WEBVTT - Hour 3 - Mike DiGiovanna, Albert Breer

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>Sports Radio Final Hour.

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<v Speaker 2>In this Tuesday check in with the Dodgers, what's next

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<v Speaker 2>in the sho Heyo Tani story. Also, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>new kickoff rule and the NFL just adopted it. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk to Albert Breer. He's at the owner's meetings in Orlando.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk to him about that and the growing not concern,

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<v Speaker 2>but kind of growing consensus that the first four picks

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<v Speaker 2>in the draft are going to be quarterbacks and that

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<v Speaker 2>means JJ McCarthy is moving on up inside the top five.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just Mike Tannenbaum, former Jets GM, he works

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<v Speaker 2>for the Mothership. He was talking about that JJ McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>He could see him going number two overall, talk about

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<v Speaker 2>a meteoric rise, and we didn't see it because if

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<v Speaker 2>you watch Michigan football, it's not like his arm was

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<v Speaker 2>on display constantly. But it feels like everybody's fallen in

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<v Speaker 2>love with the intangibles with JJ McCarthy. So, Mike Tannenbaum,

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<v Speaker 2>he also had the Cardinals trading the fourth pick, or

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to trade Kyler Murray to Minnesota and

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<v Speaker 2>then they were gonna take I guess JJ McCarthy. So

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna they're gonna with the fourth pick, they take

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<v Speaker 2>JJ McCarthy and then they trade Kyler Murray to Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all right, that's fun. Sure gonna get some attention

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<v Speaker 2>for that. H eight seven seven three DP show email

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<v Speaker 2>address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a DP show Good morning,

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<v Speaker 2>those watching on Peacock and those listening nearly over four

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<v Speaker 2>hundred cities around America carrying the program. By the way,

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<v Speaker 2>the Jets owner Woody Johnson feels sorry for Zach Wilson

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<v Speaker 2>and had this to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel badly about Zach in some ways because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>last year would have been a great He would have

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<v Speaker 3>been a first time he could just sit back and

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<v Speaker 3>watch a master at work, right, and he's never had that.

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<v Speaker 3>He's been on the fire from day one. And I

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<v Speaker 3>think that's what he needs. He needs to be in

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<v Speaker 3>a place where he can observe for a while, and

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<v Speaker 3>he's got the skill. He can do everything. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>reason we drafted about number two.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, but you're not going to keep him so

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<v Speaker 2>he can learn behind the master. This year, you've given

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<v Speaker 2>him the permission to go seek a trade. Why not

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<v Speaker 2>hold on to him. I mean, he's on a rookie deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Let him learn from the master here instead of letting

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<v Speaker 2>him go.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>So, Mike Tomlin talked about Russell Wilson, his new starting quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>We're not resistant the competition, but as I've mentioned several

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<v Speaker 5>times of late, I just think it's appropriate to establish

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<v Speaker 5>positioning as we get into this thing. And the term

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<v Speaker 5>that I've used is Russell has pole position. And why

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<v Speaker 5>do I use that term because during this time where

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<v Speaker 5>we are not formally working, man, I just think it's

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<v Speaker 5>beneficial experience in the National Football League, And so that's

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<v Speaker 5>why I say he has pole position.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 5>It just creates a synergy that I think is good

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<v Speaker 5>for this time of year. What is time to compete.

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<v Speaker 5>We get in training camp like settings and going to

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<v Speaker 5>presease the stadiums and so forth. Obviously Justin will be

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<v Speaker 5>given an opportunity to show his capabilities.

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<v Speaker 2>He always sounds serious no matter what he's doing. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't imagine him ordering dinner. He probably sounds just like that. Alight,

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<v Speaker 2>time talking about show. Hey o Tani La Times sportswriter

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<v Speaker 2>covering the Dodgers. Mike d Giovanna joining us on the program,

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<v Speaker 2>was at the press conference yesterday. How would you summarize

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<v Speaker 2>what you saw what you heard yesterday? Yeah, it was.

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<v Speaker 6>Really interesting, and honestly, I was surprised that shohe said

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<v Speaker 6>as much as he did. You know, so often in

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<v Speaker 6>these situations we get the, oh, there's an ongoing investigation

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<v Speaker 6>I can't comment on and we're going to let the

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<v Speaker 6>authorities handle it and then we'll talk afterwards. And he

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<v Speaker 6>came right out on the offensive. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 6>very assertive, very forceful in his denial of any speculation

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<v Speaker 6>that he has bet on sports, that he's been on baseball,

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<v Speaker 6>and he really turned the tables on his now former

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<v Speaker 6>interpreter and former confidant and friend basically accused Epai of

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<v Speaker 6>being a liar and a thief. So was it was

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<v Speaker 6>very interesting. The tone of the room was very interesting,

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<v Speaker 6>a little different than a lot of the show Hey

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<v Speaker 6>with Tani press conferences were used to but he went

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<v Speaker 6>on the attack and it was very clear.

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<v Speaker 2>What wasn't answered yesterday.

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<v Speaker 6>To me, the two biggest questions, although biggest one is

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<v Speaker 6>on obvious. It's like, how if indeed he payments to

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<v Speaker 6>how siphoned off millions of dollars you know from show

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<v Speaker 6>Hay's accounts, How did this happen without you know, his

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<v Speaker 6>the people who handle his finances and show Hey himself

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<v Speaker 6>without knowing that. And to me, the other issue is,

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<v Speaker 6>you know how show Hay was so much more than

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<v Speaker 6>an interpreter. I'm sorry, eBay was so much more than

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<v Speaker 6>an interpreter for show Hey. He was around him almost

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<v Speaker 6>every day of the year, all day, you know. And uh,

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<v Speaker 6>how does a guy supposedly have such a gambling problem

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<v Speaker 6>that he's racked up millions of debt in debt without

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<v Speaker 6>anybody knowing? And you know, even if show Hey emerges

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<v Speaker 6>from this scandal unscathed, his reputation and the game intact.

