986
01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 7: think upbeat that Elliott Wolf in this personnel department is

1987
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 7: gonna do their jobs. They're gonna do stuff the next offseason,

1988
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 7: so they're gonna have a ton of cap space. They're

1989
01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 7: probably gonna have a pretty high draft pick. If this

1990
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:21,240
Speaker 7: offense has Will Campbell at left tackle and T Higgins

1991
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 7: at receiver going into next season. I know that's lofty

1992
01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,639
Speaker 7: to expect all that to fall into place, but something

1993
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:29,599
Speaker 7: along those lines. And now Drake May played the last

1994
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 7: six eight games of the season and looked, Okay, now

1995
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,439
Speaker 7: you feel like you have some hope going into next

1996
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 7: season like that. That's where I'm at, Like this is

1997
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 7: not the finished product of what this offense is going

1998
01:31:40,479 --> 01:31:43,240
Speaker 7: to look like when he's truly the entrench starter.

1999
01:31:43,720 --> 01:31:45,519
Speaker 5: And I mean I've said up before too. It's that's

2000
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 5: all great stuff too. And for me, it's starting starting

2001
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,000
Speaker 5: his story with the Patriots and going into you know,

2002
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 5: whether it's probably not maybe going down to Miami or

2003
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 5: having to go to Buffalo and getting the experience of

2004
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 5: those games, those places. He's gonna have to play like

2005
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 5: to get those out of the so next year it's

2006
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,360
Speaker 5: not all right his first time going to Miami or

2007
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:05,080
Speaker 5: his first time going to Buffalo. I'd like to get

2008
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,519
Speaker 5: those things out of the way now, start to establish that,

2009
01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 5: get you know, get his butt kicked by Buffalo, and

2010
01:32:09,880 --> 01:32:12,439
Speaker 5: then you know he's motivated to come back and play.

2011
01:32:12,479 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 5: So as much as it's like about the playbook and

2012
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,120
Speaker 5: understanding how game day goes and all those kind of things,

2013
01:32:17,120 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 5: for me, it's it's about the story too and starting

2014
01:32:19,320 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 5: that and starting to build Drake may up as the

2015
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 5: guy who's going to dig you out of this hole.

2016
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: Listen, no one said it was going to be easy, right,

2017
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,160
Speaker 2: but you know it's easy to know. It is bud Light,

2018
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Speaker 2: it's easy to drink, it's easy to enjoy. Bud Light,

2019
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Speaker 2: the official beer sponsor of the New England Patriots. And

2020
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2021
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:45,840
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2022
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2023
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2024
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2025
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Speaker 2: keep you comfy during overtime, or extendable sets ideal for

2026
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2027
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2028
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2029
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2030
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Speaker 2: the official furniture store of the New England Patriots. Travis

2031
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Speaker 2: in West Virginia writes in I'm not normally critical of

2032
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 2: play calling, but the regular old handoff they did and

2033
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:30,519
Speaker 2: the first player overtime really annoyed me. Also, on the

2034
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,639
Speaker 2: postgame shows, Mike has been referring to the Good List

2035
01:33:33,680 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 2: as the uplist. Can you please ask him to just

2036
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 2: stick to the script and stop being all California progressive

2037
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 2: about everything up, Bro, that's funny.

2038
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that the uplist.

2039
01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 3: Now, now it's going to be an airworm for me.

2040
01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:53,240
Speaker 4: There we go all right, I like it.

2041
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,320
Speaker 3: Okay, I just wish we could do the good list,

2042
01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:59,639
Speaker 3: the bad list, and the injured list without interruption.

2043
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:04,639
Speaker 2: Oh okay, that's a comment for the host.

2044
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 5: Right, we got to the injured this week, though, that was.

2045
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:10,680
Speaker 3: We did have it. We had an we had an

2046
01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:12,280
Speaker 3: injured list this week, unfortunately.

2047
01:34:12,439 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh spiin Fresno. Is it fair to blame the

2048
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 2: defensive miscues on the lack of offense? The staff is

2049
01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 2: asked for the defense to carry the team for years. Eventually,

2050
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 2: asking so much from the defense will be too much.

2051
01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 2: That said, Christian Gonzalez's coverage looks soft as a baby's bottom.

2052
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:33,800
Speaker 2: Sure he's a ballerina out there, but maybe it's time

2053
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 2: to take off the tow two and press a guy.

2054
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,080
Speaker 7: I guess, I guess we just see two different guys

2055
01:34:39,120 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 7: with Gonzales.

2056
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,879
Speaker 2: I'll just let him have his t what's the rebuttal

2057
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 2: the tape?

2058
01:34:44,600 --> 01:34:48,560
Speaker 7: Like, I just I'm just not really sure, but tell like,

2059
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,719
Speaker 7: like I mean, if you want to put the bust

2060
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 7: on him, then like shore like, you can put the

2061
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,040
Speaker 7: coverage bust on him if you want to do that.

2062
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 7: Play clearly the rest of the game he's on Metcalf

2063
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,760
Speaker 7: for the shadowing Metcalf all over the field and he

2064
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:05,160
Speaker 7: gives up I think it was three catches for like

2065
01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,600
Speaker 7: twenty four yards against DK and coverage, Like do you

2066
01:35:08,640 --> 01:35:11,599
Speaker 7: want him to press a guy that has twenty five

2067
01:35:11,640 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 7: pounds on him and runs a four to three with

2068
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,040
Speaker 7: the game on the line in overtime, Like that's that's

2069
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,320
Speaker 7: the why strategy is to get up in his face

2070
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,679
Speaker 7: and then when he runs by him for a seventy

2071
01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,920
Speaker 7: five yard touchdown to win the game, then we're all

2072
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,559
Speaker 7: gonna blame him for why was He's so aggressive on

2073
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 7: the play, Like he was at a size disadvantage going

2074
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,400
Speaker 7: up against DK, so he played more offman in this

2075
01:35:32,439 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 7: game than he has in the past. And I can

2076
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 7: totally understand why, like make him run by you, Like

2077
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 7: why would you just crowd him at the line of scrimmage,

2078
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:44,320
Speaker 7: let him throw you out the club and then go

2079
01:35:44,439 --> 01:35:46,280
Speaker 7: up the field on you, Like that doesn't make any

2080
01:35:46,360 --> 01:35:49,160
Speaker 7: sense to me. I just I don't know that I

2081
01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:51,519
Speaker 7: get I'm ana he could call me all riled up,

2082
01:35:51,560 --> 01:35:53,960
Speaker 7: but I just I just don't really see, like what

2083
01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 7: the nitpicks are with Gonzales Unless you want to sit

2084
01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 7: here and say that that he gave up the touchdown.

