WEBVTT - Could you live without a refrigerator? 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.240 Welcome to you stuff you should know from how stuff 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:12.440 Works dot com. Hey, and welcome to the podcast on 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.360 Josh Clark. There's Charles W Chuck Bryant and Jerry's over there, 0:00:17.239 --> 0:00:21.880 and she's eating stalks of broccoli. Yes, not the florette's 0:00:21.920 --> 0:00:27.120 eating chunky trunk. She throws the floretts away. It's bizarre. No, 0:00:27.280 --> 0:00:29.680 she's not into food waste, so she's eating every single bit. 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.920 She's just munching on it like a rabbit over there. Oh, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:33.680 I see you know. Oh no that I look more 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:35.600 close to see that. You're right. That wasn't just a 0:00:35.600 --> 0:00:39.720 clever lead into what will be a great intro from you. No, 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:43.519 that was the intro. Okay, Jerry doesn't waste food, people, No, 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.800 food waste is a terrible thing. And we're we're that's 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:49.839 that's only part of the tip of the iceberg of 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:52.800 this subject that we're about to touch on the tip 0:00:52.840 --> 0:00:56.360 of the ice box. This is a huge, rambling, enormous 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.760 topic that we're about to tackle. See, Chuck, you've heard 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:05.360 of green eco friendliness. Yeah, yeah, we like eco consciousness. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:07.800 You'd like to push that racket when we can. Yeah, 0:01:08.319 --> 0:01:10.640 what said is like more and more today it seems 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.480 to be. Well, there's parts that have becoming green, like 0:01:13.560 --> 0:01:16.680 people recycle, and like recycling is the thing now, it's 0:01:16.760 --> 0:01:19.080 not going anywhere. Like if you don't recycle, now you're 0:01:19.200 --> 0:01:22.360 kind of like one of those people that throws cigarettes 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:24.760 out the window. Yeah, that's pretty bad too. You know 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.680 a lot of people still do that. Yeah, but I 0:01:27.720 --> 0:01:29.840 think not to get off on my high horse, but 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:31.280 I think a lot of the people that toss the 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:35.520 cigarettes out the window probably like would say, if someone 0:01:35.560 --> 0:01:38.440 through a McDonald's back out the window, they'd be like, 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.760 how can you do that? Yeah, Like they justify cigarettes somehow. 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:45.400 I've seen that people throw those things out, like eco 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:47.560 friendly people. I think, just the eco friendly smokers, I 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:49.960 think justify that because it's like, wow, you still want 0:01:49.960 --> 0:01:53.080 a cigarette in your car, you rite, dude, because they 0:01:53.160 --> 0:01:56.480 stink there will end up in a in a lake 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.560 or something. A birdle eat it. Did you know that? 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.200 I was at the Guess station the other day and 0:02:02.240 --> 0:02:05.240 I saw a guy driving off and as he drove off, 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:08.200 he held his hand out the window and released a 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.960 stack of apparently losing lottery tickets a stay. I'm talking 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:16.160 like thirty just right into the parking lot. I couldn't 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.960 believe my eyes. I mean it's a joke now literally 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:22.040 on Anchorman in the original anchor Man, when they finish 0:02:22.080 --> 0:02:24.080 all of their McDonald's, they just throw all their stuff, 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:27.560 like in the park and the Madman had one of 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.440 those two they have like a family picnic, and afterward 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.720 they gathered up their stuff and just like picked up 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:34.280 the mincot and throw all the trash out, and we're like, 0:02:34.360 --> 0:02:37.119 let's go right exactly That's how it used to be, though. Yeah, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:39.320 isn't that weird that that used to be a thing 0:02:39.440 --> 0:02:41.880 that it's okay to throw trash on the ground, and 0:02:41.919 --> 0:02:44.239 it's it's not okay, but some people still do it. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:48.400 I've seen it, right, Um. But the point is, I 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.639 am making a point here. Believe it or not, there 0:02:51.760 --> 0:02:55.919 is some parts of the green movement that have become entrenched, 0:02:56.160 --> 0:03:00.240 ensconced in the mainstream culture, and it's having an act, 0:03:00.240 --> 0:03:03.360 it's having a real factor. It's not even enough of 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:07.480 an effect. We're all headed for global catastrophe eventually. Um. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:10.800 But when we when we think about the green movement now, 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:14.560 it almost seems past tense like it was. There's parts 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.640 of it that seemed like a bit of a fad, 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.520 you know what I mean, like being green? How green 0:03:19.560 --> 0:03:22.000 can you go? Like what can you do? And uh, 0:03:22.320 --> 0:03:23.959 there was this thing that kind of popped up in 0:03:24.000 --> 0:03:29.120 two thousand nine because of a New York Times article, um, 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:35.800 where people were starting to give up the refrigerators as 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:39.000 part of the green movement to be green to basically 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:43.320 like say I'm greener than now. You get the impression 0:03:43.320 --> 0:03:46.040 that that's what they're doing. Ultimately, they're saying, no, it's 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:49.240 just one last thing that's using up um electricity, so 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:53.480 it's saving CEO two emissions. But it seems to me 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.160 to fall along the line of the people who like 0:03:56.280 --> 0:04:00.800 had themselves sterilized so they couldn't contribute to the growing population, 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:04.800 global population. You're saying, those are about the same, it 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:09.680 seems to me, although the the refrigerator one is far 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:13.600 more reversible because you just go and buy a refrigerator 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.320 and plug it in. Yeah, bam, I'm back baby. Well 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:21.680 you can reverse your your procedure to not have kids 0:04:21.680 --> 0:04:24.560 to these days. Yeah, I think it's kind of it's 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.840 a roll of the dice. Oh really was if it'll 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.320 work again? Oh? I thought you could get it reversion 0:04:30.400 --> 0:04:33.919 up in the sweat. They can, you know, reverse it, 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.560 but it doesn't necessarily work. Okay, I thought that's pretty good. 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:42.279 All right, man, that was a sidebar. Uh So should 0:04:42.279 --> 0:04:44.680 we talk about food waste? Well, let's talk about this 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.520 refrigerator thing. You're really fixated on the food waste thing, 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:49.400 aren't you. Well it's a big part of whether or 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:51.880 not you can go without a fridge. Well, let's let's 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:54.479 talk about what happens or why people go without a fridge. First, 0:04:54.560 --> 0:04:57.679 Chuck could feel bear with me. So people are pulling 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.800 the plugs on these refrigers? Are they wearing two thousand 0:04:59.880 --> 0:05:02.600 nine or at least three people were in two thousand 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:07.800 nine one in Canada? I think yeah? Um, And but 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.240 I get the impression from reading the original New York 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.480 Times article that there were there were. It was this 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:16.760 kind of the sub thing among the green It wasn't 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.279 all the rage, No, like bamboo flooring a cork flooring. No. 0:05:20.440 --> 0:05:23.320 And the New York Times article pointed out that it 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:27.119 seems to be a dividing line among green the eco 0:05:27.200 --> 0:05:31.240 conscious in the eco crazy. Yeah, like what where some 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:35.280 people say that's preposterous, That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard, 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:37.280 and then other people were like, look at how far 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.440 I'm willing to go to be green. So what's the 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:45.600 what's the benefit of all that? Well, a refrigerator uses electricity, 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:47.680 and I guess we can give you a couple of 0:05:47.760 --> 0:05:51.039 stats to bring it all home for you. Typical fridge 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:56.600 post two thousand uses about four fifty k watts per year. Yeah, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:59.240 that's thanks to the Energy Star ratings. Yeah, which is 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.640 better than it used to be for sure. Um. And 0:06:01.680 --> 0:06:05.479 if you want to translate that into uh, cheeseburgers, no 0:06:05.600 --> 0:06:10.279 way into miles driven in your car, because we're talking 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:13.200 about the emission of CEO two. Uh, that's about eight 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:17.120 hundred miles driving a car, about eight hundred miles depending 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.720 on what kind of mile do you get, because really 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:25.440 it's a gallons of gas. Uh. Yeah. So even then 0:06:25.520 --> 0:06:29.599 the article they point out that it's kind of low 0:06:29.640 --> 0:06:33.400 on the list. It ranks behind closed dryer, central air 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.520 in your furnace. Yeah, your furnace is like six thousand 0:06:36.600 --> 0:06:39.920 kilowats a year. It's amazing. So you're you're a refrigerator. 