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<v Speaker 6>I think, you know, he's gonna have to take a

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<v Speaker 6>closer look at the people in his inner circle, the

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<v Speaker 6>people handling his affairs, because they put a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>trust in Epay to do a lot. He was a

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<v Speaker 6>liaison between you know, the Dodgers, the Angels, all those

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<v Speaker 6>yaters and Show Hey, between his agents at CIA and

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<v Speaker 6>Show Hey, between the media and Show Hey. And ton't

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<v Speaker 6>trust that much in one guy, and to have him

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<v Speaker 6>betray you like he supposedly did, it's pretty disturbing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could ask one question, if it's to show

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<v Speaker 2>Hey or Epey.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh boy, well, all the questions I just mentioned, you

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<v Speaker 6>know to Epay, Uh, you know, how why did you

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<v Speaker 6>do this? You know, why did you think you're going

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<v Speaker 6>to get away with this? And you know what was

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<v Speaker 6>he thinking? You know, I mean, this guy was attached.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I hate to use a term, but you know,

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<v Speaker 6>kind of a bit of a gravy train, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>for the for the next ten years. This guy's I'm

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<v Speaker 6>sure Show Hey made a lot more on tips and

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<v Speaker 6>just you know, just from being around Show Hey, Epay.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm sorry keep mixing these two up. Then he didn't say,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know he's got, you know, a front row

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<v Speaker 6>seat to one of the most amazing stories in the game,

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<v Speaker 6>and to think you would just throw that all the

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<v Speaker 6>way is stunning. And to show, Hey, you know, how

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<v Speaker 6>how did this happen? You know, under your watch? How

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<v Speaker 6>did this happen right under your nose? And you know

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<v Speaker 6>you could tell in the press conference he felt very betrayed,

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, there was a there was a tone

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<v Speaker 6>in his voice. I'm not going to sit here and

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<v Speaker 6>pretend I know Show Hey that well, but I've been

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<v Speaker 6>in dozens of interviews with this guy over the last

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<v Speaker 6>six and a half years, and I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>he's usually very composed, very measured in his comments, and

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<v Speaker 6>I felt a forcefulness and an assertiveness yesterday in his

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<v Speaker 6>voice that was maybe like one octum below anger that

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<v Speaker 6>we don't normally hear from Show Hey. And I think

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<v Speaker 6>that's why he sound sounded, at least to his teammates

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<v Speaker 6>and Dodgers, and I think if he saw the press conference,

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<v Speaker 6>he sounded pretty convincing.

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<v Speaker 2>I was curious about this. I don't know if anybody

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<v Speaker 2>brought this up to show Hey, but here's the interpreter

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<v Speaker 2>who has lied about working for the Red Sox and

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<v Speaker 2>the Yankees, Like Shohy has to know that this guy

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<v Speaker 2>has said that he worked for the Yankees in the

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<v Speaker 2>Red Sox, but he knows that he didn't work for

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<v Speaker 2>the Yankees and the Red Sox. Like there's certain things

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<v Speaker 2>that you would I would think would be normal, like wait,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't work for the Yankees or why are you

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<v Speaker 2>saying that? And then you're going to trust him being

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<v Speaker 2>basically your valet. I mean, I don't know, it just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of stood out. It was just weird.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it goes to the vetting process, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, the Dodgers don't have a great track record,

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<v Speaker 6>let's face it. You know with Trevor Bauer over the

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<v Speaker 6>last few years. And I'm not saying you know they

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<v Speaker 6>I mean they did background checks on epay, they talked

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<v Speaker 6>to him after the signing, and they met with him

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<v Speaker 6>and you know, from what I've heard, the agent really

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<v Speaker 6>vouched for Epey. And but yeah, there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 6>there's a vetting process that obviously didn't take place here.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean some of these things are in the really

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<v Speaker 6>short bio that's been in the Angels media guy for

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<v Speaker 6>several years, and it's you know, it's hard to pin

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<v Speaker 6>the blame on, you know, the Angels PR Department for

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<v Speaker 6>not you know, doing background checks on but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 6>very odd. You know, why would you lie about going

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<v Speaker 6>to UC Riverside. I went to Harvard, I went to

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<v Speaker 6>the graduated magnicrom Cloudy, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>But it is a smaller lie though, Mike, Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 6>And the whole, the whole. The bigger issue is like

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<v Speaker 6>when you're lining up stories when Epe you know, changed

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<v Speaker 6>his original story that he told the ESPN one hundred

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<v Speaker 6>and eighty degrees to the next day, and then you

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<v Speaker 6>layer on top of that these little FIBs. His credibility

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<v Speaker 6>is shot, you know, I don't know, it's hard to

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<v Speaker 6>know what to believe out of this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>What's next for the LA Times on this story.

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<v Speaker 6>We can't tell you, Okay, you know, we're we're digging

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<v Speaker 6>as hard as we can. We're trying to fill in

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<v Speaker 6>some of the gaps on Epay's resume, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>trying to you know, keep have a bead on the

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<v Speaker 6>There's three different investigations now, and the.

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<v Speaker 2>MLB is still in the States.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know for sure, we you know, we have

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<v Speaker 6>had reporters at his parents' house. We're told, in no

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<v Speaker 6>uncertain terms to go away. Uh. I've asked many of

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<v Speaker 6>the Japanese reporters and they have not. He has not

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<v Speaker 6>been seen in the States. He's going to have to

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<v Speaker 6>emerge at some point because there's some federal investigators that

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<v Speaker 6>have probably have a lot of questions for him. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, he's in a bit, He's in a heap

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<v Speaker 6>of trouble. Let's let's face it. If these allegations against

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<v Speaker 6>him are true, you know, he could be looking at

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<v Speaker 6>jail time. Maybe not. You know a lot of a

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<v Speaker 6>lot of these situations, they're they're going after the bookies,

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<v Speaker 6>not so much the betters, but the other aspect.

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<v Speaker 2>But he's got to pay Otani back.

