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Speaker 1: And we are underway. Welcome to the Action Network Podcast,

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Speaker 1: presented by FanDuel. I'm your host, Brendan Glashen. We are

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Speaker 1: joined by Action Network NFL expert Chris Raybon will be

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Speaker 1: providing us with an NFL free agency update in the NFC.

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Speaker 1: We already get our AFC episode, so we continue again.

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Speaker 1: We're talking team by team. We'll go in division order, additions, departures, quarterback, market,

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Speaker 1: draft capital, whatever. If you have to cap space, we will.

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Speaker 1: Raybon can do that too. We'll focus on the NFC.

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Speaker 1: We'll start with the NFC representative in the Super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles. They retained a lot, didn't not a lot,

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Speaker 1: but they retained quite a bit. Darius Slay. That was

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Speaker 1: a rollercoaster story. Turns out they did bring him back.

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox returns. They had some pringe depth pieces. Mariota

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Speaker 1: quarterback Penny at running back. They do lose some key

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Speaker 1: names though, CJ. Gardner Johnson to Detroit, Miles Sanders Carolina,

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Speaker 1: Javon Hargrave to San Francisco, the reigning NFC champs Raybond.

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Speaker 1: Are they in a position to be just fine to

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Speaker 1: make another run next year.

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Speaker 3: I think they'll be able to make another run. I

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Speaker 3: think it'll be a little bit more competitive, even within

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Speaker 3: the division, which was surprisingly competitive last year among the

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Speaker 2: The Eagles kind of ran away with it.

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Speaker 3: But you know, I look at some of the guys

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Speaker 3: they lost, you know, Miles Sanders, well, they Rashad Penny. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's not really a kind of a wash.

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Speaker 2: You know, they add.

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Speaker 3: Greedy Williams, you know, Gardner Johnson somewhat of a loss,

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Speaker 3: even losing hard Grave, who is a very good player

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Speaker 3: as it does most teams.

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Speaker 2: I like getting Mariota to back up Hurts.

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Speaker 3: I think that gives you kind of a similar type

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Speaker 2: You lost a little bit of offensive line depth.

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Speaker 3: I think the big thing might be, you know, you

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Speaker 3: So you know, Nakobe Dean is going to have to

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Speaker 3: take a big step forward here in year two. I

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Speaker 3: think that that's kind of my concern is that that

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Speaker 3: the coordinators. Right, you lose true I didn't match Annon,

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Speaker 3: and you lose Stiching, you know, both of those guys.

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Speaker 3: I think those will be the bigger losses. So are

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Speaker 3: the Eagles better than last year? No, They're not going

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Speaker 3: the NFC East, as we'll talk about, is probably better.

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Speaker 3: So the Eagles are still I think, you know, one

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Speaker 3: the Niners. But I don't think they're better than last year.

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Speaker 3: I think if they can, if they can kind of

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Speaker 2: They'd be happy with that.

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Speaker 3: And they'll be right in that in that conversation. But

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Speaker 3: in terms of betting value. I think last year was

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Speaker 3: you know, unlike the AFC where it tends to be

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Speaker 2: But I don't think they got better.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't fit the criteria for the new team

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Speaker 1: that could take take the leap. They did that they did.

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Speaker 1: Plus fifteen hundred unfanduled to win the Super Bowl sixth highest,

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Speaker 1: six short of sods. They add Brandon Cooks over the

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Speaker 1: They lose Connor McGovern on the old line, and Kellen

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Speaker 3: really where the issues were on offense. Now on defense,

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Speaker 3: I like the offseason for the Cowboys. I think they're

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Speaker 3: they added some guys they needed to add, they dropped

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Speaker 3: major of note that that that makes you worry. They

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Speaker 2: So I think Dallas is sitting sitting.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good here to challenge Sholly this year. And they

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Speaker 3: I just think you know, some of those key holes,

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Speaker 3: like you know, the cornerback depth, the receiver depth held

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Speaker 1: Well, we saw a game two games last year with

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Speaker 1: in October when Cooper Rush played, not Dak, and then

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Speaker 1: the game later in the year in December where Gardner

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Speaker 1: Minsho played but Dak played. But yeah, these are moves

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Speaker 1: that's they sure that up for years to come. They

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Speaker 1: add Darren Waller, they give up just a third round pick.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Personnel is the problem. They've gotta let Daniel Jones be

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Speaker 1: more of a They've got to figure out another dynamic

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think they had a really they

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Speaker 3: give people an idea of some of the moves they make,

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Speaker 3: because they made so many moves. Daniel Jones resigns four years,

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Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty Mili Saquon Barkley back on the franchise,

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Speaker 3: They did resign Darius Slayton, They resigned Isaiah Hodgens.

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Speaker 2: He'll be playing for under a mill this year.

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Speaker 1: So they did get the Slaton deal.

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Speaker 3: Hodgens is back for a major discount, and then they

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Speaker 3: signed Sterling Shepherd to a two year deal. Might not

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Speaker 2: At the least I.

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Speaker 1: Haven't heard Tony Galladay's name yet.

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Speaker 2: Of the defense. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Mean I'm going to miss that though.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Green Bay will get worse and uh, you know,

434
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Speaker 3: we'll see what what's up with Minnesota. But Minnesota looks

435
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,280
Speaker 3: like they're going to take a step back. So you

436
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,960
Speaker 3: could be Detroit Chicago this year for the division.

437
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Speaker 1: We'll get to Chicago. We'll go to Green Bay first,

438
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 1: then we'll hit Chicago. The Packers, George, we think so.

439
00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,440
Speaker 1: We talked about this in the AFC episode about Rogers

440
00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 1: being out. That feels inevitable. Nothing about the Packers relationship,

441
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,679
Speaker 1: it's all well and good. They're going to be, you know,

442
00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:47,080
Speaker 1: long term, they're great. But right now, in the immediate

443
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: they don't want them. I think he's kind of sensed

444
00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:51,960
Speaker 1: it that he's moved on. I don't see any chance

445
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,920
Speaker 1: of that happening, of him staying there. They want to

446
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Speaker 1: go on to Jordan Love. They lose Lazard, but they've

447
00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 1: got a nice Aaron Jones will be back at running.