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.000 UM's four d and fifty kilowat hours of electricity per year. 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:46.520 So it's not even super high up in your household. No, 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.840 it's nowhere near. But I think the people who are 0:06:49.880 --> 0:06:53.000 pulling the plugs on these refrigerators are saying every little 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.360 bit counts. Yeah, and they probably have already taken other 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.839 green precautions, like they probably don't run their furnace like this, 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.440 you know, like they might have a pot belly stuff. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:09.120 They better not if they use a normal old like yeah, 0:07:09.720 --> 0:07:14.200 terrible electric furnace. They then I'm going to go to 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:16.400 their house and have a little chance like shaking outside 0:07:16.440 --> 0:07:18.880 their house. Yet they're eating out of a glucooler, right, 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:21.480 and that's what they do. I mean, like when when 0:07:21.520 --> 0:07:24.800 when you pull the plug on the fridge, I wish 0:07:24.840 --> 0:07:27.040 I could just come up with another phrase that rolls 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.880 off the tongue. So I'm tired of saying that when 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:34.800 you go without a refrigerator, dee fridge, deefridge chuck nice. 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:39.720 When you de fridge um, you still need typically some 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:44.040 source of cooling inside of your home, something that can 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:49.720 keep some food items from perishing, because we apparently refrigerate 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.120 a lot of stuff we don't need to. That is true. Yeah, 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:54.080 you can keep that catch up the mustard out on 0:07:54.080 --> 0:07:57.880 the counter, hot sauce. I've read it goes three years 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:01.520 in a regular pantry. Chi just keep it out there. Yeah, 0:08:01.840 --> 0:08:04.200 we kept growing up, kept a lot of stuff out 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.960 of the fridge, and not for any reason other than 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.240 that's just how it was in my house. Like I 0:08:09.320 --> 0:08:13.680 remember butter like in a tray on the counter. Butter 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:15.480 is better that way. Room tip. Oh man, are you 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:18.520 kidding me? Yeah, just like it's already it's so spread herble. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.800 I keep mine in the fridge just to keep it 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.800 longer because I don't need that much butter. But man, 0:08:23.680 --> 0:08:26.840 if you go to a restaurant and they give you 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:30.240 butter and it's cold, just like, what do you do? 0:08:30.520 --> 0:08:34.439 It's literally Emily's biggest pet peeve is well, I agree 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:37.839 with cold rolls with cold butter or hot rolls with 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:39.920 cold Yeah, because you get the hot rolls, you think 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:42.120 this place knows what they're doing, and you get this 0:08:42.240 --> 0:08:45.480 cold pad of butter. So I've developed a technique, Um, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:47.280 you know, the under the arm pit method. But well 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:50.120 it's close. It's it's you just cut your hands and 0:08:50.160 --> 0:08:52.120 you put a couple of those little foil wrap you 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:54.959 want to make sure it's wrapped in foil pats. Of 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:58.360 cold butter and you heat them up pretty quick. And 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:01.000 I'll tell you what, you make some friends around the 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.040 table if you eat somebody's butter up for him because 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.200 nobody likes cold button. Then you hand them a little 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.319 butter pat and you're like, here, take this, it's my 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:09.360 gift to you. I like it when they just have 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:11.679 a little olive oil and balstomac vinegar. You know that's 0:09:11.720 --> 0:09:15.000 good too. But I like good room temperature butter, especially 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:21.000 