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Visit marks Panneth dot com. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: Now let's head right over to the First Word Breaking 11 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: news desk for today's afternoon call, and here's Bill Maloney. 12 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Charlie MANUS averages are quiet today, with the 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: Dow currently down fifteen points, sps are down to point, 14 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: NAZAC is higher by three, the small cap six hundred 15 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: gains four points, and the US ten yield at one 16 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: point five percent. STP sector leaders included real estate, energy, 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: and telecom, while consumer staples and healthcare led to the downside. Doubt. 18 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Transports outperform rise one point three percent, as airlines gain 19 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 1: and as a botech's climb fifteen and the vix is 20 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 1: a little changed. DALLA leaders included IBM, American Express and 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: Nike Retailers, Home Depot and Walmart fell one percent. Western 22 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: Digital searched as much as fourteen percent after raising Q 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: one views. Nintendo searched as much as thirty percent on 24 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: news the Super Mario mobile game is coming to the iPhone. 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 1: Whole Foods fell as much as seven point two percent 26 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: after spouts, Farmers Market cut its use, and HD supply 27 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 1: fell twelve percent after its results after the Bell Tonight 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: look for earning story HeLa Packard Enterprise and Variant Systems 29 00:01:42,360 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: live from the first Breaking news desk on Bill Maloney. Charlotte, 30 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: all right, thank you very much, Bill Maloney, and to 31 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: hear live breaking news over your Bloomberg type squaw guess 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: you guess Q you a w K on your terminal. 33 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: I'm Charlie Pelof. That's the bloom Bird business splash you're 34 00:01:59,400 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: listening to. Taking Stock with Kathleen on Bloomberg Radio. Cutthroat competition, 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: falling food prices. All of these are hitting some of 36 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: the biggest names in the grocery business, including today Whole 37 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: Foods markets questions about its expansion plan and also the 38 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,839 Speaker 1: share price down a dollar sixty nine cents, the share 39 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: to nine dollars and one cent after Sprouts Farmers Market, 40 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: competing specialty foods retailer, reduced its same store sales guidance, 41 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: making investors wondering about what's going on. A Whole food 42 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: joining us now to dive into this is our Bloomberg 43 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 1: News reporter Craig Jemona Craig, Welcome to the show. Thanks 44 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. So, first of all, put this 45 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: in context at a time when Whole Foods has announced 46 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 1: expansion plans. You want a terrific story starting in Chicago. 47 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,639 Speaker 1: Just just set the stage with that, what's happening there 48 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: and why. It just personifies illustrates what's going on in 49 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 1: the terms of the Whole Foods challenge. So there's been 50 00:02:56,720 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: questions for a while about whether or not Whole Foods 51 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: can never get to twelve stores. That was the number 52 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: that John Mackie, the founder, put out there a couple 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: of years back, and there's just a lot of people 54 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: that have thought for a while that that's an aggressive 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: target because is there really room for that many high 56 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: end stores. So, you know, we used an analyst note 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: talking about a store outside of Chicago that was next 58 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: to a dress barn and a shoe carnival, and just 59 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: questioning whether this was sort of emblematic of is this 60 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: the right place for a Whole Foods. You know, they 61 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: do well in Brooklyn. The end of the store here 62 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: near our office in Midtown East in New York City 63 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 1: is always packed. All the ones in New York City, 64 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: from what I can tell, are packed. But as they 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,959 Speaker 1: expanded to other parts of the country, they've sort of 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: run into trouble. Now they run into trouble because there 67 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: are copycats or because their prices are demonstrably higher than 68 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: the competition. Both both, you know, the copycats have I 69 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: think put a spotlight on the fact that their prices 70 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: are higher. So for years, Whole Foods created the organic 71 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 1: food market in this country. They built it up and 72 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: for years the margins were soaring. Obviously, Walmart and Kroger 73 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: saw this and said, well, we can sell organic food too, 74 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: and we can do it cheaper. So now people are saying, 75 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm not gonna pay twenty send premium 76 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: that Whole Foods. I'm gonna go to Kroger by private 77 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: label stuff. Maybe I'll go to the Farmers Market a 78 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: little bit. There's just other places to get organic food now, 79 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: and it's really hurt Whole Foods. So what do you 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 1: do if your Whole Foods? Because I couldn't read a 81 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: few more everybody's follow the lead and and um my 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: neighborhood Westside Market. You know, you look at the last 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 1: year the number of stores like that of all kinds 84 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: who carry grass fed beef, who carry not just cage 85 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: free eggs, but you know, free rowing, pasture raised, it's 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: all kinds of product. It's a really upward sloping right. 