448
00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:01,879
Speaker 1: I want to see what I think they need to

449
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,959
Speaker 1: see what Jordan Love looks like, so they figure out

450
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Speaker 1: what they want to do with him from a contractual standpoint,

451
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: if they want to commit to him long term as

452
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Speaker 1: the guy. What I haven't heard your opinion of Jordan

453
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Speaker 1: Love and what you make of the Packers. What what

454
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Speaker 1: could they do to make the Jordan Love experience more

455
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Speaker 1: comfortable and make this moving on from Aaron Rodgers' relationship easier.

456
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Speaker 2: I think Jordan Love looked good and limited action.

457
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Speaker 3: I think he was good enough to warrant, you know,

458
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Speaker 3: giving him this this kind of you know, prove it year,

459
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 3: whatever you want to call it, you know, audition year.

460
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Speaker 3: Now in the receiver room. Still, I think you know

461
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 3: you have Frisian Watson. He looks like he's going to

462
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Speaker 3: be a star. Roomeo Dobbs has kind of hit or miss.

463
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Speaker 3: You know, he had some potential, but who knows. Same

464
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Speaker 3: thing with Samory Terray. Tight end still is a is

465
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Speaker 3: a whole. You know, Tanyan's gone, but he wasn't the

466
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Speaker 3: same after his injury. So I do think you need

467
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Speaker 3: more at the pass catching positions to make Jordan Love's

468
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,359
Speaker 3: job easier. I think the all line will still be

469
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Speaker 3: in good shape. I don't love that they brought back

470
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Speaker 3: Joe Barry at defensive coordinator, so you know, overall, I

471
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Speaker 3: think I think the Packers, you know, probably are going

472
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Speaker 3: to be a mediocre team. But I think they have

473
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Speaker 3: a little more downside than up because I really think

474
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Speaker 3: they should have changed defensive coordinators. Their defense just seems

475
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Speaker 3: to underperform every year regardless of how much talent they have,

476
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Speaker 3: and they tend to have a good amount of it

477
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Speaker 3: on defense, so that that's kind of my worry there,

478
00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: and then yeah, you might need you know, two, three, four,

479
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 3: you know guys at wide receiver and tight end. So

480
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Speaker 3: you know, this is a team that I see them

481
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Speaker 3: as kind of a six, you know, five to ten

482
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Speaker 3: win team, but probably trending more towards the you know,

483
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Speaker 3: the thick seven to eight wind kind of just below

484
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Speaker 3: average for at least this year.

485
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Speaker 1: Okay, and again we'll find out what happens with Rogers,

486
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,920
Speaker 1: but I think it's gonna be Jordan Love regardless. I

487
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: think Rogers might be on the roster, but it could

488
00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: be they're gonna play Jordan Love. And finally the Bears,

489
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: which they are not their last, but certainly not least

490
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: because of they're just so compelling. And I think there's

491
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Speaker 1: some value that if you jumped in before they made

492
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Speaker 1: this move for getting all the picks they did for

493
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Speaker 1: the number one pick. They traded the number one pick

494
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Speaker 1: to Carolina. Bears get back a future first nine this year,

495
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Speaker 1: a future second. They get DJ Moore, who got buried

496
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Speaker 1: in that chefter tweet on the bottom of that list.

497
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, there's a Dj Moore. No big deal. Loved

498
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Speaker 1: what they've done so far. They bring inform and the

499
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Speaker 1: running back from Carolina Tonyan at tight end Walker. To

500
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Speaker 1: back up fields, they add Nate Davis from the Titans.

501
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Speaker 1: They don't have the number one pick, but they get

502
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Speaker 1: a lot for it. I'm just guessing you gotta I

503
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,360
Speaker 1: would imagine you have some interest in Bears futures.

504
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Speaker 2: Yes, you know I mentioned the Lions.

505
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,439
Speaker 3: You know, should should be right there, but their price

506
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 3: was it plus one thirty at the top of that division.

507
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 3: The Bears are plus three twenty, and I think they're

508
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:24,200
Speaker 3: in position to potentially win this division this year because

509
00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: justin fields, you know, if he could just take a

510
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Speaker 3: step forward with the new weapons DJ Moore, as you

511
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,320
Speaker 3: mentioned a better run game or even just this you know,

512
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 3: similar run gun, you're gonna have Herbert back Foreman.

513
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Speaker 2: I thought was very good. You have the number one

514
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Speaker 2: receiver in Dj Moore.

515
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Speaker 3: Now, Nate Davis was a top twenty guard and then

516
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 3: on defense he had DeMarcus Walker. He was a top

517
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 3: twenty five guy in the edge, Billings, top twenty guy

518
00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 3: Inside Edwards at linebacker, top six guy Tremaine Edmonds, the

519
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,919
Speaker 3: top eight guy at linebacker.

520
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Speaker 2: So you know that was the big issue. Is that

521
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,400
Speaker 2: defense that was just dead last in DVA.

522
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,840
Speaker 3: That defense is going to improve. You have the most

523
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: cap space in the league. You have ten picks, you

524
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 3: have four in the top sixty four. I mean, there's

525
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: just so much draft capital, so much, so much maneuverability,

526
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Speaker 3: and the roster is already significantly more talented. And pretty

527
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: much everyone you had in a free agency is a

528
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: good player that was you know, playing at a a

529
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 3: you know, near the top of their of their position

530
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: last season. So I think this Bears team has a

531
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Speaker 3: ton of upside.

532
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Speaker 2: I think they're going to be right there.

533
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Speaker 3: And that's why I you know, I'm not as high

534
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,520
Speaker 3: on the Vikings and the Packers because I think if

535
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Speaker 3: anyone's going to challenge this, this Lions team is going

536
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 3: to be the Bears. And I think it should be

537
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 3: a lot closer than that, you know, plus one thirty

538
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 3: for the Lions plus three twenty for the Bears. I

539
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 3: think it should be a lot closer, because you know,

540
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 3: what is the Bears, you know, really lacked that the

541
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Speaker 3: Lions don't. I mean, you know, I think justin field,

542
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 3: you know, you can't say quarterback Jared Gott versus justin fields.