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<v Speaker 6>Doesn't stealing money from Otani?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Restitution?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, If that allegation is true, that's a problem for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike, good to talk to you. Great stuff by the

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<v Speaker 2>LA Times. Thanks for joining us, Thanks for having me

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<v Speaker 2>all right, Mike d. Gi Ivanna, LA Times sportswriter covering

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<v Speaker 2>the Dodgers in Major League Baseball. And there's still questions

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<v Speaker 2>there is he going to pay back Otani? He can't

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<v Speaker 2>pay back four and a half million dollars. And you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, when we had David Perdamon, who covers gambling

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<v Speaker 2>for ESPN, and he says that to lose that amount

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<v Speaker 2>of money four and a half million dollars, the interpreter

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<v Speaker 2>had to have bet close to eighty million dollars. So

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<v Speaker 2>he's betting all the time because you're going to win

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<v Speaker 2>some of those bets. He's saying, I don't think that

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<v Speaker 2>this guy was just bet like four bets and he lost,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, four and a half million dollars. He was

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<v Speaker 2>betting on all these other sporting events. He was betting

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. That's what makes it even more improbable that

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<v Speaker 2>shohe had no idea. You sit down and watch a

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<v Speaker 2>sporting event with this guy, does he act differently? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>how much money? How much money was he betting on

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<v Speaker 2>these individual games? That's I mean, I'm curious about a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these things.

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<v Speaker 6>Here.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me see Chris in La Hi, Chris, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind today?

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<v Speaker 4>THO Mornings, Dan, I wanted to give you a former

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<v Speaker 4>defense attorney's perspective. And the reporter that was on is

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<v Speaker 4>really good reporters said what I was some of what

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to say in that I was shocked

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<v Speaker 4>by Otani's detail in a lot of the areas because

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<v Speaker 4>we did not get the general gets an ongoing investigator

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<v Speaker 4>type situation, And that's important because all of these statements

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<v Speaker 4>that he said couldn't be used against them if there

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<v Speaker 4>ever is a criminal action brought. So that was very

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<v Speaker 4>telling to me, which makes me think they must have

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<v Speaker 4>some other evidence, like text messages or emails showing that

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<v Speaker 4>he did not know what was going on. And the

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<v Speaker 4>local attorney that represents the bookmaker said Otani did not

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<v Speaker 4>know anything about the betting, so that's interesting. And one

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<v Speaker 4>last point I want to make about the vetting process.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's more of a situation like Kobe having

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<v Speaker 4>his own trainer. The I think the Dodgers took the

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<v Speaker 4>fact that Otani liked the interpreter and he was with

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<v Speaker 4>them for the Angels, and they probably did not do

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<v Speaker 4>the same betting they would have done had he been

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<v Speaker 4>applying for positions in front office or something like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that's a little different than the normal

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<v Speaker 4>situation of the betting. So it's going to be very

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<v Speaker 4>interesting to me. But the fact that he went to

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<v Speaker 4>details and we didn't get the details about the financial

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<v Speaker 4>aspect about how it happened, and that's probably just to

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<v Speaker 4>protect himself. They may be even trying to find out

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<v Speaker 4>who else was involved, how did he get access to

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<v Speaker 4>the money. So I understand why he didn't go into

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<v Speaker 4>detail in that, but the fact that he came out

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<v Speaker 4>unequivocally and said I don't know this person, I never

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<v Speaker 4>bet that's huge because all it takes is one little text,

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<v Speaker 4>measures or something showing that show hey did know, and

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<v Speaker 4>then all that's blown out of the water. So to me,

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<v Speaker 4>that was the most telling thing. So we'll see how

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<v Speaker 4>it unfolds.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Chris, thank you for the information. Jeff in

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<v Speaker 2>Kansas City, Hi, Jeff, what's on your mind? ADB?

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<v Speaker 7>I called him because the gambling thing isn't just sports betting.

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<v Speaker 7>It's gone into other areas of our lives. I mean,

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<v Speaker 7>if you follow what people are doing on Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 7>just the average daily investor of buying these puts and

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<v Speaker 7>calls and options, I mean, there are some young kids

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<v Speaker 7>out there just blowing their money, and I think collectively

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<v Speaker 7>it's probably got something to do with COVID and this

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<v Speaker 7>collective PTSD we're suffering from where people are willing to

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<v Speaker 7>take a lot more chances and be risky about things.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, maybe I don't rule it out. It's just if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a gambler and you get desperate or you

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<v Speaker 2>know somebody. Once again, I only speak from experience, and

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<v Speaker 2>I know that feeling and you think you're gonna win,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you don't win, and now all of a

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<v Speaker 2>sudden you don't have the money, and now you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>double your bet and you're gonna win on Monday Night football.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that feeling. And everybody thinks that they know

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<v Speaker 2>more than the other guy, You're never ever going to

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<v Speaker 2>beat them. I always rented money, That's what I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm renting this. And then I just stopped cold turkey

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<v Speaker 2>and I was up and I took the money and

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<v Speaker 2>I paid off school loans and I bought my mam

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<v Speaker 2>a dishwasher, and that was it done. Didn't think about

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<v Speaker 2>gambling again. Even when we're in Vegas at the Super

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<v Speaker 2>Bowl and we're at a bar and I can walk across,

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<v Speaker 2>I can walk thirty feet in place a bet, and

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<v Speaker 2>I had no interest. We're watching all these games, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and PAULI goes, you're gonna go bet on Iowa basketball

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<v Speaker 2>I go, no that. Oh, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>start gambling again. I'm going to bet on Caitlyn Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, no, not gonna happen. Yeah, Paulie, little symbolism there.

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<v Speaker 8>You bought a dishwasher. You're cleansing your soul, You're cleaning

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<v Speaker 8>up your act. There's a lot of watch your money,

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<v Speaker 8>washing your money, mother mother issues, mother issues.

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<v Speaker 9>I just going to you a little bit there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you might be correct on all of those things.