2085
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 2: Well, I think what they.

2086
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,240
Speaker 3: Don't ever apologize to having a strong opinion about something

2087
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:03,880
Speaker 3: that's good stuff.

2088
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:07,360
Speaker 2: Well, well see, now, ball knowers might say what you're saying,

2089
01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 2: but the lay person might say, well, we didn't see

2090
01:36:10,080 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 2: him break up passes.

2091
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,080
Speaker 7: He did break up a pass, well, he almost intercepted it.

2092
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 3: He had a good player in a deep ball. But

2093
01:36:17,880 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 3: I forget the Gonzales part of that. I just let

2094
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 3: Evan handle that, which I like that stuff. More of that,

2095
01:36:26,560 --> 01:36:32,800
Speaker 3: but the whole notion that the defense, you know, let

2096
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 3: down by the offense, Well, the Patriots started the game,

2097
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,760
Speaker 3: they went three and oh second possession, they went down

2098
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 3: the field and scored a touchdown, goes seven to nothing.

2099
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,559
Speaker 3: The response to that was to allow a fifty six

2100
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:44,519
Speaker 3: yard touchdown pass. So I'm sorry if you're not going

2101
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:48,960
Speaker 3: to blame that on the offense. Okay, now I'm not

2102
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:52,920
Speaker 3: getting into who's that fault. Clearly the fifty six yard touchdown.

2103
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,920
Speaker 3: Gonzales and Dugger both let the guy go. I don't

2104
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 3: know who was at fault. I don't know if it

2105
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,320
Speaker 3: was the call. I think I heard them say something

2106
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:04,000
Speaker 3: about they weren't expecting a deep ball because they had

2107
01:37:04,280 --> 01:37:06,200
Speaker 3: a pressure dialed up. They felt like the ball was

2108
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 3: going to come out quicker than that. They they both

2109
01:37:08,840 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 3: got caught peeking. It happens whatever, but it wasn't like

2110
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 3: to me, there's a difference between a guy running down

2111
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,559
Speaker 3: the sideline with a guy in he's three steps behind

2112
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,599
Speaker 3: and gets beat. Nobody covered him. They both let him

2113
01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:23,240
Speaker 3: go right now. That might have been one hundred percent

2114
01:37:23,240 --> 01:37:25,360
Speaker 3: on Gonzales, might have been one hundred percent on Doug.

2115
01:37:25,479 --> 01:37:26,599
Speaker 2: Was a physical it was mental.

2116
01:37:26,720 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 3: But whatever, It wasn't a guy getting beat. It was

2117
01:37:29,240 --> 01:37:32,760
Speaker 3: someone blowing an assignment. Whoever's fault it was right. So

2118
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:37,400
Speaker 3: I think that's different Dk Metcalf, it's a good player.

2119
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:38,839
Speaker 2: It's a good.

2120
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 3: Player, like you're not. I know that people think that

2121
01:37:42,040 --> 01:37:44,960
Speaker 3: it's Dion Sanders. It's not don't hold him to that standard.

2122
01:37:45,000 --> 01:37:48,200
Speaker 3: It's not fair. It's not fair to Gonzales to say, like, well,

2123
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 3: the other team's got a really good receiver. I'm going

2124
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:52,040
Speaker 3: to expect a zero out of him today.

2125
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:55,880
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen, right Tim our friend from Duncan,

2126
01:37:56,760 --> 01:37:59,720
Speaker 2: he wants to know if he's the only one that

2127
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,280
Speaker 2: thinks that if Drake May had started, we would have

2128
01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 2: won that game, this game on Sunday.

2129
01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 3: Again, I don't know how other people feel.

2130
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,799
Speaker 2: No, well, do you think that if he had started

2131
01:38:12,800 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 2: this game, he went every play?

2132
01:38:14,520 --> 01:38:16,280
Speaker 3: But does every play go the way it was? Do

2133
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 3: they call different plays? What happens if every play unfolds

2134
01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:20,600
Speaker 3: the way it was? I think Drake May turns it

2135
01:38:20,640 --> 01:38:22,680
Speaker 3: over three times. And personally a.

2136
01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:26,439
Speaker 5: Rookie quarterback is a roller coaster anyway, So like, what

2137
01:38:26,520 --> 01:38:27,040
Speaker 5: were the highs?

2138
01:38:27,080 --> 01:38:27,719
Speaker 4: What were the lows?

2139
01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:30,320
Speaker 5: I mean, we all probably say he might have thrown

2140
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:32,160
Speaker 5: the ball deep, he might have made one. He also

2141
01:38:32,240 --> 01:38:34,040
Speaker 5: might have screwed up an easy one or you know.

2142
01:38:34,200 --> 01:38:36,960
Speaker 3: There was one that Evan talked about in thousand percent

2143
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:38,679
Speaker 3: agree with him in the press box at the time

2144
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 3: where he kind of present, kind of broke containment, rolled

2145
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 3: out to his right up toward like the Patriots sideline,

2146
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 3: and he threw one on the run I think, and

2147
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,360
Speaker 3: he threw it about five yards. May probably completes that.

2148
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 3: It's a first down in a low red zone and

2149
01:38:55,000 --> 01:38:56,840
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna get You're probably going to get more

2150
01:38:56,880 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 3: points out of it. Instead they had to kick a

2151
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:02,320
Speaker 3: short field goal. Yeah, but if every play unfolded exactly

2152
01:39:02,360 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 3: the same way. I find it awfully hard to believe

2153
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,719
Speaker 3: that a rookie wouldn't have turned the ball over under

2154
01:39:07,760 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 3: those circumstances.

2155
01:39:09,160 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 7: I would just Mike, you said it perfectly. If Drake

2156
01:39:12,160 --> 01:39:14,720
Speaker 7: May was playing right now, it would be a roller coaster. Well,

2157
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,120
Speaker 7: he'd have They'd have five or six plays that I

2158
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 7: would love to put on the on Twitter and be like,

2159
01:39:19,960 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 7: look at this throw. Also have three picks? Yeah?

2160
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:26,640
Speaker 2: Would he have those picks? But would you also have plays.