543
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:05,359
Speaker 3: You know, you still got some work to do. On

544
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 3: the offensive line, I think for the Bears, but that's

545
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 3: not even in terrible shape with the Davis edition, and

546
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,440
Speaker 3: you know, the the tackle played well last year. So

547
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 3: I like this Bears team a lot. You know, I

548
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,919
Speaker 3: think in the future they're set up really well. But

549
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: I think, you know, they may surprise some people as

550
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 3: early as this year. You know, it's just they're just

551
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 3: they're just so much they can still add to this

552
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 3: roster with all the draft capitol and cap space that

553
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Speaker 3: they have.

554
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Speaker 1: When the offseason or right when last year ended twenty

555
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: twenty two, I think the Bears opened up forty to

556
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: one to win the conference and now they're at twenty

557
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: eight to one in the NFC Super Bowl. They are

558
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 1: at on FanDuel plus five thousand. So I think there's

559
00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,160
Speaker 1: still some value there in the Bears if they get

560
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: their picks right and they hit and at the coaching too,

561
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,880
Speaker 1: I've got questions, But if they can get the most

562
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: out of Fields, it's pretty good. On the rookie contract,

563
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 1: build around.

564
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: Him, Yep, that's the key.

565
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: He's got fields on a rookie contract, he can run.

566
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 3: His weapons should be a ton better, his line should

567
00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: be better, his defense should be better.

568
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot to like with the Chicago Bears.

569
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Speaker 1: You know, I was thinking before we recorded that the

570
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: NFC South could be really boring and be kind of

571
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: a snoozer. But I don't know. This is pretty fun

572
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: because of that trade. There's a lot of movement. I

573
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I have no idea about this division. Abou

574
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: who's gonna win it? I think I have a clue.

575
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: I think I have an idea who's good. But it

576
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't surprise you if any four of these teams I

577
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: got it figured out. Maybe Atlanta would be surprising. But

578
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: we'll start with Tampa. Baker Mayfield at quarterback could earn

579
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,719
Speaker 1: up to eight and a half million in the contract

580
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: that he signed. It to a one year deal for Mayfield.

581
00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:49,960
Speaker 1: Jamal Dean Race signed and that was a surprise. I

582
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of folks thought Dean would leave in

583
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: free agency, Chase Edmonds in it running back. They release

584
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette and Tom Brady definitely, I think now retired

585
00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 1: Baker and Brady out in Tampa. But Todd Bowles is

586
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 1: the coach still. What do you think of the Bucks?

587
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 3: They seem like a team that's going to be stuck

588
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 3: in purgatory at best. You know, Baker, I don't think

589
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 3: he's the long term solution. He had a couple of

590
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 3: good games for the Rams, the couple of a lot

591
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: of not so good ones over the past couple of

592
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 3: years as well. You saw what can happen when you know,

593
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: this roster suffered some injuries, when guys don't play quite

594
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: up to what you expect them to play for play,

595
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: and now you don't have Tom Brady to even cover

596
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 3: for that. So and Todd Bowles, I don't, you know,

597
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: I don't think he is anywhere near as good of

598
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 3: a coach as Bruce arians was. So I think this

599
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 3: team could just continues to take a step back now

600
00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: again this division, you know, depending on what happens in

601
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 3: the draft with these you know, with the other teams

602
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 3: or particularly Carolina, I think, you know, there are some

603
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 3: question marks still, but it's wide open. And but I

604
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,280
Speaker 3: just don't see Tampa Bay as a team that I

605
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 3: think is gonna kind of rebound here. I think I think,

606
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 3: you know, if anything, they're gonna take a step back

607
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: without without Tom Brady. You know a lot of these guys,

608
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 3: you know, you know, are they going to still be

609
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,600
Speaker 3: as hungry. They still have a lot of guys that

610
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 3: did win the Ring a couple of years ago, but overall,

611
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,800
Speaker 3: they didn't really get better in free agency. I mean

612
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 3: they lost Shaq Mason's, Roaches, Fournett, Mike Edwards. Additions were

613
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 3: few and far between. So yeah, Tampa Bay, I'm not

614
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Speaker 3: I'm not excited about them at all.

615
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Speaker 1: Okay, see that build up I had, and I say,

616
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Speaker 1: let's just get Tampa out of the way.

617
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Speaker 2: I kind of agree.

618
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Speaker 1: Let's go to the Panthers. They were fun. You bet

619
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Speaker 1: you bet on this team a lot down the stretch

620
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: last year. Yeah, Yeah, they were fun there. They were

621
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Speaker 1: a fun team. And they think because they lost McCaffrey

622
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 1: they moved on from the coach, but if they were

623
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Speaker 1: a feisty bunch and it's it's like a whole new

624
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: team though.

625
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

626
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Speaker 1: So they got the upumber one pick. That's the that's

627
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: the headliner. They get the number one pick from from

628
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Speaker 1: the Bears. They add Miles Sanders. Frank Wright is their

629
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: head coach. They just got Adam Feeling. They got Hayden Hurst.

630
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is their quarterback for now. He's their established

631
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 1: veteran quarterback. Von Bell from the Bengals, shy tunnel from

632
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: the Saints, a ton of moves by Carolina. They've got now.

633
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: They gave up some draft picks to go get one.

634
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 1: But that works, and you're gonna go spend money. No,

635
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: Dj Moore Foreman's out, as we talked about with the Bears.

636
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I'm not sure how much Stroud

637
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: Richardson can Frank Frank Wright's got a lot to work

638
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: with though in that offense.

639
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, this team does have some upside, but at the

640
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: same time, you know, we saw them improve drastically when

641
00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: when Wilkes kind of took over as coach, and even

642
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: with Westerer twon a lot of the time, and you

643
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: just wonder, you know, were they playing harder for him?

644
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:01,280
Speaker 3: Are they gonna is Frank Rka Who's gonna get them

645
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: to play as hard?

646
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 2: Because he he never struck me.

647
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: As that guy, you know in Indianapolis, but he has had.