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<v Speaker 8>The dishwasher would represent something that's a good feeling. You

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<v Speaker 8>had a bad feeling from gambling. You wanted to take

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<v Speaker 8>that winning and do something good with it before you

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<v Speaker 8>ended it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I didn't want to wash dishes anymore. And

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<v Speaker 2>your laziness, that's what it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Fair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, I guess if you know, therapists could probably

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<v Speaker 2>have a field day with some of these things. AnyWho,

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<v Speaker 2>Albert Murria join us from the NFL owners meetings.

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<v Speaker 8>How they have problems?

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<v Speaker 2>They that's the league.

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<v Speaker 6>This got a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I brought up. Imagine the three commissioners.

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<v Speaker 2>Adam Silver's dealing with a prop bet gambling problem with

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<v Speaker 2>one of his players. Rob Manfred's got the face of

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<v Speaker 2>his sport involved in something and the commissioner is trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the hip drop tackle in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 2>Just wondering about this with sho hey Otani and his interpreter,

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<v Speaker 2>At what point do you think he's desperate enough that

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<v Speaker 2>he bet on baseball, Because if you're losing four and

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<v Speaker 2>a half million dollars. I think that you would probably go, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>how can I make this money up? I don't have

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<v Speaker 2>any scruples. I mean, I got it. I mean Pete

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<v Speaker 2>Rose was betting on baseball and games that he was managing,

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<v Speaker 2>because then he had a better chance of affecting the

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<v Speaker 2>outcome or knowing the outcome. What would have stopped this

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<v Speaker 2>guy from asking Otani when he's with the Angels, hey, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>or he's going to listen to everything. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>find out everything. He's there in the locker room. You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to find out if somebody isn't healthy, or a

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<v Speaker 2>pitcher isn't, you know, feeling well. But he's going to

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<v Speaker 2>go out in the mound. And if Otani doesn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know that he's gambling with his money, how's he going

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<v Speaker 2>to know that you're taking that inside information? Desperate people

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<v Speaker 2>desperate things. Well, so there's a lot more attached to this, obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>Albert Breer Monday Morning, Quarterback Man, doesn't seem that long

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<v Speaker 2>ago that we had a chance to talk. So help

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<v Speaker 2>me understand the new kickoff rule? And uh did it

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<v Speaker 2>passed with flying colors?

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 12>So twenty nine yes is three nose the nose were

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<v Speaker 12>God San Francisco, Green Bay in Vegas were the three Nose.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, I think this is sort of the

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<v Speaker 12>outgrowth of a couple of things Dan. The first is,

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<v Speaker 12>you know, obviously the touchback rule last year for the

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<v Speaker 12>most part, eliminated the kickoff and it flipped where it

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<v Speaker 12>had in the past been eighty percent return twenty percent touchback,

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<v Speaker 12>it had gone to eighty percent eighty percent touchback last year,

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<v Speaker 12>and so they wanted to find a way the special

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<v Speaker 12>teams coaches did to help put it back in the game.

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<v Speaker 12>So over the last two years they've worked on it

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<v Speaker 12>and crafted the idea of creating something that would put

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<v Speaker 12>more returns in the game and maybe bringing to life

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<v Speaker 12>the next Devin Hester, the next Dante Hall.

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<v Speaker 9>And so it's the modification of the XFL role.

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<v Speaker 12>The idea overarching is to take speed and space out

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<v Speaker 12>of the play to slow down the collisions. And they

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<v Speaker 12>think this addresses the injury issue that the touchback will

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<v Speaker 12>address last year and will add returns back into football.

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<v Speaker 12>I mean, the ideas and their belief is this is

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<v Speaker 12>going to add about five hundred plays, five hundred competitive

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<v Speaker 12>plays to the game next year, which I think is

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<v Speaker 12>a win for everybody, even if it is going to

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<v Speaker 12>look a little weird and different.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, are there still going to be touchbacks?

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<v Speaker 9>So it's interesting the way the rule sets up.

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<v Speaker 12>So if you have what's called the landing zone from

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<v Speaker 12>the goal line to the twenty, if you kick it

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<v Speaker 12>into the landing zone and it bounces and it's not

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<v Speaker 12>field and go into the end zone, is a touchback

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<v Speaker 12>that goes to the twenty.

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<v Speaker 9>If the kicker kicks it.

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<v Speaker 12>Into the end zone, the ball comes all the way

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<v Speaker 12>out to the thirty five. Okay, if you land short

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<v Speaker 12>of the landing zone, then and it bounces before it hit,

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<v Speaker 12>it touches, it bounces before it gets to the twenty,

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<v Speaker 12>then the ball comes all the way out to the forties.

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<v Speaker 12>So essentially you're penalizing the kicker for not putting it

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<v Speaker 12>in that landing zone inside the twenty but short of

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<v Speaker 12>the goal line, and you're penalizing the return team if

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<v Speaker 12>the ball lands in the landing zone and then bounces

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<v Speaker 12>into the end zone.

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<v Speaker 9>I think I covered all. It's gonna take some good

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<v Speaker 9>of use to for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like a Ted talks. You know, you need

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<v Speaker 2>you need a power point, you need charge up there

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<v Speaker 2>all right, the famous, the infamous hip drop tackle. How

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<v Speaker 2>did we get to this point that we now have

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of it in the sport.

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<v Speaker 12>It's it's an outgrowth, outgrowth of Seahawks tackling, which is

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<v Speaker 12>it's called Seahawk tackling because Pete Carroll kind of gave

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<v Speaker 12>rise to the idea of this like wrap and roll technique.

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<v Speaker 12>And you know, really that's being employed at all levels

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<v Speaker 12>of football now where.

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<v Speaker 9>You see kids doing it.

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<v Speaker 12>You see high schoolers doing it, you see college kids

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<v Speaker 12>doing it, and obviously the pros. And it really has

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<v Speaker 12>helped to take the head out of tackling, and it's

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<v Speaker 12>helped with concussion.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 12>It's the downside of it is the hip drop, which

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<v Speaker 12>is when you swing around and.

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<v Speaker 9>I can give you a little bit of a visual.