2161
01:39:26,320 --> 01:39:28,679
Speaker 3: Right like he might have? You remember the play that

2162
01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:31,519
Speaker 3: that Bressett had to retreat like twenty yards and he

2163
01:39:31,720 --> 01:39:34,760
Speaker 3: just like desperation, threw it off his back foot and

2164
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 3: it floated and Henry caught it while sliding to the ground.

2165
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:38,200
Speaker 2: Right.

2166
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:41,200
Speaker 3: Otherwise it would have been a touchdown. Yeah, might have

2167
01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,360
Speaker 3: been a touchdown if they did the same thing. Yeah,

2168
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:46,800
Speaker 3: might have been. Now he might I'm going to say

2169
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,960
Speaker 3: it would have been a sack because I don't think

2170
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,000
Speaker 3: May would have seen the pressure coming as quickly as

2171
01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,760
Speaker 3: Presette did. Could be again, we don't know.

2172
01:39:53,720 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 5: How about I'll just say this twenty twenty six, Drake

2173
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 5: May definitely would have won that game for them, just

2174
01:39:59,360 --> 01:40:01,320
Speaker 5: a perfect from two years from now.

2175
01:40:01,360 --> 01:40:02,320
Speaker 4: He's got all the experience.

2176
01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:06,000
Speaker 3: Say twenty six, Drake may better have won that game.

2177
01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 3: Otherwise we might be looking for a new guy.

2178
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 7: Perfectly timed and designed leak call on the one to

2179
01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:20,439
Speaker 7: Hunter Henry that absolutely would have been pants off in

2180
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,479
Speaker 7: the press box there were anywhere a touchdown and the

2181
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 7: fact that they just can't block anybody and it took

2182
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,720
Speaker 7: it away from me. It just grinds out.

2183
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:32,040
Speaker 2: But you look at the all twenty two and I

2184
01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,480
Speaker 2: mean Hunters out there and it's nothing.

2185
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:38,600
Speaker 7: But well, if you ask the people on Twitter, the

2186
01:40:38,680 --> 01:40:41,280
Speaker 7: play that has been maybe one of the most indefensible

2187
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:44,160
Speaker 7: plays in football for five years, it's a design flaw

2188
01:40:44,439 --> 01:40:47,519
Speaker 7: in the play. No, they just can't block anybody. Okay,

2189
01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:49,920
Speaker 7: because every single Sunday the Green Bay Packers and the

2190
01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:53,080
Speaker 7: forty nine ers run that play for touchdowns every single week.

2191
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,080
Speaker 7: But they have an offensive line and you don't like

2192
01:40:55,160 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 7: that's the difference. It is awesome because they say, oh,

2193
01:40:58,920 --> 01:41:02,040
Speaker 7: it's it's a design. We shouldn't be asking, you know,

2194
01:41:02,400 --> 01:41:05,519
Speaker 7: the poler to come across and block the guy on

2195
01:41:05,600 --> 01:41:07,920
Speaker 7: the edge. Yeah, and it's like, or how about he

2196
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:11,280
Speaker 7: gets there, like you know, it just I don't understand

2197
01:41:11,320 --> 01:41:13,960
Speaker 7: that because every other team in the league can run

2198
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,120
Speaker 7: that play for big plays every single week, but the

2199
01:41:17,160 --> 01:41:20,240
Speaker 7: Patriots can't run it, So it's Alex Van Pelts fault

2200
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:24,920
Speaker 7: and the play is poorly designed because they can't block it. Like,

2201
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,120
Speaker 7: I just how does that make any sense?

2202
01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:30,719
Speaker 2: El from Wisconsin. Now, I know the stats are similar,

2203
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,639
Speaker 2: but I have a way different feeling about this team

2204
01:41:33,840 --> 01:41:36,200
Speaker 2: versus last year. And I'll tell you why I like

2205
01:41:36,280 --> 01:41:39,080
Speaker 2: this team. Last year, I was done with Bill after

2206
01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,320
Speaker 2: the Patrician decision. I also didn't like pretty much anything

2207
01:41:42,360 --> 01:41:45,160
Speaker 2: about Mac Jones from the moment he was drafted. It

2208
01:41:45,200 --> 01:41:47,960
Speaker 2: wasn't a team I wanted to root for. Now, I

2209
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:49,920
Speaker 2: think there's a chance Thinks can get back to the

2210
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 2: rails and it makes me happy. Secondly, to all the

2211
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 2: people glad May isn't starting, I can't wait to see

2212
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,759
Speaker 2: him in three years when we hopefully have the forty

2213
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,240
Speaker 2: nine ers roster. Yeah, I don't understand.

2214
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,120
Speaker 3: I don't understand any of the last part. The first

2215
01:42:04,160 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 3: part I totally understand. I think it's more likable because

2216
01:42:08,479 --> 01:42:13,439
Speaker 3: I think Mac Jones was not likable. Yeah, I totally

2217
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 3: get that mindset.

2218
01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't feel that way about Mac, but I

2219
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 7: like one of your guys, Jim Murray, that's like his

2220
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 7: big take is that they don't have the grumpy old

2221
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:26,320
Speaker 7: coach and they don't have Mac Jones anymore so just

2222
01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 7: from a fans perspective, the product is just more likable.

2223
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:33,160
Speaker 3: And I can understand. Like, again, if you're telling me

2224
01:42:33,200 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 3: it's a feel, then I agree because I feel the

2225
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,400
Speaker 3: same thing that you guys feel. I mean not telling

2226
01:42:40,439 --> 01:42:42,240
Speaker 3: you that that's right because I agree with you, but

2227
01:42:42,280 --> 01:42:45,559
Speaker 3: I'm saying as long as you're not talking about something tangible,

2228
01:42:46,240 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 3: because it hasn't been all that different, But if you're

2229
01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:51,439
Speaker 3: talking about like I just feel better about watching this

2230
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 3: team because Poudy Mac isn't out there, you know, bitch

2231
01:42:55,800 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 3: into his coach every other game and and Brissets out

2232
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 3: there instead, Like I would agree the fact that to me,

2233
01:43:02,439 --> 01:43:05,680
Speaker 3: the biggest thing is you have the third overall pick, Mike,

2234
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:06,519
Speaker 3: how did you put it?

2235
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:08,320
Speaker 4: Your best club still in the bag.

2236
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 7: Your driver's still in the bag, Cameron.