648
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: Some winning seasons.

649
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 3: But you know, some of the guys that were key contributors,

650
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 3: you know, Deontay Forman, DJ Moore, they're gone. A lot

651
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 3: of the guys they add or are you know, kind

652
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: of middling guys. I think von Bell is a good addition,

653
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: but you know, Shy Tuttle, Deshaun Williams, Hayden Hurst, you know,

654
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: even Miles Sanders, like these guys aren't moving the needle.

655
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 3: Deelings past his prime as well. So if you're just

656
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: you know, Delon for More is a downgrade. So they

657
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: still have to hit on the quarterback. I think I'm

658
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 3: just not a huge believer that Frank Reich is a

659
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 3: needle mover for a team like this. So I think,

660
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, I think this team's gonna be a little

661
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 3: overhyped just based on.

662
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 2: All of the change.

663
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: But I see a lot of the things that you know,

664
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,520
Speaker 3: they kind of hung their hat on down the stretch

665
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,959
Speaker 3: last year might not quite be the same, you know,

666
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: like some of the key players that the coach, you know,

667
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: even Darnald you know you're gonna have a new quarterback.

668
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 2: It's just.

669
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 3: I think this team's upside is kind of similar to

670
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 3: to maybe what with Andy Dalton and the Saints were

671
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: doing last year.

672
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't I'm not.

673
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 3: I'm not sitting here and saying, oh, you know, I

674
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 3: don't put Carolina in that Chicago.

675
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: Racket.

676
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 3: I guess you could say I think Chicago's much more

677
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 3: well positioned. You know, Carolina not quite as much draft capital.

678
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: You know, they got the one.

679
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: Then they got the thirty nine to ninety three, and

680
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: then they got three more on day three.

681
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: That's it.

682
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 3: So I don't love Carolina quite as much, and I'm

683
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: just not sold on anything being a major needle mover here.

684
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: So I think things could Actually I think there's more

685
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 3: downside at this point based on how you know, everyone

686
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 3: else is kind of looking at them in the market

687
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: and saying, oh, this team might have some upside.

688
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 2: I do.

689
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,239
Speaker 3: I like the aggressive move, you know, go get go,

690
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: get the number one pick, but you gotta make it work.

691
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: And even if you do, uh, you know, I don't

692
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 3: know if there's gonna be much there at least, you know,

693
00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: from what I from my vantage point in year one,

694
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 3: even even with an improved quarterback, I think there's just

695
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: a lot of media mediocre players across across this roster.

696
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Interesting that makes sense. I mean they could they could

697
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: hit on the quarterback, but could the rate in the

698
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: conference lately hasn't been great or like it could be

699
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:28,759
Speaker 1: a justin fields thing where it could take a year

700
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: or two to figure it out.

701
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: So I think it's the most likely.

702
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:35,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they just got so many the moves they made

703
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: in the office. But I see your point because like

704
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: the idea of betting on them at the end of

705
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,360
Speaker 1: last year was guys were playing for jobs too.

706
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: And I mean, what's the needle mover? Like what what

707
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 3: move is act like outside of the get Okay, you're

708
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: gonna let's say you get a quarterback at one one, okay,

709
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: but like, what are the movies in the needle mover?

710
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: Like Foreman was great? You can't say Miles Sanders is

711
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: gonna be en up grade. You can't say Theme is

712
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 3: gonna be an upgrade on More you know, you know,

713
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: Tuttle Williams, solid players. Von Bell is probably the best

714
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: player they added, you know. So it's just like, I

715
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 3: don't see a ton of needle movers. You know, obviously

716
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: the quarterback has to be the needle mover, but year

717
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 3: one don't I don't see it.

718
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: Once again, Tune into our NFL Draft episode, which is

719
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 1: coming out a recording Wednesday, will be out myself, Luke Swayne,

720
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: Travis Reid. We're giving you the latest how to bet

721
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft and also just what's been going on.

722
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: We haven't had an episode since that trade. Okay, the Saints,

723
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: they add Derek Carr, they bring in Jamal Williams after

724
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 1: having a monster year. They restructure some deals for current

725
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: players Michael Thomas, Cam Jordan and the defense. They lose

726
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: Davenport in tuttle to free agency. Okay, so you just

727
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: said it there a second ago. The Saints with Andy

728
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: Dalton last year, Eh, you know, they'll be they'll be

729
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: in games, or they'll they'll hang around five hundred. They

730
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: went seven and ten. What about Derek Carr now having

731
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: a competent, we think, well, there's star players. The Saints

732
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: are getting older on that side of the ball. Is

733
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 1: it like too little too late for Derek Carr to

734
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: go to this team? Like maybe if he was there

735
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, at that defense and how

736
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: their offense was playing, Derek Carr would be great. But

737
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 1: is does he move the needle in New Orleans?

738
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 3: I don't know if he moves the needle. I think health,

739
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,439
Speaker 3: you know, is gonna play a big factor too. I mean,

740
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 3: if you can have if you could keep Michael Thomas healthy,

741
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 3: you know, Olave is great and even he missed some games.

742
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: I think Rashisha he had some upside too, So I

743
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 3: like the receivers. Johnson came on at tight end. You know,

744
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 3: the running backs should be should be fine. I think

745
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 3: the tackle situation should be good.

746
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 2: Maybe.

747
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 3: I think the thing you worry about with car is okay,

748
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: you know, going to a new system, can he you know,

749
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,920
Speaker 3: is it going to be an issue kind of like

750
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: it was when McDaniel comes over, uh, and he just

751
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: does not play well, you know, last year in a

752
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 3: new system.

753
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 2: So I think that's the biggest concern.

754
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: But beyond that, I think I think you're in a

755
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 3: decent spot to at least win this division. I mean,

756
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 3: on defense, he still got he's still got you know,

757
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 3: I know you lost some guys up front the teams

758
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,280
Speaker 3: in the division, but he still got Jordan, You've still

759
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: got uh, Carl Granderson on the on the edge, he

760
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 3: still got Davis at linebacker, who's very good. He's still

761
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 3: got uh, you know, a couple of good safeties as well.