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: There were years where that Whole Foods was the only 88 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 1: place to get that kind of thing. Now it's ubiquitous 89 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 1: and so people and it's cheaper at other places. So 90 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: the thing that the big thing they're doing is this 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: new chain called three sixty five by Whole Foods. It's 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: kind of targeted at millennials. The stories are cheaper to build, 93 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: their smaller, cheaper to operate. They've been gushing about the 94 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: economics of that store model. Is only two open so far, 95 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: one in l A, one in Oregon. Another one is coming, 96 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: i believe next week in Washington State and in Bellevue 97 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,719 Speaker 1: and your Seattle so that's the thing they've hit on 98 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: that they think it's working. So far, haven't said much 99 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: about the results. Were expecting that November when they were report. 100 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 1: But maybe they can get to twelve hundred by doing 101 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: six d three sixty five and six hundred flagships. But 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: the question is they've said to this point twelve hundred 103 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: stores plus three sixty five, so a lot of questions 104 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: about whether they can get to that total. I was 105 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: also looking at the stock of United Natural food shares 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: down about four and a quarter percent, because they are 107 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: the biggest supplier right the Whole Foods Right there there 108 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: are the large The Whole Foods is the largest customer. 109 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: I think I could be you know, wrong here on 110 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I believe the revenue for United 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: Natural comes from Whole Foods. It's a gigantic customers. So 112 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: any day that you see Whole Foods up or down, 113 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: United Natural tends to move with them. Sprouts is the 114 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: same way. You know. Sprouts is two stores, so a 115 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: little smaller than Whole Foods, but it's an organic natural retailer. 116 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: They cut their forecast this morning. That just leads people 117 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: to again, people are very sensitive about Whole foods right now. 118 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: So any any little blip, any negative news I think 119 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: pushes the stock down. Can you talk to us a 120 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: little bit about Starbucks? First of all, I was like, whoa, 121 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: they're gonna Stevia, you know, alongside the splendor to there 122 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 1: you know, there their coffee customers. And then we've got 123 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: the ceo endorsing Miss Hillary Clinton for president. That's right there. 124 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: He was at an event this morning of breakfast in 125 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,280 Speaker 1: New York City, rolling out a series of videos that 126 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,679 Speaker 1: they're calling up standards. You know, he hired a former 127 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: editor from the Washington Post to create this sort of 128 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: almost like a news operation for him in Starbucks. So 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: they're saying, you know, he basically said, it's been very 130 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: divisive election season and we need change. We can't do this. 131 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 1: He called Donald Trump a divisive candidate. So it's always 132 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 1: a little surprising for the CEO of a big company 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: like that to wait into politics. Really haven't seen that 134 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: much of it, but he he did come out and 135 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: said he supported Hillary Clinton. He also sort of headed 136 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: a bit on whether he would ever run. A lot 137 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 1: of people think of him as a potential candidate. He's 138 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: ruled that out prior, but today he said, never say never. 139 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: Now is not the right time. But I'm a young man, 140 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: so you know, he's sixty three years old. But some 141 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: people think that Schultz is setting himself up for a 142 00:06:50,920 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: run at some point. Any chance that we're going to 143 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: see Starbucks move into other retail establishments. I mean, there 144 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: are a lot of malls which are going through a 145 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: big transition. He talked about that. He talks about the pressure. 146 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: You know, there's just less people out brick and mortar retailing. 147 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: You know, you don't go out on Saturday and shop 148 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 1: the malls pick up your Starbucks. They've invested heavily in 149 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: e commerce. You know, he likes to call it a 150 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 1: tech company inside of a coffee company. So he was 151 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: asked that question this morning and kind of said that 152 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: the e commerce is how they're going to pick up 153 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: for that. So you're still you know, you're out and about. 154 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Maybe you're not visiting traditional retailers. But I guess his 155 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: hope is that people don't ultimately just sit on the 156 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: couch and you know, shop online all day every day. 157 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:27,840 Speaker 1: That would, you know, sort of remove some of the 158 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: coffee customers. Thank you very much for joining us. 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