2237
01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:15,439
Speaker 3: That's huge golf. That's mentally to me that makes me

2238
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 3: thank you. It has me far more engaged in this

2239
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:22,760
Speaker 3: season than I was at this time last year. When

2240
01:43:23,600 --> 01:43:25,599
Speaker 3: you know, it was basically the same. They were one

2241
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:28,519
Speaker 3: and one but kind of done.

2242
01:43:28,600 --> 01:43:35,240
Speaker 2: Did we ever about why when Mac was drafted that

2243
01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,920
Speaker 2: there wasn't any talk about, well, we should probably sit

2244
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:39,759
Speaker 2: him for a little.

2245
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,519
Speaker 3: Bit, because he was deemed to be NFL ready.

2246
01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's a big part of it. That was it.

2247
01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,519
Speaker 3: Plus everybody had seen Cam Newton nfore. Like if this

2248
01:43:49,720 --> 01:43:52,760
Speaker 3: was like, let's let's let's say that we drafted Drake

2249
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 3: Maye next year with the third overall pick and Brissette

2250
01:43:55,000 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 3: plays this whole year, I don't think there'd be as

2251
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 3: many people looking to say, let's be patient. Yeah, because

2252
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,280
Speaker 3: like Cam Newton had played at twenty twenty and everybody

2253
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 3: saw I don't like that.

2254
01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was.

2255
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 7: Still also Bill was here, McDaniels was here. They just

2256
01:44:09,439 --> 01:44:11,839
Speaker 7: spent a bunch of money in free agency on players,

2257
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 7: and they still had some of that dynasty mystique on them.

2258
01:44:16,560 --> 01:44:18,240
Speaker 7: I just feel like the roster was in the better

2259
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 7: spot in general, at the very.

2260
01:44:20,520 --> 01:44:22,479
Speaker 5: Least, we're all fooling ourselves into believing it was in

2261
01:44:22,520 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 5: a better spot.

2262
01:44:23,720 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 3: Well, they they were in a better spot than twenty one.

2263
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:28,280
Speaker 3: They had just gone in that free agent spending spree,

2264
01:44:28,360 --> 01:44:31,320
Speaker 3: which always gives you the immediate bump followed by the

2265
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 3: drop off, and that's exactly what.

2266
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,439
Speaker 2: Happened Johnson in Porters Lake Nova, Scotia. I'm tuning in

2267
01:44:37,520 --> 01:44:39,519
Speaker 2: late to the show, and I'm in agreement with Paul's

2268
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,760
Speaker 2: take of not seeing Drake May right away. I only

2269
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:44,799
Speaker 2: want to see him if the production of the offense

2270
01:44:44,920 --> 01:44:48,080
Speaker 2: drops and becomes hard to watch. Is that that's not

2271
01:44:48,120 --> 01:44:52,320
Speaker 2: what you said, but I take it all with the

2272
01:44:52,400 --> 01:44:55,160
Speaker 2: continued challenges on the old line. Do you see Cold

2273
01:44:55,200 --> 01:44:59,360
Speaker 2: Strange immediately inserted in the starting lineup off the pup?

2274
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:01,080
Speaker 2: Will it take some time?

2275
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,120
Speaker 5: I don't think Michael Trun's been okay, Like it's probably

2276
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:05,600
Speaker 5: been one of their most consistent.

2277
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 4: At this point.

2278
01:45:06,120 --> 01:45:09,000
Speaker 5: I'll take anything, like I'll take anyone back into the mix,

2279
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,160
Speaker 5: like anyone who has some kind of pedigree.

2280
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 2: You know.

2281
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:13,519
Speaker 4: I don't know what Cold Strange is going to be when.

2282
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:15,880
Speaker 5: He comes back, but at this point, you just need

2283
01:45:15,920 --> 01:45:18,879
Speaker 5: bodies along the line. That's that's the biggest concern.

2284
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:22,759
Speaker 7: Yeah, I actually say Jordan, I mean, he's got his issues,

2285
01:45:22,760 --> 01:45:25,400
Speaker 7: like he's a he doesn't have a great anchor, is

2286
01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:28,599
Speaker 7: a little bit pushed around at times. But he's been

2287
01:45:29,400 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 7: pretty solid for a guy that you just signed off

2288
01:45:31,560 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 7: your practice squad, Like you don't really think of much

2289
01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,960
Speaker 7: of those types of guys usually, and he's he's held

2290
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:37,320
Speaker 7: his own.

2291
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 3: The only thing I would say, like, Jordan's not really

2292
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,200
Speaker 3: a practice squad guy. He's a new fangles. He's like

2293
01:45:42,200 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 3: a fifty year guy. Right, yeah, So he's not a

2294
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,920
Speaker 3: guy that you're necessarily developing, right, He's a veteran that

2295
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:48,920
Speaker 3: you're stashed on the five.

2296
01:45:48,840 --> 01:45:52,320
Speaker 2: Years ago he wouldn't be eligible right practice, right, Brendan,

2297
01:45:52,720 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 2: do you think Drake May getting thirty percent of the

2298
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,840
Speaker 2: practice reps is contributing to our poor passing? Attack less

2299
01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:02,080
Speaker 2: reps for Jacoby has to be affecting game day. Do

2300
01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,760
Speaker 2: you think the locker room will eventually get mad that

2301
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,280
Speaker 2: their offense is not ready for game day due to

2302
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:08,240
Speaker 2: splitting reps.

2303
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 3: I don't even know, man, I I can't.

2304
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,080
Speaker 5: I mean, if it's that much of an effect that

2305
01:46:15,479 --> 01:46:17,040
Speaker 5: I just I think it's a good thing. I think

2306
01:46:17,080 --> 01:46:19,240
Speaker 5: the fact that they're still continuing to focus on Drake

2307
01:46:19,320 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 5: May again reference Evan's piece that he wrote, I mean,

2308
01:46:22,720 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 5: he's staying active behind the scenes.

2309
01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:25,960
Speaker 4: That's that's the most important thing.

2310
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,840
Speaker 5: I don't cho Kobe Presett's the veteran and I mean,

2311
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:30,040
Speaker 5: and even you said, I know there's some you know,

2312
01:46:30,160 --> 01:46:32,960
Speaker 5: it's unclear exactly when these thirty percent reps are. But

2313
01:46:33,479 --> 01:46:35,360
Speaker 5: if those are on first and second down days, I

2314
01:46:35,400 --> 01:46:37,519
Speaker 5: don't you know, most of those are gonna be handoffs anyways,

2315
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:41,120
Speaker 5: I don't know. I just I mean, third down, red zone,

2316
01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 5: those from Thursday Friday, those are those are the money

2317
01:46:43,320 --> 01:46:43,800
Speaker 5: down days.