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<v Speaker 9>You swing around, right, Uh, you swing around and you

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<v Speaker 9>wrap your.

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<v Speaker 2>Somebody in the room just grab an owner.

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<v Speaker 9>Sure, there are actually a couple of guys over here

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<v Speaker 9>I would like.

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<v Speaker 2>To tackle, but not Jay Glazier. Don't don't tackle Glazier.

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<v Speaker 9>No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm not challenging Glazier to

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<v Speaker 9>one of those. But like so basically, like that what happens.

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<v Speaker 12>What happens with seaw tackling is you wrap and you roll,

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<v Speaker 12>and so if you if people listening can envision it,

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<v Speaker 12>it's you're wrapping your arms around the guy and then

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<v Speaker 12>you're using your weight to pull the guy down. And

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<v Speaker 12>what's happened is it's some almost like a like a

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<v Speaker 12>horse collar where a guy's feet get caught and pulled down.

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<v Speaker 12>And so you know, it's unfortunate because again it's an

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<v Speaker 12>unintended consequence of a change to football that really has

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<v Speaker 12>made a positive difference. And I think my concern would be, okay,

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<v Speaker 12>so they're gonna have to work around this. Defense player

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<v Speaker 12>is gonna have to work around this. So there's probably

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<v Speaker 12>gonna be another unintended consequence somewhere right, Like it's a

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<v Speaker 12>violent game, so is the dog chasing its tail here.

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<v Speaker 12>But I do understand why they did it, because it

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<v Speaker 12>was the injury rate with the play was so much

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<v Speaker 12>higher than other plays. And it's gonna take some adjusting

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<v Speaker 12>for defensive players for sure. And it sounds like at

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<v Speaker 12>first at least they're probably gonna have to officiate it

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<v Speaker 12>through fines rather than flags, but they're gonna give guys

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<v Speaker 12>some runway to get used to it. They're gonna dish

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<v Speaker 12>out some vines. Then I think by the time we

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<v Speaker 12>get to the middle of the year next year, they're

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<v Speaker 12>probably flagging it more often if they still see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Would Mike Jones have been flagged in the Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 2>with the tack law Kevin Dyson.

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<v Speaker 12>That's a good question. I have to go back and

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<v Speaker 12>look at that one. The goal line play, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>the Super Bowl two thousand, Yeah, Rams Titans. Yeah, maybe

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<v Speaker 12>I have to go back and go back. To be

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<v Speaker 12>honest with you, there are all these different elements to it,

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<v Speaker 12>which I have no idea how the reps are going

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<v Speaker 12>to officiate exactly and full speed because I can't even

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<v Speaker 12>like go through my head and like think of all

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<v Speaker 12>the steps here as I sit.

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<v Speaker 9>So, yeah, I think there's definitely gonna be some complications.

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<v Speaker 9>I would that that's an interesting one though. I'll definitely

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<v Speaker 9>go back.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you looking at the video?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, it would be classic. He wraps Dicon around the

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.399
<v Speaker 8>waist Mike Jones and spins him and pulls him to

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<v Speaker 8>the ground his body.

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<v Speaker 9>So does he swivel around though that's like the.

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<v Speaker 8>There's possible swiveling swivel because That's the thing is like

0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 8>if you swivel and then like it's like basically.

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<v Speaker 12>Taking your feet off the ground, right, Like if you

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<v Speaker 12>swivel and kind of like try to like get the

0:24:58.000 --> 0:24:59.960
<v Speaker 12>guy to carry you, like, that's when it's a lead.

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<v Speaker 12>So if that's what he did, then y s be

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<v Speaker 12>illegal and to be first, Yep, it would, and then

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<v Speaker 12>the current Warner story might be a little different and.

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<v Speaker 9>Be a super Bowl champion.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah yeah, I mean on time down to the one

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<v Speaker 12>on time down with Eddie George in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 2>Roughing the passer. Uh, when will we have replay? Like

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<v Speaker 2>what brings about replay on roughing the passer?

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<v Speaker 12>It has to be it has to be very clear,

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<v Speaker 12>and it has to be cut in dry situations. And

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<v Speaker 12>so I think what's going to govern this? And I've

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<v Speaker 12>always been a proponent of like the idea of a

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<v Speaker 12>sky judge, right, which I think that they should empower

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 12>an official and put them upstairs and have him use

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<v Speaker 12>the benefit of all of the crystal clear HD angles

0:25:41.880 --> 0:25:43.400
<v Speaker 12>that we all have the benefit of home at home,

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:47.000
<v Speaker 12>benefit of at home. I think it's patently insane that

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<v Speaker 12>all of us have that benefit. But the people who

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<v Speaker 12>are in charge of the game on the field don't.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think there's another step in that direction, and

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<v Speaker 12>what will govern it Dan is that they won't allow

0:25:58.000 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 12>you to change the call after I think it's the

0:25:59.720 --> 0:26:02.480
<v Speaker 12>twenty second cut off on the play clock, right, so

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 12>once the play clock gets to twenty seconds, then you

0:26:05.080 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 12>can't change it. So it almost by definition has to

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.240
<v Speaker 12>be obvious, right you have to go in and see

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.640
<v Speaker 12>it like right away.

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<v Speaker 9>Or it or or you won't be able to go

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<v Speaker 9>in and change the call in the field.

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<v Speaker 12>So I think I think it's an effective way of

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<v Speaker 12>taking a play out, taking bad calls out that I

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<v Speaker 12>think have frustrate every one of us, and hopefully, hopefully

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<v Speaker 12>it's you know, another step towards a really efficient sky

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<v Speaker 12>judge system, which they don't want to call it the

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 12>sky judge, they want to call it replay assists. But

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<v Speaker 12>you know, I think a step in the direction that

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of coaches and people in.

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<v Speaker 9>The league have wanted them to go in in along

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<v Speaker 9>prolong time.