like milk fat content or more good. Um. So, like 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.840 I said, I like butter out we left um remember 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:28.920 certain condiments being left out? What about fruits and vegetables? Um? Yeah, 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:32.240 like a lot of vegetables. I don't refrigerate now, like 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.640 I never refrigerate peppers and onions, and well you don't 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.480 want to. If you do refrigerate an onion, it will 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.560 last longer. But if you're going to use it eat, 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.160 you want to take it out of your refrigerator and 0:09:44.160 --> 0:09:46.440 bring it up to room temperature before you cook with 0:09:46.440 --> 0:09:48.360 it or use it in food, because it takes a 0:09:48.360 --> 0:09:51.480 lot of the temperature white. But that's also a tip 0:09:51.559 --> 0:09:56.160 if you hate crying. Um, because if you cut a 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:59.520 cold onion, the enzyme that eventually sets off the chain 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:04.040 reaction that makes you cry is contained. It's not as volatile. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:08.080 I've noticed that. So that's your your tip from Chuck 0:10:08.160 --> 0:10:12.240 and Josh my eyes killed me too. With onions, it 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:15.160 depends only and it's not just like oh it's little tears. 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:19.040 It's like massive burning. It's really bad. Really Yeah, yeah, 0:10:19.240 --> 0:10:21.640 you should super sensitive. I did it. Don't be dumb 0:10:21.679 --> 0:10:23.920 on it. That explains exactly what's going on with you. 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:27.680 I've seen that, Okay, so you know, um so yeah, 0:10:27.679 --> 0:10:29.600 a lot of the vegetables I don't keep like it 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:31.280 depends on when I'm gonna eat it. If I bring 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.640 home some like a big head of cauliflower, I'll keep 0:10:34.679 --> 0:10:36.959 that out in the fruit basket for a couple of days. 0:10:37.080 --> 0:10:40.280 I've never seen that before in my entire life. Cauliflower out. 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.800 I've only seen it in like a crisper drawer. Yeah, 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:48.680 I've left cauliflower and broccoli out like green onions and 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:55.960 can lemongrass, garlic. Of course, potatoes don't refrigerate. I think 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:58.480 I would like stop short and point if I saw 0:10:58.600 --> 0:11:01.360 like cauliflower out and like the root pads, be like, 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.840 what is that? That's just fine. I haven't even been 0:11:03.880 --> 0:11:05.640 to your house. I didn't notice that. Well, I mean 0:11:05.640 --> 0:11:08.400 I don't always have, had you gone through the col yeah, 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:11.560 just eating it. Um. Tomatoes are another one too, there 0:11:11.640 --> 0:11:14.240 they'll last longer in the fridge if you're gonna cook 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:16.560 with them. You want to bring up to your room temperature. 0:11:16.720 --> 0:11:19.480 Some stuff you just don't want to refrigerate. Potatoes, apparently 0:11:19.760 --> 0:11:21.480 you don't do very well in the fridge. You put 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:24.440 them in a nice brown paper sack in your pantry 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:27.520 away from the sunlight. They keep for a really long time. Yeah, 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:29.960 you know, Jerry, I think Jerry showed me the little 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.400 trick was that you with the cilantro Jerry and the yep, 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:34.599 Oh what I need to notice because they eat a 0:11:34.640 --> 0:11:38.000 lot of cilantro. You the cilantro you don't use just 0:11:38.160 --> 0:11:40.160 fill up a glass like half full of water and 0:11:40.200 --> 0:11:41.640 just throw it in there and just leave it in 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:45.240 your out in your kitchen. Oh like the base of 0:11:45.240 --> 0:11:47.800 it in the water and just stays fresh like super long. 0:11:48.400 --> 0:11:51.280 And you know, the fridge can beat up cilantro after 0:11:51.320 --> 0:11:53.559 like a day or two. I like your optimism, by 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:57.360 the way, thank you. Um. The avocado is what always 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:00.360 kills me though, I well, I I eat a lot 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.360 of avocado as well. It's hard to keep those fresh. 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.479 Tried a lot of tricks too. Well, here's here's your trick. 0:12:08.040 --> 0:12:12.240 You're ready, okay, Oh you're cutting up an avocado and like, yeah, 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.640 that's it for the avocado. I have no trick for that. Well, 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.520 what do you eat the whole? Yeah, pretty much. I 0:12:17.559 --> 0:12:19.400 don't understand what. Well, I don't know. I don't like 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.840 eat the skin and everything. No, that's not what I mean. 