2318
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 4: Those are the gotta have it moments.

2319
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 7: You know, it's it's critinly their base offense stuff, like

2320
01:46:48,280 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 7: they're not they're not doing a whole lot on first

2321
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,000
Speaker 7: and second down that they don't do every single week,

2322
01:46:53,080 --> 01:46:56,360
Speaker 7: Like the game plan stuff, third down red zone. You know,

2323
01:46:56,640 --> 01:47:00,280
Speaker 7: there's gotta have in situations. And like, I'm not saying

2324
01:47:00,280 --> 01:47:03,519
Speaker 7: that Gerrod's lying when he says thirty percent, but if

2325
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:06,519
Speaker 7: it's thirty percent because he took half the reps on

2326
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:08,599
Speaker 7: a Wednesday and then takes like none of the reps

2327
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,200
Speaker 7: on Thursday and Friday, that that sort of thing is

2328
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,000
Speaker 7: a little bit different when it comes to that kind

2329
01:47:13,000 --> 01:47:13,960
Speaker 7: of game plan stuff.

2330
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:15,720
Speaker 3: I think we're caught up in the semantics of it.

2331
01:47:15,720 --> 01:47:19,600
Speaker 2: I agree, let's go to the TPX hotline. Eldred's in

2332
01:47:19,640 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina. What's up, Eldred?

2333
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 9: Hey fellows, tell y'all doing to day?

2334
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:27,360
Speaker 3: Okay, Taylor, hey Evan, love you man.

2335
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 9: I agree with you too.

2336
01:47:28,840 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 16: But I've been staying it what you say.

2337
01:47:30,400 --> 01:47:31,600
Speaker 9: At the beginning of the show.

2338
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:33,880
Speaker 17: I've been staying it for about ten years, right, Paw.

2339
01:47:34,479 --> 01:47:37,840
Speaker 9: Why you let the slowest guy runs the reverse or

2340
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,280
Speaker 9: the receiver go deep on a go route and you got.

2341
01:47:41,200 --> 01:47:42,240
Speaker 16: Some fast guys.

2342
01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 9: I could never understand that.

2343
01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:48,160
Speaker 7: I Eldred, I, for the life of me, cannot figure.

2344
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 2: Out what the element of surprise?

2345
01:47:49,680 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 7: What what is Taekwon Thorton doing here? If it's not

2346
01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,880
Speaker 7: to do stuff like that? Like why is he on

2347
01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:58,040
Speaker 7: the roster if he's not gonna take end a rounds

2348
01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,800
Speaker 7: and run verticals and like that, do that sort of thing.

2349
01:48:01,120 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 7: Otherwise he's just just running wind sprints out there for

2350
01:48:04,360 --> 01:48:05,040
Speaker 7: four quarters.

2351
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 10: It.

2352
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 2: I don't get it, all right, I'll get off fired up.

2353
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:15,040
Speaker 5: I didn't Again, I didn't have a chance to watch

2354
01:48:15,080 --> 01:48:17,200
Speaker 5: the film like I like to do. How what was

2355
01:48:17,240 --> 01:48:19,559
Speaker 5: Techon toward? Like I didn't even clock him once in

2356
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:21,120
Speaker 5: that game other than when he lined up in the

2357
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:22,320
Speaker 5: backfield on that the.

2358
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:27,519
Speaker 2: Eye candy play.

2359
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,479
Speaker 7: I kind of liked it, to be honest with you,

2360
01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,559
Speaker 7: I did it just didn't They didn't block it well

2361
01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 7: on the interior. But you know, by by having taekwon

2362
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:39,760
Speaker 7: there and and it's basically option football at that point,

2363
01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,080
Speaker 7: like old school wing tea stuff. By having him back there,

2364
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,920
Speaker 7: it held the backside of the formation because if if

2365
01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:48,560
Speaker 7: everybody crashes inside, then Jacoby is just gonna flip it

2366
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:50,040
Speaker 7: out to him and he's gonna have nothing but green

2367
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:52,680
Speaker 7: grass out there. So I actually liked the fact that

2368
01:48:52,720 --> 01:48:54,760
Speaker 7: they added that little window dressing in there. They just

2369
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:55,599
Speaker 7: didn't block it well.

2370
01:48:55,880 --> 01:48:58,040
Speaker 5: What but but what what they pull back on thward

2371
01:48:58,120 --> 01:48:59,880
Speaker 5: this week? Or like where I need I mean again,

2372
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:02,000
Speaker 5: I frame a reference.

2373
01:49:02,439 --> 01:49:05,040
Speaker 7: Just a couple of times I thought he had a

2374
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 7: decent release of the line of scrimmage, but for the

2375
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:09,640
Speaker 7: most part he got blanketed.

2376
01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Nixon, New Hampshire, what's up? Nick? Nick? Nick? In New Hampshire,

2377
01:49:18,240 --> 01:49:25,880
Speaker 2: Nick going once twice, three times? You're gone? Matt Is

2378
01:49:25,960 --> 01:49:28,479
Speaker 2: in Des Moines, what's up, Matt?

2379
01:49:28,840 --> 01:49:33,440
Speaker 9: Hey? I just wanted to double check on the overtime.

2380
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:35,960
Speaker 9: On the last drive we had a fourth and one

2381
01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:38,600
Speaker 9: were any of these surprised that we didn't go for

2382
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:42,240
Speaker 9: it because we hadn't stopped the other team in the

2383
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:45,640
Speaker 9: last drives. And so I'm just serious, if that was

2384
01:49:45,720 --> 01:49:48,400
Speaker 9: kind of a surprise to you guys, if they didn't

2385
01:49:48,439 --> 01:49:49,400
Speaker 9: go for it, I'll take it off.

2386
01:49:49,880 --> 01:49:50,759
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Matt.

2387
01:49:51,720 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 4: I wasn't really that surprised.

2388
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:55,720
Speaker 3: I wasn't surprised. I think that that's a call in

2389
01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 3: overtime that basically you're you're making the game come down

2390
01:49:58,880 --> 01:50:01,320
Speaker 3: to one play, get it, and you still have a shot.