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<v Speaker 2>He's the Monday morning quarterback Albert Brier joining us from

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 2>the NFL owners meetings. You guys all get together, the

0:26:45.080 --> 0:26:48.400
<v Speaker 2>owners are there, media is there, and everybody is chopping

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:53.080
<v Speaker 2>things up, talking about things, rumors, speculation, and we have

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about this top of the draft. Why do you

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<v Speaker 2>think there's a real good chance the first four picks

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<v Speaker 2>will be quarterback?

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<v Speaker 12>You either think there's a good chance the first three

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:08.159
<v Speaker 12>sit there and take quarterbacks. And then there's a handful

0:27:08.200 --> 0:27:09.439
<v Speaker 12>of teams that I think are going to look at

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<v Speaker 12>trading up, and the Cardinals I think will take a

0:27:11.960 --> 0:27:18.040
<v Speaker 12>serious look at trading down. I am of the Bears

0:27:18.080 --> 0:27:21.560
<v Speaker 12>are taking Caleb Williams. I think something would have to

0:27:21.600 --> 0:27:23.359
<v Speaker 12>happen for them not to say Kalb at this point.

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<v Speaker 12>At number two, I think the likelihood is still Jayden

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<v Speaker 12>Daniels from LSU. Now I think at three there's a

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<v Speaker 12>little bit more of a possibility than a two of

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<v Speaker 12>a trade. I think New England's looking at this and saying,

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<v Speaker 12>all right, like, if the right quarterback falls us, we

0:27:40.200 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 12>take them. If the one one we like goes to

0:27:44.960 --> 0:27:47.440
<v Speaker 12>and then we don't like the guy at three quite

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<v Speaker 12>as much, would they look at trading down.

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<v Speaker 9>I think they would consider that.

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<v Speaker 12>I still think I think it's probably more likely they

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<v Speaker 12>take quarterback, but I don't think the idea of trading

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<v Speaker 12>down is out of the picture.

0:27:56.680 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 9>For them at all.

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<v Speaker 12>And if it goes one, two, three quarterbacks, like let's

0:27:59.720 --> 0:28:03.480
<v Speaker 12>say it's sixty forty seventy thirty right now, that the

0:28:03.520 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 12>three teams at the top stick and take quarterbacks, well

0:28:06.240 --> 0:28:08.440
<v Speaker 12>then you've got teams that have investigated trading up and

0:28:08.480 --> 0:28:11.199
<v Speaker 12>the Giants, the Raiders, the Vikings, and I think the

0:28:11.200 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 12>Broncos are lurking as a dark horse, like four teams

0:28:14.880 --> 0:28:18.439
<v Speaker 12>that could be in the market to move up, and

0:28:18.480 --> 0:28:21.479
<v Speaker 12>the Cardinals sitting there at four with a real chance

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<v Speaker 12>to turn that pick into a lot more picks. And

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<v Speaker 12>so I think for the first time ever, we could

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<v Speaker 12>wind up having four quarterbacks going one, two, three, four,

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:32.600
<v Speaker 12>which would also mean that JJ McCarthy has moved into

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<v Speaker 12>that top tier quarterbacks where I think for the last

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<v Speaker 12>couple of months.

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<v Speaker 9>Kayleb Williams, straight Man Jade Daniels have.

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<v Speaker 2>Been good to talk to you. Thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you're busy, you got it, Thanks man, Albert Breer,

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.160
<v Speaker 2>the Monday Morning quarterback and some interesting things there. Yeah,

0:28:48.240 --> 0:28:53.080
<v Speaker 2>the possibility of four quarterbacks, bang bang bang bang. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine with the new kickoff rule. It gets better

0:28:56.280 --> 0:28:59.640
<v Speaker 2>than a touchback, yep, Like you can't be like, oh,

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:03.520
<v Speaker 2>that's well, you know, what's silly that there are no kickoffs.

0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:07.280
<v Speaker 2>Now what's next is how do you get the punt

0:29:07.480 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 2>out of football? Because there's a lot of you know,

0:29:10.400 --> 0:29:13.840
<v Speaker 2>guys are building up forty fifty yards of speed they're

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:17.800
<v Speaker 2>running down, and a lot of injuries on that play.

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:19.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you could ever get rid of

0:29:19.600 --> 0:29:26.240
<v Speaker 2>the punt. Luke and Charlotte, Hi, Luke, what's on your mind? Think?

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<v Speaker 6>Guys?

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<v Speaker 2>I was just sitting here wondering. I was wondering last

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<v Speaker 2>year or around this time why C. J.

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<v Speaker 4>Stroud was dropping.

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<v Speaker 7>And this year I'm wondering what teams possibly see in

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:39.960
<v Speaker 7>JJ McCarthy that they.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't see in let alone Penix.

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 4>But I guess if they have injury concerns, what they

0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 4>don't see in bo Nix, who's more accurate, has more

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.080
<v Speaker 4>arm talent, and is more athletic.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's kind of a new flavor here

0:29:56.720 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 2>with JJ McCarthy, Like we love potential. Bo Knicks had

0:30:01.400 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>felt like stayed too long in college football, even though

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>he was wonderful last year. Pennix with the injuries, but

0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 2>it just feels like the unknown of JJ McCarthy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>a great quarterback, top five pick, perhaps playing in a

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 2>run dominant offense, and he could be a first round,

0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:23.600
<v Speaker 2>top five pick. I got it. I didn't see it.

0:30:23.760 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 2>But then all I can go by is my source

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.880
<v Speaker 2>who was there at the combine and said, you know what,

0:30:31.520 --> 0:30:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you can't help, but like what you see. But I

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.719
<v Speaker 2>said I didn't see enough, and he said that is

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:41.959
<v Speaker 2>the key. And sometimes people fall in love with what

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:45.400
<v Speaker 2>they didn't see instead of what they do see. And

0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:49.080
<v Speaker 2>that might be the case, but they talk about now

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 2>he's not an athletic quarterback. Jaden Daniels is an athletic quarterback.