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.320 It's like once I couldn't do an avocado, all of 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:27.120 that avocado is about to be consumed by me. So 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.920 that's the tip. Yeah, But I do have another tip 0:12:31.000 --> 0:12:33.720 for you though, with avocados. You know how you go 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.000 to the store and you like squeeze them, and you 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.679 you you can find one out of a hundred and 0:12:37.720 --> 0:12:40.680 fifty that's squeeze a bowls. Pretty annoying, it is, But 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.680 that squeezed one is gonna be nasty and bruised and 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:48.640 just disgusting. There's gonna be basically like rot wherever you 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.440 and everybody else squeeze that avocado. So you can have 0:12:51.440 --> 0:12:53.720 a lot less useable avocado. So you want to get 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.600 one that you can't squeeze. It's so firm it can't 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:58.480 be squeezed well. But then you just have to wait 0:12:58.480 --> 0:13:00.839 a few days to eat it. You can wait one day, 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:03.480 it's all it takes, my friend. And here's how. You 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:07.040 take a brown paper bag and buy a banana, and 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.120 you put the banana and the avocados in the brown 0:13:09.200 --> 0:13:11.600 paper bag. Roll it up pretty tight, but leave a 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:13.400 little space in there. And they do it, and the 0:13:13.480 --> 0:13:17.280 game right, they get it on. Uh, and what happens 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:22.000 is the avocados ripening. Really Yeah. The the banana as 0:13:22.040 --> 0:13:27.480 it ripens, well, it puts off a gas um that 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.320 ripens the avocados. I'm gonna try that, and I'm not kidding. 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:35.960 Twelve to twenty four hours, you have totally ready avocados. Yeah, 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:39.319 because I like my avocados firm still. Oh, you're gonna 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:41.880 love this chuck and not mushy but not not hard, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.320 but just firm. You're gonna thank me later. I'm excited 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:49.680 about your avocado experiences now. So there's plenty of stuff 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:53.360 that doesn't need refrigerating, So that's one way that people 0:13:53.760 --> 0:13:57.679 can defridge. Yeah, this is turning into like food. One 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:00.000 on one with Josh and chuck. Yeah, I hope that's okay. 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.640 Um yeah, plenty of stuff that you don't have to refrigerate. Um, 0:14:03.840 --> 0:14:06.920 but people still use some sort of cooling mechanism. Yeah, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:11.959 like a cooler, Like if you have meats or dairy products. Um, 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:13.880 if you want to go without a fridge, most people 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.280 use a cooler. And the thing that annoy me with 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:19.120 this article, as they said, or they use a mini 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.840 freezer to make ice. I'm like, well, that's probably just 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.120 about as bad as you're stupid fridge. Well, it's pretty close. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.680 So like one of those little chest freezers. Um, I 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.000 didn't see the size of it. Oh, a six point 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:33.440 four cubic feet chest freezer, which isn't big, but it's 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.880 not that small. Um. But apparently that's the that's the 0:14:38.040 --> 0:14:41.400 thing that people who defridge use. That still uses two 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:46.040 kilowatt hours a year. So really, by unplugging your refrigerator 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.480 and using iNeST freezer, you're saving about fifteen gallons of 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.960 gas a year. Yeah. I don't know if that's your best, Like, 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.840 spend your time doing better things for the environment. I think, 0:14:57.280 --> 0:14:59.160 Well again, I think people who do this are saying 0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.800 I'll do this on top of stuff and then kind 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.360 of cleverly, if you ask me, they're using this the 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:08.280 ice chests to um, we'll basically fill up like a 0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:11.320 two lead bottle of water which they didn't allow to 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:15.120 go to waste, the two leader bottle um, putting those 0:15:15.160 --> 0:15:18.240 in the freezer chest, and then having like a separate 