2391
01:50:01,400 --> 01:50:04,400
Speaker 3: You miss it, you probably ended the game from your

2392
01:50:04,439 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 3: own thirty nine yard line. And by the way, I

2393
01:50:07,200 --> 01:50:12,280
Speaker 3: would say it worked, you got a good punt, you

2394
01:50:12,320 --> 01:50:14,600
Speaker 3: get them at the sixteen yard line, you should be

2395
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,720
Speaker 3: able to get the ball back right, you know, And

2396
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:20,360
Speaker 3: instead they went right down the field, down the field.

2397
01:50:21,360 --> 01:50:23,840
Speaker 7: Yeah, it just I think nine you're basically in the

2398
01:50:23,880 --> 01:50:24,799
Speaker 7: field goal range.

2399
01:50:25,080 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

2400
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 2: It's a one play game. It's a one yeah, you know.

2401
01:50:29,479 --> 01:50:31,559
Speaker 3: And I would say, you know, back and I know

2402
01:50:31,640 --> 01:50:34,040
Speaker 3: Evan gave a lot of reasons why he liked the

2403
01:50:34,520 --> 01:50:37,320
Speaker 3: Taekwon throwton in the backfield. I just think it's your

2404
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:41,439
Speaker 3: identity is something that you've said ad nauseum since you

2405
01:50:41,479 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 3: took over of what you want to be. So is

2406
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,360
Speaker 3: that the time that we're going to say, well, we're

2407
01:50:46,360 --> 01:50:48,320
Speaker 3: going to see if we can run this play and

2408
01:50:48,720 --> 01:50:51,840
Speaker 3: hold the backside end with the thread of an option

2409
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,960
Speaker 3: pitch or do you just want to line up and

2410
01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:56,320
Speaker 3: put you you know what's on the table and tell

2411
01:50:56,360 --> 01:50:58,680
Speaker 3: everybody you can't stop us because this is the kind

2412
01:50:58,720 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 3: of team that we're going to be. And by the way,

2413
01:51:01,200 --> 01:51:04,320
Speaker 3: that was pretty successful throughout the day. Lining up and

2414
01:51:04,360 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 3: running the ball was pretty successful.

2415
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:06,479
Speaker 7: But they.

2416
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 3: Didn't even line up properly. It really annoyed that play

2417
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:12,920
Speaker 3: annoyed me in a lot of ways.

2418
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,479
Speaker 7: But they really did just run it right at him,

2419
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:17,600
Speaker 7: Like it wasn't like it was like some dipsy do

2420
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:20,880
Speaker 7: run where they like had Jacoby running like a triple

2421
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,400
Speaker 7: option out on.

2422
01:51:22,120 --> 01:51:24,200
Speaker 3: The I know, but like it was it was a

2423
01:51:24,240 --> 01:51:26,880
Speaker 3: different formation than that they've seen. They didn't even line

2424
01:51:26,960 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 3: up right, like they screwed it up.

2425
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:29,960
Speaker 7: That part of it's fair.

2426
01:51:30,479 --> 01:51:34,320
Speaker 3: I just why we split in the atom, just line

2427
01:51:34,400 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 3: up and get a yard.

2428
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:39,559
Speaker 2: If they could call it your playpole one cloud of you.

2429
01:51:43,080 --> 01:51:43,599
Speaker 4: On one.

2430
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:46,840
Speaker 7: I definitely remember Dante Scarneki has say more than once,

2431
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:49,040
Speaker 7: if you can't pick up a yard for the game,

2432
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:51,880
Speaker 7: then you're not very good on offense like that. You know,

2433
01:51:51,960 --> 01:51:53,840
Speaker 7: that's that was his whole thing, But.

2434
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:57,639
Speaker 2: That's the mentality. You have to have hat on a hat,

2435
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 2: right on a hat. I'm better than you.

2436
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,519
Speaker 3: They ran gap, but just I was disappointed. I was

2437
01:52:05,520 --> 01:52:07,479
Speaker 3: disappointed with that play.

2438
01:52:07,160 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 2: Jacket and Abba. What if the Patriots had signed quarterback

2439
01:52:11,080 --> 01:52:14,639
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield last offseason and then drafted a left tackle

2440
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:18,320
Speaker 2: in the first round. Wouldn't wouldn't he said, the Patriots

2441
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,320
Speaker 2: be a vastly better team right now.

2442
01:52:20,439 --> 01:52:22,519
Speaker 7: He was not available, So I don't know why we're

2443
01:52:22,600 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 7: talking about that. Let's say, let's say they have gears

2444
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,280
Speaker 7: all right now, It's okay, you can It's not your fault.

2445
01:52:28,640 --> 01:52:31,639
Speaker 3: Would they be Cousins? Would they be a vastly better

2446
01:52:31,680 --> 01:52:35,000
Speaker 3: team if they had Baker Mayfield or Kirk Cousins? I

2447
01:52:35,000 --> 01:52:38,439
Speaker 3: don't think so, and and a real I don't think so.

2448
01:52:39,640 --> 01:52:41,680
Speaker 3: I think he'd be better. I think though, both of

2449
01:52:41,720 --> 01:52:44,720
Speaker 3: those guys are better than Jacoby Brissett. And obviously, if

2450
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:49,120
Speaker 3: you had Joe Alt instead of Vederian Lowell playing left tackle,

2451
01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:50,800
Speaker 3: your line would be better. I don't think your team

2452
01:52:50,840 --> 01:52:54,040
Speaker 3: would be vastly superior. I think you'd still have everything

2453
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:57,920
Speaker 3: else that you have. Rick, what do you think? No, No,

2454
01:52:57,960 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 3: I was gonna say.

2455
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:02,680
Speaker 12: Saree we should have signed him or no this this

2456
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:05,200
Speaker 12: year you had a chance to like that then everything

2457
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:06,120
Speaker 12: you said.

2458
01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:07,559
Speaker 3: Both of those guys were free agents.

2459
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,080
Speaker 5: No, I just I mean what tickled me was just

2460
01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:12,920
Speaker 5: I don't know tickle me was that should have been

2461
01:53:12,920 --> 01:53:13,920
Speaker 5: the move for Bill last year?

2462
01:53:14,000 --> 01:53:14,160
Speaker 2: Right?

2463
01:53:14,200 --> 01:53:14,320
Speaker 9: Like?