762
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: So I think this is still the most complete team.

763
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: I think Derek Carr, you know, obviously is is a

764
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 3: concern in terms of how much he picks up the offense.

765
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 3: But when you look at across the division, at the

766
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 3: rosters and and the quarterback situations of the other team.

767
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: I think New Orleans should be a clear favorite. And

768
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 3: I do think they have some upside if they can

769
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,799
Speaker 3: if they can stay healthy, especially if they can keep

770
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 3: you know, Thomas olave Shaheed, uh, you know, on the

771
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 3: field at the same time for Derek Carr. I think

772
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 3: I think they'll be in a pretty decent spot because

773
00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: they're going to pick up wins in the division if

774
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 3: they can kind of keep everybody healthy.

775
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: And they they draft. Where are the Saints in the draft?

776
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: They had to give one up, right because of the

777
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: Sean They got one from the Sean Payton trade. No,

778
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: but that one would what happened with the Sean Payton

779
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: the draft pick?

780
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,239
Speaker 2: I where did this? I'm not sure. I know they

781
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 2: have the Let's see, they have the twenty nine. Yeah

782
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: went to Philly.

783
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, pick with to Philly.

784
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 3: So they have they still have yeah, so they have

785
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 3: they have a pick in each in each of the

786
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: first uh you know, in each of the first three

787
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 3: rounds and they have eight totals, so you know, nothing

788
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 3: crazy there, but yeah, this I think this team right

789
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 3: now is the best still has the best roster. It's

790
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 3: not it's nothing special, but I still think they have

791
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: the best roster in the division, and if they can

792
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 3: stay healthy, I think they'll I think they'll be kind

793
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 3: of the clear the clear favorite.

794
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 1: Twenty nine. Yeah, they draft twenty ninth, so they still

795
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: have the first round pick. They're just not the top ten.

796
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay, yeah, the.

797
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: Twenty ninth to fortieth, seventy first those are picks on days.

798
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: Went in too.

799
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: Saints plus money right now plus one fifteen to win

800
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: the NFC South over at Fandel. Okay, we'll wrap with

801
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,720
Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons. They also went seven and ten. Heineke

802
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 1: at quarterback. Desmond redd Is still on the roster. He

803
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: was the draft pick out of Cincinnati last year. So

804
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: no Mariota. Mariota's out, Mariota's in Philly, and they had

805
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: John of Smith. They give Jesse Bates a ton of money.

806
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: They re up Lenstrom at offensive line still, and there's

807
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 1: they're reportedly not in on Lamar Jackson that bums me

808
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: out that it would fit in well there, I'm not

809
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: sure what Tamaka the Falcons are. They going to be horrible.

810
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:34,240
Speaker 2: I think they're going to be horrible.

811
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 3: You know, they did, but I still don't like the

812
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 3: quarterback situation. I mean, you still don't I still don't

813
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 3: think you have your quarterback of the future. You're still

814
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 3: going to kind of be in this quarterback no man's land.

815
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 3: But you know, you do have some talent at the

816
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 3: Skoll positions, you know, young talent Drake London, Kyle Pitts,

817
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 3: Tyler Aldiear. You know you have a Woil should be

818
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 3: a solid offensive line and you know with the upside

819
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 3: to be even better than that, upside to be very good.

820
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 2: Uh. And then you know on defense.

821
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 3: You add Anya Made, you add Kate Nellis, you add

822
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 3: Jesse Bates, you still have a j Terrell.

823
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 2: So I do I think this is the.

824
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 3: Other team, you know in this division that I see

825
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: challenging New Orleans.

826
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people might say

827
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: it's Carolina.

828
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: Some people might say, hey, Tampa Bay still has you know,

829
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,200
Speaker 3: a lot of the roster from from the Super Bowl championship.

830
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 3: Even without Brady, maybe they can kind of, you know,

831
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 3: stumble their way into a division title. But to me,

832
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: Atlanta is a team with the with the most upside

833
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: because I could see them you know, still being uh

834
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 3: like like still being an average team. And remember this team,

835
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 3: even with Marioto last year, their offense was actually pretty.

836
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 2: Solid for much of the year. You know, they were

837
00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 2: they were efficient because they were able to run the ball.

838
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: They finished thirteenth in offensive DVOA, third in rushing dv OA.

839
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,359
Speaker 3: So you know, even with some very bad quarterback play,

840
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 3: this is still an above average offense last year. Now,

841
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: you know, maybe it's Heyankee. Maybe Ritter takes a step forward,

842
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 3: and maybe maybe they do something in the draft. Who knows,

843
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 3: maybe they you know, we don't know. But I do

844
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,799
Speaker 3: think this team has upside. I think the old line

845
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,319
Speaker 3: has a lot of upside. I think the secondary can

846
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 3: be soiled, especially adding Baits. You have you have two

847
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: legit you know, stars in that secondary and Baits and

848
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 3: uh In Terrell and you got you got the young

849
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 3: talent at the skill position. So I think Atlanta to me,

850
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: uh it's still the second best team in this division

851
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: at this point. Oh, I think they're better than Carolina.

852
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 3: I think Tampa Bay. I'm just not a believer in

853
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield. I don't think Kyle Traska is ready. You know,

854
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 3: maybe Tampa Bay, Tampa Bay does something more than that

855
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 3: a quarterback. Maybe we have kind of restart the conversation.

856
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 3: But right now, if I'm betting it's New Orleans and

857
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: it's Atlanta.

858
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Interesting, Okay, you're higher on Atlanta than I would have imagined.

859
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: But all right, fair enough, let's go to the NFC

860
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: West before you wrap. We'll start with the forty nine ers.

861
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: San Francisco came up short. They got blasted by the

862
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: Eagles in the NFC Championship Game. Their quarterback got hurt.

863
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 1: The story of Brock Purdy came to a horrible end.

864
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,280
Speaker 1: But they add Sam Darnold in the off season. Javon

865
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:39,400
Speaker 1: Hargrave comes from Philly to San Francisco. They lose defensive

866
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: coordinator Demico Ryans. He's now the Texans head coach. Garoppolo's out.