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:21.600 cooler that they put the frozen water bottles in to 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.800 keep cool their milk and their meats and stuff like that. 0:15:25.760 --> 0:15:28.560 Uh yeah, and you know what, we're gonna talk about 0:15:28.600 --> 0:15:32.600 some tips for shopping to accommodate in this lifestyle. But 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:40.720 first let's take a little message, right Okay, all right, 0:15:40.840 --> 0:15:44.400 so you're talking about the cooler full of frozen bottles 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:47.800 of water to keep like your milk in some of 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:49.680 your dairy and stuff. But if you when you go 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:51.280 to the store, if you're gonna try and live this way, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.720 you can't probably buy the gallons of milk unless you 0:15:54.720 --> 0:15:56.440 really go through a lot of milk. You might want 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:58.960 to buy quartz of milk. You can't go to Sam's 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:03.520 Club and buy eight gallons of mayonnaise unless you eat 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:09.000 that pretty quickly. And if you should focus more attention 0:16:09.040 --> 0:16:12.000 on your mayonnaise habits, then what you're doing for the environment, 0:16:12.080 --> 0:16:14.120 So you're gonna have to buy smaller amounts of things, 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.880 which they say can cost a little more. But well, yeah, 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.920 if you're not wasting food though, Like if you added 0:16:18.960 --> 0:16:20.680 up the food you waste, you're probably burning a lot 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:22.880 of money and there's just gonna be far less food 0:16:22.880 --> 0:16:25.120 waste if you're buying in smaller amounts. Right. The other 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:28.200 the other side of that though is um if you're 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:32.240 you know, eco friendly or eco conscious, um, you're one 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.320 of the things that you're probably trying to avoid is 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.840 packaging as well. And if you buy a smaller amounts 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.600 of food, that means you buy more packages. Think about that. 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.800 And if you have smaller amounts of food, that means 0:16:42.800 --> 0:16:45.600 you have to go to the store more often, and 0:16:45.640 --> 0:16:48.960 then you may have to drive more often, which doesn't 0:16:48.960 --> 0:16:51.040 matter if you're riding a bike or something like that, 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:54.360 but if you're driving a car, then you're burning those 0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:58.360 gallons of gas that you might necessarily not have been anyway. Yeah, 0:16:58.360 --> 0:17:00.440 you like you get in your old seventy to pick 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.440 up truck and drive the twelve miles to get like 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.360 a pint of Mannames, you have to stop and fill 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.320 up at least once during that. Uh. So, can we 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:12.040 talk a little bit about food waste though, Yeah, because 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:13.880 it's a it's a pretty big thing, Like if you 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:20.439 have no refrigerator, the chances of your food spoiling just 0:17:20.600 --> 0:17:27.920 simply increase if you have no refrigerator. Well not so apparently, 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:32.600 according to a report, unless developed countries they have no refrigerators, 0:17:32.920 --> 0:17:37.119 they experience less food spoilers. Bam, you just faced me, 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.239 because they're like, they're eating what they need. You know, 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:45.119 they're not going to Sam's Club and buying seven hundred 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.199 chicken McNuggets to put in the freezer. I hear that. 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.480 And I guess if somebody who defridges uses the developing 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:54.600 world as a model for their food consumption. Yeah, I 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:57.479 wonder what hang ups there are though that would keep 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:00.399 you from successfully doing that, or if it is just 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.960 entirely possible to just watch how you're eating enough so 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.280 you don't have very much food waste. Let's talk food 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:12.680 waste finally. Uh in developing countries, post harvest losses of 0:18:12.720 --> 0:18:18.520 food grains can reach his high dude, in developing countries 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.280 and that a sad statistic. Yeah, because one of the 0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:25.439 things that makes that so sad, Chuck is that that 0:18:25.640 --> 0:18:30.080 food has been harvested and is ready to go. So 