2464
01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,280
Speaker 5: I mean, did you think you were gonna salvage mac

2465
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,800
Speaker 5: like based on how things were going after twenty twenty two? Like,

2466
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:21,559
Speaker 5: I know that that to me him or I think.

2467
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:24,559
Speaker 2: The bigger point from Jack and and Abba is are

2468
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:28,360
Speaker 2: we are we a quarterback and a left tackle away

2469
01:53:28,360 --> 01:53:29,759
Speaker 2: from being vastly better?

2470
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 3: If your quarterback is really good, maybe you could say that.

2471
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 3: I don't think Kirk Cousins and Baker Mayfield are in

2472
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 3: that stratosphere. Okay, I think they're both middlers. Okay, now

2473
01:53:43,720 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 3: you want to give me Chris Godwin and Mike Evans.

2474
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:49,120
Speaker 3: With Baker Mayfield, that's a different story. But he's still

2475
01:53:49,120 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 3: throwing to Damario Douglas. Taypwon Thornton and kJ Osborne.

2476
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:58,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Rick and Newburyport. Thirty years ago today, Drew Bledsoe

2477
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:02,240
Speaker 2: had his shoulder separated by Ken Norton Junior in San Francisco,

2478
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:07,000
Speaker 2: and on that same day, Patrick Mahomes was born. So, okay,

2479
01:54:07,479 --> 01:54:12,040
Speaker 2: you don't say you never learned anything thirty years ago?

2480
01:54:12,640 --> 01:54:13,160
Speaker 4: Ninety four?

2481
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:13,920
Speaker 3: How much?

2482
01:54:14,280 --> 01:54:15,639
Speaker 4: How much time do you miss on that one?

2483
01:54:16,200 --> 01:54:16,519
Speaker 2: Oh?

2484
01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:20,440
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, it was ninety four, No, ninety three, except.

2485
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:21,280
Speaker 4: Thirty years right.

2486
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:23,880
Speaker 7: I was very confused. I thought we were talking about

2487
01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 7: ninety one five he did what?

2488
01:54:27,240 --> 01:54:28,280
Speaker 4: So it was twenty nine?

2489
01:54:30,040 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 2: Nicholas in Oslo, Norway, Norway.

2490
01:54:32,440 --> 01:54:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm a little upset with myself. I don't remember.

2491
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,760
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think?

2492
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:42,120
Speaker 3: I thought he hurt his shoulder in ninety five.

2493
01:54:43,880 --> 01:54:47,760
Speaker 2: Thirty years ago. Today would be ninety four. It would

2494
01:54:47,760 --> 01:54:48,600
Speaker 2: have to be ninety four.

2495
01:54:49,040 --> 01:54:50,920
Speaker 3: I don't think he got hurt in ninety four.

2496
01:54:51,200 --> 01:54:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe Brick and Newburyport. Check your check your math.

2497
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:58,000
Speaker 3: I think he played all sixteen games in ninety four

2498
01:54:58,080 --> 01:54:59,480
Speaker 3: through for four thousand.

2499
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:03,440
Speaker 2: Five thirty I could be watching. What am I doing about?

2500
01:55:03,680 --> 01:55:06,680
Speaker 3: He threw about five yards.

2501
01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:09,120
Speaker 2: Valuable all twenty two times going down the drain.

2502
01:55:09,480 --> 01:55:11,560
Speaker 3: Poor Mike. He can't even watch I couldn't watch it.

2503
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:13,480
Speaker 7: I'll get situated.

2504
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:18,200
Speaker 5: He couldn't be No, No, I like to watch it,

2505
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:20,280
Speaker 5: but I'm not as good like Tom Paul can watch

2506
01:55:20,320 --> 01:55:22,320
Speaker 5: the whole game and he remembers everything like I watch it.

2507
01:55:22,320 --> 01:55:24,720
Speaker 4: It's all one ear out graphicmer.

2508
01:55:24,760 --> 01:55:28,240
Speaker 2: I don't know why. I get you have a photographic memory.

2509
01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 3: I don't think so, No, but maybe I don't know.

2510
01:55:31,000 --> 01:55:33,400
Speaker 3: Maybe I do. I don't really know the definition of that.

2511
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,320
Speaker 2: Like you can look at something and remember it.

2512
01:55:35,200 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 3: But like everything.

2513
01:55:36,400 --> 01:55:39,360
Speaker 7: No, but he's watching the this is not a shot,

2514
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:41,480
Speaker 7: like it's just a different way of watching the game.

2515
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:44,760
Speaker 7: Like he that you're great at at seeing the game.

2516
01:55:45,200 --> 01:55:50,640
Speaker 7: I'm great at seeing like leak right, like you know.

2517
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 3: And then that's being great at something and not caring

2518
01:55:53,360 --> 01:55:55,040
Speaker 3: about it. I would fall into the latter end.

2519
01:55:55,120 --> 01:56:00,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, but that's like what that's why I types of things. Yeah,

2520
01:56:00,600 --> 01:56:02,960
Speaker 7: I think you're leading. No, you're in the same category

2521
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:03,360
Speaker 7: as him.

2522
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:04,760
Speaker 2: I don't see it like he does.

2523
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:06,840
Speaker 7: No, But when we're on the road together, like you'll

2524
01:56:06,840 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 7: point out things that like my brain is like lost

2525
01:56:09,800 --> 01:56:12,680
Speaker 7: in like what freaking run scheme they're running? And like

2526
01:56:12,880 --> 01:56:13,320
Speaker 7: you'll just.

2527
01:56:15,640 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm.

2528
01:56:19,560 --> 01:56:19,640
Speaker 9: Like.

2529
01:56:19,720 --> 01:56:22,200
Speaker 3: I'm but I you know, I do it out of love.

2530
01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 3: He is, he's interested in the schematics of of of plays.

2531
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: And I'm just telling you that guy's a good player

2532
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,320
Speaker 3: and he won that battle, he won that matchup or whatever,

2533
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:32,960
Speaker 3: and I want this guy on my team because he's

2534
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:35,920
Speaker 3: better than that guy. And I'm just telling you what worked.

2535
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:40,960
Speaker 3: And Evan's telling you why, Yeah, I like that, So

2536
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:42,960
Speaker 3: I mean there's a difference. There is a difference. I

2537
01:56:43,000 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 3: need the.