0:30:54.320 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 2>Bo Knicks is an athletic quarterback. Jaden Daniels in one

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>season ran for more yards than J. J. McCarthy did

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>in his career at Michigan. I believe, but it almost

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:08.360
<v Speaker 2>feels like like he's almost like a Russell Wilson type

0:31:08.400 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>that you know he can extend plays, make a play,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>But I just don't know this athleticism. Bonix has athleticism.

0:31:18.440 --> 0:31:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Michael Pennix is not a runner. Caleb is you know

0:31:22.680 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>Mahomesyan where extending a play, running first down, those kind

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 2>of things. Jaden Daniels is a flat out athlete there.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Paul, you're not saying JJ McCarthy's sneaky athletic, are

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<v Speaker 8>you You're about to go there?

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<v Speaker 2>I would say he's probably. I don't think he's athletic,

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:42.040
<v Speaker 2>like Drake may is more athletic than he is.

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<v Speaker 8>He's more of a rollout, keep the play alive quarterback

0:31:44.200 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 8>than a running quarterback. Yeah, much more like Aaron Rodgers.

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.800
<v Speaker 8>Tries not to run, but he keeps it alive behind

0:31:49.800 --> 0:31:51.800
<v Speaker 8>the line of scrimmage. Aaron Rodgers Cobb.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, the most talented quarterback, Aaron Rodgers is the

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:01.880
<v Speaker 2>Kyrie Irving of quarterbacks there. Michael PENNOCKX.

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<v Speaker 8>It seems like tries not to run, but when he

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 8>does it's really good.

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he ran that much.

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<v Speaker 8>A couple of fourth downs, Cole.

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<v Speaker 2>Those pigs exact knee surgeries that'd make me not one

0:32:11.840 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 2>to run. Or if I'm running, I got to make

0:32:14.280 --> 0:32:17.720
<v Speaker 2>sure I'm faster than a few of the guys over there. Yes, Mark,

0:32:18.120 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>do you remember.

0:32:18.720 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 12>Seeing a quarterback jump like this and you didn't understand

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:25.120
<v Speaker 12>why everybody was falling over a quarterback that made a

0:32:25.120 --> 0:32:25.720
<v Speaker 12>big jump.

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, you had that crazy draft when Christian Ponder went up.

0:32:31.960 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, everybody was just drafted a quarterback. It's almost like,

0:32:35.800 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're it's a game of musical chairs, and

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody wants to have a seat, so they're like, uh,

0:32:40.680 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>we'll take him, We'll take that guy. Well, wait a minute,

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you got a first round great. Don't know. I don't

0:32:45.720 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 2>we need a quarterback. But I think teams are smarter

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>now with getting the quarterback that works for them, instead

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>of making the quarterback fit into your system. You're kind

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of adopting that quarterback system. You know, the Bears are

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:03.680
<v Speaker 2>going to adopt k Williams' system there. You've got to

0:33:03.720 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 2>incorporate Jaden Daniels and his talents. It used to be

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 2>we brought you in and then you had to play

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 2>in accordance to what our offense was. That's not the

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 2>case anymore. Yeah, Paul, I was.

0:33:14.000 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 8>Thinking about this. I'm gonna say I have a question

0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.360
<v Speaker 8>for you. It catch a little snarky, little dark.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'll save it all right, Let's take a break,

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen of the top sixteen seeds, including all four number ones,

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<v Speaker 2>three number twos, and all four number threes, moved on

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<v Speaker 2>to the sweet sixteen the Women's NCAA Tournament. Great programming

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<v Speaker 2>last night you had yukon with Paige Becker's she put

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<v Speaker 2>up thirty two, and then you had Caitlin Clark at Iowa,

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.440
<v Speaker 2>she put up thirty two. And then my favorite, not

0:33:59.560 --> 0:34:02.760
<v Speaker 2>my face, but boy, she'd getting close. Is Juju Watkins

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.880
<v Speaker 2>at USC. She's a lot of fun, but man, is

0:34:06.920 --> 0:34:09.120
<v Speaker 2>she going to be a handful the next couple of

0:34:09.200 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>years in college basketball. I think the only thing that

0:34:12.600 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 2>would stop her from approaching Page or Caitlin Clark's all

0:34:16.960 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>time record is if she would somehow leave early and

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 2>go to the WNBA. Can can you leave after? Can

0:34:24.120 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>you leave even after your freshman year? Now, I don't

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>know what the nil is and that might keep her

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 2>at USC, but I'm wondering is there any restriction on

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>going into the WNBA. Has somebody left after like their

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 2>sophomore year and maybe I'm not aware of it, And

0:34:40.960 --> 0:34:43.200
<v Speaker 2>this is part of the beauty of the women's tournament

0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:47.320
<v Speaker 2>because the storylines stay and get bigger because the players

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:48.280
<v Speaker 2>will stay longer.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, Paul, As of right now, the WNBA eligibility rules,

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 8>you have to be twenty two or you have to

0:34:54.320 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 8>have you have to have used all your college eligibility

0:34:56.880 --> 0:34:57.560
<v Speaker 8>in four years.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so not even juniors. You can't go to your

0:34:59.719 --> 0:35:02.759
<v Speaker 2>junior Yeah. Now we might be in four years from

0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>now or three years from now. Look at Juju watkins

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:09.359
<v Speaker 2>career at USC put it up there with the great

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.759
<v Speaker 2>Cheryl Miller. Now are they going to build a team

0:35:11.800 --> 0:35:14.440
<v Speaker 2>around her? You know, will they be you know, competing

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:17.040
<v Speaker 2>for national championship? Well, here you are in the sweet sixteen.