867
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: They're still trying to figure out Trey Lance and what

868
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: his health may be. But they've got I mean, there

869
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: are rumors about Deebo Samuel earlier in the off season,

870
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:55,120
Speaker 1: but Deebo remains intact. They have McCaffrey for a full season.

871
00:42:55,520 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 1: Kittles back defensively mostly intact from what they had last year.

872
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 1: Mostly they add Hardgrave to that mix. They did lose

873
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: a little bit in the middle of the defense. Not much,

874
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: but I think the hard Grave edition is a big

875
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: one San Francisco. I can't imagine there's a ton of

876
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: value at this point with them, But are they What

877
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: do you make of the dynamic of quarterback the Darnald edition?

878
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: Can he sort of keep you know, as I said

879
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: that he used this line before, keep the train on

880
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 1: the tracks, before they figure out what's up with Lance

881
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: or Party because they're both banged up.

882
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he can.

883
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: Part of the reason I was betting on Carolina so

884
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 3: much down the stretch because I felt like Donald was a.

885
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 2: You know, he was playing well, he was playing well.

886
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 2: He's playing within the system.

887
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 3: Obviously, now he's coming to a new system, but you know,

888
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 3: I still think that, you know, you look at his

889
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 3: draft pedigree, he was always expected to be a solid player,

890
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 3: and you just look at the guys that San Francisco

891
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 3: have allowed to put up, you know, above average efficiency.

892
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 3: I mean it was just Jimmy g you know, guys

893
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: like Nick Mullens were putting up you know, eight yards

894
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,239
Speaker 3: in attempt at times in San Francisco.

895
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: So I think the fact that you.

896
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 3: Add Darnold to a room with Perty and Lance, you

897
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 3: have you don't have as much downside, and you have

898
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,479
Speaker 3: a lot of upside in that quarterback room.

899
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 2: And the rest of the roster, to your point, is stacked.

900
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: I mean, your additions on defense are Hardgrave, who was

901
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,600
Speaker 3: you know, one of the top.

902
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 2: Interior linemen in the game. And you add Isaiah.

903
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 3: Oliver at corner and he was a top ten corner

904
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 3: last year in PFF grades, and you charged Various.

905
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 2: Ward was the top ten corner as well.

906
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,320
Speaker 3: So you know, yes, you still want, you know, Geomedo

907
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 3: or Leonarda to take a step forward, but and you

908
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: do lose Ward, but you still have that you still

909
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 3: had you had an embarrassment of Richards at safety, so

910
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 3: you still have Hufanga and Gibson who played very well there.

911
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna get you know, all pro play

912
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 3: out of Fred Warner and Drake Greenlaws.

913
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,720
Speaker 2: So this roster still stacked.

914
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,839
Speaker 3: They've shown they don't need, you know, in a week

915
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 3: quarterback with this roster and the roster remains intact.

916
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 2: You know, we'll see, you know, losing Mico.

917
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 3: Ryans, maybe you know, maybe they take a little bit

918
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 3: of a step back, but it's hard to imagine a

919
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: massive step back on defense. Just will a talent they have,

920
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 3: So yeah, I think San Francisco, Yeah, they are the favorite.

921
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: I think they're like minus one fifty to win the division.

922
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,879
Speaker 3: But I think they're a pretty safe bet because there's

923
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 3: three different quarterbacks who you could play, and I don't

924
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: think any one of them really you know, knock their

925
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: chances down. So you know, they could they could continue

926
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 3: to suffer injuries at that position and still you know,

927
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 3: we saw them go all the way to the championship game.

928
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: So I think they're a safe bet even though they're

929
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 3: they're slightly juiced here to win the division because I

930
00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 3: just think there's a huge gap between them and everybody else.

931
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm pretty sure Kyle Shanahan too, has always had

932
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,160
Speaker 1: a lot of admiration for Sam Darneld, so he finally

933
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 1: gets to see what he's got with that.

934
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 2: That's true. That's a good point.

935
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 3: We haven't seen Donald, you know, he was he was

936
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 3: looking a lot better, just you know, with Carolina down

937
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: the stretch and that new coaching staff over the second

938
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: half of the year. Now with an offseason with Shanahan,

939
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean, we could see another step forward from Donald

940
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 3: and you know, maybe you know, we've seen him play

941
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,880
Speaker 3: well for short stretches, and that might be all the

942
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 3: forty nine ers need. You know, they can get you know,

943
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 3: six seven games out of Donald at the right time,

944
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 3: that might be what they need. So uh yeah, I

945
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 3: really wouldn't have hesitation about betting the Niners to win

946
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 3: the division. It's not a sexy bet, but I do

947
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 3: think there's it's a pretty high.

948
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: Floor bet minus one sixty right now over at FanDuel.

949
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, not sexy, but high floor. Okay.

950
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm fascinated when, if, and when Lance is ready by

951
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: like we he actually is he gonna be ready by August.

952
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: We don't know yet, right Lance, I don't think so.

953
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see.

954
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 3: I mean, and you know, even if he is, I

955
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 3: think there's gonna be a compet disition at quarterback. I

956
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: would think, you know, as well as Party played and

957
00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: the fact that Darnold did show some upside, I think

958
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 3: just given the guys you have in that room, I

959
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,120
Speaker 3: don't think it would be I don't know how you

960
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 3: don't just say made the best men win. At this point,

961
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 3: you know, no one's really that established to where you

962
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,719
Speaker 3: can just kind of hands the reins to one guy

963
00:47:19,760 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 3: if anyone was that guy. I guess you'd probably just

964
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 3: hand it to Party because he led you. You know,

965
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 3: he played so well down a stretch, but now he's

966
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 3: coming off an injury. So yeah, I think it'll be

967
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 3: an open competition.

968
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks retain Gino Smith at quarterback. They do pick

969
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: high in the draft. Other than that really quiet offseason,

970
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: Devin Bush signed in free agency, Julian Love at safety.

971
00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 1: They got Evan Brown on the offensive line, Michael Jackson

972
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: corner signed to a deal, released Quentin Jefferson. What do

973
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: you I guess they're a team. And again, tune into

974
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: the draft show that we do every week the Action

975
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 1: Network podcast NFL draft preview shows that were doing each

976
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: week now leading up to the draft in mid April.