2538
01:56:43,360 --> 01:56:45,720
Speaker 7: Paul like Trags was that for me at the beginning,

2539
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:49,000
Speaker 7: and someone that that brings me back to see the

2540
01:56:49,040 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 7: forest for the trees is important because when you're in

2541
01:56:51,080 --> 01:56:52,800
Speaker 7: the weeds, you're in you lose it.

2542
01:56:52,840 --> 01:56:57,240
Speaker 5: There's no All twenty two version of Paul with penalties

2543
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:58,920
Speaker 5: and situational.

2544
01:56:58,280 --> 01:57:01,160
Speaker 4: Football like those are your like you're good at those.

2545
01:57:01,280 --> 01:57:03,520
Speaker 3: Like I didn't like the decision to decline that penalty

2546
01:57:03,520 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 3: and set up a third and six instead of a

2547
01:57:05,000 --> 01:57:08,120
Speaker 3: second and thirteen, Like I do the math in my

2548
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 3: head what that one?

2549
01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 7: Like that it was announced as a third and eight

2550
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:14,800
Speaker 7: and Paul's yelling.

2551
01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:16,280
Speaker 16: And six.

2552
01:57:18,280 --> 01:57:20,640
Speaker 3: That don't you think there's a difference there like third

2553
01:57:20,680 --> 01:57:27,320
Speaker 3: and six is very manageable. Third, I'm like, right, and

2554
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:28,800
Speaker 3: then they were going to kick it. Like to me,

2555
01:57:28,840 --> 01:57:31,400
Speaker 3: it's just like, I'll tell you what else bothered me

2556
01:57:31,440 --> 01:57:33,760
Speaker 3: about that? And this is not this is not about

2557
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:35,840
Speaker 3: the Patriots. This is about the officials, which is my

2558
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,640
Speaker 3: favorite thing to make fun of. Why are they just

2559
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:41,960
Speaker 3: automatically saying that they took the penalty like you got

2560
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 3: to ask right, right, because then they came back on

2561
01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:49,840
Speaker 3: later they had to respot the ball and then no, no, no,

2562
01:57:50,160 --> 01:57:53,360
Speaker 3: the Patriots have opted to decline the penalty. Well maybe

2563
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,080
Speaker 3: ask next next time? Will you like it?

2564
01:57:55,120 --> 01:57:57,400
Speaker 4: When you see the reflicate the sidelines, you're like, they

2565
01:57:57,600 --> 01:57:58,280
Speaker 4: give that little.

2566
01:57:58,400 --> 01:58:01,440
Speaker 3: I don't mind if you do that, but don't don't

2567
01:58:01,520 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 3: announce the penalty. Mark the yardage off. Then go check

2568
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:07,200
Speaker 3: with the coach and see if he wants it, which

2569
01:58:07,200 --> 01:58:07,839
Speaker 3: is what happened.

2570
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:11,800
Speaker 2: All right, one more call than a show. It's Melvin

2571
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 2: and Texas.

2572
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:12,720
Speaker 3: What's up?

2573
01:58:12,760 --> 01:58:13,160
Speaker 2: Melvin?

2574
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 16: Hey, so correct me if I'm wrong, because I'm out

2575
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:19,160
Speaker 16: of market, so I didn't need the game, but I

2576
01:58:19,200 --> 01:58:22,080
Speaker 16: heard the caster say that Baker had lined up, and

2577
01:58:22,120 --> 01:58:25,520
Speaker 16: I was just wondering, how did Baker create any separation

2578
01:58:25,560 --> 01:58:28,160
Speaker 16: when he was in, and also, how did Kayden Wallace

2579
01:58:28,280 --> 01:58:30,160
Speaker 16: do a little bit of time that he was in?

2580
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,000
Speaker 2: Okay, thanks Melvin Javon.

2581
01:58:33,080 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 7: Baker played like a small handful of snaps that I

2582
01:58:35,800 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 7: would not. I think he ran like two routes.

2583
01:58:38,120 --> 01:58:39,880
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think they ran the ball.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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01:58:40,480 --> 01:58:43,720
Speaker 3: I think he played six plays and I think most

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01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:44,400
Speaker 3: of those were running.

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Speaker 2: My my take with Wallace is I thought he did

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01:58:47,160 --> 01:58:50,040
Speaker 2: pretty well when he was in as that extra lineman.

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01:58:51,040 --> 01:58:51,800
Speaker 3: What five plays?

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01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:53,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he does he did well, and but I

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01:58:53,800 --> 01:58:56,400
Speaker 2: don't think he did well when he had to come

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01:58:56,480 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 2: in after Low came out.

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Speaker 7: So they, uh, they clearly trust him to run block.

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01:59:02,280 --> 01:59:05,120
Speaker 7: That's why he's the tackle eligible or they called it

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01:59:05,160 --> 01:59:10,360
Speaker 7: a muscle tight end, muscle tight, muscle tight, but they

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Speaker 7: don't trust him.

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Speaker 3: Heart was the muscle tight end.

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01:59:13,160 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 2: But why can't we just create it an eligible tackle.

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01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:17,480
Speaker 2: That's what he wants, muscle tight.

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01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:20,720
Speaker 7: I heard muscle tight end and I liked it that.

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01:59:21,240 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 3: But he didn't. Yeah, I mean part of it was

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01:59:23,160 --> 01:59:24,920
Speaker 3: the way the game unfolded. They didn't get to do

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01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,000
Speaker 3: it as much as they did. He played eleven plays,

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01:59:28,040 --> 01:59:30,000
Speaker 3: but some of those were as a left tackle. Yea,

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01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:32,879
Speaker 3: so maybe eight yeah.

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Speaker 4: Them Thursday night.

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01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,600
Speaker 2: I bet this this could be his coming out party

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01:59:37,680 --> 01:59:41,600
Speaker 2: for it coming out not all right, that's gonna be

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01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:44,600
Speaker 2: it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll be back

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Speaker 2: tomorrow at noon, and we'll have to do picks tomorrow

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01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 2: because of the Thursday game and the team traveling. Uh

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01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 2: so we won't care.

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01:59:53,480 --> 01:59:55,200
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it a little earlier in the show

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01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,560
Speaker 3: that we normally do because yeah, Evan and Fred need

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01:59:57,600 --> 01:59:59,000
Speaker 3: to to jet.

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Speaker 2: Catch twenty two this four four to six today, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: four to six today.

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Speaker 3: Don't go nowhere, right, keep the stream going, especially you

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02:00:08,840 --> 02:00:10,720
Speaker 3: ball knowers. All right, stick around.

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