0:18:30.359 --> 0:18:33.359 not only is it ready to go, it just doesn't 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:38.200 make it to somebody's stomach. Um, all of the energy 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:44.080 used to produce, harvest, and transport that food has already 0:18:44.080 --> 0:18:45.920 been used as well. Yeah, I didn't think about that. 0:18:45.960 --> 0:18:48.320 So that's a huge waste there too. It's not just 0:18:48.400 --> 0:18:50.919 food waste. You add a double bummer onto every bummer 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:54.320 that I express. I'm good at it. The US spends 0:18:54.320 --> 0:18:57.160 about a billion dollars a year to dispose of food 0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.080 waste in this country, a billion dollars a year, and 0:19:00.080 --> 0:19:02.919 the e p A says that food leftovers are the 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:07.400 single largest part of our waste stream by weight. Right, 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.200 They make up about twelve percent of municipal landfills, which 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:13.919 are a pretty awful word in and of themselves, because 0:19:14.040 --> 0:19:19.520 municipal landfills are um responsible for about thirty four of 0:19:19.600 --> 0:19:24.200 methane emissions globally, or at least in the US, and 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.520 methane is twenty one times more damaging as a greenhouse 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:30.520 gas than CEO two. Yeah, and all that food waste 0:19:30.600 --> 0:19:33.480 is producing like tons of methane. Yeah, which is I 0:19:33.520 --> 0:19:36.560 don't understand why we're not trapping that methane and burning 0:19:36.600 --> 0:19:39.640 it off as energy. I know there are some pilot projects, 0:19:39.640 --> 0:19:43.040 but I don't understand why it's not a bigger thing. Now. Yeah, 0:19:43.080 --> 0:19:47.280 didn't we study something about calparts? Yeah, I saw that. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.040 I seem that rings a bell from the past. Yeah. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:55.239 Livestock is a huge contributor to methane emissions. Um, and 0:19:55.280 --> 0:19:57.040 nobody knows what to do about it. But there were 0:19:57.080 --> 0:19:58.880 plans to kind of try to trap it and burn 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.960 it for electricity. I think it was a farmer who 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:03.439 was doing he was using cow poop or something. I 0:20:03.440 --> 0:20:05.960 think that Dirty Jobs episode did something like that. I 0:20:06.000 --> 0:20:09.440 definitely remember looking at that. Um. But I agree, methane, 0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:14.000 let's trap it. Hey there's a T shirt. So yeah. 0:20:14.040 --> 0:20:17.920 So food waste is a I thought it was the 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:23.720 potential was increased without a refrigerator. You've opened my eyes here. Um. 0:20:23.760 --> 0:20:26.560 But another those those double bummers that I did, add 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:30.320 the more packaging and more trips to the store. Um. Again, 0:20:30.400 --> 0:20:33.200 if you have a if you lived near a store, 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.320 you can bike too or something like that. Um that 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.600 gets around that. And then also if you are one 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.920 of those zero waste people, like have you heard of 0:20:42.960 --> 0:20:47.280 B Johnson? Yeah, she's pretty remarkable. What's her website? Uh? 0:20:47.320 --> 0:20:51.120 It is Zero Waste Home. Yeah, she's one of these 0:20:51.119 --> 0:20:55.720 people that is doing like the family experiment, like let's 0:20:55.720 --> 0:20:59.040 see what we can really do and putting it, putting 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.600 it on a blog. She um. I think her family 0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:06.120 is the one that has produced a court of waste 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.199 in a year, a court of trash in a in 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:11.240 a year. Everything else is reused. She has five rs. 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.920 You think your three rs are worthwhile? Reduce, reuse, recycle, 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:18.960 what or her other to refuse? So she's saying that 0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:21.520 even if it's free, you know that free frisbee the 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.320 chiropractor gives you, say you don't want it? I do 0:21:24.440 --> 0:21:26.199 that a lot. Actually, I don't want a lot of 0:21:26.200 --> 0:21:29.240 that junk. Okay. So you're in line with this reduce, 0:21:29.920 --> 0:21:34.320 which would be you know, say, using your own, um, 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.159 your own grocery bags. Oh sure, yeah, so you're reducing 0:21:38.200 --> 0:21:43.320 the use of the store's grocery bags. Reuse. So don't 0:21:43.400 --> 0:21:48.760 throw your own grocery bag away right, use it again? Uh? Recycle, Yes, 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:52.639 you've heard of this one. And then rot chuck rot 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:56.919 like rotten h If you're not gonna do this, I 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.760 think So that's the last one. That's you mean by rot, 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.399