977
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: What to the What do you make of the Seahawks

978
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,600
Speaker 1: sticking with Gino Smith three years, one hundred plus and

979
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: how they've constructed their team to try and stay in

980
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 1: the hunt and keep up with a San fran.

981
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, San Franz rosters are so great across

982
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: the board that I think it's gonna be hard for

983
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,479
Speaker 3: Seattle to overtake them. But you know, if you're looking

984
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 3: to fade San Francisco or you're just looking at, you know,

985
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 3: a team with some upside. I would look at Seattle

986
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,360
Speaker 3: because the one thing that Seattle has and at San

987
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 3: Francisco actually doesn't have is early draft capital. San Francisco

988
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,840
Speaker 3: has a ton of picks in the draft. I believe

989
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 3: they have eleven picks, but none before the third round.

990
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 2: And that's the end of the third.

991
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 3: Round, right, The Seahawks have ten picks. Four of those

992
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 3: picks are in the top fifty two. So and we've

993
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 3: seen how well the Seahawks have drafted at some of

994
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: the you know, some of the guys they've found to

995
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:03,360
Speaker 3: rulan uh, you know, stands out in the draft. So

996
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 3: if they can hit on a few picks, like I

997
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 3: don't think it's it's gonna be enough.

998
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: You know, they probably have to hit all you know, three.

999
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 3: Four, all four, all four and in those first for

1000
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 3: to even think of coming anywhere close to San Francisco.

1001
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 3: But I do think they have some upside, you know,

1002
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,080
Speaker 3: to even to take this roster that we see on paper,

1003
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 3: which is I would say pretty average, you know, and

1004
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,960
Speaker 3: take into you know that above average, you know, too

1005
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 3: good territory because you know, I do like ruland I

1006
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 3: think that secondary. You know, you still have Adams and

1007
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,800
Speaker 3: Digs at this at safety, I think you can stand

1008
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,280
Speaker 3: to you know, beat you know, get better up front

1009
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: and maybe that's.

1010
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: Where a lot of the picks will go.

1011
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1012
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,320
Speaker 3: But you have, you know, you have young guys on

1013
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 3: the all line, and uh, I.

1014
00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,960
Speaker 2: Think that we have some some room for growth there.

1015
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: You have good running back, good receivers, Geno Smith, you know,

1016
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,319
Speaker 3: kind of change his whole changes whole games a lot

1017
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 3: better now. So, uh, I think this is another one

1018
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,719
Speaker 3: of these teams that does have some upside to make

1019
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 3: a run, and they have the draft capital to surprise

1020
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 3: some people because you know, even once they make their picks,

1021
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 3: I think, you know, on paper, they're gonna look better.

1022
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 3: But then we've just seen how some of these guys

1023
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,440
Speaker 3: can have even more upside than you would think. That

1024
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 3: this team is kind of unearthing. So I'm looking at

1025
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 3: the Seattle team and I'm gonna be very interested in

1026
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: their draft. With their four picks in the top fifty two,

1027
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 3: they're ten in total. I like this team, you know,

1028
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 3: to make a playoff run. I don't think they overtake

1029
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 3: San Francisco, but if you're looking for a long shot,

1030
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 3: I think this has to be it in this division,

1031
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: and I think this could be a legit playoff team

1032
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 3: if they draft.

1033
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: Well, you're in Los Angeles, right, Yep, it's up with

1034
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: the Rams. Man Like Cooper Cup got hurt, Stafford got hurt.

1035
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: A lot of guys got hurt. They lost Jalen Ramsey

1036
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: in the offseason, Baker Mayfield. That he chose not to

1037
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,160
Speaker 1: bring back Mayfield, that's a sign that Stafford's that it's

1038
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: almost too quiet with the Rams. Flashy team that out

1039
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: made a bunch of moves when the Super Bowl all in,

1040
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 1: and I haven't heard much about him. Like Sean McVay

1041
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: was rumored to maybe go to do television and now

1042
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: he wants to coach. I would like to think he

1043
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: doesn't want to coach a rebuild. What about I don't

1044
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 1: know what to say about the Rams. Are they thinking like, well,

1045
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:19,880
Speaker 1: we'll just get our team back, will be healthier, and

1046
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: then we'll we'll go from there.

1047
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 3: I think I think that's part of it. But I

1048
00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:27,399
Speaker 3: also think this was they were kind of.

1049
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 2: Prepared for this.

1050
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: As you know, you go, you win the Super Bowl,

1051
00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 3: you make a lot of win now moves, and you're

1052
00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 3: gonna have to pay for that at some point, and

1053
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 3: you know.

1054
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: You paid for it last year and you see this year.

1055
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean no, nothing, nothing of note, you know, in

1056
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 3: free agency in terms of the sign I mean they

1057
00:51:44,560 --> 00:51:45,600
Speaker 3: resigned Coleman Shelton.

1058
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:47,759
Speaker 2: That's about it.

1059
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 1: Write that one down.

1060
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, you lose Jamon Ramsey to Miami, you know,

1061
00:51:53,840 --> 00:51:57,239
Speaker 3: Greg Gaines. But and it's Stafford that you know, he's

1062
00:51:57,239 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 3: still in Wimbo. We're here in trade talks with him.

1063
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 3: So I almost wonder if this is a you know,

1064
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:06,839
Speaker 3: as a RAMS just doing this as a rebuild year.

1065
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 3: I mean, trading Ramsey would certainly suggest. So they do

1066
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 3: have eleven picks, now none in round one, but they

1067
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 3: do have eleven picks. You know, they have the thirty

1068
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 3: sixth pick and that's in round two, and then they

1069
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 3: have a couple in round three as well. So my

1070
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 3: sense is that they're looking at looking at this as

1071
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 3: a rebuild year. I don't think I don't think they're

1072
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 3: really counting on Matthew Stafford, you know, to go win

1073
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,399
Speaker 3: them another super Bowl.

1074
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 2: To be honest, I think you know, if he wants

1075
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 2: to be here another year that you know he'll be here.