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<v Speaker 2>If you get a chance, watcher, because it's it's an

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<v Speaker 2>athletic display. She's fun and uh man, she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be tough, tough for people to defend one on one,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's what happens, you know, like it's a boxing

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<v Speaker 2>one for you know, some of these players, certainly Caitlyn Clark.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that's when you rely on your teammates. If

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<v Speaker 2>and I would do that with Iowa, I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, everybody else, you beat us, or you say

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<v Speaker 2>to Caitlyn Clark. All right, you get your points, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to shut down everybody else. You almost have to

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<v Speaker 2>decide between the two, and that's really hard because there's

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<v Speaker 2>some shooters. The number of great shooters in women's basketball

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<v Speaker 2>is it shouldn't be surprising, but it is. Like you'll

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<v Speaker 2>see that they shoot deep and they shoot with form,

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<v Speaker 2>and uh yeah, there's a seismic shift. And wait until

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<v Speaker 2>the fallout from Caitlin Clark happens in like five years

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<v Speaker 2>from now, seven years from now. Yeah, Pauline.

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<v Speaker 8>By the way, though, the only downside last night, I

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<v Speaker 8>wonder what the executives who ran the final four and

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<v Speaker 8>we're thinking when Iowa was down in the second half

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<v Speaker 8>and then maybe out of the tournament early, like they're

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<v Speaker 8>banking on Clark being in the final four or you.

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<v Speaker 2>Wouldn't think West Virginia would bounce them. No, but I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I think it was.

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<v Speaker 8>I think it was tied in the fourth quarter at

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<v Speaker 8>one point two.

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<v Speaker 2>Minutes left, two minutes. Yeah, yeah, it was awesome. Then

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<v Speaker 2>the refs decided to give the game. Oh whatever, did

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<v Speaker 2>you see that crazy stat about the Lakers with free

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<v Speaker 2>throws like it is? Let me see if I have

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<v Speaker 2>this right, This is crazy, all right. Since the beginning

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<v Speaker 2>of the twenty twenty two to twenty three seas and

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<v Speaker 2>the Lakers have shot over one thousand more free throws

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<v Speaker 2>than their opponents. This season, They've taken four hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>twenty more free throws than opposing teams.

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<v Speaker 11>Stall the day STANDAA day STATAA day Stannata day.

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<v Speaker 2>of the Dan Patrick Show. Also the uh is it

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<v Speaker 2>Dietia Fair at Syracuse? Is that how you pronounce her name?

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<v Speaker 2>She was awesome last night. What a handle? So I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's third on the all time scoring list. She

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<v Speaker 2>had twenty last night, so she ended up just over

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<v Speaker 2>thirty four hundred points and she's third all time leading scorer.

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<v Speaker 2>But her handle awesome. Yeah, Okay, you had an NFL question, Pauline.

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<v Speaker 8>I've been thinking about this. If you watch the Bears coverage,

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<v Speaker 8>there's lots of stories that they've interviewed Kayleb Williams. They

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<v Speaker 8>took him out to dinner, he's can't everything says they're

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<v Speaker 8>going to take him. Albert Breer is all but reporting

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<v Speaker 8>they're going to take him, but nobody's reporting that they're

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<v Speaker 8>going to take him. The Bears haven't given that out yet.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you think that the NFL off the record quietly

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<v Speaker 8>would encourage the Bears to hold onto that nugget as

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<v Speaker 8>long as they can, to save it as close as

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<v Speaker 8>they can to the draft, to provide more draft coverage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, okay, I think I think they've done that.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, other people I brought that up before, Like, no,

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<v Speaker 8>the NFL would not stick their head into that.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems like a naive right, yeah. Yeah, Because you

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<v Speaker 2>want to have the build up to the draft.

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<v Speaker 8>You would think that the Bears would announce as fast

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<v Speaker 8>as possible to declare it and say this is our guy.

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<v Speaker 8>If you're not going to trade, and you're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>But what benefit does that local perception that we have

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<v Speaker 2>our guy?

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<v Speaker 8>We have there's no questions about our guy, I think

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<v Speaker 8>when you know, other teams have had the jersey made

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<v Speaker 8>up a month before, two months before. Instead, we're taking

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<v Speaker 8>him and it looks good at the locals. There's no question.

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<v Speaker 8>Because the Bears can't say a week after the left, well,

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<v Speaker 8>we had no questions it was gonna take calebe.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh so you want the media to not second guess you,

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<v Speaker 2>So then you're gonna because they would never do that

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<v Speaker 2>in Chicago, even if you announced that you're taking him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what would happen. We are taking Caleb Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh why would you do that? Now nobody's going to

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<v Speaker 2>trade up, but now they know what you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>like the strategy here, right? You can't win this day

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<v Speaker 2>in sports history just a couple.

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<v Speaker 8>Nineteen eighty six, Dan Neil Broughton Minnesota north Stars, which

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<v Speaker 8>are still the north Stars, became the first US born

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<v Speaker 8>player to score one hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Points in a season.

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<v Speaker 8>And this is a fun one. The National Labor Relations

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<v Speaker 8>Board ruled that college football players at Northwestern could unionize.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing ever came Mmmm. Nineteen seventy nine, biggest college basketball

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<v Speaker 2>game in history. Magic Johnson beats Larry Bird seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>sixty four for the n CUAA champions.

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<v Speaker 9>What did they hype that up? A little too much?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Todd? Whatever happened to those players? You were

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<v Speaker 2>just kidding?

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<v Speaker 9>There was just being facetious. Are Magic Bird? That's pretty big?

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<v Speaker 2>Crazy?

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<v Speaker 9>Can't hype that enough?

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<v Speaker 2>You're crazy, Todd? What'd you learn today?

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<v Speaker 8>In his earlier days while calling the NCAA tournament, Iron

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<v Speaker 8>Eagle foun himself monitoring scores of other games and how.

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<v Speaker 9>Was negatively affecting his brackets.

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<v Speaker 2>Seat O'Connor, what did you learn today, Iron Eagle, Ian

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<v Speaker 2>Eigel Either way, it's good. Yeah, he's a lot of fun,

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<v Speaker 2>very very good. Marvin, would you learn today?

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<v Speaker 9>We all believe Otani except for Fritzi.

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<v Speaker 2>What a liar?

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<v Speaker 6>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Paul, what do you What did you learn today? Fritzy?

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<v Speaker 8>I just found if there's NIT games tonight Georgia, Ohio

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<v Speaker 8>State Cincinnati at your Indiana State squad.

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