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Speaker 3: But you know, there's rumors of him retiring, there's rumors

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00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: of him getting traded, and I just don't think the

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00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: roster at this point is in a position, you know,

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00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: to compete with San Francisco and who, by the way,

1080
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,800
Speaker 3: always has their number anyway, and you know, you just

1081
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: look at this roster and it's in no position to

1082
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 3: compete with San Francisco.

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00:52:58,080 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 2: So I think they're viewing this as a rebuild.

1084
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 3: I think, you know, I think the fact that McVeigh

1085
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: kind of said, okay, you know what, I do want

1086
00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: to continue coaching, they're probably with and said, Okay, if

1087
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 3: we want to get back to you know where you're

1088
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 3: going to Super Bowls every year, we might need we

1089
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 3: might need to take this year and just kind of,

1090
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 3: you know, ride it out and you know, no one's

1091
00:53:15,320 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 3: going to question you.

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00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: You got you got the ring for us. You've been

1093
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 2: in two Super Bowls already. So that's just my sense.

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00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know how you look at it

1095
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 3: any other way, just given given the roster, I don't

1096
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 3: see I don't even see how they have, especially once

1097
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: the draft is all said and done. I just don't

1098
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 3: even see how they how they compete.

1099
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 2: With Seattle.

1100
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:38,280
Speaker 1: Rams have three picks in the top seventy seven. No first,

1101
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: that's going to be a theme with this football team

1102
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: for a while. No first drum picks again. Okay, and

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00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: we wrap with the Arizona Cardinals. Jonathan Gannon is their

1104
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 1: new head coach. No more Cliff Kingsbury. No. Our director

1105
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,560
Speaker 1: of audio at Action Network, Matt Mitchell is very sad

1106
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: about that. No more fading Cliff, about the Lords and loser.

1107
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,640
Speaker 1: He's a Louis about He still.

1108
00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 3: Keeps up try.

1109
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 1: We don't know about DeAndre Hopkins yet, where he may

1110
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: end up, if he'll be back. This is kind of

1111
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 1: a mess. Kyler's hurt. We don't know Kyler's timetable. Similar

1112
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: to what we talked about with Lance in the same division, Stafford,

1113
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:27,120
Speaker 1: we don't Now there's there's another there's this division. I

1114
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: mean outside of and even San Francisco a good team.

1115
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 1: They've got some questions and Gino. Gino is probably the

1116
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: only sure thing we know in this division at quarterback

1117
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 1: for the whole season. I think, depending on what they do,

1118
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: imagine they draft Richardson and it's a whole cluster. What

1119
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: about the Cardinals? Is there any hope for this team?

1120
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,320
Speaker 1: The way they've participated in the offseason.

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00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 2: I I hate writing off.

1122
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 3: Teams in March, but I'm gonna I'm gonna say no

1123
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 3: because I think that you know, they've shown they can

1124
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 3: stay afloat with you know, with Colt McCoy as a backup.

1125
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 2: But you know, missing Kyler is a big loss.

1126
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 3: They obviously have talent at receiver, but it looks so

1127
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 3: it looks a lot different if DeAndre Hopkins is not

1128
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,760
Speaker 3: at the top of that depth chart.

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 2: And the defense. You know, Gannon is a defensive guy,

1130
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,400
Speaker 2: but you know, not not working with a ton. You know,

1131
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 2: you lose JJ Watt, you lose uh Zach Allen, you

1132
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,360
Speaker 2: lose Byron Murphy.

1133
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,560
Speaker 3: So you're gonna have to It's probably going to take

1134
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: a year for him to get the guys on that

1135
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 3: roster that he wants. They do have nine total picks.

1136
00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 3: They do have the number three overall. You know, they

1137
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 3: picked you know, they picked third in the second round

1138
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 3: as well, and the third and then they have they

1139
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 3: have it. They have the ninety six picks, so they

1140
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 3: do have decent draft capital. But when I look at

1141
00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 3: this roster, I just think it's gonna need They're gonna

1142
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,120
Speaker 3: need more than one year. Yeah, I think the best

1143
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 3: they can hope for is maybe you know, kind of

1144
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 3: out outperforming their their win total, which I'm guessing will

1145
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 3: be probably like five and a half or something like that.

1146
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 3: Uh And you know, maybe they're a feisty, you know, six, seven, eight,

1147
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 3: even eight win team. But I can't see this team

1148
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 3: having a winning record and challenging uh San Francisco for

1149
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 3: the division title.

1150
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: We shall see. I mean, I've got fan duel up

1151
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 1: right now. I only see one win total right now.

1152
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: It's the Saints at nine and a half.

1153
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: I think I think that they're kind of holding off

1154
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,600
Speaker 3: on some of these until until we get more certainty,

1155
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 3: especially with Lamar Jackson still up in the air and right, yeah, so.

1156
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:45,160
Speaker 1: No question Lamar and if Aaron Rodgers gets done.

1157
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot, a lot going on.

1158
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 1: That's a that's a way for to remind everybody again.

1159
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: We have an AFC Free Agency Update episode available where

1160
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 1: we talk Lamar, we talk about Aaron Rodgers if indeed

1161
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,879
Speaker 1: he is a jet. So check out the other one.

1162
00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: We broke it up into two parts. Also as a reminder,

1163
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: new episode of the March Madness Player Props episodes. We've

1164
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: been doing for the tournament, will be out Wednesday afternoon.

1165
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: Sean Kerner, Nick Giffen, myself, Sweet sixteen player props. Nick

1166
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,880
Speaker 1: Giffin's been crushing at Kerner too. Giffin's on a roll,

1167
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: so you want to tune into that. And also starting Thursday,

1168
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: we'll have our new NFL Draft Betting Update episode which

1169
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 1: is coming to you every week leading into the Draft.

1170
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 1: So yes Thursdays when our next Draft episode will be available.

1171
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 1: I'll be with Luke Swain aka Vegas Refund and Travis

1172
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: Reed for Chris Raybond Brendan Glasheen. Thanks for tuning in

1173
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:40,520
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1174
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,720
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